Yeah, but he’s saying that none of those albums did it off-the-wall did or thriller or bad. I mean, I like those albums too, but they weren’t big huge sellers
Off the Wall put MJ on the map as a solo artist. Quincy produced it when folks doubt him. Q was seen as a Jazz producer up to that point. He had worked with Sinatra and Streisand previously. Lotta folks thought his style of production with mash with MJ's. "Off the Wall" was also greatest disco ever outside of Saturday night fever soundtrack
I would not call Ben a flop. 1. he was around 12 years old 2. he did not have creative control under Motown records 3. Ben was featured in a movie and performed at the oscars in the 70s that is a win
MJ first solo album was off the wall. Jackson history VLAD. The jackson 5 sold over 100 million records. Then the group became the the Jacksons. Then the those albums sold millions of copies. Another fact, even after the bad album. It was the Dangerous album that sold 35 million copies. lol. Then the HISTORY album that sold 25 million records. What the hell is VLAD talking about. lol
Lol taking his own picture and calling it iconic. Most pictures that are iconic have a story and a moment that’s highlighted in history, and taken by other people. Nothing iconic with that picture
As a long time Michael Jackson fan, I think it was a good idea for Micheal to work with new producers after Thriller and Bad. With Teddy Riley and R. Kelly, his sound evolved and he was able to produce hits for the next generation.
Y’all please don’t trust VLADTV as a creditable source. “Ben” was Michael Jackson’s 1st number 1 Billboard Hot 100 single, it was nominated for an Oscar and won a Golden Globe Award. The 2 solo albums released after “Ben” on Motown Records as well as many of the Jackson 5’s albums post 1972 were commercial disappointments due to overexposure and a lack of creative input and a lack of quality control on the songs that were released. When they met on the set of “The Wiz” in 1977 when Michael was 19, The Jacksons were in a rough spot commercially once again due to a lack of creative freedom. In 1978, they released the “Destiny” album and the album was written and produced by the brothers and this is what put them back on the map and granted Michael to do a new solo record and that’s when Michael and Quincy made “Off The Wall” in 1979. They didn’t break up because Michael recorded songs without him. Michael had a full studio at his house and recorded countless songs without Quincy there. They broke up due to the fact that they were butting heads about creative direction and royalty percentages. They had mostly outgrown each other by the end of the 80s. Whenever Michael released his albums after “Bad”, he would submit the finished albums to Quincy for his opinion before he would submit the album to the record label. Vlad is so misleading.
Came to say this! Vlad either is just a MJ hater or doesn’t know the facts. Thanks for clearing this up - calling THE Michael trash is diabolical work.
Vlad is out here glazing quincy Jones, claiming that MJs albums before quincy were trash, forgetting that quincy Jones produced a total of 84 albums in his career.. And literally ALL OF THEM FLOPPED EXCEPT FOR THE 3 MJ ALBUMS. Quincy Jones never had a best selling album without MJ. Meanwhile MJ left quincy Jones and created two more massive bestsellers without quincy Jones. Dangerous sold more than 40M copies till date, HIStory sold 25M copies, both outsold off the wall. Dangerous even outsold bad at first until bad got re-released in 2012. Quincy never had that level of success before or after MJ. MJ had already sold 100M records with the Jackson's before working with quincy. Vlad needs to set his records straight. None of quincys own albums managed to sell more than 2M copies. Man please
Ben came out during the time he was in the Jackson 5 smmfh after the Jackson 5 they were the Jacksons and he didn't release a solo album until Off The Wall
72 “got to be there” , 72”Ben”, 73 “music & me” 75, “forever Michael” all before 79 .. Also let’s not forget the iconic Jacksons albums from 76 to 80 , Vlad has no idea what he’s talkin about
Vlad had MJ’s discography all wrong! Lol talking about Ben flopped and didn’t have any solo hits! He was still with the Jackson 5 when Ben came out fool!!
The "Jacksons" last album was big, then Michael was making Rock with You etc, so don't listen to this guy dumb down our culture that he doesn't know anything about, do your own research.
