Not that conserve when he kill 4th Z base and start his 4th base but when he attack 2nd Z base he lose 1 reever and see 5lukers wait for his zealots heavy army so he force to pull back.
17:46 Yeah Lurkers have a ranged attack, but since the spines damage everything in a line, Lurkers are still fantastic to put under Dark Swarms, because the Dark Swarm does not mitigate splash/area damage. Siege tank shots also damage units under Dark Swarm - I think just the target unit is immune, while all the units alongside take the splash.
I really appreciate you doing these SC:BW cast but please work on your observer-skills. It's so frustating to watch you when comeplely miss alot of things. Look at the minimap man.
I playing through the broodwar campaign right now I’m on the Zerg campaign around halfway through and yea guardians are pretty good I usually just mass zerglings with their upgrades as quick as I can
@@nizdeniz well even so, it's interesting how the apm just happened to be 317 exact for both players. They were moving the same exact speed. Interesting.
Zerg units are mostly faster than Protoss ones, while Zerg buildings on the other hand, are dependent on Hatchery's creep. So Zerg players tend to place their expo far away in ZvP matchup, then they still have the mobility to defend it at early stage and secure 4th expansion later. By contrast, in ZvT matchup, if T goes for bio army, which is almost as mobile as Zerg army, Z players tend to expand slowly and get it near the main base to protect it at early game. Later on, when they reach defiler tech + mass lurkers, Z player can defend bases much more easily to get the needed gases for Ultralisk. Then build the death ball and crush the T's bases here and there with that ultimately mobile, high dps, highly armored army. That's the metagame.
I've really been enjoying these Brood War casts, it gets me nostalgic for the older game! After watching quite a few of them, I've noticed a lack of mirror matchups (PvP, ZvZ, TvT) Is this because these games are not as common? Or do they tend to not be as good of games for casting? I was just curious what Brood War mirror matches looked like , as I've started to get an understanding of the "usual" compositions that occur in the other match ups.
Ah, good to know! I would certainly be interested in seeing a few of those just for the variety, but you are the caster and have to watch many more games than I do as a viewer, I am certainly enjoying these other matchups regardless
I'm glad your casting and giving us a little extra BW. I think you could do a little more chat about the strategic position between events. What's the current strategic position. Who is the pressure on? What's the base count? You might know about the comps but maybe make a guess about perks. Zealot Archon is pretty mobile and zealots hurt but they arent goign to break those sim cities. Just a little too much filler.
KAL just ran out of money man, it wasn't premature. Zerg won when it destroyed Protoss expansion at 11'o clock. At that point protoss was squeezing everything to kill 6'o clock hatchery. It failed therefore they lost.
The power of Zerg showed once again in BW. 30+ drones killed, 3 mining hatches killed, 25+ overlords killed, & 3/4 of the army wiped out several times, & some how the Zerg is able to stay in the game & win with unlimited dark swarm/plague. Other races lose 1 base & half the army once & it’s over lol
Absolutely deserves the EPIC tag. Jaedong had his back against the wall - with supply blocking and losing a couple of Hatches - GooJila keep expanding, as someone mention following a conservative strategy. Still Goojila working his was to max out, and having a well balanced army. AWESOME stuff!
Goojila was a fool and a noob for not winning this. He had won as early as having corsairs and being able to perma-supply block Jaedong constantly. The only thing he needed to do at the time to win right there and then was just directly fly his corsairs into Jaedong's main and execute all the overlords, even at the potential cost of losing some of his corsairs. The Overlords were all so nicely clumped together, he would have killed them in a few secs. 9:30 - that's where it all could have ended right then and there. Even still, afterwards he had plenty of opportunities to finish it, being 50+ supply above Jaedong and he wasted them all. Noob.
This one takes the cake... at one point Jaedong was down 61 vs 120 supply. I actually wasn't sure he could recover for a minute there :) He routinely wins after having 2/3 the supply of his opponent, but I don't remember him doing that after having 1/2. Jaedong... doesn't add up :)
Goojila had a window during his first major attack at Jeodong's natural expansion. Why did he pull away after taking out the buildings blocking the expansion? Getting yourself into the late game with the Jaedong is asking for defeat.
