To add onto the story of the crowd shouting "No, you're a hamster" to Hoshi. People do that on fan phone calls with him too, like trying to trick him into saying "I'm a hamster" in Chinese. So he's started to expect it. And then at another concert, he said he's a tiger, fully expecting that the audience is going to say he's a hamster yet again. But the audience actually said he's a tiger back to him and he couldn't wrap his head around it. He thought they were still saying he's a hamster. It took him a while to realize an audience finally said he's a tiger for once.
57:44 the reason they only mention dino’s characters are because they tend to be reoccurring character. the other members characters aren’t really ever mentioned, but pi cheolin is always showing up in random things, including the BSS GDA performance where dino did a rap in character. plus dino just gets super into character that it’s admirable to see.
Love your reaction 🥰 just wanted to add, since the guide can't summarize so much due to lack of time. When they said Jun is a child at heart is actually really really true. He is one of the idols with the most fascinating life stories. He debuted at the age of 2 as an actor/model and became the financial support of his family, as the son of a single mother and a family without much money. Even small roles he played generated more profits than his mother's work (jun's piano, school cost, etc were paid with jun's work) so she quit and became Jun's manager since he liked acting so much but was hard for her to let him since she wanted to make sure he was safe and they spent time together. The thing is that Jun literally grew up playing many personalities and surrounded by cameras, that at one point he didn't even know who he really was. And as he grew up and began to interact using his own personality, many called him "weird" and "different" in a bad way, so he hid for a long time and was afraid to show who he really was for years (even after debuting with svt). When he was 12 he was already winning important awards in the movies/acting industry. He also discovered his love for martial arts and used to participate in wushu competitions, untill one day that he had an accident. He fought spinal tuberculosis and managed to recover but his dream of continuing in martial arts ended. He then was very focused in going to study acting in college. But then he was discovered by a pledis agent in a convinience store in China, and a new dream began in his life. He left his 15 years of career to start again in a different country and without knowing the language, It cost him a lot but after many years he is now confident to show himself and express freely like he never could before. That's why you're going to see the members of Seventeen being very supportive of Junnie and constantly giving him compliments so he can express himself however he wants. ❤ They all just love Jun so much.
regarding your backup dancer question: most backup dancers are either just as good or better than the singer for the most part, a huge part of the backup dancers (in korea at least) come from underground dancing/competitive dancing so they also mostly can dance in more diverse styles than an idol!
Hoshi is one of those people that is very creative and loud and socially exuberant - but not with people he doesn't know. He's pretty shy - he's a great PERFORMER, but personal social interaction with people he hasn't met before is a totally different thing. Watching Seventeen content you get a tooootally different image of him because he's with people he knows and is comfortable with so we see alllll the enthusiasm and everything.
Oh im so glad you guys seem to like dino. He's the cutest because he doesnt try to be. Actually, he didnt like being called cute for a long time either, but recently he stated that he liked it now, as long as we also take his serious side into consideration. He acts like a hyung most of the time because he is the oldest brother in his family, but has recently come to terms to let himself depend on the other members ❤ He's an amazing singer and rapper as well! Scoups picked dino's parts as the hardest to cover in seventeen's songs, despite how easy he makes them seem. and pi cheolin is BIG he recently appeared in an actual AWARD SHOW!!! dino's characters are the only ones that are recurring, and hes the only one that takes them most seriously. Theres a weverse magazine that talked about going seventeen cinematic universe where dino is the reason it all exists. his dad once mentioned that dino always did skits, even as a kid. thank you for the reaction!!!
A couple extra things I wish the guide would have added, especially since I'm an 8star! - You'll hear The8 called Myungho or Minghao a lot more than The8-- I think the majority of fans call him Minghao and the members usually call him Myungho. - A kinda cliche thing about Minghao, but IMO fairly important is that he's jokingly known as the savage member. He's really funny and sarcastic and very quick with a one-liner. He's also one of the quietest and loves reading. - Also kinda cliche, but important IMO is that Jun being both awkward and childish makes him very quirky. He has a very silly sense of humor and sometimes will just do something super bizarre out of nowhere and it's incredibly funny and endearing.
Just wanted to say that, y'alls talks are my favorite truly. It is like listening to a podcast to calm my nerves to be honest. Ps: The8 is my bias in the performance unit, vocal unit my bias is woozi, and my hiphop unit bias is wonwoo.
The thing about Hoshi is he is a performer and an entertainer. He takes his job very seriously, that's why he'll do crazy stuff to make their content fun. The way people talk about him behind the scenes, he seems pretty calm.
7:45 Re. Backup dancers skill levels - Great question! It's so funny you asked it right when watching this clip of Hoshi's "Spider" Dance Practice, because that exact topic was specifically pointed out and discussed by 2 actual dance professionals (Steezy Studio) reacting to that same video of Hoshi!!! They talked about how, despite his backup dancers all being really great and that they totally killed the routine, Hoshi was far and away the best dancer in the video, and that was something really rare for them to see. (*I mean he is the Performance Team Leader of arguably one of the, if not THEE, best performing dance groups in all of K-Pop, so.... 😉) > Dancers React to HOSHI 'Spider' - STEEZY [@steezystudio] 10:24 Kerry - I love watching professional's analyze things, too! 🤩 Especially dance, vocal, & even video editing analysis, etc., when it comes to Seventeen, because they point out so much stuff I never would have even seen or noticed on my own. Luckily, a lot of these Pro's have turned into Carats after watching Seventeen, so there's plenty of those videos for you to watch, if you are interested! 😘
One thing I wish the guide showed more of is Jun's quirkiness. His brain thinks outside the box. You saw in the previous part there was that hidden camera prank of S. Coups and the humans posing as mannequins. Well, they did that with every member. When it was Jun's turn, his reaction when the lights went off was to start singing Happy Birthday instead of being scared. Or when his task was to make a producer laugh by saying something funny, he tickled him instead. There's many situations like this with Jun.
-In Nana Tour when his mission was to put a member to sleep. He thought of Scoups who was not with them in Italy but sleeping in Korea because of the time difference. He put Scoups' picture to sleep and successfully completed his mission. -When others drew 13 members of Seventeen like 13 stick people, Jun instead draw 🧍X13 . He is very witty.
