That poor mom really went through the emotional wringer: kid abducted, kid returned, wasn't really her bio kid, found her bio kid, bio kid does of cancer. Nice to hear the one she raised still call her mom.
@@RDCFemmes I did some reading, he had a twin sister who has never been found. The parents were abusive, so the theory is they killed his sister and abandoned him.
Uhm.. she had a son she raised that she believed to be him, and he was. Biology plays no role in family. I say this as somebody whose adopted. Your REAL mom is the mom that raised you!
The son they raised loved them enough to find their real son. They raised him to be a good loving caring person. Sad to hear their real son passed away but they still have that loving son in the form of the one they raised.
@@courtneycoley8487, that seems to be very unlikely as he died of cancer. Further, it appears that, even though he was kidnapped, he also was raised with love and care and passed that on to his children. This might not be true, but it looks to be.
The other Paul with white hair has many videos on TH-cam. He is trying to find his biological family through his DNA test. He knows he has a sister. He was the abandoned baby in New Jersey. He is a really nice man and I hope he finds his biological family.
@@charaardrey5846 Not sure. I can't find the video I watched, but 8 News Now Las Vegas has a video titled Paul Fronczak Part 2: Stolen Baby Mystery Solved that explains the findings.
I'm so relieved that the true mother got to speak with her baby boy before he passed. Would have been a shame if they never did. I'm sure Kevin had a really hard time accepting it...anyone would, especially after 56 years.
@@courtneycoley8487 she wasn't a nurse, she was the woman who raised Kevin as her son...she was dating a doctor at the hospital...she should spend the rest of her days in jail if still alive
When I had my babies, they put tiny electronic anklets on them that locked all doors and even the elevators when my husband and I took walks around the floor with them. Each time we passed an exit of any kind, I heard a clanking sound. Cases like this inspired that technology.
Back in 2011 we were touring the hospital before giving birth to our first child, a father tried to take a newborn out of the hospital to spite the mother who had just given birth. Those electronic anklets set off alarms, doors automatically locked, the elevator shut down. Sad they have to do that but it was reassuring to see those devices work in real time.
Yup I took my daughter too far after having her and alarms started going off I stopped and said what in the world is that a nurse said well your daughter has an alarm on her ankle it's In place to keep kidnappers from taking her I have five children two of which are twins they put that ankle monitor on every last one of my children I knew after I had my first what to expect with my other children I'm happy they have these in place also it's a good idea to take a long look at your children to prevent switch and baits in the hospital I check my kid's out good before they take them away
@@angelika_munkastrap4634 Every child has to get checked out after birth they even do drug tests on your child to make sure the mom was not using anything they also do blood work amongst other things they also get shots too right after birth it's so much going on after the birth of a child everything is new with your first birth after that you pretty much know what to expect for first time mother's we didn't know how to push I kept sucking my daughter back in 😂 I was told to push like I was pooping 🤣 after that first birth I was a professional thereafter heck most babies push themselves out two of my children push themselves out without me pushing Also with my experience my daughter's gave me the most pain my son's did not
I had my last one in 93, hubs had stayed the night with me the first 2 births by the 3 rd his back had been injured & he couldn't sleep in a chair so my older son stayed . They didn't have the high tech stuff to lock doors back then. Glad they have it now !
The unknown had to be torture. I read somewhere she suspected he wasn't hers but wanted to keep him. She must have laid awake at night wondering. Glad they found him before he passed.
Could you imagine the position she was in? Desperately wanting her biological child back, but being afraid that if she found him they might take away the baby she had been raising.
I think she knew as well because the son stated that she was angry at him for taking the test. He said she was adamant about that. He said the mother stopped talking to him for a year and they made peace well before she died. He also said there were certain things he didn't understand when he was younger. He felt she had secrets, outside of the fact that he looked like no one else in the family. That is what made him get the test because he had questions.
I am so happy that his birth Mother was able to talk to him before he died. So sad they did not have more time. I hope his children reach out to their biological Grandmother and have a relationship with her.
They said in the story that the children of the man in Michigan suspected that their father was the stolen baby, but they don’t explain why the children thought that. I’m curious!
Probably something like Ancestry DNA and maybe noticing that their grandma was off about stuff. My mom discovered my granddads birthday was fake via Astrology and a gut feeling. 🤷
It’s too bad the children don’t try to have a relationship with their biological grandmother. Such a kind, sweet, loving person. And she doesn’t have a lot of time left. They could be learning family history, medical history for their future kids. They may feel loyal to the woman who raised their dad, but they have to remember he was kidnapped and taken unwillingly from the real grandparents.
the man who was the abandoned baby had a good life, I think the mom knew he wasn't hers but she had grieved so hard so just wanted it to end. I think this woman loves both of these men, which is heartwarming.
I feel bad for the real Paul bc another child got to grow up with his parents and the life he was supposed to have. Who knows who that crazy nurse gave him too
@@courtneycoley8487 I would Never, Ever, Give My Own Baby Up to Anyone that was Posing as a Nurse or Doctor or Security Guard, or as THE ROCK would say, "It Doesn't Matter Who It Is", also I've heard about Distraught Women that Might've been Pregnant with their own Baby, and sometime later had a miscarriage and lost the baby, so she had to pretend that she was still pregnant, by using fake pregnancy pads, and had to get a baby, by kidnapping one baby is like replacing the one that had been miscarried.
