I saw that clip and was reminded of the way some other countries (some courts?) physically sequester the accused in a booth (sometimes with Lexan walls) from the rest of the courtroom.
It has been shown in one country that people who are sent to a mental health facility rather than being than tried, will spend longer there on average than in prison. Reason is that the review committee will not release them unless their mental health is under control. Someone that worked in a facility told me that they had some very well behaved patients, but they would not take medications unless forced.
People can sound competent when they really aren't. People can also actually be competent and do really stupid things. This is the kind of distinction that should be left to professionals. Hospitalization and court monitored therapy and medication could easily be the "correct" path forward. I don't know, and neither does anyone here, unless they're actually a trained professional and fully read up on the details of the case.
The sister said she didn't think prison would help him. Someone one needs to tell her it is not always about helping him. It's about protecting the public from him.
I'm really glad that you bring up the mental health aspects of our legal system. There's always room for improvement and mental health should be taken into account.
I watched the interviews of the foster mom and sister. The whole thing was just deflecting how it wasn't his fault at all, no one around him is a good person, the system failed him, when he's not listening to the voices and on his meds he's the sweetest person, he didn't do that to the bailiff, the bailiff did it to himself(?!) and so on. It's no wonder he thinks it's fine to act this way.
He's not rational, and not likely to get much better-- after that leap, he'll not convince anyone that he's not a danger to the public. Treatments for his condition often don't help, even if accessible. It sadly remains that he's a danger.
That video was amazing insasmuch as the defendant IMMEDIATELY launched his attack just after a long diatribe about how good he was now. Talk about exposing your own lie in a bad way.
One thing to keep in mind is that many people with mental health issues don't think they need the help - even after multiple run ins with the law. Look into Anosognosia if you are interested in learning more about it. I'm not saying going to prison is the right consequence, but if a person isn't interested in getting any help, it's hard to "make them" get it.
@@alanmcentee9457Who cares! He violently attacked other people constantly so he would do it again if not for prison. And he needs to be punished for it.
Any attorney worth his salt will convince this poor soul to take a plea offered by the DA in any legal proceedings against him. His case should never get to a trial with zero chance of winning.
There's not much need to plea bargain. The best he can hope for is concurrent sentences and not congruent. The sentencing judge can decide that his sentence doesn't start till he's paroled on the previous charges. This guy can not be out on the streets.
A decent attorney will be subpoenaing the jail medical records. Why did the jail not give him his medication? Why did the jail not have mental health counselors to evaluate him? How long had he been without his medication? What is the jail's policy on treating mental health? A good attorney can get some or most those charges reduced and dropped if the jail failed his mental health. That doesn't make the attack on the judge any better, but mental health problems is not something anyone should ignore.
@@alanmcentee9457 According to a interview his family gave, he had been out on probation before rearrected and that last time, he had his meds was while incarcerated by the jail. If that interview is factual suported by jail records it would take Perry Mason to get it dropped.
I just found this channel and I cannot stop watching... It is absolutely wonderful antology of what I would call a "human condition". I love commentary as well as personal stories sprinkled here and there :))
I worked in community mental health for nearly a decade. Many of these folks will not comply with treatment - they don't take their meds, they are drug/alcohol abusers, thier case workers are chasing them all over four counties, and they are a general pain in the ass to the community. Being mentally ill is not a free pass for acting out or being violent. Unfortunately the way ITA laws work is that the moment this person shows any sort orientation, and can convince a judge he is in some sort of degree of sound mind, he is back out on the streets. Three months later, he is back in custody. Released again. Repeat x300. This is why the court system and medical system are broken. Lock this guy up, and give him treatment in the prison wing of a state mental hospital. I live in a major city where the everyday folks are being run ragged by these individuals. And from what I am seeing, the entire country is being run ragged by them.
My only time on jury, when we went to sentencing the person. Near half only wanted to give the minimum, the other near half only wanted to give maximum. I kept telling them it's a suggestion and compromise and do middle. After FOUR hours the judge asked us what's going on, after hearing that he sent us home. I yelled at the group outside that we could have gone home three hours earlier if they would have listened to me. SMH.
"I dont think sending him to prison will help" Him? Maybe not. But sometimes we need to imprison people for the rest of us. We are seeing here in California what the dangers are of just letting them roam the streets. Sorry, but life ain't fair
I think the idea would be to get them help while also protecting the public. Something other than prison or walkibng the streets. There’s something pretty damn worng with putting sick people into prison. We’re willing to pay for his incarceration, why not medical help? Out of sight out of mind I suppose.
She’s only sentencing him for the previous charges she was going over before he attacked her 🫣💆🏾♀️🤷🏾♀️ she can’t do the case for him attacking her 💯 CONFLICT of INTEREST, he will go before another judge for this. I work in mental health Courts and most of these people are criminals, mental health behavior. I hate the fact that people keep stating (they) were off their medication. Well 🤷🏾♀️ get their medication before they are completely out 💆🏾♀️🤦🏽♀️
Or force them to take their meds, perhaps. The whole concept of forced medication is kind of icky, where do lines get drawn and who holds the pencil? Tis a puzzlement.
Defense lawyer: "Look at her up there, all high and mighty. I bet you could take a swing or two, teach her a lesson." Perp: "Rokay raggy! Reeeheeeheeeheeee! ROOBY ROOO!" Just my warped sense of humor.
It gets crazier. His family is blaming everyone but him for his choice to attack the judge. Now we know why he is the way he is, nobody has ever stood up to his abuse until now.