Its a little funny hearing you talking about how you only do a few brood war casts a week. You do one every day now right? Your channel must have really grown i hope that feels cool.
Carriers have 8 launch range/12 leash range, and BC Yamato shots also outrange them. But unlike capital ships, Guardians can sit there all day and pound away without exposing Interceptors to AA fire or waiting for energy. So yeah, I agree: Guardians are excellent choices, once those Corsairs were cleaned up. For some reason the pro's never use them. Too expensive for DPS output maybe?
please try to focus on the game play and stop rattling away. you always miss out on the fights because you dont pay attention to the mini map where 2 different colors engage. for example 10:50. noticed this many times in your videos, especially during the mid to third quarter game.
10:49 are you kidding me, you saw the attack coming, still you talk nonsense and zoom elsewhere. I mean its on the minimap, you see the numbers go down... awfull
@@FalconPaladin no,because i thing that nobody stream broodwar...i play sc like 15 years and it continue....this is good critic for you...i told you that you miss so many things on mini map,on bases,action just fix that 🙂
@@FalconPaladin i know that you doing...keep your eyes open dont miss crucial things 🙂 and watch mini map every 2-3 sec...like when you play ...i wish you all the best and to your channel...and sorry about my english...i learn it alone 🙂
Jaedong's gameplay is boring always the same thing, scout with zerlings, make a second and third base then lurkers it's pretty much the same everytime he plays after the first 10 minutes are over that's when it changes a bit but it the exact same routine everytime he is lame I like flash and bisu better they at least change it up every now and then
protoss is too strong!!! change zealot to hp 40/40 damage 12, dragon hp 60/40 damage 10, psi storm cost 200 mana, reaver damage 35, with upgrade 45, nerf arbitre
They're supposed to be strong! They're expensive as Hell and they have a tough time fighting Zerg in a war of attrition, which is exactly what happened here. Did you watch the game till the end?
marine cost 50, hp 40, dmg 6. zealot cost 100, hp should be 40/40, dmg 12. What we have right now is way too OP. Tough time fighting zerg? storm everywhere, reaver/corsair combo, dark archon kills defilers with feedback for just 50 mana.
Bw, Jaedong, Falcon... OH YEEEEEEAAAAAAHH!
Anyone else thinks that BroodWar is more entertaining to watch than SC2?
Me
i get lost in all the health bars in SC2. They should make a mode where you cant see health bars haha.
Me
I am a Korean starcraft player, and I really appreciate to you because I always have wanted to learn English, than You make this Perfect contents!
Goojilla played way too conservative when he could have overwhelmed JD mid-game. Good cast, Falcon: it's tough casting solo
Not that conserve when he kill 4th Z base and start his 4th base but when he attack 2nd Z base he lose 1 reever and see 5lukers wait for his zealots heavy army so he force to pull back.
Hey, guys! I heard you need a detec... oh...
For example Stop showing us floating observer when the reaver drop happens.
You were also focusing on the DT's cape at 10:55 while there a huge engagement of corsairs/overlords/scourge at the bottom.
Yes
Could you find more replays of TvT, ZvZ or PvP? Even if they arent the top of the heap pro's. Its fun to watch.
Love these vids Falcon! Keep it up!
Okay! I will! Thanks for watching. :)
Btw, this is JM4ND1NG0 from Twitch!
@@fireflymetotheblack Ohhhhh! Good to know. :)
Since I follow your channel, Jaedong has not lost a single game yet
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17:46 Yeah Lurkers have a ranged attack, but since the spines damage everything in a line, Lurkers are still fantastic to put under Dark Swarms, because the Dark Swarm does not mitigate splash/area damage. Siege tank shots also damage units under Dark Swarm - I think just the target unit is immune, while all the units alongside take the splash.
