Freybrand Lol. We definitely need more of the assassinorum out there. ;). Great image though. Mind if I nick it? :). Thanks for listening, brother. :).
@@Baldermort By all means good sir, nick away. I'm glad I came across your Channel. You're one of the better lore channels out there and I love your video on the Grey Knights. Keep up the excellent work!
Thank you brother Freybrand. Consider this scene well and truly nicked! Muhahahahahahahahahahaha. : Thank you for all of your help and constant support, brother. :)
As Word Bearer begin his speech, the Vindicar open his eye, the rifle had drifted off its mark. The assassin squirm so the rifle may rest naturally and closed his eyes. Reopening them he saw the cross hairs hovering over the targets head. His breathing slowed as he stared at his target. His target has brown eyes with hints of green in them. Just breath... Suddenly there was screaming and he lost the target. Blinking he zoomed out he saw the Word Bearer sprawled out on the ground. He didn't even remember taking the shot.
@@cypher4783 in the next hiding spot over a Ratling slings his weapon over his back having just ended the Word Bearer, sneaks up on the Assassin, steals his Exitus pistol and scampers off.
“We were each made for different battles”- Mortarion. This video made me realise the purpose and battle for which Lorgar was meant to fight. A battle for the hearts and minds.
I don’t quite agree with that view of lorgar purpose/specially of war as Valkan, Sanguinius or even the Primarchs Alpha Legion would fit that image better. I believe that Lorgar was originally meant to be the His Praetorian instead of Dorn. Where the Custodians where the Emperor’s personal bodyguard, the 17th legion would have been his Enforcers with the imperium similar how the 20th are his Secret Service or how the 6th are his executioners while the 12th are more tailored to complete destruction all before their Primarchs came to be. It seems like fanatical loyalty is the 17th trait like the alpha legion is secret war or the thousand sons are more warp base warfare. The thing that the 17th was fantastically loyal to happened to be religion
It's amazing how the Emperor forgets what he made each for. Maybe that's how we got to Monarchia. One day he was chilling, considering all the things when he contemplated his sons and their aim... Cut to the Emperor high-tailing it across the Galaxy as he hopes to out-race the results of a ghastly lack of over-sight.
Thanks, brother Richard. Word Bearers are all kinds of special. Wait until you see the end for my take on them in its entirety. I really hope you enjoy it. :)
Richard Kesner thank you, brother a Richard. It took some doing to get it right. I was a bit too graphic in my first draft. Had to tone it down. Lol. Elated you enjoyed it. .).
Roboute Guilliman hmmm. You say this to a man called Baldermort. Bald. Who’s sobriquet is the hairless death?’ *take off kid gloves*. Oooooohhhhhh. I’m gonna get you, Guilliman. :). But - silliness aside - thanks for watching, Primarch Guilliman. :).
Logar was the biggest winner in the heresy when you thinking about it he found the Gods he wanted to worship and his father viewed as the god he always saw him as
@@Venneroth kind of the way things go. but to say they lost nothing is an understatement. losing that many followers and losing a foothold is quite a blow to chaos. not so much after they incident with the eye but still its something. each chaos space marine lost is actually almost irreplaceable. cheap demonic imitations are one thing but the actual astartes themselves are still limited and their geneseed gets more corrupted over time.
Lorgar was given visions of the future. I still like to think that he realized the only way to turn the Emperor into a god is the Horus Heresy, and all since then. I'd like to think that when the Emperor rises from the Golden Throne, Lorgar will look at him and say "See Father, you are a god. My faith is vindicated."
A very nice way of looking at things. I like it. I don;t hold that opinion, but yours is as valid as mine any day of the week. I love this hobby just for that. So much potential for escapism. But Lorgar is right. His father is indeed now a god and he is probably the most important person in making that happen. :) Thanks for listening and taking the time to share your thoughts, brother. :)
All of the horror and death of the Horus Heresy, all of the misery and suffering of the present Imperium, the long fall into the endless dark, all of it was born from a son whose only sin was that he loved his father too much. Tragic.
@@OverseerXIII A religion born from the love of a son for the father he adored. Lorgar never wanted to be what he became. He just wanted something to love the way he loved his father. The Chaos Gods provided that to him in his darkest hour. Which makes them all the more horrid.
All I ever wanted was to defend my people - every tyrant ever. (just a joke brother, just a joke - lorgar is a complicated chap. I look forward to doing his Primarch entry one day. ) Thank you for listening. ;)
That;s what we aim for on the Guides. Immersion. Well, when I pull off a whopper. But it takes a lot of time. So I sometimes take light bite week breaks. :) Thanks for listening brother. :)
Agreed! Baldamort if it’s possible look into the production of the Eisenhorn tv series variety.com/2019/tv/news/warhammer-40000-series-eisenhorn-in-the-works-the-x-files-frank-spotnitz-1203270041/
Yeah that’s funny though there was one scene in a book that I really enjoyed with Abaddon talking to talos of the night lords in soul hunter but talos does roast him and his legion that was also funny.
Red Vexx he’s a corking character. Don’t worry, when he gets his own video he will shine. I always do vids purely from the factions’ perspective. Abaddon is badass. Don’t worry. :).
@@deepblue1846 yes he did. After Sigismund roamed the void for centuries in countless battles. He was by that time an old man and even Failbaddon had nothing but respect for him.
Frightening just how...TRUE...this actually is! Subterfuge, as shown by Alpha Legion, can be a powerful tool...and when combined with rhetoric like the Word Bearers do, it can win worlds with barely a shot fired! Baldermort, your short stories bring the 40k universe to life!
"I'd faced the servants of the Great Enemy more often than I cared to contemplate, and in my experience it was never wise to underestimate them. Particularly a 10,000 year old madman, who'd been marinating himself in the raw stuff of Chaos for most of that time." -Commissar Ciaphas Cain
Impressive speech. It's interesting to see an example of just how a Word Bearer would subvert an Imperial world first against local government, then against the wider Imperium, then against the Emperor himself (enslaving them to the will of the gods in the process). Whilst we World Eaters prefer a more direct path, the World Bearers have nonetheless delivered many Imperial worlds directly into the maw of the Primordial Truth, and certainly deserve respect for the effectiveness of their tactics (just as the Alpha Legion or Night Lords do theirs). Makes me think of the happy times Uncle Lorgar and Papa Angron had in the HH novel 'Betrayer'. Good memories... 😌
Thank you. Just trying to 'show instead of tell' as it makes things easier for newer players I thought. The burning of Ultramar.... good times...... good times. :)
The corpse emperor messed up from the beginning. He made the Imperial Heralds fanatics then let a ultra charismatic fanatic lead them. What did he expect he was asking for trouble.
Fair points, brother. I am not sure we will ever know. The difference in the characters from each writer makes it hard to see who is the demon and who is the angel. Always. Which is what makes it all so much fun. :) Thank you for listening, brother. :)
@skullpull 101 Is Lorgar a narcissist? He never seemed to place himself far above his peers. He even let Kor Phaeron and Erebus counsel him. I'm not sure what war crimes he committed either. I've read the Word Bearers greatest brutality was after Monarchia when they complied with the Emperor's demand to conquer more worlds.
@skullpull 101 Soldiers either die for the chaos gods or the god emperor. I guess I'll need to watch that Arch video. I recall Lorgar taking better care of his sons than most other traitor primarchs. During the dropsite massacre he ran in to protect his Gal Vorbak from Corax, almost getting himself killed in the process.
Lorgar thought highly of himself yes, but not in the same way as his other brothers, he wanted to be a peacekeeper, a philosopher, a writer, an orator. Its easier to explain it by posting a discussion between lorgar and kor phaeron which he admits that he is lesser to his brothers in terms of warfare and fighting but he opines as to why his father (the emperor) would not approve of oration, diplomacy, and philosophy which lorgar excels at. And like why skypants said, Lorgar was an affection primarch, who literally defied fate by charging against something he KNEW would be his death just to protect his genesons against corax.
They called him the weakest of the Primarchs; I call "Bullshit!" None of the other Primarchs EVER took on Annrath the Unbound, did they..? but He did. And WON! Not because he was particularly "Martial..." but because He *Believed..!* and that is what is so Fucking *SCARY* about Lorgar, and the Word Bearers as a whole! Burn 'em..? Stab 'em..? Shoot 'em..? Do ALL THE ABOVE AND WORSE..! and they'll just keep on coming... singing and praying all the while...if THAT doesn't scare ya..? (hell, even Konrad Curze wasn't THAT crazy!) nothing will... Beyond that..? Lorgar is the REAL winner - Both Chaos, and the Imperium are dancing to His song, and His word. Choke on THAT, Papa Smurf!!
@@headlibrarian1996 Nope..! Lorgar won, straight up. Conniving, plot twists and other such "surprises..?" are the domain of Tzeentch. (and NO ONE despises The Changer of Ways more than the Blood God!) Lorgar is, perhaps the WORST sort of enemy for The Imperium - He's methodical, calculating and worst of all..? Patient. What's more he possess the absolute most deadly of Big-E's talents: He's a Powerful, Charismatic public speaker, one capable of inspiring either the best or WORST in those around him! (a few speeches, an few "hymnals" and he'd have folk running head first into enemy fire, with a smile on their faces!) Lorgar, (like The Emperor) should come w/a warning label - "WARNING..! Charismatic Leader - May be Hazardous to your health."
"A galaxy of truth..." That line sticks with me. For people raised on the Imperial Truth, the realization that gods exist, are facts of the universe, would convert many even before notions of corruption and manipulation come into play. One wouldn't even have to be personally evil to worship Chaos; the fact that higher powers literally exist would be more than justification. That chilled me about Chaos, before faith in the Emperor became an objective force in 40K: for all of its incomprehensible cruelty and horror, Chaos was real/factual/true.
The gods sowed their existence like seeds in the cultures and religions of all worlds that humanity settled..always a quartet, always under differing names and interpertations Khaan, Tazeen, Nergat, Slannat...but they were there before the Dark Age of technology reached its apocalyptic crescendo. And would be there when humanity were but fractured leftovers spread amongst the stars. Alone in the dark void. Yet The gods answered. Fear not the primordial truth.
But, What's a god? So there are being of higher power than humans. Yes... look at C'tan, Old Ones, Hell even the Tyranid Hive Mind is a higher being in many ways. Does that mean theyre Gods? No. Thats just a silly word for beings of immense power. Theyre still JUST beings, capable of being created and destroyed. All of them are nothing more than more childish mortals, playing in the sandbox of the universe. Theyre just a slightly bigger creature. There could be things that dwarf even the chaos 'gods'.
Well, if something or someone is a god it doesn't mean it's good/moral/healthy/as-you-wish-how-to-say-it to worship it (I am looking at you, four certain entities of warp). But in Emperor's case there is important question: how to worship god worth to worship when is not interested in... being worshiped? I am afraid there's just only one way. Accept... choice. There are still things like admiration and inspiration and following. So yes, long story short, Lorgan failed in "test". ;)
No matter how often you pronounce the evilness of the Word Bearers, just the way you tell this story makes me sure, they are actually the good guys. Every look at the state of the Imperium, at the Emperor's totalitarian vision, confirms this. But, still, I will not turn to Chaos. Cuz dere'z but two godz, an' dey'z Gork 'n' Mork! For in da grim dark future of wotevva dem 'oomies iz countin', only da greenskinz iz 'avin' fun! WAAAAAGH!
