I couldn't agree more. I was never *that* scared of psychedelics until my huge mushroom dose. Psychedelics should definitely be treated with immense respect.
Recently smoked changa for the first time and on my first session I had the most beautiful and amazing experience ever. Afterwards I instantly knew that I needed to see more. So I did some yoga and workout and two hours later i'm sitting there with the bong with the bowl packed almost shaking, knowing that this trip will be far from beautiful. I went in with courage and faced an extremely dark journey. Today I am very thankful for this experience, It taught me so much, i'm fucking thankful for everything now :) As you were saying, trust your heart-mind guys and you will find true happiness.
Auto you should be nervous.. It's not all candy and rainbows and setting positive expectations can backfire.. But rather be positive in expectations than "lets get fucked up"
Truly the only danger of psychedelics is being completely deconditioned and becoming human again, obviously I'm speaking ironically when I say "danger." Obviously people who are enslaved by their cultural conditioning will consider someone crazy who has any kind of awakening, whether it's induced by psychedelics, meditation etc. when someone is able to deconstruct the boundaries of civilization and live beyond what they've been limited to, those who are still within those boundaries will call them crazy. And those who create those boundaries are the ones who made psychedelics illegal.
You're doing an immeasurably good thing tom, both for yourself and for your viewers. Allowing us, the viewer, on your trip of self discovery can only be a good thing for the both of us. Cheers mate, from one human to another.
I adamantly believe that meditation is the key to have mostly good psychedelic trips. Not only meditation immediately preceding and during the trip, but for years prior. I've had many, many trips...and the only bad one was when I tripped in public where there wasn't supposed to be anyone, and a random group of people came up from behind and stood 30 feet behind me, laughing and talking for an hour. I didn't know who they were or what they wanted or why of all places they sat behind me, so I naturally freaked out and it became a nearly PTSD inducing trip. Aside from that, trips have gotten dark, but in ways that were showing me my faults very bluntly and chastising me for finding clever ways to avoid and ignore my problems. They may have been dark, but the end result was positive and made me a better person. So....meditate, meditate, meditate, and do not trip anywhere where there is even a remote chance of your environment changing beyond your control, such as by people you don't know approaching you. Psychedelics should be feared in the same way Christians fear God.
I went on a very fast roller coaster for the first time in my life yesterday. No, roller coaster is not a slang term for a psychedelic trip, but I can use the experience I had with the coaster as a metaphor for psychedelics. I experienced the most worry and doubt while waiting in line and my ego would tell me things about my heart deformity like, "What if you have a heart attack? There are no paramedics." I was honestly super anxious and worried, but when I got on the ride and strapped myself in, I knew that there was no turning back. As it rose into the air to shoot off on the huge drop and to flip me backwards as was calm. The anxiousness went away because I knew that I would be OK. Long story short, it felt like a psychedelic trip. It was so fast I didn't know what had happened, but I was aware the whole time. I looked as if I had some form of Vietnam flashback at the end of the ride because of it happening so fast. 😆
Getting past that fear is all part of the learning and growth that comes with psychedelics, pushing yourself into something that is as mysterious and strange as psychedelics is a scary thought for some so getting past that and just trying them is kind of like the start of the massive journey and a key step in self improvement I reckon
I was wondering what was happening with my trips cause recently I haven't been going as deep with my trips, my first 3 or 4 trips were very deep and meaningful but my last few trips I was holding my ego like a fucking baby, I haven't been able to let go and actually learn. something. Thank you, keep the content coming
I really needed this video right now, thank you so so so much. I've once had a short"bad trip" on 50ug 1-P LSD because of stomache ache and I basically thought I'd die. Since then I am terrified of LSD, but I know that I have to overcome this shitty fear and let go.
If a stomach ache feels like death to u, if u decide to take psychadelics again and have an ego death experience. You would llaugh at ur previous experience.
If you realise your own impulses and bad habits the more you will be able to control them. Be aware of yourself throughout the day. If your stressed realise it. Try to calm yourself. Always be aware.
My only fear comes from an experience I had when I was younger with LSD. I watched a freind go into a complete psychotic episode and had to be hogtied and taken away to the hospital. It was real LSD as we all took the same thing, but it was rumored that while it was being laid on paper it had somehow been soaked on one corner by LSD. You could definitely see a slight stain on 3 of the corner hits. He took 2 of those and I took one. Everyone else took one that had no stain. I never tripped so hard in my life. Plus, having to watch him flip around screaming for hours was no fun. I still trip and I still love it, but even though that happened around 25 years ago it still enters my mind every single time I take any psychedelics.
Thank you dude. Really thank you. In a couple of weeks i'll take my first DMT Spice, and i start thinking the same stuff as you said. Also i am going through a delicate reconstructing my SELF after depression.. So all the kinds of shit goes in to my mind right now.
Hey Tom nice video! I'm really trying to find myself lately and I've been thinking about a lot of fucked up stuff and was down a lot lately. Do you know a reason why i havent been able to learn something out of a psychedelic experience, I'm really not sure ? Am I forcing it too hard? I'd appreciate it if you could give me some kind of oppinion.
