Re-Release Figures or Nah?
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- With Hasbro and Mattel giving collectors second chances at getting figures they missed out on there's some debate whether that's a good thing for the future of lines. Where do you weigh in on the discussion?
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I think if we're all being honest enough, the only people who don't like re-releases are the people who already have that figure. They like the comfort of knowing they can enjoy a valuable figure and that they can flip it at any time if they need a little extra cash. For everyone else, they love reissues.
I think we've all been there where a company reissues a figure that we missed out on, and we love that feeling. So I appreciate that more, newer collectors also can have that experience too. I'm not a collector because of a financial investment. I just do it for the fun and enjoyment. Because really, give it enough time anyway and all of these figures will be just as worthless as the toys from the 60s and 70s are now, but the fun and appreciation can be enjoyed now. So giving more people that opportunity to enjoy this hobby is ultimately what it's all about.
If we can't get more people into the hobby by giving them the chance to enjoy the characters that they love, then our hobby is surely dead in the water.
I agree with everything you said except for the part about the 1960s and 1970s toys. A lot of those toys, a great percentage of them, are worth insane amounts of money, especially in good condition. Thousands, even tens of thousands of dollars. But that's because toys were only marketed to kids back then and no one used them as collectibles. Kids played with them, outgrew them, threw the out. So they became collectibles because they're rare. Modern toys are overproduced and not worth much or they're created with artificial scarcity to jack up the price.
@@Vintage-Bob I'm not from that era so I'm not very familiar with many of the lines but I've heard that lines from around that time have basically become valueless because nobody wants them. Stuff like The Six Million Dollar Man, Megos, or 12" GI Joes. There was a time when people from that era were 30 years old and wanted to go back and collect the toys from their childhood, but those guys are now in their 50s and 60s and don't care about that anymore. I often wonder if that's how stuff like He-Man or Thundercats will be in another 15 years.
It may be even worse for current toy lines now, because very few of them are original lines anymore. Like take Marvel Legends for example, like from Jeff's points about Silver Surfer.
If any company is making toys in 20 years time, the Silver Surfer from that line will be miles ahead of what we currently have now, and nobody in 2044 is going to care enough to try and track down that random Walgreens exclusive 2019 figure anymore. So you get far enough removed from the release, and it'll basically just fade off into history and be forgotten. I don't know if anybody is going to want our GI Joe Classifieds, or MOTU classics, or Super7 Turtles. Pretty much everything we collect now will go that same way, I think.
@@fortressmattimus3984 Not sure where you heard that but I can assure you its not true. For example, there is a Six Million Dollar Man Venus Space Probe selling on ebay now - loose! - for $2,000. I saw one awhile back mint in box for $10,000! I've seen the 1972 GI Joe HQ sell recently for $500. Scorpio from the Major Matt Mason line in the late 60s just sold for $600. A mint in box Capt. Lazer will cost you a good $400+ and I've seen it sell as high as $1,200. And consider that prices are down right now (in 2024) because so many people lost entire businesses during the lockdowns, people are out of work, and inflation is sky high - everything is going up (food, computers, gas, electricity, clothing, etc) and people can't afford toys and other luxuries. That's the real reason some of those old toys aren't selling for the astronomical prices they were getting just a few years ago. People simply don't have the disposable income they used to have just a few years ago
I think you're right about new toy lines though. Like I mentioned earlier, the older toys were made for kids. Adults did not buy toys back then. Kids got toys, they played them to death, got older, discovered girls and cars, and then when they went off to college their parents tossed all that stuff in the garbage. Stereotypical toy story. So that stuff became very rare, especially mint in box or in great shape. Now the toy companies market toys to adults, who carefully pose them on a display shelf so that even 20 years later they're in virtually unused condition. So there will always be far more supply (and in great condition) than demand for most of these figures and prices will never go high like the older toys of earlier decades did.
I'm not sure how much I agree with the point about people outgrowing their desire for the older toys. I'd still love to be able to afford and collect most of the toys I had as a kid in the 1960s-70s. Same for the comics. I have scans I've found on various sites online. I have well over 6,000 issues of various Marvel and DC comics on my computer, but I'd still love to get my hands on most of them in their original physical form. And I do know plenty of other people, for example, who are in their 60s and 70s who are still bidding on and collecting toys that came out in the 1960s and 1970s. A lot of them are hardcore, fanatic collectors. I'd be one myself if I had that kind of income! LOL! I wish!
💯right I respect everything your saying give the New or old collectors an opportunity too enjoy and love the action figures as we all do
Great point about keeping the hobby going. Our favorite lines can always use the infusion of new collectors especially for decades-long lines like Marvel Legends!