44:14 "Dino" is short for "Dinosaur," because they said that he has always been so powerful and dominant when he dances on stage, so they likened him to a T-Rex. 🦖 48:58 I was sooo proud of you, Simon!!! Great Job! 👍😄👍 57:10 YES!!! Proud of you again! 😉 You're doing so well! ☺️ Yes, that was Hoshi!!! 🤗 Although, obviously, they were in characters for a skit in that clip, with Dino as his now iconic character, "Pi Cheolin" (sometimes spelled "Fe Turin", but it is the same character), and Seungkwan as his younger brother! (Hahaha! NOT wife! 🤣 But, understandable mistake, I guess... 😂)
It’s really funny, and you literally won’t believe it until you see it, but when Hoshi isn’t “on”, he is actually surprisingly calm and quiet. I didn’t buy that he was an introvert either, but I have seen it.
Dino has an official solo song now- Wait. It wasn't released when the guide was updated, but its now one of my favourite seventeen solos, bias aside. the pfu as a whole is extremely passionate, you can see it in their solos. fun fact, some of the members picked pfu as the unit they least want to be in solely for the reason that they take everything so seriously its scary. hoshi runs it like the military
Something cute about Dino - when he was doing the MV for Wait *every* other member of SVT came at different times to support him. Usually other unit members or a couple of misc guys would go, but he's so loved (they adore their maknae) that they all came.
i honestly love your side stories and anecdotes, i think it's what makes the reaction videos more fun! glad youre doing the guide! honestly just take your time with all the names and the faces it will come eventually! as long as you enjoy the content i dont think it's a big problem. it will also come easier when you watch some variety shows. enjoy your carat journey!
Whole guide is already done!?!? I finished watching first 2 yesterday night and today I woke up and other two are already up YAYYYY!!! THANK YOU SO MUCH GUYS😂❤
14:30 Kerry: "He's mental!" - Well... Yeah... But, it does bear mention that he is a FULL-CHART GEMINI!!! ♊♊♊♊♊ A GEMINI STELLIUM, *5* TIMES OVER!!! Like, that is just bonkers friggin' WILD!!!!! 😳😲🤯 So, I think we should kinda just celebrate and be proud of him that he has somehow managed to remain, not only alive & healthy, but has not caused the destruction or downfall of any small nations (that we know of...), and has never even been on Interpol's most wanted list! WIN!!! 😄🤗🥳 14:58 Simon: "He is such a performer!" - Truer words have never been spoken!!! ☺️ That "Born to be a Star / Born to be on Stage" trope is just sooo glaringly evident to everybody who has ever seen him perform. People constantly talk about how he has that so called "IT-factor", because of his undeniable charismatic magnetism, and just overall electrifying presence on stage. 💥🐯💥 But, yes, his charms definitely do spill off the stage as well, including into Going Seventeen, and definitely as the all-time king of "Don't Lie" (Seventeen's version of the mafia game). 👑🐯 15:43 Hoshi's MBTI is INFP-T. (*The same since his original test in 2019, and last confirmed by him as of approx. mid-2023). And, he does actually in fact have noticeably "true" (or at least stereotypically true...) introvert moments (if you are on the lookout & specifically watch for them), especially when he's feeling very shy around people he does not know. But it is just very shocking to new viewers, because I think they are just so overwhelmed and blinded by the explosion of personality, energy, & excitement when he is in his "ON" mode, that they can't see him as anything else.
Look at their prolific discography as an opportunity to enjoy the creativity and wonderment that is SVT The last I checked there are 117 produced songs🤗I bet no one has reacted to ALL of them🤔 My favorite solo by The 8 is Hai Cheng. Please check it sometime. Dino has been dancing since he was a tot. Both his parents are dancers and his dad runs a dance academy. The song Zero(Hero) was written by Dino and performed as a gift to Carats when he graduated HS. In the first skit Seungwan is his brother--not wife.🤨Can you tell Dino is my first bias? Thanks for this reaction.❤❤
Hey! Former dancer here! Just a answering your question at 7:50: It depends! When we are performing for a non dancing artist and the objective is to highlight dancing, we tend to go all out! However when we are dancing with artists that have a specific vision and want to take part in the dancing, we have to adapt accordingly. Our job is to make our artists shine even more so that's why even the clothes we wear tend to be monochromatic and differ from our singer ❤ With that said, however, Hoshi and Dinko particularly could actually be professional dancers if that was their objective. And sorry if the english is subpar, brazilian carat here 😅
I love your reactions... but maybe you could tie his hands behind his back. 😂😂😂 I saw the look you gave when he paused in the middle of Hoshi's dance. It was priceless.
LOL!!! "Korean David Tennant." LOL!!! So, I can totally see Jun as the Doctor now, thank you very much for that. SOOO, Chinese David Tennant work for me.
I really love this documented Diamond journey of learning their names! I feel like I also achieved something when you successfully named them! Let's get it!!!!
The thing is Hoshi is actually really introverted with people he doesn’t know well. But like most introverts he found people he is comfortable with and who he can be crazy with. If you see him in a different setting, like when it’s not a variety show he is really shy and quiet.
I love how you started to name each member, including those not on the screen and you looked elated guessing them correctly! Great job! 😊👏 it's like aceing a spot quiz 🤭😆
Third comment Just learn The8 voice. He was my first to identify, with Vernon, because they have very distinctive voices. I can actually pick them out in a song.
n I think his vocal be underestimated a little bit,he's singing skills can still be improved,but its already well n he keeps practicing to ensure his parts souds good,he is also good at giving emotions to his works,I luv his low n high voices,I really enjoy listen to his songs n parts
Aww ... No Home or Super dance practice yet. I'll keep checking back! Thank you for this reaction also. As a Carat, I'm always excited to see others excited about Seventeen's talent 💎🌸❤🔥
An other thing about Hoshi is he is a Gemini. Like full on Gemini . His Sun. Moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars---all Gemini so makes sense why he has the introvert/extrovert duality
I know that there are a lot of nice and kind idols but I believe, Jun is the purest one. He is so precious. Really like a child but he can cover his true personality when he is performing, he became different people. Amazing.