Vlad says certain things about someone in a particular field to another person whos not knowledgeable of that field. Thats what he does to avoid being fact checked and embarrased on his own show
Yes, it could be argued Quincy didn't want to get back with Michael as he wanted the partnership to end on a high seeing as he couldn't top Thriller album with the Bad album selling 35 million copies. For all we know in the industry, a producer can only have a 3 album good run with a particular artist before it goes downhill.
This guy don’t know what the hell he’s talking about Micheal Jackson first three Albims before off the wall are classics and Michael jai white sits there like a dunce and says nothing and let him get away with it..hey Vladimir you are very disrespectful to black culture calling Michael Jackson first solo albums trash those are classic albums in are culture this why people call you a culture vulture
VLAD needs a history lesson. MJ first solo album was off the wall.The jackson 5 sold over 100 million records. Then the group became the the Jacksons. Then the those albums sold millions of copies. Another fact, even after the bad album. It was the Dangerous album that sold 35 million copies. lol. Then the HISTORY album that sold 25 million records. What the hell is VLAD talking about. lol
Michael had multiple solo records - Music & Me and Forever Michael came after Ben (I had all his solo albums). True - the numbers were not great, and it was just essentially MJ doing J5 music by himself with the Motown crew. As far as Q and MJ spliting: MJ wanted a new sound and wanted to work with multiple producers; it was a mutual parting of the ways based on Teddy Riley's own account (which ironically was shared on Vlad) as well as Rodney and Bruce Sweiden -- and others in the circle. Quincy's best work was during the bebop era producing Miles Davis, Ella Fitzgerald (Jazz), Dizzy and his best album to me was Body Heat - classic! The Dude is a very good album too
It was money, essentially. MJ wanted more production credit (which he got co-producer credit on "Bad" on most of the songs). Quincy always felt he was owed more. He even sued the estate of MJ once MJ got all of his publishing back for early albums...
Michael wrote and arraigned This Place Hotel, Don't stop till get enough, Billie Jean is Michael. Truth is, Quincy never replicated the success he had Michael.
Vlad said that pic with him and Quincy is iconic, as if it’s the lil Kim poster or the death row photo with all the label. “I thought it was such an iconic picture”. Most iconic pictures are taken by OTHER people. same way legends are told by OTHER people
Bro, how do you people have an issue with EVERYTHING this guy says!? Seriously!? How!? Why do people "hate-watch" Vladtv? Just watch something else. So easy.
Another possible reason why Quincy didn't want to get back with Michael is the fact he noticed a change in the music industry with hip hop becoming more popular therefore Quincy decided to call it a day.
Michael was supposed to do 3 projects with quincy. MJ was under the impression that the 3 projects were going yo be "off the wall" " the ET storybook" and "thriller" it's just that quincy and his team didn't count the ET storybook as a part of the 3 album deal. By the time quincy met with Michael jackson for the bad album Mike already had other producers working on about 5 songs and there was very little that Mike would allow quincy to change. Quincy was able to work on a few songs but they say Mike was being incredibly stubborn and quincy was arguing with Mike about his skin changes and because Mike refused to work on quincy jones' projects like "secret garden" with berry white, James Ingram, etc Their relationship was strained ever since
Michael never bricked 😂 Michael always produced all of his tracks at home and then brought them to the studio for Quincy to reproduce. Quincy and MJ separated amicably and recommended Teddy Riley to MJ.
MJ first solo album was off the wall. Jackson history VLAD. The jackson 5 sold over 100 million records. Then the group became the the Jacksons. Then the those albums sold millions of copies. Another fact, even after the bad album. It was the Dangerous album that sold 35 million copies. lol. Then the HISTORY album that sold 25 million records. What the hell is VLAD talking about. lol
If that story about Quincy with Michael Jackson is true, I think it was for the best. Music was changing and Hip-Hop was starting blend into R&B more around the time of 'Dangerous'. Quincy Jones couldn't have did what Teddy Riley did with that album.