It was her. Apparently she was dating a Dr from Chicago when baby Paul went missing, then later met Robert Fountain, who became her husband. She kidnapped that baby..
And I got ripped to shreds for suggesting that his mom and dad were in on it (hence how else would they end up with a baby that didn’t belong to them) and everyone went nuts on me
This has been happening for hundred of years and more often than we know of. Lot of people walking around and unknowingly bearing family names that are not really theirs.🙄
@@davidmorley1606 I think that Lorraine Fountain, fake mother has abducted Paul Fronczak a.k.a. Kevin Baty. What is sad that David Fronczak, his brother reached to Kevin Baty children and they do not want to talk to him. David is trying to find more information about their fake grandmother. Lorraine Fountain was married 3 times, she had 2 children from a previous marriage but did not bring them up. She was born in 1921, she abducted Paul in 1964. She married her last husband Robert Fountain after the child abduction. She died in 2004. Go to Geni website.
@@courtneycoley8487 however It was done it was done. I'm sure she was ok with it. I know he was terminally ill and they spoke multiple times. Mrs.Franczack got *PEACE*. I thank God that she received that before leaving this earth .(unequivocal PROOF her baby was alive. You don't always get what you want... sometimes you just get what you get. It's on you to make it LEMONADE. Capeche???
@@water2wine1 I think it was the toddler they originally thought was the stolen babies family that are being unkind. I read somewhere they refuse to have any contact with him. He found out he had been terribly abused as a toddler before he was abandoned.
Kevin was an acquaintance/friend of mine and we had beers, laughs and pool games at the Hollywood bar in Lake City Michigan on several occasions; I moved to Hawaii in 07 so we never spoke again, but he was a solid guy and will be missed!
Why would Kevin not want to meet in person his biological parents? I could imagine it was a shock and he must of loved and had loyalty to his what he believed to be his mother. But being a parent himself, his biological parents went through so much pain and needed closure. I guess it’s good he finally talked to them on the phone but it sounds like the conversations were brief and few. The biological mother had so many more questions. Time is so short.
@@ritaturner9906 It’s probably because he was raised by that evil and criminal woman, the one who kidnapped him. I can’t imagine she was a good influence or fake parent.
Yeah and the guy raised as Paul (was found abandoned as a toddler) has a twin sister that also went missing. He suspected his birth parents killed her.
The man passed away and his children didn’t care to comment, so in a town of 1,200 people the News Reporter got the next closest character witness: a gas station attendant; where he often frequented. In these small towns everybody knows one another.
she worked at the single store in that town ( 1200 pop ) and knew the guy before he died. She said he was always upbeat and nice. It gave us an idea of who he turned out to be before he died of cancer and allowed her to give her thoughts on what it must have been like for him. She was not just some random person.
I was paranoid about this kind of stories. Before my delivery, I was decided that I will never deliver my baby at the hospital. Reason why I insist to deliver my baby at home with a midwife.
Lorraine Fontaine is responsible for all of their suffering. It shows how a selfish person's terrible act is finally brought to daylight. Nothing but damnation for her memory
This is soo heartbreaking...wow..RIP to him. I just came from a news story that mentioned he'd been found but he wasn't ready to go public until he "tied up some loose ends" whatever that means but I'm glad he got to speak with his bio mom before he passed on..I can't imagine what emotions they all felt/are feeling about this whole situation
So happy mother Fronczak and stolen birth son KEVIN were able to talk before his death. Paul (JACK) deserves so much credit for his determination to find the Fronczak s’ real birth son and the his own family. He did find info on his real birth name (Jack) but I believe I read that both of Jack’s real birth parents are deceased. He had a twin sister that he is looking for (possibly deceased). Regardless, the Fronczaks who raised Jack are his true parents. They gave their lives and love to him, even though they did not conceive him.
This has a bittersweet ending. Paul's mom finally having closure of her real son, but sad that when she finally found him, he died of cancer. And the fact that his dad never gotten to get that closure.😢
Very sad story. Sometimes stories of adoption don’t come out the way they want or expect. They have been abandoned for some reason. Some reasons are good and some are really terrible. But I guess not knowing at all is worse than knowing the truth no matter how bad it is. I hope Jack’s sister Jill is in a better place right now, whether she’s still alive or not. As for the Fronczak parents, they have been through a lot! How many times do they have to lose their son! Abducted at birth, returned as a fake son and then knowing at a late age that the son they raised is not really Paul, then eventually knowing him but then died of cancer. I hope this family finds peace.
It's a blessing the couple adopted Jack because otherwise he would have ended up in the horrible foster care system and the couple would have no child. He was really given a new chance at life. I hope the sister is alright and I hope he finds her.
I've watched a few videos about this. This is the only one that lets me know what some unnamed woman in front of a Windows 10 lock screen thinks about it, "That's crazy". Thank you for that.