The hearing was very short. I watched it on our Nevada Judges. This guy is a menace. Most folks don’t know, but schizophrenics are rarely violent, but those who are violent, are prone to just This type of sudden eruptive violent acts. I think that a more salient question would be, should garden variety criminals have to be subjected to dealing with such individuals within the penal system….🤔🤔
Yeah, different types of schizophrenia, I’ve known several very gentle people with it who seemed quite “normal” to me and if they hadn’t told me I never would have known. Bipolar is a different animal, I had a dance partner with it and he always was a bit off, but still behaved normally…..until one time a friend asked him to do something, like move his chair a few inches because his was in the dance floor, and he erupted in rage screaming and waving his arms in a very threatening manner. I was stunned as we all were. That was pretty much the end of that. He asked to meet in a public place to talk a week or so later, but he was acting strange and wanted to move in with me, either that or if I would give him a huge chunk of money. I declined and left. I feel bad for him (and anyone with mental illness) because no one asks for it, just like I never asked for near-daily or daily migraines, but I don’t take it out on people, and not to be self righteous but I take my meds and do what my dr’s tell me, like most people.
Mental health treatment in the US is massively overpriced and most insurance will not cover it. For someone who is poor, unable to work, they get less resources to help them deal with their condition. The US is by far the worst developed country in taking care of their most vulnerable and broken people. They much rather give massive financial breaks and generous supports to the super rich.
I think what is needed is a system that allows judges to sentence criminals with known mental diagnosis to a mental facility even if they are competent to stand trial. a 10 year sentence in prison vs a 10 year sentence at a high security mental facility is the same thing as far as society is concerned but the latter actually having the potential for rehabilitation unlike the for profit prisons of America
The deinstitutionalisation that occurred during the 60s and 70s was a great disservice to society. There were of course gross human rights violations that occurred in those institutions, but they should have reformed them, not done away with them. The people who would be locked away in those institutions today are either now in jail waiting to be let back on the streets to cause more harm, or on the streets where they are a danger to society and will end up back in jail. They were better off before, even considering those human rights violations, and society was certainly better off. That's why we didn't have mass shootings in school like we do today. That's why kids were allowed to run around the neighborhood from dawn till dusk back then.
It sounds like a good theory, but decades later in the late nineties kids like me still wandered around as much as we wanted. There's no way something which changed in the 70s had that long of a delay.
Yep. In the early 70’s my sister and her husband (Bruce) lived in a halfway house as (I’m using the wrong word here) supervisors for the mental patients who were slowly being integrated into society. It was part of my bil’s uni program where they stayed for a year, making sure the patients got their meds, were back by curfew, solved any minor tiffs btwn patients, etc. It was going quite well until one of the patients, as it turned out, stopped taking his meds just was pretending to, and one day in the kitchen quite out of the blue grabbed a huge knife and stabbed Bruce in the stomach for some unknown reason. Fortunately they got Bruce to the hospital in time and saved his life. They caught the patient and returned him to the institution. When they did change the law and closed all the mental institutions, that patient was released along with all the others. His reason for stopping his meds was that he was feeling good and didn’t think he needed them any more.
I saw him in the recent update. He had a Hannibal like bite/spit mask on along with adult size mittens like they give a newborn to keep them from scratching on along with a stun belt.
This is what happens when you are told all of your life by Politicians and community activists you are not responsible for your own actions, that you always have someone else to blame.
PS: If I remember correctly, one of his relatives stated that he was off his meds. That is one of the big problems, they do get help, they get prescribed meds and then they stop taking them. Frankly I think the public needs to be protected from crazy people...now if we can just figure out how to apply that to congress....
Yeah. Everything that could be shackled was shackled including chains from his ankle chains to his wrist chains; spit/bite mask & mittens on his hands; and cops EVERYWHERE!
I've always had this sort of thing come up when dealing with parents and their kids at the grocery store. The kid will do something crazy and the parent will just shrug and be all like, "Kids will be kids". And like, yes, kids will be kids, but, if you know you're kid acts like that? Well, then it is your responsibility as a parent to stop them, because you are the responsible one in that situation. In this case, it is an adult with mental issues, however, the parent shrugged it off and blamed it on his mental health. Sure, that is a valid excuse for why he did it. What is not valid, is the fact that he has been allowed to continue putting others at risk. Now, the US sucks for health care, especially mental health. There might have been no legitimate way for them to have gotten him proper care. But that isn't what they went on about. They talked about how when he is on his meds, he's fine (plus some nonsense about the bailiff doing it to himself). That's the problem though! If he is fine while on his meds, why are there so many things in his record? I have to assume either he isn't actually fine while on his meds or he is in a situation where he can just go off his meds. At that point? Him going off his meds is on him or those responsible for making sure he remembers. Might there be a problem with the supply of his medication? Maybe. But then it is their responsibility to either figure out a way to handle that or keep him and others safe until more meds are available. The worst part? If supply is the problem? There probably is no solution. They likely don't have the money for any solution that does exist. After all, right now a ton of people are going into work despite being sick because they can not afford to miss a day of work and I'm sure this guy isn't exactly doing better.
A lot of contradictions there. So is it his fault he is mentally ill or the parent's fault? I'm interested in whether I should blame my parents for my cancer diagnosis. Is what the parents opined about relevant? Does that have anything to do with his jumping the bench? Or is the fact that when he is on his medication he is fine relevant? Which leads into the question, was he getting his meds while in the County jail? And, if he wasn't getting his meds, isn't the jail partially responsible for the attack?