My favorite legion, you are the only one who did them justice on all of youtube. Everyone else portrays them as little more than hurt children. When in reality they are the only ones who truly understand chaos. The loyalists have no idea the Emperor would just wipe them from existence the moment he achieved his precious goal. Chaos is the only truth. Thank you for the work :)
Weird isn't it? I think all of the factions are really interesting, have massive merit in the saga and Word Bearers are NO joke. In this modern era of the Psychic Awakening they are titans. But I am waiting to see what happens when Aurelian comes out of his meditation. Its going to get hectic real fast. :) Thank you for listening and never let the nay-sayers get you down. :)
@@Baldermort Apparently Lorgar got out of his meditation and got his ass kicked by Corax in one of the new short stories.... which according to me is absolute nonsense...I don't care what magical powers you get in the warp from constantly killing demons, you do NOT beat a literal god just because its cool to the majority. GW are clearly playing favorites and it's becoming a bit too black and white for my liking. However it is lucky that it's all fantasy so i make my own cannon. Many thanks again for all your effort. It really shows
@@evropaawake4421 There are no Gods literal or other wise, the emperor was vary clear, And the Word Bearers are retards that don't have the ability to listen to what they are told. The warp aliens are just that. Different powerful, but nothing as a God Not even a little close. One day, they to will fall, wiped away but others more powerful.
@@lkuhhdsfgasdgvdadfg So you're just ignoring the fact that in the actual lore there are 4 major chaos GODS that very real and interact with the world? Alright then. Sure the Emperor said No, but in the lore it's clear he lied. Besides atheism = meaningless existence, word bearers didn't want a meaningless existence. Simple
David Ryan thank you., brother. All of my videos are from the perspective of the faction. So I will contradict myself a lot. But that is the beauty of Warhammer. Lots of ways of looking at it. :) Thanks for listening. :).
I can understand why the Word bearers turned on the Emperor, If someone wiped out a peaceful city just to prove a point I would have issue with that, The Emperor could have just asked the Word bearers to speed things up a little with the whole establishing compliance. Basically the whole Horus Heresy was caused by the big E overacting and Lorgar getting a sulk on.
Johnny hiya, colonel. Well, E did what he did. But Lorgar’s acts were waaay more an issue than his speed. Imperial truth eh? We can discuss soon I hope. See you at the club - or pop over for a coffee - minimum - game if possible. :). Thank you for listening. :).
It was much more than just compliance. Lorgar was telling everyone the Emperor was a god, this directly contradicts what the Emperor wanted to portray himself as.
@@Shpongle64 it was still wiping out a perfectly peaceful loyal city just for spite, it was the catalyst for the first Primarch to turn against the Emperor, If big E hadn't done it then the whole civil war may have never happened.
Johnny well you could say a planet is a big thing but in the end he just broke lorgars favorite toy. And big E was kind of nice by sending the ultramarines and not the world eaters, nightlords or space wolves. They even discussed the annihilation of lorgar and his legion for the failings. But lorgar did not care about how „nice“ big E was. Hey just wants to worship. And found the Chaos Gods.
@@robohobo2325 I would hardly call what the Emperor did 'nice'. Monarchia was not Lorgars 'toy' it was a labor of love dedicate to his father. If his worship was wrong then why did the Emperor wait a entire century to 'correct' him, Lorgar never hid his faith. The Ultramarines destruction of Monarchia was also not a clean affair either, they bluntly landed demanding everybody to leave the city or die, threatening the people for asking them why and even killed protesters without hesitation. Guilliman himself felt that what the Emperor forced him to do was too far and would only lead to trouble. Lorgar did not want to worship for the sake of it, he wanted the truth because he saw that the Imperial Truth was the lie that it was, the signs throughout the galaxy were too many, the pattern they formed was clear to those who bothered too look. He did not worship the Emperor as a God because he 'wanted to worship' but because the Emperor was a god in all but name. He could do the impossible, create or destroy live, make or unmake a world, hell not just worlds entire STAR SYSTEMS. He saw the effect of the Eldars Fall, feared that the same would happen to humanity and that fear set him on his path.
Thanks a million, brother Chaoticron. This one was an attempt to get 'more' out of the sound. Bit tiring. Can't say I will be able to do that every time. Well, if its any good. I'm too close to know sometimes. I hope you enjoy it. :)
It's terrifying to think that the Wordbearers might have billions of "cultists" at the snap of their fingers. They have been preaching their word for thousands of years.....
WOW. I will try not to let you down then. Can;t promise, but I will try, Thank you for listening and the amazing generosity of your comment. Thank you!
this was absolutely brilliant...the narrative was absoluutelly cpativating, and exactly how i imagine the actions of a dark apostle.......excellent job man.
When i found your channel i unsubscribed from one mind syndicate and subscribed to you instead. They just read word for word off wikipedia, but you write stuff yourself and even do amazing voices. Well done have a like.
Blue Bowser thank you, brother Blue. OMS are a very different type of channel. They work hard and post daily. I work as hard, but with a different goal. Quantity has a quality all of its own? I think there is space for all of us really. Not to disagree with you in any way - just to be fair to them really. I hope you enjoy what we do here. Welcome to the brotherhood. :).
Thank you brothers. OMS have covered so many topics its imposbile for me to catch up. So I don;t try and am just concentrating on the fun, drama and entertainment factor. I just want a newbie to have an easier access into the hobby. I hope that my flavour pieces, though never perfect, give people a reason to want to play a faction. Thank you for listening, brothers. :)
Inignot12 that is exactly what I am aiming at. Trying to make it easier for a newbie to ‘get it’ quickly. Then they can go on to other more heavy-weight channels. :). Thanks for listening, brother Ingnot. :).
Lorgar just needs a hugg from his dad so he can be a good happy boy again. Plot twist: In the near future Lorgar gets summoned by the Emperor who says Lorgar was right all along (The Emperor is now a God). The emperor then fixes everything and they all live happily ever after. Great stuff as always, thanks :)
Hard to say they would be bothered so much, Lorgar always was the weakest of the bunch, he did become a full daemon with pimping horns though... so, that's cool.
@@Rogerio_FM I hate this opinion of lorgar being the weakest, he was only considered the weakest primarch because of how long his legion would take to bring a planet under compliance but we know now that this was only due to lorgar using diplomacy striking treaties and building his cities and the populace to worship the emperor. When the word bearers and world eater legions first launched their shadow crusade Angron himself was impressed and felt like he underestimated lorgar and the word bearers legion as they were KEEPING up with angron and his legion possibly waging war even better than them with the butchers nailed enhancing them. Lorgar proved during the hersey he was far from being the weakest primarch.
jizburg thank you for saying that, brother. That is why I do it. Love of the factions. The setting. So glad I helped tonight. It makes it all worth while. :).
Well done again! You bring the lore, the literature and the ZEAL into these videos. You need more subscribers. Your works are easily on Oculus levels. #BlameLorgar #FuckErebus
Rick thank you, brother. Oc does a different thing to me, I think I envisage people starting here and going on to Oc and LT really. I’m no heavyweight. Just entertainment and maybe a slightly different view. I hope it’s fun. :). Thank you for watching, brother. :).
@@Baldermort Heavyweight enough to delve into the perspective of these characters and their factions, to be the perspective and make it immersing. don't sell yourself short.
Foul Mood Central gratuitously kind of you, brother. Let’s just go immersive and see where in it takes us. :). Let us old hands shoe the newbie what they are Missing! :). And than you brother, for your kindness. It means the world. .)?
I was thinking this as well, I said to myself "Why, him having excellent oratory skill, philsophy, faith, etc. was he not able to plead his case better?" Was it a failing on the part of the Emperor to not adequately warn Lorgar, to chastise him first better, in private? Then again, Lorgar did, against pragmatism amd wastefully divert resources away from the Emperor and his plan and put them to use in a way that didn't help him.
The Inundation well, sometimes no argument, no matter how brilliant, gets results. If someone slew a family member, would their reason be worth it? Few would listen. I think there is some disconnect and dissonance in writing the Emperor from some BL books. But I try to tie it up if I can. Lorgar and Angron are tough sells to me for a reasonable Emperor. It’s going to take some serious thought and juggling for an emperor video. But perhaps two. A flip side set piece couple. Urg. Make my head hurt already. Lol. One day we will get to the emperor. When I am good enough. Not for a while yet then. Lol. :).
@@TheInundation I mean was it wasteful? they took their time but I doubt any world conquered by the wordbearers would ever revolt. A couple generations of peace and people will forget the terror of the nightlords; a century of prosperity and people will question why are they paying this distant faceless tyrant of the stars, while growing fat off guilliman's infraestructure; give them a generation and they'll start thinking that the angels of death that will castigate them if they revolt are just a tall tale of fat aristocrats and weird red robed spooks trying to cling to power; with time the banners of the great fortress will fade and maybe it's guardian's memories of the hands that built it and the gauntleted fist that ordered their ancestors to watch over it will fade with them. Not to say that his aproach was anything close to the best but it had it's merits in a galaxy were the main institution was this necesarilly artificial empire oddly full of religious imagery. My prefered excuse to the inconsistency of big E with Lorgar is that he knew he was telling a boldface lie and the the primarchs were a walking ever looming threat to his imperial truth,so he did what most people liying under a galaxy sized amount of preasure do and just stuck to the rehearsed script and tried to not draw the attention of his hyper inteligent supersons to the lie. So he just sent Lorgar into the galaxy like all of his troops, blind lambs into forest infested with multi-headed, fire-breathing, tentacle-covered wolves maybe trusting that the wolves were few and the forest big enough that they wouldn't find that many till they conquered everything. That might be an awfully hopeful shot in the best of circumstances but the great crusade was a giant leap of faith allready so I guess it was't hard to just hope a little more. So in that silent desperation of a contraband carrying person in an airport he hoped; he hoped that the iconoclasts would change Lorgar as they were as opposite to their primarch as any legion could be and that would make the result of the reunion the opposite of all the others( assuming The Emperor had the time to notice any of the effects of the other reunions beyond combat results). So when he found that Lorgar was endangering all that was sacrificed in the altar of defeating Chaos reminding him that people,even among his bulwark against terror, could choose not to head his lie two of the most human emotions took the place of hope, anger and fear. So he scolded his "son" like one scolds a dog that dugged under the flowers of the backyard, there was little teaching and much venting and self-reasuring that he was indeed holding the leash. Maybe it was thinking less of the mortals and more of a choir of laughing gods, a demonstration of his power over his shinning sword made to kill the darkness. So he left the naughty dog and hole on the backyard for latter, as there would be time for fixing what was broken after he was done. For the end was in sight, the gods grew weaker with every day that passed as all the bridges to their realms burned in the fires of his curated creed of reason and their voices were drowned in the roaring of his perfect machines of war, for his dogs lead them well while he held 18 leashes. Or maybe is just bad characterization, sorry for the wall of text but your videos are kinda inspiring dude, great stuff.
*Continually claims he isn’t a god* *Forces an entire Legion to kneel before him by psychic will alone. From billions of miles away.* Lorgar: “This is bs!”
Wow how have I missed this channel for so long? The voice acting/story telling is phenomenal!!! Can't wait to see a future video for the Iron Warriors, this guy blows most other lore channels out of the ballpark. You sir just got a new subscriber, can't wait to watch the rest of the content already here!