Eyy, no worries man. Some times the things you learn in a trip aren't always so specific and it can take weeks to figure out. first now 5 weeks after my experience I found beneficial lessons from the trip that I can understand better that helpt me in my personal growth.
Yo it sounds like you may not have properly integrated your psychedelic drug experiences, Tom has a video on this, I suggest you check it out. There are also many more helpful videos on youtube about this. Alex Grey speaks very well about this issue. I hope you find peace my friend.
MrDoenerbrot I'd suggest you keep meditating/ thinking on this. Write things down, make lists, write down what you want and what you don't want. Write down things you want to do, things you won't tolerate from yourself, things in your life that need to change.. You have the power
I'm not afraid of psychedelics and going through a heroic trip, I've never done any psychedelics except for being a regular pot smoker, I am very very keen on going through hell and facing my deep dark self to become a better person, and I am not scared of going through it, I really intend to go through it, and I have a very philosophical mindset, what's wrong with me?
Nothing wrong with you, it was the same for me too when i was a beginner. But as someone else said above us "if you are not scared, you did not do enough". Now that i have gone trough a bunch of trips, including an insane mushroom trip im actually more scared of trips then i used to be.
A lot of people say things like "psychedelics aren't for everyone" and "you'll know when you're ready". How do you distinguish between the anxiety and resistance before a first trip versus being in a mental state that is inappropriate to be using psychedelics?
Thats a pretty hard question actually, but i would say you need to 1. Read/watch a bunch videos like this to at least have an idea of what to expect. 2. Have a trip sitter, take it in a safe, calm place at a time when you dont have anything to do. Thats about it. Yes, its very possible that you will still be nervous, the best you can do is to just dont think about it. You simply cannot make sure that your trip is gonna be happy and peaceful, but you dont have to. Thats not the point of a trip. Just let it happen. And yes, thats scary but thats a part of it. Accept it. If you do the 2 things i said above its realy unlikely that it will have a negative affect (long term wise) on you. Even if you get a full-on bad trip. You can learn a lot from those too. Also "you'll know when you're ready" is kind of an idealistic and misleading thing to say, in my experience its more like you "stumble upon" your first trip then being hit by a light, divine feeling that tells you are ready. Thats not realy how it works, so dont expect that to happen.
If you can calm yourself down without ignoring the reality of what the trip does to you you're probably fine. The key is to accept anything the trip shows you, processing the validity of knowledge gained from a trip isn't something you should worry about in the moment. Just let the ideas flow no matter how hard they might be; you can choose to accept or deny them once you're sober.
They’ll make you become a yoga instructor! Lmao that’s exactly what happened to me I’m about to do my YTT in Bali in a few months. Im such a stereotype
Earlier in the week I started my first attempt, with about a 3g dose of cubensis.. and oddly got basically nothing, which was rather disappointing.. Then near the end of the week, I tried again, with a 4.25g dose, this time I started getting nauseous, but still no open-eye visuals.. and I kinda got hung-up on my disappointment and nausea way more than I should have let it bother me, which I think might have been my ego resisting.. However this time there WAS something happening, because I did see some closed eye visuals.. just weak fractals I couldn't quite focus on.. So maybe the mushrooms are just weak, or I require a higher dose.. lol But my main fear now is the nausea/feeling of being ill, really hope I can find a way to overcome or get past that.
Hey Tom, I've had a few psychedelics trips before ranging from 2cb and acid to life changing trips on DMT. This summer I started developing a panic disorder from lack of sleep and being out partying too much and now I'm afraid that my anxiety may increase significantly if I have another psychedelic trip, should I be worried? I really want to trip again but I don't want my anxiety to get progressively worse.
personally I've never had any sort or developing of a disorder, but one psychedelic that might help you get into a positive mind set and help you move forward with your issues is taking pure MDMA that has been tested ( if you can get it) this may help you. Something else to remember is mind, body and soul are all connected as we know. when take care of all 3 of these essentials by working out, eating right and meditation it frees the mind and allows you to progress in "life". hopefully this helped
For me, all stimulating psychedelics cause me to have a huge headache especially in my forehead and at the very top, sorta feels like my head is an unshucked corn cob at the top that's been tied off and bruised in the forehead :(
I am terrified of having another mushroom trip ive had 3, only one was super intense and kinda scary.. Felt like i was going crazy and it would never end fuck man that shit is weird.. That was the last one i had over a year ago at this point wow..
My only fear arises from being called, texted, needed in any way during the trip. What if someone comes knocking at the door or something out of the blue hairs? Other than that I simply down them with no hesitation.
My first trip was 3 grams of some very week shrooms and I am taking 4 grams of some very powerful shrooms soon. I'm not scared of the trip but definitely very nervous of how I might react to what I see
Meditation and Nature and maybe experiment with lower level psychedelics first that can ease things out for you like MDMA or low-dose LSD/Microdosing before going onto higher doses or shrooms/DMT/Aya ect..