32:53 LONG COMMENT SINCE THEY BOTH OF YOU LOOK A LITTLE LOST ABOUT YANAN ❤️ Jun and Yanan were together in a Chinese show (Minghao was also there) and they both decided to be a couple to make performances together. Jun wanted both of them to overcome themselves because they both had a lot of doubts about their abilities and low self-esteem, but unfortunately Yanan was going through an extremely difficult time regarding his mental health and other problems that occurred in his group. Jun became Yanan's support and helped him a lot to improve, although later Yanan had to go on hiatus but still continued to thank Jun for accompanying him. And after that they developed a really close and beautiful relationship that was greatly loved by Carat and Universe, as Yanan was truly in a very dark place and Jun put a lot of effort into helping him even at the cost of his own health. That whole era was very hard for both fandoms but it was also very wholesome to see them support each other in that way.
Pledis wanted (if I heard correctly) Hoshi to do the surgery to get double eyelids, but he refused. Since then he's paid for both his sister and mother to get that surgery. He also bought his childhood home that his dad had to give up. And he's donated a ton of money to the town his family lives in. For all the tiger silliness, still waters run deep with Hoshi.
Actually what surprise us as fans too the group is full of introvert. I think 8 of them are introvert based on their latest mbti test. Even the loudest member like DK and Hoshi, they are both introvert lol. But all them are still crazy (in a good way) and the most loudest group ever😂
Hi, i am back. Good reaction, ty. I am learning about Seventeen so finding this was fun. Though i have seen the full 3 hr long guide multiple times my memory is not great so i need to rewatch. Rock with U is my fav song from them. =0} I like Wonwoo. He cute. Was Hoshi bias because of Suchwita a drinking show on here from Suga of BTS. =0p Woozie was on it too. I am still pretty new fan. So lots to learn. Jeonghan biased now and Joshua wrecker. Jeonghan was a problem in Super and so was Joshua. 0.o Hoshi be wilden often. o.o I am bad with tech too, lol. I love that he agrees with Taemin's (maknae of Shinee) mentality. Aww, he a Shawol(Shinee's fandom). Cute. He adores Key (rapper from Shinee) well that explains a lot, lol. I like this groups dynamic too. Very interesting. Woozi has slowly impressed me more and more after Suchwita.They all so talented. I am taking notes. This was fun. Hugs. -NY USA 2019 Army💜 Very few mixed race individuals make it in Kpop the two most popular to do so are Vernon and Somi. @El-vq8tx said on 10/8/23 Vernon was bullied by other kids because he was mixed and he actually dropped out of middle school when he was accepted as a trainee. It’s very sad that he had to stop his education and couldn’t grow up like everyone else, he actually talks about it in the first performance clip in his section in the hiphop unit song “Trauma”. They all talk about their own struggles and his part is about how he had no friends and had to drop out of 8th grade. It seems that his younger sister attended an international school, so she didn’t experience the same prejudice. It’s just devastating that their family had to go through that experience and realize their children can’t mingle with the other kids safely bcs society “others” them. @just_meow1279 said on 6/15/22 Other facts about them: -SCOUPS is the youngest in the Choi family but the oldest in Seventeen. -Dino is the oldest in his family but the youngest in Seventeen. -Woozi is an only child in his family but he sits in the middle (7) so that makes him the middle of Seventeen. -Woozi has low tolerance in alcohol so he doesn't drink and he has a sort of allergy reaction (reddish skin) when he drinks alcohol -their ages form a diamond 95 95 95 96 96 96 96 97 97 97 98 98 99 -Hoshi once watched Dino perform and he said that Dino will be a good dancer and they ended up on the same group. -The8 saw the 17 project on tv and now he is one of the members💗 -their bestfriends with monsta x (carats and monbebes are married couple) @animals14life said on 6/15/22 ‘It’s insane they have so many talented people’ and when you know that only 3 of them actually auditioned, and that the other 10 were street casted/scouted???? Makes it even more insane istg 🤯 @El-vq8tx said on 8/5/32 Cute fact: S.coups is the oldest in SVT but the youngest in his family, Woozi is directly in the middle in SVT but is an only child in his own family, and Dino is the Maknae in SVT but the oldest in his family. It's a really cute dynamic because you get Coups who's a very affectionate and playful oldest member, Woozi who grew up alone being showered with love by having 6 people older than him and 6 people younger than him, and Dino who's a mature maknae and tends to be the emotional backbone for his members. @VaniACarat said on 8/5/32 💎An important/interesting fact: Universe Factory (우주공장) is the name of Woozi's & Bumzu's studio. Is a combination of both of their names, with the (우)지 from Woozi and the 범(주) from Bumzu 💖 Both are the main composers/producers of seventeen and they have their own personal studios under universe factory, Woozi's room (from Woozi) and Prism Filter (from Bumzu). Bumzu used to be Seventeen's singing teacher when they were trainees but they became close because there wasn't that much of an age difference. He was the one who taught Woozi how to produce professionally. And all of us carats love him so much ❤ He is known as the 14th member. + If at any time you review the lyrics of the songs, the 'seventeenlyrics' channel is the most recommended because it offers correct translations and detailed credits. @0becalp325 said on 89/30/23 Woozi solo song: Ruby (all in english) 11:33 Smile Flower 12:00 Hug 13:04 and 22:47 Falling for U 22:55 2 minus 1 36:30 DK cover of Yang Da Il 'she didn't love me' th-cam.com/video/v3UW6oTw_ks/w-d-xo.html&pp=ygUIZGsgY292ZXI%3D 37:27 Seventeen performing Tell Me on Immortal Songs 38:30 We gonna make it shine 2017 version 38:37 Kidult 49:47 idk the name of the song but that's the video th-cam.com/video/apcP6iaZUCk/w-d-xo.html&pp=ygUPc2V1bmdrd2FuIGRpbmdv 50:20 cover of an ost th-cam.com/video/vEcJ9Up32ag/w-d-xo.html&pp=ygUcc2V1bmt3YW5nIGJlYXV0aWZ1bCB0b21vcnJvdw%3D%3D for the other songs,i think they were written on the video while they were singing,like 'Don't Listen In Secret' @laurenstendel9111 said on 10/4/22 Fun fact about Jun as you were wondering about his dance background, he is actually the only member of the Performance Unit that didn't have any dance background coming into Pledis. However, he did wushu and kung fu (I'm pretty sure it was specifically those) since he was young, and some of the movements probably transferred over well. @lapillity said on 10/4/22 The show with all the Pepsi logos that showed up in jun and Minghao's parts is CYZJ! you can find the episodes on CYZJ subs TH-cam channel. honestly it's a show i recommend all carats watch, i think it was sort of a turning point/growth moment for both of them, but jun especially. there are sides of jun on that show that to this day i haven't seen in any of their contents, you really get to know him through the course of the show ;-;
JUN's solos: 1. Can you sit by my side (ballad) 2. Silent Boarding Gate (ballad, with beautiful beautiful MV) 3. Crow - life clip (ballad, a range of vocals that carry emotions well) 4. Limbo (2022) 5. Pyscho (2023)
Minghao's solo Side by Side is incredibly cute. Jun came to see him and sent a coffee/tea truck for him and the crew complete with pics of Minghao on the cup.
