In the Japanese version when Gohan is down the cliff, he actually yells swear words at Piccolo like "douche", "morron" etc... The U.S version got censored there.
No he doesn’t. he starts playing “Shiritori” with Piccolo. The last word he used ends with “ん”. However due to the fact no word in Japanese starts with that syllable that means Piccolo is unable to win.
If this is the scene I'm thinking of, it's actually a Japanese game, where you have to say a series of words, where each starts with the syllable at the end of the previous. You lose when you pick a word that ends with "n". So the lastword Gohan says is "Lion", then it's Piccolo's turn. Not being a Japanese Kindergarten student, Piccolo don't give a cluck.
Fun fact, saiyan (in japanese "saiyajin") is "yasai" but reversed, which means "vegetables", and tuffle (in japanese "tsufurujin") is "furutsu", also reversed, which means "fruits".
Canon is nonsense for this franchise. Damn near everytime most things are explained they'll be some change made later. Maybe details are added, maybe new details change what was before, maybe it's flat out different. If anything, it's amazing there's as much of a continuity at all.
hey kinda still close to reality if you think about Dragon Ball Super. Suzy don't read the rest here:..... don't I tell you..... ok ( this protector could be Lord Berus or Whis. they were the ones who ordered Freeza to destroy it and maybe Freeza was supposed to use a meteor but destroyed it himself. so not so farfetched and explanation we know that King Kai used to sleep a lot and missed when that happened so he could probably just not be in the loop. for plot reasons obviously)
So something to keep an eye on and look out for, Akira toriyama did forget a lot of his own lore. There are going to be missing bits, or "wait I thought this was already established lore" bits, but Akira kept forgetting things and this is the godfather of shonen anime in america. This was the first largest anime series in western america and dispersed throughout english speaking countries. This was all hand-drawn, so there's going to be mistakes and errors. Translation issues were massive in this show.
That meteor scene really ruined the upcoming info dump, and it ends up confusing so many people. At least one positive thing about Kai is they cut out contradictions and plot holes but I know she's sticking with DBZ which is fine, but she'll be confused.
For filler, it isn't too bad. Aside from the meteor storm bit, the rest fits in pretty well with canon. The Tuffles is a good backstory showing the Saiyans are violent savages who started the war for fun, and strong enough to destroy enemies who have space age technology. The Arcosans giving the Saiyans technology is also pretty consistent with a certain icy little space dictator. They could just be one of the many species under his Empire and the ones that recruited them.
Spoilers Suzy DBZ filler is canon and explain why king kai said that because he wanted Goku to avoid freiza. Some of part of filler later taken in manga. The insect gregori is designed and put by toriyama for anime despite him not being in manga. Plus this explain the saiyan nature and the gave the sight of how Saiyan are running business.
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Remember, most of this is still filler, so this backstory for the Saiyans is not entirely correct. Also, Gregory is not even in the original manga either.
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That meteor story was filler and it never happened, it's an anime contradiction plot hole. A lot of fans were upset over this because it was an error, and later in the episodes they fix the continuity and explain what happened (The canon way) but if you don't know this you'll be confused as to by King Kai is one thing and someone else says something different. We were all confused when this happened. It's one of the reasons people like DBZ Kai because it not only cuts out fillers, but contradictionary plot holes, but I understand you're sticking with DBZ so just understand the meteor part isn't true, it's a plot hole.
Kaioken not Kaeoken btw. The original dubs for a lot of anime took some..."creative liberties" with pronunciation. Or in the case of "Ghost Stories", they just made it go from mid to meme masterpiece lol
10:15 u dont get piccolos point. he want do it as hard as possible for gohan so that gohan is prepared of every mean situations in the fight. right now piccolo dont spend time with him being friends its about to be prepared for everything to save the world
I'm so glad you mentioned this, because when I first saw Dragon Ball Z, I had the exact same opinion, even stronger than you about the pacing. I felt that Dragon Ball Z is just too slow. At certain parts it drags for way too long. With the original Dragon Ball, I never felt like that. Even when I rewatched it recently. That's one of the main reason I still like Dragon Ball more than Z.
The pacing issue with Z is due to the show caught up to the manga. As they just can't put the show on pause, they needed to slow it down by making stuff up in the form of filler so the manga can get ahead again. This was not the first anime this happened to and certainly wasn't the last. Ep 9-10 never happened in manga Ep 11 Vegeta and Nappa going to Arlia never happened Ep. 12-16 never happened in manga. I believe in total, 40 entire episodes of DBZ never happened in the manga, and an additional 9 that was a mix of official and made up. DBZ Kai was done to fix this.
