1930s Black Chicago: Southside Policy Kings

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  • @the1211experience
    @the1211experience ปีที่แล้ว +63

    There was so much pride among the community and respect for one another

    • @toshiojohnston3732
      @toshiojohnston3732 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Because they had a common enemy.

    • @rockfresh1993
      @rockfresh1993 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Still do ain't no had 😅​@@toshiojohnston3732

    • @Crazyshytfilms
      @Crazyshytfilms หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      And crack messed up everything

  • @mrcrookshank4820
    @mrcrookshank4820 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Wow this mini documentary is well put together, great information, and a good narrator,

  • @rj42074
    @rj42074 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I have a family member who was apart of the syndeicate 💯 and was cool with Flukie Stokes 💯!! I'm from Gary Indiana

  • @h.Freeman
    @h.Freeman ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Bruh...you should have a million subs... definitely a fan and will try and promote this channel.

  • @jeffreyyounger5772
    @jeffreyyounger5772 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I know,we had black gangsters,in the 20,30,40,50,and the 60's.,but we need to know their influence, politics, social, economic,wow!

    • @nicksaban88
      @nicksaban88 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Knowledge wisdom and understanding

    • @nathanielrichardson9817
      @nathanielrichardson9817 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      NAME ANOTHER CITY IN AMERIKKA THATS CLOSE TO THAT LEVEL, BESIDES NYC, AND THEY CANT COME CLOSE ✔️

  • @phillyguy2157
    @phillyguy2157 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    I'm from Philadelphia and lived in Chicago for 5 years. I lived on the North side and worked in downtown Chicago. You would never have thought of Chicago as a mob city if you didn't research Chicago's history. Downtown Chicago is conservative throughout. I found Philadelphia more culturally sociable than Chicago. The lakefront in Chicago is beautiful. But the thing about Chicago is that it's very Segregated.
    Again you would never think Chicago had such a thug history by the way parts of it looks today.

    • @smelltheglove2038
      @smelltheglove2038 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Conservative? It’s been a democrat stronghold for a century. I live in south Philly, just south of Oregon ave. I don’t understand what you mean by culturally sociable. It’s an extremely segregated city. The only real mixing is suburban drug addicts buying fentanyl in Kensington. Chicago is well known for being the most corrupt city in the country and it has been for a century now.

    • @renegaderunner332
      @renegaderunner332 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Why is Chicago so racially segregated?

    • @phillyguy2157
      @phillyguy2157 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@renegaderunner332
      I think it's a midwest thing.
      Chicago wanted to keep Black people in check. To keep them from progressing so that they couldn't establish the income to move into White neighborhoods.

    • @terucks
      @terucks ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Chicago is the southern North. Kats from New York Detroit and Philly call us “Country” lol

    • @alanwilliams1306
      @alanwilliams1306 ปีที่แล้ว

      Chicago is the racist city in America

  • @makejesusfamousministries
    @makejesusfamousministries ปีที่แล้ว +55

    After moving here and being here in Chicago west side. Chicago history especially black history is unmatched and underrated.
    1) Black Panther Party extended head quarters (I know BPP started in Oakland) on the west side building burned down because of the riots back in the day now it’s a Walgreens.
    2) Fred Hampton house is still up so you can see it from the outside where they murdered him.
    3) Martin Luther king jr house when he lived here for 2 years. It’s now turned into apartments on the west side is still up.
    4) Chicago was founded and started by a Haitian man Dusable small statue of him downtown Chicago but very disrespectful knowing that he founded Chicago he is placed in Chicago as a small figure compared to other statues.
    I can go on Chicago unmatched frfr. God bless y’all.

    • @illijah
      @illijah ปีที่แล้ว +4

      BPP was founded in Oakland

    • @chadtep7571
      @chadtep7571 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I would say NY and LA could compete. Countless big timers and history makers came from this cities as well and historical events. But Chicago is a mf.

    • @Monaedeezy
      @Monaedeezy ปีที่แล้ว +6

      4) Dusable did not find chicago, Chicago was already there. He was the first settler and trader that made an outpost amongst the native Americans. It’s speculative that he was Haitian or from St.Louis. I love Chicago. There is rich history all over.

    • @eugeneyoung5279
      @eugeneyoung5279 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@FINXLIT he clearly stated that fact sir.

    • @crystalriley9671
      @crystalriley9671 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Chicago was one of the last cities to become crack-infested due to the agreement amongst the gang leaders Jeff Ford ( EL RUKNS/BPN) and Larry Hoover( GDs). They agreed not to sell crack in the black community. Then the FBI / CIA took down the FORT( Jeff Ford) and then started on the GD's high-ranking generals. Within a few years, you could see the drugs starting to hit the streets and destroyed our community here.