Thank you, brother Cassidy. I will endeavour to try to improve. Some things take a loooong time to get done. Crowds are definitely one of them. :) If the background sound effects help, then more there shall be! Thanks for that also. I loved doing that speech. I did have a longer version, but it was simply too long, so I had to take the highlights. Elated that it did the job in its condensed version. :) Thanks for listening, as always. : )
The 5 minute mark on, the crowd? That was such a good new addition. It definitely "works"! Yes, I think the Word Bearers are likely the most dangerous, as they are, being of Chaos Undivided, eminently adaptable!
Thanks Brother Inundation - it took a looot to do. But I can keep putting in there if it works. Just not every week. Lol But if the sound effects help then we can use them. more. Many thanks. :)
I tend to try to stick up for the downtrodden factions a bit more than some. As you say, I thought they deserved some shine. Epic army. Most are, but some don;t see the appeal. Its very subtle indeed. :) Thank you for listening and commenting, brother Coswell. :)
Lorgar's fall hurts because it all boils down to " His dad was a piece of shit that just wasn't a good enough dad and pushed him into the waiting arms of evil gods. If he wasn't a shitter and just was honest with his sons, told them WHY they needed to censor the gods out of human history and general knowledge then they would have all known their foe and prepared accordingly. " Instead he left his children all woefully unprepared and some even set up perfectly to fall right into the waiting slavering maws of Chaos.
The mere mention of the Word Bearers makes my bile to rise!!!! It took me a long time to listen to this entry, not because of the masterful skills of Lord Baldermort, but that Lorgar was so.... I do not even know the proper word to describe my primal feeling towards him. My homemade chapter of Space Marines that I created way back in the early days of 40K was geared towards the hunting down and eliminating traitor marines but Word Bearers above the rest.
I feel your anger, Brother. What happened at Monarchia was extreme. Miscalculated even. But Lorgar and his bastards ruined EVERYTHING. It was they that turned brothers and cousins against each other and sold humanity out to those four Warp Cancers masquerading as Gods.
Another great, entertaining and informative performance. Phenomenal work mate. You should be proud of what you've achieved in such a short amount of time as a youtuber. Well done.
Just wow... I'm a huge fan of the word, it's my mine army for years. But your narration with the music, the story... your voice. I watch a lot of 40k lore and clip but this 1.... just wow...
Wow, I learned a lot about the Word Bearers from this video! I not only got raw information, but a wonderful experience that drips with the spirit of the 40k universe. I love this format you have on your videos: a story narrated by a 3rd or 1st party, then followed up by the lore (and in this special treat, the ending part of the story). The two play into each other perfectly - the story colors the lore, and the lore builds greater appreciation for not only the story but the 40k universe as a whole. It all serves to not only entertain but educate the viewer. Bravo! You earned a subscriber here. I'll be sure to tell my friends and get you a little further to "40k" subscribers. ;)
Dark Apostle was my introduction to the Warhammer 40K universe, and still to this day the Word Bearers hold a special place in my heart. Thank you so much for such a wonderful telling of their lore.
I like your narration. You manage to give soul to your words. I like how you portrayed the character. Prideful and cunning. It makes me want to keep being a chaos player.
Thank you brother Crasher. *bows to brother crasher*. Don’t give too much brother. I am astonishingly grateful. But I do want you to be ok. Get sone hobby stuff - have fun. :). Chaos is so juicy to play. Excellent choice. Really looking forward to playing my Iron Warriors next year. :)
Amazingly generous of you. Amazingly. But there are so many good sites out there. Hence us being so tiny here. But : So far..... so far. The skills are only improving here on the guides. I am still not where I want us to be. But maybe one day.; Thank you for your generosity in commenting, brother. :)
Never seen this channel before, gotta say, first line in and I feel like I just bought this audio book from black library. Brilliant quality, outstanding actually. Keep going mate, when this hits the wider 40k audience, I think this will go down a absolute treat! Liked, subbed, shared. No problem.
Joe Darby thank you, brother. It does take a lot of effort to do, but I like to think it is worth it. :). Thank you for liking and taking the time out to comment. But thanks a billion for sharing. TH-cam isn’t my best friend when it comes to sharing my videos. Lol. Thank you. :).
Had a new revelation concerning the Blood Ravens.......... The Blood Ravens were created for the dawn of war series of games. In the faction introduction for Chaos dark crusade and the dialogue between the Blood Ravens and Chaos. The answers lie there..... The Gene father for the Blood Ravens is.......... Lorgar Aurelian! Known also as the Urizen (wisest of the wise) in light of all this just think of thier battle cry:" knowledge is power, guard it well." TTFN!
*jaw hits floor* I now need to watch all of the cut scenes again. My last Computer died so I don't have it on a near completed save. Damn Sergeant! Damn!!!!!!!
@@Baldermort LOL! My son played it for me on his phone and my mouth was open in utter shock.... You can search: Dawn of war Dark Crusade - All Intro Cutscenes. TTFN!
@@Baldermort Also in the Chaos intro cut scene where the word bearers are fighting the Ultra Marines the Chaos banner bearer's banner looks strikingly like the Blood Ravens chapter banner. Whether this banner is simply an oversight by the developers of the game or not, the game originally wasn't cannon, but over time it has become official lore. TTFN!
@@Baldermort The only other legion that one could argue given this (revelation) would be the Red Angel's Bloody thirteenth. But the Blood Ravens lack the um...... (fanatical zeal for visceral melee) that even the pre- herasy War Hounds possessed. But seem to wield the cold fury of the Imperial Heralds. TTFN!
In all seriousness, you are phenomenal!! I wait with baited breath for each narration you release. Your style, depth of passion and your love of the setting shine through like the Holy Astronimicon itself. You, Lord Baldemort, are a master storyteller, an artist. Your words are your paint and brushes, and like Van Gogh, and da Vinci, you paint a scene of wonder. like Bernini and Michelangelo, you sculpt an experience worthy of divine reverence. please, in the name of Him upon Terra, cease not thy labors.
Arch (of Warhammer fame) did a good video about Lorgar. Essentially, Lorgar was always a monster. He excused his actions by blaming others. First, he tried to put it on the Emperor. The Emperor, through the actions at Monarchia, rebuked Lorgar. So, Lorgar, unwilling to face the things he'd done, went looking for another "god" he can use to justify his actions. And the Chaos gods were waiting.
This is truly incredible work! I subscribed within just a few minutes. You give a fantastic Chaos sermon. I have heard audiobooks of much lower quality than this fine video. I will certainly check out the rest of the content you create.
Well, not all are as in depth sound wise, but we are trying to make the big ones more immersive. Its fiddly work, but I think it is worth it. Thank you for joining us on the guides, brother Inthemorn. :_)
That was amazing!! You did my favourite Legion so much justice!! Your narration was so fantastic, perhaps you are a deciple of the 'True Word'? Excellent work!!
Incredible. The story was delightfully horrifying and coupled with the lore and excellent narration gave me chills. The Word Bearers truly are the biggest threat facing the Imperium of Man. The only faction truly interested in the Soul of Mankind and they may win it. Truly horrifying.
This was my first video of yours a bit back, and damn is it just as good as a remember it. I did like the idea of The Wordbearers, but the way you present them and the son of Lorgar you portrayed really encapsulates what caught attention about them, I would really love to see them more in modern 40k and really hope to see them in Dark Heresy campaign I have coming up. Either way, this is still my favorite video or yours and I really hope to hear more from this Wordbearer someday in your videos.
Hello, I recently ran across your videos for the first time a week ago and that quickly became a sub as well as a question. Do you use any post-production on the voice? I only ask because your style of presentation and vocal techniques remind me of the legendary Vincent Price in how you deliver the narration, just much more bass to the voice, and I think that is absolutely wonderful as that kind of theatre evokes so much more, even with information that pretty much everyone watching these videos already knows very well. If there was a time machine, we should send you back to the 90s so you can voice the Atmosfear games and their like, you have that late night horrow show voice. Keep it up guy!
michael murphy alas, my post production is torturous, as my ability to read out clearly is still very new. So I end up removing errors, breathing, etc. But do I put myself through any alteration? Nope. I just give it my best amateurish go and hope it’s tolerable. :). Price is a legend. Legend. If only I were half as talented. I only started in September on lore and voice work - apart from being silly in roleplaying games - so it’s very much a work in progress. Glad it’s ok. Thank you for listening. :).
This was my very first video I saw from channel. It’s so good I keep coming back to this time and again. You really did a terrific job on this subject and of the quality of the video. 👏👏👏
The further I get into the lore of the Imperium of Man, the more I realise that the Emperor made some stupid decisions. He could have used Lorgar to great effect as he was. Good video tho. 💪🏾
Yep. The Emperor is made to be the PERFECT human being YET he SUCKS AT PHILOSOPHY > Be big E > make 20 sons > 1 son worship you and the worlds he brings are loyal > does not use in his advantage > destroys his sons life's and dedicated work to you > profit.
I appreciate the work you put into this as it’s actually quite good. There were a few errors that are small but need to be said as Meme lore is ruining everything. The Emperor knew full well that Lorgar was religious and simply didn’t care. Remember that there was weeks of feasting and celebration in the God Emperor’s name that the Emperor was made to take part in directly after Discovering Lorgar in Colchis. On Monarchia the Emperor was very clear He was upset that the WB were slow in their conquest, and then the argument became about religion and the Divinity or Lack thereof for the emperor because of Snide comments made by Malcador and later the Emperor. Lorgar wasnt a Fanatic and neither were the Word bearers until shortly before, during and after the Heresy. the First heretic explains this, as when Argel Tal is forced to his knee he is so Horrified that he makes a comment about how this wasn’t devotion, it was Slavery and Subjugation. later on shortly after Monarchia and during the time leading up to the Heresy their Combat Doctrine changed and they became What the Emperor wanted them to be, Lorgar a General and the Wordbearers an army. Argel Tal specifically told Lorgar he feared that the wrath they visited in those worlds in the wake of Monarchia would forever brand the Wordbearers as fanatics in the future. Lorgar was also described as being anathema to Conflict, he was spoken of as being meek and caring. In fact many of the Qualities attributed to Vulkan actually belonged to Lorgar when he was still Loyal. There are many instances of him being disquieted and Caring for Humanities plight in the novels, such as when he arrived on Nostramo, he among all the others is specifically described holding Sorrow in his eyes at the Suffering Of the People on Nostramo. In Aurelian, It’s explained that the reason why Lorgar Adopts Chaos is because he is Led to believe that Humanity is headed for the same fate as the Eldar, in that they will in their ignorance Birth another chaos god and be Devoured by it. Lorgar is Told that the Chaos wants to Meld with reality and that by embracing Chaos Humanity can Survive or stave off the Dooming their race as the Eldar did. In addition to that, Lorgar is Given Visions of what will come to pass should he stay with the emperor. Until that point Lorgar struggled with accepting what chaos was and was very much on the fence about siding with them up until that point when Ingethal showed him what would take place if he refused to help chaos, and when next we see him he is firmly sided with chaos. Also had the Group that Lorgar sent to Calth Followed his Orders Then Guilliman would have been killed. What happened at Calth was orchestrated by Kor Phaeron, not Lorgar, it would have been a LOT bloodier and Much more of a Win had They Followed Lorgar’s Orders. That leads me to my last Point, we don’t actually know of the WordBearers we typically see in 40k are what Lorgar considered his true sons. There is a distinction between those who follow specific doctrine established by Apostles on the Dark council, as the entire force sent to Calth were those among his sons who couldn’t let go of their hate of the Ultramarines. And it was made abundantly clear that Lorgar Disliked Kor Phaeron and Erebus. Argel Tal became his Most Favored of sons, and later on in the Book Apocalypse, Amatnim Names the Crimson Lord and Lorgar’s teachings to run counter to that of The Dark council’s. And as for the claim that the Word-bearer’s are the most evil, well that’s a matter of Speculation. The Evil the Wordbearers commit is not without reason, for them because they know first hand that the only way to save Humanity from inevitable destruction is to help them Embrace Chaos. That idea, true or not is far more Noble of an idea then say......... a fraction of the Horrors that an slannesh Devoted emperors child could inflict upon you for its own pleasure. Or what a Nightlord would do just for shits and giggles.