Oh, no. Please don't re-release the Hellfire Club set. That would be awful. Think of all the poor people who won't have to pay Mafex prices for $25 figures.
lol. They haven’t done many of those packs now that you mention it. I wouldn’t mind more comic accurate colors for Shaw and Pierce too.
I lucked out big time - Hasbro sent me the Hellfire Club box set for FREE when I called about a quality control issue on some other figure. I later got Mastermind/Jason Wyngarde (who should have been included) but they never made Leland!
@@Vintage-BobI just contacted Hasbro about the ankle of my VHS Cyclops broke during normal use. I wonder if I’ll get anything interesting. It’s shipping right now.
@@OpticBlast-yk5hf Let's hope so! I gave them the lecture about how I've been buying Hasbro toys since the first GI Joes were released in the 1960s and how they need to do something about quality control. I almost fell over when I opened the box and saw a set of Hellfire Club! I called back and said "Thank you, thank you, thank you" LOL! Hopefully they send you something really awesome! I'd die if they sent you a Haslab Giantman! That would beat my story to death! 😃
Figures are for people to collect and have fun ! Not to buy them up to rip people off ! I'm happy we are getting releases especially! When people are so greedy these days and people can't get them . As for ebay they scam the sellers ! .
Yeah, I think there are better investments than figures that end up just messing over collectors who just want the figure.
I want more sipdy villains to get a Re-release. Like
1. Green goblin
2. Electro
3. Mysterio
4. Black cat
5. Lizzard
6. Rhino and one Non spider man villain MJ in her jeans and black t shirt.
I might be mistaken but I thought they did rerelease Black Cat.
100% yes but only for high demanded/scalped to oblivion figures. Kingpin is going for insane amounts on the aftermarket and due to the vhs daredevil hydro man two pack, people now NEED a Kingpin to go with him. So it's smart of hasbro to do that. As long as the re release makes sense and is a figure people actually wanted, then it's fine by me
So far what they've re-released has sold out so they seem for now to have a good handle on what to put back out in rotation.
I love these rereleases. I haven’t been able to get silver surfer. But getting king pin on card to add to my carded retro Spider-Man card collection is great. Toys are not investments. I want so many more. I love it!
I agree. I love that folks are getting a chance to get stuff they missed even if it’s a few years later!
I'm for figures being re-released. Especially if it's hard to find figures like the Walgreen's exclusives X-Men like Magik and Mystique. The Dark Phoenix is a must for me. Toys R Us was going under when it came out and it made it even more difficult to get.
That set was VERY hard for a lot of collectors to track down!
Shouldn't be about values. Should all own it cause you want it.
I'm with you!
Gotta luv re-releasing… even if u already got the figure, money saved is a win in my book! 😂😂😂
Right! And this year they’ve definitely put out a lot of figures so I can use the break.
Reissues are a win for collectors and a win for manufacturers who see money to made and as a way to attract new customers if done correctly. I was waiting a long time for Mafex Hush Batman, the reissue saved me a lot of money and makes me hopeful for popular previously released figs to come back around
Exactly! It's a huge win for folk who previously missed out on a figure.
I am all for it! Let people fill in the gaps in their collection.
It's the fairest way to go!
As a collector who has come upon hard times recently, (and in the the past) I appreciate the opportunity to re-purchase a figure I might have had to sell off previously. My true desire though would be re-releases with modern tech refreshes. That classic Cyclops from the TRU 2-pack is a perfect example. Great topic Jeff.
Thanks man! And for sure it's helpful for collectors who had to pause collecting due to financial stress.
I will only have issues with re-releases if the price is way above the original price. Don’t believe colossus and juggernaut was originally $75.
Yeah it was actually $60
Smaller production runs and inflation probably
I’m all for rereleases
I’ve been collecting since about 1975, I collected because I enjoyed the toys, and comics. Almost 50 years later I don’t care about the value of figures or comics. I think re-release are great!!!
Agreed. Let everyone have that same joy of getting the figures they want.
I'm sorry, but you folks buying two figures just in case one goes up in value are a real pain in the ass. When I was a kid, I was told to make sure everyone got firsts before I took seconds. I know that might sound simplistic and that the realities of the world mean that you are financially motivated, and perhaps smarter, for doing so. It just really sucks to be the guy who got there five minutes too late only for the figure that might be opened and put into my display to end up sitting in your closet until you decide it's time to charge me a premium for it. These are toys. These are not stocks and bonds.
It seems like it'd be a lot of hard work checking eBay just to see what figures to buy!
