@@Retoxxxxxx I wish they would have had Sgt. William Carney in this movie. It seems like they put pieces of Carney in Denzels Character, but Carney's story doesn't end in tragedy that's for sure! Trip went down with the flag at fort Wagner. Carney grabbed the flag, got shot then lead the charge up the hill to the fort. He planted the flag at the top and went to work, ralling everyone to a safe spot to continue the attack. They were eventually pushed back out of the fort but Sgt. Carney, already wounded, ran back up the hill to save the flag and got shot again. He made it back to his men saying "the old flag never touched the ground boys!". He was awarded the medal of honor for his actions at fort Wagner. They put a small direct easter egg ode to Carney in the movie during the Wagner battle at the end. After they storm the fort, you can see a man waving the American flag screaming "RALLY! RALLY!" prompting the 54th to form a firing line to deal with a counter attack. That was Sgt. William Carney.
@@PhillipV-qm4mf interesting story that of Sgt. Carney. I think I watched sonewhere in a documentary about the 54th that he crawled with one knee back to Federal lines. His famous photo of him with the regimental flag and crutches comes to mind!
Guys with glasses are stereotypically the most bullied, and he got bullied by everyone. Of course he needs to harness his repressed rage, especially in war.
Best part is that when they are allowed to fire at will, Jimhi Kennedy fires the first round. The dude who got so frazzled in training got it together.
Also pretty unrealistic to order a cavalry charge at the front of a firing line. You have a wall of men, armed with guns and bayonets. To charge directly is suicide. Cavalry is supposed to be used to break up enemy lines, preferably from the back or the flanks. To attack the front will do little else than rid you of your cavalry. A good commander would use his infantry to lock the enemy infantry then use cavalry to flank them, break up the line and force them to retreat. It's not easy, as a good commander can spot the weak flank and reinforce it, which prevents the cavalry from breaking the firing line, but it is so effective that it was used for over 2000 years. This tactic was even used as recently as the 1940's with tanks.
@erichvondonitz5325 agreed. They already defeated the white union troops and probably saw the black union troops and thought if we charge them and use the rebel yell those former slaves will run like hell. Little did they know many black union troops if not all were tough as nails and didn't mind fighting until the end as they knew what retreat or capture meant for them.
For those spewing revisionist history. The 54th Massachusetts Infantry suffered 43 casualties at James Island repelling Confederate advances until the 10th Connecticut could withdraw. The fighting depicted in the flim seems pretty accurate. The Confederates suffered 18 casualties on paper. But those numbers are debatable. The Confederacy was notorious for downplaying their losses to Black troops.
Насколько мне известно армия южан состояла из фермеров которые постоянно отстаивали своё имущество с оружием в руках, и к тому же они регулярно выходили на охоту. То есть оружием пользоваться умели. А вот в армию северян набирали в основном рабочих и городскую бедноту которые кроме как воровать да попрошайничать более ничего не умели, шутка.
Off of knowing nothing of this battle, I whole heartedly dispute this. Reason is, why would the Confederate numbers be a more popular figure of the battle than the Union numbers? If the Confederacy was notorious for downplaying losses to black troops, then wouldn't the Union be promoting the opposite? I would take the Union figures, and the Confederate figures, and draw a line somewhere in between.
At 3:33 the soldier reloading is the same soldier shaw would fire his weapon at the air and yell "FASTER" due to the fact he was a good shot but was not being properly trained. Officers teach soldiers how to survive.
So I looked up the real battle of James Island and it was quite...underwhelming compared to what is portrayed here. 14 Union troops were killed while only 3 Confederates were killed. The skirmish was more of a minor inconvenience for both sides.
@@jacobs2099 I mean maybe the size of the opposing forces is correct, doesn't look like a full army for neither the Union nor the Confederates, but the massacre and decisive victory shown here was a little more murky in real life. Like I said 3 Rebels were killed and 14 Yankees. Here you see the ground littered with bodies.
Yes and here it is depicted as a major battle, where the Yankees and their black soldiers win of course, leaving the place littered with dead Confederate bodies. In reality 14 Union troops killed and only 3 confederates killed. Typical Hollywood bullshit!
The scene shown here doesn't show the whole event of the battle. The Confederates have already driven back most of the Union Forces. The scene shown here is when the 54th Massachussetts arrives on the field to act as rearguard action to cover the retreating white regiment of the 10th Conneticut. The 54th suffered about 10 men dead and thirty wounded.
the 54th who survived these battles, many came out to Montana Territory after the war, & named Fort Shaw in honor of their colonel, who died in battle beside them
La verdad que esa escena me tenía confundido, ya que había notado también esa particularidad en cuestión. Pero imagino que son licencias de Hollywood, mi estimado señor.
I’m pretty sure they should’ve had them fixed when the cavalry charge because if they continued their charge they could’ve easily broke the line but if bayonets were fixed cavalry are less likely to charge into a line also cavalry would’ve still charged the like because even then lines are vulnerable as charging horses can still go through a wall of men and steel if it was going fast enough of course forming square is impossible in wooded area but cavalry actually rarely fought in heavily wooded areas and the terrain would limit their effectiveness but glory is still a pretty good movie and while not 100% historically accurate it’s still pretty good
yea silly continuity error the only thing i can think of is that they were not allowed to have bayonets fixed when the actors were loading the blank rounds out of fear they would slice their hands open.