@@floridagirl9064 Hi real parents. Poor guy finds out that they were pretty disfunctional, he was abandoned and his sister was never reported missing. Both sides of the family were told that she was with the other. There is a video of him digging up the whole yard in the house they lived in, trying to find her body.
Wow...this is so sad! I hope the mother finds out who took her bio son, who raised him and other details before she passes away as well...she deserves this closure. I also hope her grandkids see her as well. ☹
I believe that Paul life would have been different if it was not for his abduction. I believe that his work might have contributed to his cancer. If he lived with his true family he would have received more education. I believe that it was Lorraine Fountain who abducted him. I wished we knew how she obtained a false birth certificate.
I don't care if Lorraine Fountain is dead she still needs to be investigated! Did she work with other women who kidnapped babies from hospitals? Or was this abduction a once off thing!? Or did she regularly kidnap babies for other families!? Are other kids missing!?
You would think. It’s too bad she died so soon. I think regardless that Kevin loved her and wanted to protect her and appears his kids feel the same, she committed a crime (potentially) and the poor biological parents and everyone else suffered. But due to lack of evidence (time,possibly no witnesses wanting to step forward, forgot or died) law enforcement not wanting to put money into solving. I’m wondering how close the kidnapper looked to the sketch drawings and description. And if the kidnapper kept any paperwork, newspaper articles about the kidnapping etc? Who did the kidnapper name as the father on the birth certificate and what does that person remember! I’m glad they have paternity testing now.
@@ritaturner9906 I always feel deeply saddened when I think of this story. Kevin died, the woman who raised him died, was there a father figure in his life? He must have grown up with some siblings - - if they're alive they're not talking, Kevin's children aren't talking. Perhaps the Baty children have asked everyone to stop investigating. I have not seen even a high school picture from a yearbook of Kevin. Is Mrs. Froncziak still alive as of now? She's not talking about her conversations with Kevin during that last year. She is a very private person and wants everything to remain private. Everyone has a right to privacy but I sure do want to know the details of how it all happened.
Ohh my gosh that poor woman. Lost her first baby, had her second baby stolen from her arms, then has the wrong child returned to her, probably questions if this is really her child everyday for so long, then finds out it’s NOT her child, so she’s feeling the heart braking realization that you don’t know where your baby is still, and have to deal with the pain of losing that familial connection of the child she raised and still loved, loses her husband, then finds her baby boy after all this time, and I’m sure that really hurt knowing her husband couldn’t meet him, then has to lose him and grieve him all over again. 😭😭😭 Sadly my grandma had a similar but also very different story. She too had a stillbirth but she had 9 children in all, my Uncle told the family he had Mesothelioma and had won a lawsuit and was going to sail off in a boat and just fall over the edge when it got too bad and they would never hear from him again... my grandmother went 25+ years not knowing if her child was dead or alive, where his body was, if he was happy when he died, if he was scared, in pain. She wished him happy birthday by yelling into the sky every year. Then my grandfather got Alzheimer’s and she watched her soul mate whither away in front of her. He passed and a few years later, a woman showed up claiming to be my uncles ex wife and said she was tired of taking care of him and that he was in a nursing home and he was basically their problem now. My uncle was very much alive but he had many health problems and very bad dementia and most of it was caused by heavy drug use, drinking, and a life of PARTYING! So my grandmother being a mom took care of him and had to watch the child she had grieved for 25+ years wither and die in front of her the way she had just watched her soul mate pass away.
The cruelty of taking a baby,not caring about the grief of that baby’s family, not caring that the mother will never know what happened to her child, is pure evil. You cannot truly care about the baby either, because you have robbed him of his true identity. A lifetime of pain for everyone.
Very sad for the biological mom and dad. Sad for the baby and equally heart breaking for the man.. Who took the initiative of finding everyone's true identity God bless
The worst Dream “l ever had as a kid” that Stick’s out in my Mind l had been kidnapped and raised by someone Else. felt really sad that l had missed out on a life with my Mother and felt frustrated that we couldn’t be together but when l finally “got free and got to See Her “ after many year’s...she was very old and sate in a wheelchair, l took her hand gently, lovingly “it’s me” l told her she “didn’t know “who l was” she was “senile” When l woke Up I cryed and wrapped my arm’s Around my Mom
yeah, i was pretty triggered watching the 'lost boys' documentary about this case, having suffered a miscarriage 2 years ago and being 6 months pregnant right now.. i don't even want to imagine that.
This is sad, and what a story it wove. At the very least, the man was notified of his true identity at birth and was able to reach out with his biological mother in his last moments. I think a positive of this is it allowed Paul(/Jack) to have a good childhood growing up. His birth parents seem to be absolute wrecks.
😟 I hope the best comes to you & your heart. Some one loved you , it's best than no one loving you at all . Been there, much, much, sincerest love to U 💕
Thank you God for this small blessing for Mother and Son!" My God...it's finally over. I had my baby in Chicago just two weeks before, and this event really felt very close to me. Then to find they hadn't gotten Paul back..and now this? WOW!