I tend to be outspoken and am not known for sugar coating things, so I hope this doesn't come off as too harsh, but I find most of these "toy investors" to be greedy, foolish, and childish. If you want money, get a job. If you want investments, look into the stock market or buy gold or Bitcoin. It's foolish to use toys as collectibles. These figures sell for $25 and scalpers try selling them on Ebay for $50. A $25 profit and how many hours spent taking pics, writing up the auction and driving to the post office to ship them? It's silly. I think it's foolish to use these things as investments. You're making less than minimum wage. No one is paying their mortgage re-selling Marvel Legends and if someone claims they do, I want to see the evidence.
They're also greedy and childish because their attitude is - "I don't want other collectors to get a figure they want and enjoy the hobby because I want to make a few bucks off my investment". They want to buy figure and then price gouge other collectors by trying to sell it at double the original cost. As I said, that's why we have gold and the stock market. I have 250+ Marvel legends figures and at an average of $25 apiece, that's $6,250 invested into the hobby. If tomorrow I found out they were each worth $1 on ebay, I would not care because I buy them for fun, not as a "investment".
The whole mentality of "I have this toy and no one else should be able to have it" is childish. It's a HOBBY, people. It's meant to be fun.
I am all in favor of re-releases - identical or better done re-releases. In the real world, sometimes the budget simply says "no" and you miss a figure you wanted. Or you may not get a figure now and later change your mind and decide you want it after all. I think Hasbro should do what Mego used to do with their 8" action figures - sell each figure perpetually until sales drop. In other words, now that Kingpin has sold out again, re-release him yet again. Keep him in stock until he stops selling well. It only makes sense for the company - give the fans what they want and they'll send you money.
As for Haslabs, I hate the concept. Not everyone can drop $400 or even $200 at certain times. For example, I was out of work when Galactus was released. Hadn't gotten that $1,200 check the government was sending out either. It would have been very irresponsible and foolish for me to even think about dropping $400 for it at the time. Luckily I got it from someone as a Christmas present. They should sell Haslabs with extras during the funding time and then have the main figure (Galactus, Sentinel, etc) available afterwards WITHOUT the extras. That way more people can get their hands on it but people also have the incentive to buy it during the funding time period. But again, a billion dollar toy company has no business doing essentially Go Fund Me toy releases.
Scalpers do tend to take the fun out of things simply for taking figures off the shelf in hopes of flipping them for a big profit. Especially for figures that others would be thrilled to buy themselves at retail.
@@LylesFigureFiles Oh man, I used to hate seeing that at Toys R Us. I've literally grabbed figures out of the hands of scalpers in Toys R Us and dared them to do something about it. Trying to buy every figure on the shelf so they could re-sell them.
I love the rereleased. I am a completionist and I have needed every rerelease that has come out this year I don't have to pay the big eBay price. Love it.
Nice! I'm glad you didn't have to overpay for figures you wanted!
I think I’m going to try to get Silver Surfer when he shows up at my local comic shop. He’s like the last FF character I want other than a Galactus, and he won’t fit on my shelf.
Does your store do pre-orders? Mine does. Maybe that's an option.
I’m absolutely in favor of re-releases of figures. It keeps more collectors interested in the game, and that means more figures for all of us. In fact, I’d prefer re-releases instead of updated versions of characters, because that leaves more tooling for new characters. I just see te-releases as a win-win proposition. If you want to invest in something, increase your 401k contribution or buy some Apple stock. “This is gonna be worth a lotta money someday” is a lie we should be telling our significant others, not ourselves. 😛
Or do Draft Kings 😉
LOL! We've all been there! "Honey, this will be worth a FORTUNE some day!"
I just started collecting last year and was OVERJOYED to see the Kingpin re-release. A local vintage toy store had one for $110, and that's just too much, no matter how much I love Willie. I've alao got my eye on Colossus and Juggernaut since it's still available a few places
You’re the kind of collector these rereleases benefit the most. Glad you were able to get another crack at it! And despite my articulation gripes the Colossus Juggernaut pack is pretty sweet.
@LylesFigureFiles Yeah, I've heard some complaints; but to the naked eye, those two are works of art lol
It starts with mint in box and goes toxic from there. Gatekeeping is crazy in figure collecting.
Yeah, any boxed figures I still have just haven't been opened/reviewed yet ;-)
Jeffrey, great video and love the topic. Personally, I don't mind Hasbro ML re-releasing action figures. For those collectors who missed out have an opportunity to get the figure who otherwise would have to pay 3rd party prices to obtain one. Obviously I am on the side of the fence that isn't collecting for an investment.
Thanks Jay. It seems fair for everyone to get a shot at the figures!
rereleases... bring it on. good for my friends and me. If the market is there... go for it!
Exactly! And with these sellouts, the market certainly seems to be there!
@@LylesFigureFiles yeah... I didnt get into this hobby for investments.
