SNK separates and isolates their 3d fgs treating them like something that must be forgotten. They tried to get in the 3d fg market since the 90s but always failed to make them really good just like the mainstream ones like TK, VF, SC, etc. There was a 3d Samsho and a 3d Fatal Fury, then KOF MI series in the 00s and this Samsho Sen lastly. And in all these cases the original chars from those games never got in the mainline series... except only Shiki because she became too popular because with SvC Chaos. Its a shame they are treated that way because all these rough 3d games have some interesting original chars. Now look the current approach of NRS's latest games: it became common to feature some chars from the MK 3d trilogy, even though that is not a glorious moment of the series, and some of those chars werent even good. But they got new looks, moves, plot, etc and became more interesting. In this aspect NRS became a good example for the rest of the industry.
Wow, a debut in the channel and a great surprise. (Though not for positive reasons) Well, at least the opening was very well made and impressive. If only the gameplay followed the same high quality, this could have been a nice 3d conversion for the series. Not to mention the importance of the genre gaining a new weapon 3d fg to walk together with the lone Soul Calibur.
Hey, the mexican Leona from the past. I think this Samurai Shadown game have some pretty good ideas, I would like to see that mechanics of sercenated limbs or decapitations in the next Samurai Shodown besides the cutting in half mechanic, I think would add more drama to the battle, something like the "fatalities" from Samurai Shadown 4 you could have the option of kill your opponent by cutting in half, decapitation or maybe you would rather to spare the life of your opponent and only cutting his hand, or maybe this would be some kind of humilliation, I think they could apply that to the next game.
This game's "fatalities" are a pretty competent (for the time it was made) 3d adaptation of the early Samsho violent finishers. They are a full cutscene with dramatic angles, taking advantage of 3d technology. I dont agree with the gameplay aspects, like the way it happens when the opponent still has a large hp, but the idea itself of the finisher being a dramatic cutscene is great. Ironically that makes this game from 08 look more modern than the new Samsho that just imitates the violent finishers of the 2d games. I disagreed with that idea since the first time i saw it in the new game.
This was sure not the best response from SNK to a Capcom initiative: SF4, the new 3d/2.5d conversion of SF, was also released in 2008... shortly after Samsho Sen but actually announced before. But it makes me wonder how SNK and Samsho history would have gone if this game was a very successful 3d conversion like SF4... What if the positive sales motivated SNK to invest really hard on 3d graphics and animation of the future KOF 14? What if the positive reception to a 3d fg from SNK encouraged them to keep the KOF Maximum Impact series for at least little longer? What if the earnings motivated them to revive Fatal Fury much earlier?
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7:09 Issen! . . . Angelica looks more like what happens when Guts and Caska (both from "Berserk") have twin daughters that were mysteriously taken from them. They would take after their mother.
Not gonna lie, imo, this's the direction Samurai Shodown *should've* ultimately gone, with the *only* things changed being that the colors were brighter and more saturated (the muting makes everything look like it's in a nuclear winter), and that they used the *8-way run* system instead of the 3D dodge; oh, and Draco should have to reload his shotgun after every *two* shots, since that's how shotguns work *irl* , and it'd actually make it decently *balanced* .
The way i see it, it must not be because it turned 3d, but because its just too bad. Sure there were criticisms from purists for the mere fact it turned to 3d, but a lot of criticisms focused on how bad the 3d gameplay is. Because 3d tech and gameplay evolved really nice since the 90s, and that roughness was unacceptable. For reference, Soul Calibur 4 is from the same year of this game.