Hoshi is an introvert. He did his MBTI and got I and then his teammates did it for him, he still got I 🤣🤣🤣🤣 I also can't believe it, but he is an introvert.
Love your reactions! ^-^ About the whole introvert/extrovert debate.. those terms have nothign to do with how loud you are or anything like that but it's about if you get more energy from being alone (need alone time to recharge / being around people generally takes energy) vs getting energy from being with people. and both introverts and extroverts need alone time AND time with people to feel good/balanced but those terms are about tendencies. I am very much introverted but I also love spending time with my friends and when I am in a good mood I can be very extra and loud - that doesn't suddenly make me an extrovert. So the fact that most of Seventeen are introverts makes a lot of sense to me - I don't mind being with friends and being loud but at the end of the day I need some quiet and/or alone time to get my energy back.
So introverted people aren't always shy. They just get drained by being around people for too long. (As opposed tho extroverts who are energized by being around people) Because of this draining most introverts tend to try to conserve their energy by being less active in social settings. This creates the idea that all introverts are quiet or shy but that isn't the case. Especially when they are around people they feel comfortable with introverts can be batshit and Hoshi is the perfect example. When he is around SVT…batshit. When he is around other he is way more reserved for the most part
Performance team are so talented but don't worry they have one thing they're not good at. ball games. lmao i bet you're going to have so much fun watching Going Seventeen!
Two more things about Dino. He's one of the most responsible in the whole group and carried credit cards, money, etc throughout the NANA tour. Second thing - Pledis came to him predebut and asked if he wanted to be the maknae of SVT or the leader of a younger group. I think he made the right choice. Who knows when he would've debuted if he'd passed up SVT.
I was a Woozi girly.... until Dino literally stole me away, this dude besides being extremely talented at everything.... hes hilarious AND attractive?! So unfair smh- (still love woozi very much tho, I jump a lot between them)
Final comment Don't watch the Going Seventeen with Dino as Picheolin yet, instead watch the making of "God of Light Music" first ... You will enjoy him better. Then you can go back and watch the birth of Picheolin later.
I don't know if this helps, but being introverted or extroverted only concerns if you gain or lose energy from being around people, so you can easily be introverted and outgoing; you just need rest after. You can also be extroverted and quiet like Vernon is!
@alongfortheridereacts Yay! And I swear, if Jun's hair ever goes all timey-wimey, I'm blaming you, Simon! Yanan, the person Jun was comforting, is a member of Pentagon, another group you guys would love. In fact, I'm going to start thinking about who your biases might be in that group. In that episode of Going Seventeen, Seungkwan is playing Dino's younger brother. Just so you know, Dino's character, Pi CheoLin (aka "Featuring") is a WHOLE thing, and has bled over into real life. Dino has performing in character at a major music award show, unbeknownst to the rest of his members. My question is now, which am I, the one whose better-looking according to Kerry, or the one according to Simon?
Knowing how she loves Wonwoo, i understand why she finds Dino cute 😂😂. Wonwoo is the no.1 dino stan
To add onto the story of the crowd shouting "No, you're a hamster" to Hoshi. People do that on fan phone calls with him too, like trying to trick him into saying "I'm a hamster" in Chinese. So he's started to expect it. And then at another concert, he said he's a tiger, fully expecting that the audience is going to say he's a hamster yet again. But the audience actually said he's a tiger back to him and he couldn't wrap his head around it. He thought they were still saying he's a hamster. It took him a while to realize an audience finally said he's a tiger for once.
His face when he realized the crowd was on his side was so cute
2 days in a row? Yay!
Ps. The headband is so pretty kerry!
Thank you!!! K xxx
57:44 the reason they only mention dino’s characters are because they tend to be reoccurring character. the other members characters aren’t really ever mentioned, but pi cheolin is always showing up in random things, including the BSS GDA performance where dino did a rap in character.
plus dino just gets super into character that it’s admirable to see.
I love Pi Cheolin. I wish someone would translate his words in the BBS GDA performance.
Love your reaction 🥰 just wanted to add, since the guide can't summarize so much due to lack of time. When they said Jun is a child at heart is actually really really true. He is one of the idols with the most fascinating life stories. He debuted at the age of 2 as an actor/model and became the financial support of his family, as the son of a single mother and a family without much money. Even small roles he played generated more profits than his mother's work (jun's piano, school cost, etc were paid with jun's work) so she quit and became Jun's manager since he liked acting so much but was hard for her to let him since she wanted to make sure he was safe and they spent time together. The thing is that Jun literally grew up playing many personalities and surrounded by cameras, that at one point he didn't even know who he really was. And as he grew up and began to interact using his own personality, many called him "weird" and "different" in a bad way, so he hid for a long time and was afraid to show who he really was for years (even after debuting with svt). When he was 12 he was already winning important awards in the movies/acting industry. He also discovered his love for martial arts and used to participate in wushu competitions, untill one day that he had an accident. He fought spinal tuberculosis and managed to recover but his dream of continuing in martial arts ended. He then was very focused in going to study acting in college. But then he was discovered by a pledis agent in a convinience store in China, and a new dream began in his life. He left his 15 years of career to start again in a different country and without knowing the language, It cost him a lot but after many years he is now confident to show himself and express freely like he never could before. That's why you're going to see the members of Seventeen being very supportive of Junnie and constantly giving him compliments so he can express himself however he wants. ❤ They all just love Jun so much.
regarding your backup dancer question: most backup dancers are either just as good or better than the singer for the most part, a huge part of the backup dancers (in korea at least) come from underground dancing/competitive dancing so they also mostly can dance in more diverse styles than an idol!
