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@@watcherzero5256 Well, there two British companies called Avon. One makes tires (or should I say tyres ?), the other is a large MLM that sells cosmetics. I wonder which one Simon thinks is a manufacturer of jet engines...
I had the privilege of flying the Hunter towards the end of its operational service and before moving onto the Harrier. The best description I heard of it was 'the jet Spitfire'; looked right and flew right. A brilliant aircraft.
Sidney Cam was one of the worlds greatest dessigners of all time! Imagine, going from biplanes to the Harrier jump-jet in one lifetime... What a man. ;o)
Strictly speaking he was only involved in the P.1127.... the developmental prototype... but YES... what a career! From a man carrying glider in 1912... through the various biplanes, the Hurricane (Typhoon and Tempest) and the Hunter... to that ground breaking design...
I once did some work experience on a group of privately owned Hunters based at Exeter. I helped disassemble one for shipment to Canada. The standout memory was that the final bolts you needed to remove to disconnect the wing were only accessible by lying on top of the wing.
Bonus Fact: In 1968, a rogue RAF pilot took an unauthorized joy-ride at low-altitude and high-speed over London in his Hawker Hunter. During this flight the Hawker Hunter became the first and only aircraft to ever fly through the span of the Tower Bridge.
Sometime during the early 1960s a Dutch Hunter pilot did something similar, performing an unauthorised flyby and airshow over his home town (where my father grew up and lived at the time, starting his interest in aviation).
@@EdMcF1 The pilot was Flt Lt Alan Pollock of number 1 Squadron. He was on a flight from RAF Tangmere in West Sussex to RAF West Raynham in Norfolk in Hunter FGA9 serial number XF442. He dropped out of the formation and beat up Dunsfold aerodrome where Hunters where assembled, he then flew low over London and circled the Houses of Parliament 3 times. He then flew past the RAF memorial on the Embankment, dipping his wings in salute before carrying on down stream and through the span of Tower Bridge. In a statement by him in later years he stated that he hadn't intended to fly through Tower Bridge but literally found it in his way so flew through
@@mikeandtriciajohnson7241 The most amazing aspect of the story is that this didn't end his career, senior officers felt that he had a point that is was a bit strange not to acknowledge the 50th anniversary, so they wrapped his knuckles and allowed him to keep flying.
The Hawker Hunter was the first plastic model airplane I ever built by myself, age 8! I had seen one and a Vulcan at an air show at the Corpus Christi Naval Air Station, and my dad bought the model kit for my birthday. Happy days! What beautiful lines that aircraft has
@@mikestanmore2614 My brother had a 1/72. Not sure if it was Revell, Monogram or Airfix. He painted it to match mine. Hanging from the ceiling, it looked like one was near, one far.
Sir Tom Sopwith of 'Camel' fame also founded Hawker aircraft and his firms started with WW1 and ended with the Harriers, via the Hurricane, Typhoon and Hunter, all in one lifetime
Sapphire engine was built by Armstrong Siddeley, the Avon was produced by Rolls Royce (Armstrong Siddeley also produced the Star Sapphire, the 346 version being perhaps the most elegant luxury car of the era).
The Hunter was a very beautiful aircraft. I got to see some when my National Guard unit was deployed to the sultanate of Oman in 1992. we were at Thumrait airbase building K-span shelters for the Omani Air Force. They had a single seat, and a two seat, Hunter, along with some Jaguars. I tried to take pictures on the sly, because we were told if we were caught, we would get in big trouble. All I had was a little one 10 camera and the photos definitely weren’t the best.
The Hunter was a lovely aeroplane and I had the pleasure of building them in re-furbed form at Dunsfold aerodrome during my apprenticeship with Hawker Siddeley, happy days.
Cold war british jets are definitely underappreciated in the US. Im a military aviation geek, but i hadnt even heard of the hunter until it was added to war thunder. American documentaries never discuss it, and its usually glossed over when discussing the conflicts it fought in
You are aware that the Canberra was adopted by the USAF as the Martin B57? It was powered by the AS Sapphire. Very many US types used UK engines - DH Ghosts, Rolls Nenes, Avons and Speys, AS Sapphires.
@@uingaeoc3905 but we didn’t claim that it was our technology unlike they claim Oppenheimer made the Atom bomb ! No mention of who split the Atom or discovered the neutron in the commonwealth that was a major part of the project except German Fission?
See the Swiss Hunters taking off from closed off roads, from their underground aircraft hangers - it's like an episode of Gerry Anderson's Thunderbirds. 🙂😎👍
In der Schweizer Armee sind mehr als 100 Hunter im Einsatz gestanden. Dieses Flugzeug war sehr gut und gehört zu den absolut besten Flieger ihrer Zeit. Nach wie vor gibt es bei uns einige Exemplare, die noch fliegen dürfen auf privatrechtlicher Ebene organisierte Vereine, die das Ding flugtüchtig erhalten. Natürlich beaufsichtigt durch die schweizerische Luftwaffe. Hunter war tatsächlich auch der absolute Top-Fighter seiner Zeit.
