[Reverse:1999] Causal Loops and Cascades: The Storm Part 1 - Lore and Theory

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  • @Mask-re9re
    @Mask-re9re 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    I made my own Timeline and there are some differences, you can correct me if you think there is something wrong.
    1. Yes, the storm took time from 1999 to 1996, but I think it was a year after this storm, making it 1997. And from what I was told, the city of 1.8 was abandoned in 1998 and I think it would make more sense to be the year closer.
    2.1985 (3 years have passed since the storm and I don't know where the number 1987 comes from, shouldn't it be 1988?
    3.193?(Not confirmed but most likely year is 1939 WW2) = 2 years the storm does not appear so we are in 19?? RT=2006
    -19??(Not confirmed but most likely year is 1941 WW2)= 5 Storm the time becomes 1912 RT= 2006
    4. 1912= 1 year and then the storm does not appear so we are in 1913
    1913= 6 Storm = the time becomes 1966
    Something interesting that I noticed is that the storm left time on pause in 1913 and when it returned it continued in 1913 shortly after the new year, making 1914 and I think it will also happen in 1941, continuing the last years of the war
    5.1.6 is a little complicated because Pei City is a location immune to the storm, but we know for sure that when Yenisei joined at the end, in Vertin's team, a little more than a year had passed since that journey.
    The journey took place in October between (1722 -1916) It is not confirmed but the time is most likely 1912 or 1913, i.e. during number 4
    And 1.5 it is confirmed that the year is 1991

    • @apeironite
      @apeironite  21 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      honestly, I was having difficulty finding information for the early storms, so your list is probably more accurate. Im not sure where I pulled out 87, I was just going off of some older notes to help put this thing together, this really helps a ton, thanks a bunch!

    • @Mask-re9re
      @Mask-re9re 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@apeironite
      I saw the number 1987 on the wiki, in the description they say that 2 years have passed since 1985, but in the picture with the computer of 37 it shows 3 years, and they also say that the first storm in 1999 was the one with electric cables, that information is wrong, the second the storm was the one with electric cables.

    • @cordialkiana
      @cordialkiana 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      Thanks to 37'ss computer, most of the work was done for us:
      1st Storm (1999 -> 1996) [Original: 1999]
      2nd Storm (1996 -> 1985) [Original: 2000]
      3rd Storm (1987 -> 1977) [Original: 2003]
      4th Storm (1978 -> 1930s) [Original: 2004]
      5th Storm (~1930s -> 1912) [Original: 2006]
      6th Storm (1912 -> 1966) [Original: 2007]
      7th Storm (1966 -> 1929) [Original: 2007]
      8th Storm (1929 -> late 1913) [Original: 2007]
      The Current Year in Chapter 6: 1914 [2007]

    • @cordialkiana
      @cordialkiana 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Also, 1.8 takes place during 1996, though not the original 1996 obviously.

    • @Mask-re9re
      @Mask-re9re 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@cordialkiana
      1. The storm leaves time at least one year after it appears again.
      In 1929 Manus Vindictae began to speed up time, I think that a year has passed since 1996 and then 1997. It is not confirmed that the storm appeared in 1996 but it is confirmed that the first storm occurred in 1999 and making the time 1996
      2. From 2000 to 2003 there are 3 years, why is it 1987, where does that number come from?
      3,4. Is it confirmed that it is 193? but 2 years pass by being 19?? my theory is that the time is 1939 and 1941
      5. Time is changed to 1912 and a year passes, 1913 (From 2006 to 2007) and in chapter 6 they said that the storm appeared in 1913.

  • @goolhelm5807
    @goolhelm5807 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    Omg yesss! The most unique, and frankly confusing at times, aspect of Reverse is finally getting some much needed discussion.
    The fact that people surviving the reverse are unable to find their past selves still makes no sense to me. This either means it's not really "time travel" or there's something else going on that we have no clue about.
    Oh, and ghosts. Ch6 implied Isolde and Trista were able to see future dead people from ww1 despite it not even happening anymore. Does that mean ghosts are immune to the storm??
    Congrats on the growth btw! I am very excited for what you have to say for part 2.