So what exactly did you learn from this? This isn't a question to attack you, I'm just curious as to what High Schools talked about in 2010 when it came to this subject. It was always a interest of mine that did not get talked about in HS, oddly.
@@That_hobby_guy_uk Braveheart has the Battle of Stirling Bridge but without the bridge, the Scots capturing York which absolutely did not happen, Wallace sleeping with the Queen of England which is laughable and Mel inventing the Scottish use of the long spear formation or schilton. Wallace didn't invent it, they'd been using that tactic for a very long time. An absolute work of fiction and just an excuse for the nasty anti Semite Gibson to yet again have a go at the English. See also "The Patriot".
The actual battle was a mere skirmish. The 54th was deployed to cover the withdraw of the 10th Connecticut who was in danger of being flanked. They exchanged a few volleys with the Confederates, then retreated, having done their part. The 54th got the worst of it losing 45 men to the Confederates 18. However they proved they could perform under fire.
This is one of my all time favorite films about The American Civil War. So close to the real story of this regiment. The cast was well chosen because we have Simba and Robin Hood.
Watch Gettysburg or even better read The Killer Angels...this is a good movie but not a lot more historical than Braveheart) which has the record for getting Everything wrong... from the title to the finish... when was the bridge)
The commanding officer did not issue the order to reload after the smoke cleared up, allowing the enemy to get within range and fire first. The interchange of lead that followed would have been by rank, not by platoon and in the end he didnt even order to FIX bayonets!!! You can clearly see it jump from scene to scene. That captain would have been in a lot of trouble today 😂
I think it was the 2nd time I watched Glory that I noticed that little glitch. Insert quick cutscene of Broderick-Shaw yelling "Fix Bayonets" + brief close up view of dark skinned hand fitting bayonet onto musket barrel = problem fixed.
Now that you point that out most of the soldiers had their guns loaded too, even though they were not given the order to load nor did they have time to load before the melee began.
The editor thought "Will anyone care if we edit out the shot of a closeup of a guy meticulously attaching a bayonet? Nah probably not. This is the year 1989 after all, when nerds are still oppressed and silent, and probably will be forever, unless technology somehow allows them to complain anonymously without fear of reprisal."
It’s hard to imagine there was a time in historical warfare we went from an idea of “put as much protection on our guys as humanly possible” to “put on this blue shirt so we can id your body easier.”
2:45 I hate it, when a film throws me out of immersion because the editor didn't see, that they suddenly have their bajonets ready, but just moments before they hadn't... Just a simple scene with putting the bajonets on would have saved the immersion... How could they miss that, such a good film with great scenes, but this is hard to believe they ruined this one...
Maybe, but even if they had to do it due to studio rules, this seems to be ridiculous... 5 more seconds with the order "fix bayonet" and a close up of a bayonet fixed...
@@danielscrimgeour8812 Ah, yes... but they didn't at this time and can't be seen at any time doing so... and even this order sounded like some random guy said it out to himself, this wasn't a shouted officers order and it hasn't been recalled by the soldiers to make the order clear...
Still can’t believe an old classmate of mine is in a play with Matthew Broderick right now 😭❤️❤️. Freaking surreal. Go check out “Babbitt” starring the Matthew Broderick! And my good ole friend Sam Rodd. It’s pretty good I hear! If only I could see it…
Instead of reloading after seeing that the southern troops were returning, they should have reloaded after emptying rifles and have been ready to fire immediately!
Straight from AI The 54th Massachusetts Infantry Regiment fought in the Battle of Grimball's Landing on James Island in South Carolina on July 16, 1863: Battle The 54th Massachusetts fought off a Confederate attack on James Island, which was intended to weaken the defenses of Fort Wagner. The 54th Massachusetts held their ground against 900 Confederates, who were supported by a reserve of 3,000 men. The 54th Massachusetts suffered 45 casualties in the battle. On July 16, 1863, a force of 3,000 Confederates attacked the 3,800 strong Union garrison on James Island. During the battle, 900 Confederates assaulted a position held by 250 men of the 54th Massachusetts.
@@andrewroberts7428 Don't think so. Just watch the sequence. They seem to reload and fire at will witout fixed bayonets, then the Confederates charge and they counter charge with bayonets fixed this time.
I collect replica flags and the units number is on the battle flag. I found a real confederate flag at an antique mall that looked similar for a Cummings Georgia unit. Had the unit number and was a battle flag exactly like this. By 1863 units began to adopt it.
@@lukeskywanker7839 The video above is Grimball’s Landing lmao, it wasn’t even a proper battle but an engagement to allow infantry to evacuate. Every other battle they were in were Confederate victories💀
@@440SixPackEFI "While the Battle of Fort Wagner itself was not a decisive military victory for the Union, it is considered a turning point in the Civil War because the heroic charge of the 54th Massachusetts Infantry Regiment, an African American unit, significantly boosted the Union's recruitment of Black soldiers, adding a substantial number of troops to their ranks and demonstrating the bravery of African American fighters, which helped to further the cause of abolition" - I wouldn't call it a defeat if it was a major turning point for the Union. The 54th literally was one of the major units that turned the war in favor of the union.