@@alanmcentee9457 No one is to blame for his mental health diagnosis. However, what the parent opined about is important. She stated that while on his meds, he is fine. However, he has a long record and thus either he isn't actually fine while on the meds or he is fine on the meds, but for some reason would go off his meds. This has a few broad possiblities. 1) people decided he was responsible enough to monitor his own med intake (despite the fact that at this point we have proof he is not). 2) he can't always get his meds, whether because of cost or availability. 3) the meds only help so much (because it is quite possible that sometimes his brain goes off balance even if he is regularly taking the meds). If the situation is 1, then when it was noticed that he was not responsible enough to stay on his meds by himself, someone needed to step forward to make sure he did. Depending on how young he was or if he still stayed with them, his parents are the first likely people to carry this responsibility. Admittedly, with his criminal record, I'm somewhat surprised he didn't have some court ordered person that he needed to check in with every once in a while to confirm he is on his meds. It seems like a sensible thing to order for a parole or similar. (Edit: and if as an adult it was decided no one but himself was responsible for his meds, well, apparently he was fine while on them and this one assumes he had a steady access to the meds meaning it is all his responsibility) If the situation is 2, well, sucks to be him. The US healthcare situation is broken and he is a victim of it. No one to blame directly, with one caveat. If he is unable to afford his meds not because he can't, but because he is irresponsible with his money? Well, then responsibility falls completely on him. Because at some point he will have been on his meds and yet he decided to spend the money needed for said meds on other things. If the situation is 3 (and I admit there are probably other situations, I just can't think of them off the top of my head), well, sucks to be him. The US healthcare situation is broken and he is a victim of it, maybe. If it is known that the meds aren't completely effective, there is a chance he could have worked with whoever prescribed the meds to try and find different meds that do a better job. Though this is a painful process and it is entirely possible that they've already done this and his current meds are the best they've found. Depending on his situation and whether he is able to recognize when the meds are starting to fail we have a nasty chain of potential responsibilities. And as for whether the jail was providing his meds? Well, that is something his new lawyer will have to determine. If this turns out to be the case, then he might even get off to some extent as the lawyer would likely be able to argue the attack was not his fault, but rather the jails negligence. Of course, there are all kinds of possibilities here. Take two possibilities. Did the jail know he needed meds? Were the meds available? You might think those two give you four possibilities ranging from the jail not knowing and them not being available to them knowing and them being available. However, this isn't black and white, yes or no. What does "available" mean? where they in stock at the local pharmacy? Where they with the mom? Did the jail have them in stock? And did the jail just have him claiming to need the meds, proof from a doctor that he needed them, did the mom tell them he needed them and then him say he didn't? And all that doesn't even include possibilities such as him claiming he is taking them, but not actually taking them and is it the jails responsibility to make sure when he says he took them, that he did? I can see the coming nonsense for him being quite complex if it isn't a straightforward "He was getting his meds in jail".
Security in that courtroom was horrible. If I was acting as security, that guy wouldn't have made it over the judge's desk. I would have given him a football tackle because I would have positioned myself between the guy and the judge....always! For some reason, security had gotten complacent and security thought they were "just hanging around".
The problem was the security experienced deep staffing cuts over the year due to funding cuts. Hard to prevent such sudden violence if you lack the staff
@@ph11p3540 If you have a minimum of two, one is guarding the door and the other is in between the judge and the defendant. Funding Cuts - A republican way of handing more taxcuts to the rich.
I would expect the defense counsel to ask the court, in chambers, to excuse him as a witness because he is not an essential witness and, under the circumstances, it would be unseemly for him to testify. After that I would expect him to ask the court to relieve him as counsel and appoint new counsel.
I actually agree with this. In this context, with other witnesses and video, making his defense attorney testify would be more prejudicial than it is probative.
I am curious, if an individual had been well behaved in their interviews leading to a sentencing report suggesting they were not likely to cause future problems then they pulled a stunt like this what would happen? If their actions at sentencing were to clearly contradict the sentencing report would the judge be allowed to deviate from the report recommendations or ask for a revised report? Or would they still get a low sentence for the original crimes and just get harsher sentencing on the new crimes?
The guy thought that by pleading guilty he would be sent free. When he realised he was going to jail he "felt betrayed" and... essentially PROVED the judge was wrong, and should have given him the maximum from the get-go. Brilliant mind this *Deobra Redden*
Someone please Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't the Supreme Court ruled a long time ago that you can't force someone to undergo treatment for mental health issues. I remember that a lot of people that were in mental hospitals were released back into communities with instructions to continue therapy on an outpatient basses, very few did, and they for the most part were the original "homeless" and it went downhill from there.
Exactly. This pretty much ended public mental health for those that truly need it. People with bi-polar, schizophrenia, and similar mental desires simply do not think they are sick. And the second they return to their rational mind, and their episode is over, they check themselves out and leave.
I kind of remember St. Ronnie of Raygun saying that community organizations and treatment would take care of those folks. For the most part the resources never materialized.
@@raygunsforronnie847 St. Ronnie did indeed say things like that. The process of deinstitutionalization started long before he took office, however. A trivial effort with a search engine finds citations back to the end of the 1950s.The details vary by state but California saw the state hospital population drop from over 37,000 in 1959 to about 2,000 in 1967, when he became governor. His administrations, both state and national, worked to further reduce public spending on mental health.
@@jerrylohr3491 You may note that I did not assign blame to Reagan (as many incorrectly do). I merely noted that he was "spokes-face" for the suggestion that care would be available at that point in time and that communities largely failed, for whatever reasons, to meet the need.
I listened to the family’s interview. It was sad to hear his mental diagnosis, that he had medication while in jail, but did not receive any upon his release. The soonest he could get an appointment for his medication was into March!
I seen the video when he was brought in to court with all that Steve said , They should of brought him in a chair chained up too. . How much time will he get for attacking a Judge , I would think many years behind bars .
Okay, so maybe he has mental health issues, maybe not. But why is the public at large expected to be victimized by criminals like this. The courts coddle criminals that claim mental defects. We as innocent people suffer.
Just remember we all walk a thin line on mental stability. How would you rather have places that can help and treat people or would you want to be sent to prison because of an accident to your head?
And would you do the same to your wife or kids if they had mental problems. Send them off to prison if they didn't take meds or have him do the same to you?
@Jblaze024 I'll tell you where I'm coming from. In my youth, I was a short, skinny guy. I was tormented by bullying in school. When I was home, I was scoffed at and ridiculed by my own family . I was labeled as stupid in school because of my bad grades. I lived in a horrible neighborhood. If you didn't belong to a gang, you were a target. I hung out with the only people who would have me. We did drugs and stole whatever we could get our hands on. I was robbed at gun point several times. I was raised around psychopaths. It turns out I wasn't stupid. Children do bad in school when they are bullied every day. I was smart enough to separate myself from that life. Yea, maybe I'm a jerk for not having sympathy for psychopaths and drug addicts. I give the same sympathy I was given my entire life. Since you brought up family. How would you feel if a narcissistic psychopath drove his car through a parade and killed your 10 year old boy. How would you feel if you found out the court gave this child raping wife beating animal chance after chance. Then, he ultimately kills 6 innocent people and injured 70 more.