Un addition to these about 40 filler episodes, the pacing of canon ones was slower too. In total if you add fillers + slow pacing, it's almost twice slower than Kai. However kai is censored and does not have the legendary bgms dragon ball and dragon ball z have. So despite the pacing problem with z, it might be the best option for someone who just finished og.
It's one of the reasons to watch Kai if pacing matters to you, I understand the downfalls Kai might have, but it becomes a pick your poising, both options have their pros and cons. They should have just done a Kai version where it still resembled DBZ and same voice actors.
@@Mr.YasQueenmost of the Kai voice actors are the same , they only replaced some minor characters with the exception of Gohan and Frieza, the latter being for the better because Chris > Linda
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18:53 Just a heads up, in this version, they pronounce this technique incorrectly. They pronounce it as “Kay-Oh Ken”. But it’s supposed to be “Kai-oh Ken”. Spelled “Kaio-Ken”.
Putting it bluntly, the Saiyans were not poor per se, but they are quite Neanderthalic. In fact, they did not evolve further than making hide huts and clothes before coming to Planet Vegeta (yes Planet Vegeta was not their home planet).
@@specialnewb9821We have to just assume they are from the planet but were a different kind of humanoid species than the Tuffles. Since this is filler, I don't even think the Tuffles are apart of DBZ canon.
Oh, I forgot that this was the "Kay-o-Ken." translation. Or rather mistranslation. It's actually, "Kai-oh-ken." which roughly translates to God's technique. (Not Japanese, or speak it, so that's not really the right translation either, but it's closer than Kay-oh-Ken.)
In the Japanese version when Gohan is down the cliff, he actually yells swear words at Piccolo like "douche", "morron" etc...
The U.S version got censored there.
not just the japanese version, all other versions but the american one lol
@@mielthesquid6536nah in the Latin America he randomly says vegetables😭he goes like “carrots, lettuce, tomato” or something🤣
Sounds like cap because in the Japanese version i watched
He started saying random animal names and maybe veggies
No he doesn’t. he starts playing “Shiritori” with Piccolo. The last word he used ends with “ん”. However due to the fact no word in Japanese starts with that syllable that means Piccolo is unable to win.
If this is the scene I'm thinking of, it's actually a Japanese game, where you have to say a series of words, where each starts with the syllable at the end of the previous. You lose when you pick a word that ends with "n". So the lastword Gohan says is "Lion", then it's Piccolo's turn. Not being a Japanese Kindergarten student, Piccolo don't give a cluck.
FUN FACT not many of us think about: Piccolo is only about 3 years older than Gohan
its more like about 8 years older but yeah still lol
Not really, Gohan is 4, and Goku fight piccolo 3 years after defeating piccolo daimaku. So he technically is up to 7-8 years older than Gohan.
4 years*
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Fun fact, saiyan (in japanese "saiyajin") is "yasai" but reversed, which means "vegetables", and tuffle (in japanese "tsufurujin") is "furutsu", also reversed, which means "fruits".
To clarify that entire explanation of the story is not canon and was made prior to the later explanation of it.
Canon is nonsense for this franchise. Damn near everytime most things are explained they'll be some change made later. Maybe details are added, maybe new details change what was before, maybe it's flat out different. If anything, it's amazing there's as much of a continuity at all.
hey kinda still close to reality if you think about Dragon Ball Super. Suzy don't read the rest here:..... don't I tell you..... ok ( this protector could be Lord Berus or Whis. they were the ones who ordered Freeza to destroy it and maybe Freeza was supposed to use a meteor but destroyed it himself. so not so farfetched and explanation we know that King Kai used to sleep a lot and missed when that happened so he could probably just not be in the loop. for plot reasons obviously)
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Nappa: Are we there yet?
Vegeta: No!
Nappa: Are we there yet?
Vegeta: No!
hey Vegeta, can we stop at that bug planet?
So something to keep an eye on and look out for, Akira toriyama did forget a lot of his own lore. There are going to be missing bits, or "wait I thought this was already established lore" bits, but Akira kept forgetting things and this is the godfather of shonen anime in america. This was the first largest anime series in western america and dispersed throughout english speaking countries. This was all hand-drawn, so there's going to be mistakes and errors. Translation issues were massive in this show.
The Long Distance Call at 4:56 - 5:29 is easily among my favorite dad jokes from King Kai.
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Problem with DBZ filler is that a lot of is not cannon so it seems cool to get "backstory" but its not what actually happened lol
That meteor scene really ruined the upcoming info dump, and it ends up confusing so many people. At least one positive thing about Kai is they cut out contradictions and plot holes but I know she's sticking with DBZ which is fine, but she'll be confused.