3 brood war casts a week!? Finally! Im good with 4 as well... :)
I really appreciate you doing these SC:BW cast but please work on your observer-skills. It's so frustating to watch you when comeplely miss alot of things. Look at the minimap man.
SCDJMU agreed!!
Knew goojila better as KAL back when I was watching OSL. Glad to see he’s still playing games!
Your commentary is excellent, but damn, check the mini map every once in a while. You're missing a LOT of action.
I playing through the broodwar campaign right now I’m on the Zerg campaign around halfway through and yea guardians are pretty good I usually just mass zerglings with their upgrades as quick as I can
can the defiler consume air units too?
I found it insane how they each had the same exact apm. I've never seen that b4.
practice match, not really trying i think..
@@nizdeniz well even so, it's interesting how the apm just happened to be 317 exact for both players. They were moving the same exact speed. Interesting.
You are by far the best commentator for StarCraft. Always enjoy your videos!
Hey, thank you. :)
10:50 why in the world are you looking at dt's when the corsairs are literally in jaedong's base...makes no sense
Exactly. That got me very annoyed too.
"That yellow DT looks pretty hot"
Can anyone explain why the Zerg expanded so far away from the main base at the beginning?
It allows him to secure two bases instead of just one, depending on the map.
I see. I am more used to SC2 so it doesn't make any sense to me. :P
Nice cast by the way. I just found your channel and really like it.
Zerg units are mostly faster than Protoss ones, while Zerg buildings on the other hand, are dependent on Hatchery's creep. So Zerg players tend to place their expo far away in ZvP matchup, then they still have the mobility to defend it at early stage and secure 4th expansion later. By contrast, in ZvT matchup, if T goes for bio army, which is almost as mobile as Zerg army, Z players tend to expand slowly and get it near the main base to protect it at early game. Later on, when they reach defiler tech + mass lurkers, Z player can defend bases much more easily to get the needed gases for Ultralisk. Then build the death ball and crush the T's bases here and there with that ultimately mobile, high dps, highly armored army. That's the metagame.
@@duyanhhoang5211 Thanks! That's very detailed.
3X broodwar what what!! awesome Falcon!
I've really been enjoying these Brood War casts, it gets me nostalgic for the older game!
After watching quite a few of them, I've noticed a lack of mirror matchups (PvP, ZvZ, TvT)
Is this because these games are not as common? Or do they tend to not be as good of games for casting?
I was just curious what Brood War mirror matches looked like , as I've started to get an understanding of the "usual" compositions that occur in the other match ups.
They are not as popular as the non-mirror matchups. Also TvT boils down to massive tank lines, then wraiths after 30 minutes. Meh.
Ah, good to know!
I would certainly be interested in seeing a few of those just for the variety, but you are the caster and have to watch many more games than I do as a viewer, I am certainly enjoying these other matchups regardless
Goojila could finish it early, so scared to attack attack.
what a great cast! love to see a zerg victory :D
Seemed like Goojila had anxiety about going in to attack. Maybe intimidated by the fact he was facing off against Jaedong
They are macro hatches, they are used specifically for production.
One again, the more brood war is greatly appreciated!
I'm glad your casting and giving us a little extra BW. I think you could do a little more chat about the strategic position between events. What's the current strategic position. Who is the pressure on? What's the base count? You might know about the comps but maybe make a guess about perks. Zealot Archon is pretty mobile and zealots hurt but they arent goign to break those sim cities.
Just a little too much filler.
Great come back!
KAL just ran out of money man, it wasn't premature. Zerg won when it destroyed Protoss expansion at 11'o clock. At that point protoss was squeezing everything to kill 6'o clock hatchery. It failed therefore they lost.
Is the speed messed up on this one Falcon?
Probably for a bit at least. :)
Don't worry about whether Macro Hatch is an existing term. Either way, it's a fine identifier.
Nobody makes comebacks like Jaedong...
The sunken finished the reaver the zergling helped a lot too though
Oh wow, Gojira had a really good shot to finish Jaedong around 17th minute. You don't give Jaedong that much respect.