Avon company and Sapphire company? I think mixing up the engine model as the manufacturer there. Even so, just love the Hunter. The very first model aeroplane kit I made was an Airfix Hunter. Choice of making it as the two seater or single seat. I went with the two seater just because there was more cockpit to put together.
The Hawker Hunter was and is unique amongst swept wing fighter jets in that it could be safely spun, including an inverted spin. They'd teach students at the ETPS how to do it in their Hunter, said to be one of the most terrifying thing you can do in a jet! An excellent aircraft indeed!
They were armed with four 30mm Aden guns in a pack underneath the cockpit that was winched down to facilitate access to the guns. However, they weren't "rotary", each gun had a single fixed barrel.
They were Revolver cannons. Instead of the barrel and chamber rotating, the chamber rotated with a fixed barrel. Revolver cannons are still used today under the name of a Auto-Cannon.
What babalonkie is trying to say is that the Aden cannon had a revolving breech just like a Colt 45 peacemaker, except that it could load, fire and eject without stopping the rotation. The slower alternative resembles the action of an automatic pistol or rifle where the spent round in the breech has to be cleared before the next round can replace it. The evolution of the action of Cannons like the Aden was to increase the number of chambers in the cylinder and attach seperate barrels to each chamber avoiding the problem of breech and barrel alignment among other things and increasing rate of fire dramatically. Enjoyable as he is, Simon has a penchant for detaching brand names which seems to have caused confusion.
@@robertkirby3158 I'm an ex armourer, sorry that should be 'retired' armourer so I'm aware. What I meant was that it wasn't a multi rotating barrelled gun as the Yanks tend to favour when he called it a rotary gun.
@@chrisaskin6144 I take your point from what you accurately wrote about the Hunter. You are correct that the Aden does not fit the definition of a "rotary gun" but the revolving breech in the Aden has caused it to be labelled a "revolver" canon. As I indcated previously, I understand dedicated barrels for each chamber turns a revolver into a rotary. It was babalonkie's "They were Revolver cannons" that challenged you with subsequent loose terminology that brought me in. If by "he" you mean Simon in his narration then, without rerunning the video, I believe he referred to the guns as revolver canons which struck me as unusual, as it obviously did you, but that is just what an online search would give him. If he had been talking about James Bond he would almost certainly have said Walther PPK. The Hunter had far less options than James Bond so why not call an Aden just that. This is especially significant when the verbal hint of technicalities can open a can of worms. I am left wondering if Simon thinks a revolver is a rotary or is just serious comment bait. I do not know where you worked as an armourer but thanks for doing the job anyway.
One of my earliest memories is seening the Patrouille Suisse at the Dittingen air show with the thundering Hunters. Still deeply in my ❤. Especially the double seater looks so streamlined
The Supermarine Swift wasn’t cancelled, it entered RAF service in 1954 and was finally retired in 1967, only just under 200 were produced and it found its niche not as a fighter but as a low level reconnaissance aircraft.
There is a plaque by Princess Marina House in Rustington, West Sussex, marking the airspeed records achieved by both a Gloster Meteor and later by a Hawker Hunter over the English Channel. At the time Princess Marina House was owned by the Royal Air Force Benevolent Fund.
The Rhodesians used the Hawker Hunter extensively during their forays into Mozambique and Zambia. The Hunters were used for interdiction and ground attack.
I thinked that you fouled up a bit during this one - the 'Hurricane' crept in more than once when describing the plane, and the engines mentioned were the models not the builders. Still a great video and a tribute to a great aircraft
The Hawker Hunter was also used by the Chilean military in 1973 during their coup d’etat. Sadly, targets included civilian radio stations. The UK government did at least refuse maintenance and additional deliveries to the Chilean military dictatorship until Maggie Thatcher became Prime Minister.
Great video! Based on something you said, I got curious about the Dassault Rafale, so I looked to see if you made a video about it. Imagine my horror when I found you hadn't yet. WHAT A WORLD. Also, a video comparing the Rafale, Typhoon, and Gripen would be cool.
Nothing about the Hunter still being in service with one of the largest privately owned airforce in the world, used in aggressor roles to teach new generations of fighter pilots. If that ain't saying something about how good a plane it is, I don't know what is.
I spent many years maintaining Hunters in the RAF, mainly Mk6s and Mk7s (the two seat version). I became an expert on setting up the undercarriage systems with its up locks, door sequencing and hydraulic jacks and indicator micro switches. Sadly I never flew in one. There are however, a few still flying in displays and air experience flights. If I had two grand (£) I might treat myself one day.
I live on an old RNAS airfield and there is a Hawker Hunter on a pole next to my street and I walk under it every day with my dog, this made being at the Shoreham air show all the more saddening, as I looked up into the sky and explained to my son that that was the same plane as the one next to our house, only to watch it plough into a dual carriageway.
I think we need a megaprojects video about how a bald, bearded, "everyman" took over all of TH-cam by launching thousands of channels, recording millions of videos and never having written or edited a single script himself. Epic? Yep!