Probably Kevin Batey didnt want to come forward because he was dissapointed to find out the "mother" who raised him and loved him was a kidnapper. May he RIP!
So the real mother has genetic grandchildren and she hasnt met them? Her son talked to her but they never met??? Whats wrong with people?This Lorraine woman is given all sorts of consideration and she was a monster stealing somebody’s newborn baby and is actually being protected??? WTH????
I didn’t realize the mother that raised him was named Dora and his parents were Jewish. My wife just discovered through Ancestry her long lost aunt. In this case she was taken from the hospital in Havana, Cuba in the 1950’s my wife’s grandparents were shown a dead baby and told them had died. She was “Adopted” by a Jewish couple, her “adopted” mother’s name was Dora. She was raised as an Orthodox Jewish girl. Both of her “Adopted” Jewish parents died. My wife’s aunt reunited with her real mother which is 93 years old.
That poor mom really went through the emotional wringer: kid abducted, kid returned, wasn't really her bio kid, found her bio kid, bio kid does of cancer. Nice to hear the one she raised still call her mom.
so who is the mother of the fake son?
@@RDCFemmes his parents were not good ones so to me, of all the players in this story, he made out the best.
@@RDCFemmes I did some reading, he had a twin sister who has never been found. The parents were abusive, so the theory is they killed his sister and abandoned him.
Yea, I thought that was really respectful of him, I mean I guess she still really was his mom.
@@RDCFemmes Don't say fake. Say non biological. That man is very much that couple's son. He even found their biological son before he died.
That's devastating to outlive a son you never got to raise.
That poor woman.
Had to be torture. 😢
Heartbreaking
At least they got to speak to each other before he died
Uhm.. she had a son she raised that she believed to be him, and he was. Biology plays no role in family. I say this as somebody whose adopted. Your REAL mom is the mom that raised you!
Glad the mom actually got a chance to talk to him before he passed.
Yes
Yes..
Yes
Wish she could have done more than that
It was just some stranger.
The son they raised loved them enough to find their real son. They raised him to be a good loving caring person. Sad to hear their real son passed away but they still have that loving son in the form of the one they raised.
If he had never been stolen he still might be alive today.. he would have grown up differently
@@courtneycoley8487, that seems to be very unlikely as he died of cancer. Further, it appears that, even though he was kidnapped, he also was raised with love and care and passed that on to his children. This might not be true, but it looks to be.
@@jayt9608 I would love to see a photo of the lady who raised him. Wonder would she look like the nurse who kidnapped him.
A wonderful team together.
The other Paul with white hair has many videos on TH-cam. He is trying to find his biological family through his DNA test. He knows he has a sister. He was the abandoned baby in New Jersey. He is a really nice man and I hope he finds his biological family.
He already found out his identity. I just came here from the video where he got results.
@@IzzyKawaiichi hey what’s the name of his channel
@@charaardrey5846 Not sure. I can't find the video I watched, but 8 News Now Las Vegas has a video titled Paul Fronczak Part 2: Stolen Baby Mystery Solved that explains the findings.
@@IzzyKawaiichi oh okay thank you
He already found his family, they were very disfunctional.
He even has the same little smirk as he did in his newborn picture!
Sketch
@@Sidkus No! Pic
I was thinking about how he took after his mother in that picture. Especially in the hair.
I'm so relieved that the true mother got to speak with her baby boy before he passed. Would have been a shame if they never did. I'm sure Kevin had a really hard time accepting it...anyone would, especially after 56 years.
I wonder who that crazy kidnapping nurse gave him too
@@courtneycoley8487 she wasn't a nurse, she was the woman who raised Kevin as her son...she was dating a doctor at the hospital...she should spend the rest of her days in jail if still alive
What's sad is that she lost her son twice.
When I had my babies, they put tiny electronic anklets on them that locked all doors and even the elevators when my husband and I took walks around the floor with them. Each time we passed an exit of any kind, I heard a clanking sound. Cases like this inspired that technology.
Back in 2011 we were touring the hospital before giving birth to our first child, a father tried to take a newborn out of the hospital to spite the mother who had just given birth. Those electronic anklets set off alarms, doors automatically locked, the elevator shut down. Sad they have to do that but it was reassuring to see those devices work in real time.
Yup I took my daughter too far after having her and alarms started going off I stopped and said what in the world is that a nurse said well your daughter has an alarm on her ankle it's In place to keep kidnappers from taking her I have five children two of which are twins they put that ankle monitor on every last one of my children I knew after I had my first what to expect with my other children I'm happy they have these in place also it's a good idea to take a long look at your children to prevent switch and baits in the hospital I check my kid's out good before they take them away
Why do they have to take them away?