I would say he had a 50/50 shot. Still better than the result he got in the end
Did Gooo throw the game? Some questionable decisions made on his part but GG anyway
"you don't tell that story when you come back as a dragoon do you" LOL
Thanks Paladin. Jae is best)
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The power of Zerg showed once again in BW. 30+ drones killed, 3 mining hatches killed, 25+ overlords killed, & 3/4 of the army wiped out several times, & some how the Zerg is able to stay in the game & win with unlimited dark swarm/plague.
Other races lose 1 base & half the army once & it’s over lol
Goojila still playing? Its a currently replay?
This is an older replay.
fantastic
Absolutely deserves the EPIC tag. Jaedong had his back against the wall - with supply blocking and losing a couple of Hatches - GooJila keep expanding, as someone mention following a conservative strategy. Still Goojila working his was to max out, and having a well balanced army. AWESOME stuff!
Glad you enjoyed it. :)
17:20 was like a choreography good game
Goojila was a fool and a noob for not winning this. He had won as early as having corsairs and being able to perma-supply block Jaedong constantly.
The only thing he needed to do at the time to win right there and then was just directly fly his corsairs into Jaedong's main and execute all the overlords, even at the potential cost of losing some of his corsairs. The Overlords were all so nicely clumped together, he would have killed them in a few secs. 9:30 - that's where it all could have ended right then and there.
Even still, afterwards he had plenty of opportunities to finish it, being 50+ supply above Jaedong and he wasted them all. Noob.
22:39 Cast the battle please.
this was a good video. cause iw atched the whole !@#$king way. lol
Good end,
thanks.
You're welcome. :)
11:22 This guy climb back from 65/14 unit vs 120/139 unit...to win the game.
There is one annoying thing in your videos - you nearly always off the field where something interesting happens.
this game was just too much.
we can make a game out of it - how many times did u pause the falcon bw cast by clicking on the minimap?
Haven't you cast this before or is this just deja vu?
So I have a pack of Jaedong v Goojila matches that were all played on Aztec. This one is new, but I can see how there's some confusion. :)
Please do some Warcraft II! That sounds great
That slowling ran like speedlings haha
10:48 WTF why would you randomly click away from that overlord massacre to admire how "hot" a dark templar is?
This one takes the cake... at one point Jaedong was down 61 vs 120 supply. I actually wasn't sure he could recover for a minute there :) He routinely wins after having 2/3 the supply of his opponent, but I don't remember him doing that after having 1/2.
Jaedong... doesn't add up :)
he had him there.
Yeah, he threw it.
Im glad ur here, cuz Husky sure as hell left US!!
:) Happy you're here, too.
Like more than half of all these brood war replays are zvp, no terran love?
TvZ coming Thursday. :)
Bw ultralisks are so baller. They move so fast.
Weird game!?! Jeadong no muta use? And full tech at start. This is your better cast at this day! GG
Bit bored with Jaedong games because he spoils the fun by always winning
Falcon must not have casted too many games with Jae Dong vs. Flash. ;)
+dochmbi Shut up Infamous Bitch!
did you watch KSL recently lol JD got fucked
@5:44 - it's actually 4th hatch, but nvm
Very nice game! I thought Goojila will win this game.
Thank you Falcon
No problem!
why they never teching corsair web? make like 10 dragoons + web and you easy win on like 120-140 soply after 3d against this lame sim city
I can't believe that it's jaedong that played the game. The zerg was really weak.
Every video I watch, they all have the same problem... Nobody prepares air defense.
Goojila had a window during his first major attack at Jeodong's natural expansion. Why did he pull away after taking out the buildings blocking the expansion? Getting yourself into the late game with the Jaedong is asking for defeat.
wow very enjoyable this game
Its a little funny hearing you talking about how you only do a few brood war casts a week. You do one every day now right? Your channel must have really grown i hope that feels cool.