Man since i started making money from trading ive been really scared about being kidnapped and tortured by gangsters for a randsome. My last lsd trip i felt like i was having to fight my fear of it. It didnt get too intense as i was trying to keep my ego in check but honestly it didnt feel like it helped at all and maybe even made it worse because i was scared for hours. I didnt even do that much probably 125ug. Im scared that this will happen again on a bigger dose and on a bigger level. I feel like i still have so much to heal and really want to receive the benefits as i had done years ago when i could easily munch on 4 grams of dried shrooms and only be a little nervous beforehand. What do you guys think is this some kind of psychosis? How can i overcome this fear without getting psychosis and be scared shitless for hours
i want to try psychedelics because i heard they can help "curing" anxiety... but because i have anxiety, i am really scared of what can go bad. One of the things caused by this anxiety is the fear of everything that's not "normal", so the hallucinations can cause panic, and the fear of throwing up too, because every drug that i ever took got me a leat unconfortable, and the stress makes it even worse... and I think a panic attack on LSD is not the most pleasant experience! did someone already try here?
Mathilde Riabtchouk Don't use psychedelics when you're mentally unstable and NEVER ever combine psychedelics with other drugs. Combining could lead in serious anxiety causing a bad trip. If I were you I'd be really shy in dosage. Start with a level 1 low dose and have a tripsitter (a good friend) who can cheer you up when you tend to go bad.
I would suggest a small dose of shrooms for your first trip. Take 2 of your best friends and 0,75-1,5g of shrooms, roll 2 joints and just watch something nice like a Disney movie like pocahontas and listen to some music. Being afraid of what might come is completely normal but keep in mind to let everything happen what the shrooms want to show you. A trip only lasts for about 4 hours, so enjoy it I promise it is beautiful.
Merlin Greeenfies that’s actually a good idea On my first trip, I watch Disney descendants 2 and then spongebob. You notice every detail, they wear soo much make up in descendants 2 and then with sponge bob, every single thing was funny and I kept questioning why people watch it? But as far as anxiety, it kinda cures it. I have both depression and anxiety and they are almost gone, there will be times when it sometimes comes back, but it isn’t as strong as it used to be
where would the line be drawn in fear, and just straight illogical paranoia? would it for understanding purposes be easier to group them as one in the same?
So, what if i'm NOT afraid? Never tried psychedelics. I only had intense weed experiences and some crazy lucid dreaming. But it was very beneficial. They say that only fools aren't afraid. So, is it OK that my brain doesn't stop me from trying mushrooms, for example? And, yeah, i practice everyday meditation.
If you have done all the research on psychedelics, read a bunch of stories and experiences, i'd say you should be at least a little bit afraid. Because there are true risks (like having them trigger mental illness or you physically hurting yourself or someone else), but there are also other kinds of risks. I'll use LSD for an example... Say you're having a bad trip. Time means nothing. You measure the passage of time in thoughts... Which can loop for hours (it is rare though, but can happen). You can make yourself truly believe, with the entirety of your being that the moment or the situation you're in at the very moment (say, walking down a path (literally, like taking a walk through a park or something)) is the only thing that has ever existed, and ever will. That's the only reality you know of. You'll remember your name (if you didn't take a heroic dose) and maybe some general things, but you will feel the moment is your entire reality. And that can be amazing if the moment is positive. But what if you feel that two of your mates are conspiring against you... And that lasts an eternity. Also change. I've heard some people... have forgot what the real world looked like and thought that what they see now could go on forever and they'd never know. But they so badly wanted things to be back to as they were. But the line between reality and the trip could not be drawn. These are just some examples of bad experiences. Of course, you could have the most amazing experience you have ever or will ever have in your life. Still, I'd be at least a tiny bit afraid if I were going to take a psychedelic.
Yeah, i agree on that) I've heard a lot of stories. And as far as i figured out for myself, one should ALWAYS mind set & setting and have a lot of time for the experience to go smoothly from start to finish. Thanks for your reply) Best of all to you!
why is it wrong to not fear psychedelics is it really that scary? ive never done them because i could be prone to schizophrenia if i do not already have the problem
It would be great to have a conversation with you about my experience with physcodelic I'm Australian who wants to start promoting the use threw my music
I would say at the very least 21. And that's assuming you've done the foundation of self-inquiry and learned basic principles of ego and non-duality. Psychedelics are very emotionally draining and can rip your ego to absolute shreds, so it's handy to know the self-defense mechanisms the ego throws your way so you don't freak out too much.
Start off small (half-normal-dose), meditation and no expectations. The more you think and research and such and such the more thoughts will fill your mind and effect the experience. Most are amazing experiences its just that we tend to focus on the fears and so on because of our fear-driven society. When you feel great and in a awesome mindset go hard and enjoy the ride, its fun and life changing :) The deeper you go the more you will realize that only Love exists and that we are all one, there is no fear once you get to higher stages of consciousness :)
I've just started to looking into your videos ever since yesterday. And am very excited for every video you post as it provides for a learning experience. I am 19 and wanting to take magic mushrooms for depression,social anxiety disorder and general anxiety disorder. as well as letting go from certain things that are clinging onto me. So I don't have a trip setter however, but should I start from a gram in the right setting? thanks in advance!
well some people cant vibe with them at any age and here i am first full ego death trip at 15 and its been one of the most beneficial experiences of my life
I'm not afraid of psychedelics and going through a heroic trip, I've never done any psychedelics except for being a regular pot smoker, I am very very keen on going through hell and facing my deep dark self to become a better person, and I am not scared of going through it, I really intend to go through it, what's wrong with me?