The lack editing does show on occasion. As does the lack of thorough research. So why am I still watching all these? One thing these guys do well is to pick interesting subjects, so kudos for that. 👍
I remember as a child watching the black arrows at Bagington and Gaydon airshows in awe at the displays and have a copy of the black arrows in formation from the tv program with jimmy Handley in the 60s.
The T7 variant also served at the Empire Test Pilot's Training School at RAE Boscombe Down for ages as it was probably the only swept wing jet that even came close to behaving itself in a spin or inverted spin.
It's such a shame the Hawker Hunter entered service when it did. It never got to show its full potential with the RAF as the exceptional plane that it was. Fast, hard as nails and a sleek, pretty aircraft, the Hunter is a legend. And the blue note howl from the Avon engine.....
that's what happened a lot at the time. Many types were rushed into production because technology moved faster than the procurement process. The F-86 also had its teething problems as did the F-102, the F-104, the Mirage, etc. etc.
My Grandfather was serving at RAF North Weald when RAF 111 Squadron re equipped with the Hawker Hunters. They painted theirs black, as the forerunners to the Red Arrows flying at air shows. He found them far more elegant in black, than the later red.
In 1978 I worked for Gulf Helicopters who had thje maintenance contract for the first aircraft that were purchased for the Qatar government for their Air Force, It was a mix of different helicopters but they had 3 single seat and one twin seat hunters, we were a small outfit so we all mucked in, I was in charge of all the ground equipment but helped out with reloading/arming the Aden cannons, filling the avpin start fluid and replacing the starter cartridges and giving the A&E guys a hand when changing engines. I did go up with one of the brit pilots on a firing programme, when those cannons go off your feet are bouncing on the cockpit floor, additionally, looking at the air speed indicator was not recommended when letting fly with those 50mm shells, great aircraft, our aircraft eventually were either sold or given to the Omani air force as they were fighting the Yemeni's. As a postscript, the Yemini's were using Russian SAMs at the time and the Hunters were perfect for ground attack as the SAMs couldn't cope with the low levels they operated at.
I love the hunter, my favorite hunter ever used to be the only twin seater hunter with camp wich later on flown for dutch aerospace with the tailcode: PH-NLH. Ironically the one hunter that followed PH-NLH is still complete though no longer flying, it's in the uk still in it's dutch markings at an industrial zone. Note: the last hunter variation that was in dutch service was the t.7 version, PH-NLH was slightly upgraded but not fully to any newer versions to my knowledge. The fate of PH-NLH: it's been cut up, the wings were used on another hunter wich had bad wings and the only known part in it original livery is the cockpit sadly not at a museum but to my knowledge a spanish collector. I tried to do some research on my own a few times behind PH-NLH and it's history when it left dutch airforce service..
Oh i totally forgot to note the following fun fact: hunter PH-NLH is also known as the only civilian ever. My guess is that dutch aerospace is a civilian organisation(dutch aerospace is in dutch known as the NLR)
Why the sudden leap from “Hawker Hunter” to “Hawker Hurricane” in the same paragraph? It happened several times, not to mention the aircraft engine that “Avon” made, pretty good going for a tyre production company. No mention at all of the sterling service the Hunter performed with the Royal Navy either.
My father served in the RAF in Aden in the late 50's at the Khormaksar air base. They had 115 of them in concrete bunkers back then with other older planes carrying out missions like operation canister (Please do a video on that btw). I've got 2 boxes of old 35mm projector slides from that era and the 1960 tour guide of the base. He's still ticking btw age 85, we still love talking about it even to this day. 50'C on the runways back then and not a Greta in sight ... good ol' days
No mention of the blue note.. I am disappoint.. Also, the number of times Simon says Hurricane instead of Hunter tickles me.. Not to mention the engine mixups! lol
I'm just guessing here, but I'm pretty sure you got it wrong that the hunter flies 700+ at sea level, but 600 at altitude. Planes tend to fly about 25% faster at high altitude than at sea level due to lessened levels of air drag.
By the way both aircraft you wrote about Mig 15 & F86 have the same engine built under licence the ROLLS ROYCE NENE. Britain was forced to sell the jet engine to GE in USA as part of our Lend Lease agreement after WW2. (Which didn’t go down to well with the British industrialists). So as a swipe at the US I’m afraid we gave it to the Soviets for free!
Just goes to prove, when governments allow British innovation to thrive, we could be up there with the best in the world. Such a pity the innovations we did lead the way with were just given away.
Agreed. You’ve made some of the greats, culminating in the TSR.2. We’re worse off without British aircraft showing the world how it’s done - and started.
What happened to British Aircraft Manufacturing? The Camel, the Hurricane & Spitfire, the Typhoon and Tempest, the Hunter & Lightning; the Vulcan. I’m sure there were civilian aircraft as well. What happened?
During the 1967 war a flight of Jordanian Hawker Hunters fought a similar strength flight of Israeli Mirage III. Two aircraft were lost on both sides which speaks volumes of the Hunter, since the Mirage was +1 generation. The next morning however the Israelis destroyed mist of the Jordanian airforce on the ground.