7 counts of felony assault on a protected person in Nevada can result up to 10 years prison per offence and sentences can be consecutive if found guilty on 2 or more charges.
Unfortunately, you hit it on the head when you talked about mental health. I have a relative diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia, and the fact is they will look you right in the face and say the radio news is talking to her directly. And they will not see anything wrong with this. The only reason they get any help is because our family forces it on them. This guy obviously did not have that, or perhaps even the means to get it. It is so easy to say 'oh he should get help' but the reality is, where? From who? Mental health is far from free, and the United States ended state sponsored mental health in the 80's when asylums were ended. Now the few that are left are filled beyond capacity, where they exist at all. And even if you do manage to be able to find a spot in a mental health facility, unless there is a court order, they can just check themselves out no matter what the doctor says, and they will, because they really believe nothing is wrong. So this is what happens.
As I listen to this, less than an hour after it was put up, I am seeing how the thumbs up numbers going up quickly. It was 714 when I started, it's now 814.
"Evil and has an out for me" ... yup that sounds like schizophrenia alright, my mom had it and thankfully she was never violent but she did have habits and tendencies that showed up whenever she wasn't taking her meds which made her act like a completely different person, everyone was evil to the point some people actually started "growing devil horns". If the guy in this story doesn't have meds that are effective and he's just constantly untreated he's probably going to be what the doctors call "deranged" and his attorney should have absolutely used the insanity defense because this situation is exactly what that defense is there for, the man needs to be in a psychiatric ward where he can get treatment not in prison.
There's a fine line between being a thug and being criminally insane. Whether prison or institution, the primary goal ought to be to protect the rest of us. This guy is clearly beyond any "help."
Now, who else remembers an old Mad Magazine (or a related publication) cartoon about a crime committed in a baseball stadium in front of 50,000 witnesses, and the prosecutor, determined to finally beat defense attorney Perry Mason, announces that he will call all the witnesses in alphabetical order: "Anthony A. Aardvark, take the stand please."
For most human beings, visuals are ALWAYS more compelling than verbal descriptions, partly because the verbal must be translated into imagery in the receiver's mind.
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Got to love that just before he attacked the judge, he made a statement to the effect of "he learned his lesson and that violence is in his past".
I saw that clip and was reminded of the way some other countries (some courts?) physically sequester the accused in a booth (sometimes with Lexan walls) from the rest of the courtroom.
Free Legal Advice: Never attack the judge who is sentencing you.
Good advice.
" Do you license to give advice ?" a lawer said" we will take you to court."
@@vietcongbuondanbannuocphan1791I'm pretty sure this level of legal advice does not require a license.
Disclaimer: This is not legal advice.
Free legal advice: Never physically attack judges in general.
There isn't always treatment available that fixes this kind of activity. Being locked up does protect the public.
9mm in back of the head cures it.
It has been shown in one country that people who are sent to a mental health facility rather than being than tried, will spend longer there on average than in prison. Reason is that the review committee will not release them unless their mental health is under control. Someone that worked in a facility told me that they had some very well behaved patients, but they would not take medications unless forced.
Dude has a past of domestic violence and proved to everyone he needs to serve time.
The "bench vaulter" sounded competent and very much in control pre- sentence. Lock him up. Throw away the keys.
People can sound competent when they really aren't. People can also actually be competent and do really stupid things. This is the kind of distinction that should be left to professionals. Hospitalization and court monitored therapy and medication could easily be the "correct" path forward. I don't know, and neither does anyone here, unless they're actually a trained professional and fully read up on the details of the case.
Whoa whoa whoa let's give him some credit! He wasn't just an gold medalist vaulter, but also a world class jogger as well!
Again I'll ask; was he getting the medical assistance he needed while in the County jail? If he wasn't then they are part of the problem.
@@alanmcentee9457lol we don't help people in America
@@internallyinteral Didn't you hear? Prisons will help with "gender reassignment" for certain incarcerated people. Isn't that help?
Boy, did he screw up.
The sister said she didn't think prison would help him.
Someone one needs to tell her it is not always about helping him. It's about protecting the public from him.
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
Or "Eff around, and find out." ^-^
More like play gay games, win gay prizes
I'm really glad that you bring up the mental health aspects of our legal system. There's always room for improvement and mental health should be taken into account.
That was not an attack on a judge, but more a desperate plea for more prison time.
Can you blame him? Rent is expensive out here in NV. Now he gets to chill and ride out a few extra months of free room and board.
Months? He will get 10 YEARS...
😮definitely I think so as well. And he snapped, something I see in court daily and pray they don’t snap the day I’m working 💯🙏🏾
@@brentfarvors192 I do not want him living in my neighborhood.
Its not an attack, hes the "defendant", its self defense
I watched the interviews of the foster mom and sister. The whole thing was just deflecting how it wasn't his fault at all, no one around him is a good person, the system failed him, when he's not listening to the voices and on his meds he's the sweetest person, he didn't do that to the bailiff, the bailiff did it to himself(?!) and so on. It's no wonder he thinks it's fine to act this way.
Sounds pretty standard
@@Bino9898 Sadly, yes.
He's not rational, and not likely to get much better-- after that leap, he'll not convince anyone that he's not a danger to the public. Treatments for his condition often don't help, even if accessible. It sadly remains that he's a danger.
His blmfamily mostly deflected and said it he dimadoooMufffinz? Ya don't say....
It's obviously societies fault.
His lawyer told him to go throw himself at the mercy of the court.
And his CRTBLM comrades told him it would be mostly peaceful.
Ben on the hood of the Viper.
That video was amazing insasmuch as the defendant IMMEDIATELY launched his attack just after a long diatribe about how good he was now. Talk about exposing your own lie in a bad way.
One thing to keep in mind is that many people with mental health issues don't think they need the help - even after multiple run ins with the law. Look into Anosognosia if you are interested in learning more about it. I'm not saying going to prison is the right consequence, but if a person isn't interested in getting any help, it's hard to "make them" get it.
