Just because your childhood had some happy moments doesn't mean it wasn't lonely, controlled and devoid of enough of the love you need. When someone tells you how they feel, especially when they're older and there will be no consequences for telling the truth, believe them.
Agreed. IMO, Victoria's childhood sounds like there were moments here and there that were happy. But that doesn't mean it was a good childhood. I don't understand how Conroy was "a bully," her mother was "a silly goose," they invented this lifestyle which was alienated and set apart, but the "experts" say she had it pretty good, was pampered and spoiled..... It makes my head hurt, trying to make sense of their opinion.
I came to comments just for this! The personal opinions that were added to this documentary ruined the facts. He even called her cold for not kissing her mother at the wedding. So much pain as a child! Expectations, manipulations, and isolation. Happy childhood memories don’t make up for that kind of damage.
If doesn’t paint her as being a good person imo. I read the following about Queen Victoria: While she joyfully oversaw the bathing and bedding of Vicky, and to a lesser extent Bertie (the future King Edward VII), as her family grew, she spent less time directly overseeing the care of her kids, admitting in later letters to Vicky that she would only check in on them directly once every three months.
I know somebody right now who is jealous of her kids and didn’t/ doesn’t want them around her ex. Her mentality is “ if I can have him, you cant either”. Very sad.
Confessing to paper that wouldn't betray you was in my opinion what kept her somewhat sane. Can you imagine what it must have been like having every single person in your life wanting something from you or trying to influence you to a belief that benefits an entire country? Crazy stress this woman functioned under.Bless you and RIP dear Lady , you earned it.
No she was a nutter. Plain and simple. A narcissistic , self obsessed unpleasant woman who cared Nothing about anyone but herself . Had no interest whatsoever in the people she was supposed to be ruling over and was incredibly cruel to her own kids. Victoria Trump. A useless monarch.
Victoria was no angel, and she was known as the "Famine Queen" in Ireland as she allowed one million of her then subjects to stave to death and another million were forced to emigrate before they starved to death as well between 1846 and 1851. I wonder did she write about that scandal? Liam Burke
Denying the stated reality of someone’s life is now known as GASLIGHTING. Doesn’t matter what the narrators think about her privileges, her emotional life was clearly hell for her.
It’s too bad they were so heavily edited by her daughter. I have two thoughts about that. One, one my goodness how great it would have been to really see! Even reading between the lines and edited, man. But then, EVERYONE is entitled to their own privacy, who would would really want their diaries for public consumption, you know?
She probably wouldn’t have troubled herself with writing such descriptive, accurate accounts of her life experiences had she known her journals were going to be so heavily edited before their future release…
This is not the first doc I've watched of Queen Victoria where the way she is portrayed makes her sound like she is massively narcissistic in nature! It seems like marriage, & then pregnancy triggered some highly narcissistic traits. There's no way the woman didn't have mental health issues. Especially considering how controlling & manipulative & jealous she was of her own kids & even talking about wanting to do away with one of them... that's disturbing. All this talk about being such a great "love match", when it seems like the greatest thing started with an immediate physical attraction, followed by a sexual obsession, or can we say, almost addiction. There's no (healthy-minded) reason to be resentful & jealous of your husband loving on your kids. Considering the average royal family always kept a distance or were just straight cold & disconnected, it was not at all typical for a father figure to have the kind of emotional connection with his kids the way Albert did. Even if he wanted political power, the man clearly ALSO cared about the wellbeing of his kids, as well as his wife, to the point where he vented to the doctor about not feeling like she cared about his feelings, much less her behavior towards their children.
@AmandaBowe-be6vd That is for psychologicist or psychiatrist to explore with a patient. A character disorder from what I have read. Not an easy diagnoses. Sigmund Freud and and C.J.Jung , are so interesting to read about and those there after. Those that have it have a hard time getting help for they are so self-absorbed. Queen Victoria and Albert, I find alway found their history so interesting, complicated, loving, as we all are only human. (John Brown and Moonchie from India.) Her beloved friends. I can't imagine myself being in a royal family with all those histories in so many different countries for several hundreds of years and all the wars and divisions. Court life was not an easy one for all those who existed in those halls of castles with different perspectives and personalities especially those in quest for political power. I would have rather been a cook preparing delicious meals downstairs away from all of it. Although, on down down the years, that became a high position, many scenes downstairs of jealousy also. There was always a pecking order. One had to know their place and postion. History I love.
what do you meanwth the unsupported hrase. the average royal family.. what is that even? ad painting them all as cold etc.. yo may think this.. doenslt make it true.. Aristrocracy in Europe had lots of staff and lots of duties.. so they had nannies etc. You do not know enough to say they were cold to their children.. ON AVERAGE.