@@lukeskywanker7839 The 54th was only major for being an All-Black unit, and they still had a bad engagement record. If you were speaking of symbolic importance yeah, appealing heavily to abolition movements and freedmen troops. There's a plethora of battles, campaigns and advantages to the military and its' logistics that won the war for the North. A freedmen unit is not that lmao
Great illustration of the importance of practical effects and analog equipment in creating proper atmosphere in historical film/fiction. It makes even this naive and subpar action scene look excellent.
Читаю все эти комментарии, и удивлюсь, как все хорошо знают историии своей страны. И Россиянам извесна истрия сша, одно не понятно для чего сейчас америка переписыват историю России и 2-й мировой войны 🤦♂️
Америчкој политици смета Русија и све што је везано за Русију. Стварање САД је засновано на злочину ,а после другог светског рата праве злочине по свијету. Русија,Србија, Кина,Грчка су цивилизације,а САД, Турска, Немачка, Француска, Британија имају само своје културе које су прилично освајачке и злочиначке.
One of the most amusing scene in otherwise good movie. Cavalry charging front of infantry in coherent position, which at the time none of the sides did as too costly; casvalry charging in the woods - another "centuryion-like" scene; bayinets mysteriously appearing on the rifles of the 54th just moment before charge...
En un momento de disparar los soldados de la Unión no tenian la bayoneta fijada. Pero al momentos de la carga en unos segundos ya avanzaban con la bayoneta puesta
@@markbirchall8225 They did fairly well in portraying the Battle of Chancellorsville. They didn't portray the best part of the battle though. The day after Jackson was mortally wounded, JEB Stuart took over Jackson's wing and begin heavy attacks on one side of the Yankee line, while Lee attacked the other side with his wing. The two wings met at Chancellor's house as the Yankees were driven into a compact mass. Then Lee rode into the scene. "The white smoke of musketry fringed the front of the line of battle, while the artillery on the hills in the rear of the infantry shook the earth with its thunder, and filled the air with the wild shrieks of the shells that plunged into the masses of the retreating foe. To add greater horror and sublimity to the scene, Chancellor House and the woods surrounding it were wrapped in flames. In the midst of this awful scene, General Lee, mounted upon that horse which we all remember so well, rode to the front of his advancing battalions. His presence was the signal for one of those outbursts of enthusiasm which none can appreciate who have not witnessed them. The fierce soldiers with their faces blackened with the smoke of battle, the wounded crawling with feeble limbs from the fury of the devouring flames, all seemed possessed with a common impulse. One long, unbroken cheer, in which the feeble cry of those who lay helpless on the earth blended with the strong voices of those who still fought, rose high above the roar of battle, and hailed the presence of the victorious chief. He sat in the fall realization of all that soldiers dream of-triumph; and as I looked upon him in the complete fruition of the success which his genius, courage, and confidence in his army had won, I thought that it must have been from such a scene that men in ancient days rose to the dignity of gods."
the bit i miss is a bad edit, the go from fire at will to a bayonet charge- without the order to "fix your, BAYONET!" I wanted to hear brodericks possibly quavering voice as he gave the order.
By 1864 a number of Confederate generals, seeing what the Afro-American soldiers were capable of suggested to President Davis that slaves should be given the opportunity to be given their freedom if they would join the Confederate army. President Davis was shocked by this suggestion but by 1865 he relented and agreed to this but by then it was too late
There are like 100 guns pointed at them and they killed about 10? Just a side note that every movies at the time shared. Overall this movie was so good. When people are fighting from their freedom the moral and determination is far beyond some people who fights for selfish interests of their leaders. It remains me how Finland beat Soviet Union. When you are fighting for the people you love and not for some idiotic cause it only makes average soldier an elite soldier.
There is misconception that rifles of that age were so inaccurate. The problem was that there were no clear shooting range horizontally. everyone aimed at the enemy who was nearest so the man leading the charge would en up with a 100 shots. I have done my military duty and I know that if I'm placed on the left I focus my aim to the area left of the enemy (from my side, right from the attackers side).
I know this is gonna sound ignorant of me but isn’t there more tactical way of fighting on both sides? Or was there rules in place of how battles were done?
they must have fixed bayonets between those scenes. I don't think that this film kept rolling without editing, so some parts are there, and other bits are missing.
At the beginning of this scene, there's a bunch of white soldiers, carrying a blue banner, and running past the 54th's line. Those men represent the 10th Connecticut Infantry. When the Battle of Grimball's Landing began, one company, Company H, of the 54th was serving as picket guards, and are assaulted by 1,400 Confederates. The black troops held their line for some time. It is said that a Confederate officer, mounted on a horse, attempted to kill the company commander, Captain Cabot Russell by riding up to and hacking at the Federal officer with his sword, only to be shot out of the saddle by a black soldier. The picket's stubborn holding allowed the 10th Connecticut, in danger of being surrounded and cut off, to retreat as the bulk of the 54th Massachusetts arrived. From there the Confederates did weak attacks and opened fire with artillery, that was aimed to high and did not do a lot of damage. The black troop's defense, coupled with thick undergrowth and swamp, the Federal Navy now firing back as well as a Connecticut battery forced the Confederates to abort their assault, and retreat.