How is Vlad gonna say Ben Was a trash album and called that? Is there any sources that says Quincy said the album was trash?? Or was it that he knew he could take MJ a step further and took him under his wing?? That’s like saying 50s album POTD was trash because it wasn’t GRODT. Damn Vlad is so easy to dislike
I believe when Quincy Jones had his brain haemorrhage it made him into a musical genius. He was great before but after he survived that he was just on another level
MJ first solo album was off the wall. Jackson history VLAD. The jackson 5 sold over 100 million records. Then the group became the the Jacksons. Then the those albums sold millions of copies. Another fact, even after the bad album. It was the Dangerous album that sold 35 million copies. lol. Then the HISTORY album that sold 25 million records. What the hell is VLAD talking about. lol
Vlad, quincy's son is a damn liar! It was Michael, not quincy who made off the wall and thriller a smash! That's like saying Phil Jackson was the greatest NBA coach in history...not without MJ! Stop it dude! I'm surprised Michael Ja didn't call you on that BS!
Oh Vlad you're talking a load of s*** Michael Jackson had hit albums before and after he worked with Quincy Jones. They created Magic together but Michael was also great without Quincy as well. None of Michaels albums flopped. Michael decided he didn't want to work on the follow up to Bad because he wanted a different sound and Quincy was not prepared to do that. As if Michael would beg Quincy Jones to stay loool please.. Vlad is the last person to be called a reliable source when it comes to Michael Jackson. He doesn't know what he's talking about. Smh
OK MJW -- Much love & mad respect, but you're starting to approach Vanilla Ice/Gianni Russo/Forrest Gump/Trump territory with all these "I know errything about antything & I was there to witness all events in history" stories.....
look, I like Michael Jai White, but I’m very tired of these dry interviews with him. Vlad tries to bring up topic that Michael has no idea about. I’m not saying he’s out of touch with reality but he doesn’t really care about topics of today.
Michael had "Music & Me", and "Forever, Micheal" after "Ben", and before "Off The Wall".. Vlad don't kno what the hell he be talking about
And "Got To Be There" before "Ben".
Yeah, but he’s saying that none of those albums did it off-the-wall did or thriller or bad.
I mean, I like those albums too, but they weren’t big huge sellers
Off the Wall put MJ on the map as a solo artist. Quincy produced it when folks doubt him.
Q was seen as a Jazz producer up to that point.
He had worked with Sinatra and Streisand previously.
Lotta folks thought his style of production with mash with MJ's.
"Off the Wall" was also greatest disco ever outside of Saturday night fever soundtrack
I would not call Ben a flop. 1. he was around 12 years old 2. he did not have creative control under Motown records 3. Ben was featured in a movie and performed at the oscars in the 70s that is a win
MJ first solo album was off the wall. Jackson history VLAD. The jackson 5 sold over 100 million records. Then the group became the the Jacksons. Then the those albums sold millions of copies. Another fact, even after the bad album. It was the Dangerous album that sold 35 million copies. lol. Then the HISTORY album that sold 25 million records. What the hell is VLAD talking about. lol
Vlads picture with Q is iconic??? I have just seen it for the first time 😂😂😂😂😂🤦🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️
Lol taking his own picture and calling it iconic. Most pictures that are iconic have a story and a moment that’s highlighted in history, and taken by other people. Nothing iconic with that picture
He meant to him you tool 😂
He Said iconic to him not everyone. If you would pay attention like your mother told you to do in school you wouldn't sound dumb. ✊🏻✊🏻
Vlad is cringe man
Michael was NEVER trash
After the Bad album, he definitely was. With the exceptions to a few singles on the later albums
As a long time Michael Jackson fan, I think it was a good idea for Micheal to work with new producers after Thriller and Bad. With Teddy Riley and R. Kelly, his sound evolved and he was able to produce hits for the next generation.
Michael Jackson released four solo albums ("Got To Be There", "Ben", "Music & Me", "Forever Michael") when he was still performing with the Jackson 5.
Calling MJ trash is crazy work
Y’all please don’t trust VLADTV as a creditable source. “Ben” was Michael Jackson’s 1st number 1 Billboard Hot 100 single, it was nominated for an Oscar and won a Golden Globe Award. The 2 solo albums released after “Ben” on Motown Records as well as many of the Jackson 5’s albums post 1972 were commercial disappointments due to overexposure and a lack of creative input and a lack of quality control on the songs that were released. When they met on the set of “The Wiz” in 1977 when Michael was 19, The Jacksons were in a rough spot commercially once again due to a lack of creative freedom. In 1978, they released the “Destiny” album and the album was written and produced by the brothers and this is what put them back on the map and granted Michael to do a new solo record and that’s when Michael and Quincy made “Off The Wall” in 1979. They didn’t break up because Michael recorded songs without him. Michael had a full studio at his house and recorded countless songs without Quincy there. They broke up due to the fact that they were butting heads about creative direction and royalty percentages. They had mostly outgrown each other by the end of the 80s. Whenever Michael released his albums after “Bad”, he would submit the finished albums to Quincy for his opinion before he would submit the album to the record label. Vlad is so misleading.