While true, we don't have a habit of sentencing other sick people to jail.
If it's happening here, it probably happens a lot
@@alanmcentee9457. I think we do.
@@alanmcentee9457Who cares! He violently attacked other people constantly so he would do it again if not for prison. And he needs to be punished for it.
Any attorney worth his salt will convince this poor soul to take a plea offered by the DA in any legal proceedings against him. His case should never get to a trial with zero chance of winning.
You might get a surprise from the jury. Might get a juror who hates the system and says not guilty.
There's not much need to plea bargain.
The best he can hope for is concurrent sentences and not congruent.
The sentencing judge can decide that his sentence doesn't start till he's paroled on the previous charges.
This guy can not be out on the streets.
A decent attorney will be subpoenaing the jail medical records. Why did the jail not give him his medication? Why did the jail not have mental health counselors to evaluate him? How long had he been without his medication? What is the jail's policy on treating mental health?
A good attorney can get some or most those charges reduced and dropped if the jail failed his mental health. That doesn't make the attack on the judge any better, but mental health problems is not something anyone should ignore.
@@corssecurityyou mean consecutive, not congruent.
@@alanmcentee9457 According to a interview his family gave, he had been out on probation before rearrected and that last time, he had his meds was while incarcerated by the jail. If that interview is factual suported by jail records it would take Perry Mason to get it dropped.
One Flew Over...
I just found this channel and I cannot stop watching... It is absolutely wonderful antology of what I would call a "human condition". I love commentary as well as personal stories sprinkled here and there :))
Considering the publicity this incident has had, it might be hard to find jurors who haven't heard about or seen it
Good thing that particular crime is on tape 😊
I worked in community mental health for nearly a decade. Many of these folks will not comply with treatment - they don't take their meds, they are drug/alcohol abusers, thier case workers are chasing them all over four counties, and they are a general pain in the ass to the community. Being mentally ill is not a free pass for acting out or being violent. Unfortunately the way ITA laws work is that the moment this person shows any sort orientation, and can convince a judge he is in some sort of degree of sound mind, he is back out on the streets. Three months later, he is back in custody. Released again. Repeat x300. This is why the court system and medical system are broken. Lock this guy up, and give him treatment in the prison wing of a state mental hospital. I live in a major city where the everyday folks are being run ragged by these individuals. And from what I am seeing, the entire country is being run ragged by them.
My only time on jury, when we went to sentencing the person. Near half only wanted to give the minimum, the other near half only wanted to give maximum. I kept telling them it's a suggestion and compromise and do middle. After FOUR hours the judge asked us what's going on, after hearing that he sent us home. I yelled at the group outside that we could have gone home three hours earlier if they would have listened to me. SMH.
Man was used to judges being leniant, hope he enjoys 30+ years in prison.
What was the original charge? 30 is a long time.
Vegas ain’t lenient
@@clemfandango5908 to his demographic they are. It's a blue jurisdiction. FACT
Regardless of mental illness. I think the way the justice system runs. He's going to go to prison for a long time.
"I dont think sending him to prison will help" Him? Maybe not. But sometimes we need to imprison people for the rest of us. We are seeing here in California what the dangers are of just letting them roam the streets. Sorry, but life ain't fair
I think the idea would be to get them help while also protecting the public. Something other than prison or walkibng the streets. There’s something pretty damn worng with putting sick people into prison. We’re willing to pay for his incarceration, why not medical help? Out of sight out of mind I suppose.
Why not just make Capital Punishment Great Again?
@@balsqueak How do we know his family was telling the truth about his having mental illness? Lot of grifters out there.
@@balsqueakwhat's wrong with a society saying, and coming to the conclusion "We don't this guy in our society anymore"?
and theres definitely something wrong with turning obviously dangerous people free to prey on the public.@@balsqueak
She’s only sentencing him for the previous charges she was going over before he attacked her 🫣💆🏾♀️🤷🏾♀️ she can’t do the case for him attacking her 💯 CONFLICT of INTEREST, he will go before another judge for this. I work in mental health Courts and most of these people are criminals, mental health behavior. I hate the fact that people keep stating (they) were off their medication. Well 🤷🏾♀️ get their medication before they are completely out 💆🏾♀️🤦🏽♀️
Or force them to take their meds, perhaps. The whole concept of forced medication is kind of icky, where do lines get drawn and who holds the pencil? Tis a puzzlement.
You work in mental health, and are surprised that they don’t make the rational decision to reorder their medications before they run out?
He not only jumped the bench, he jumped out of the frying pan and into the fire!
That law clerk came to work ready!
Defense lawyer: "Look at her up there, all high and mighty. I bet you could take a swing or two, teach her a lesson."
Perp: "Rokay raggy! Reeeheeeheeeheeee! ROOBY ROOO!"
Just my warped sense of humor.
CNN, PBS, NPR, etc: it was just a mostly peaceful protest by a well meaning unarmed black man.
LEEERRROOYYY Jenkins
It gets crazier. His family is blaming everyone but him for his choice to attack the judge. Now we know why he is the way he is, nobody has ever stood up to his abuse until now.
If this person was in trouble in Finland, they would get help for their medical problems and criminal reoffences would probably stop.
Flying without a license?😊
Flip Wilson would say: "The Devil made him do it!"
Mental PROBLEMS, not "issues."
His arraignment today indicated that he would be getting another public defender.
The hearing was very short. I watched it on our Nevada Judges. This guy is a menace. Most folks don’t know, but schizophrenics are rarely violent, but those who are violent, are prone to just This type of sudden eruptive violent acts.
I think that a more salient question would be, should garden variety criminals have to be subjected to dealing with such individuals within the penal system….🤔🤔
Well, that judge just sent him up.
It's called "Explosive combative / disruptive " behavior .