Another great vid but there were several unusual errors - engine names and also said Hawker Hurricane at one point - and the production seemed a little choppy. So a great vid but not to your usual high standards
New video idea. Please have a look at how they filmed the buildings during the nuclear tests. How did the camera stay still in position during the blast and why didn't the film get affected by the radiation?
The 22 hunter loop was performed by the Black Arrows (111 sqdn) in 1958, two years BEFORE the lightning came into service ,1960 so it was already in use by raf display teams....it being used by display teams had nothing to do with the lughtning
The Aussies didn’t do that badly with the Meteors shooting down several Migs. Despite being outnumbered most of the time and being jumped from above. But this was attributed more to pilot skill which may well be true as the MIG out performed the meteor in all aspects except possibly firepower and importantly for at least one victory a superior air break 😂 But yes the MIGs could pick their battles.
Magic aircraft - I was involved in maintenance of them with the Swiss air force around 1990, with Smith's Newmark company. Tight fully acrobatic gyroscope aircraft flight control system black box. See Marc Swiss air force test pilot vids on YT. 👍😎
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5:33 Fact check: The Avon was a Rolls-Royce engine.
The Sapphire was an engine from Armstrong Siddeley.
Sorry Simon, but this game is quite shite...
You should do a video on the f-16
Simon, could you do one on the Canberra. ?
Can we get largest ammonia pipeline
Avon = engine name. Made by Rolls Royce. Sapphire = engine name Made by Armstrong Siddeley aka ( Metropolitan-Vickers )
Thank you wondered why I didn't recognise the engine maker names 😅
Thank you …..
Yes, sounded weird when he read it, then I figured out he'd done it the other way around. 😂
Yeah silly mistake but he repeats it again later referring to the Avon as a company!
@@watcherzero5256 Well, there two British companies called Avon. One makes tires (or should I say tyres ?), the other is a large MLM that sells cosmetics. I wonder which one Simon thinks is a manufacturer of jet engines...
I had the privilege of flying the Hunter towards the end of its operational service and before moving onto the Harrier. The best description I heard of it was 'the jet Spitfire'; looked right and flew right. A brilliant aircraft.
Sidney Cam was one of the worlds greatest dessigners of all time! Imagine, going from biplanes to the Harrier jump-jet in one lifetime... What a man. ;o)
Strictly speaking he was only involved in the P.1127.... the developmental prototype... but YES... what a career! From a man carrying glider in 1912... through the various biplanes, the Hurricane (Typhoon and Tempest) and the Hunter... to that ground breaking design...
Pure genius.
I once did some work experience on a group of privately owned Hunters based at Exeter. I helped disassemble one for shipment to Canada. The standout memory was that the final bolts you needed to remove to disconnect the wing were only accessible by lying on top of the wing.
Bonus Fact: In 1968, a rogue RAF pilot took an unauthorized joy-ride at low-altitude and high-speed over London in his Hawker Hunter. During this flight the Hawker Hunter became the first and only aircraft to ever fly through the span of the Tower Bridge.
Yes, Flight-Lieutenant Pook, his reason, there was no fly-past to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the RAF.
Sometime during the early 1960s a Dutch Hunter pilot did something similar, performing an unauthorised flyby and airshow over his home town (where my father grew up and lived at the time, starting his interest in aviation).
@@EdMcF1 You got the rank right but Flt Lt Pook was a later generation.
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The pilot was Flt Lt Alan Pollock of number 1 Squadron.
He was on a flight from RAF Tangmere in West Sussex to RAF West Raynham in Norfolk in Hunter FGA9 serial number XF442.
He dropped out of the formation and beat up Dunsfold aerodrome where Hunters where assembled, he then flew low over London and circled the Houses of Parliament 3 times.
He then flew past the RAF memorial on the Embankment, dipping his wings in salute before carrying on down stream and through the span of Tower Bridge.
In a statement by him in later years he stated that he hadn't intended to fly through Tower Bridge but literally found it in his way so flew through
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The most amazing aspect of the story is that this didn't end his career, senior officers felt that he had a point that is was a bit strange not to acknowledge the 50th anniversary, so they wrapped his knuckles and allowed him to keep flying.
The Hawker Hunter was the first plastic model airplane I ever built by myself, age 8! I had seen one and a Vulcan at an air show at the Corpus Christi Naval Air Station, and my dad bought the model kit for my birthday. Happy days! What beautiful lines that aircraft has
I had a Revell 1:thirty something scale sometime in the late 60s or early 70s.
Me too! A black, 1/72 scale model. Airfix?
@@mikestanmore2614 My brother had a 1/72. Not sure if it was Revell, Monogram or Airfix. He painted it to match mine. Hanging from the ceiling, it looked like one was near, one far.
@@mikestanmore2614 black sounds right so probably an Airfix.
@@m1t2a1 Nice idea. 👍
I worked on the FGA9 and T7 Hunters with 20 Squadron at RAF Tengah in Singapore from 1969 until the squadron disbanded in 1970. A fantastic aircraft.
There’s either a typo in the script or a misread by Simon at 10:35. He refers to the Hawker Hurricane instead of the Hawker Hunter.