  • @Gl6619
    @Gl6619 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    As someone who is very knowledgeable about Cosa Nostra and watches a ton of TH-cam mob channels…this a well produced and researched video…and it’s nice to see videos on little discussed black racketeers…subscribed

    • @edward1676
      @edward1676 ปีที่แล้ว

      EXACTLY. I DO AGREE WITH THAT..

  • @marcusleja7133
    @marcusleja7133 ปีที่แล้ว +112

    The history of Chicago is much more vicious than NYC, and that's not to downplay NY's own history.

    • @ccth22
      @ccth22 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      That’s definitely possible. I’m a NYC area kid who lived in Chicago for two years and I thought the history there was every bit as hardcore as anything in Harlem, Brownsville or Newark…

    • @phillyguy2157
      @phillyguy2157 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      I lived in Chicago for 5 years and it's not a rough looking city as New York City looks in a lot of it's parts. I lived in New York City for 7 years and it's a rough, tough city. I didn't find this in Chicago. But time can change a city. I think Chicago was much more of a thug city in the 1920s and 1930s. Historians say Al Capone had shootouts with other rival gangs on the North side of Chicago. I lived on the North side of Chicago and just couldn't imagine shootouts in that part of town which is very nice. But it happened and in that time era of the 1920s and 30s Chicago was tough back then.

    • @ronald8071
      @ronald8071 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not true

    • @williamshakespeare9815
      @williamshakespeare9815 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Its true. Even Lucky Luciano said hr didnt feeo safe in Chicago

    • @phillyguy2157
      @phillyguy2157 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      What people don't realize is that Chicago was different in the 1920s and 30s. It was a very violent city and mob wars were normal back then. Al Capone was asked by the current boss to come out to Chicago to help him. And when that boss got shot multiple times he said " that's it I'm done". And Al Capone inherited that family as the new boss and you know what AL did.

  • @martext123
    @martext123 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Joe Louis still ended up potless considering the connections and heights he reached

    • @trw4war322
      @trw4war322 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      True. Yet he had no one looking out for him on the business side of boxing just like a lot of music artists today. Business acumen makes all the difference.

    • @Jjstier
      @Jjstier ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My mother in law loved the number dream book s she hit enough to get a rep as
      A great numbers player

    • @NoRockinMansLand
      @NoRockinMansLand ปีที่แล้ว

      Still the GOAT

  • @reneerichburg8023
    @reneerichburg8023 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    NICE 👍👍👍 THANKS FOR THE INFO 👏✊

  • @albertgates7441
    @albertgates7441 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    THANK YOU FOR THIS IMPORTANT INFORMATION I WAS RAISED MOSTLY IN CHICAGO AND I DIDNT KNOW THIS SO MUCH TO LEARN ABOUT OUR RICH BLACK HISTORY THANK YOU AND TAKE CARE AND STAY SAFE AND STAY BLESSSED.😮🤔👍😇🙏✨️🤲❤️💯🙄.

  • @Gentlemen-bt3ru
    @Gentlemen-bt3ru ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Why can’t we be on the same shit now working together

    • @aaronmartin4600
      @aaronmartin4600 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bro you have to look deep within our government.they have a full department just to study ways to destroy people of color.every black person in America can't get but so far.the only black person now that is strong enough to stand up to the white train from hell is minister Louis Farrakhan . they destroy us through music.media.police is there to insure that we fail in every walk of life.even social.andfamily.who has scientists making drugs to kill us.that put cheap drugs like crack in black neighborhoods to disrupt families.they study ways to kill.and then making black think it's the black man doing it to cover his ass.

    • @internetgangsta4543
      @internetgangsta4543 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Rap music

    • @borngreat-4-life930
      @borngreat-4-life930 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We getting there. Rest assured..😂😂

    • @Anthony-to7cp
      @Anthony-to7cp ปีที่แล้ว

      Jealousy !

    • @Anthony-to7cp
      @Anthony-to7cp ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@borngreat-4-life930 What era is it going to happen?