I didn't have the chance to get the silver surfer. So I really love his re-release
Great! You're a terrific example of the value of re-releases!
I was just barely able to secure the pre order for silver surfer. These re releases totally make me happy.
Nice! Glad you were able to get him!
Appreciate the name drop, man. Think it'd be cool for some of those older Spidey Retro Cards to get a limited re-release. Hoping for a Mysterio 🤞
Absolutely! Mysterio would be a good choice!
Eff the speculators ....they mess it up for everyone.
Maybe we should start a rumor those Ollies Eternals figures are gonna pay off big time?
@@LylesFigureFiles 😂😂🤣😭💀 agreed
@@LylesFigureFiles LMAO! Good one Jeffrey! I actually bought those figures now that they're going for $8 on Amazon and painting them with blue skin to use as Kree, plus I have plenty of Skrull heads so I can pop them on and use them as Skrulls. The bodies look alien enough, to me.
I’m for releases especially after a few yrs plus no upgrade to be released within two yrs. Our 80’s toy that are $ - those toys are 30-40 old! Stop buying toys to hold for 30-40 yrs to retire on.
Amen! Gold and stocks (and maybe Bitcoin) is for investments. Toys are for FUN!
Geesh, I can't even imagine trying to sell on eBay in 5 years let alone 30!
@@LylesFigureFiles Believe it or not, a girl who had a crush on me in 2019 bought me a Major Matt Mason figure for Christmas. I originally got it for Christmas in 1969 and here 50 years later I got it as a Christmas gift a second time! She paid $400!
Rereleasing Haslab, Imo hard no. That would defeat the purpose of Haslab, plus I would be afraid they would charge inflation pricing. I don't have a problem with rereleasing old figures, like you said, there are new people joining the community every day. My problem is not updating the figure. That Silver Surfer could have been done on a pin less body, it's just a blank fig with silver paint. If they released the fig as a Walmart, Walgreens or Target exclusive, that's where it should be done again. Why release exclusives if in 2 years it will be a general release. Really, you have people running around looking for items that are exclusive only to discredit their hard work a few years later. I don't think there should be any store exclusives. My two biggest concerns are Hasbo rereleasing figs with no updates or no additional accessories and charging current pricing. They are rereleasing Cable... I've been wanting him since a very long time, it doesn't have any updates as far as I can see, which is disappointing.
I wonder if the rerelease is just a quick and easy way to get demanded figures back out quicker while they work on a superior update?
And the shipping on the Sentinel was $120 on top of the $625 buy it now price.
The way USPS is charging for stamps that might be the most realistic part of that auction LOL.
...I agree with re releasing especially with army builders. Also re release when figure technology has evolved, i.e. pointless re release from pinned out of production figure
Man, my Hydra/AIM/SHIELD/Hellfire Club armies would be massive with re-releases. And that doesn't include the Skrulls!
I had to think about this from a line I've only recently started collecting from, Black Series, and how I want Plo Koon and the only way I am going to get him is if they rerelease him. I want an Alec Guinness version of Obi-Wan.
Yeah there's likely something from every line collectors would want another crack at via a rerelease.
Good video topic! And to answer the question: I just invest in normal things, like one of a kind art pieces and vintage jewelry when I can find it; as a geologist and aspiring jeweler, I know that rocks and metal always hold their value. I have a few splash pages from certain comic runs that I've gotten framed recently, too. The fact is, anything mass produced won't actually be valuable most of the time. It's just how the world works.
So I don't mind re-releases, especially since I don't want to pay hundreds of dollars for a single figure. May as well put that money towards a car payment or other bills instead. Ultimately, collecting what I missed out on is a hobby! Not essential to life.
I do miss the DC Universe Classics line, though. It's been difficult to find the remaining figures I want for a decent price now that they aren't being made anymore [was mostly too poor for toys growing up]. I also wish McFarlane would revisit some of the characters they made with DC Direct. It's unlikely, but I wouldn't mind an updated Big Barda or Vixen.
Thanks so much!
I hate that collectors have to pay 10X what the original value of the figure is because it's been "retired."
Which DC Classics figures are you looking for?
@@LylesFigureFiles Thankfully the only ones I have left on my want list are the Metal Men, Copperhead, Parademon, Etrigan, Vigilante, Gentleman Ghost, and Killer Moth. Not thrilled about those Vigilante prices...
Yea buddy. Can’t deny I just took advantage of that retro Kingpin figure re release.
Just got it at GameStop for preorder. Still available if anyone interested.
Oh that's good news. Glad to hear he's not sold out everywhere. It's a solid figure!
A lot of figure purchases are driven by FOMO. If they rerelease Haslabs, it would hurt the initial rollout. I don’t mind if a character is rereleased, just make it different to identify the OG release.