Came to say this! Vlad either is just a MJ hater or doesn’t know the facts. Thanks for clearing this up - calling THE Michael trash is diabolical work.
Somebody plz interview Vlad! It’s clear he wants to be the star not the interviewer 🤦🏽♀️
He keep declining my interview 🤔
“Nah I’m sayin!??!” - vlad
He's done interviews... Quite a few pretty recently
Why is Vvlad telling Michael Jai White about Michael Jackson? I thought this is an interview? Vlad talks too much.
Vlad shouldn’t speak on Michael Jackson ever again the Ben album wasn’t trash lmao
Vlad is out here glazing quincy Jones, claiming that MJs albums before quincy were trash, forgetting that quincy Jones produced a total of 84 albums in his career.. And literally ALL OF THEM FLOPPED EXCEPT FOR THE 3 MJ ALBUMS. Quincy Jones never had a best selling album without MJ. Meanwhile MJ left quincy Jones and created two more massive bestsellers without quincy Jones. Dangerous sold more than 40M copies till date, HIStory sold 25M copies, both outsold off the wall. Dangerous even outsold bad at first until bad got re-released in 2012. Quincy never had that level of success before or after MJ. MJ had already sold 100M records with the Jackson's before working with quincy. Vlad needs to set his records straight. None of quincys own albums managed to sell more than 2M copies. Man please
Ben is not trash!! And Mike was a kid!! VLAD is a damn fool 😂😂
Mind you the song Ben won an Oscar!
Ben came out during the time he was in the Jackson 5 smmfh after the Jackson 5 they were the Jacksons and he didn't release a solo album until Off The Wall
Music and Me and Forever Michael came out before Off The Wall.
72 “got to be there” , 72”Ben”, 73 “music & me” 75, “forever Michael” all before 79 .. Also let’s not forget the iconic Jacksons albums from 76 to 80 , Vlad has no idea what he’s talkin about
ever heard of barry gordy and Motown
If Quincy Jones sat by me on my own first movie screening I’d lose my mind
Dude was seriously not praised enough.
Vlad had MJ’s discography all wrong! Lol talking about Ben flopped and didn’t have any solo hits! He was still with the Jackson 5 when Ben came out fool!!
Wasn't "Ben" a movie soundtrack?
The "Jacksons" last album was big, then Michael was making Rock with You etc, so don't listen to this guy dumb down our culture that he doesn't know anything about, do your own research.
7:46 bushido brown don’t wipe his on ass 😂😂😂
Vlad says certain things about someone in a particular field to another person whos not knowledgeable of that field. Thats what he does to avoid being fact checked and embarrased on his own show
You got it .
💯💯
Betta put some RESPEK on MJ albums!
Quincy Jones is Diddys dad
i said SPAWN literally at the same time as him i just knew it for some reason
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Yes, it could be argued Quincy didn't want to get back with Michael as he wanted the partnership to end on a high seeing as he couldn't top Thriller album with the Bad album selling 35 million copies. For all we know in the industry, a producer can only have a 3 album good run with a particular artist before it goes downhill.
This guy don’t know what the hell he’s talking about Micheal Jackson first three Albims before off the wall are classics and Michael jai white sits there like a dunce and says nothing and let him get away with it..hey Vladimir you are very disrespectful to black culture calling Michael Jackson first solo albums trash those are classic albums in are culture this why people call you a culture vulture
VLAD needs a history lesson. MJ first solo album was off the wall.The jackson 5 sold over 100 million records. Then the group became the the Jacksons. Then the those albums sold millions of copies. Another fact, even after the bad album. It was the Dangerous album that sold 35 million copies. lol. Then the HISTORY album that sold 25 million records. What the hell is VLAD talking about. lol
Michael had multiple solo records - Music & Me and Forever Michael came after Ben (I had all his solo albums). True - the numbers were not great, and it was just essentially MJ doing J5 music by himself with the Motown crew. As far as Q and MJ spliting: MJ wanted a new sound and wanted to work with multiple producers; it was a mutual parting of the ways based on Teddy Riley's own account (which ironically was shared on Vlad) as well as Rodney and Bruce Sweiden -- and others in the circle.