"what's wrong with me?" Ego and I don't mean that in a bad way. I wouldn't say that's what's "wrong" with you but it's very easy to say or think that you want to go through a difficult psychedelic ass kicking if you've never experienced true ego loss and vulnerability. It's easy to think all that when your ego is still intact and you don't feel vulnerable. Things that don't seem like a big deal now can seem like the biggest deal when tripping. When we're not in that state we tend to overestimate how much we can really handle when in it.
Captain Deo Hmmm I've never heard of anyone having that kind of analysis of the human species and the planet while on just weed. Even LSD didn't do that for me, mushrooms however were much more about planetary destiny and the end of time and the future of the species etc. You can definitely trip quite well from cannabis but it's really really far from mushrooms in particular I'd say. Overall I'd say even LSD is closer to weed than weed is to mushrooms because mushrooms and DMT are actually something quite different from the "average" psychedelic. Mushrooms are just so incredibly alien and humorous and unexpected whereas LSD trips seem to be more centered around energies and vibrations/chakras and perception but mushrooms seem more like traveling and going to higher dimensions and bringing back knowledge from those higher dimensions to share with the rest of the tribe (humanity). What I'd do if I were you is go to the PsychonautWiki site and read the subjective effects for psilocin (mushrooms) and you can even read the subjective effects of cannabis and compare the two. There is no website out there that is as accurate or goes into as much detail as psychonautwiki, I really wish that site existed when I first got into psychs. Also there's a really good video here on TH-cam where philosopher Terence McKenna describes the general difference between LSD, DMT, mushrooms and ayahuasca so i would definitely watch that if I were you because he most definitely knows what he's talking about and I have never seen anyone explain psilocybin mushrooms as well as he did in that video.
I'm not afraid of psychedelics and going through a heroic trip, I've never done any psychedelics except for being a regular pot smoker, I am very very keen on going through hell and facing my deep dark self to become a better person, and I am not scared of going through it, I really intend to go through it, what's wrong with me?
I'm not afraid of psychedelics and going through a heroic trip, I've never done any psychedelics except for being a regular pot smoker, I am very very keen on going through hell and facing my deep dark self to become a better person, and I am not scared of going through it, I really intend to go through it, and I have a very philosophical mindset, what's wrong with me?
Well that's because you're being naive and don't understand what's coming haha. Just wait and see when you take your heroic dose for the first time. You won't be as confident or fearless the next time.
The Middle Way Don't just assume that, I know that I'm gonna be scared when I take heroic doses, I'm just not afraid of the fear I guess, that's the only way I can explain it.
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“Psychedelics don’t change who you are, they let you realize who you really are.” -Your Mate Tom
"if you are not scared, you did not do enough" - Terence Mckenna
I couldn't agree more. I was never *that* scared of psychedelics until my huge mushroom dose. Psychedelics should definitely be treated with immense respect.
Recently smoked changa for the first time and on my first session I had the most beautiful and amazing experience ever. Afterwards I instantly knew that I needed to see more. So I did some yoga and workout and two hours later i'm sitting there with the bong with the bowl packed almost shaking, knowing that this trip will be far from beautiful. I went in with courage and faced an extremely dark journey. Today I am very thankful for this experience, It taught me so much, i'm fucking thankful for everything now :) As you were saying, trust your heart-mind guys and you will find true happiness.
"I couldn't agree more. I was never that scared of psychedelics until my huge mushroom dose"
Its literarly the same for me :)
Uk he went crazy right ?🤣🤣
I am not scared of psychedelic experiences, I'm actually usually insanely excited for them because how much they teach me.
slight nervous before maybe but never not once to guide me to saying no
Auto you should be nervous.. It's not all candy and rainbows and setting positive expectations can backfire.. But rather be positive in expectations than "lets get fucked up"
Auto do 7 plus grams of psilocybin and trust me you will have panic attack but it will teach u amazing
Also panic is necessary
As master Yoda told Luke Skywalker when he said he was not afraid of the dark side, you will be, you will be
Truly the only danger of psychedelics is being completely deconditioned and becoming human again, obviously I'm speaking ironically when I say "danger." Obviously people who are enslaved by their cultural conditioning will consider someone crazy who has any kind of awakening, whether it's induced by psychedelics, meditation etc. when someone is able to deconstruct the boundaries of civilization and live beyond what they've been limited to, those who are still within those boundaries will call them crazy. And those who create those boundaries are the ones who made psychedelics illegal.
Love your comment!, So true
It takes balls to be as upfront about your "issues" as you are in your videos. I admire you for that. A sign of emotional intelligence. :D
I love the Cactus shirt !!!
You're doing an immeasurably good thing tom, both for yourself and for your viewers. Allowing us, the viewer, on your trip of self discovery can only be a good thing for the both of us. Cheers mate, from one human to another.
this is unbelievable synchronicity. I've been dealing with this about stepping up into the higher doses but am afraid to leggo.