@@angelika_munkastrap4634
Every child has to get checked out after birth they even do drug tests on your child to make sure the mom was not using anything they also do blood work amongst other things they also get shots too right after birth it's so much going on after the birth of a child everything is new with your first birth after that you pretty much know what to expect for first time mother's we didn't know how to push I kept sucking my daughter back in 😂 I was told to push like I was pooping 🤣 after that first birth I was a professional thereafter heck most babies push themselves out two of my children push themselves out without me pushing
Also with my experience my daughter's gave me the most pain my son's did not
I had my last one in 93, hubs had stayed the night with me the first 2 births by the 3 rd his back had been injured & he couldn't sleep in a chair so my older son stayed . They didn't have the high tech stuff to lock doors back then. Glad they have it now !
The unknown had to be torture. I read somewhere she suspected he wasn't hers but wanted to keep him. She must have laid awake at night wondering. Glad they found him before he passed.
Reminds me of the movie Changeling.
Could you imagine the position she was in? Desperately wanting her biological child back, but being afraid that if she found him they might take away the baby she had been raising.
I think she knew as well because the son stated that she was angry at him for taking the test. He said she was adamant about that. He said the mother stopped talking to him for a year and they made peace well before she died. He also said there were certain things he didn't understand when he was younger. He felt she had secrets, outside of the fact that he looked like no one else in the family. That is what made him get the test because he had questions.
I am so happy that his birth Mother was able to talk to him before he died. So sad they did not have more time. I hope his children reach out to their biological Grandmother and have a relationship with her.
Stop taking other people's children.
They said in the story that the children of the man in Michigan suspected that their father was the stolen baby, but they don’t explain why the children thought that. I’m curious!
Me too!!!
Maybe they took a DNA test
it was probably because he was the same age and didn't look like their grandparents, and the kids wanted to believe a story so dramatic and exciting
Probably something like Ancestry DNA and maybe noticing that their grandma was off about stuff.
My mom discovered my granddads birthday was fake via Astrology and a gut feeling. 🤷
It’s too bad the children don’t try to have a relationship with their biological grandmother. Such a kind, sweet, loving person. And she doesn’t have a lot of time left. They could be learning family history, medical history for their future kids. They may feel loyal to the woman who raised their dad, but they have to remember he was kidnapped and taken unwillingly from the real grandparents.
The son she raise is such a good man. He is a blessing.
It's so wonderful to finally see the face of the real baby. And it touches my heart that he did make contact with his mother.
Oh wow I remember watching this so glad the mom FINALLY found her son
the man who was the abandoned baby had a good life, I think the mom knew he wasn't hers but she had grieved so hard so just wanted it to end.
I think this woman loves both of these men, which is heartwarming.
I feel bad for the real Paul bc another child got to grow up with his parents and the life he was supposed to have. Who knows who that crazy nurse gave him too
@@courtneycoley8487 I would Never, Ever, Give My Own Baby Up to Anyone that was Posing as a Nurse or Doctor or Security Guard, or as THE ROCK would say, "It Doesn't Matter Who It Is", also I've heard about Distraught Women that Might've been Pregnant with their own Baby, and sometime later had a miscarriage and lost the baby, so she had to pretend that she was still pregnant, by using fake pregnancy pads, and had to get a baby, by kidnapping one baby is like replacing the one that had been miscarried.
So it seems Kevin's mother, Lorraine Fountain, was the culprit who kidnapped him as a baby.
It was her. Apparently she was dating a Dr from Chicago when baby Paul went missing, then later met Robert Fountain, who became her husband. She kidnapped that baby..
Probably told the doctor she was pregnant to snag him. Then had to produce a baby.
@@kencurtis2403 she wanted that Dr. Money
@TheGuyVu What???
And I got ripped to shreds for suggesting that his mom and dad were in on it (hence how else would they end up with a baby that didn’t belong to them) and everyone went nuts on me
Tragic! Imagine you find out your parents kidnapped you, and removed you from your real family.
@@cicicave1279 what does adoption have to do with this story? This is about a criminal who kidnapped a baby...
Funny how they don’t show a picture of the woman that raised the real Paul
This has been happening for hundred of years and more often than we know of. Lot of people walking around and unknowingly bearing family names that are not really theirs.🙄
@@davidmorley1606 I think that Lorraine Fountain, fake mother has abducted Paul Fronczak a.k.a. Kevin Baty. What is sad that David Fronczak, his brother reached to Kevin Baty children and they do not want to talk to him. David is trying to find more information about their fake grandmother.
Lorraine Fountain was married 3 times, she had 2 children from a previous marriage but did not bring them up. She was
born in 1921, she abducted Paul in 1964. She married her last husband Robert Fountain after the child abduction. She died in 2004. Go to Geni website.
Mother Hen of Damnifiknow Farms
Thank you. I was wondering the same thing. Who is talking about adoption!
I am so happy Paul was found and reunited with his Mom after 50 years missing.
Sort of
No they weren't. Only in a phone call
@@courtneycoley8487 however It was done it was done. I'm sure she was ok with it. I know he was terminally ill and they spoke multiple times. Mrs.Franczack got *PEACE*. I thank God that she received that before leaving this earth .(unequivocal PROOF her baby was alive. You don't always get what you want... sometimes you just get what you get. It's on you to make it LEMONADE. Capeche???
That’s sad. At least his real birth mom was able to at least talk to him before he died.