Also a good aircraft.
Twice even... 😋
There’s also a reference to the two engine models as being the manufacturers.
This video did feel a little sloppier than the high quality we are used to from Simon.
@@jameswilkinson9941 i feel like if we are watching this we know what he means, but i do agree
I was in the RAF when this was still in service, one of my favourites, as was the Lightning. Good video, thanks.
Thank You👍🏽
Sir Tom Sopwith of 'Camel' fame also founded Hawker aircraft and his firms started with WW1 and ended with the Harriers, via the Hurricane, Typhoon and Hunter, all in one lifetime
Technically, Hawker started it, for legal reasons as Sopwith went bankrupt
The amount of aviation development that occurred in those 50 or so years is nothing short of astounding. Truly the golden Era of aviation
Sapphire engine was built by Armstrong Siddeley, the Avon was produced by Rolls Royce (Armstrong Siddeley also produced the Star Sapphire, the 346 version being perhaps the most elegant luxury car of the era).
The Hawker Hunter is one of those planes that elicits the aerodynamicist's most hated phrase: "If it looks right, it is right"
The Supermarine Swift never 'looked right' to my eye.
The Hunter was a very beautiful aircraft. I got to see some when my National Guard unit was deployed to the sultanate of Oman in 1992. we were at Thumrait airbase building K-span shelters for the Omani Air Force. They had a single seat, and a two seat, Hunter, along with some Jaguars. I tried to take pictures on the sly, because we were told if we were caught, we would get in big trouble. All I had was a little one 10 camera and the photos definitely weren’t the best.
I think they may have been the Qatar ones I mentioned in an above comment.
The Hunter was a lovely aeroplane and I had the pleasure of building them in re-furbed form at Dunsfold aerodrome during my apprenticeship with Hawker Siddeley, happy days.
The Tower Bridge Incident, only damage, one pair of trousers.
One of the prettiest planes ever built.
Arguably the most beautiful jet fighter ever designed. It doesn't have a single bad side to it.
Maybe the most beautiful fighter plane ever produced.
Certainly my all time favourite jet aeroplane, such a beautiful machine.
AGREED!! There's no jet as sleek, sexy, or more beautiful than the Hawker Hunter!!
It is. We Americans have some lookers, but offhand I can’t think of any that match the beauty and grace of the Hunter, especially from a profile view.
F4 Phantom looks better, a real fighter aircraft, doesn't look like a kids toy like the Hunter
Cold war british jets are definitely underappreciated in the US. Im a military aviation geek, but i hadnt even heard of the hunter until it was added to war thunder. American documentaries never discuss it, and its usually glossed over when discussing the conflicts it fought in
I wonder why?
You are aware that the Canberra was adopted by the USAF as the Martin B57? It was powered by the AS Sapphire.
Very many US types used UK engines - DH Ghosts, Rolls Nenes, Avons and Speys, AS Sapphires.
The USA never speak about the Tizard Trunk which was a major part of the Atomic Bomb during WW2 plus gave them Jet and rocket technology & much more
@@StewartWalker-hy1eo We did of course get our own back in developing our own H-Bomb so they shared their designs with us.
@@uingaeoc3905 but we didn’t claim that it was our technology unlike they claim Oppenheimer made the Atom bomb !
No mention of who split the Atom or discovered the neutron in the commonwealth that was a major part of the project except German Fission?
See the Swiss Hunters taking off from closed off roads, from their underground aircraft hangers - it's like an episode of Gerry Anderson's Thunderbirds. 🙂😎👍
We do like our Bunkers. Nice to see we're not alone in that!
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In der Schweizer Armee sind mehr als 100 Hunter im Einsatz gestanden. Dieses Flugzeug war sehr gut und gehört zu den absolut besten Flieger ihrer Zeit. Nach wie vor gibt es bei uns einige Exemplare, die noch fliegen dürfen auf privatrechtlicher Ebene organisierte Vereine, die das Ding flugtüchtig erhalten. Natürlich beaufsichtigt durch die schweizerische Luftwaffe. Hunter war tatsächlich auch der absolute Top-Fighter seiner Zeit.
Avon company and Sapphire company? I think mixing up the engine model as the manufacturer there.
Even so, just love the Hunter. The very first model aeroplane kit I made was an Airfix Hunter. Choice of making it as the two seater or single seat. I went with the two seater just because there was more cockpit to put together.
Glad you heard it too, I had to go back to make sure my ears weren't diceving me.
@@orwellboy1958 along with a few slip ups of saying Hurricane. Think sometimes he needs to take a breath and relax when rattling through the scripts.
Rolls-Royce Avon and Armstrong-Siddeley Sapphire.
The Hawker Hunter was and is unique amongst swept wing fighter jets in that it could be safely spun, including an inverted spin. They'd teach students at the ETPS how to do it in their Hunter, said to be one of the most terrifying thing you can do in a jet! An excellent aircraft indeed!
Such a beautiful airframe.
The "Sapphire" engine wasn't from the "Sapphire Company", it was made by Armstrong Siddeley.