Thank you, brother Blackdog. Ok, I never claim to be an expert on every faction - far from it. I am only a fan too. I do know of some of what you say, but certainly not all. I will definitely do more research before I even entertain the idea of doing Lorgar. But some of this I think comes down to a different perspective. Which is wonderful. That Warhammer 40K can elicit measured and fun discussion is the most compelling thing about the hobby in my mind. I perhaps bought into more of the Dark Council view and less of Lorgar, if you will. I would state that the opinions on the fallen Primarchs can be very difficult indeed, as some of the chaos books make them look so much like wronged wee fellows. Then the view of the Emperor is horrific. But on the other hand I personally think that a lot of this is due to the narrator being an untrustworthy voice. If you only read the chaos centric books then the Emperor is a sociopath and butcher. If you read the loyalist he is a wonderful but flawed human being. I have to try to walk the middle line - so sometimes I just go for that which is going to give the most entertainment and the most of the 'feel' of the Word Bearers. Also two people can read exactly the same book and come out with utterly differing points of view. I will attempt to be more measured with him in the future, but it was only an introduction and that meant that I had to get to what I consider the heart of the issue. I could argue with a lot of the mentioning of Lorgar being compassionate and having a wonderful heart, but I think he is utterly delusional and lying to himself, as his actions simply do not match up to that presentation and self image. But this is the beauty of the hobby. So rich that it can be viewed in a myriad of ways. I change my view on many of the main characters within hours of penning an entry, then back again. Simply put -I will never please all. But I will always listen to everyone;s perspective and try to make the core fans of a group as pleased as possible by championing their faction. I may not have gotten everything right - but at least this faction should now be feared and taken seriously by any newbie who wanders onto the site to get a brief intro. Then they can go on to discover the greys that you are mentioning so well. I hope that makes sense. Thank you for listening. I hope that when I do get to Lorgar that I can go back to this post and make sure I consider all of the many points you have so well articulated and 'future me' is very grateful to you indeed. It will help incredibly :)
True enough Jesse, but the thing that stops me from agreeing completely is the Visions he was shown in The book Aurelian. We aren’t shown what what he saw, it immediately skips from that moment when he asks what will happen should I not help. To his real-time conversation with Magnus. He was clearly Struggling to accept that there is nothing after life but a hell, that there were parasitic beings that fed on abstract concepts and emotions. To being firmly in bed with chaos. One has to wonder what he saw
Baldermort's Guide to Warhammer Thank you for replying. I feel like a Large portion of the Problems are due to poor writing, and people allowing their real life biases to Color their view of a character. I didn’t intend for the Comment to sound Hostile or Belittle this video in any way. I enjoyed it and found it to be Much closer to the truth as opposed to MANY on the Subject of the stereotypical WordBearer in the state of 40k, And because You are providing an invaluable service to the Hobby in that you Snare the Imagination with videos like this and draw people in to an otherwise somewhat Niche hobby. I’d be honored if you would look back to that comment in the future when planning a Lorgar video.
The honour is mine, brother. That you would take the time out to teach me another view, with such a wealth of information and perspective. I never ever know more than a hard-core fan on any faction that is not my own. Never. So, you do me a great boon, my friend. I am sorry if I came across as defensive, it is the cold talking and the disappointment that I have let someone down even a bit. I apologize if it came across as hostile, as it was certainly not my intent. I am always always grateful for a well-constructed discussion with someone else who loves this great hobby and its rich and diverse law. I will definitely be reading your comment and taking a steer from it when I do finally get to the Golden One for a full-on Primarch video. I only do introductions, as otherwise I could spend a year of videos on one faction. Well, most of them. So your comments also help guide others who may watch the video and then hit this section. A service to the uninitiated par excellence. Bravo! Thank you for all of your patience. :)
Came to this channel to learn more of the Chaos factios 'cause I only know World Eaters lore (and superficially at that) and now I have to put htis out there: You, my friend, should be reading Warhammer books to us all. I'd pay good money to listen to you do anything and everything Word Bearer ever written by the Black Library. It's a beautiful skill you've got. Thank you for the short story! It was awesome!! Beautifully done!!
Word Bearers are my favorite legion. Thinking something as maddening and corrosive as Chaos is truly the most righteous path for humanity ... it is an entertaining madness. Eldritch cults are my bread and butter :) I only wish Lorgar wasn’t such a pushover. Perhaps his ten thousand years absent have been busier than we know Addendum: I actually had a theory regarding the Emperor’s status as a God: we know Slaanesh claims all Eldar souls as her own, right? Well, perhaps the reason she’s able to do this is because she devoured the majority of the Eldar pantheon. Maybe if the one and only God of Humanity was consumed by Chaos, then all Mankind would belong to Chaos forevermore. Perhaps it was fate that Lorgar’s book would ironically come to define the Imperium. Perhaps that is why Lorgar seeks to win this war.
This is a masterpiece. It truly captures the dangerous subversive attitudes of the damned legion perfectly. Your narration is, as always, on point. Thank you for all the hard work you do, it's greatly appreciated!!! From one old nerd to another, Ave Imperator.
"I am not a God" says the golden man who appears to his most devote son in an overwhelming preternatural vision and who can make a whole army of superhuman warriors forcibly genuflect on command.
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Word bearer starts to give a speech to the masses.
Vindecare assassin: *heavy breathing*
Freybrand Lol. We definitely need more of the assassinorum out there. ;). Great image though. Mind if I nick it? :).
Thanks for listening, brother. :).
@@Baldermort By all means good sir, nick away. I'm glad I came across your Channel. You're one of the better lore channels out there and I love your video on the Grey Knights.
Keep up the excellent work!
Thank you brother Freybrand. Consider this scene well and truly nicked! Muhahahahahahahahahahaha. :
Thank you for all of your help and constant support, brother. :)
As Word Bearer begin his speech, the Vindicar open his eye, the rifle had drifted off its mark. The assassin squirm so the rifle may rest naturally and closed his eyes. Reopening them he saw the cross hairs hovering over the targets head. His breathing slowed as he stared at his target. His target has brown eyes with hints of green in them. Just breath... Suddenly there was screaming and he lost the target. Blinking he zoomed out he saw the Word Bearer sprawled out on the ground. He didn't even remember taking the shot.
@@cypher4783 in the next hiding spot over a Ratling slings his weapon over his back having just ended the Word Bearer, sneaks up on the Assassin, steals his Exitus pistol and scampers off.
“We were each made for different battles”- Mortarion. This video made me realise the purpose and battle for which Lorgar was meant to fight. A battle for the hearts and minds.
Tom Zhackray thanks for listening brother Tom. :).
Armadio lol. Aye. Something like that. :).
I don’t quite agree with that view of lorgar purpose/specially of war as Valkan, Sanguinius or even the Primarchs Alpha Legion would fit that image better.
I believe that Lorgar was originally meant to be the His Praetorian instead of Dorn. Where the Custodians where the Emperor’s personal bodyguard, the 17th legion would have been his Enforcers with the imperium similar how the 20th are his Secret Service or how the 6th are his executioners while the 12th are more tailored to complete destruction all before their Primarchs came to be.
It seems like fanatical loyalty is the 17th trait like the alpha legion is secret war or the thousand sons are more warp base warfare. The thing that the 17th was fantastically loyal to happened to be religion
It's amazing how the Emperor forgets what he made each for.
Maybe that's how we got to Monarchia. One day he was chilling, considering all the things when he contemplated his sons and their aim...
Cut to the Emperor high-tailing it across the Galaxy as he hopes to out-race the results of a ghastly lack of over-sight.
@@rantymcrant-pants9536 That seems like an interesting refrain for those influenced by the Word Bearers "The Emperor forgets."
The narrator’s contempt for Horus is exquisite. Already off to a good start!
Thanks, brother Richard. Word Bearers are all kinds of special. Wait until you see the end for my take on them in its entirety. I really hope you enjoy it. :)
Baldermort's Guide to Warhammer that epilogue was deliciously evil. So very well done!
Richard Kesner thank you, brother a Richard. It took some doing to get it right. I was a bit too graphic in my first draft. Had to tone it down. Lol.
Elated you enjoyed it. .).
The imperial truth is bald=evil and that you must never trust a primarch without hair.
Roboute Guilliman hmmm. You say this to a man called Baldermort. Bald. Who’s sobriquet is the hairless death?’
*take off kid gloves*.
Oooooohhhhhh. I’m gonna get you, Guilliman. :).
But - silliness aside - thanks for watching, Primarch Guilliman. :).
Logar was the biggest winner in the heresy when you thinking about it he found the Gods he wanted to worship and his father viewed as the god he always saw him as
Heh. yes he was. The Scoundrel. :)
Thanks for listening, brother. :)
Word Bearer: Spends years corrupting a planet
Inquisition: Boom
Word Bearer: *wait that's illegal*
Inquisition: That's what we call a pro gamer move.
A few squads spend years ...inquisition kills imperial world job done...vs n legion decimated in assaults....
And then the Empire loses a planet and Word Bearers lose nothing
@@JoeSmith-sl9bq Well, yeah. Welcome to 40k.
@@Venneroth kind of the way things go. but to say they lost nothing is an understatement. losing that many followers and losing a foothold is quite a blow to chaos. not so much after they incident with the eye but still its something. each chaos space marine lost is actually almost irreplaceable. cheap demonic imitations are one thing but the actual astartes themselves are still limited and their geneseed gets more corrupted over time.
Lorgar was given visions of the future. I still like to think that he realized the only way to turn the Emperor into a god is the Horus Heresy, and all since then.
I'd like to think that when the Emperor rises from the Golden Throne, Lorgar will look at him and say
"See Father, you are a god. My faith is vindicated."
A very nice way of looking at things. I like it. I don;t hold that opinion, but yours is as valid as mine any day of the week. I love this hobby just for that. So much potential for escapism.
But Lorgar is right. His father is indeed now a god and he is probably the most important person in making that happen. :)
Thanks for listening and taking the time to share your thoughts, brother. :)
Oh how that would be a slap to the face for the Corpse Emperor 🤣
lorgars visions of the future are full of shit.
I would only take konrads visions seriously, at least he wasnt full of shit.
The most petty way to win an argument ever.
@@Baldermort How can a Corpse be a God? #VengeanceforMonarchia
All of the horror and death of the Horus Heresy, all of the misery and suffering of the present Imperium, the long fall into the endless dark, all of it was born from a son whose only sin was that he loved his father too much. Tragic.