  • @Gentlemen-bt3ru
    @Gentlemen-bt3ru ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I’m a new a subscriber this is very informative

  • @HUSTLER-AT-HEART
    @HUSTLER-AT-HEART ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love the info

  • @kylechristian7232
    @kylechristian7232 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That was Incredible Thank You for The History

  • @kbeard5130
    @kbeard5130 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video. Thank you💙

  • @Gentlemen-bt3ru
    @Gentlemen-bt3ru ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Where did we go wrong black Peoples see how we stuck together

    • @internetgangsta4543
      @internetgangsta4543 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Integration

    • @borngreat-4-life930
      @borngreat-4-life930 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Rest assured we going back there. We leaving Babylon USA soon. 😂😂

    • @armonshakur_VMGmultimediaEnt.
      @armonshakur_VMGmultimediaEnt. ปีที่แล้ว

      Even MORE SO that integration it was>>>>> FEMINISM! Black women are the MAIN culprits in regards to why were not unified as a people facts. How can you unify a community of people if you can't even unify the general Black family, household i.e BM, BW, blk children etc.
      When the Black HOUSEHOLD WAS DESTROYED via feminism, i.e the relationship between BM & BW we have NEVER been the same since facts. & that's the REAL REASON. Black women SOLD BM, & their BLK CHILDREN out for SLEFISH INDIVIDUALISTIC GAINS POLITICALLY.
      They are now EFFECTIVELY the ENEMY FROM WITHIN facts on God, & God spoke of this in the Bible in the "last of days"! You can't, & won't EVER galvanize a community when the WOMEN of said community is WORKING FOR THE ENEMIES & is more committed to serving the enemies principality whilst erroneously claiming her undying love, loyalty, & allegiance to BM, Blk children, i.e the blk community facts!
      When you truly BELIEVE THAT YOU ARE BETTER than ur own Men & children & are some how on a DIFFERENT LEVEL of perception than the community that spawned you, the nur in REAL TROUBLE!
      Just like the late great Godfather Kevin Samuels quoted & said that "NOTHING has done more damage in regards to the Black community & Black Men's/Black women's relation more so than FEMINISM. FEMINISM HAS DONE WHAT NOT INTEGRATION, JIM CROW, SLAVERY, SYSTEMIC OPPRESSION, CRACK EPIDEMIC etc all could NOT do all put together & that is TRICK Black women into believing that they are some how>> BETTER than their OWN people, i.e Men & children bkz they have a stupid DEGREE, & or are making 6 FIGURE salary's"!
      We as a people have SURVIVED ALL THE AFOREMENTIONED & some how found a way to STICK TOGETHER! But every since BW start following the FEMINISM IDIOLOGS the black community & It's Men & children have SUFFERED MORE DEVISTATION the CENTRAL element that has allowed us to survive through MUCH WORST MOVEMENTS & TIMES than FEMINISM at face value bkz those movements were TRUE DESIGNS intended on our complete & utter DESTRUCTION!
      But NONE of those movements have been as EFFECTIVE IN BREAKING UP THE LOVE< BOND, TRUST, & SUPORTING of one another such as that of FEMINISM! & it worked bkz it plays into AmeriKKKa Black women's VICTIMHOOD COMPLEX in which they thrive, breed, breath & live on facts! Telling them that THEY are the ULTIMATE VICTIMS & the cause of your OPPRESSION & POOR SOCIAL STANDINGS IS ALL DUE TO BLACK MEN!
      Not SLAVERY, NOT JIM CROW, NOT THE GOVERNMENT, NOT WHITE PEOPLE but BLACK MEN has caused ALL their oppressions & states of INDIGENCE< POVERTY! How about THAT for why we are no longer UNIFIED as a people??
      You can't unify a people when the WOMEN WANT, & BELIEVE THAT THEY ARE THEIR OWN COMMUNITY MINUS BLACK MEN! & bkz their are NO MEN TO LEAD THEM for apparent reason,????? that causes for the CHILDREN of current, present, & FUTURE to SUFFER greatly.
      BW think, & believe that THEY ARE TRULY BETTER LEADERS, STRONGER THAN BLK MEN, SMARTER THAN BM, more CAPABLE than BM etc.

    • @Anthony-to7cp
      @Anthony-to7cp ปีที่แล้ว

      @@borngreat-4-life930 Stop dreaming, we have mental problems when it comes to unity.

    • @quann06
      @quann06 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@internetgangsta4543
      Before integration there were no laws against murdering black people and they had rights in America. Look what happened to Black Wall Street and the entire city got away with it. Jim Crow was hell for Black people. Blacks had to constantly avoid driving through certain neighborhoods just to go somewhere. Churches were constantly burned down and the KKK created meyhem whenever they felt like making meyhem. You can go back to the time machine but I wouldn't. I'm from the South too. F that!

  • @elMaxx5
    @elMaxx5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Ex-so-lent content Harry!!! You brought the digga digging doo ! South side is magical to our sojourn in America.