@@AmandaBowe-be6vd Yes. And the reason it is used more now, is because we understand it better. There is no better expression to explain this vile woman.
Connor MacLeod🏴 Highlander felt cursed living forever feeling lonely and loss. Lestat,Interview With A Vampire said the same! Freddie Mercury immortalized the feelings when he sang Who Wants To Live Forever?
As for Victoria "being so cruel to her poor, heartbroken mother"....only people who are gullible fall for that manipulative crap. Adult children don't just hate their parents for no good reason. And Victoria's mother CLEARLY betrayed Victoria's trust & best interests before she came of age & so, rightfully deserved her daughter's disdain - it's funny how quick lots of parents are to play the victim when they're met w/ the consequences of their own damaging & self-serving actions towards their own children.
Well you might hate your mother in adulthood if your where a spoilt brat in childhood. You must remember british history has a huge amount of propaganda in it telling. Your hearing from the british about a british monarch.
And she and her boyfriend had been cruel to Victoria as a child and clearly thought they would rule the country as Regents. They deserved to be kicked to the curb.
While I do not like Victoria because of how horrible she was in her adult years, and especially to her children, I do understand why she turned out like that. Her mother, along with Conroy used, abused, and manipulated her till she took the throne and had enough. But, I feel if the society at the time believed in better therapy, she could’ve changed and been a better person. It wasn’t surprising how horrible of a mother she was, when that’s the only example she had. As the saying good, children of abusers who grow up, and don’t get the proper help (sometimes can still be horrible) become the abuser.
@garyallen8824 I agree with you about her childhood, but I’m not sure I’d credit Albert with her survival. While they genuinely, ardently loved one another, I doubt they were really good for each other-and not just because they were cousins. She seems to have been _less_ stable under his influence. For political reasons, he worked hard to undermine her own authority, accrue power during her pregnancies, and he sometimes wrote to her as if she were insane. His behavior and responses could be just as unregulated and over the top. Of course, Albert had his own demons and his own difficult childhood, which included an “unstable,” unruly mother. I don’t condemn everything about either, of course. Albert’s vision for a Europe of stable constitutional monarchies-bequeathed to him by his primary political advisor-was a good one, and would have prevented a great deal of bloodshed had it been successful.
Indeed. And people who have no real concept of how damaging abuse in childhood is even if it doesn't include physical abuse (like the "expert" here who laughs it off because oh, Victoria had dolls and got to go to the theatre). Dolls she made herself in the shape of real people because she wasn't allowed friends! Just because she didn't get chained in a dank cellar like a Dickens character doesn't make her childhood happy. It's pretty obvious from looking at her later life that she was quite damaged by that childhood. I wonder whether without her governess Lehzen she would have even become queen in her own right or been reasonably sane; she would have been entirely isolated from anyone who might have supported her. Her mother is maybe not the main villain in that story; but she was weak, greedy enough to go along with Conroy, and didn't protect Victoria when she most needed it -- I'd be willing to argue that such a betrayal by a mother is rather worse than by an ambitious, embezzling social climber. Good riddance to bad rubbish.
2 things I know is she referred to herself as we and she was a speed eater and everytime time her plate was cleared away anyone she was eating with had their plates cleared regardless if they were finished or not.
Of course let's make it a gender situation. She never referred to herself as we. Quit trying to shove your bullshit narrative down people's throats. I bet your the type of person who thinks teachers transitioning minors without parents consent is ok. I bet you think it's ok to sexualize minors and call pedophiles minor attracted person
@@pjcampbell4143Everyone was served at the same time. But when the monarch has finished eating and it is time for the next course, everyone was also cleared at the same time as well.
Why didn't you speak on how she felt about Sarah Bonetta Forbes . She became her Gd daughter she actually treated her as a daughter ( Bertie didn't like that). Queen Victoria adored her .