Not necesary, it can be seen as king Kai trying to avoid a future confrontation with frieza@@Mr.YasQueen
For filler, it isn't too bad. Aside from the meteor storm bit, the rest fits in pretty well with canon.
The Tuffles is a good backstory showing the Saiyans are violent savages who started the war for fun, and strong enough to destroy enemies who have space age technology.
The Arcosans giving the Saiyans technology is also pretty consistent with a certain icy little space dictator. They could just be one of the many species under his Empire and the ones that recruited them.
@@cesaromardiazlara1430another reason DBZ sucks is Raditz claimed their planet got destroyed 3 years ago and ofc we will find out it’s all cap soon.
Spoilers Suzy
DBZ filler is canon and explain why king kai said that because he wanted Goku to avoid freiza. Some of part of filler later taken in manga. The insect gregori is designed and put by toriyama for anime despite him not being in manga. Plus this explain the saiyan nature and the gave the sight of how Saiyan are running business.
i am pretty happy that most of people are appearing to watch your reactions on the Fillers and on the Semi Fillers . the Dragon Ball Community is the best Fighting Anime Community
Remember, most of this is still filler, so this backstory for the Saiyans is not entirely correct. Also, Gregory is not even in the original manga either.
Suzy , thank you for react to all eps of Dragon Ball . including the Fillers and the Semi Fillers . most of us want to see your reactions to all eps . most Reactors do not do that
18:56 "Ka.. Kaioken?" "KAIO...WHAT?!"
King Kai and Grand Master Piccolo, despite being hard on Goku and Gohan, have a lot of respect for the students that life gave them.
i never noticed but Gregory really have a baby table . it is really adorable . he is so cute
I love king Kai so much. He’s such an under appreciated character
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Forget abt the backstory btw
so did i
I like how it took roughly 30 years for this filler to be halfway canon
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Please mom. Shut up and let coach Piccolo do his job.
That meteor story was filler and it never happened, it's an anime contradiction plot hole. A lot of fans were upset over this because it was an error, and later in the episodes they fix the continuity and explain what happened (The canon way) but if you don't know this you'll be confused as to by King Kai is one thing and someone else says something different. We were all confused when this happened. It's one of the reasons people like DBZ Kai because it not only cuts out fillers, but contradictionary plot holes, but I understand you're sticking with DBZ so just understand the meteor part isn't true, it's a plot hole.
Finally 500k!
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Kaioken not Kaeoken btw. The original dubs for a lot of anime took some..."creative liberties" with pronunciation. Or in the case of "Ghost Stories", they just made it go from mid to meme masterpiece lol
Also “Kamay-Ha-Mayha wave” 😂
@@dekamaster100 😂🤣
2:42 That's because Dragon Ball had less filler than Z. Most of what you've seen in Z since Goku started running on Snake Way has been filler.
awesome to see King Kai talking to Goku about the past of the Sayans on the planet Vegeta and the legend of the sayans
Facts
0:57 Hey now, don't be Pluto-shaming King Kai's planet.
especially from what we know about the planet fate in super and why its so small :P
Yep toriyama had one hell of A sense of humor when he came up with these names
King kai and Roshi are good teachers for Goku
He is Nappa, majored in child psychiatry. He is hilarious and you will quote everything he says.
With a minor in pain :D
VEGETA! LOOK! IT'S A POKEMON!
10:15 u dont get piccolos point. he want do it as hard as possible for gohan so that gohan is prepared of every mean situations in the fight. right now piccolo dont spend time with him being friends its about to be prepared for everything to save the world
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I'm so glad you mentioned this, because when I first saw Dragon Ball Z, I had the exact same opinion, even stronger than you about the pacing. I felt that Dragon Ball Z is just too slow. At certain parts it drags for way too long. With the original Dragon Ball, I never felt like that. Even when I rewatched it recently. That's one of the main reason I still like Dragon Ball more than Z.
The pacing issue with Z is due to the show caught up to the manga.
As they just can't put the show on pause, they needed to slow it down by making stuff up in the form of filler so the manga can get ahead again.
This was not the first anime this happened to and certainly wasn't the last.
Ep 9-10 never happened in manga
Ep 11 Vegeta and Nappa going to Arlia never happened
Ep. 12-16 never happened in manga.
I believe in total, 40 entire episodes of DBZ never happened in the manga, and an additional 9 that was a mix of official and made up.
DBZ Kai was done to fix this.
@thepsychicspoon5984 this is why other shows were seasonal but DB never was until Daima.
Un addition to these about 40 filler episodes, the pacing of canon ones was slower too. In total if you add fillers + slow pacing, it's almost twice slower than Kai.
However kai is censored and does not have the legendary bgms dragon ball and dragon ball z have. So despite the pacing problem with z, it might be the best option for someone who just finished og.