  • @ishanmisra7472
    @ishanmisra7472 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    are there any related TV series available ?

  • @malcolmwhite6637
    @malcolmwhite6637 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    An interesting video!!

  • @helldog63
    @helldog63 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    And don't forget. Albert “Baby” Bell was their enforcer. Mentor of Iceberg Slim

  • @Imissyoulou
    @Imissyoulou ปีที่แล้ว +1

    From my understanding, the Jones Boys lived in Evanston, before moving to Chicago.

  • @chadtep7571
    @chadtep7571 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Colorism was in full effect.

  • @capstar633
    @capstar633 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Grandma Fanny ran a policy wheel!

    • @internetgangsta4543
      @internetgangsta4543 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How can we learn about her

    • @alvirties8677
      @alvirties8677 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      When we lived in Chicago i was about 7 yr/old I recall my family playing something of policy, I was to young to know about it, WOW

  • @MacTeezy
    @MacTeezy ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Mississippi Has Always Had A Big Influence On The Chi

    • @cynthiadaniel3276
      @cynthiadaniel3276 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      The train from Mississippi came to Chicago, access.

    • @MacTeezy
      @MacTeezy 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@cynthiadaniel3276 Facts

  • @luislaplume8261
    @luislaplume8261 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Us New Yorkers call those policies the numbers racket. And it was still in my old hometown of NYC in the 1970s when I began my work career.

  • @RonaldWilliams-qh7zc
    @RonaldWilliams-qh7zc ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is 🔥🔥👍💯💯💯💯

  • @gladysmorgan5653
    @gladysmorgan5653 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is a policy wheel like the Numbers game ?

    • @teenatchie1313
      @teenatchie1313 ปีที่แล้ว

      I know it's called the Illinois state lottery today

    • @dwayneglover914
      @dwayneglover914 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      THAT IS THE NUMBERS GAME .

  • @dwayneglover914
    @dwayneglover914 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Ed Jones started Policy out of a tailor shop his first runner was Teddy Roe Aka Tuff Teddy Ed was leader of the Policy syndicate who handle all policy matters they was the most profitable syndicate in America for about 14 years ...well Ed went 2 prison 4 ..18 months he get 2 running his mouth 2 Sam Giancanna a outfit member Aka Chicago Mafia about how mush money he got so when he got out he gave Sam 100 k what is a million dollars to day have Sam repay him the outfit kidnapped Sam after Ed was free he said fu#k this I'm 2 old 4 this shit so left everything 2 Teddy so Teddy was going work out a split with the Mafia but they wanted 48,% said 2 Teddy if you don't like it we can go 2 war ya ..C Live up 2 his name Tuff Teddy let's get it on bodies fell on both side Teddy was bombing homes my man was on bitch any way look up The Jones brothers on utube check out the video law goon 1 hell of a story enuff said

    • @139fulton
      @139fulton ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you for sharing

    • @stillirise7813
      @stillirise7813 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Jones Brothers let the mafia in ....teddy Roe spent the rest of his life getting them out.

    • @dwayneglover914
      @dwayneglover914 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@stillirise7813 Thanks 4 the reply U ..R..so right enuff said.

    • @Imissyoulou
      @Imissyoulou ปีที่แล้ว

      Read the book, "Kings, the History of Policy in Chicago" for a more indepth understanding of what went on.

    • @dwayneglover914
      @dwayneglover914 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Imissyoulou thank u 4 the reply
      I hope some day my man Teddy Roe AKA The Robin hood of the
      gangsters get a detailed movie made about him ..4 a black man
      especially in that day ,even 2 day 2 stand up 2 the outfit aka the Italian Mafia WTF....and this is a true story he really do deserve a movie

  • @michaelknowles4005
    @michaelknowles4005 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Chi town archives knowledge

  • @b.brewster3785
    @b.brewster3785 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    It's amazing how black Americans were thriving and successful when we voted Republican.

    • @Bravetreee
      @Bravetreee ปีที่แล้ว +1

      🎯🎯

    • @rasyay
      @rasyay ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The black democrtrats like the Jones brothers were better the repuilikkkans were tweeking

    • @rasyay
      @rasyay ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The parties switched black democrtas better like the Jones brothers

    • @aaronaverheart4567
      @aaronaverheart4567 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Now none of the parties have our backs. Just lies after lies

    • @remigal899
      @remigal899 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@aaronaverheart4567exactly!!!!!