I’ve watched the series “Victoria” and “ The Crown” and many other series and movies on England’s history and I think I’m obsessed with Victoria and her life now. lol am I crazy?
Queen Victoria gave the largest single donation to a fund to help feed the desperate and dying Irish during the potato famine. She also aided and took a great personal interest in her staff and the Highland communities around Balmoral.
I cane across this by chance and so glad I did. Like every human she was not perfect but boy did she show the many males that tried to think they were her superior. I will never think of Victorian England in the same light. Had her reign included the years upto 1920 would WW1 still have occured?
I’ve always felt to have lived during clean Victoria’s time would have been terrifying for a commoner. I don’t know why. She would have done nothing in earnest in the publics eye and wrote the truth instead on paper only. She seems like she would be vindictive.
You should probably do some actual research into how Britain’s government functioned. Victoria was not a tyrant and she had extremely limited political power.
It was a terrible time for the common people. Poor, dirty, cold, starving, no education and filth in the gutters and Thames. (sewage) Gov't or monarchy did nothing to help for a long time. The Irish were starving and made to ship all food to Britain. No help for the poor Irish either.
@@zzzbbbooo People magazine, article beginning with Five things to know about Victoria. There is a color picture of her, and a black and white picture of him in uniform. He has a very similar appearance to Gene Wilder in Young Doctor Frankenstein.
Haven't even gotten 5 minutes in and he's already called her "hysterical" and said she had "daddy issues". Women deserve better than these types of lazy, degrading sexist hot takes and shame on this documentary and channel for perpetuating this kind of nonsense.
Vickie at 14 did not know about being in love with a 20 something man. 😮 Ugh disturbing. I don't care if "that's how it was back then". It's disturbing. No wonder so many young wives dies in childbirth, were they done developing?
@@kaz1015 it's just common logic, the hips aren't wide enough, that's why we've less stillbirths now than back in the day, look at the countries that still have teen births, complications and death rates are through the roof
common logic isn;t science, is i?. i do not know one way or the other but come on. You leave out the advances in health care throughout pregnancy and birth. Has that no impact on better outcomes? You cannot distil this into only being because of smaller pelvic bones. @@KawaiiStars
Just because your childhood had some happy moments doesn't mean it wasn't lonely, controlled and devoid of enough of the love you need. When someone tells you how they feel, especially when they're older and there will be no consequences for telling the truth, believe them.
Agreed. IMO, Victoria's childhood sounds like there were moments here and there that were happy. But that doesn't mean it was a good childhood. I don't understand how Conroy was "a bully," her mother was "a silly goose," they invented this lifestyle which was alienated and set apart, but the "experts" say she had it pretty good, was pampered and spoiled..... It makes my head hurt, trying to make sense of their opinion.
I came to comments just for this! The personal opinions that were added to this documentary ruined the facts.
He even called her cold for not kissing her mother at the wedding. So much pain as a child! Expectations, manipulations, and isolation.
Happy childhood memories don’t make up for that kind of damage.
Thank you for your comment, see my comment on gaslighting. Really disappointed in such a subjective biased commentary.
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You can't judge someone else's suffering. Saying that Victoria was indulged and had it "pretty good" doesn't prove that she didn't suffer.
I enjoyed this greatly. The narrator offers incredible insights. A well researched and informative production.
I understand her love of Scotland. To me it is heaven on Earth.
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I can’t disagree …it’s quite possibly the most beautiful country in the world🙂
Love Scotland! I visited this past March.
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Wow, my husband is such an incredible father and i love marveling at him with our son. Cant really imagine being jealous of my children😮
If doesn’t paint her as being a good person imo.
I read the following about
Queen Victoria:
While she joyfully oversaw the bathing and bedding of Vicky, and to a lesser extent Bertie (the future King Edward VII), as her family grew, she spent less time directly overseeing the care of her kids, admitting in later letters to Vicky that she would only check in on them directly once every three months.
^^^ that is an INSANE concept as a mother. How on earth can you see your kids once every three months.
@@thewholenesshome That is simply NOT TRUE.
I know somebody right now who is jealous of her kids and didn’t/ doesn’t want them around her ex. Her mentality is “ if I can have him, you cant either”. Very sad.
Confessing to paper that wouldn't betray you was in my opinion what kept her somewhat sane. Can you imagine what it must have been like having every single person in your life wanting something from you or trying to influence you to a belief that benefits an entire country? Crazy stress this woman functioned under.Bless you and RIP dear Lady , you earned it.
