I never got really hot for the Sun machines. They are beautifully engineered and quick but everything was unnecessarily complicated until they were up and running. The last one I worked with was an M5000 and figuring out the XSCF commands for a basic setup was already a pain. Setting an IP address? 10 commands or so....
Old video but fantastic teardown. I bought one of these power supplies for a project and they are monstrous things. Sun even produced a system that had an almost identical PSU in it but with three 12v / 240 Amp rails as opposed to two as in the video. Each of these supplies is capable of drawing 16 Amps per supply at full load (on 230v), so with all 4 supplies at full load, that's 64 amps out of the mains!! Not that the thing would ever come close to those dizzy heights but purely hypothetically, it's possible. I pity the person who had to pay the bill 😂😂😂
Try and fathom the sheer amount of resources that went into just this ass'y alone.. Yet now it provides the pleasure of tearing down something built so properly, it can only be construed as art! Thank you again for showing we the few, abundantly interested people!
A vicious noise indeed! I'd hate to think what that sounds like close up, maybe a sound level monitor would be of use to get sound levels. I used to check the sound levels of some small machines I operated at a printers and most had to be under 80dB.
Built like a fridge, sounds like a plane, costs as much as a car, consumes as much power as my house when i charge my electric car and it has the power of two Rapberry-Pi 4s. I LOVE IT. Edit: What was that at 9:20 ?!
Lots and lots of fb-dimm pc2 memory, the only thing I hate about fb-dimm is that they get very hot without proper cooling. Would've been awesome to have those memory sticks in my barely used HP ML350 G5 server.
Yes, it's a free service in Switzerland. Or better, you pay for the recycling when you buy new electronic devices. Advanced recycling fee as it is called.
So, ive watched, i really like theese system teardown, theese systems were designed for reliability, not built for a specific price. The engineer team didnt spare on quality components and design hours. Im a second year ee student in Hungary and i would like to ask(if i remember correctly you live on Europe) if is there any way that you would send me some DC-DC converters if i pay you the postage, and what would i do with 400A@12V(but it really depends on the price)? I would also want the power supply but i think i dont wanna pay that much for shiping(oh geez it looks so fantastic) :D I am planning to specialize in DC-DC converters and power electronics and i can't get my hands on theese kind of quality stuff. Great video, i love theese teardowns :D
www.intel.com/Assets/en_US/PDF/designguide/321736.pdf Intel has some good documentation on VRMs (Voltage regulator Modules). These can be found in older XEON servers of almost any brand.
Did you remove the silver bars to see if the were solid. Do you strip the units to their component parts before recycling. Keep up the videos. Cheers Dave.
I checked them... it is silver plated copper. I don't see the sense in that because silver is a good conductor but it oxydises rapidly. Gold plated would make more sense especially for DC. I don't disassemble everything. Most systems go to scrap as they are. I just check for interesting parts.
I always wonder what the engineers who design this sort of thing think the first time they turn it on. If it was someone who'd never heard one, they'd have to be shocked at the volume level. Like the guys who designed MRI machines in a quiet office somewhere and heard it in operation.
Another very interesting video. „normal“ PCs look so crappy when you have seen this servers from the inside. What do you do with all the fans? I would be very interested in some powerfull server fans. Of course I would pay for the shipping or pick them up.
Feel free to send me any "junk" or computer scraps you have or don't want. I love looking at those kind of things and seeing how they work. Message me if you want to send any junk or scrap.
Those look like SATA cables to me (not SAS). SAS cables combine power and data into a single cable. Also, you need a minimum of three drives for RAID-5. Since they only had two in the system, they would have had to use either RAID-1, RAID-0, or a JBOD.
Your SAS cable theory is wrong. At least for servers, they always have separate power cables to the disks. SAS and SATA disks even have the same connector except a little notch that allows SATA disks to be plugged into SAS systems but not otherwise. Most SAS RAID controllers support SATA disks (or SSD). You just can not mix them in the same RAID volume. You're right, with only 2 disks a RAID-5 is not possible, so a RAID-5 card makes no sense it that server. But the board is also used in bigger models with 4 disks.....
Yes. You're right about the SAS power connection. I was thinking about the SFF-8482 connector, but technically even that uses separate cables. However, I do think the cables at 9:50 in the video are really SATA. I've never seen SAS cables that look like that and I can't find any online that do, either, unless those are proprietary to Oracle. By the way, I like your channel very much. I've been watching for a couple of years now and it's good content. I work in an HPE data center, so it's nice to see other company's stuff from time to time.
@@Primetime94 The T6320 blade supports SAS and SATA disks.... and it has space for 4 of them (RAID-5 is possible). In the video you see two drive bays with fillers on top and two empty drive slots at the bottom. The cable may look like a cheap PC cable but where's the difference? If it supports 3Gb SATA, it will also support 3Gb SAS. The cable does not care what protocol runs through it. And if the manufacturer provides the correct connectors at each end, no worries. :-)
$50,000 for that??? it is easily the worst example of an expensive professional system I have seen... (I mean the enclosure and powersupplies, the blades themselves are not so bad) I wonder why someone would buy this instead of some separate 1U/2U servers, especially when you have only 3 blades.