I adamantly believe that meditation is the key to have mostly good psychedelic trips. Not only meditation immediately preceding and during the trip, but for years prior. I've had many, many trips...and the only bad one was when I tripped in public where there wasn't supposed to be anyone, and a random group of people came up from behind and stood 30 feet behind me, laughing and talking for an hour. I didn't know who they were or what they wanted or why of all places they sat behind me, so I naturally freaked out and it became a nearly PTSD inducing trip. Aside from that, trips have gotten dark, but in ways that were showing me my faults very bluntly and chastising me for finding clever ways to avoid and ignore my problems. They may have been dark, but the end result was positive and made me a better person. So....meditate, meditate, meditate, and do not trip anywhere where there is even a remote chance of your environment changing beyond your control, such as by people you don't know approaching you. Psychedelics should be feared in the same way Christians fear God.
Feel the fear and do it anyway
I fucking love listening to you talk man. So glad I found your channel.
I went on a very fast roller coaster for the first time in my life yesterday. No, roller coaster is not a slang term for a psychedelic trip, but I can use the experience I had with the coaster as a metaphor for psychedelics. I experienced the most worry and doubt while waiting in line and my ego would tell me things about my heart deformity like, "What if you have a heart attack? There are no paramedics." I was honestly super anxious and worried, but when I got on the ride and strapped myself in, I knew that there was no turning back. As it rose into the air to shoot off on the huge drop and to flip me backwards as was calm. The anxiousness went away because I knew that I would be OK. Long story short, it felt like a psychedelic trip. It was so fast I didn't know what had happened, but I was aware the whole time. I looked as if I had some form of Vietnam flashback at the end of the ride because of it happening so fast. 😆
On the part where it says, "as was calm," I meant to say, "I was calm. Sorry, typographical mistake.
Your brain is not designed to make you happen. It's a survival problem solve machine. good stuff. thanks for the video. I enjoy every video you post
Getting past that fear is all part of the learning and growth that comes with psychedelics, pushing yourself into something that is as mysterious and strange as psychedelics is a scary thought for some so getting past that and just trying them is kind of like the start of the massive journey and a key step in self improvement I reckon
Tom, I love this video and how you break down what the experience is like. Thank you.
LOVE THE CACTUS SHIRT
Really helpful mate, you've given me a better rounded perspective on these things
LOOOOVE THIS, thank you
You hit the spot I am scared of it turning me into a hippy, you calmed down my fear of it a bit now, it's all just in my mind
average TYT viewer Tyron mooselips what’s wrong with being a hippie?
Joris Pelder exactly, why would you be scared of becoming a hippie, if you do become one that’s because your a hippie deep down inside.
I had similar fears, but they mostly popped up because of my family and how they would be able to deal with such a big transformation
Fucking love this video, he explained The ego so well
I always get awful anxiety right before a trip
I was wondering what was happening with my trips cause recently I haven't been going as deep with my trips, my first 3 or 4 trips were very deep and meaningful but my last few trips I was holding my ego like a fucking baby, I haven't been able to let go and actually learn. something. Thank you, keep the content coming
Great video Tom, thanks for putting these out. Really helping me going with my own experiences. Keep it up! :)
I really needed this video right now, thank you so so so much. I've once had a short"bad trip" on 50ug 1-P LSD because of stomache ache and I basically thought I'd die. Since then I am terrified of LSD, but I know that I have to overcome this shitty fear and let go.
If a stomach ache feels like death to u, if u decide to take psychadelics again and have an ego death experience. You would llaugh at ur previous experience.
If your watching this video then your gut is telling you to trip
Too bad my dealer gave me fake ass shrooms, took 3.5 grams and nothing happened
Yes man but i dont know where to get a lsd or mushrums a never tried more than alcohol and weed
Goto a hippy music festival to find people who sale it.
fuck, i’m scared as fuck of psychedelics, i wanna stay me
Really awesome video!!!
Timing of this video was spooky.
Just been trying to push through my fears around psychedelics.
same
are you planning on tripping at all before your trip to Peru?
Good question... Tom?
I'm planning on having dmt before I go.
Awesome. Hope you have an amazing ride.
They still cause psychosis ( spiritual awakening) wich is really fucking scary
If you realise your own impulses and bad habits the more you will be able to control them. Be aware of yourself throughout the day. If your stressed realise it. Try to calm yourself. Always be aware.
My only fear comes from an experience I had when I was younger with LSD. I watched a freind go into a complete psychotic episode and had to be hogtied and taken away to the hospital. It was real LSD as we all took the same thing, but it was rumored that while it was being laid on paper it had somehow been soaked on one corner by LSD. You could definitely see a slight stain on 3 of the corner hits. He took 2 of those and I took one. Everyone else took one that had no stain. I never tripped so hard in my life. Plus, having to watch him flip around screaming for hours was no fun. I still trip and I still love it, but even though that happened around 25 years ago it still enters my mind every single time I take any psychedelics.
Thank you dude. Really thank you. In a couple of weeks i'll take my first DMT Spice, and i start thinking the same stuff as you said. Also i am going through a delicate reconstructing my SELF after depression.. So all the kinds of shit goes in to my mind right now.
Hahaha! its crazy but I really needed to hear this.
Just gotta overcome all the bad thoughts, I try to use my mind to make it more intense.
Having a hard time paying attention, you're so gorgeous!