The repulse of Sherman's attack on The Bloody Angle at Kennesaw Mountain Georgia where the Tennessee regiments of General Johnston were outnumbered 10-1 would be a great movie. Not politically correct but historically correct.
if it's not politically correct you are doomed. Even if it's the truth. History around the world is being re-written, particularly any inconvenient truths.
Una de las tantas batallas durante la Guerra Civil o de Secesión entre los Estados del Norte y los Estados del Sur de hecho hubo una serie durante la década del 80 llamada Norte y Sur que recreaba ese conflicto en Estados Unidos
did soldiers need orders to do that? I mean it was obvious that it needed doing..... I'm damned sure I wouldn't have needed an order for that. Self preservation.
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I love how the dude in the glasses was the “weakest link” but he got the most bayonet kills. Let all that anger out my good man!
All that training and built up anger finally came out! Thomas was my favorite followed by Denzels character.
@@Retoxxxxxx I wish they would have had Sgt. William Carney in this movie. It seems like they put pieces of Carney in Denzels Character, but Carney's story doesn't end in tragedy that's for sure! Trip went down with the flag at fort Wagner.
Carney grabbed the flag, got shot then lead the charge up the hill to the fort. He planted the flag at the top and went to work, ralling everyone to a safe spot to continue the attack. They were eventually pushed back out of the fort but Sgt. Carney, already wounded, ran back up the hill to save the flag and got shot again.
He made it back to his men saying "the old flag never touched the ground boys!". He was awarded the medal of honor for his actions at fort Wagner.
They put a small direct easter egg ode to Carney in the movie during the Wagner battle at the end. After they storm the fort, you can see a man waving the American flag screaming "RALLY! RALLY!" prompting the 54th to form a firing line to deal with a counter attack. That was Sgt. William Carney.
@@PhillipV-qm4mf interesting story that of Sgt. Carney. I think I watched sonewhere in a documentary about the 54th that he crawled with one knee back to Federal lines. His famous photo of him with the regimental flag and crutches comes to mind!
Guys with glasses are stereotypically the most bullied, and he got bullied by everyone. Of course he needs to harness his repressed rage, especially in war.
Holt got no chill
Best part is that when they are allowed to fire at will, Jimhi Kennedy fires the first round. The dude who got so frazzled in training got it together.
I’m reminded why there are so few if any cavalry charges in a forest.
Trees, bushes, roots, holes, and branches made any charge near impossible
yep...
Also pretty unrealistic to order a cavalry charge at the front of a firing line. You have a wall of men, armed with guns and bayonets. To charge directly is suicide.
Cavalry is supposed to be used to break up enemy lines, preferably from the back or the flanks. To attack the front will do little else than rid you of your cavalry.
A good commander would use his infantry to lock the enemy infantry then use cavalry to flank them, break up the line and force them to retreat. It's not easy, as a good commander can spot the weak flank and reinforce it, which prevents the cavalry from breaking the firing line, but it is so effective that it was used for over 2000 years. This tactic was even used as recently as the 1940's with tanks.
@@magnusbjarni The only explanation I could think of is just confederates being confident that the black troops would be easily broken
@erichvondonitz5325 agreed. They already defeated the white union troops and probably saw the black union troops and thought if we charge them and use the rebel yell those former slaves will run like hell. Little did they know many black union troops if not all were tough as nails and didn't mind fighting until the end as they knew what retreat or capture meant for them.
For those spewing revisionist history. The 54th Massachusetts Infantry suffered 43 casualties at James Island repelling Confederate advances until the 10th Connecticut could withdraw. The fighting depicted in the flim seems pretty accurate. The Confederates suffered 18 casualties on paper. But those numbers are debatable. The Confederacy was notorious for downplaying their losses to Black troops.
False
@LX.Zandaaa62 "False"
What's false?
Насколько мне известно армия южан состояла из фермеров которые постоянно отстаивали своё имущество с оружием в руках, и к тому же они регулярно выходили на охоту. То есть оружием пользоваться умели. А вот в армию северян набирали в основном рабочих и городскую бедноту которые кроме как воровать да попрошайничать более ничего не умели, шутка.
Off of knowing nothing of this battle, I whole heartedly dispute this. Reason is, why would the Confederate numbers be a more popular figure of the battle than the Union numbers? If the Confederacy was notorious for downplaying losses to black troops, then wouldn't the Union be promoting the opposite? I would take the Union figures, and the Confederate figures, and draw a line somewhere in between.
@@serjant6478kindly stop trolling the US with nonsense. Plenty of Union troopers knew how to shoot.
At 3:33 the soldier reloading is the same soldier shaw would fire his weapon at the air and yell "FASTER" due to the fact he was a good shot but was not being properly trained. Officers teach soldiers how to survive.
So I looked up the real battle of James Island and it was quite...underwhelming compared to what is portrayed here. 14 Union troops were killed while only 3 Confederates were killed. The skirmish was more of a minor inconvenience for both sides.