No she was a nutter. Plain and simple. A narcissistic , self obsessed unpleasant woman who cared Nothing about anyone but herself . Had no interest whatsoever in the people she was supposed to be ruling over and was incredibly cruel to her own kids. Victoria Trump. A useless monarch.
Victoria was no angel, and she was known as the "Famine Queen" in Ireland as she allowed one million of her then subjects to stave to death and another million were forced to emigrate before they starved to death as well between 1846 and 1851. I wonder did she write about that scandal?
Liam Burke
Allowed it??? Victoria didn't have much more influence on things of this nature than today's monarch does. She had no such powers at all.
Denying the stated reality of someone’s life is now known as GASLIGHTING. Doesn’t matter what the narrators think about her privileges, her emotional life was clearly hell for her.
Loved, loved, loved the
Pictures!
It’s too bad they were so heavily edited by her daughter. I have two thoughts about that. One, one my goodness how great it would have been to really see! Even reading between the lines and edited, man. But then, EVERYONE is entitled to their own privacy, who would would really want their diaries for public consumption, you know?
well, people in such positions are usually aware that whatever they write will at one point be considered a historic document and open to scrutiny
She probably wouldn’t have troubled herself with writing such descriptive, accurate accounts of her life experiences had she known her journals were going to be so heavily edited before their future release…
This is very interesting! Thank you
This is not the first doc I've watched of Queen Victoria where the way she is portrayed makes her sound like she is massively narcissistic in nature! It seems like marriage, & then pregnancy triggered some highly narcissistic traits. There's no way the woman didn't have mental health issues. Especially considering how controlling & manipulative & jealous she was of her own kids & even talking about wanting to do away with one of them... that's disturbing. All this talk about being such a great "love match", when it seems like the greatest thing started with an immediate physical attraction, followed by a sexual obsession, or can we say, almost addiction. There's no (healthy-minded) reason to be resentful & jealous of your husband loving on your kids. Considering the average royal family always kept a distance or were just straight cold & disconnected, it was not at all typical for a father figure to have the kind of emotional connection with his kids the way Albert did. Even if he wanted political power, the man clearly ALSO cared about the wellbeing of his kids, as well as his wife, to the point where he vented to the doctor about not feeling like she cared about his feelings, much less her behavior towards their children.
Gawd I hate that bloody word NARCISSIST its used nowadays for everyone and everything....do people even know what it means
@AmandaBowe-be6vd
That is for psychologicist or psychiatrist to explore with a patient. A character disorder from what I have read. Not an easy diagnoses.
Sigmund Freud and and C.J.Jung , are so interesting to read about and those there after. Those that have it have a hard time getting help for they are so self-absorbed.
Queen Victoria and Albert, I find alway found their history so interesting, complicated, loving, as we all are only human. (John Brown and Moonchie from India.) Her beloved friends. I can't imagine myself being in a royal family with all those histories in so many different countries for several hundreds of years and all the wars and divisions. Court life was not an easy one for all those who existed in those halls of castles with different perspectives and personalities especially those in quest for political power. I would have rather been a cook preparing delicious meals downstairs away from all of it. Although, on down down the years, that became a high position, many scenes downstairs of jealousy also. There was always a pecking order. One had to know their place and postion. History I love.
what do you meanwth the unsupported hrase. the average royal family.. what is that even? ad painting them all as cold etc.. yo may think this.. doenslt make it true.. Aristrocracy in Europe had lots of staff and lots of duties.. so they had nannies etc. You do not know enough to say they were cold to their children.. ON AVERAGE.
@@AmandaBowe-be6vd Yes. And the reason it is used more now, is because we understand it better. There is no better expression to explain this vile woman.
Connor MacLeod🏴 Highlander felt cursed living forever feeling lonely and loss. Lestat,Interview With A Vampire said the same! Freddie Mercury immortalized the feelings when he sang Who Wants To Live Forever?
Princess Beatrice is very much like Queen Victoria.
Wonderful program. ❤
As for Victoria "being so cruel to her poor, heartbroken mother"....only people who are gullible fall for that manipulative crap.
Adult children don't just hate their parents for no good reason.