But there's also the point that 2d fg specialists like Capcom, SNK, and the MK's devs, always wanted to get into that 3d fg market and always failed pathetically. Like SFEX, Rival Schools, MK4, and the early Samsho 3d games are all from the same time of Tekken 3 and yet look much rougher, like a generation behind. Then a generation later, SFEX3, RS2/Project Justice and the MK 3d trilogy look much inferior to TK4, VF4, SC1 and DOA2, that are from the same period. And when KOF MI came it was very inferior to TK4 and those other 3d fgs, and when MKA came there was already TK5 and SC3. And lets not forget that Capcom had a 1st part 3d crossover that was cancelled in 2003 because it was too bad, and CvS3 was planned to be in 3d and was cancelled. So Capcom's fg devs were so incompetent in 3d that the games werent even completed. So its like the 2d fg specialists, when making 3d fgs, were always many steps behind the 3d fg specialists, that are polishing their craft since the 90s. They never managed to get close to them, and every sequel of the mainstream 3d fgs showed nice changes over the 00s. And there was a point in the 00s where they all gave up 3d fgs. SNK quit after KOF MI R.A and this Samsho Sen (expectedly).
@@carlosaugusto9821 it's not some misunderstood gem. People understood what this game was when it was out. It had horrible unresponsive gameplay and it added a bunch of systems that it didn't properly explain until the home version and by the time that version was out there was no one to play with online even. Samurai show that was like for a reason and it had its fan base and for it to turn into this without any sort of care when it turned 3D was bad. Some and it has nothing to do with the fact that it went to 3D graphics it's the fact that it went completely 3D in terms of its gameplay where you can now go into the foreground. It went back to its roots back in 2019 and it's the best selling game in snk history. They tried something different with this game and failed for very widely known reasons. There's some cool ideas and characters in this game I would like to see in future installments. But whether you're someone that's new or purist this game was just mediocre compared to what came before it
@@isaiahhellems7901 And im not defending the gameplay either. But not because it changed to 3d... just because it was a bad job. Only meant to say that the criticism solely about the fact the gameplay system changed. After all that is just a "fgc opinion", i.e from people in the fgc bubble of hardcore fans. But that alone wont ruin a game's reputation. There are people who were newer Samsho fans and not attached enough to bash the change to 3d gameplay... and there are casuals, journalists, etc. So the game was a mess to everyone, even people who dont care enough for it to "stay true to the roots" or not. Its kinda like young people in the early 00s who got to know the 3d trilogy of MK games and didnt grow with the 2d games, so they wont judge the games negatively with the same bias of the older fans. If they dislike the game, its not just because of the change to 3d gameplay, but because of more objective flaws.
@@carlosaugusto9821 that's all I was saying . When the game went to 3D with sen it then had to be compared to its other peers like Street Fighter 4. Street Fighter 4 went through the but it still retained its to the classic roots. This game went with three divisions but also went with a 3D plane of play. Being able to go into the foreground. The bottom line is it became a objectively uglier game that doesn't age well. Controls are incredibly stiff and unresponsive like games in the previous line of games. If I were to compare this to other games that are also 3D in how they play like Tekken or soulcalibur then it doesn't even hold a candle to those. It was just a very poor attempt at a later 3D style samurai showdown game and it just failed on many fronts. Not only is Sen very overwhelming for newcomers (illegible move lists, little story context and no tutorials), but the stiffness is just hard to deal with, especially when AI opponents cut into you like a hot knife through butter. The Samurai Shodown series has seen better days. What started off as a well-loved 2D franchise has turned into Samurai Shodown Sen -- an ugly, one-on-one 3D fighter that fails to capture the charm of the original titles. Although this isn't the first time the series has ventured into the 3D space, it feels like the developer's rookie effort on a 3D project. Samurai Shodown Sen is awkward, stiff and the visuals are reminiscent of a middle of the road PS2 game.
That was an unusual artistic choice really, and its a shame that the gameplay turned out so bad (for late 00s). Because if the game was a success i would have loved to see it redefining the art style of the rest of Samsho series, and i like to imagine the future from that point. Like, when Samsho got in the ps4 gen would the art style be kinda close to MK11's? Probably not the same (because that grittiness is too western) but still somewhere near that level. That would really stand out considering the general art style of other jp fgs.