57:36 seungkwan is not playing his wife but his younger brother 😭😭😭 fun fact Dino performed with Bss on golden disk awards as Picheolin 😭
oh my
Hoshi is one of those people that is very creative and loud and socially exuberant - but not with people he doesn't know. He's pretty shy - he's a great PERFORMER, but personal social interaction with people he hasn't met before is a totally different thing. Watching Seventeen content you get a tooootally different image of him because he's with people he knows and is comfortable with so we see alllll the enthusiasm and everything.
Oh im so glad you guys seem to like dino. He's the cutest because he doesnt try to be. Actually, he didnt like being called cute for a long time either, but recently he stated that he liked it now, as long as we also take his serious side into consideration. He acts like a hyung most of the time because he is the oldest brother in his family, but has recently come to terms to let himself depend on the other members ❤ He's an amazing singer and rapper as well! Scoups picked dino's parts as the hardest to cover in seventeen's songs, despite how easy he makes them seem. and pi cheolin is BIG he recently appeared in an actual AWARD SHOW!!! dino's characters are the only ones that are recurring, and hes the only one that takes them most seriously. Theres a weverse magazine that talked about going seventeen cinematic universe where dino is the reason it all exists. his dad once mentioned that dino always did skits, even as a kid. thank you for the reaction!!!
"Chinese David Tennant" I burst out laughing to that.
A couple extra things I wish the guide would have added, especially since I'm an 8star!
- You'll hear The8 called Myungho or Minghao a lot more than The8-- I think the majority of fans call him Minghao and the members usually call him Myungho.
- A kinda cliche thing about Minghao, but IMO fairly important is that he's jokingly known as the savage member. He's really funny and sarcastic and very quick with a one-liner. He's also one of the quietest and loves reading.
- Also kinda cliche, but important IMO is that Jun being both awkward and childish makes him very quirky. He has a very silly sense of humor and sometimes will just do something super bizarre out of nowhere and it's incredibly funny and endearing.
He also likes to mimic other members hand movements. Cute
😂Hoshi is introverted too
Just wanted to say that, y'alls talks are my favorite truly. It is like listening to a podcast to calm my nerves to be honest.
Ps: The8 is my bias in the performance unit, vocal unit my bias is woozi, and my hiphop unit bias is wonwoo.
I agree I love their talks.
PS Kerry Wonwoo is my bias also
24:09 I love it so much when Jun singing in Chinese!
The thing about Hoshi is he is a performer and an entertainer. He takes his job very seriously, that's why he'll do crazy stuff to make their content fun. The way people talk about him behind the scenes, he seems pretty calm.
7:45 Re. Backup dancers skill levels - Great question! It's so funny you asked it right when watching this clip of Hoshi's "Spider" Dance Practice, because that exact topic was specifically pointed out and discussed by 2 actual dance professionals (Steezy Studio) reacting to that same video of Hoshi!!! They talked about how, despite his backup dancers all being really great and that they totally killed the routine, Hoshi was far and away the best dancer in the video, and that was something really rare for them to see. (*I mean he is the Performance Team Leader of arguably one of the, if not THEE, best performing dance groups in all of K-Pop, so.... 😉)
> Dancers React to HOSHI 'Spider' - STEEZY [@steezystudio]
10:24 Kerry - I love watching professional's analyze things, too! 🤩 Especially dance, vocal, & even video editing analysis, etc., when it comes to Seventeen, because they point out so much stuff I never would have even seen or noticed on my own. Luckily, a lot of these Pro's have turned into Carats after watching Seventeen, so there's plenty of those videos for you to watch, if you are interested! 😘
One thing I wish the guide showed more of is Jun's quirkiness. His brain thinks outside the box. You saw in the previous part there was that hidden camera prank of S. Coups and the humans posing as mannequins. Well, they did that with every member. When it was Jun's turn, his reaction when the lights went off was to start singing Happy Birthday instead of being scared. Or when his task was to make a producer laugh by saying something funny, he tickled him instead. There's many situations like this with Jun.
-In Nana Tour when his mission was to put a member to sleep. He thought of Scoups who was not with them in Italy but sleeping in Korea because of the time difference. He put Scoups' picture to sleep and successfully completed his mission.
-When others drew 13 members of Seventeen like 13 stick people, Jun instead draw 🧍X13 . He is very witty.
I feel like except for his dance parts, the guide didn't do Jun much justice
Today's video is even longer! Yay!
44:14 "Dino" is short for "Dinosaur," because they said that he has always been so powerful and dominant when he dances on stage, so they likened him to a T-Rex. 🦖
48:58 I was sooo proud of you, Simon!!! Great Job! 👍😄👍
57:10 YES!!! Proud of you again! 😉 You're doing so well! ☺️ Yes, that was Hoshi!!! 🤗 Although, obviously, they were in characters for a skit in that clip, with Dino as his now iconic character, "Pi Cheolin" (sometimes spelled "Fe Turin", but it is the same character), and Seungkwan as his younger brother! (Hahaha! NOT wife! 🤣 But, understandable mistake, I guess... 😂)
The part in the Hot MV where Hoshi dances outside in the middle of the other members just leaves me in awe. How does a body move like that?
I'm liking and commenting before i even watch because i got so happy when i saw this. Carats getting spoiled two days in a row. ❤❤❤ Thank you.
several of minghao's paintings were recently displayed at the Saatchi Gallery in London!!!
It is so mind blowing that all of these talented people are in the SAME group. 😳
OMG the next part of the guide already! So exciting!
P.S. before I forget - Kerry is a 7 dancer on her own
Nailed it!
I Just finished pt2 😂❤ golden timing! Thank you!
Right?
You're welcome 😊
yesssss!!!! exactly.
same but yesterday.
It’s really funny, and you literally won’t believe it until you see it, but when Hoshi isn’t “on”, he is actually surprisingly calm and quiet. I didn’t buy that he was an introvert either, but I have seen it.
Dino has an official solo song now- Wait.
It wasn't released when the guide was updated, but its now one of my favourite seventeen solos, bias aside. the pfu as a whole is extremely passionate, you can see it in their solos. fun fact, some of the members picked pfu as the unit they least want to be in solely for the reason that they take everything so seriously its scary. hoshi runs it like the military
This is the actual highlight of my day thank you
Aww thank you! Your comment was the highlight of ours ❤️
Kerry you look so cute !! Also you guys are spoiling us so much with these videos back to back i love it ❤❤
Me? Aww thank you 😊 k xx
Check out Jun's solo works, starting with Psycho and then Limbo. Look at the lyrics and the MV and you'll get a good idea of what Jun is really about.
super excited for the Vocal Unit :) be ready to get serenaded to Heaven
Something cute about Dino - when he was doing the MV for Wait *every* other member of SVT came at different times to support him. Usually other unit members or a couple of misc guys would go, but he's so loved (they adore their maknae) that they all came.
i honestly love your side stories and anecdotes, i think it's what makes the reaction videos more fun!
glad youre doing the guide! honestly just take your time with all the names and the faces it will come eventually! as long as you enjoy the content i dont think it's a big problem. it will also come easier when you watch some variety shows. enjoy your carat journey!