And Victoria's mother CLEARLY betrayed Victoria's trust & best interests before she came of age & so, rightfully deserved her daughter's disdain - it's funny how quick lots of parents are to play the victim when they're met w/ the consequences of their own damaging & self-serving actions towards their own children.
Well you might hate your mother in adulthood if your where a spoilt brat in childhood. You must remember british history has a huge amount of propaganda in it telling. Your hearing from the british about a british monarch.
And she and her boyfriend had been cruel to Victoria as a child and clearly thought they would rule the country as Regents. They deserved to be kicked to the curb.
While I do not like Victoria because of how horrible she was in her adult years, and especially to her children, I do understand why she turned out like that. Her mother, along with Conroy used, abused, and manipulated her till she took the throne and had enough. But, I feel if the society at the time believed in better therapy, she could’ve changed and been a better person. It wasn’t surprising how horrible of a mother she was, when that’s the only example she had. As the saying good, children of abusers who grow up, and don’t get the proper help (sometimes can still be horrible) become the abuser.
@garyallen8824 I agree with you about her childhood, but I’m not sure I’d credit Albert with her survival. While they genuinely, ardently loved one another, I doubt they were really good for each other-and not just because they were cousins. She seems to have been _less_ stable under his influence. For political reasons, he worked hard to undermine her own authority, accrue power during her pregnancies, and he sometimes wrote to her as if she were insane. His behavior and responses could be just as unregulated and over the top.
Of course, Albert had his own demons and his own difficult childhood, which included an “unstable,” unruly mother.
I don’t condemn everything about either, of course. Albert’s vision for a Europe of stable constitutional monarchies-bequeathed to him by his primary political advisor-was a good one, and would have prevented a great deal of bloodshed had it been successful.
Indeed. And people who have no real concept of how damaging abuse in childhood is even if it doesn't include physical abuse (like the "expert" here who laughs it off because oh, Victoria had dolls and got to go to the theatre). Dolls she made herself in the shape of real people because she wasn't allowed friends! Just because she didn't get chained in a dank cellar like a Dickens character doesn't make her childhood happy. It's pretty obvious from looking at her later life that she was quite damaged by that childhood. I wonder whether without her governess Lehzen she would have even become queen in her own right or been reasonably sane; she would have been entirely isolated from anyone who might have supported her. Her mother is maybe not the main villain in that story; but she was weak, greedy enough to go along with Conroy, and didn't protect Victoria when she most needed it -- I'd be willing to argue that such a betrayal by a mother is rather worse than by an ambitious, embezzling social climber.
Good riddance to bad rubbish.
2 things I know is she referred to herself as we and she was a speed eater and everytime time her plate was cleared away anyone she was eating with had their plates cleared regardless if they were finished or not.
We thank you for this 😉.
How odd... I can't even imagine saying we like that.
It DOES Really Make Things Hard For The LAST PEOPLE SERVED!
Of course let's make it a gender situation. She never referred to herself as we. Quit trying to shove your bullshit narrative down people's throats. I bet your the type of person who thinks teachers transitioning minors without parents consent is ok. I bet you think it's ok to sexualize minors and call pedophiles minor attracted person
@@pjcampbell4143Everyone was served at the same time. But when the monarch has finished eating and it is time for the next course, everyone was also cleared at the same time as well.
people were served at the same time..lots of footmen to do it. @@pjcampbell4143
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Britain’s longest reigning monarch? This must have been recorded prior to 2015 surely?
Why didn't you speak on how she felt about Sarah Bonetta Forbes . She became her Gd daughter she actually treated her as a daughter ( Bertie didn't like that). Queen Victoria adored her .
Sarah was really not that prominent in Queen Victoria's life. If you read biographies on Victoria, she is barely referred to, to be honest.
I’ve watched the series “Victoria” and “ The Crown” and many other series and movies on England’s history and I think I’m obsessed with Victoria and her life now. lol am I crazy?
i wonder if it was victoria or beateice who wrote the kind words about victoria's mother.
I did. Lol every chance I get. But I tried to do that for everybody til they jumped my shit.
Interesting.
"No monarch had ever published a book before." James IV of Scotland, later James I of England, published Daemonolgie in 1597
Did you mean James VI and I? I seriously doubt that James IV wrote that..