Honestly looks about right. This is just a skirmish, specifically in the context of the Civil War.
@@jacobs2099 I mean maybe the size of the opposing forces is correct, doesn't look like a full army for neither the Union nor the Confederates, but the massacre and decisive victory shown here was a little more murky in real life. Like I said 3 Rebels were killed and 14 Yankees. Here you see the ground littered with bodies.
Revisionist history. Just tell the real story
Yes and here it is depicted as a major battle, where the Yankees and their black soldiers win of course, leaving the place littered with dead Confederate bodies. In reality 14 Union troops killed and only 3 confederates killed. Typical Hollywood bullshit!
The scene shown here doesn't show the whole event of the battle. The Confederates have already driven back most of the Union Forces. The scene shown here is when the 54th Massachussetts arrives on the field to act as rearguard action to cover the retreating white regiment of the 10th Conneticut. The 54th suffered about 10 men dead and thirty wounded.
the 54th who survived these battles, many came out to Montana Territory after the war, & named Fort Shaw in honor of their colonel, who died in battle beside them
Officer:Fire at will!!
That one guy named Will:Hey what did I do?
But the strangest thing is Will made it out alive.................
I love that joke.
@@mrphatmunkeyspew6969where there’s a will there’s a way
“Which one is Will?!” 😂 💀
Will said "F**K, that's not fair Sir"
No bayonets and then by magic bayonets fitted.
La verdad que esa escena me tenía confundido, ya que había notado también esa particularidad en cuestión. Pero imagino que son licencias de Hollywood, mi estimado señor.
@@juanmanuelparadacontreras9565 I was just going to comment about the magical bayonets
I've watched this movie countless times since it's release and I never noticed that before! Lol nice one
I’m pretty sure they should’ve had them fixed when the cavalry charge because if they continued their charge they could’ve easily broke the line but if bayonets were fixed cavalry are less likely to charge into a line also cavalry would’ve still charged the like because even then lines are vulnerable as charging horses can still go through a wall of men and steel if it was going fast enough of course forming square is impossible in wooded area but cavalry actually rarely fought in heavily wooded areas and the terrain would limit their effectiveness but glory is still a pretty good movie and while not 100% historically accurate it’s still pretty good
yea silly continuity error the only thing i can think of is that they were not allowed to have bayonets fixed when the actors were loading the blank rounds out of fear they would slice their hands open.
I love this movie back in my days of My High School in 2010’s because I was good at learning about U.S. Military History Timeline
they were showing us this in irish secondary school in the early 2000s lol.
Nice to see this in high quality.
So what exactly did you learn from this? This isn't a question to attack you, I'm just curious as to what High Schools talked about in 2010 when it came to this subject. It was always a interest of mine that did not get talked about in HS, oddly.
@@Retoxxxxxx idk about the op but our history teacher just wanted to show us a very good war movie lol.
@@RetoxxxxxxDidn’t you meant 2010’s
It’s really a treat when old school battle scenes like this are done well. Glory, The Patriot, Braveheart. Just great battle scenes.
Braveheart is not well done at all a complete work of fiction 😂
@@That_hobby_guy_uk Braveheart has the Battle of Stirling Bridge but without the bridge, the Scots capturing York which absolutely did not happen, Wallace sleeping with the Queen of England which is laughable and Mel inventing the Scottish use of the long spear formation or schilton. Wallace didn't invent it, they'd been using that tactic for a very long time. An absolute work of fiction and just an excuse for the nasty anti Semite Gibson to yet again have a go at the English. See also "The Patriot".
@@That_hobby_guy_uk The Patriot is almost as bad!!
@That_hobby_guy_uk Yes, they missed the bit where Wallace makes a scabbard out of a man's skin.
You should watch Gettysburg. It’s outstanding
One of the best movies of all time.
The actual battle was a mere skirmish. The 54th was deployed to cover the withdraw of the 10th Connecticut who was in danger of being flanked. They exchanged a few volleys with the Confederates, then retreated, having done their part. The 54th got the worst of it losing 45 men to the Confederates 18. However they proved they could perform under fire.
Delaying actions usually means you are disadvantaged so the union loosing more doesn’t surprise me, what’s most important is that they didn’t break.
This is one of my all time favorite films about The American Civil War. So close to the real story of this regiment. The cast was well chosen because we have Simba and Robin Hood.
Watch Gettysburg or even better read The Killer Angels...this is a good movie but not a lot more historical than Braveheart) which has the record for getting Everything wrong... from the title to the finish... when was the bridge)
The commanding officer did not issue the order to reload after the smoke cleared up, allowing the enemy to get within range and fire first. The interchange of lead that followed would have been by rank, not by platoon and in the end he didnt even order to FIX bayonets!!! You can clearly see it jump from scene to scene. That captain would have been in a lot of trouble today 😂
Not as much trouble as the continuity person would be in.
lol..yep, its hollywood nonsense
its a movie just suspend your disbelief
I love this movie. But, in this scene, when was the order to "fix bayonets" given?
I thought the same thing they just suddenly appeared
I think it was the 2nd time I watched Glory that I noticed that little glitch.