So happy she got to talk to him. She now is able to have her grandchildren in her life. This is such a happy and sad ending.
I have heard they have not been kind.
@@water2wine1 I think it was the toddler they originally thought was the stolen babies family that are being unkind. I read somewhere they refuse to have any contact with him. He found out he had been terribly abused as a toddler before he was abandoned.
WOW. I’ve been waiting for an update on this story.. So pleased to see some ‘closure’.. ❤️
Me too I watch a lot of crime stories and rhis one stayed with me Im glad bio mum met her bio son Sad their time was limited
It's interesting that it was the real Paul Fronczak's children who suspected it might be him. Makes you wonder where they got that idea.
That's a really good question 🤔...
I think due to the DNA results.
Their own dna test sent them info about their dad....
Because of DNA doesnt make him be the baby kidnapped, they were on to something…. Also, they havent met their “real” grandmother!
I remember this in 1964, our mother would not let us out of her site, because of it....
What's your age?
@@Sidkus I would say he’s like 60-65 since he remembered that and you mostly don’t remember stuff until you’re like five years old
Oh my gosh. I’m glad there’s answers! I wish them all peace and love!
Oh man so glad they found him!! ♥️♥️♥️ even better he was able to talk to him mother. Thats amazing.
I hope that the "not" Paul finds out his identity so much...he has worked very hard to do that...so good luck,"Paul".
Jack Rosenthal
He already found his family, they were disfunctional.
@@V.E.R.O. Yeah. He was lucky.
Kevin was an acquaintance/friend of mine and we had beers, laughs and pool games at the Hollywood bar in Lake City Michigan on several occasions; I moved to Hawaii in 07 so we never spoke again, but he was a solid guy and will be missed!
Why would Kevin not want to meet in person his biological parents? I could imagine it was a shock and he must of loved and had loyalty to his what he believed to be his mother. But being a parent himself, his biological parents went through so much pain and needed closure. I guess it’s good he finally talked to them on the phone but it sounds like the conversations were brief and few. The biological mother had so many more questions. Time is so short.
@@ritaturner9906 It’s probably because he was raised by that evil and criminal woman, the one who kidnapped him. I can’t imagine she was a good influence or fake parent.
This is just so sad and confusing. Aloha
Wow, never thought he would be found.
I just listened to this case a couple weeks ago and now I see this.
Hollywood couldn't have made this one up! Just WOW!!!
Yeah and the guy raised as Paul (was found abandoned as a toddler) has a twin sister that also went missing. He suspected his birth parents killed her.
meh. I've seen crazier real life stories than this.
@@maysmith4906 Yes. And her name is Jill lol.
The whole story is just so unfair to everyone involved 😞
Who was the woman packing cigarettes and why was she even asked how she felt?
ya, what a waste of our time ...
The man passed away and his children didn’t care to comment, so in a town of 1,200 people the News Reporter got the next closest character witness:
a gas station attendant; where he often frequented. In these small towns everybody knows one another.
@@ask4theupgrade359 ok but context before hand might have been beneficial.
she worked at the single store in that town ( 1200 pop ) and knew the guy before he died. She said he was always upbeat and nice. It gave us an idea of who he turned out to be before he died of cancer and allowed her to give her thoughts on what it must have been like for him. She was not just some random person.
She sold him the cigarettes that killed him. What a job! ROE
I was paranoid about this kind of stories. Before my delivery, I was decided that I will never deliver my baby at the hospital. Reason why I insist to deliver my baby at home with a midwife.
Good decision. I wish I did that
So sad on so many levels.
Lorraine Fontaine is responsible for all of their suffering. It shows how a selfish person's terrible act is finally brought to daylight. Nothing but damnation for her memory
How tragic for his biological parents and children! Pure evil stealing a child.
This is soo heartbreaking...wow..RIP to him. I just came from a news story that mentioned he'd been found but he wasn't ready to go public until he "tied up some loose ends" whatever that means but I'm glad he got to speak with his bio mom before he passed on..I can't imagine what emotions they all felt/are feeling about this whole situation
Such a shame he didn’t have more time to get to know his birth mom
This clip makes so much sense unlike Inside Edition. Thanks
So happy mother Fronczak and stolen birth son KEVIN were able to talk before his death. Paul (JACK) deserves so much credit for his determination to find the Fronczak s’ real birth son and the his own family. He did find info on his real birth name (Jack) but I believe I read that both of Jack’s real birth parents are deceased. He had a twin sister that he is looking for (possibly deceased).
Regardless, the Fronczaks who raised Jack are his true parents. They gave their lives and love to him, even though they did not conceive him.
This has a bittersweet ending. Paul's mom finally having closure of her real son, but sad that when she finally found him, he died of cancer. And the fact that his dad never gotten to get that closure.😢
Very sad story. Sometimes stories of adoption don’t come out the way they want or expect. They have been abandoned for some reason. Some reasons are good and some are really terrible. But I guess not knowing at all is worse than knowing the truth no matter how bad it is.
I hope Jack’s sister Jill is in a better place right now, whether she’s still alive or not.