Likewise, Rolls Royce was the company, Avon the name of the engine.
They were armed with four 30mm Aden guns in a pack underneath the cockpit that was winched down to facilitate access to the guns. However, they weren't "rotary", each gun had a single fixed barrel.
They were Revolver cannons. Instead of the barrel and chamber rotating, the chamber rotated with a fixed barrel. Revolver cannons are still used today under the name of a Auto-Cannon.
What babalonkie is trying to say is that the Aden cannon had a revolving breech just like a Colt 45 peacemaker, except that it could load, fire and eject without stopping the rotation. The slower alternative resembles the action of an automatic pistol or rifle where the spent round in the breech has to be cleared before the next round can replace it. The evolution of the action of Cannons like the Aden was to increase the number of chambers in the cylinder and attach seperate barrels to each chamber avoiding the problem of breech and barrel alignment among other things and increasing rate of fire dramatically.
Enjoyable as he is, Simon has a penchant for detaching brand names which seems to have caused confusion.
@@robertkirby3158 I'm an ex armourer, sorry that should be 'retired' armourer so I'm aware. What I meant was that it wasn't a multi rotating barrelled gun as the Yanks tend to favour when he called it a rotary gun.
@@chrisaskin6144 I take your point from what you accurately wrote about the Hunter. You are correct that the Aden does not fit the definition of a "rotary gun" but the revolving breech in the Aden has caused it to be labelled a "revolver" canon. As I indcated previously, I understand dedicated barrels for each chamber turns a revolver into a rotary. It was babalonkie's "They were Revolver cannons" that challenged you with subsequent loose terminology that brought me in. If by "he" you mean Simon in his narration then, without rerunning the video, I believe he referred to the guns as revolver canons which struck me as unusual, as it obviously did you, but that is just what an online search would give him. If he had been talking about James Bond he would almost certainly have said Walther PPK. The Hunter had far less options than James Bond so why not call an Aden just that. This is especially significant when the verbal hint of technicalities can open a can of worms. I am left wondering if Simon thinks a revolver is a rotary or is just serious comment bait.
I do not know where you worked as an armourer but thanks for doing the job anyway.
..and the hunter was well used by the Rhodesian Air Force !
One of my earliest memories is seening the Patrouille Suisse at the Dittingen air show with the thundering Hunters. Still deeply in my ❤.
Especially the double seater looks so streamlined
12.24 ACCIDENTLY SAYS "THE HAWKER hURRICANE"
The Supermarine Swift wasn’t cancelled, it entered RAF service in 1954 and was finally retired in 1967, only just under 200 were produced and it found its niche not as a fighter but as a low level reconnaissance aircraft.
I think it was the Supermarine Spiteful which got cancelled, a much earlier piston engined aircraft.
There is a plaque by Princess Marina House in Rustington, West Sussex, marking the airspeed records achieved by both a Gloster Meteor and later by a Hawker Hunter over the English Channel.
At the time Princess Marina House was owned by the Royal Air Force Benevolent Fund.
Beautiful airplane! One of my all time favourites.
Company in my city uses these as adversary trainers for the navy always love hearing them overhead
The Rhodesians used the Hawker Hunter extensively during their forays into Mozambique and Zambia. The Hunters were used for interdiction and ground attack.
I thinked that you fouled up a bit during this one - the 'Hurricane' crept in more than once when describing the plane, and the engines mentioned were the models not the builders. Still a great video and a tribute to a great aircraft
Yeah, whoever wrote his script for this one was pretty sloppy...
The Hawker Hunter was also used by the Chilean military in 1973 during their coup d’etat. Sadly, targets included civilian radio stations. The UK government did at least refuse maintenance and additional deliveries to the Chilean military dictatorship until Maggie Thatcher became Prime Minister.
Happy to see some footage of Swiss Hunters.
The Hunter is a beautiful aircraft. She looks like a swooping blackbird when she flies.
Great video! Based on something you said, I got curious about the Dassault Rafale, so I looked to see if you made a video about it. Imagine my horror when I found you hadn't yet. WHAT A WORLD.
Also, a video comparing the Rafale, Typhoon, and Gripen would be cool.
Nothing about the Hunter still being in service with one of the largest privately owned airforce in the world, used in aggressor roles to teach new generations of fighter pilots. If that ain't saying something about how good a plane it is, I don't know what is.
who is this private air force?
@@toucan221 Airborne Tactical Advantage Company
@@PiersLawsonBrown1972 thanks
I spent many years maintaining Hunters in the RAF, mainly Mk6s and Mk7s (the two seat version). I became an expert on setting up the undercarriage systems with its up locks, door sequencing and hydraulic jacks and indicator micro switches. Sadly I never flew in one. There are however, a few still flying in displays and air experience flights. If I had two grand (£) I might treat myself one day.
I live on an old RNAS airfield and there is a Hawker Hunter on a pole next to my street and I walk under it every day with my dog, this made being at the Shoreham air show all the more saddening, as I looked up into the sky and explained to my son that that was the same plane as the one next to our house, only to watch it plough into a dual carriageway.