Only five times. :)
My dosbox started crashing a lot after awhile
3x a week Brood War? YOU GIVE THE PEOPLE WHAT THEY WANT
Wo wo wo wo wo wo wo, hold your dongs you meant?
No I think they’re both great.
Down with cheese toss!
Did you just call a dark templar hot? FALCON ARE YOU LOOSING YOUR MIND? ARE YOU OKAY? lol
:D
Press “F” to pay respects to the Probes :(
It always pains me to see when the protoss is up by so much supply and still loses to Larva or Jaedong or someone else that is zerg
This protoss is a turtle...
Still makes me sad to see no guardian play half the time. They honestly have the best range of any artillery unit.
Yup they ruin siege tanks.
Guardians, Reavers, and Carriers have the same attack range of 8. Siege Tanks have 10.
with that many corsairs?
Carriers have 8 launch range/12 leash range, and BC Yamato shots also outrange them. But unlike capital ships, Guardians can sit there all day and pound away without exposing Interceptors to AA fire or waiting for energy. So yeah, I agree: Guardians are excellent choices, once those Corsairs were cleaned up. For some reason the pro's never use them. Too expensive for DPS output maybe?
kal is the shit among those 6 best protoss
please try to focus on the game play and stop rattling away. you always miss out on the fights because you dont pay attention to the mini map where 2 different colors engage. for example 10:50. noticed this many times in your videos, especially during the mid to third quarter game.
Ese protoss regalo el juego a propósito
commentary on this game was painful
Good game
How'd I end up here? I literally have un-watched patron matches
Flash is my favorite.
10:49 are you kidding me, you saw the attack coming, still you talk nonsense and zoom elsewhere. I mean its on the minimap, you see the numbers go down... awfull
Losing his reavers too easy.
Aww yeah!
Protoss doesn’t know how to press an advantage. Too timid.
100k views!
I feel like goojila just threw this game. Throwing multiple double storms into empty spaces with other examples of poor micro. Shame.
Probe deekes
Now i see rivers are weak =)
! Likes b4 view, FP yet to fail! !
You reaction is really slow man....you dont watch mini map,pls fix that,because if you upload a starcraft matches you must see ALL
Can you point me to someone else on TH-cam who solo casts Brood War, including camera work, and is nailing it? Thanks.
@@FalconPaladin no,because i thing that nobody stream broodwar...i play sc like 15 years and it continue....this is good critic for you...i told you that you miss so many things on mini map,on bases,action just fix that 🙂
@@FalconPaladin i watch allmost all sc bw and sc 2 matches from first progamers days 🙂
I'm doing my best. :)
@@FalconPaladin i know that you doing...keep your eyes open dont miss crucial things 🙂 and watch mini map every 2-3 sec...like when you play ...i wish you all the best and to your channel...and sorry about my english...i learn it alone 🙂
24 minutes to 28 you missed all the drops going on and ill just say at my best I was better than both of these players.
Lol
Jaedong's gameplay is boring always the same thing, scout with zerlings, make a second and third base then lurkers it's pretty much the same everytime he plays after the first 10 minutes are over that's when it changes a bit but it the exact same routine everytime he is lame I like flash and bisu better they at least change it up every now and then
protoss is too strong!!! change zealot to hp 40/40 damage 12, dragon hp 60/40 damage 10, psi storm cost 200 mana, reaver damage 35, with upgrade 45, nerf arbitre
They're supposed to be strong! They're expensive as Hell and they have a tough time fighting Zerg in a war of attrition, which is exactly what happened here. Did you watch the game till the end?
marine cost 50, hp 40, dmg 6. zealot cost 100, hp should be 40/40, dmg 12. What we have right now is way too OP. Tough time fighting zerg? storm everywhere, reaver/corsair combo, dark archon kills defilers with feedback for just 50 mana.
@@MrEbrilio marine hits air units zealots dont
@@SmokerFace12 zealot cant kill 4 marines in a row
@@MrEbrilio marine ranged zaelot melee
don't understand how someone could think this crap game and graphics are better than sc2