Hasbro has cornered the secondary market on traditional collecting. They’ve been rereleasing HTF figures, making highly customized characters as well as heavy reuse of bucks and making customizing difficult by implementing “pinless” tech even though it’s been around for over 2 decades.
Some people feel good to know or think that they possess a figure that has some value. “ I have this and you don’t “ type of joy.
It kind of upsets me to know these rereleased figures were fake “ Sold out” all this time when I may have overpaid to acquire it but Hasbro won’t keep stuff in stock that should be like Skrulls, Hellfire Club Guards and SHIELD agents.
There are some pretty expensive Hot Toys and WWE figures and NECA figures too so it's not just Hasbro seeing figures score big money on the secondary market.
We need Rhino,I have the build a figure one ,spiderman wave,we need a reissue of Hell fire club box set alot people missed out didn't even know it went up for preorder, Galactus, sentinel,and alot more a lot of new collectors missed out,plus too show the scalpers it's not right or fair what their doing buying up every thing with robots or on shelves make them keep they're high price figures ,for their own collection too teach scalpers a lesson 😜👍💯
I knew I should've bought a second Kingpin. I didn't buy one because I had one already. But I realized I have the Shadow King head from the Professor X set that has needed a body for a long long time.
That was exactly why I got that Retro Kingpin!
You're right about eBay, I got banned because of liars trying to get stuff free and send stuff back for no reason.
Oh man! eBay is the worse when it comes to looking out for sellers!
I am for it i missed out on a lot of those Walgreens marvel legends but i see the other sides point but I don't collect to make money i am collecting because i love figures
I’d have a lot of wasted space trying to hold figures for resell value.
That is one thing I'd love to see, is Hasbro re-releasing through Pulse a lot of the exclusive figures that were so hard to get. I HATE Walmart, Target, Walgreens exclusives. Just makes it a pain in the ass to get those figures.
I'm fine with re-releases. It gives collectors a chance to get figures they missed. If I want it I'll buy it. If I don't I won't. It's not taking the place of new figures, because there's no extra costs to hasbro for sculpting, etc. I do wish they'd re-release some army builders.
Oh absolutely. More Skrulls please!
Yes!!! Skrulls and Hellfire guards.
Yes, they should re-release figures! Especially if they are Target or Wal-mart exclusive! I'm was never able to get a classic Lizard figure because when it came out, it was already sold out at Wal-Mart!
Maaaan, the Wal-Mart exclusives are the worst no matter the line!
I say yes. Some figures sell out very quickly or are Store exclusives. I've had stuff sell out on me 3 minutes after it went up and I'm trying to check out only to not be able to get it! Most recent was Tracksuit Mafia! I was on Hasbro the minute they went up, in the 3 minutes it took me to put them in the cart and trying to check out they were sold out while I was putting in my card details! Also, I have 3 Marvel Earth's! Unlike DC, Marvel gives us enough Villains, but you have to budget. I got the 1 Kingpin and it sold out, and the next release of Kingpin was the disappointing undersized version. So, when the good Kingpin was released I jumped on him. I also was able to get the Pinstripe Joe Fixit. I had the BAF Joe Fixit and the Grey Hulk from the Banner/Hulk 2-pack that I could use as a Ticked Off Joe Fixit, but I was afraid I was going to have to buy the expensive Patch/Joe Fixit set, and I didn't want to because I don't need a Patch. So, now I have 3 Joe Fixit's for my 3 Marvel Earth's.
My Marvel Earth's are;
Earth 616, my most Complete Earth
Earth 777, my original Marvel Earth that started with older Toy Biz, slowly replacing all of those.
Earth 818; a slightly Futuristic looking Marvel made up of Futuristic variants.
Armored Thor
Iron Man 2020
Ultimate Captain America
Old Man Logan as Headmaster at Xavier's
Kitbashed Grown up Franklin Richards
Mother and Daughter looking Rogues
Etc.
Are you able to save your card info? I always log that in before placing orders to avoid that insta-sell out.
It's supposedly in. I click on and my info comes up, but then I have to do that Chapcha thing which slows me down, then I scroll to my card number, it comes up but I have to input my expiration date and 3 digit code. So, with the delays it takes 7-9 minutes to check out and I've had at least 4 times when something is sold out in 3 minutes.
They obviously need to save as much as possible or to make as much profit as they can
They talk about investments as of they aren't snatching up the rereleased figs and scalping those.
Also want to add, updated figures sink older inferior figures value so are they gonna argue that we should not get updated figs of characters?
@@greenman5229 Those scalpers are, as I said on another comment, greedy, foolish and childish. Totally self centered and a blight on the hobby. You make a very good point!