Anyone else pick up on the slip between hunter and hurricane., later on in the video. ?
Any how. Quality stuff. Great airframe. Nuff luv! 👊💛👍
I think we need a megaprojects video about how a bald, bearded, "everyman" took over all of TH-cam by launching thousands of channels, recording millions of videos and never having written or edited a single script himself. Epic? Yep!
The lack editing does show on occasion. As does the lack of thorough research. So why am I still watching all these? One thing these guys do well is to pick interesting subjects, so kudos for that. 👍
I'm just here for the topic at hand.
I remember as a child watching the black arrows at Bagington and Gaydon airshows in awe at the displays and have a copy of the black arrows in formation from the tv program with jimmy Handley in the 60s.
9:07 I hadn't really taken a close look at this yet before, I've fallen in love
SI's Elves & Pixies you have to do a mega project on the Lightning!
Airborne Tactical Advantage Company here in the states has 20 hunters. The most recent crash occurred in June 2022.
The T7 variant also served at the Empire Test Pilot's Training School at RAE Boscombe Down for ages as it was probably the only swept wing jet that even came close to behaving itself in a spin or inverted spin.
10:34 since when was the hurricane jet powered?? 😂😂
It's such a shame the Hawker Hunter entered service when it did. It never got to show its full potential with the RAF as the exceptional plane that it was. Fast, hard as nails and a sleek, pretty aircraft, the Hunter is a legend. And the blue note howl from the Avon engine.....
that's what happened a lot at the time. Many types were rushed into production because technology moved faster than the procurement process.
The F-86 also had its teething problems as did the F-102, the F-104, the Mirage, etc. etc.
Do one on the Canberra!
which is still in service (albeit not in a military capacity) with NASA.
Technically the Hunter is still in use with the RAF, there’s 2 operated by HHA out of RAF Leeming as aggressors
My Grandfather was serving at RAF North Weald when RAF 111 Squadron re equipped with the Hawker Hunters. They painted theirs black, as the forerunners to the Red Arrows flying at air shows. He found them far more elegant in black, than the later red.
10:33 ... the Hawker what? (Simon has a Mighty Jingles moment)
In 1978 I worked for Gulf Helicopters who had thje maintenance contract for the first aircraft that were purchased for the Qatar government for their Air Force, It was a mix of different helicopters but they had 3 single seat and one twin seat hunters, we were a small outfit so we all mucked in, I was in charge of all the ground equipment but helped out with reloading/arming the Aden cannons, filling the avpin start fluid and replacing the starter cartridges and giving the A&E guys a hand when changing engines.
I did go up with one of the brit pilots on a firing programme, when those cannons go off your feet are bouncing on the cockpit floor, additionally, looking at the air speed indicator was not recommended when letting fly with those 50mm shells, great aircraft, our aircraft eventually were either sold or given to the Omani air force as they were fighting the Yemeni's.
As a postscript, the Yemini's were using Russian SAMs at the time and the Hunters were perfect for ground attack as the SAMs couldn't cope with the low levels they operated at.
I love the hunter, my favorite hunter ever used to be the only twin seater hunter with camp wich later on flown for dutch aerospace with the tailcode: PH-NLH.
Ironically the one hunter that followed PH-NLH is still complete though no longer flying, it's in the uk still in it's dutch markings at an industrial zone.
Note: the last hunter variation that was in dutch service was the t.7 version, PH-NLH was slightly upgraded but not fully to any newer versions to my knowledge.
The fate of PH-NLH: it's been cut up, the wings were used on another hunter wich had bad wings and the only known part in it original livery is the cockpit sadly not at a museum but to my knowledge a spanish collector.
I tried to do some research on my own a few times behind PH-NLH and it's history when it left dutch airforce service..
T2 trainer, side by side. A few of them still fly in Switzerland, with the most ludicrous paintwork on them. 👍😎🙃
Oh i totally forgot to note the following fun fact: hunter PH-NLH is also known as the only civilian ever. My guess is that dutch aerospace is a civilian organisation(dutch aerospace is in dutch known as the NLR)
@@huwzebediahthomas9193 neat!
@@stijnVDA1994 NLR is a civilian organisation funded by the Dutch government, yes.
@@jwenting i see
Hawker Hunters made the difference for Chile to be like it is now...or being like Venezuela.
A true symbol of freedom.
10:35 "Hawker Hurricane"?!
I fell in love with the Hawker Hunter after watching the music video for Fatboy Slim's Sunset (Bird of Prey). Gorgeous aircraft!
Why the sudden leap from “Hawker Hunter” to “Hawker Hurricane” in the same paragraph? It happened several times, not to mention the aircraft engine that “Avon” made, pretty good going for a tyre production company. No mention at all of the sterling service the Hunter performed with the Royal Navy either.
The Swift did enter RAF service and was not cancelled. It became a poor fighter but superb recconisance aircraft.
I came here to say the same!