Yeah, different types of schizophrenia, I’ve known several very gentle people with it who seemed quite “normal” to me and if they hadn’t told me I never would have known. Bipolar is a different animal, I had a dance partner with it and he always was a bit off, but still behaved normally…..until one time a friend asked him to do something, like move his chair a few inches because his was in the dance floor, and he erupted in rage screaming and waving his arms in a very threatening manner. I was stunned as we all were. That was pretty much the end of that. He asked to meet in a public place to talk a week or so later, but he was acting strange and wanted to move in with me, either that or if I would give him a huge chunk of money. I declined and left. I feel bad for him (and anyone with mental illness) because no one asks for it, just like I never asked for near-daily or daily migraines, but I don’t take it out on people, and not to be self righteous but I take my meds and do what my dr’s tell me, like most people.
@@libbylandscape3560 take your meds?
Man made it on to the most wanted list... of the NBA!
Maybe NFL, that was on par with Barry Saunders going over the line of scrimmage at the goal line.
Yep lots of high jumping KFC customers in that industry
Mental health treatment in the US is massively overpriced and most insurance will not cover it. For someone who is poor, unable to work, they get less resources to help them deal with their condition. The US is by far the worst developed country in taking care of their most vulnerable and broken people. They much rather give massive financial breaks and generous supports to the super rich.
I think what is needed is a system that allows judges to sentence criminals with known mental diagnosis to a mental facility even if they are competent to stand trial. a 10 year sentence in prison vs a 10 year sentence at a high security mental facility is the same thing as far as society is concerned but the latter actually having the potential for rehabilitation unlike the for profit prisons of America
The deinstitutionalisation that occurred during the 60s and 70s was a great disservice to society. There were of course gross human rights violations that occurred in those institutions, but they should have reformed them, not done away with them. The people who would be locked away in those institutions today are either now in jail waiting to be let back on the streets to cause more harm, or on the streets where they are a danger to society and will end up back in jail. They were better off before, even considering those human rights violations, and society was certainly better off. That's why we didn't have mass shootings in school like we do today. That's why kids were allowed to run around the neighborhood from dawn till dusk back then.
I was a 70’s kid. I rode around on my bike miles from home from 9am to 7pm.
It sounds like a good theory, but decades later in the late nineties kids like me still wandered around as much as we wanted. There's no way something which changed in the 70s had that long of a delay.
Yep. In the early 70’s my sister and her husband (Bruce) lived in a halfway house as (I’m using the wrong word here) supervisors for the mental patients who were slowly being integrated into society. It was part of my bil’s uni program where they stayed for a year, making sure the patients got their meds, were back by curfew, solved any minor tiffs btwn patients, etc. It was going quite well until one of the patients, as it turned out, stopped taking his meds just was pretending to, and one day in the kitchen quite out of the blue grabbed a huge knife and stabbed Bruce in the stomach for some unknown reason. Fortunately they got Bruce to the hospital in time and saved his life. They caught the patient and returned him to the institution. When they did change the law and closed all the mental institutions, that patient was released along with all the others. His reason for stopping his meds was that he was feeling good and didn’t think he needed them any more.
@@GamesFromSpace Columbine happened in the 90s. It wasn't as safe as you think. The delay was in parents understanding the danger.
@@Noneofyourbusiness2000 Manson happened in the sixties, so columbine is a pointless argument.
I wonder if there is a bidding war going on for that particular law clerk.
Orange mitts? How humiliating and damning!
I saw him in the recent update. He had a Hannibal like bite/spit mask on along with adult size mittens like they give a newborn to keep them from scratching on along with a stun belt.
😂
The photo is right under this video as I am watching your post on TH-cam.
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He didn't decide to jump over the bench, he flew over that desk.
This is what happens when you are told all of your life by Politicians and community activists you are not responsible for your own actions, that you always have someone else to blame.
PS: If I remember correctly, one of his relatives stated that he was off his meds. That is one of the big problems, they do get help, they get prescribed meds and then they stop taking them. Frankly I think the public needs to be protected from crazy people...now if we can just figure out how to apply that to congress....
Ending qualified immunity?
🤣🤣🤣
Yeah. Everything that could be shackled was shackled including chains from his ankle chains to his wrist chains; spit/bite mask & mittens on his hands; and cops EVERYWHERE!
I've always had this sort of thing come up when dealing with parents and their kids at the grocery store. The kid will do something crazy and the parent will just shrug and be all like, "Kids will be kids". And like, yes, kids will be kids, but, if you know you're kid acts like that? Well, then it is your responsibility as a parent to stop them, because you are the responsible one in that situation. In this case, it is an adult with mental issues, however, the parent shrugged it off and blamed it on his mental health. Sure, that is a valid excuse for why he did it. What is not valid, is the fact that he has been allowed to continue putting others at risk. Now, the US sucks for health care, especially mental health. There might have been no legitimate way for them to have gotten him proper care. But that isn't what they went on about. They talked about how when he is on his meds, he's fine (plus some nonsense about the bailiff doing it to himself). That's the problem though! If he is fine while on his meds, why are there so many things in his record? I have to assume either he isn't actually fine while on his meds or he is in a situation where he can just go off his meds. At that point? Him going off his meds is on him or those responsible for making sure he remembers. Might there be a problem with the supply of his medication? Maybe. But then it is their responsibility to either figure out a way to handle that or keep him and others safe until more meds are available. The worst part? If supply is the problem? There probably is no solution. They likely don't have the money for any solution that does exist. After all, right now a ton of people are going into work despite being sick because they can not afford to miss a day of work and I'm sure this guy isn't exactly doing better.
A lot of contradictions there.
So is it his fault he is mentally ill or the parent's fault? I'm interested in whether I should blame my parents for my cancer diagnosis.
Is what the parents opined about relevant? Does that have anything to do with his jumping the bench? Or is the fact that when he is on his medication he is fine relevant? Which leads into the question, was he getting his meds while in the County jail? And, if he wasn't getting his meds, isn't the jail partially responsible for the attack?