Hey Tom nice video! I'm really trying to find myself lately and I've been thinking about a lot of fucked up stuff and was down a lot lately. Do you know a reason why i havent been able to learn something out of a psychedelic experience, I'm really not sure ? Am I forcing it too hard? I'd appreciate it if you could give me some kind of oppinion.
Eyy, no worries man. Some times the things you learn in a trip aren't always so specific and it can take weeks to figure out. first now 5 weeks after my experience I found beneficial lessons from the trip that I can understand better that helpt me in my personal growth.
Yo it sounds like you may not have properly integrated your psychedelic drug experiences, Tom has a video on this, I suggest you check it out. There are also many more helpful videos on youtube about this. Alex Grey speaks very well about this issue. I hope you find peace my friend.
I'm just constantly thinking about wether or not anything I'm doing with my life/in my life is right at all.. i have the urge to change something
MrDoenerbrot I'd suggest you keep meditating/ thinking on this. Write things down, make lists, write down what you want and what you don't want. Write down things you want to do, things you won't tolerate from yourself, things in your life that need to change.. You have the power
you and spysubstance best youtuber for psychadelic :P
im not scared of change, im scared of a bad trip. what do i do to completely not be afraid of it.
I'm not afraid of psychedelics and going through a heroic trip, I've never done any psychedelics except for being a regular pot smoker, I am very very keen on going through hell and facing my deep dark self to become a better person, and I am not scared of going through it, I really intend to go through it, and I have a very philosophical mindset, what's wrong with me?
let your fear out physically bro it will help alot go for a run or sum shit, your body wont feel anxious
Nothing wrong with you, it was the same for me too when i was a beginner. But as someone else said above us "if you are not scared, you did not do enough". Now that i have gone trough a bunch of trips, including an insane mushroom trip im actually more scared of trips then i used to be.
I haven't met no one like David yet... You still live in Denver
A lot of people say things like "psychedelics aren't for everyone" and "you'll know when you're ready". How do you distinguish between the anxiety and resistance before a first trip versus being in a mental state that is inappropriate to be using psychedelics?
Thats a pretty hard question actually, but i would say you need to
1. Read/watch a bunch videos like this to at least have an idea of what to expect.
2. Have a trip sitter, take it in a safe, calm place at a time when you dont have anything to do.
Thats about it. Yes, its very possible that you will still be nervous, the best you can do is to just dont think about it. You simply cannot make sure that your trip is gonna be happy and peaceful, but you dont have to. Thats not the point of a trip. Just let it happen. And yes, thats scary but thats a part of it. Accept it. If you do the 2 things i said above its realy unlikely that it will have a negative affect (long term wise) on you. Even if you get a full-on bad trip. You can learn a lot from those too.
Also "you'll know when you're ready" is kind of an idealistic and misleading thing to say, in my experience its more like you "stumble upon" your first trip then being hit by a light, divine feeling that tells you are ready. Thats not realy how it works, so dont expect that to happen.
If you can calm yourself down without ignoring the reality of what the trip does to you you're probably fine.
The key is to accept anything the trip shows you, processing the validity of knowledge gained from a trip isn't something you should worry about in the moment. Just let the ideas flow no matter how hard they might be; you can choose to accept or deny them once you're sober.
They’ll make you become a yoga instructor! Lmao that’s exactly what happened to me I’m about to do my YTT in Bali in a few months. Im such a stereotype
Earlier in the week I started my first attempt, with about a 3g dose of cubensis.. and oddly got basically nothing, which was rather disappointing.. Then near the end of the week, I tried again, with a 4.25g dose, this time I started getting nauseous, but still no open-eye visuals.. and I kinda got hung-up on my disappointment and nausea way more than I should have let it bother me, which I think might have been my ego resisting.. However this time there WAS something happening, because I did see some closed eye visuals.. just weak fractals I couldn't quite focus on.. So maybe the mushrooms are just weak, or I require a higher dose.. lol But my main fear now is the nausea/feeling of being ill, really hope I can find a way to overcome or get past that.
Hey Tom, I've had a few psychedelics trips before ranging from 2cb and acid to life changing trips on DMT. This summer I started developing a panic disorder from lack of sleep and being out partying too much and now I'm afraid that my anxiety may increase significantly if I have another psychedelic trip, should I be worried? I really want to trip again but I don't want my anxiety to get progressively worse.
personally I've never had any sort or developing of a disorder, but one psychedelic that might help you get into a positive mind set and help you move forward with your issues is taking pure MDMA that has been tested ( if you can get it) this may help you. Something else to remember is mind, body and soul are all connected as we know. when take care of all 3 of these essentials by working out, eating right and meditation it frees the mind and allows you to progress in "life". hopefully this helped
I love all your videos man I watched alot of them I'm new to the topic trying to be more open all around.how old are you?
I'm 24 :)
For me, all stimulating psychedelics cause me to have a huge headache especially in my forehead and at the very top, sorta feels like my head is an unshucked corn cob at the top that's been tied off and bruised in the forehead :(
I am terrified of having another mushroom trip ive had 3, only one was super intense and kinda scary.. Felt like i was going crazy and it would never end fuck man that shit is weird.. That was the last one i had over a year ago at this point wow..