Blade servers make sense when you need many servers. If you only need 3 or 4 then you better buy standard rackmount models. The idea is, at least with HP Virtual Connect, that (if configured correctly) when you replace a server, nothing changes. The serial number, MAC adresses and other settings remain "in the slot". Wne you install a new server, it will take the config profile of the slot and everything is like before. Saves you a lot of re-configuration. Unfortunately most people use blader servers like traditional servers. Then there is no benefit...
@@PlaywithJunk Ok that sounds good. I have always used only 1U and 2U servers, lately mostly with VMware ESXi, and the hardware does not matter much in that case either. The VMs each keep their MAC etc when the hardware is changed. I think the HP, Dell and newer IBM blade systems you have shown on this channel look a lot better than this SUN box.
SUN / Oracle systems always have beautiful design.
As a former Sun employee I really miss the good old "SUN times". I installed, configured and fixed lots of these blade systems..
I never got really hot for the Sun machines. They are beautifully engineered and quick but everything was unnecessarily complicated until they were up and running. The last one I worked with was an M5000 and figuring out the XSCF commands for a basic setup was already a pain. Setting an IP address? 10 commands or so....
Rip Sun
Old video but fantastic teardown. I bought one of these power supplies for a project and they are monstrous things. Sun even produced a system that had an almost identical PSU in it but with three 12v / 240 Amp rails as opposed to two as in the video. Each of these supplies is capable of drawing 16 Amps per supply at full load (on 230v), so with all 4 supplies at full load, that's 64 amps out of the mains!! Not that the thing would ever come close to those dizzy heights but purely hypothetically, it's possible. I pity the person who had to pay the bill 😂😂😂
Try and fathom the sheer amount of resources that went into just this ass'y alone..
Yet now it provides the pleasure of tearing down something built so properly, it can only be construed as art! Thank you again for showing we the few, abundantly interested people!
I love the power supply :-)
it's wonderful
the removable design for those PSU fan units is super cool - professional audio amplifier manufacturers would do well to take a note of it !
I used to admin a few of those. Power on times were extremely long. Networking was hard to understand because there was a switch you had to configure.
SUN systems may be good when they are set up. But everything is more complicated as with other manufacturers.
You should get a sound level meter. That way we can put a number to these extremely loud systems.
A vicious noise indeed! I'd hate to think what that sounds like close up, maybe a sound level monitor would be of use to get sound levels.
I used to check the sound levels of some small machines I operated at a printers and most had to be under 80dB.
I wouldn't mind having a T3 system one of these days.
Ever got anything from EFPL or CERN?
EVERY time I watch your videos I cannot disprove how cool is your job and how shitty is mine.
Felice Mastronzo ahhahah il tuo nome è geniale
14.4kW Power on Average?!!!
Damn
I never know old stuff are power hungry asf
looks in excellent condition
New intro music, awesome.
Another great video! Thanks!
You can heat running water with that power output.
Built like a fridge, sounds like a plane, costs as much as a car, consumes as much power as my house when i charge my electric car and it has the power of two Rapberry-Pi 4s.
I LOVE IT.
Edit: What was that at 9:20 ?!
You mean "Aaaaarrghh"?
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@@PlaywithJunk Yes XD
@@PlaywithJunk By the way, have you read my email?
I have learnt a lots of tuition from you,good job done sir!
Lots and lots of fb-dimm pc2 memory, the only thing I hate about fb-dimm is that they get very hot without proper cooling. Would've been awesome to have those memory sticks in my barely used HP ML350 G5 server.
Those backplane cards are most certainly PCI Express.
Thanks for showing. Watched the WHOLE THING.
great video once again. But please be so kind and provide a link where you can get such a system for 200$? I was not able to find anything useable.
Would you mind selling those 8GB 5300F sticks? I have a couple of HP xw8600s that could use them.
Where does the parts go to? E-waste recycling?
Yes, it's a free service in Switzerland. Or better, you pay for the recycling when you buy new electronic devices. Advanced recycling fee as it is called.
So, ive watched, i really like theese system teardown, theese systems were designed for reliability, not built for a specific price. The engineer team didnt spare on quality components and design hours. Im a second year ee student in Hungary and i would like to ask(if i remember correctly you live on Europe) if is there any way that you would send me some DC-DC converters if i pay you the postage, and what would i do with 400A@12V(but it really depends on the price)? I would also want the power supply but i think i dont wanna pay that much for shiping(oh geez it looks so fantastic) :D I am planning to specialize in DC-DC converters and power electronics and i can't get my hands on theese kind of quality stuff. Great video, i love theese teardowns :D
Please contact me at playwithjunk at gmail.com... The power supply weighs 10kg (plus pakaging) which will cost 50-60 Euros to ship.
www.intel.com/Assets/en_US/PDF/designguide/321736.pdf
Intel has some good documentation on VRMs (Voltage regulator Modules). These can be found in older XEON servers of almost any brand.