    • @apeironite
      @apeironite  21 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Thank you! Not finding their past selves is actually a really big point Im going to hit in part 2, you have no idea how much I had to restrain myself from just ranting about it in this one lmao

  • @IDontHaveANameIForgor
    @IDontHaveANameIForgor 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Really nice video! Ive been enjoying your speculations and theories on the game so far! Looking forward to the next part!

    • @apeironite
      @apeironite  21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      thanks! Im glad you enjoyed!

  • @Axe064
    @Axe064 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    really liked this video... kinda wished both parts were one video tho tbh i can't wait for the next part😭

    • @apeironite
      @apeironite  21 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      honestly, same, but Im on a pretty janky laptop right now and editing anything on here is just kind of a pain. Editing a full half hour thing wouldve been super frustrating

    • @Axe064
      @Axe064 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@apeironite fair man, guess i'll just wait for the next part here o7

  • @rubywhistler869
    @rubywhistler869 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Just binged all your r99 videos, your analysis is my favorite type of content on the internet. Despite broken meta I love the lore and am so invested I could never drop it. I remember seeing the "infected" tab at the beginning and it kept worming in my brain the whole time I played the game what it meant. Also after I read X's UTTU interview bond section, I was 100% sure that man is a straight up serial killed and his anecdote made me feel so smart for noticing the obvious (although I expected his backstory, not him basically murdering a guy on screen then telling Vertin "lol what you gonna do about it"). In general my favorite unsolved lore has got to be Institutum Lorentz. Which storm did X predict again? I'm guessing it has something to do with his RNG (his theory reminds me of those videos where people figure out the seed and algorithm and you can time the clicks to get the shiny pokemon) theory where if you know the initial butterfly, you can basically predict randomness. Maybe 1999 was his initial butterfly? Considering Apeiron made a math model, there seems to be an algorithm and both X and 77 figured it out. During my initial lore run I remember a trail about how both St. Pavlov's and Manus were after Lorentz, and right after that you get Eagle, who is revealed in her bond to have been inducted by X into Lorentz after her father's death, but them two (and Regulus) are the only two members we know of. I desperately need more Lorentz lore, it's the most interesting faction for me because it's barely mentioned but will probably become very important later (the longer the chekhov's gun is unused, the more rounds it will shoot).

  • @that_s_tony_
    @that_s_tony_ 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    I like the video, just i think you are confusing things.
    Just for ppl, SPOILER ALERT :
    Kinda didn t understand why the storm should take to the future too, first, that s not what manus wants, if u explain it s because the events, i think that some events are just some flashbacks or have excuses to be in a certain timeline... Like the entire greenlake being simply a movie made by Blonnie being inspired by Zeno disappearances and a sort of way to explain how they Got Jessica in the past.
    I think there are 7 storms:
    The 1999 one, the first ( also i like the computer errors theory) ;
    The 1996 computer cables for veins ;
    The 1887 the geometric shapes;
    A storm untold in the 70s that took them to 1966, exactly one year after the rimet cup and where Regulus was searching for her way to broadcast rock music, finding the ship APPLE THE FIRST;
    the storm of the 60s with everything turning into a comic book;
    The 1929s one the ppl eating gold;
    And the current one in the 1914 of chapter 6.
    Also i think the title "Return to the future" of the CN title screen, u symbolize like a goal thats it s the goal everyone expecially Vertin wants, returning after the year 1999 that no one can go.
    Just my thoughts and theories that make more sense to me, no offense.

  • @polymer2
    @polymer2 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    [CN SPOILERS] after the storm in ch6 it is the 1990s in chapter 7 so ur correct abt 1.2 and 1.5 taking place in this year

  • @no-es4uv
    @no-es4uv 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    1990 is what year is after 1914

  • @echoingicyflames4903
    @echoingicyflames4903 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    So who's the strongest character in lore right now? And what others organization, factions, armies, muscle, private military, assassin's, elite army, friends, foe, friends with benefits, and enemies are also strong?