Whole guide is already done!?!? I finished watching first 2 yesterday night and today I woke up and other two are already up YAYYYY!!! THANK YOU SO MUCH GUYS😂❤
14:30 Kerry: "He's mental!" - Well... Yeah... But, it does bear mention that he is a FULL-CHART GEMINI!!! ♊♊♊♊♊ A GEMINI STELLIUM, *5* TIMES OVER!!! Like, that is just bonkers friggin' WILD!!!!! 😳😲🤯 So, I think we should kinda just celebrate and be proud of him that he has somehow managed to remain, not only alive & healthy, but has not caused the destruction or downfall of any small nations (that we know of...), and has never even been on Interpol's most wanted list! WIN!!! 😄🤗🥳
14:58 Simon: "He is such a performer!" - Truer words have never been spoken!!! ☺️ That "Born to be a Star / Born to be on Stage" trope is just sooo glaringly evident to everybody who has ever seen him perform. People constantly talk about how he has that so called "IT-factor", because of his undeniable charismatic magnetism, and just overall electrifying presence on stage. 💥🐯💥 But, yes, his charms definitely do spill off the stage as well, including into Going Seventeen, and definitely as the all-time king of "Don't Lie" (Seventeen's version of the mafia game). 👑🐯
15:43 Hoshi's MBTI is INFP-T. (*The same since his original test in 2019, and last confirmed by him as of approx. mid-2023). And, he does actually in fact have noticeably "true" (or at least stereotypically true...) introvert moments (if you are on the lookout & specifically watch for them), especially when he's feeling very shy around people he does not know. But it is just very shocking to new viewers, because I think they are just so overwhelmed and blinded by the explosion of personality, energy, & excitement when he is in his "ON" mode, that they can't see him as anything else.
OMG, the whole first part of this comment 🤣😅😢
@@tea_jayyFacts though, right??? 😜
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@@Sugas_Girr oh absolutely!
@@tea_jayy😘
17:22 fun fact but this meme reached epik high (a really famous senior group) and hoshi released a song with them 😭
Haha. Love that!
Look at their prolific discography as an opportunity to enjoy the creativity and wonderment that is SVT The last I checked there are 117 produced songs🤗I bet no one has reacted to ALL of them🤔
My favorite solo by The 8 is Hai Cheng. Please check it sometime. Dino has been dancing since he was a tot. Both his parents are dancers and his dad runs a dance academy. The song Zero(Hero) was written by Dino and performed as a gift to Carats when he graduated HS. In the first skit Seungwan is his brother--not wife.🤨Can you tell Dino is my first bias? Thanks for this reaction.❤❤
Hey! Former dancer here! Just a answering your question at 7:50: It depends! When we are performing for a non dancing artist and the objective is to highlight dancing, we tend to go all out! However when we are dancing with artists that have a specific vision and want to take part in the dancing, we have to adapt accordingly. Our job is to make our artists shine even more so that's why even the clothes we wear tend to be monochromatic and differ from our singer ❤
With that said, however, Hoshi and Dinko particularly could actually be professional dancers if that was their objective.
And sorry if the english is subpar, brazilian carat here 😅
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I love your reactions... but maybe you could tie his hands behind his back. 😂😂😂 I saw the look you gave when he paused in the middle of Hoshi's dance. It was priceless.
LOL!!! "Korean David Tennant." LOL!!! So, I can totally see Jun as the Doctor now, thank you very much for that. SOOO, Chinese David Tennant work for me.
You all never fail to make me smile. I am enjoying the guides very much.
I really love this documented Diamond journey of learning their names! I feel like I also achieved something when you successfully named them! Let's get it!!!!
More seventeen please. I love your reaction on them and I love them! ❤
The8 might have the biggest duality. He can be a total baby or completely cool/savage.
yes hoshi is actually an introvert 😂😂
Yep. As you can clearly see from all of the entirely contradictory evidence!! LMAO
@@alongfortheridereacts 😭😭😭
snorts lol @@alongfortheridereacts
Applause applause! Simon improved so much today on identifying them!
Thank you!! I'll have it mastered soon
The thing is Hoshi is actually really introverted with people he doesn’t know well. But like most introverts he found people he is comfortable with and who he can be crazy with. If you see him in a different setting, like when it’s not a variety show he is really shy and quiet.
Thank you 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
I love how you started to name each member, including those not on the screen and you looked elated guessing them correctly! Great job! 😊👏 it's like aceing a spot quiz 🤭😆
Thank you so much for the reaction 💖
Btw that pink/lilac color looks so beautiful on you 🤌✨
Oh my gosh, thank you! This is third compliment I've received today on my outfit!. I must look ok in todays videos, lol K xx
@@alongfortheridereacts yesss it looks amazing in you + the headband is lovely 🌸
OMG! Thank you, I really enjoyed your reactions, can't wait for the next part vocal tim ❤
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Just learn The8 voice. He was my first to identify, with Vernon, because they have very distinctive voices. I can actually pick them out in a song.
n I think his vocal be underestimated a little bit,he's singing skills can still be improved,but its already well n he keeps practicing to ensure his parts souds good,he is also good at giving emotions to his works,I luv his low n high voices,I really enjoy listen to his songs n parts
Thank you so much guys I can't wait for the vocal team reaction so excited ☺️
Aww ... No Home or Super dance practice yet. I'll keep checking back! Thank you for this reaction also. As a Carat, I'm always excited to see others excited about Seventeen's talent 💎🌸❤🔥
We have so much Seventeen to catch up on!! We do enjoy the dance practices though, so hopefully we can get to them soon 🙏
Thank you very much for the video Seventeen 💯💯🥳🥳🥳🥳
Subscribed at 3'' o clock in night yesterday after 2 guides. In for a binge watch again 😂❤
44:13 His stage name is an abbreviation of the word "Dinosaur" because he dominates the stage 🦖❤
I just got to 2nd part and here u are guys hahah loved it 💎🤌🥰
An other thing about Hoshi is he is a Gemini. Like full on Gemini . His Sun. Moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars---all Gemini so makes sense why he has the introvert/extrovert duality
I know that there are a lot of nice and kind idols but I believe, Jun is the purest one. He is so precious. Really like a child but he can cover his true personality when he is performing, he became different people. Amazing.