I'm definitely also gonna get those mega doubts feelings after I click 'order - onions
My only fear arises from being called, texted, needed in any way during the trip. What if someone comes knocking at the door or something out of the blue hairs? Other than that I simply down them with no hesitation.
My first trip was 3 grams of some very week shrooms and I am taking 4 grams of some very powerful shrooms soon. I'm not scared of the trip but definitely very nervous of how I might react to what I see
I also have a great fear of going crazy due to psychedelic use, any tips on how to deal with these feelings?
Meditation and Nature and maybe experiment with lower level psychedelics first that can ease things out for you like MDMA or low-dose LSD/Microdosing before going onto higher doses or shrooms/DMT/Aya ect..
how do you train yourself to let go in general and to let go from your ego in particular?
Litteraly the first minute, I'm cured
I’m scared of having a psychotic episode lol
Hey bro, record a video on 5-meo-dmt..
I'm excited to try DMT one day but I'm also scared because of how crazy it'll be
You done it yet?
Man since i started making money from trading ive been really scared about being kidnapped and tortured by gangsters for a randsome. My last lsd trip i felt like i was having to fight my fear of it. It didnt get too intense as i was trying to keep my ego in check but honestly it didnt feel like it helped at all and maybe even made it worse because i was scared for hours. I didnt even do that much probably 125ug. Im scared that this will happen again on a bigger dose and on a bigger level. I feel like i still have so much to heal and really want to receive the benefits as i had done years ago when i could easily munch on 4 grams of dried shrooms and only be a little nervous beforehand. What do you guys think is this some kind of psychosis? How can i overcome this fear without getting psychosis and be scared shitless for hours
My ego doesn’t like psychedelics? I’ve never been scared to take a psychedelic that I know of, not even nervous on come ups.
Everyone is different.
i want to try psychedelics because i heard they can help "curing" anxiety... but because i have anxiety, i am really scared of what can go bad. One of the things caused by this anxiety is the fear of everything that's not "normal", so the hallucinations can cause panic, and the fear of throwing up too, because every drug that i ever took got me a leat unconfortable, and the stress makes it even worse... and I think a panic attack on LSD is not the most pleasant experience! did someone already try here?
Mathilde Riabtchouk If you want, try it and if it gets to be too much, take a Benzodiazepine and it'll help you shut it down and sleep. :)
never heard of it! what is benzodiazepine? :)
Mathilde Riabtchouk Don't use psychedelics when you're mentally unstable and NEVER ever combine psychedelics with other drugs. Combining could lead in serious anxiety causing a bad trip.
If I were you I'd be really shy in dosage. Start with a level 1 low dose and have a tripsitter (a good friend) who can cheer you up when you tend to go bad.
I would suggest a small dose of shrooms for your first trip. Take 2 of your best friends and 0,75-1,5g of shrooms, roll 2 joints and just watch something nice like a Disney movie like pocahontas and listen to some music. Being afraid of what might come is completely normal but keep in mind to let everything happen what the shrooms want to show you. A trip only lasts for about 4 hours, so enjoy it I promise it is beautiful.
Merlin Greeenfies that’s actually a good idea
On my first trip, I watch Disney descendants 2 and then spongebob. You notice every detail, they wear soo much make up in descendants 2 and then with sponge bob, every single thing was funny and I kept questioning why people watch it? But as far as anxiety, it kinda cures it. I have both depression and anxiety and they are almost gone, there will be times when it sometimes comes back, but it isn’t as strong as it used to be
where would the line be drawn in fear, and just straight illogical paranoia? would it for understanding purposes be easier to group them as one in the same?
So, what if i'm NOT afraid? Never tried psychedelics. I only had intense weed experiences and some crazy lucid dreaming. But it was very beneficial. They say that only fools aren't afraid. So, is it OK that my brain doesn't stop me from trying mushrooms, for example? And, yeah, i practice everyday meditation.
If you have done all the research on psychedelics, read a bunch of stories and experiences, i'd say you should be at least a little bit afraid. Because there are true risks (like having them trigger mental illness or you physically hurting yourself or someone else), but there are also other kinds of risks. I'll use LSD for an example... Say you're having a bad trip. Time means nothing. You measure the passage of time in thoughts... Which can loop for hours (it is rare though, but can happen). You can make yourself truly believe, with the entirety of your being that the moment or the situation you're in at the very moment (say, walking down a path (literally, like taking a walk through a park or something)) is the only thing that has ever existed, and ever will. That's the only reality you know of. You'll remember your name (if you didn't take a heroic dose) and maybe some general things, but you will feel the moment is your entire reality. And that can be amazing if the moment is positive. But what if you feel that two of your mates are conspiring against you... And that lasts an eternity. Also change. I've heard some people... have forgot what the real world looked like and thought that what they see now could go on forever and they'd never know. But they so badly wanted things to be back to as they were. But the line between reality and the trip could not be drawn.
These are just some examples of bad experiences. Of course, you could have the most amazing experience you have ever or will ever have in your life. Still, I'd be at least a tiny bit afraid if I were going to take a psychedelic.
Yeah, i agree on that) I've heard a lot of stories. And as far as i figured out for myself, one should ALWAYS mind set & setting and have a lot of time for the experience to go smoothly from start to finish. Thanks for your reply) Best of all to you!