As for the Fronczak parents, they have been through a lot! How many times do they have to lose their son! Abducted at birth, returned as a fake son and then knowing at a late age that the son they raised is not really Paul, then eventually knowing him but then died of cancer.
I hope this family finds peace.
This wasn't adoption. This was kidnapping!
It's a blessing the couple adopted Jack because otherwise he would have ended up in the horrible foster care system and the couple would have no child. He was really given a new chance at life. I hope the sister is alright and I hope he finds her.
I've watched a few videos about this. This is the only one that lets me know what some unnamed woman in front of a Windows 10 lock screen thinks about it, "That's crazy". Thank you for that.
Now we gotta find Paul (Jacks) twin sister Jill.
They believe she was killed by the parents.
Yes...after all this man has done to solve this case he deserves to know what became of her. ☹
@@ivydickson7596 that just breaks my heart💔
@@ivydickson7596 what parents?
@@floridagirl9064 Hi real parents. Poor guy finds out that they were pretty disfunctional, he was abandoned and his sister was never reported missing. Both sides of the family were told that she was with the other. There is a video of him digging up the whole yard in the house they lived in, trying to find her body.
Wow that is amazing. Wish you the best finding your twin. Come on siblings help out!
Why do people do this? How could you be so evil as to steal someone else's child?
This is an amazing story , shows you if someone in your family is missing never give up looking.
Wow...this is so sad! I hope the mother finds out who took her bio son, who raised him and other details before she passes away as well...she deserves this closure. I also hope her grandkids see her as well. ☹
They did. Lorraine who posed as the nurse. She is dead now
I remember hearing this story several years ago but never heard they found the real one. So sorry he passed away!
I sure do wish I was kidnapped could've probably saved me from my abusive family 🤷♀️
Stay strong hun. God bless.
DNA testing is revealing all shorts of skeletons in the proverbial closet.
It’s also helping to close many cold cases and unsolved mysteries.
I believe that Paul life would have been different if it was not for his abduction. I believe that his work might have contributed to his cancer.
If he lived with his true family he would have received more education.
I believe that it was Lorraine Fountain who abducted him. I wished we knew how she obtained a false birth certificate.
Bet you didnt need one back then, more babies born at home?
I'm pretty confident that it was Lorraine Fountain too
There has to be an investigation now on who Lorraine Fountain was. So much to think about.
I don't care if Lorraine Fountain is dead she still needs to be investigated! Did she work with other women who kidnapped babies from hospitals? Or was this abduction a once off thing!? Or did she regularly kidnap babies for other families!? Are other kids missing!?
You would think. It’s too bad she died so soon. I think regardless that Kevin loved her and wanted to protect her and appears his kids feel the same, she committed a crime (potentially) and the poor biological parents and everyone else suffered. But due to lack of evidence (time,possibly no witnesses wanting to step forward, forgot or died) law enforcement not wanting to put money into solving. I’m wondering how close the kidnapper looked to the sketch drawings and description. And if the kidnapper kept any paperwork, newspaper articles about the kidnapping etc? Who did the kidnapper name as the father on the birth certificate and what does that person remember! I’m glad they have paternity testing now.
@@ritaturner9906 I always feel deeply saddened when I think of this story. Kevin died, the woman who raised him died, was there a father figure in his life? He must have grown up with some siblings - - if they're alive they're not talking, Kevin's children aren't talking. Perhaps the Baty children have asked everyone to stop investigating. I have not seen even a high school picture from a yearbook of Kevin. Is Mrs. Froncziak still alive as of now? She's not talking about her conversations with Kevin during that last year. She is a very private person and wants everything to remain private. Everyone has a right to privacy but I sure do want to know the details of how it all happened.
What a story!
Incredible how much he looked like his baby picture!
Horrible people abducting someone else's child.
Did they ever find the other Paul's parents ?
Yes, but they are dead. They were bad parents.
Yes he was abandoned and I believe his twin sister was never found.
Gilbert and Marie Rosenthal, now dead. Bad people who likely killed the little girl.
Richard Pankey That's horrible. From NJ?
@@samanthab1923 I think they were from Tennessee but abandoned the boy in New Jersey.
Anyone else confused as to why the original newspaper article spelled "kidnaper" with one p?
Wow! At the very least the mom was able to connect w/ her real son!
It’s a blessing he was able to talk to his mom before he died. Have a blessed day.
So sad. 😔 Whoever did this was absolutely evil.
What a good movie material 😢
So heartbreaking what they have all been through.
I need this to be a Netflix series.
theres a documentary about it all on discovery+ called 'the lost boys' i believe.
Such a horrible and evil thing to do to a family.
Silver lining: That mother now has brand new grand kids.