32:53 LONG COMMENT SINCE THEY BOTH OF YOU LOOK A LITTLE LOST ABOUT YANAN ❤️
Jun and Yanan were together in a Chinese show (Minghao was also there) and they both decided to be a couple to make performances together. Jun wanted both of them to overcome themselves because they both had a lot of doubts about their abilities and low self-esteem, but unfortunately Yanan was going through an extremely difficult time regarding his mental health and other problems that occurred in his group. Jun became Yanan's support and helped him a lot to improve, although later Yanan had to go on hiatus but still continued to thank Jun for accompanying him. And after that they developed a really close and beautiful relationship that was greatly loved by Carat and Universe, as Yanan was truly in a very dark place and Jun put a lot of effort into helping him even at the cost of his own health. That whole era was very hard for both fandoms but it was also very wholesome to see them support each other in that way.
I love you guys! you always make me laugh! Thank you for showing love to our SVT boys. they are so talented and deserve the world
Thank you!!
More video Seventeen please 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Pledis wanted (if I heard correctly) Hoshi to do the surgery to get double eyelids, but he refused. Since then he's paid for both his sister and mother to get that surgery. He also bought his childhood home that his dad had to give up. And he's donated a ton of money to the town his family lives in. For all the tiger silliness, still waters run deep with Hoshi.
I really love Hoshi 's Tiger
Actually what surprise us as fans too the group is full of introvert. I think 8 of them are introvert based on their latest mbti test. Even the loudest member like DK and Hoshi, they are both introvert lol. But all them are still crazy (in a good way) and the most loudest group ever😂
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🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I love Jun's solos too...
You should react to Psycho first though. I think he takes it to another level as a performer.
Hi, i am back. Good reaction, ty. I am learning about Seventeen so finding this was fun. Though i have seen the full 3 hr long guide multiple times my memory is not great so i need to rewatch. Rock with U is my fav song from them. =0} I like Wonwoo. He cute. Was Hoshi bias because of Suchwita a drinking show on here from Suga of BTS. =0p Woozie was on it too. I am still pretty new fan. So lots to learn. Jeonghan biased now and Joshua wrecker. Jeonghan was a problem in Super and so was Joshua. 0.o Hoshi be wilden often. o.o I am bad with tech too, lol. I love that he agrees with Taemin's (maknae of Shinee) mentality. Aww, he a Shawol(Shinee's fandom). Cute. He adores Key (rapper from Shinee) well that explains a lot, lol. I like this groups dynamic too. Very interesting. Woozi has slowly impressed me more and more after Suchwita.They all so talented. I am taking notes. This was fun. Hugs. -NY USA 2019 Army💜
Very few mixed race individuals make it in Kpop the two most popular to do so are Vernon and Somi.
@El-vq8tx said on 10/8/23
Vernon was bullied by other kids because he was mixed and he actually dropped out of middle school when he was accepted as a trainee. It’s very sad that he had to stop his education and couldn’t grow up like everyone else, he actually talks about it in the first performance clip in his section in the hiphop unit song “Trauma”. They all talk about their own struggles and his part is about how he had no friends and had to drop out of 8th grade.
It seems that his younger sister attended an international school, so she didn’t experience the same prejudice. It’s just devastating that their family had to go through that experience and realize their children can’t mingle with the other kids safely bcs society “others” them.
@just_meow1279 said on 6/15/22
Other facts about them:
-SCOUPS is the youngest in the Choi family but the oldest in Seventeen.
-Dino is the oldest in his family but the youngest in Seventeen.
-Woozi is an only child in his family but he sits in the middle (7) so that makes him the middle of Seventeen.
-Woozi has low tolerance in alcohol so he doesn't drink and he has a sort of allergy reaction (reddish skin) when he drinks alcohol
-their ages form a diamond
95 95 95
96 96 96 96
97 97 97
98 98
99
-Hoshi once watched Dino perform and he said that Dino will be a good dancer and they ended up on the same group.
-The8 saw the 17 project on tv and now he is one of the members💗
-their bestfriends with monsta x (carats and monbebes are married couple)
@animals14life said on 6/15/22
‘It’s insane they have so many talented people’ and when you know that only 3 of them actually auditioned, and that the other 10 were street casted/scouted???? Makes it even more insane istg 🤯
@El-vq8tx said on 8/5/32
Cute fact:
S.coups is the oldest in SVT but the youngest in his family, Woozi is directly in the middle in SVT but is an only child in his own family, and Dino is the Maknae in SVT but the oldest in his family.
It's a really cute dynamic because you get Coups who's a very affectionate and playful oldest member, Woozi who grew up alone being showered with love by having 6 people older than him and 6 people younger than him, and Dino who's a mature maknae and tends to be the emotional backbone for his members.
@VaniACarat said on 8/5/32
💎An important/interesting fact: Universe Factory (우주공장) is the name of Woozi's & Bumzu's studio. Is a combination of both of their names, with the (우)지 from Woozi and the 범(주) from Bumzu 💖 Both are the main composers/producers of seventeen and they have their own personal studios under universe factory, Woozi's room (from Woozi) and Prism Filter (from Bumzu).
Bumzu used to be Seventeen's singing teacher when they were trainees but they became close because there wasn't that much of an age difference. He was the one who taught Woozi how to produce professionally. And all of us carats love him so much ❤ He is known as the 14th member.
+ If at any time you review the lyrics of the songs, the 'seventeenlyrics' channel is the most recommended because it offers correct translations and detailed credits.