My father served in the RAF in Aden in the late 50's at the Khormaksar air base. They had 115 of them in concrete bunkers back then with other older planes carrying out missions like operation canister (Please do a video on that btw). I've got 2 boxes of old 35mm projector slides from that era and the 1960 tour guide of the base. He's still ticking btw age 85, we still love talking about it even to this day. 50'C on the runways back then and not a Greta in sight ... good ol' days
Heh heh heh...
You said Hawker Hurricane instead of Hunter at 10:33😲and again at 12:27
Otherwise another superb video - thanks
A typical Hawker aircraft, solid, reliable, stable and packing a punch that no one wants to be on the wrong end of?!
Zimbabwe still flys one as well.
Plus its damn pleasing to the eye
No mention of the blue note.. I am disappoint..
Also, the number of times Simon says Hurricane instead of Hunter tickles me.. Not to mention the engine mixups! lol
I'm just guessing here, but I'm pretty sure you got it wrong that the hunter flies 700+ at sea level, but 600 at altitude. Planes tend to fly about 25% faster at high altitude than at sea level due to lessened levels of air drag.
A beautiful plane that served the Indian Air Force well.
Brilliant. Thank you. M.
Can we get a Mig-15 vs F-86 video? The two planes that really solidified the jet dogfighting age
By the way both aircraft you wrote about Mig 15 & F86 have the same engine built under licence the ROLLS ROYCE NENE. Britain was forced to sell the jet engine to GE in USA as part of our Lend Lease agreement after WW2. (Which didn’t go down to well with the British industrialists). So as a swipe at the US I’m afraid we gave it to the Soviets for free!
Someone is forgetting the de Havilland vampire before the hunter the first great jet fighter hunter comes at 2nd
Maybe try having a look at the Avro Vulcan.
Why does Britain make the most beautiful aircraft in existence?
There really is something about British aircraft design that blends aesthetics and function very well
Because we're the shit baby. O yeah! 😂💛👍👊
@@Free-Bodge79 The beauty of their women and the taste of their food, made the British the best sailors in the world
We have some standouts for sure 😊
And the ugliest ships? They don't float as much as repell the water.
Ah yes the hawker hurricane can climb better than jets way Beyond it's time
My all time favourite jet aeroplane, just beautiful.
Most beautiful jet ever produced
Just goes to prove, when governments allow British innovation to thrive, we could be up there with the best in the world. Such a pity the innovations we did lead the way with were just given away.
Agreed. You’ve made some of the greats, culminating in the TSR.2. We’re worse off without British aircraft showing the world how it’s done - and started.
10:34
Referred to the aircraft as a Hawker Hurricane
6:18
They both entered RAF service
What happened to British Aircraft Manufacturing? The Camel, the Hurricane & Spitfire, the Typhoon and Tempest, the Hunter & Lightning; the Vulcan. I’m sure there were civilian aircraft as well. What happened?
The EU
I really want to see a video about aerial refueling planes like the Stratotanker and Pegasus, aerial refueling is a big innovation
During the 1967 war a flight of Jordanian Hawker Hunters fought a similar strength flight of Israeli Mirage III. Two aircraft were lost on both sides which speaks volumes of the Hunter, since the Mirage was +1 generation. The next morning however the Israelis destroyed mist of the Jordanian airforce on the ground.
10:32 that's gotta be one cracked Hurricane holy shit
Avon and Saphire were the model names of the engines, not the company names
The Presidential Place goes boom
Another great vid but there were several unusual errors - engine names and also said Hawker Hurricane at one point - and the production seemed a little choppy. So a great vid but not to your usual high standards
Not to nitpick, loved the video, but you called it a hurricane at least 5 times.....😂
0:45 - Mid roll ads
2:00 - Chapter 1 - Design & development
6:30 - Chapter 2 - Getting to the finished product
10:50 - Chapter 3 - Deployment & service record
New video idea. Please have a look at how they filmed the buildings during the nuclear tests. How did the camera stay still in position during the blast and why didn't the film get affected by the radiation?
The 22 hunter loop was performed by the Black Arrows (111 sqdn) in 1958, two years BEFORE the lightning came into service ,1960 so it was already in use by raf display teams....it being used by display teams had nothing to do with the lughtning
Concentrate! Stop keep calling it the Hurricane!!
U.K. also had the Vampire as well as the Meteor in 1943
The Aussies didn’t do that badly with the Meteors shooting down several Migs. Despite being outnumbered most of the time and being jumped from above. But this was attributed more to pilot skill which may well be true as the MIG out performed the meteor in all aspects except possibly firepower and importantly for at least one victory a superior air break 😂 But yes the MIGs could pick their battles.
Bravo!
Hawker Hurricane?😁 a proper easy mistake to make when saying Hawker👊🏼 There’s a couple of mentions, (one at 12:20 ish😉👍) great video🙏
Can you do the Folland Gnat some time? it's a very pretty aircraft.
Love the way you slip in Hawker Hurricane/Hawker Hunter. Freudian slips?
Magic aircraft - I was involved in maintenance of them with the Swiss air force around 1990, with Smith's Newmark company. Tight fully acrobatic gyroscope aircraft flight control system black box. See Marc Swiss air force test pilot vids on YT. 👍😎