Quincy's best work was during the bebop era producing Miles Davis, Ella Fitzgerald (Jazz), Dizzy and his best album to me was Body Heat - classic! The Dude is a very good album too
It was money, essentially. MJ wanted more production credit (which he got co-producer credit on "Bad" on most of the songs). Quincy always felt he was owed more. He even sued the estate of MJ once MJ got all of his publishing back for early albums...
This was real. Your humility makes your content resonate more.
Calling vlad humble is one of the wildest things i have seen this week.
Michael wrote and arraigned This Place Hotel, Don't stop till get enough, Billie Jean is Michael. Truth is, Quincy never replicated the success he had Michael.
Think about all of the Sinatra albums too! Genius
Didnt Michael release Ben as a child!? Vlad is dumb
I seen him in front of the Wynn crossing the street in Las Vegas a few years ago
MJW is going to be back for another interview in about two or three weeks
Vlad said that pic with him and Quincy is iconic, as if it’s the lil Kim poster or the death row photo with all the label. “I thought it was such an iconic picture”. Most iconic pictures are taken by OTHER people. same way legends are told by OTHER people
Bro, how do you people have an issue with EVERYTHING this guy says!? Seriously!? How!?
Why do people "hate-watch" Vladtv? Just watch something else. So easy.
...In the Heat of The Night
Vlad timeline be off af. Damn near all Michael Solo shit pre Off The Wall was happening while he was very much still with his brothers😂
This the same dude who thought tupac was alive when ether dropped. He thought Tupac on the track
@ch33zybreadtrellie4 😂😂🤣
Another possible reason why Quincy didn't want to get back with Michael is the fact he noticed a change in the music industry with hip hop becoming more popular therefore Quincy decided to call it a day.
Vlad had a Keri Washington look alike😊😊
😂😂😂😂😂😂🤦🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️
Michael was supposed to do 3 projects with quincy. MJ was under the impression that the 3 projects were going yo be "off the wall" " the ET storybook" and "thriller"
it's just that quincy and his team didn't count the ET storybook as a part of the 3 album deal. By the time quincy met with Michael jackson for the bad album Mike already had other producers working on about 5 songs and there was very little that Mike would allow quincy to change. Quincy was able to work on a few songs but they say Mike was being incredibly stubborn and quincy was arguing with Mike about his skin changes and because Mike refused to work on quincy jones' projects like "secret garden" with berry white, James Ingram, etc
Their relationship was strained ever since
Omg I can’t wait to see Vlad in a Boosie movie
Michael did NOT need Quincy. Michael produced remarkable, timeless music even without him in the albums that followed
Vlad be like “oh I thought I was the only one that knew everybody”
Jai didn't say shit of the matter, he's like "yea yea yea yea yea..."😂
Ben won a Grammy
Michael never bricked 😂 Michael always produced all of his tracks at home and then brought them to the studio for Quincy to reproduce.
Quincy and MJ separated amicably and recommended Teddy Riley to MJ.
I listened to the demos on youtube, the tracks he took to the producers where almost done.
MJ first solo album was off the wall. Jackson history VLAD. The jackson 5 sold over 100 million records. Then the group became the the Jacksons. Then the those albums sold millions of copies. Another fact, even after the bad album. It was the Dangerous album that sold 35 million copies. lol. Then the HISTORY album that sold 25 million records. What the hell is VLAD talking about. lol
@@jaisonduller7916 exactly. That was their process. There was never a “Michael is sneaking in the studio so I’m leaving” moment.
@@DerrayJones PREACH
The Forest Gump of music.
What the Bible calls an Enchanter.