Solid argument! I wonder how often that's the case?
I almost ordered that rerelease silver surfer not knowing it was a re release. When I saw the old sculpt and pins it was a pass
Hopefully you'll get a pinned version down the road.
Everyone calling it a poor investment, I’d say not quite if you know what you’re buying and you’re not greedy. I buy extras of specific figures to pay for my collection.
I made $70 on each NWH 3 pack.
Same with the Alpha Flight pack, the Love Triangle pack, more recently the X Men 97 Rogue & Wolverine, and manyyy others.
Sounds like you have a good strategy to fund your collection.
I was able to get Kingpin upon his original release. I saw this restock as a chance to get 1 to keep sealed. Honestly, I’m not opposed to reissues if they’re done right like these, after a few years
Yeah and two years is enough for new folks to get their first crack at a figure.
I originally wasn't that keen on getting Kingpin (he's not one of my favorite Spidey villains, not even in the Top 20) so I passed on him but now that I have so many Spidey villains, I wanted him so I can have a more complete Rogues Gallery. So I was happy to see him re-released. I managed to put in an order at BBTS just before it sold out. I don't understand this selling out nonsense. Hasbro can keep churning out more figures as long as people are buying them!
Unchanged packaging on re-releases hurts collectors who bought at high aftermarket prices. It feels like they overpaid for something that's readily available again. Plus, frequent re-releases discourage buying figures at retail price. People might wait for a sale or future re-release if they know there's a chance the figure will be available again later. Mainly though prefer upgrades to re-releases, especially if paying current prices for an older figure. This makes the re-release more appealing to collectors who already own the original version. All that said, giving another chance to get characters otherwise inaccessible, like those locked behind HasLab or BAF wave is a positive thing and what'd I'd want in this position. Overall, you believe re-releases can be done better with changes to packaging or offering upgrades to incentivize collectors who already own the figures.
I don't think lines will start faltering if figure investors can't make a big payday. That waiting game for an upgrade or rerelease can be real tricky too!
Hell then put out the Man-Thing wave so we can all get him and that Blade.
He is apparently getting a new figure this year according to Rektangular.
Re issues are great for those of us who missed out on the initial release.
Or for new collectors.
Its only bad for the ppl who paid a stupid price for a figure on the aftermarket.
Yeah I do feel bad for those collectors!
You’re going to see a few re-releases for the X-men through X-men 97. Beast, Cable, Jubilee, Calisto, and Mr Sinister coming soon. They should re-release the Blob. SDCC exclusives like the Hellfire club and The Raft box sets should be a one and done. Serpentor and Dr Mindbinder were offered after those conventions several times. They don’t count per say. The should bring back major characters in the Marvel lines. I missed the 20th anniversary Captain America. I’m not paying $70- $80 for the most iconic version of Cap. Hopefully X-men 97 makes one too, but I won’t hold my breath.
I wouldn't be shocked to see Cap in the X-Men '97 line. Seems like a good way to get some cross purchases from Avengers-only fans.
Anytime we can stick it to the scalpers, I'm all in! I collect for the fun of it and the nostalgic feels of my youth reading comics....not for any investment. I learned my lesson from buying multiple holographic comic covers in my youth, that arent worth anyrhing tody.
SAME! LOL. I had waaay too many of those gimmick covers from the 90s.
let them make more if demand is there other option is rendless repaints
Yeah and they're certainly selling out so the demand is there.
In general I am fine with it. I think re-issuing Store Exclusives specifically is good. I'm mixed when its something like a single figure from a 2 pack getting a reissue because half the time most people only wanted 1 figure from that pack and now its available as a single release. Feels like you got grifted or something. I'm mostly ok with it because sometimes scalpers snag everything before you get a chance to get it online or in a store and screw paying double markup. I like reissues because it pisses of scalpers.
:-)
That's a good point about not rereleasing both figures in a set!
@@LylesFigureFiles Its more about re-releasing the figure everyone wanted after people paid for 2 figures that they only wanted 1 of. Like I want that Iron Fist and Luke Cage 2 pack coming out, but I've heard a lot of people complain it's a 2 pack and not just releasing Danny by himself. Similarly, the Daredevil from that 3 pack. A lot of people just wanted Matt but paid for 3 figures when they only wanted 1 and then they did a 2 pack, and eventually they WILL release him single. I feel like Re-issues need to be handled correctly especially when it comes to 2 packs. Like I got the Colossus and Jugg 2 pack when it came out, but the reissue should have just been each of them single release. I don't need them, but the multipacks can piss people off, and then re-releasing it isn't really giving people what they want ya know?