Religion is the only mistake
@@OverseerXIII A religion born from the love of a son for the father he adored. Lorgar never wanted to be what he became. He just wanted something to love the way he loved his father. The Chaos Gods provided that to him in his darkest hour. Which makes them all the more horrid.
@@HoundofOdin if the Big E actually had foresight, he should have just obliterated lorgar and have one of the lost primarchs take his place instead.
@@OverseerXIII Ironically the religion he made works better than State atheism
You know that he gave his men to demons for eternal torment for information right?
My favourite Erebus moment was, when Kharn stomped his head into the deck of Conqueror !!
Sanguis Extremis..
Dude yes
May I ask in which book this wonderful part is written?
@@andidanga3524 it was in the Betrayer, it´s awesome read.
Preceded by the worst moment ever... Murder of Argel Tal
Kharn once again giving us multiple reasons to love him
“All I ever wanted was the truth”
-Logar
All I ever wanted was to defend my people
- every tyrant ever.
(just a joke brother, just a joke - lorgar is a complicated chap. I look forward to doing his Primarch entry one day. )
Thank you for listening. ;)
Turns out Logar acutely could NOT handle the truth.
@@asaenvolk or, is he the only one who can
And what is truth but the delusional assurance of certainty of that which cannot be, that which never will be or never was.
“YOU CAN’T HANDLE THE TRUTH!”- The Emperor
This actually sounds like someone in universe
That;s what we aim for on the Guides. Immersion. Well, when I pull off a whopper. But it takes a lot of time. So I sometimes take light bite week breaks. :)
Thanks for listening brother. :)
@@Baldermort thisbis great vo work. Should be in the games.
Agreed!
Baldamort if it’s possible look into the production of the Eisenhorn tv series
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I love how so many people (both in universe and out) trash talk Failbaddon.
Quality content as always Baldermort.
Thank you for listening, Midnight. Abaddon? Heh. Daft sod. I have less respect for him than most...... But, I'll wave his flag on his own video. :)
Yeah that’s funny though there was one scene in a book that I really enjoyed with Abaddon talking to talos of the night lords in soul hunter but talos does roast him and his legion that was also funny.
he still killed sigismund...
Red Vexx he’s a corking character. Don’t worry, when he gets his own video he will shine. I always do vids purely from the factions’ perspective. Abaddon is badass. Don’t worry. :).
@@deepblue1846 yes he did. After Sigismund roamed the void for centuries in countless battles. He was by that time an old man and even Failbaddon had nothing but respect for him.
Frightening just how...TRUE...this actually is! Subterfuge, as shown by Alpha Legion, can be a powerful tool...and when combined with rhetoric like the Word Bearers do, it can win worlds with barely a shot fired! Baldermort, your short stories bring the 40k universe to life!
Judge Dredd the Law thank you, Judge. Just trying my best to entertain a bit. :). :).
@@Baldermort spectacular! Will be checking the black templars video....have a special reason to like them ☺️
"They once called my Primarch the 'runt of the litter', 10,000 years on only a single letter of that description has changed."
ROFL!!!¬!!!!!!!! :) :)
Well language does evolve over time...
"I'd faced the servants of the Great Enemy more often than I cared to contemplate, and in my experience it was never wise to underestimate them. Particularly a 10,000 year old madman, who'd been marinating himself in the raw stuff of Chaos for most of that time."
-Commissar Ciaphas Cain
Impressive speech. It's interesting to see an example of just how a Word Bearer would subvert an Imperial world first against local government, then against the wider Imperium, then against the Emperor himself (enslaving them to the will of the gods in the process).
Whilst we World Eaters prefer a more direct path, the World Bearers have nonetheless delivered many Imperial worlds directly into the maw of the Primordial Truth, and certainly deserve respect for the effectiveness of their tactics (just as the Alpha Legion or Night Lords do theirs).
Makes me think of the happy times Uncle Lorgar and Papa Angron had in the HH novel 'Betrayer'. Good memories... 😌
Thank you. Just trying to 'show instead of tell' as it makes things easier for newer players I thought.
The burning of Ultramar.... good times...... good times. :)
The corpse emperor messed up from the beginning. He made the Imperial Heralds fanatics then let a ultra charismatic fanatic lead them. What did he expect he was asking for trouble.
Fair points, brother. I am not sure we will ever know. The difference in the characters from each writer makes it hard to see who is the demon and who is the angel. Always. Which is what makes it all so much fun. :)
Thank you for listening, brother. :)
Hey he gave the 8th to an unstable and broken murderer
@skullpull 101
Is Lorgar a narcissist? He never seemed to place himself far above his peers. He even let Kor Phaeron and Erebus counsel him.
I'm not sure what war crimes he committed either. I've read the Word Bearers greatest brutality was after Monarchia when they complied with the Emperor's demand to conquer more worlds.
@skullpull 101
Soldiers either die for the chaos gods or the god emperor.
I guess I'll need to watch that Arch video. I recall Lorgar taking better care of his sons than most other traitor primarchs. During the dropsite massacre he ran in to protect his Gal Vorbak from Corax, almost getting himself killed in the process.
Lorgar thought highly of himself yes, but not in the same way as his other brothers, he wanted to be a peacekeeper, a philosopher, a writer, an orator. Its easier to explain it by posting a discussion between lorgar and kor phaeron which he admits that he is lesser to his brothers in terms of warfare and fighting but he opines as to why his father (the emperor) would not approve of oration, diplomacy, and philosophy which lorgar excels at.
And like why skypants said, Lorgar was an affection primarch, who literally defied fate by charging against something he KNEW would be his death just to protect his genesons against corax.
Yep...I'm not even going to humor this narrative until I get off work where it will receive my fully devoted attention and a cold beer.
Nuke Dukem thank you, brother. I hope you enjoy it.
Have a beer for me. Not had one in way too long. :).
Nice to see I'm not the only one with this routine
This is literally what i'm doing also.
Wise indeed...
They called him the weakest of the Primarchs; I call "Bullshit!" None of the other Primarchs EVER took on Annrath the Unbound, did they..? but He did. And WON! Not because he was particularly "Martial..." but because He *Believed..!* and that is what is so Fucking *SCARY* about Lorgar, and the Word Bearers as a whole! Burn 'em..? Stab 'em..? Shoot 'em..? Do ALL THE ABOVE AND WORSE..! and they'll just keep on coming... singing and praying all the while...if THAT doesn't scare ya..? (hell, even Konrad Curze wasn't THAT crazy!) nothing will...
Beyond that..? Lorgar is the REAL winner - Both Chaos, and the Imperium are dancing to His song, and His word. Choke on THAT, Papa Smurf!!
The Lion will be the one who will deliver the fate to Lorgar and the Word Bearers which Uncle Roboute should have done...
Well tell that to corax because if there’s one thing a word bearer or lorgar fears it’s hectic bird man
Did he actually beat An'ggrath, or was An'ggrath ordered to lose in order to further draw Lorgar into the service of Chaos?
@@headlibrarian1996 Nope..! Lorgar won, straight up. Conniving, plot twists and other such "surprises..?" are the domain of Tzeentch. (and NO ONE despises The Changer of Ways more than the Blood God!) Lorgar is, perhaps the WORST sort of enemy for The Imperium - He's methodical, calculating and worst of all..? Patient.
What's more he possess the absolute most deadly of Big-E's talents: He's a Powerful, Charismatic public speaker, one capable of inspiring either the best or WORST in those around him! (a few speeches, an few "hymnals" and he'd have folk running head first into enemy fire, with a smile on their faces!)
Lorgar, (like The Emperor) should come w/a warning label - "WARNING..! Charismatic Leader - May be Hazardous to your health."
@@DeltaPi314 Only game where I enjoyed playing the smurfs. So underrated! Btw, still playable today on DOSBox.
"A galaxy of truth..."
That line sticks with me. For people raised on the Imperial Truth, the realization that gods exist, are facts of the universe, would convert many even before notions of corruption and manipulation come into play. One wouldn't even have to be personally evil to worship Chaos; the fact that higher powers literally exist would be more than justification.
That chilled me about Chaos, before faith in the Emperor became an objective force in 40K: for all of its incomprehensible cruelty and horror, Chaos was real/factual/true.
The gods sowed their existence like seeds in the cultures and religions of all worlds that humanity settled..always a quartet, always under differing names and interpertations Khaan, Tazeen, Nergat, Slannat...but they were there before the Dark Age of technology reached its apocalyptic crescendo. And would be there when humanity were but fractured leftovers spread amongst the stars. Alone in the dark void. Yet The gods answered. Fear not the primordial truth.
But, What's a god? So there are being of higher power than humans.
Yes... look at C'tan, Old Ones, Hell even the Tyranid Hive Mind is a higher being in many ways.
Does that mean theyre Gods? No. Thats just a silly word for beings of immense power.
Theyre still JUST beings, capable of being created and destroyed.
All of them are nothing more than more childish mortals, playing in the sandbox of the universe.
Theyre just a slightly bigger creature.
There could be things that dwarf even the chaos 'gods'.
Well, if something or someone is a god it doesn't mean it's good/moral/healthy/as-you-wish-how-to-say-it to worship it (I am looking at you, four certain entities of warp).
But in Emperor's case there is important question: how to worship god worth to worship when is not interested in... being worshiped? I am afraid there's just only one way. Accept... choice. There are still things like admiration and inspiration and following.
So yes, long story short, Lorgan failed in "test". ;)
No matter how often you pronounce the evilness of the Word Bearers, just the way you tell this story makes me sure, they are actually the good guys. Every look at the state of the Imperium, at the Emperor's totalitarian vision, confirms this.
But, still, I will not turn to Chaos.
Cuz dere'z but two godz, an' dey'z Gork 'n' Mork! For in da grim dark future of wotevva dem 'oomies iz countin', only da greenskinz iz 'avin' fun!
WAAAAAGH!
My favorite legion, you are the only one who did them justice on all of youtube. Everyone else portrays them as little more than hurt children. When in reality they are the only ones who truly understand chaos. The loyalists have no idea the Emperor would just wipe them from existence the moment he achieved his precious goal. Chaos is the only truth. Thank you for the work :)
Weird isn't it? I think all of the factions are really interesting, have massive merit in the saga and Word Bearers are NO joke. In this modern era of the Psychic Awakening they are titans. But I am waiting to see what happens when Aurelian comes out of his meditation. Its going to get hectic real fast. :)
Thank you for listening and never let the nay-sayers get you down. :)
@@Baldermort Apparently Lorgar got out of his meditation and got his ass kicked by Corax in one of the new short stories.... which according to me is absolute nonsense...I don't care what magical powers you get in the warp from constantly killing demons, you do NOT beat a literal god just because its cool to the majority. GW are clearly playing favorites and it's becoming a bit too black and white for my liking. However it is lucky that it's all fantasy so i make my own cannon. Many thanks again for all your effort. It really shows
@@evropaawake4421 There are no Gods literal or other wise, the emperor was vary clear, And the Word Bearers are retards that don't have the ability to listen to what they are told. The warp aliens are just that. Different powerful, but nothing as a God Not even a little close. One day, they to will fall, wiped away but others more powerful.
@@lkuhhdsfgasdgvdadfg So you're just ignoring the fact that in the actual lore there are 4 major chaos GODS that very real and interact with the world? Alright then. Sure the Emperor said No, but in the lore it's clear he lied. Besides atheism = meaningless existence, word bearers didn't want a meaningless existence. Simple
@@DeltaPi314 Khorne needs no one to "pray" to him. You know nothing loyalist
The change in voices/accent was a very nice touch. Really feels like an in depth study "in setting".