@@jeromesullivan4015he probably did he was seriously obsessed with all things witchcraft
it was prevalent in that age. Not Just the King.@@DavidAdeyemi-vn9vc
With excessive power and resources, decades of free time, was she benevolent? Did she aid the poor, homeless, babies, children, elderly, sick? No??
Are you benevolent? Do you do those things?
@@kelrogers8480That’s a low blow to @doreekaplan2589
Not done then. Learn history.
@@annerud9625 What the hell are you talking about? Of course it was ''done then''! Ignorant, arrogant and rude. Learn some manners!
Queen Victoria gave the largest single donation to a fund to help feed the desperate and dying Irish during the potato famine. She also aided and took a great personal interest in her staff and the Highland communities around Balmoral.
What an outrages Narcissist Victoria was LOL
Boy was she codependent on Albert.
He needed her too. He wouldn't have been able to achieve all he did without Victoria.
I cane across this by chance and so glad I did.
Like every human she was not perfect but boy did she show the many males that tried to think they were her superior. I will never think of Victorian England in the same light.
Had her reign included the years upto 1920 would WW1 still have occured?
No because they'd have all been spanked by granny but she'd have been over a hundred
So maybe they not so afraid of a living dead lady. It's a tosser
I’ve always felt to have lived during clean Victoria’s time would have been terrifying for a commoner. I don’t know why. She would have done nothing in earnest in the publics eye and wrote the truth instead on paper only. She seems like she would be vindictive.
You should probably do some actual research into how Britain’s government functioned. Victoria was not a tyrant and she had extremely limited political power.
She was not vindictive but she was brutally honest.
Not much she could do...crazy time!
sorry. makes no sense.. what does she would have done nothing in earntst in the public eye mean?
It was a terrible time for the common people. Poor, dirty, cold, starving, no education and filth in the gutters and Thames. (sewage)
Gov't or monarchy did nothing to help for a long time. The Irish were starving and made to ship all food to Britain. No help for the poor Irish either.
My favorite character is her uncle
characer. are you relying on actors for your historical information?
surely not the longest ruling monarch
Imagine being a child king or queen...horrible!
❤❤❤❤❤❤ royal family
England's queens ❤
Elizabeth
Victoria
Elizabeth II
The portrait of Albert showed a strong similarity to the actor Gene Wilder.
Which portrait? He looked nothing like Gene Wilder!
@@zzzbbbooo
People magazine, article beginning with Five things to know about Victoria. There is a color picture of her, and a black and white picture of him in uniform. He has a very similar appearance to Gene Wilder in Young Doctor Frankenstein.
Prince Albert.
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This guy is so condescending when he speaks about women.
Haven't even gotten 5 minutes in and he's already called her "hysterical" and said she had "daddy issues". Women deserve better than these types of lazy, degrading sexist hot takes and shame on this documentary and channel for perpetuating this kind of nonsense.
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@@kiernan415 YADDA YADDA you should see the TV series 1975 then you’ll understand Edward the 7th
JENNIFER you have NO IDEA
Exactly, Gary. Personally I think A N Wilson is one of the greatest biographers of all time, along with Peter Ackroyd.
Metropolitan Police.
SORRY WHAT ? 23 AND 14 !!!
The mother shows us why her daughter has that attitude, what a disgrace.
Now thanks to her ridiculous daughter, we won't get to see all of of it!
I couldn’t care less about Queen Victoria.
Don't watch.
Why would you bother to even tell us this? Jog on!
hysterical false hystory. shame on you.
Vickie at 14 did not know about being in love with a 20 something man. 😮 Ugh disturbing. I don't care if "that's how it was back then". It's disturbing. No wonder so many young wives dies in childbirth, were they done developing?
Child birth is dangerous at older ages… and can be dangerous overall…so, no, your statement is wrong.
@@meganriekki6832it's proven that teen births are far more dangerous than births at least 20/30yrs
@@KawaiiStars source?
@@kaz1015 it's just common logic, the hips aren't wide enough, that's why we've less stillbirths now than back in the day, look at the countries that still have teen births, complications and death rates are through the roof
common logic isn;t science, is i?. i do not know one way or the other but come on. You leave out the advances in health care throughout pregnancy and birth. Has that no impact on better outcomes? You cannot distil this into only being because of smaller pelvic bones. @@KawaiiStars
For them to take advantage of kids they been hurt them with flour and soure dough
what the hell are you talking about, lol.