Insert quick cutscene of Broderick-Shaw yelling "Fix Bayonets" + brief close up view of dark skinned hand fitting bayonet onto musket barrel = problem fixed.
During editing.
Now that you point that out most of the soldiers had their guns loaded too, even though they were not given the order to load nor did they have time to load before the melee began.
The editor thought "Will anyone care if we edit out the shot of a closeup of a guy meticulously attaching a bayonet? Nah probably not. This is the year 1989 after all, when nerds are still oppressed and silent, and probably will be forever, unless technology somehow allows them to complain anonymously without fear of reprisal."
Sergeant Major Mulcahy did am outstanding job training and preparing the men for combat!!
Still one of my favorite movies ever.
Same.
I've watched this movie many times. Still trying to figure out which one is Will! Just the same, what a GREAT movie!
They should've IMMEDIATLY reloaded after blasting that calvary charge.
Agreed, that's bad leadership
It’s hard to imagine there was a time in historical warfare we went from an idea of “put as much protection on our guys as humanly possible” to “put on this blue shirt so we can id your body easier.”
The British were even worse bright red uniforms
0:44 the cavalry saying woooooo got me😂
Got the Rick Flair thing going 😂
Woooooooooooooo!
The good ol rebel yell ❤
That's Indian cry right?
@@NagvanshieusMostly some Yee Yee’s from southerners, although there were Cherokee Confederate volunteers.
Bro, they were like WOOOOOOOO- 0:44
One of the most brutal & tragic wars in the history of mankind & thats saying something.
Ahh, WWI? By means of new war tech alone, WWI was fucking scary in the trenches, not to mention miserable conditions for the soldiers.
@mryrius yeah, it was a modern war that started with old war tactics
I'd say world War 1 is the most brutal
2:45 I hate it, when a film throws me out of immersion because the editor didn't see, that they suddenly have their bajonets ready, but just moments before they hadn't... Just a simple scene with putting the bajonets on would have saved the immersion... How could they miss that, such a good film with great scenes, but this is hard to believe they ruined this one...
I noticed that too but whatever editors
Could have been studio interference. Studios want movies under a certain length and that could have been a scene they cut.
Maybe, but even if they had to do it due to studio rules, this seems to be ridiculous... 5 more seconds with the order "fix bayonet" and a close up of a bayonet fixed...
@@Microbe1972 fix bayonets can be heard at 1:49
@@danielscrimgeour8812 Ah, yes... but they didn't at this time and can't be seen at any time doing so... and even this order sounded like some random guy said it out to himself, this wasn't a shouted officers order and it hasn't been recalled by the soldiers to make the order clear...
No bayonets. Suddenly bayonets. Lol. Still a great movie.
Un pelotón curtido, motivado y experimentado podía librar batalla a quién sea...
1:35 always gets me 😂🤣🤣
Still can’t believe an old classmate of mine is in a play with Matthew Broderick right now 😭❤️❤️. Freaking surreal.
Go check out “Babbitt” starring the Matthew Broderick! And my good ole friend Sam Rodd.
It’s pretty good I hear! If only I could see it…
A bayonet charge was something you as a commander would try avoid since you loose all control.
2:59 lol that sound effect was too funny
Instead of reloading after seeing that the southern troops were returning, they should have reloaded after emptying rifles and have been ready to fire immediately!
It’s a film mate
@ Of course it’s a film! Historical accuracy should be adhered to though-Mate!
True. But it's also a green unit that just experienced their first fight, and thought they had won.
@@stephendriscoll7549 thats BS and you know it
@@Pool-h5w It’s not and I don’t!
can't believe this movie came out 35 years ago...doesn't seem like it
Straight from AI
The 54th Massachusetts Infantry Regiment fought in the Battle of Grimball's Landing on James Island in South Carolina on July 16, 1863:
Battle
The 54th Massachusetts fought off a Confederate attack on James Island, which was intended to weaken the defenses of Fort Wagner. The 54th Massachusetts held their ground against 900 Confederates, who were supported by a reserve of 3,000 men. The 54th Massachusetts suffered 45 casualties in the battle.
On July 16, 1863, a force of 3,000 Confederates attacked the 3,800 strong Union garrison on James Island. During the battle, 900 Confederates assaulted a position held by 250 men of the 54th Massachusetts.
Great film about a brutal savage war, civil wars are the worst brother against brother.
I like to Imagine a black regiment in a total war game would not have its moral bar break in any circumstance.
So when did they fix bayonets?
while firing at will
@@andrewroberts7428 Don't think so. Just watch the sequence. They seem to reload and fire at will witout fixed bayonets, then the Confederates charge and they counter charge with bayonets fixed this time.
@@andrewroberts7428 what did will do to deserve that 😨
“Hollywood logic”.
Needed Jeff Daniels to pop out from behind a tree..."BAYONETSSSSSS"
Great cinematic scene!
You see that! The Equalizer was there in the civil war tearing up REBS!
Tackle him to the ground 3:20
4:05 "Hit with stick! Hit with stick!" *Whack Whack* "Die! Ya bastard."
just insane how they fought back then
At 1:49 they say fix bayonets, ai had missed that and originally wrote: "They didn't tell them to fix bayonets and all of a suden they have bayonets"
When did the 54th fix bayonets? One cut their bayonets are not fixed.....next cut, they are.