@@carlosaugusto9821grittiness is more often depicted when dealing with ghosts or any other supernatural entities. I wished we had an aged Haohmaru, for example.
The superior presentation of this title is wasted on the "WTF am I doing" gameplay ala Art of Fighting 3. Such a shame. To this very day, the game is visually stunning. I wouldn't mind seeing this game getting re-released with reworked controls to make it play like an actual Samurai Shodown game rather than some Tekken/Eretzvaju...thing.
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Angelica: Mi-na from Soul Calibur + Casca from Berserk
I was just about to ask if she's supposed to be a Casca expy.
This lady should have been included in Samurai Shodown 2019. Her storyline was interesting to me.
Well, SHIKI in the last Samurai Shodown is the more closer to this character in appareance.
SNK separates and isolates their 3d fgs treating them like something that must be forgotten. They tried to get in the 3d fg market since the 90s but always failed to make them really good just like the mainstream ones like TK, VF, SC, etc. There was a 3d Samsho and a 3d Fatal Fury, then KOF MI series in the 00s and this Samsho Sen lastly. And in all these cases the original chars from those games never got in the mainline series... except only Shiki because she became too popular because with SvC Chaos. Its a shame they are treated that way because all these rough 3d games have some interesting original chars.
Now look the current approach of NRS's latest games: it became common to feature some chars from the MK 3d trilogy, even though that is not a glorious moment of the series, and some of those chars werent even good. But they got new looks, moves, plot, etc and became more interesting. In this aspect NRS became a good example for the rest of the industry.
She kinda replaced by Darli there. Besides, it already have brooding assassin girl with Shiki.
@@carlosaugusto9821yeah, a shame. I kinda like some of Warrior Rage's character but they barely appear in new titles
She really looks like Claudia from a game called Shadow of Rome and I mean A LOT!! is almost the same character
I really wish some of the SS SEN characters appear in this game Samurai Showdown too.
Princess Suzu, Kirian and Draco
18:50 Best plot twist evar!
WOW 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
It's a new spinoff of both KOFXV and Samurai Showdown VI
19:58 That's quite brutal.
me and my brother played a bit of this game. its certainly an odd member of the series but still pretty fun in its own right
13:40 Angelica Clone do be looking like Mikasa Ackerman from Attack on Titan with the longer hair and red scarf.
Excellent choice excellent version well done again
Wow, a debut in the channel and a great surprise. (Though not for positive reasons) Well, at least the opening was very well made and impressive. If only the gameplay followed the same high quality, this could have been a nice 3d conversion for the series. Not to mention the importance of the genre gaining a new weapon 3d fg to walk together with the lone Soul Calibur.
Hey, the mexican Leona from the past.
I think this Samurai Shadown game have some pretty good ideas, I would like to see that mechanics of sercenated limbs or decapitations in the next Samurai Shodown besides the cutting in half mechanic, I think would add more drama to the battle, something like the "fatalities" from Samurai Shadown 4 you could have the option of kill your opponent by cutting in half, decapitation or maybe you would rather to spare the life of your opponent and only cutting his hand, or maybe this would be some kind of humilliation, I think they could apply that to the next game.
This game's "fatalities" are a pretty competent (for the time it was made) 3d adaptation of the early Samsho violent finishers. They are a full cutscene with dramatic angles, taking advantage of 3d technology. I dont agree with the gameplay aspects, like the way it happens when the opponent still has a large hp, but the idea itself of the finisher being a dramatic cutscene is great. Ironically that makes this game from 08 look more modern than the new Samsho that just imitates the violent finishers of the 2d games. I disagreed with that idea since the first time i saw it in the new game.
For a moment I thought that was the character Claudia from the Capcom classic Shadow of Rome
WOW!, except for the fatalities this is more closer to the Soul Calibur than the Samurai Shodown.