@@alanmcentee9457 No one is to blame for his mental health diagnosis. However, what the parent opined about is important. She stated that while on his meds, he is fine. However, he has a long record and thus either he isn't actually fine while on the meds or he is fine on the meds, but for some reason would go off his meds. This has a few broad possiblities. 1) people decided he was responsible enough to monitor his own med intake (despite the fact that at this point we have proof he is not). 2) he can't always get his meds, whether because of cost or availability. 3) the meds only help so much (because it is quite possible that sometimes his brain goes off balance even if he is regularly taking the meds).
If the situation is 1, then when it was noticed that he was not responsible enough to stay on his meds by himself, someone needed to step forward to make sure he did. Depending on how young he was or if he still stayed with them, his parents are the first likely people to carry this responsibility. Admittedly, with his criminal record, I'm somewhat surprised he didn't have some court ordered person that he needed to check in with every once in a while to confirm he is on his meds. It seems like a sensible thing to order for a parole or similar. (Edit: and if as an adult it was decided no one but himself was responsible for his meds, well, apparently he was fine while on them and this one assumes he had a steady access to the meds meaning it is all his responsibility)
If the situation is 2, well, sucks to be him. The US healthcare situation is broken and he is a victim of it. No one to blame directly, with one caveat. If he is unable to afford his meds not because he can't, but because he is irresponsible with his money? Well, then responsibility falls completely on him. Because at some point he will have been on his meds and yet he decided to spend the money needed for said meds on other things.
If the situation is 3 (and I admit there are probably other situations, I just can't think of them off the top of my head), well, sucks to be him. The US healthcare situation is broken and he is a victim of it, maybe. If it is known that the meds aren't completely effective, there is a chance he could have worked with whoever prescribed the meds to try and find different meds that do a better job. Though this is a painful process and it is entirely possible that they've already done this and his current meds are the best they've found. Depending on his situation and whether he is able to recognize when the meds are starting to fail we have a nasty chain of potential responsibilities.
And as for whether the jail was providing his meds? Well, that is something his new lawyer will have to determine. If this turns out to be the case, then he might even get off to some extent as the lawyer would likely be able to argue the attack was not his fault, but rather the jails negligence. Of course, there are all kinds of possibilities here. Take two possibilities. Did the jail know he needed meds? Were the meds available? You might think those two give you four possibilities ranging from the jail not knowing and them not being available to them knowing and them being available. However, this isn't black and white, yes or no. What does "available" mean? where they in stock at the local pharmacy? Where they with the mom? Did the jail have them in stock? And did the jail just have him claiming to need the meds, proof from a doctor that he needed them, did the mom tell them he needed them and then him say he didn't? And all that doesn't even include possibilities such as him claiming he is taking them, but not actually taking them and is it the jails responsibility to make sure when he says he took them, that he did? I can see the coming nonsense for him being quite complex if it isn't a straightforward "He was getting his meds in jail".
Security in that courtroom was horrible. If I was acting as security, that guy wouldn't have made it over the judge's desk. I would have given him a football tackle because I would have positioned myself between the guy and the judge....always! For some reason, security had gotten complacent and security thought they were "just hanging around".
The problem was the security experienced deep staffing cuts over the year due to funding cuts. Hard to prevent such sudden violence if you lack the staff
@@ph11p3540 If you have a minimum of two, one is guarding the door and the other is in between the judge and the defendant.
Funding Cuts - A republican way of handing more taxcuts to the rich.
The bailiff was moving behind him to cuff him when the judge pronounced sentence. She didn't get that far.
Ben lying edge on on the Viper hood; screen left, Steve’s right
Congratulations. I missed this tough challenge.
Ben Hundo''s riding on the hood of the red Viper (top shelf, left)
This comment section is being live curated hard right now.
I would expect the defense counsel to ask the court, in chambers, to excuse him as a witness because he is not an essential witness and, under the circumstances, it would be unseemly for him to testify. After that I would expect him to ask the court to relieve him as counsel and appoint new counsel.
I actually agree with this. In this context, with other witnesses and video, making his defense attorney testify would be more prejudicial than it is probative.
"Punches were thrown".... In court, if they got to come get you they're going to bring a beating!
That's one sick boy.
What happens next is people get attacked on the way in to court😂
I am curious, if an individual had been well behaved in their interviews leading to a sentencing report suggesting they were not likely to cause future problems then they pulled a stunt like this what would happen? If their actions at sentencing were to clearly contradict the sentencing report would the judge be allowed to deviate from the report recommendations or ask for a revised report? Or would they still get a low sentence for the original crimes and just get harsher sentencing on the new crimes?
He should have hired Sgt Schultz as his attorney
That leap was something I’ve seen on National Geographic
I would think she'd be able to attach contempt of court charges against him which doesn't require a trial.
Is that Ben laying on top of the MCL next to Steves left ear?
No, it is very deceptive. Ben is on the bonnet of the Viper.
@@idristaylor5093 ur right! That's a tough one!
The guy thought that by pleading guilty he would be sent free. When he realised he was going to jail he "felt betrayed" and... essentially PROVED the judge was wrong, and should have given him the maximum from the get-go.
Brilliant mind this *Deobra Redden*
Approaching the bench etiquette classes may be best for this defendant 😮
He may get in one of those snickers commercials where they say "not going anywhere for awhile"
Steve Lehto: one of the few TH-camrs who pronounces Nevada correctly!
So very sorry for the loss of your friend from down under.
Someone please Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't the Supreme Court ruled a long time ago that you can't force someone to undergo treatment for mental health issues. I remember that a lot of people that were in mental hospitals were released back into communities with instructions to continue therapy on an outpatient basses, very few did, and they for the most part were the original "homeless" and it went downhill from there.
Exactly. This pretty much ended public mental health for those that truly need it.
People with bi-polar, schizophrenia, and similar mental desires simply do not think they are sick. And the second they return to their rational mind, and their episode is over, they check themselves out and leave.
I kind of remember St. Ronnie of Raygun saying that community organizations and treatment would take care of those folks. For the most part the resources never materialized.