  • @ronjones9128
    @ronjones9128 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Let that money flow

  • @VeronicaClayton-yi7sy
    @VeronicaClayton-yi7sy หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is a
    interesting black syndicate during this time that's something

  • @Gl6619
    @Gl6619 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    12:15 saying a record is unbreakable is cap, just like saying the Titanic was unsinkable

  • @mesimesi2313
    @mesimesi2313 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks

  • @ToyaMathis-z8k
    @ToyaMathis-z8k หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It's always about the money all democratic. Who was the crooks...re publicans?

  • @chaunceychappelle3265
    @chaunceychappelle3265 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A, this my first episode. After about ten minutes you all had me. Do it.

  • @smelltheglove2038
    @smelltheglove2038 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Explain to me why corner boys and modern “gangstas” are always snitching on each other.

  • @williamgatewood4584
    @williamgatewood4584 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Check out Nathan Thompson book about the Policy Kings it's very in depth

  • @alvirties8677
    @alvirties8677 ปีที่แล้ว

    Was this policy wheel legal,

  • @tah385
    @tah385 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Im about to read the book then I’ll be back to bother

  • @kincamell2
    @kincamell2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Heavy

  • @pauliedibbs9028
    @pauliedibbs9028 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Jones as in Quincy Jones!

  • @jamicub39
    @jamicub39 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    R.Kelly was supposed to have monetary issues it's hereditary. 😮

  • @TSA1D1
    @TSA1D1 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bronzeville ❤️‍🔥2:56

  • @brentbenton4434
    @brentbenton4434 ปีที่แล้ว

    @50cent @MartinScorsese need to hook up and do a tv series about this

  • @dadams19111
    @dadams19111 ปีที่แล้ว

    I remember hearing my grand father, uncle and dad talking about some of these places when I was a kid in the 1960's. Yeah, South side of Chicago!!! The Southside of Chicago was awesome until the mid1970 when the Black leaders sold out the community.

  • @Runitup84
    @Runitup84 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow cool

  • @TSA1D1
    @TSA1D1 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Them Jones's 0:32

  • @calvinnewborn8452
    @calvinnewborn8452 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    To bad he didn't pay his taxes

  • @ditrimetryscience
    @ditrimetryscience ปีที่แล้ว

    LOVE

  • @ThaSound
    @ThaSound ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The result of this segment is not inspiring us to build, why is the focus not on Black corporate innovators, who successfully moved our communities forward? Segments such as this feel asset-like!🤔

    • @ThaSound
      @ThaSound ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, good ole TH-cam algorithm o tosis! There is truth to what you say.

    • @ianwilson4483
      @ianwilson4483 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Because a lot black people back then didn’t have the option to be those things so they focused on “Policy”. Tell the real story.

  • @TheChosenOne161
    @TheChosenOne161 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    then Sam Giancana & The Outfits took it away from them

  • @dfrank4life
    @dfrank4life ปีที่แล้ว

    Windy City 🚬🤬!!

  • @trebryant366
    @trebryant366 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The induction of drugs where we went wrong

  • @keonnaland
    @keonnaland ปีที่แล้ว

  • @mackwilson8836
    @mackwilson8836 ปีที่แล้ว

    I doubt this had any affect on Texas no other state ps policys can affect Texas the Mobb made their own moves and blacks did what they wanted also

  • @FoxyBrown2.0
    @FoxyBrown2.0 ปีที่แล้ว

    😢😢

  • @justintrotter4186
    @justintrotter4186 ปีที่แล้ว

    #100Years #PlusPlusPlus #JesusSoEgregious

  • @rodgerpiercearchitect
    @rodgerpiercearchitect หลายเดือนก่อน

    ...who cares

  • @elmabrooks7417
    @elmabrooks7417 ปีที่แล้ว

    This hoodlum history is not acceptable to me. I don’t think children should be taught such non important history. We have a beautiful history, don’t mess it up with crime junk.

    • @ianwilson4483
      @ianwilson4483 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They weren’t hoodlums. “Policy” helped legitimate businesses survive. “Policy” was only illegal because it wasn’t taxed. Other than that, what was so bad about it? It’s not like they were selling narcotics.

  • @nicksaban88
    @nicksaban88 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Young wise black man from Southside Chicago my city influence the world

  • @TRUTHSETTERANIMALSRULE
    @TRUTHSETTERANIMALSRULE ปีที่แล้ว +1

    CHICAGO NEEDS TO BE WIPED OFF THE PLANET EARTH!!!!!

    • @teenatchie1313
      @teenatchie1313 ปีที่แล้ว

      No certain ethnic groups need to be wiped from Chicago & the planet earth