This was sure not the best response from SNK to a Capcom initiative: SF4, the new 3d/2.5d conversion of SF, was also released in 2008... shortly after Samsho Sen but actually announced before. But it makes me wonder how SNK and Samsho history would have gone if this game was a very successful 3d conversion like SF4...
What if the positive sales motivated SNK to invest really hard on 3d graphics and animation of the future KOF 14? What if the positive reception to a 3d fg from SNK encouraged them to keep the KOF Maximum Impact series for at least little longer? What if the earnings motivated them to revive Fatal Fury much earlier?
Outstanding video.
Angelica reminds me of Casca from Berserk ^^
Casca was fighting here while in that state after the Eclipse, then...
Imagine a Draco mirror match.
Phenomenal walkthrought,Loading Geek
No doubt,you was born for this
Angelica...i love you,babe🥵😍🥰🤤😋,great choice😏
Grettings from Argentina,it was a pleasant to meet you again👋🏻🌃🇦🇷
She looks like a character from Dungeons And Dragons.
7:09 Issen!
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Angelica looks more like what happens when Guts and Caska (both from "Berserk") have twin daughters that were mysteriously taken from them. They would take after their mother.
Not gonna lie, imo, this's the direction Samurai Shodown *should've* ultimately gone, with the *only* things changed being that the colors were brighter and more saturated (the muting makes everything look like it's in a nuclear winter), and that they used the *8-way run* system instead of the 3D dodge; oh, and Draco should have to reload his shotgun after every *two* shots, since that's how shotguns work *irl* , and it'd actually make it decently *balanced* .
13:15 calford has get cut in half!!
If there's anything worth salvaging from this game, it's Angelica.
Angelica 🥵
令和のサムライスピリッツには
ギルティギアより梅喧（バイケン）が
来タカラ面白クナッタゼ😊
360 exclusive?
I can see why this failed. They tried to make it like soul Calibur and they controls were not good
The way i see it, it must not be because it turned 3d, but because its just too bad. Sure there were criticisms from purists for the mere fact it turned to 3d, but a lot of criticisms focused on how bad the 3d gameplay is. Because 3d tech and gameplay evolved really nice since the 90s, and that roughness was unacceptable. For reference, Soul Calibur 4 is from the same year of this game.
But there's also the point that 2d fg specialists like Capcom, SNK, and the MK's devs, always wanted to get into that 3d fg market and always failed pathetically. Like SFEX, Rival Schools, MK4, and the early Samsho 3d games are all from the same time of Tekken 3 and yet look much rougher, like a generation behind. Then a generation later, SFEX3, RS2/Project Justice and the MK 3d trilogy look much inferior to TK4, VF4, SC1 and DOA2, that are from the same period. And when KOF MI came it was very inferior to TK4 and those other 3d fgs, and when MKA came there was already TK5 and SC3. And lets not forget that Capcom had a 1st part 3d crossover that was cancelled in 2003 because it was too bad, and CvS3 was planned to be in 3d and was cancelled. So Capcom's fg devs were so incompetent in 3d that the games werent even completed.
So its like the 2d fg specialists, when making 3d fgs, were always many steps behind the 3d fg specialists, that are polishing their craft since the 90s. They never managed to get close to them, and every sequel of the mainstream 3d fgs showed nice changes over the 00s. And there was a point in the 00s where they all gave up 3d fgs. SNK quit after KOF MI R.A and this Samsho Sen (expectedly).