Too many Great Actors
So the rebs had a South Carolina flag and an Army of Northern Virginia battle flag from a Georgia regiment?🤔 Come on…
You forget that were rebels from different states mix and inbeded together too
I collect replica flags and the units number is on the battle flag. I found a real confederate flag at an antique mall that looked similar for a Cummings Georgia unit. Had the unit number and was a battle flag exactly like this. By 1863 units began to adopt it.
Best CSM ever
Give em hell 54th.
>loses every engagement
@@440SixPackEFI Cope asf and false.
@@lukeskywanker7839 The video above is Grimball’s Landing lmao, it wasn’t even a proper battle but an engagement to allow infantry to evacuate. Every other battle they were in were Confederate victories💀
@@440SixPackEFI "While the Battle of Fort Wagner itself was not a decisive military victory for the Union, it is considered a turning point in the Civil War because the heroic charge of the 54th Massachusetts Infantry Regiment, an African American unit, significantly boosted the Union's recruitment of Black soldiers, adding a substantial number of troops to their ranks and demonstrating the bravery of African American fighters, which helped to further the cause of abolition" - I wouldn't call it a defeat if it was a major turning point for the Union.
The 54th literally was one of the major units that turned the war in favor of the union.
@@lukeskywanker7839 The 54th was only major for being an All-Black unit, and they still had a bad engagement record. If you were speaking of symbolic importance yeah, appealing heavily to abolition movements and freedmen troops. There's a plethora of battles, campaigns and advantages to the military and its' logistics that won the war for the North. A freedmen unit is not that lmao
4:04 when you have gotten a nightmare and you are woken up by your brother.
Fun fact, this battle took place 2 years after the assault on fort Wagner and it was the 55th Massachusetts not the 54th.
100% smoke
3% efficiency
Great illustration of the importance of practical effects and analog equipment in creating proper atmosphere in historical film/fiction. It makes even this naive and subpar action scene look excellent.
My favorite Civil War movie 😢
Col. Robert Bueller: life moves pretty fast. If you don't stop and look around once in a while, you might miss it.... CHARGE!!"
I watched this movie too while i was in middle school and high school
A great movie.
he learned to reload fast though😂
Yikes, that's so realistic. Hard to find movies like that these days.
"Fire at Will!... In case you didn't know, Will is the one in the yellow shirt!"
I always wondered if the civil war was where Warhammer 40,000 got the idea for officers to wield a pistol and sword...
Читаю все эти комментарии, и удивлюсь, как все хорошо знают историии своей страны. И Россиянам извесна истрия сша, одно не понятно для чего сейчас америка переписыват историю России и 2-й мировой войны 🤦♂️
Америчкој политици смета Русија и све што је везано за Русију. Стварање САД је засновано на злочину ,а после другог светског рата праве злочине по свијету. Русија,Србија, Кина,Грчка су цивилизације,а САД, Турска, Немачка, Француска, Британија имају само своје културе које су прилично освајачке и злочиначке.
Porque es una nueva Guerra Fría 2.0 amigo.
The reason some would retract facing the enemy is because being shot in the back would make you a coward to your family
I love how hollywood does this. Make something more than it was.....
This movie was worse than watching the Ateam back in the day 😂
I always imagine the guy with the glasses is a descendent of doc from Hamburger Hill
Respect
One of the most amusing scene in otherwise good movie. Cavalry charging front of infantry in coherent position, which at the time none of the sides did as too costly; casvalry charging in the woods - another "centuryion-like" scene; bayinets mysteriously appearing on the rifles of the 54th just moment before charge...
En un momento de disparar los soldados de la Unión no tenian la bayoneta fijada. Pero al momentos de la carga en unos segundos ya avanzaban con la bayoneta puesta
5:32 - What an odd thing to say to a friend who was just shot.
What would you say?
Imagine how different things would be if they had one mg42
I thought this movie was mediocre compared to the likes of Gettysburg and Gods and Generals
Agreed. Never thought Ferris Beuller was a convincing officer.
Both Gettysburg and Gods and Generals had reenactors in the moives they basically played all the extra with there own kit
Gods and Generals was just a bloated, pretentious mess of a film.
@@markbirchall8225 They did fairly well in portraying the Battle of Chancellorsville. They didn't portray the best part of the battle though. The day after Jackson was mortally wounded, JEB Stuart took over Jackson's wing and begin heavy attacks on one side of the Yankee line, while Lee attacked the other side with his wing. The two wings met at Chancellor's house as the Yankees were driven into a compact mass. Then Lee rode into the scene.
"The white smoke of musketry fringed the front of the line of battle, while the artillery on the hills in the rear of the infantry shook the earth with its thunder, and filled the air with the wild shrieks of the shells that plunged into the masses of the retreating foe. To add greater horror and sublimity to the scene, Chancellor House and the woods surrounding it were wrapped in flames. In the midst of this awful scene, General Lee, mounted upon that horse which we all remember so well, rode to the front of his advancing battalions. His presence was the signal for one of those outbursts of enthusiasm which none can appreciate who have not witnessed them.