@@raygunsforronnie847 St. Ronnie did indeed say things like that. The process of deinstitutionalization started long before he took office, however. A trivial effort with a search engine finds citations back to the end of the 1950s.The details vary by state but California saw the state hospital population drop from over 37,000 in 1959 to about 2,000 in 1967, when he became governor. His administrations, both state and national, worked to further reduce public spending on mental health.
@@jerrylohr3491 You may note that I did not assign blame to Reagan (as many incorrectly do). I merely noted that he was "spokes-face" for the suggestion that care would be available at that point in time and that communities largely failed, for whatever reasons, to meet the need.
That dude flew over that bench. Full on Superman
But all the video angles and witnesses the dude will be in prison for decades.
Free Legal Advice: Do not represent yourself with your fists.
Do they ever actually use a hand truck to bring the super crazy people into court?
With many witnesses in the courtroom, why would they call his attorney?
I listened to the family’s interview. It was sad to hear his mental diagnosis, that he had medication while in jail, but did not receive any upon his release. The soonest he could get an appointment for his medication was into March!
I seen the video when he was brought in to court with all that Steve said , They should of brought him in a chair chained up too. . How much time will he get for attacking a Judge , I would think many years behind bars .
Awesome RCMP shirt Steve!
I wonder if his leap was to "lean in" to the insanity plea?
In Kentucky, we are trying out a Mental Health Court, where defendants with mental health issues who have committed crimes are referred.
He will probably take a plea deal for 10 years or something.
Okay, so maybe he has mental health issues, maybe not. But why is the public at large expected to be victimized by criminals like this. The courts coddle criminals that claim mental defects. We as innocent people suffer.
Yeah, he sure looks coddled in that full restraint gear.
@@GamesFromSpace. He did that to himself.
Just remember we all walk a thin line on mental stability. How would you rather have places that can help and treat people or would you want to be sent to prison because of an accident to your head?
And would you do the same to your wife or kids if they had mental problems. Send them off to prison if they didn't take meds or have him do the same to you?
@Jblaze024 I'll tell you where I'm coming from. In my youth, I was a short, skinny guy. I was tormented by bullying in school. When I was home, I was scoffed at and ridiculed by my own family . I was labeled as stupid in school because of my bad grades. I lived in a horrible neighborhood. If you didn't belong to a gang, you were a target. I hung out with the only people who would have me. We did drugs and stole whatever we could get our hands on. I was robbed at gun point several times.
I was raised around psychopaths. It turns out I wasn't stupid. Children do bad in school when they are bullied every day. I was smart enough to separate myself from that life. Yea, maybe I'm a jerk for not having sympathy for psychopaths and drug addicts. I give the same sympathy I was given my entire life.
Since you brought up family. How would you feel if a narcissistic psychopath drove his car through a parade and killed your 10 year old boy. How would you feel if you found out the court gave this child raping wife beating animal chance after chance. Then, he ultimately kills 6 innocent people and injured 70 more.
Thank God judges are treated differently. Most important people to protect. Let's give this a like.
Didnt see the hundred however, I did spot the coin on the book...Is that a silver eagle? :)
7 counts of felony assault on a protected person in Nevada can result up to 10 years prison per offence and sentences can be consecutive if found guilty on 2 or more charges.
He is screwed. There is little for the defense to argue, its all on camera.
The Judge received a charge, and now the guy is getting several.
Unfortunately, you hit it on the head when you talked about mental health. I have a relative diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia, and the fact is they will look you right in the face and say the radio news is talking to her directly. And they will not see anything wrong with this. The only reason they get any help is because our family forces it on them.
This guy obviously did not have that, or perhaps even the means to get it. It is so easy to say 'oh he should get help' but the reality is, where? From who?
Mental health is far from free, and the United States ended state sponsored mental health in the 80's when asylums were ended. Now the few that are left are filled beyond capacity, where they exist at all.
And even if you do manage to be able to find a spot in a mental health facility, unless there is a court order, they can just check themselves out no matter what the doctor says, and they will, because they really believe nothing is wrong.
So this is what happens.
Largest mental health provider in the USA: DOCs!
Defendant: *leaps and tackles the judge* "I am the judge now!" (meme)
This is how to upgrade from 19 months to 19 years.
He didn't TRY to leap
He super man over the damn thing
Nothing but air
As I listen to this, less than an hour after it was put up, I am seeing how the thumbs up numbers going up quickly. It was 714 when I started, it's now 814.
He didn't think that out too good. 😂
I'm surprised the judge doesn't keep an extra large gavel behind the bench to deter people from entering her space.
Too many chances....
We give our Gov't Too many chances
"Evil and has an out for me" ... yup that sounds like schizophrenia alright, my mom had it and thankfully she was never violent but she did have habits and tendencies that showed up whenever she wasn't taking her meds which made her act like a completely different person, everyone was evil to the point some people actually started "growing devil horns".
If the guy in this story doesn't have meds that are effective and he's just constantly untreated he's probably going to be what the doctors call "deranged" and his attorney should have absolutely used the insanity defense because this situation is exactly what that defense is there for, the man needs to be in a psychiatric ward where he can get treatment not in prison.
Sending him to prison may not help the man, but it would protect the rest of us.
One has to wonder if he has needed to be institutionalized rather than jailed on tax payer money.
There's a fine line between being a thug and being criminally insane. Whether prison or institution, the primary goal ought to be to protect the rest of us. This guy is clearly beyond any "help."
Society needs to be protected from this monster. IMHO he should stay in jail or a mental health facility for the rest of his life.
Now, who else remembers an old Mad Magazine (or a related publication) cartoon about a crime committed in a baseball stadium in front of 50,000 witnesses, and the prosecutor, determined to finally beat defense attorney Perry Mason, announces that he will call all the witnesses in alphabetical order: "Anthony A. Aardvark, take the stand please."
For most human beings, visuals are ALWAYS more compelling than verbal descriptions, partly because the verbal must be translated into imagery in the receiver's mind.
An grande display, mes amis,
of athleticism, leaping the bench...what ?
How can he be granted bail if he was there for sentencing and is already serving his sentence. I'm not a lawyer, I'm curious how that works.