@@carlosaugusto9821 it's not some misunderstood gem. People understood what this game was when it was out. It had horrible unresponsive gameplay and it added a bunch of systems that it didn't properly explain until the home version and by the time that version was out there was no one to play with online even. Samurai show that was like for a reason and it had its fan base and for it to turn into this without any sort of care when it turned 3D was bad. Some and it has nothing to do with the fact that it went to 3D graphics it's the fact that it went completely 3D in terms of its gameplay where you can now go into the foreground. It went back to its roots back in 2019 and it's the best selling game in snk history. They tried something different with this game and failed for very widely known reasons. There's some cool ideas and characters in this game I would like to see in future installments. But whether you're someone that's new or purist this game was just mediocre compared to what came before it
@@isaiahhellems7901 And im not defending the gameplay either. But not because it changed to 3d... just because it was a bad job. Only meant to say that the criticism solely about the fact the gameplay system changed. After all that is just a "fgc opinion", i.e from people in the fgc bubble of hardcore fans.
But that alone wont ruin a game's reputation. There are people who were newer Samsho fans and not attached enough to bash the change to 3d gameplay... and there are casuals, journalists, etc. So the game was a mess to everyone, even people who dont care enough for it to "stay true to the roots" or not. Its kinda like young people in the early 00s who got to know the 3d trilogy of MK games and didnt grow with the 2d games, so they wont judge the games negatively with the same bias of the older fans. If they dislike the game, its not just because of the change to 3d gameplay, but because of more objective flaws.
@@carlosaugusto9821 that's all I was saying . When the game went to 3D with sen it then had to be compared to its other peers like Street Fighter 4. Street Fighter 4 went through the but it still retained its to the classic roots. This game went with three divisions but also went with a 3D plane of play. Being able to go into the foreground. The bottom line is it became a objectively uglier game that doesn't age well. Controls are incredibly stiff and unresponsive like games in the previous line of games. If I were to compare this to other games that are also 3D in how they play like Tekken or soulcalibur then it doesn't even hold a candle to those. It was just a very poor attempt at a later 3D style samurai showdown game and it just failed on many fronts. Not only is Sen very overwhelming for newcomers (illegible move lists, little story context and no tutorials), but the stiffness is just hard to deal with, especially when AI opponents cut into you like a hot knife through butter. The Samurai Shodown series has seen better days. What started off as a well-loved 2D franchise has turned into Samurai Shodown Sen -- an ugly, one-on-one 3D fighter that fails to capture the charm of the original titles. Although this isn't the first time the series has ventured into the 3D space, it feels like the developer's rookie effort on a 3D project. Samurai Shodown Sen is awkward, stiff and the visuals are reminiscent of a middle of the road PS2 game.
Caska?
It is too rare for a Japanese media to depict a dark-skinned woman.
Speaking of the 90s i think only Capcom opened up to the idea with SF's Elena.
@@carlosaugusto9821berserk?!
You either get a sunburned anime girl or an actual ethnic dark-skinned woman.
It is not , they are so common that you even have tags for them in manga and anime image aggregators sites.
Uh no.
Who is she? First time I hear about her.
It used to be a grittier setting, and now turned into another generic 3D waifu roster.
Yeah, it sucks.
That was an unusual artistic choice really, and its a shame that the gameplay turned out so bad (for late 00s). Because if the game was a success i would have loved to see it redefining the art style of the rest of Samsho series, and i like to imagine the future from that point. Like, when Samsho got in the ps4 gen would the art style be kinda close to MK11's? Probably not the same (because that grittiness is too western) but still somewhere near that level. That would really stand out considering the general art style of other jp fgs.
@@carlosaugusto9821grittiness is more often depicted when dealing with ghosts or any other supernatural entities. I wished we had an aged Haohmaru, for example.
@@nosotrosloslobosestamosreg4115Yeah, in the original trilogy the player had to deal with a magic user in each game.
excuse me they had a soul calibur shodown? this is interesting. And fatalities???
This game wasn't good, but the new characters are way more interesting than SamSho 2019's IMO, from a design standpoint.
The superior presentation of this title is wasted on the "WTF am I doing" gameplay ala Art of Fighting 3. Such a shame. To this very day, the game is visually stunning. I wouldn't mind seeing this game getting re-released with reworked controls to make it play like an actual Samurai Shodown game rather than some Tekken/Eretzvaju...thing.