I'm also more on the fence when it comes to re-issues having alternate color schemes. Sometimes it an easy pass, other times is pisses me off because THAT was the version I wanted, but I don't want to double dip, but I don't think I'd ever be against doing different colors/costumes that are just repaints. I will say I get annoyed at like new tooling reissues if its not a long enough period. For instance a pinless Silver Surfer would be awesome, but I don't want a 3rd Silver Surfer. I've got one with Galactus and one in my slowly building up Annhilators group. After enough time, re-tooling is great and desperately needed. But sometimes it gets really annoying if it comes too soon.
Don't have a problem with re-releases, but they should be at that original price. I'm glad people that missed out got another chance here 'cause that was way understocked. But even better would be to upgrade the figure. That wg Silver Surfer had a fantastic finish, but the figure itself was way too small; it shouldn't be on the Sunfire buck. Upgrade to a bigger buck (he's supposed to be 6'4") and keep that same finish.
P.S. Pulse is weak.
I wish they were the same prices, but I suppose that's the rerelease tax. Why don't you like Pulse?
Well, it’s not for people who have them. It’s for people who never got them. They should have changed the packaging and figure slightly for the people that brought the first ones. They look like they are going to keep doing this until the MCU makes more movies. The new collectors aren’t paying $300 for a figure they missed.
The iconic version of Rogue sold out every time they released her. So does it matter on pricing for your investment???
Yeah, if a figure is twice as much at retail now I just won't bother with it.
I'm glad figures are re-releasing, but Kingpin @ $40 MSRP?! That's crazy. Those are scalper prices when it first came out for $20-25.
Geesh, it was that cheap at first?
@@LylesFigureFiles Ya I started collecting seriously near the end of that first Spider-man retro card wave. IIRC Kingpin was one of the easier figures to find too as it phased out.
I'm cool with rereleases, but prefer remakes much more. I did get the kingpin and silver surfer, but I would of preferred if they released the silver surfer on a new pinless body.
I wonder then if there's enough incentive for collectors to avoid the rerelease in hopes of an upgrade?
I'm hoping and praying for that 20th anniversary Cap to be re released
That is definitely one that should be in the rerelease pipeline.
A re release on the newer buck would be a win win
True. Not outside the realm of possibility though.
Still have kingpin from when I'd go in the store and find shit easy. Got it at gamestop. They need to retro card a venom. Or re release the one
I'm surprised they haven't done that with Venom yet.
I missed kingpin so I am super happy about the rerelease
Nice! Glad to hear you could get him again!
Unicron did get rereleased, a few months ago, it just went really fast…I’m hoping the sentinel releases again
That's right! Thanks for catching that!
I’m happy because I missed out on some of these figures
Glad to hear it! Have you been able to get the ones you missed?
@@LylesFigureFiles yeah quite a few but there are some others that go for insane prices right now
We suppose too love the figures not too buy too resale for crazy high SCALPER prices I stopped collecting GIJoe line I missed out on serpentor mindbender majorblood so I stopped collecting scalpers buy them up in 10-20 seconds I was upset so I stopped collecting GIJoe I felt cheated kinda like the MOTU origins snake men and turtles of greyskull their starting too make them hard too preorder them Scalpers and Robots
Ahhh Carlos, you might have been who I was trying to remember quitting Classified after not getting Serpentor and Mindbender.
I m all for re releases
come on! it s not the original if it s a re release...
the guy still has the original, and there ll be small differences
I want a silver surfer, og nick fury, dr doom, all og looking
those that want to stop this are just greedy, and it does nt help the community as a whole
I m super happy about my gold - red iron man, and no other looks as good to me...
I got the exact version that looked best to me,
but I would nt deprive others to get the same for my value...
there ll always be markings to say the release date on the fig,
pros will always know...
so now you know...
good show bro
Thank you so much. That means a lot my friend!
Collectors made at a re-release just shows the irrational mentality
I don't understand why anyone would be upset folks get a second crack at a figure, but that's just me.
Maybe just a few.
Any particular ones?
Well if i want a figure i will get it by any means neccessary so i dont really miss any . Second i dont buy but one figure of a character i like . So i guess i dont have a dog in this hunt .
😁 I wish money weren’t an object for me!
@@LylesFigureFiles well sir if i had a lot of money i still probably wouldnt spend it on toyz . Maybe a new corvette .But i really dont spend that much ,if i miss something i will wait until the hype is over and pick it up for a decent price . Timing iz everyrhing .
I don’t mind rereleases, however it’s a bit of a contradiction for the recent trend thats been complaining about old bucks (pin arms and legs).
If an upgrade is in the works that's cool, but the leaked lists haven't mentioned any of these characters so far.