David Ryan thank you., brother. All of my videos are from the perspective of the faction. So I will contradict myself a lot. But that is the beauty of Warhammer. Lots of ways of looking at it. :)
Thanks for listening. :).
I can understand why the Word bearers turned on the Emperor, If someone wiped out a peaceful city just to prove a point I would have issue with that,
The Emperor could have just asked the Word bearers to speed things up a little with the whole establishing compliance.
Basically the whole Horus Heresy was caused by the big E overacting and Lorgar getting a sulk on.
Johnny hiya, colonel. Well, E did what he did. But Lorgar’s acts were waaay more an issue than his speed. Imperial truth eh?
We can discuss soon I hope. See you at the club - or pop over for a coffee - minimum - game if possible. :).
Thank you for listening. :).
It was much more than just compliance. Lorgar was telling everyone the Emperor was a god, this directly contradicts what the Emperor wanted to portray himself as.
@@Shpongle64 it was still wiping out a perfectly peaceful loyal city just for spite, it was the catalyst for the first Primarch to turn against the Emperor, If big E hadn't done it then the whole civil war may have never happened.
Johnny well you could say a planet is a big thing but in the end he just broke lorgars favorite toy.
And big E was kind of nice by sending the ultramarines and not the world eaters, nightlords or space wolves.
They even discussed the annihilation of lorgar and his legion for the failings.
But lorgar did not care about how „nice“ big E was. Hey just wants to worship. And found the Chaos Gods.
@@robohobo2325 I would hardly call what the Emperor did 'nice'.
Monarchia was not Lorgars 'toy' it was a labor of love dedicate to his father.
If his worship was wrong then why did the Emperor wait a entire century to 'correct' him, Lorgar never hid his faith.
The Ultramarines destruction of Monarchia was also not a clean affair either, they bluntly landed demanding everybody to leave the city or die, threatening the people for asking them why and even killed protesters without hesitation.
Guilliman himself felt that what the Emperor forced him to do was too far and would only lead to trouble.
Lorgar did not want to worship for the sake of it, he wanted the truth because he saw that the Imperial Truth was the lie that it was, the signs throughout the galaxy were too many, the pattern they formed was clear to those who bothered too look.
He did not worship the Emperor as a God because he 'wanted to worship' but because the Emperor was a god in all but name.
He could do the impossible, create or destroy live, make or unmake a world, hell not just worlds entire STAR SYSTEMS.
He saw the effect of the Eldars Fall, feared that the same would happen to humanity and that fear set him on his path.
One of my favorite legions, traitor wise I mean. I love your work man, possibly the greatest 40k channel I've seen so far, keep it up!
Thanks a million, brother Chaoticron. This one was an attempt to get 'more' out of the sound. Bit tiring. Can't say I will be able to do that every time. Well, if its any good. I'm too close to know sometimes.
I hope you enjoy it. :)
@@Baldermort you do good every time, no need to tire yourself out, just keep doing what you're doing, and you'll do fine
Baldermort and Oculus Imperia are the two best 40k channels by far. They put artistry in their vids and go above and beyond.
It's terrifying to think that the Wordbearers might have billions of "cultists" at the snap of their fingers. They have been preaching their word for thousands of years.....
Yep. Scary aren't they? Well, they scare me!
Thank you for listening, brother Black. :)
I thought the voice was gonna cut off when the horus stuff ended, i thought it was taken from an audiobook. But the glorious voice kept coming
I've never been so immersed in a scene brought alive by nothing more than narration.
WOW. I will try not to let you down then. Can;t promise, but I will try, Thank you for listening and the amazing generosity of your comment. Thank you!
this was absolutely brilliant...the narrative was absoluutelly cpativating, and exactly how i imagine the actions of a dark apostle.......excellent job man.
Sindri Myr thank you, brother. I am very relieved you enjoyed it and felt it ‘rang true’. :). Phew. :).
Thank you for listening. :).
When i found your channel i unsubscribed from one mind syndicate and subscribed to you instead. They just read word for word off wikipedia, but you write stuff yourself and even do amazing voices. Well done have a like.
Blue Bowser thank you, brother Blue. OMS are a very different type of channel. They work hard and post daily. I work as hard, but with a different goal. Quantity has a quality all of its own?
I think there is space for all of us really. Not to disagree with you in any way - just to be fair to them really.
I hope you enjoy what we do here. Welcome to the brotherhood. :).
@@Baldermort I guess I just prefer quality over quantity.
Thank you brothers. OMS have covered so many topics its imposbile for me to catch up. So I don;t try and am just concentrating on the fun, drama and entertainment factor. I just want a newbie to have an easier access into the hobby. I hope that my flavour pieces, though never perfect, give people a reason to want to play a faction.
Thank you for listening, brothers. :)
u trip over oms on the way to the others.
Your narrations really humanize this setting, such a great job!
Inignot12 that is exactly what I am aiming at. Trying to make it easier for a newbie to ‘get it’ quickly. Then they can go on to other more heavy-weight channels. :).
Thanks for listening, brother Ingnot. :).
Lorgar just needs a hugg from his dad so he can be a good happy boy again.
Plot twist: In the near future Lorgar gets summoned by the Emperor who says Lorgar was right all along (The Emperor is now a God). The emperor then fixes everything and they all live happily ever after.
Great stuff as always, thanks :)
LOL! Lorgar will need to fix daddy so he can move his arms again for that. ROFL. Thanks for listening. :)
I wonder how a word bearer would try to weasel his way out of the fact that Corax kicked lorgar's empowered backside singlehandedly.
Nathaniel Rourke Lol. Unlikely they would engage in the conversation. ;).
They would probably say he faked it to make konrad’s flank possible
Hard to say they would be bothered so much, Lorgar always was the weakest of the bunch, he did become a full daemon with pimping horns though... so, that's cool.
@@Rogerio_FM I hate this opinion of lorgar being the weakest, he was only considered the weakest primarch because of how long his legion would take to bring a planet under compliance but we know now that this was only due to lorgar using diplomacy striking treaties and building his cities and the populace to worship the emperor. When the word bearers and world eater legions first launched their shadow crusade Angron himself was impressed and felt like he underestimated lorgar and the word bearers legion as they were KEEPING up with angron and his legion possibly waging war even better than them with the butchers nailed enhancing them. Lorgar proved during the hersey he was far from being the weakest primarch.
@@Dr.Gainzzz They mean he's weakest physically as in without counting his chaos powers
Perfect. this was the legion i knew the least about. Now i feel enlightened.
jizburg thank you for saying that, brother. That is why I do it. Love of the factions. The setting. So glad I helped tonight. It makes it all worth while. :).
@@Baldermort are you going to do a reading of the ritual of the damned? I so love hearing you reading that stuff.
Well done again! You bring the lore, the literature and the ZEAL into these videos. You need more subscribers. Your works are easily on Oculus levels.
#BlameLorgar #FuckErebus
Rick thank you, brother. Oc does a different thing to me, I think I envisage people starting here and going on to Oc and LT really. I’m no heavyweight. Just entertainment and maybe a slightly different view.
I hope it’s fun. :).
Thank you for watching, brother. :).
@@Baldermort as I've said before, you are finding your own niche, for sure. But the quality is absolutely there
@@Baldermort Heavyweight enough to delve into the perspective of these characters and their factions, to be the perspective and make it immersing. don't sell yourself short.
Foul Mood Central gratuitously kind of you, brother. Let’s just go immersive and see where in it takes us. :). Let us old hands shoe the newbie what they are
Missing! :). And than you brother, for your kindness. It means the world. .)?
Lorgar is a good boy, he's just misunderstood...
Bwahahahaahahaah. From a certain point of view, non?
Thanks for listening, brother Lucius.
I was thinking this as well, I said to myself "Why, him having excellent oratory skill, philsophy, faith, etc. was he not able to plead his case better?" Was it a failing on the part of the Emperor to not adequately warn Lorgar, to chastise him first better, in private? Then again, Lorgar did, against pragmatism amd wastefully divert resources away from the Emperor and his plan and put them to use in a way that didn't help him.
The Inundation well, sometimes no argument, no matter how brilliant, gets results. If someone slew a family member, would their reason be worth it? Few would listen.
I think there is some disconnect and dissonance in writing the Emperor from some BL books. But I try to tie it up if I can. Lorgar and Angron are tough sells to me for a reasonable Emperor. It’s going to take some serious thought and juggling for an emperor video.
But perhaps two. A flip side set piece couple. Urg. Make my head hurt already. Lol.
One day we will get to the emperor. When I am good enough. Not for a while yet then. Lol. :).
@@Baldermort we were talking, and need to know how many lozenges we need to bribe you with to get a good Angron? 😂
@@TheInundation I mean was it wasteful? they took their time but I doubt any world conquered by the wordbearers would ever revolt. A couple generations of peace and people will forget the terror of the nightlords; a century of prosperity and people will question why are they paying this distant faceless tyrant of the stars, while growing fat off guilliman's infraestructure; give them a generation and they'll start thinking that the angels of death that will castigate them if they revolt are just a tall tale of fat aristocrats and weird red robed spooks trying to cling to power; with time the banners of the great fortress will fade and maybe it's guardian's memories of the hands that built it and the gauntleted fist that ordered their ancestors to watch over it will fade with them. Not to say that his aproach was anything close to the best but it had it's merits in a galaxy were the main institution was this necesarilly artificial empire oddly full of religious imagery.
My prefered excuse to the inconsistency of big E with Lorgar is that he knew he was telling a boldface lie and the the primarchs were a walking ever looming threat to his imperial truth,so he did what most people liying under a galaxy sized amount of preasure do and just stuck to the rehearsed script and tried to not draw the attention of his hyper inteligent supersons to the lie. So he just sent Lorgar into the galaxy like all of his troops, blind lambs into forest infested with multi-headed, fire-breathing, tentacle-covered wolves maybe trusting that the wolves were few and the forest big enough that they wouldn't find that many till they conquered everything. That might be an awfully hopeful shot in the best of circumstances but the great crusade was a giant leap of faith allready so I guess it was't hard to just hope a little more.
So in that silent desperation of a contraband carrying person in an airport he hoped; he hoped that the iconoclasts would change Lorgar as they were as opposite to their primarch as any legion could be and that would make the result of the reunion the opposite of all the others( assuming The Emperor had the time to notice any of the effects of the other reunions beyond combat results). So when he found that Lorgar was endangering all that was sacrificed in the altar of defeating Chaos reminding him that people,even among his bulwark against terror, could choose not to head his lie two of the most human emotions took the place of hope, anger and fear. So he scolded his "son" like one scolds a dog that dugged under the flowers of the backyard, there was little teaching and much venting and self-reasuring that he was indeed holding the leash. Maybe it was thinking less of the mortals and more of a choir of laughing gods, a demonstration of his power over his shinning sword made to kill the darkness.
So he left the naughty dog and hole on the backyard for latter, as there would be time for fixing what was broken after he was done. For the end was in sight, the gods grew weaker with every day that passed as all the bridges to their realms burned in the fires of his curated creed of reason and their voices were drowned in the roaring of his perfect machines of war, for his dogs lead them well while he held 18 leashes.
Or maybe is just bad characterization, sorry for the wall of text but your videos are kinda inspiring dude, great stuff.