Those mains terminals would have been slightly nicer if the neutral was next to the outer side of the case instead of live
this video dont show up in my feed at all, what the fuck youtube
that sound, my ears omg
how much is it worth now
Did you remove the silver bars to see if the were solid. Do you strip the units to their component parts before recycling.
Keep up the videos.
Cheers Dave.
I checked them... it is silver plated copper. I don't see the sense in that because silver is a good conductor but it oxydises rapidly. Gold plated would make more sense especially for DC.
I don't disassemble everything. Most systems go to scrap as they are. I just check for interesting parts.
Wow 5600 watt power supply unit? thats a lot.
The HP C7000 blade enclosure has a total of 14'400W divided into 6 power supplies. Yes that's quite a beefy unit and I don't see that every day. :-)
I dont think any server nowadays have double power supplies in one box like that anymore
Black magic happening at 7:38
I just pushed the secret "remove CPU screws" button on the main unit. :-)
you also sell this kind of macchine. i looking for
I always wonder what the engineers who design this sort of thing think the first time they turn it on. If it was someone who'd never heard one, they'd have to be shocked at the volume level. Like the guys who designed MRI machines in a quiet office somewhere and heard it in operation.
The top (high voltage) is a complete switching supply on it's own since it's active power factor correction. It's a boost supply.
And then i thougt i will be learning now after 2hour payday, then u upload this. And yes i will be learning because no 1080p. Bye till then :D
Sorry that was a mistake.
It's 1080 now. I reshot the whole video and edited it again... :-)
I meant it to critize yt :D Gotta watch now!
Well, I first thought it was my mistake but YT just needed some more time to get it right. Don't worry I got you right. :-)
Is this vacuum cleaner or computer?
Another very interesting video. „normal“ PCs look so crappy when you have seen this servers from the inside. What do you do with all the fans? I would be very interested in some powerfull server fans. Of course I would pay for the shipping or pick them up.
Write me a message... playwithjunk at gmail.com (auch auf Deutsch :-))
Feel free to send me any "junk" or computer scraps you have or don't want. I love looking at those kind of things and seeing how they work. Message me if you want to send any junk or scrap.
"only 200, not worth reselling"
Das Teil hätte ich auch gerne zerlegte 😭😭😱.
Those look like SATA cables to me (not SAS). SAS cables combine power and data into a single cable. Also, you need a minimum of three drives for RAID-5. Since they only had two in the system, they would have had to use either RAID-1, RAID-0, or a JBOD.
Your SAS cable theory is wrong. At least for servers, they always have separate power cables to the disks. SAS and SATA disks even have the same connector except a little notch that allows SATA disks to be plugged into SAS systems but not otherwise. Most SAS RAID controllers support SATA disks (or SSD). You just can not mix them in the same RAID volume. You're right, with only 2 disks a RAID-5 is not possible, so a RAID-5 card makes no sense it that server. But the board is also used in bigger models with 4 disks.....
Yes. You're right about the SAS power connection. I was thinking about the SFF-8482 connector, but technically even that uses separate cables. However, I do think the cables at 9:50 in the video are really SATA. I've never seen SAS cables that look like that and I can't find any online that do, either, unless those are proprietary to Oracle.
By the way, I like your channel very much. I've been watching for a couple of years now and it's good content. I work in an HPE data center, so it's nice to see other company's stuff from time to time.
@@Primetime94 The T6320 blade supports SAS and SATA disks.... and it has space for 4 of them (RAID-5 is possible). In the video you see two drive bays with fillers on top and two empty drive slots at the bottom. The cable may look like a cheap PC cable but where's the difference? If it supports 3Gb SATA, it will also support 3Gb SAS. The cable does not care what protocol runs through it. And if the manufacturer provides the correct connectors at each end, no worries. :-)
$50,000 for that??? it is easily the worst example of an expensive professional system I have seen... (I mean the enclosure and powersupplies, the blades themselves are not so bad)
I wonder why someone would buy this instead of some separate 1U/2U servers, especially when you have only 3 blades.
Blade servers make sense when you need many servers. If you only need 3 or 4 then you better buy standard rackmount models.
The idea is, at least with HP Virtual Connect, that (if configured correctly) when you replace a server, nothing changes. The serial number, MAC adresses and other settings remain "in the slot". Wne you install a new server, it will take the config profile of the slot and everything is like before. Saves you a lot of re-configuration.
Unfortunately most people use blader servers like traditional servers. Then there is no benefit...
@@PlaywithJunk Ok that sounds good. I have always used only 1U and 2U servers, lately mostly with VMware ESXi, and the hardware does not matter much in that case either. The VMs each keep their MAC etc when the hardware is changed.
I think the HP, Dell and newer IBM blade systems you have shown on this channel look a lot better than this SUN box.