The fierce soldiers with their faces blackened with the smoke of battle, the wounded crawling with feeble limbs from the fury of the devouring flames, all seemed possessed with a common impulse. One long, unbroken cheer, in which the feeble cry of those who lay helpless on the earth blended with the strong voices of those who still fought, rose high above the roar of battle, and hailed the presence of the victorious chief. He sat in the fall realization of all that soldiers dream of-triumph; and as I looked upon him in the complete fruition of the success which his genius, courage, and confidence in his army had won, I thought that it must have been from such a scene that men in ancient days rose to the dignity of gods."
This is not an accurate portrayal of the battle.
But it’s a great cinematic scene!
You win some. . . You lose some?
First time watching:
reload
Reload!
RELOAD!!!
We be soldiers.
Yeeee
the bit i miss is a bad edit, the go from fire at will to a bayonet charge- without the order to "fix your, BAYONET!" I wanted to hear brodericks possibly quavering voice as he gave the order.
1:14 Did these confederate cavalry 'Light' or 'Heavy' type?
By 1864 a number of Confederate generals, seeing what the Afro-American soldiers were capable of suggested to President Davis that slaves should be given the opportunity to be given their freedom if they would join the Confederate army. President Davis was shocked by this suggestion but by 1865 he relented and agreed to this but by then it was too late
There are like 100 guns pointed at them and they killed about 10? Just a side note that every movies at the time shared. Overall this movie was so good. When people are fighting from their freedom the moral and determination is far beyond some people who fights for selfish interests of their leaders. It remains me how Finland beat Soviet Union. When you are fighting for the people you love and not for some idiotic cause it only makes average soldier an elite soldier.
There is misconception that rifles of that age were so inaccurate. The problem was that there were no clear shooting range horizontally. everyone aimed at the enemy who was nearest so the man leading the charge would en up with a 100 shots. I have done my military duty and I know that if I'm placed on the left I focus my aim to the area left of the enemy (from my side, right from the attackers side).
Las batallas de esa época eran brutales
I know this is gonna sound ignorant of me but isn’t there more tactical way of fighting on both sides? Or was there rules in place of how battles were done?
I’ve been to James island
El bautizo de batalla de estos afrodescendientes en tan extraordinaria película.
Great film. Poor editing. At 2.45 they are shooting with no bayonets fixed then in the next scene (2.47) they charge with bayonets fixed
they must have fixed bayonets between those scenes. I don't think that this film kept rolling without editing, so some parts are there, and other bits are missing.
At the beginning of this scene, there's a bunch of white soldiers, carrying a blue banner, and running past the 54th's line. Those men represent the 10th Connecticut Infantry.
When the Battle of Grimball's Landing began, one company, Company H, of the 54th was serving as picket guards, and are assaulted by 1,400 Confederates. The black troops held their line for some time. It is said that a Confederate officer, mounted on a horse, attempted to kill the company commander, Captain Cabot Russell by riding up to and hacking at the Federal officer with his sword, only to be shot out of the saddle by a black soldier.
The picket's stubborn holding allowed the 10th Connecticut, in danger of being surrounded and cut off, to retreat as the bulk of the 54th Massachusetts arrived. From there the Confederates did weak attacks and opened fire with artillery, that was aimed to high and did not do a lot of damage.
The black troop's defense, coupled with thick undergrowth and swamp, the Federal Navy now firing back as well as a Connecticut battery forced the Confederates to abort their assault, and retreat.
Intense
Una buena película de corte histórico
The repulse of Sherman's attack on The Bloody Angle at Kennesaw Mountain Georgia where the Tennessee regiments of General Johnston were outnumbered 10-1 would be a great movie. Not politically correct but historically correct.
if it's not politically correct you are doomed. Even if it's the truth.
History around the world is being re-written, particularly any inconvenient truths.
I’d pay money to watch it 💵
I don't remember the command to fix bayonets.
Puro Veracruz si señor 🎉🎉
I love the fort wagner part. I like watching the rebs paint the beach. The fort was never taken.
😂🤡
I like the part where the United States becomes a mostly non White country in 2040. It happens after the movie.
Una de las tantas batallas durante la Guerra Civil o de Secesión entre los Estados del Norte y los Estados del Sur de hecho hubo una serie durante la década del 80 llamada Norte y Sur que recreaba ese conflicto en Estados Unidos
At some point someone with common sense should have said take cover and fire...
Bayonet off... bayonet ON :D
wich is the most honorable war to die in ?
0:51 bro act like he got shoot😂
Magic bullet, bad editing
yeah it's actors doing a movie
총검술 멋지다….
When did the 54th fix bayonets, they just appear. Never noticed it before
Continuity error
They cut it
Cavalry wouldn't charge like that in a wooded area or at a formation ready to fire
When were the black troops ordered to fix bayonets
Lol how does something like that go unnoticed by hundreds of ppl filling & editing?
did soldiers need orders to do that? I mean it was obvious that it needed doing..... I'm damned sure I wouldn't have needed an order for that. Self preservation.
In the opening scene, in the Civil war, cavalry almost never charged massed infantry - fake.
Why does the guy at 4:12 kinda look like Abraham Lincoln like he has a similar beard and looks similar to him