Word Bearers are my favorite Chaos marine faction! I can't believe I just discovered this channel today. Gonna binge all your Warhammer 40K vids. 😁
He said "Do you even deserve that description?" WHOO that hit heavy! Wonderful voice acting!
*Continually claims he isn’t a god*
*Forces an entire Legion to kneel before him by psychic will alone. From billions of miles away.*
Lorgar: “This is bs!”
Because it is. He is definitely more than just an exremely powerful psyker.
Wow how have I missed this channel for so long? The voice acting/story telling is phenomenal!!!
Can't wait to see a future video for the Iron Warriors, this guy blows most other lore channels out of the ballpark.
You sir just got a new subscriber, can't wait to watch the rest of the content already here!
I absolutely adore how you manage to get this pure feeling of contempt, and hatred via "spitting" the word and even syllables and letters sometimes
That is head and shoulder above pretty much anything I ever heard in term of quality. That voice and the narration style is superb.
A gripping piece of voice acting,
Vincent Price meets Issac Asminov meets Cormick McCarthy.
Lemme just "wow" and "Bravo". Exceptional work sir.
I don't really leave comments, but this narration is honestly breathtaking. Please keep making videos!
everyone blames Lorgar when the true blame and failure lies solely on the shoulders of the Corpse Emperor for being an abyssmal dad..
The story element was so expertly written i went to the description to see what book it was from. Absolutely amazing job
Another fantastic video! what a narration! the story at the start and end is just icing on the lore-cake! I am looking forward to the Primarch videos.
Thanks Brother! I will be starting another Primarch very soon. Traitor, of course. :)
Brother, the productionquality of this Video is awesome. Unique amongst all 40k Lore Channels. That speech gave me chills. KILL KILL KILL
Thank you, brother Cassidy. I will endeavour to try to improve. Some things take a loooong time to get done. Crowds are definitely one of them. :) If the background sound effects help, then more there shall be! Thanks for that also. I loved doing that speech. I did have a longer version, but it was simply too long, so I had to take the highlights. Elated that it did the job in its condensed version. :)
Thanks for listening, as always. : )
This is ace! I'm so thankful i've found your channel. It scratches a much needed 40k-lore-audiobook-ish itch!
emil viuff welcome to the channel and tribe.
Thanks for listening brother. :).
Amazing narrative sir! Love you’re content. Keep up the amazing work. Future Black Library voice actor sir!
Thank you, brother Bryan. Phew. :)
The 5 minute mark on, the crowd? That was such a good new addition. It definitely "works"!
Yes, I think the Word Bearers are likely the most dangerous, as they are, being of Chaos Undivided, eminently adaptable!
Thanks Brother Inundation - it took a looot to do. But I can keep putting in there if it works. Just not every week. Lol But if the sound effects help then we can use them. more.
Many thanks. :)
This is awe inspiring I can tell you put your all in this the word Bearers are always underestimated good to see them get some shine!
I tend to try to stick up for the downtrodden factions a bit more than some. As you say, I thought they deserved some shine. Epic army. Most are, but some don;t see the appeal. Its very subtle indeed. :)
Thank you for listening and commenting, brother Coswell. :)
Lorgar's fall hurts because it all boils down to " His dad was a piece of shit that just wasn't a good enough dad and pushed him into the waiting arms of evil gods. If he wasn't a shitter and just was honest with his sons, told them WHY they needed to censor the gods out of human history and general knowledge then they would have all known their foe and prepared accordingly. " Instead he left his children all woefully unprepared and some even set up perfectly to fall right into the waiting slavering maws of Chaos.
The mere mention of the Word Bearers makes my bile to rise!!!!
It took me a long time to listen to this entry, not because of the masterful skills of Lord Baldermort, but that Lorgar was so.... I do not even know the proper word to describe my primal feeling towards him.
My homemade chapter of Space Marines that I created way back in the early days of 40K was geared towards the hunting down and eliminating traitor marines but Word Bearers above the rest.
I feel your anger, Brother.
What happened at Monarchia was extreme. Miscalculated even.
But Lorgar and his bastards ruined EVERYTHING.
It was they that turned brothers and cousins against each other and sold humanity out to those four Warp Cancers masquerading as Gods.
*You sound like an evil narrator for a kids show, and it's pretty excellent.*
Awesome video as always. You bring the characters to life in a way few others can. Thank you!
Thank you for that, brother Silent. I'll keep trying to maintain the characterisations then. ;)
Amazing vid! The Word Bearers are one of my favorite traitor legions. This story truly does them justice.
Thank you for that, brother. Its an introduction and a flavour piece only. So it won;t please all. But I am elated you enjoyed it. :)
By the dark Gods, I love your narrating voice... Truly blessed by Slaanesh!
Just subscribed. As a Word Bearers player, I must say that I love your channel and your content. Thank you.
Thank you for listening, brother. :)
Another great, entertaining and informative performance. Phenomenal work mate. You should be proud of what you've achieved in such a short amount of time as a youtuber. Well done.
Thank you, brother. Onwards and upwards, hopefully. :)
Thank you for listening, brother. Always. :)
Yep, I've found the best TH-cam channel for bedtime stories!
Just wow...
I'm a huge fan of the word, it's my mine army for years. But your narration with the music, the story... your voice.
I watch a lot of 40k lore and clip but this 1.... just wow...
Dude I love your voice, it's calm, soothing and yet menacing
Glad to hear it! :) :)
Wow, I learned a lot about the Word Bearers from this video! I not only got raw information, but a wonderful experience that drips with the spirit of the 40k universe. I love this format you have on your videos: a story narrated by a 3rd or 1st party, then followed up by the lore (and in this special treat, the ending part of the story). The two play into each other perfectly - the story colors the lore, and the lore builds greater appreciation for not only the story but the 40k universe as a whole. It all serves to not only entertain but educate the viewer.
Bravo! You earned a subscriber here. I'll be sure to tell my friends and get you a little further to "40k" subscribers. ;)
Dark Apostle was my introduction to the Warhammer 40K universe, and still to this day the Word Bearers hold a special place in my heart. Thank you so much for such a wonderful telling of their lore.
I mean this in all the best ways, but you could probably be a perfect Word Bearer.
LOL! :) :) :)
This guy takes his narration on a scale from 1-10 to a 20. Can we not give this guy the job to narrate all the audiobooks.
Painting time! Again this was worth the wait. Thank you!
Spekd* thank you for listening, brother. I hope the brushes were accurate and the paint obeyed. :).
@@Baldermort oh! how they obeyed. How they stayed within every line.
Magnificent. Glad it helped pass the time easier. :)
The fact you labored 30 hour for this beautiful piece is such an impressive achievement, I'm blown away. Thank you so much for this incredible video 🌸
Excellent job mate, you have really upped your game
Thanks, boss. Took a loooot of time to do. So fiddly, still made a gaggle of errors. But all a learning curve. :)
NECRONS!!!
@@Duppyman695 NECRONS!!
The Silent King is coming soon!!!
You really bring this piece of writing to life! You sound exactly like what I'd imagine a Word Bearer to sound like, incredible job!
ahahaha, that vitriolic derision of the Lupical line for 2 minutes was epic!
I like your narration. You manage to give soul to your words. I like how you portrayed the character. Prideful and cunning. It makes me want to keep being a chaos player.
Thank you brother Crasher.
*bows to brother crasher*.
Don’t give too much brother. I am astonishingly grateful. But I do want you to be ok.
Get sone hobby stuff - have fun. :).
Chaos is so juicy to play. Excellent choice. Really looking forward to playing my Iron Warriors next year. :)
After rewacthing I have decided that this is the best 40k video on TH-cam, keep up the good work brother!
Amazingly generous of you. Amazingly. But there are so many good sites out there. Hence us being so tiny here.
But : So far..... so far. The skills are only improving here on the guides. I am still not where I want us to be. But maybe one day.;
Thank you for your generosity in commenting, brother. :)
I keep coming back to this one, truly strong writing! One of my favourite legions.
I Wonder what a pre-heresy WordBearers displaced in time to the post Heresy would make of the Imperium?. What would the Imperium make of them?
That'd make for a cool premise for a short story, actually. I'd read that.
Never seen this channel before, gotta say, first line in and I feel like I just bought this audio book from black library. Brilliant quality, outstanding actually. Keep going mate, when this hits the wider 40k audience, I think this will go down a absolute treat! Liked, subbed, shared. No problem.
Joe Darby thank you, brother. It does take a lot of effort to do, but I like to think it is worth it. :).
Thank you for liking and taking the time out to comment. But thanks a billion for sharing. TH-cam isn’t my best friend when it comes to sharing my videos. Lol. Thank you. :).
Baldermort's Guide to Warhammer no, thank you!
Had a new revelation concerning the Blood Ravens.......... The Blood Ravens were created for the dawn of war series of games. In the faction introduction for Chaos dark crusade and the dialogue between the Blood Ravens and Chaos. The answers lie there..... The Gene father for the Blood Ravens is.......... Lorgar Aurelian! Known also as the Urizen (wisest of the wise) in light of all this just think of thier battle cry:" knowledge is power, guard it well." TTFN!
*jaw hits floor*
I now need to watch all of the cut scenes again. My last Computer died so I don't have it on a near completed save.
Damn Sergeant! Damn!!!!!!!
@@Baldermort LOL! My son played it for me on his phone and my mouth was open in utter shock.... You can search: Dawn of war Dark Crusade - All Intro Cutscenes. TTFN!
@@Baldermort Also in the Chaos intro cut scene where the word bearers are fighting the Ultra Marines the Chaos banner bearer's banner looks strikingly like the Blood Ravens chapter banner. Whether this banner is simply an oversight by the developers of the game or not, the game originally wasn't cannon, but over time it has become official lore. TTFN!
@@Baldermort The only other legion that one could argue given this (revelation) would be the Red Angel's Bloody thirteenth. But the Blood Ravens lack the um...... (fanatical zeal for visceral melee) that even the pre- herasy War Hounds possessed. But seem to wield the cold fury of the Imperial Heralds. TTFN!
Actually the Primarch of the Blood Ravens is Magnus the Red apparently.
In all seriousness, you are phenomenal!! I wait with baited breath for each narration you release. Your style, depth of passion and your love of the setting shine through like the Holy Astronimicon itself. You, Lord Baldemort, are a master storyteller, an artist.
Your words are your paint and brushes, and like Van Gogh, and da Vinci, you paint a scene of wonder.
like Bernini and Michelangelo, you sculpt an experience worthy of divine reverence.
please, in the name of Him upon Terra, cease not thy labors.
🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Arch (of Warhammer fame) did a good video about Lorgar. Essentially, Lorgar was always a monster. He excused his actions by blaming others. First, he tried to put it on the Emperor. The Emperor, through the actions at Monarchia, rebuked Lorgar. So, Lorgar, unwilling to face the things he'd done, went looking for another "god" he can use to justify his actions. And the Chaos gods were waiting.
This is truly incredible work! I subscribed within just a few minutes. You give a fantastic Chaos sermon. I have heard audiobooks of much lower quality than this fine video. I will certainly check out the rest of the content you create.
Well, not all are as in depth sound wise, but we are trying to make the big ones more immersive. Its fiddly work, but I think it is worth it. Thank you for joining us on the guides, brother Inthemorn. :_)
Shivers and hairs on my arms standing to hear this masterpiece. Bang on sir 👏
That was amazing!! You did my favourite Legion so much justice!!