What an awesome guy to have brought that all together
Ohh my gosh that poor woman. Lost her first baby, had her second baby stolen from her arms, then has the wrong child returned to her, probably questions if this is really her child everyday for so long, then finds out it’s NOT her child, so she’s feeling the heart braking realization that you don’t know where your baby is still, and have to deal with the pain of losing that familial connection of the child she raised and still loved, loses her husband, then finds her baby boy after all this time, and I’m sure that really hurt knowing her husband couldn’t meet him, then has to lose him and grieve him all over again. 😭😭😭
Sadly my grandma had a similar but also very different story. She too had a stillbirth but she had 9 children in all, my Uncle told the family he had Mesothelioma and had won a lawsuit and was going to sail off in a boat and just fall over the edge when it got too bad and they would never hear from him again... my grandmother went 25+ years not knowing if her child was dead or alive, where his body was, if he was happy when he died, if he was scared, in pain. She wished him happy birthday by yelling into the sky every year. Then my grandfather got Alzheimer’s and she watched her soul mate whither away in front of her. He passed and a few years later, a woman showed up claiming to be my uncles ex wife and said she was tired of taking care of him and that he was in a nursing home and he was basically their problem now. My uncle was very much alive but he had many health problems and very bad dementia and most of it was caused by heavy drug use, drinking, and a life of PARTYING! So my grandmother being a mom took care of him and had to watch the child she had grieved for 25+ years wither and die in front of her the way she had just watched her soul mate pass away.
:-(
I wish mother and son could’ve seen each other in person. So unbelievably sad
What made his kids think he was the abducted baby?
They (The Fronczaks) raised him to be a loving and kind man.. They did a wonderful job.
My god, that's amazing. And tragic.
That Man is definitely the kidnapped Baby
Wow fascinating Case!!!!!!
The cruelty of taking a baby,not caring about the grief of that baby’s family, not caring that the mother will never know what happened to her child, is pure evil. You cannot truly care about the baby either, because you have robbed him of his true identity. A lifetime of pain for everyone.
I glad both him and his mother found each other even though was a short time
You could not make this story up. I never thought the real Paul could still be alive.
Oh, such a nightmare! The poor family, I cannot imagine what the mother, the parents, went thru. A stolen infant! My God!
I remember seeing reports of this case through out the years.
Thank goodness Mr. Baby was able to talk to his biological mother before he passed. Withing Jack success on his quest.
Very sad for the biological mom and dad. Sad for the baby and equally heart breaking for the man.. Who took the initiative of finding everyone's true identity
God bless
Just wow 😦
The worst Dream “l ever had as a kid” that Stick’s out in my Mind
l had been kidnapped and raised by someone Else. felt really sad that l had missed out on a life with my Mother and felt frustrated that we couldn’t be together but when l finally “got free and got to See Her “ after many year’s...she was very old and sate in a wheelchair, l took her hand gently, lovingly “it’s me” l told her
she “didn’t know “who l was” she was “senile”
When l woke Up
I cryed and wrapped my arm’s Around my Mom
English Garden - Interesting, sad, but glad it was only a dream.
It definitely makes you think. Anyone of us may not be who we believe we are.
This is terrifying, my paranoia when I get a child is gonna be sooo intense!
I think hospitals today have multiple security layers in the baby department to cut down significantly on this sort of thing.
Yes it’s a bit creepy
yeah, i was pretty triggered watching the 'lost boys' documentary about this case, having suffered a miscarriage 2 years ago and being 6 months pregnant right now.. i don't even want to imagine that.
This is sad, and what a story it wove. At the very least, the man was notified of his true identity at birth and was able to reach out with his biological mother in his last moments.
I think a positive of this is it allowed Paul(/Jack) to have a good childhood growing up. His birth parents seem to be absolute wrecks.
Luckiest & unluckiest Mom - non-bio son made it his mission to find her bio son. Talk about emotional rollercoaster
😟 I hope the best comes to you & your heart. Some one loved you , it's best than no one loving you at all .
Been there, much, much, sincerest love to U 💕
That is the saddest story... i would be so heartbroken
Thank you God for this small blessing for Mother and Son!"
My God...it's finally over. I had my baby in Chicago just two weeks before, and this event really felt very close to me. Then to find they hadn't gotten Paul back..and now this? WOW!
I wonder how Baty made it to his current family
Probably Kevin Batey didnt want to come forward because he was dissapointed to find out the "mother" who raised him and loved him was a kidnapper. May he RIP!
Happy they were reunited before passing.
The entire situation is heartbreaking. The FBI should not have convinced the couple that their kidnapped baby was Paul. So much heartache.
they verified it in every way they could with the technology available at the time. also the parents said they recognized him
So the real mother has genetic grandchildren and she hasnt met them? Her son talked to her but they never met??? Whats wrong with people?This Lorraine woman is given all sorts of consideration and she was a monster stealing somebody’s newborn baby and is actually being protected??? WTH????
Nice to know he lived.
I didn’t realize the mother that raised him was named Dora and his parents were Jewish. My wife just discovered through Ancestry her long lost aunt. In this case she was taken from the hospital in Havana, Cuba in the 1950’s my wife’s grandparents were shown a dead baby and told them had died. She was “Adopted” by a Jewish couple, her “adopted” mother’s name was Dora. She was raised as an Orthodox Jewish girl. Both of her “Adopted” Jewish parents died. My wife’s aunt reunited with her real mother which is 93 years old.
You did a great thing!!!
What a bizarre and sad story!