@0becalp325 said on 89/30/23
Woozi solo song: Ruby (all in english)
11:33 Smile Flower
12:00 Hug
13:04 and 22:47 Falling for U
22:55 2 minus 1
36:30 DK cover of Yang Da Il 'she didn't love me' th-cam.com/video/v3UW6oTw_ks/w-d-xo.html&pp=ygUIZGsgY292ZXI%3D
37:27 Seventeen performing Tell Me on Immortal Songs
38:30 We gonna make it shine 2017 version
38:37 Kidult
49:47 idk the name of the song but that's the video th-cam.com/video/apcP6iaZUCk/w-d-xo.html&pp=ygUPc2V1bmdrd2FuIGRpbmdv
50:20 cover of an ost th-cam.com/video/vEcJ9Up32ag/w-d-xo.html&pp=ygUcc2V1bmt3YW5nIGJlYXV0aWZ1bCB0b21vcnJvdw%3D%3D
for the other songs,i think they were written on the video while they were singing,like 'Don't Listen In Secret'
@laurenstendel9111 said on 10/4/22
Fun fact about Jun as you were wondering about his dance background, he is actually the only member of the Performance Unit that didn't have any dance background coming into Pledis. However, he did wushu and kung fu (I'm pretty sure it was specifically those) since he was young, and some of the movements probably transferred over well.
@lapillity said on 10/4/22
The show with all the Pepsi logos that showed up in jun and Minghao's parts is CYZJ! you can find the episodes on CYZJ subs TH-cam channel. honestly it's a show i recommend all carats watch, i think it was sort of a turning point/growth moment for both of them, but jun especially. there are sides of jun on that show that to this day i haven't seen in any of their contents, you really get to know him through the course of the show ;-;
You're detailed accurate info is super amazing! Wow! 😮
JUN's solos:
1. Can you sit by my side (ballad)
2. Silent Boarding Gate (ballad, with beautiful beautiful MV)
3. Crow - life clip (ballad, a range of vocals that carry emotions well)
4. Limbo (2022)
5. Pyscho (2023)
I can't wait to see the vocalits performance video Seventeen 💯💯💯
Minghao's solo Side by Side is incredibly cute. Jun came to see him and sent a coffee/tea truck for him and the crew complete with pics of Minghao on the cup.
Hoshi is an introvert. He did his MBTI and got I and then his teammates did it for him, he still got I 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I also can't believe it, but he is an introvert.
It's just Hoshi being the most extroverted introvert 😁
Love your reactions! ^-^
About the whole introvert/extrovert debate.. those terms have nothign to do with how loud you are or anything like that but it's about if you get more energy from being alone (need alone time to recharge / being around people generally takes energy) vs getting energy from being with people.
and both introverts and extroverts need alone time AND time with people to feel good/balanced but those terms are about tendencies.
I am very much introverted but I also love spending time with my friends and when I am in a good mood I can be very extra and loud - that doesn't suddenly make me an extrovert.
So the fact that most of Seventeen are introverts makes a lot of sense to me - I don't mind being with friends and being loud but at the end of the day I need some quiet and/or alone time to get my energy back.
So introverted people aren't always shy. They just get drained by being around people for too long. (As opposed tho extroverts who are energized by being around people) Because of this draining most introverts tend to try to conserve their energy by being less active in social settings. This creates the idea that all introverts are quiet or shy but that isn't the case. Especially when they are around people they feel comfortable with introverts can be batshit and Hoshi is the perfect example. When he is around SVT…batshit. When he is around other he is way more reserved for the most part
This
Performance team are so talented but don't worry they have one thing they're not good at. ball games. lmao i bet you're going to have so much fun watching Going Seventeen!
I do find that Going Seventeen helps ID members as well
Please check out Dino's solo "Wait"
Two more things about Dino. He's one of the most responsible in the whole group and carried credit cards, money, etc throughout the NANA tour. Second thing - Pledis came to him predebut and asked if he wanted to be the maknae of SVT or the leader of a younger group. I think he made the right choice. Who knows when he would've debuted if he'd passed up SVT.
Hoshi the loudest INTROVERT😂
David Tennant😭😭 Why i lowkey see it too now 😂
I was a Woozi girly.... until Dino literally stole me away, this dude besides being extremely talented at everything.... hes hilarious AND attractive?! So unfair smh- (still love woozi very much tho, I jump a lot between them)
14:36 you should react to dont lie 2 mafia game
btw Dino released a solo mixtape a bit ago i rlly reccomend it its great
Luv Hoshi ❤
omg... I'm diagnosed autistic and when I look at my parents I also go "never stood a chance did I?" 🤣
Can you please react to SEVENTEEN x Game Caterers after you finished the guide?
Final comment
Don't watch the Going Seventeen with Dino as Picheolin yet, instead watch the making of "God of Light Music" first ... You will enjoy him better. Then you can go back and watch the birth of Picheolin later.
JUN and THE8 They are Chinese . Like LAY ZHANG in the group EXO. He is chinese .
15:18 JAKSKAKSJAKAJAJJA
I don't know if this helps, but being introverted or extroverted only concerns if you gain or lose energy from being around people, so you can easily be introverted and outgoing; you just need rest after. You can also be extroverted and quiet like Vernon is!
There are 9 introverted people in seventeen
since kerry is a huge stay I just wanted to let her know that dino and changbin are really close friends !! Seungkwan and Leeknow are also friends 🩷
I knew about Dino and Binnie but not Lee Know and Seungkwan! That's amazing xx
ALSO! seungkwan wasn't playing dino''s wife.. he's just another 'old' guy in the village theyre at 😂
Reaction going seventeen dont lie please
haha I confused Joshua and Mingyu for the longest time too
I recommend you DPR IAN so i dance mv + don't go insane mv + limbo mv please 🙏🏻🙏🙏
Do I get points for being here less than a minute after you upload?
The "extroverts" are Josh, Jun, Mingyu, Seungkwan, Vernon & Dino.
You get 50 points!! Congratulations
@alongfortheridereacts Yay! And I swear, if Jun's hair ever goes all timey-wimey, I'm blaming you, Simon!
Yanan, the person Jun was comforting, is a member of Pentagon, another group you guys would love. In fact, I'm going to start thinking about who your biases might be in that group.
In that episode of Going Seventeen, Seungkwan is playing Dino's younger brother. Just so you know, Dino's character, Pi CheoLin (aka "Featuring") is a WHOLE thing, and has bled over into real life. Dino has performing in character at a major music award show, unbeknownst to the rest of his members.
My question is now, which am I, the one whose better-looking according to Kerry, or the one according to Simon?
There are times when we both agree... you look great today ❤️
@@alongfortheridereacts hahahahaha!!!! Diplomatic!
Please react going seventeen! I beg you guys plzzzz