They're putting it back put there because in a few months or so, they'll release another one that is pin less. Just like they reissued Prime when we know SS '86 Prime is coming.
Makes sense. Wonder if they’ll try to line that up with the FF movie?
@@LylesFigureFiles That's what I'm thinking.
I enjoy having rare or semi rare figs. Well this ruins that.
How so? Were you planning to sell later?
Im good with re releases. Just make rachel grey, feral and classic namorita already Hasbro
Seriously on all three of those!!
Action figures are a poor investment. Companies will always do what is financially viable. That includes rereleases. Better for resellers to invest in stocks.
Absolutely! Probably less volatile and less chances of rereleases ;-)
Big supporter of rereleases.
Absolutely!!
I'm all for rereleases. Only caveat is to re-release only figs that are wanted.
No Quasar re-release, please.
LOL. I've still got a few more costumes for Quasar that I want to get.
I know this is kinda different but a lot of collectors who owned the Toybiz Giant man didn't want the haslab Giant man too be backed because they knew the price of the Toybiz one price would drop so a lot of the Toybiz owner tried their best too stop it,but once the haslab Giant man was backed and the Toybiz Haters didn't back it,now their looking stupid , because now their asking different people who backed the haslab Giant man,did they order more than one ,,,they want one after they tried too have the haslab one not made💯
I didn't order the Haslab Giantman because to my vintage reading eyes he looks way too big, though the sculpting was amazing and almost tempted me. But I am glad it got funded for two reasons. One, because fans who wanted him ended up getting him, and the hobby is about having fun so I was happy he funded. And two, because as you said, it's gonna make the scalpers take a hit on their overpriced older Giantman auctions.
In that sense, it just seems to make it a good idea to sell before the inevitable rerelease or improved Hasbro version comes along. The TB Giant Man collectors had a long time to sell if that was their intention.
@@LylesFigureFiles Since they're releasing the Haslab Giantman in a few months, and since they now released a 6" Giantman with the Wasp, I really hope they release a 12" Giantman. That's the size I always see him at in the vintage comics (relative I mean, 9-12'tall) and I think a 12" Giantman would be an automatic sell for everyone who ordered the Haslab because who wouldn't want a 6", 12" and 24" Giantman?
Frankly, if you are buying figures to hang onto them and sell them later, you are doing it wrong. The secondary market is out of control right now, and scalpers are using bots to wipe out stock of store exclusives. The playing field isn't level.
To me, let figures be re-released with the exception of unique exclusives. I prefer a re-release of a solid figure over a variant with a slight tweak or a new accessory. To make MIB collectors happy, change the package so they can at least identify the first run.
Haslabs are tricky because I don't care if the figure was fully funded and all theirs released. But, if say Giant Man is re-released, we could have gotten the Skrull head because it was so close.
I know some folks make a big score selling, but that takes the fun out of collecting for me.
They are caught in their own web, they said we gonna remove the pins in two years, i don't see that's an issue, but when you see that Mattel already remove the pins for everything, that's suspicious. Seems like they are playing the trick of milk more one with pins, then update without pins. That's my concern, sure this is cheap, if the figure is already pinless, but this isn't cheap if I need to buy one with pins, and later again without pins, that's a cheap trick. I'm not against re-release, I'm against dirty shady marketing moves.
You can always wait out until they release the version you want. No need to feel cheated!
@@LylesFigureFiles That doesn't change that the company is doing a cheap trick.
Lmao if that was true 25th to 50th era gki joe would go for multiple of purchase price never happened and vast majority of classified can. E found at or close to retail. If demand is there let hasbro make more
Silver surfer should have been updated instead of re-released imo
Which improvements would you have wanted to see?
@@LylesFigureFiles just on a new buck, someone suggested renew your vows body and yea I think that would look sick. I'm definitely fine with the rerelease for those who want in but I decided to pass and wait out for a "better" figure
Agreed. I prefer the earlier, shinier Silver Surfer figure. I would love to have seen him released in that shiny finish, pinless and with those energy eyes Kirby used to draw him with.
If people are selling these figures for huge amounts of money, Hasbro would be dumb to not re-release them... so of course they are
Right! Especially since they're not seeing any benefits of those huge amount of markup sales.
Im all for rereleases but the sold out on pulse gimmick is fabricated and frustrating for their most loyal consumers
What frustrated you with the sold out on Pulse?
Hasbro needs to release a new Konami X-men arcade Cyclops.
It's a highly desired design.
Which look is that one?
Lyle, he’s referring to the design from that cyclops phoenix two pack you pulled up on eBay. The giant size X-men blue suit with yellow speedos which he also wears in the walk and beat’em up Konami arcade game. Basically his X-men Classic outfit.