It's one of the reasons to watch Kai if pacing matters to you, I understand the downfalls Kai might have, but it becomes a pick your poising, both options have their pros and cons. They should have just done a Kai version where it still resembled DBZ and same voice actors.
@@Mr.YasQueenmost of the Kai voice actors are the same , they only replaced some minor characters with the exception of Gohan and Frieza, the latter being for the better because Chris > Linda
Glad Suzy is watching one of the most famous anime and and most influential of all time in the English speaking world
Well, Goku’s Training is going very BADASS!!!
Suzy's Christmas present is 500k subs. :D
Congratulations!
your comparison with Attack on Titan was pretty good , Suzy
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Congratulations on 500k I'm going to start dragon ball z season 4 soon but enjoying your reactions
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18:55 Kaio what...?
I really really hope you watch the tv specials as well, when they become relevant.
Lol ya Planet Vegeta had a guardian all right 😆 He also renamed Christmas under his name too 🤣
awesome to hear Kami saying that Goku's friends are already stronger than him .
I love how often you post
pretty nice to see Goku's friends training on Kami's Ramen Bowl
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I wish she will watch the 2 TV Specials at some point, they are beyond the best and add a lot to the anime.
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Episodes like this is exactly why people hate filler...... no spoilers but TOEI pulled this right out their butt.
Yeah it’s stupid that they felt the need to make up their own lore. And they even did it with the Dragon Balls in the OG series
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18:53 Just a heads up, in this version, they pronounce this technique incorrectly. They pronounce it as “Kay-Oh Ken”. But it’s supposed to be “Kai-oh Ken”. Spelled “Kaio-Ken”.
Yeah boi! Tomorrow the fun begins! The most brutal fight our heroes will face (until this moment lol)
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The guardian who destroyed the Sayan planet sounds so saintly.... For now.
Putting it bluntly, the Saiyans were not poor per se, but they are quite Neanderthalic. In fact, they did not evolve further than making hide huts and clothes before coming to Planet Vegeta (yes Planet Vegeta was not their home planet).
How did they get to the planet?
@@specialnewb9821We have to just assume they are from the planet but were a different kind of humanoid species than the Tuffles. Since this is filler, I don't even think the Tuffles are apart of DBZ canon.
@@specialnewb9821 I don't think they cover that in canon. If they did, I would love to find it!
Kai is not his name. King Kai is a title.
The meteor backstory is not canon so its not what actually happened
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It's about to happen... pain is incoming
This was a nice reaction. I’m a bit confused by the mispronunciation of Kaio-Ken. I certainly don’t remember that.
i loved to see your reactions to King Kai talking about the past of the sayans and the legend of the sayans , Suzy
The pacing in Dragonball Classic was a million ways better ☝
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I mean it's a rock basically that supports life and holds it own gravity, if it looks like a chicken it probably makes a decent 2 piece
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Oh, I forgot that this was the "Kay-o-Ken." translation. Or rather mistranslation.
It's actually, "Kai-oh-ken." which roughly translates to God's technique. (Not Japanese, or speak it, so that's not really the right translation either, but it's closer than Kay-oh-Ken.)
King Kai’s car got smashed up 🔨 🚗
Thank you ❤
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nice that Goku beat Gregory .
Suzy made it to 500k
if grandpa gohan never dropped goku on his head....
The Saiyan's vs the Truffles
yajirobi would have no trouble dealing with truffles
Amazing videos
16:24
You: "I don't like seeing him dress like that."
Turles: Aloud me to enter due myself.
I CAN SEE THE FUTURE!!!
16:21
It's hilarious Suzy is saying this but I think Akira DID like putting Goku in Saiyan armor. Like... A lot.
man shes gonna hate these next few episodes lmfao
16:09 you're not wrong
Yeah can't wait for the plot twist in a way hehehehe suzy would be WAIT A MINUTE! 😂
The true training for goku
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Just getting off from work Suzy ❤
2:49 you have to remember you are watching DBZ not Kai so you are also watching filler thats why the pacing seems off
i loved to see your reactions during this video , Suzy
Nice one Suz i6:42 to 6:45
Lot of this is ret conned in the future, and next arc you’ll see king Kai’s story isn’t exactly the most accurate thing ever
Yeah it really gets confusing and they ruined it with so much fillers and pulling stuff out of their ass.
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Ooh this is going to be fun 🤩
Suzy, remember the name tuffles
No hero kill saijin planet!
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14:11 LMAO
Yo love the accent
Kay - oh - ken
kai, oh, kan
@vkdeen7570 the key(edited to kay) is like okay, except without the 0, kan is clearly ken which means sword.