Vlad just told the unnecessary lie, quincy jones definitely wanted a fourth album with michael jackson
If that story about Quincy with Michael Jackson is true, I think it was for the best. Music was changing and Hip-Hop was starting blend into R&B more around the time of 'Dangerous'. Quincy Jones couldn't have did what Teddy Riley did with that album.
As usual, Vlad asks a question and then talks 80% of the time
How is Vlad gonna say Ben Was a trash album and called that? Is there any sources that says Quincy said the album was trash?? Or was it that he knew he could take MJ a step further and took him under his wing?? That’s like saying 50s album POTD was trash because it wasn’t GRODT. Damn Vlad is so easy to dislike
Trash?...Ben was nominated for an academy award in 1973 and Michael performed it at the Oscar's.
I believe when Quincy Jones had his brain haemorrhage it made him into a musical genius. He was great before but after he survived that he was just on another level
Vlad didn't deserve to meet Quincy Jones.
MJ first solo album was off the wall. Jackson history VLAD. The jackson 5 sold over 100 million records. Then the group became the the Jacksons. Then the those albums sold millions of copies. Another fact, even after the bad album. It was the Dangerous album that sold 35 million copies. lol. Then the HISTORY album that sold 25 million records. What the hell is VLAD talking about. lol
I'm watching this video and thinking, maybe I should get a cat too. If only for TH-cam💋
He don't got hands
Vlad, quincy's son is a damn liar! It was Michael, not quincy who made off the wall and thriller a smash! That's like saying Phil Jackson was the greatest NBA coach in history...not without MJ! Stop it dude! I'm surprised Michael Ja didn't call you on that BS!
Stop! You people are insufferable!! Constant nagging, complaining, nagging, complaining.
So what!? That his opinion! You have yours.
Best of parody with this gentleman.... He really has no clue how corny he is
Michael Jae is in it for the money.
Oh Vlad you're talking a load of s*** Michael Jackson had hit albums before and after he worked with Quincy Jones. They created Magic together but Michael was also great without Quincy as well. None of Michaels albums flopped. Michael decided he didn't want to work on the follow up to Bad because he wanted a different sound and Quincy was not prepared to do that. As if Michael would beg Quincy Jones to stay loool please.. Vlad is the last person to be called a reliable source when it comes to Michael Jackson. He doesn't know what he's talking about. Smh
Vlad it wasn’t an iconic photo bruh you NOT HIM!!!!
Every interview, glad proves why rick ross did what he did.
Aight DJ Vlad see you in a couple of months. 🙄
Vlad you still ain’t Black 😂
So now Vlad explainsBlack culture to a black man ?ok ok
He didn’t hit on your lady
Ehhh...it's more complicated than that👇🏾
"Why Michael Jackson Let Quincy Jones Go? The Real Reason They Split" TH-cam channel "The Detail"
Once again Vlad spitting false facts. Michael was a child
When he did Ben 😂😂😂
OK MJW -- Much love & mad respect, but you're starting to approach Vanilla Ice/Gianni Russo/Forrest Gump/Trump territory with all these "I know errything about antything & I was there to witness all events in history" stories.....
This Vulutre sitting up here telli lies on the great QJ...
look, I like Michael Jai White, but I’m very tired of these dry interviews with him. Vlad tries to bring up topic that Michael has no idea about. I’m not saying he’s out of touch with reality but he doesn’t really care about topics of today.
Mike puttin on a few pounds. 😉
Still sexy and rich
Really before quincy Michael was flopping? I find that hard to believe and before quincy Michael put out ben was it really trash tho hmmmm?
Don't listen to vlad. MJ sold over 100M records with the Jackson's before working with quincy. He never flopped
wu tang.
That was a weak story about Michael 🤦🏽♂️ Very weak 👎🏽
Just like Trump inadvertently made a lot of TH-camrs rich over the last 8-9 years
That’s a fact !
Trump kept CNN, MSNBC and the View profitable.
Last 😁 🤬 💩 😁
3rd Comment
Vlad is full of shit
2nd Comment.
First comment 💯
Gratulation 🤣
thirst 🪣
Okay do what u want fuckin cookie
In Steven A Smith voice…”we don’t care”😂😂😂
you act like havin' the "first comment" means somethin'
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