HevyDev Definitely. But even a bad trip is worth it in my opinion.
Cheers!
why is it wrong to not fear psychedelics is it really that scary? ive never done them because i could be prone to schizophrenia if i do not already have the problem
Do you listen to alan watts?
It would be great to have a conversation with you about my experience with physcodelic I'm Australian who wants to start promoting the use threw my music
I only dont want to try them because i dont want to get hppd
How old would you recommend someone to be before they do Physchedelics?
old enough to be counted as an adult as in fully grown but everyone has to know that for themselves if they are ready or not in my opinion
I would say at the very least 21. And that's assuming you've done the foundation of self-inquiry and learned basic principles of ego and non-duality. Psychedelics are very emotionally draining and can rip your ego to absolute shreds, so it's handy to know the self-defense mechanisms the ego throws your way so you don't freak out too much.
Start off small (half-normal-dose), meditation and no expectations. The more you think and research and such and such the more thoughts will fill your mind and effect the experience. Most are amazing experiences its just that we tend to focus on the fears and so on because of our fear-driven society. When you feel great and in a awesome mindset go hard and enjoy the ride, its fun and life changing :) The deeper you go the more you will realize that only Love exists and that we are all one, there is no fear once you get to higher stages of consciousness :)
I've just started to looking into your videos ever since yesterday. And am very excited for every video you post as it provides for a learning experience. I am 19 and wanting to take magic mushrooms for depression,social anxiety disorder and general anxiety disorder. as well as letting go from certain things that are clinging onto me. So I don't have a trip setter however, but should I start from a gram in the right setting? thanks in advance!
well some people cant vibe with them at any age and here i am first full ego death trip at 15 and its been one of the most beneficial experiences of my life
I'm not afraid of psychedelics and going through a heroic trip, I've never done any psychedelics except for being a regular pot smoker, I am very very keen on going through hell and facing my deep dark self to become a better person, and I am not scared of going through it, I really intend to go through it, what's wrong with me?
could possibly be a masochist?
"what's wrong with me?"
Ego
and I don't mean that in a bad way. I wouldn't say that's what's "wrong" with you but it's very easy to say or think that you want to go through a difficult psychedelic ass kicking if you've never experienced true ego loss and vulnerability. It's easy to think all that when your ego is still intact and you don't feel vulnerable. Things that don't seem like a big deal now can seem like the biggest deal when tripping.
When we're not in that state we tend to overestimate how much we can really handle when in it.
Captain Deo Hmmm I've never heard of anyone having that kind of analysis of the human species and the planet while on just weed.
Even LSD didn't do that for me, mushrooms however were much more about planetary destiny and the end of time and the future of the species etc.
You can definitely trip quite well from cannabis but it's really really far from mushrooms in particular I'd say. Overall I'd say even LSD is closer to weed than weed is to mushrooms because mushrooms and DMT are actually something quite different from the "average" psychedelic. Mushrooms are just so incredibly alien and humorous and unexpected whereas LSD trips seem to be more centered around energies and vibrations/chakras and perception but mushrooms seem more like traveling and going to higher dimensions and bringing back knowledge from those higher dimensions to share with the rest of the tribe (humanity).
What I'd do if I were you is go to the PsychonautWiki site and read the subjective effects for psilocin (mushrooms) and you can even read the subjective effects of cannabis and compare the two. There is no website out there that is as accurate or goes into as much detail as psychonautwiki, I really wish that site existed when I first got into psychs.
Also there's a really good video here on TH-cam where philosopher Terence McKenna describes the general difference between LSD, DMT, mushrooms and ayahuasca so i would definitely watch that if I were you because he most definitely knows what he's talking about and I have never seen anyone explain psilocybin mushrooms as well as he did in that video.
Ryan Marshall Thanks man, and yes Terence is a hell of a hipster
(I'm not saying that as an offence, people call me hipster, even my stoner buddies)
Captain Deo lol
Can only 0.5 g of shrooms make someone crazy or it doesn’t matter on what doze someone please explain to me
Jimmy_192 nah 0.5 will only make you feel weird and nauseous
im tripping on acid rn by myself i aint scared of shit on acid man
shrooms and salvia are a different story lol and def dph hahahah
why you fear going crazy? in insane world, being normal is not sane state to be in, in my opinion
being crazy is normal state ;)
Tom, let's skype, i wanna have this psychosis stuff & drug discussion with ya :D
I'm not afraid of psychedelics and going through a heroic trip, I've never done any psychedelics except for being a regular pot smoker, I am very very keen on going through hell and facing my deep dark self to become a better person, and I am not scared of going through it, I really intend to go through it, what's wrong with me?
I'm not afraid of psychedelics and going through a heroic trip, I've never done any psychedelics except for being a regular pot smoker, I am very very keen on going through hell and facing my deep dark self to become a better person, and I am not scared of going through it, I really intend to go through it, and I have a very philosophical mindset, what's wrong with me?
Well that's because you're being naive and don't understand what's coming haha. Just wait and see when you take your heroic dose for the first time. You won't be as confident or fearless the next time.
The Middle Way Don't just assume that, I know that I'm gonna be scared when I take heroic doses, I'm just not afraid of the fear I guess, that's the only way I can explain it.