Your narration was so fantastic, perhaps you are a deciple of the 'True Word'?
Excellent work!!
The intro is the greatest diss track of the 41st millennium
Your lore and introductory videos are superb, sir, and your voice is terrifying. Well done.
Incredible. The story was delightfully horrifying and coupled with the lore and excellent narration gave me chills. The Word Bearers truly are the biggest threat facing the Imperium of Man. The only faction truly interested in the Soul of Mankind and they may win it. Truly horrifying.
This was my first video of yours a bit back, and damn is it just as good as a remember it. I did like the idea of The Wordbearers, but the way you present them and the son of Lorgar you portrayed really encapsulates what caught attention about them, I would really love to see them more in modern 40k and really hope to see them in Dark Heresy campaign I have coming up. Either way, this is still my favorite video or yours and I really hope to hear more from this Wordbearer someday in your videos.
Hello, I recently ran across your videos for the first time a week ago and that quickly became a sub as well as a question. Do you use any post-production on the voice? I only ask because your style of presentation and vocal techniques remind me of the legendary Vincent Price in how you deliver the narration, just much more bass to the voice, and I think that is absolutely wonderful as that kind of theatre evokes so much more, even with information that pretty much everyone watching these videos already knows very well. If there was a time machine, we should send you back to the 90s so you can voice the Atmosfear games and their like, you have that late night horrow show voice. Keep it up guy!
michael murphy alas, my post production is torturous, as my ability to read out clearly is still very new. So I end up removing errors, breathing, etc. But do I put myself through any alteration? Nope. I just give it my best amateurish go and hope it’s tolerable. :).
Price is a legend. Legend. If only I were half as talented. I only started in September on lore and voice work - apart from being silly in roleplaying games - so it’s very much a work in progress. Glad it’s ok. Thank you for listening. :).
This was my very first video I saw from channel. It’s so good I keep coming back to this time and again. You really did a terrific job on this subject and of the quality of the video. 👏👏👏
The further I get into the lore of the Imperium of Man, the more I realise that the Emperor made some stupid decisions. He could have used Lorgar to great effect as he was.
Good video tho. 💪🏾
you also have to consider it wouldn't be as interesting if there was no rebellion.
Yep. The Emperor is made to be the PERFECT human being YET he SUCKS AT PHILOSOPHY
> Be big E
> make 20 sons
> 1 son worship you and the worlds he brings are loyal
> does not use in his advantage
> destroys his sons life's and dedicated work to you
> profit.
From Warhammer 40k short: "Faith"
Word Bearers: " A corpse who worships another corpse on Golden Throne.. "
I appreciate the work you put into this as it’s actually quite good.
There were a few errors that are small but need to be said as Meme lore is ruining everything.
The Emperor knew full well that Lorgar was religious and simply didn’t care. Remember that there was weeks of feasting and celebration in the God Emperor’s name that the Emperor was made to take part in directly after Discovering Lorgar in Colchis.
On Monarchia the Emperor was very clear He was upset that the WB were slow in their conquest, and then the argument became about religion and the Divinity or Lack thereof for the emperor because of Snide comments made by Malcador and later the Emperor.
Lorgar wasnt a Fanatic and neither were the Word bearers until shortly before, during and after the Heresy.
the First heretic explains this, as when Argel Tal is forced to his knee he is so Horrified that he makes a comment about how this wasn’t devotion, it was Slavery and Subjugation. later on shortly after Monarchia and during the time leading up to the Heresy their Combat Doctrine changed and they became What the Emperor wanted them to be, Lorgar a General and the Wordbearers an army. Argel Tal specifically told Lorgar he feared that the wrath they visited in those worlds in the wake of Monarchia would forever brand the Wordbearers as fanatics in the future.
Lorgar was also described as being anathema to Conflict, he was spoken of as being meek and caring. In fact many of the Qualities attributed to Vulkan actually belonged to Lorgar when he was still Loyal. There are many instances of him being disquieted and Caring for Humanities plight in the novels, such as when he arrived on Nostramo, he among all the others is specifically described holding Sorrow in his eyes at the Suffering Of the People on Nostramo.
In Aurelian, It’s explained that the reason why Lorgar Adopts Chaos is because he is Led to believe that Humanity is headed for the same fate as the Eldar, in that they will in their ignorance Birth another chaos god and be Devoured by it. Lorgar is Told that the Chaos wants to Meld with reality and that by embracing Chaos Humanity can Survive or stave off the Dooming their race as the Eldar did. In addition to that, Lorgar is Given Visions of what will come to pass should he stay with the emperor. Until that point Lorgar struggled with accepting what chaos was and was very much on the fence about siding with them up until that point when Ingethal showed him what would take place if he refused to help chaos, and when next we see him he is firmly sided with chaos.
Also had the Group that Lorgar sent to Calth Followed his Orders Then Guilliman would have been killed. What happened at Calth was orchestrated by Kor Phaeron, not Lorgar, it would have been a LOT bloodier and Much more of a Win had They Followed Lorgar’s Orders.
That leads me to my last Point, we don’t actually know of the WordBearers we typically see in 40k are what Lorgar considered his true sons. There is a distinction between those who follow specific doctrine established by Apostles on the Dark council, as the entire force sent to Calth were those among his sons who couldn’t let go of their hate of the Ultramarines. And it was made abundantly clear that Lorgar Disliked Kor Phaeron and Erebus. Argel Tal became his Most Favored of sons, and later on in the Book Apocalypse, Amatnim Names the Crimson Lord and Lorgar’s teachings to run counter to that of The Dark council’s.
And as for the claim that the Word-bearer’s are the most evil, well that’s a matter of Speculation. The Evil the Wordbearers commit is not without reason, for them because they know first hand that the only way to save Humanity from inevitable destruction is to help them Embrace Chaos.
That idea, true or not is far more Noble of an idea then say......... a fraction of the Horrors that an slannesh Devoted emperors child could inflict upon you for its own pleasure.
Or what a Nightlord would do just for shits and giggles.
LOL. That was hilariously put, brother Jesse. :)
Thank you, brother Blackdog.
Ok, I never claim to be an expert on every faction - far from it. I am only a fan too.
I do know of some of what you say, but certainly not all.
I will definitely do more research before I even entertain the idea of doing Lorgar. But some of this I think comes down to a different perspective. Which is wonderful. That Warhammer 40K can elicit measured and fun discussion is the most compelling thing about the hobby in my mind.
I perhaps bought into more of the Dark Council view and less of Lorgar, if you will. I would state that the opinions on the fallen Primarchs can be very difficult indeed, as some of the chaos books make them look so much like wronged wee fellows. Then the view of the Emperor is horrific. But on the other hand I personally think that a lot of this is due to the narrator being an untrustworthy voice. If you only read the chaos centric books then the Emperor is a sociopath and butcher. If you read the loyalist he is a wonderful but flawed human being.
I have to try to walk the middle line - so sometimes I just go for that which is going to give the most entertainment and the most of the 'feel' of the Word Bearers. Also two people can read exactly the same book and come out with utterly differing points of view. I will attempt to be more measured with him in the future, but it was only an introduction and that meant that I had to get to what I consider the heart of the issue. I could argue with a lot of the mentioning of Lorgar being compassionate and having a wonderful heart, but I think he is utterly delusional and lying to himself, as his actions simply do not match up to that presentation and self image. But this is the beauty of the hobby. So rich that it can be viewed in a myriad of ways. I change my view on many of the main characters within hours of penning an entry, then back again. Simply put -I will never please all. But I will always listen to everyone;s perspective and try to make the core fans of a group as pleased as possible by championing their faction.
I may not have gotten everything right - but at least this faction should now be feared and taken seriously by any newbie who wanders onto the site to get a brief intro. Then they can go on to discover the greys that you are mentioning so well.
I hope that makes sense. Thank you for listening. I hope that when I do get to Lorgar that I can go back to this post and make sure I consider all of the many points you have so well articulated and 'future me' is very grateful to you indeed. It will help incredibly :)
True enough Jesse, but the thing that stops me from agreeing completely is the Visions he was shown in The book Aurelian.
We aren’t shown what what he saw, it immediately skips from that moment when he asks what will happen should I not help. To his real-time conversation with Magnus.
He was clearly Struggling to accept that there is nothing after life but a hell, that there were parasitic beings that fed on abstract concepts and emotions. To being firmly in bed with chaos.
One has to wonder what he saw
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Thank you for replying.
I feel like a Large portion of the Problems are due to poor writing, and people allowing their real life biases to Color their view of a character.
I didn’t intend for the Comment to sound Hostile or Belittle this video in any way. I enjoyed it and found it to be Much closer to the truth as opposed to MANY on the Subject of the stereotypical WordBearer in the state of 40k, And because You are providing an invaluable service to the Hobby in that you Snare the Imagination with videos like this and draw people in to an otherwise somewhat Niche hobby.
I’d be honored if you would look back to that comment in the future when planning a Lorgar video.
The honour is mine, brother. That you would take the time out to teach me another view, with such a wealth of information and perspective. I never ever know more than a hard-core fan on any faction that is not my own. Never. So, you do me a great boon, my friend. I am sorry if I came across as defensive, it is the cold talking and the disappointment that I have let someone down even a bit. I apologize if it came across as hostile, as it was certainly not my intent. I am always always grateful for a well-constructed discussion with someone else who loves this great hobby and its rich and diverse law.
I will definitely be reading your comment and taking a steer from it when I do finally get to the Golden One for a full-on Primarch video. I only do introductions, as otherwise I could spend a year of videos on one faction. Well, most of them. So your comments also help guide others who may watch the video and then hit this section. A service to the uninitiated par excellence. Bravo!
Thank you for all of your patience. :)
Came to this channel to learn more of the Chaos factios 'cause I only know World Eaters lore (and superficially at that) and now I have to put htis out there: You, my friend, should be reading Warhammer books to us all. I'd pay good money to listen to you do anything and everything Word Bearer ever written by the Black Library. It's a beautiful skill you've got. Thank you for the short story! It was awesome!! Beautifully done!!
Word Bearers are my favorite legion. Thinking something as maddening and corrosive as Chaos is truly the most righteous path for humanity ... it is an entertaining madness. Eldritch cults are my bread and butter :)
I only wish Lorgar wasn’t such a pushover. Perhaps his ten thousand years absent have been busier than we know
Addendum: I actually had a theory regarding the Emperor’s status as a God: we know Slaanesh claims all Eldar souls as her own, right? Well, perhaps the reason she’s able to do this is because she devoured the majority of the Eldar pantheon. Maybe if the one and only God of Humanity was consumed by Chaos, then all Mankind would belong to Chaos forevermore. Perhaps it was fate that Lorgar’s book would ironically come to define the Imperium. Perhaps that is why Lorgar seeks to win this war.
This is a masterpiece. It truly captures the dangerous subversive attitudes of the damned legion perfectly. Your narration is, as always, on point. Thank you for all the hard work you do, it's greatly appreciated!!!
From one old nerd to another, Ave Imperator.
Thank you for making my work day at a computer just that much more enjoyable.
Evan Pacheco thank you brother. Light entertainment. I am glad it helped the drudge. :).
Your intro stories and oculus imperia are honestly some of the best warhammer content out there!
"I am not a God" says the golden man who appears to his most devote son in an overwhelming preternatural vision and who can make a whole army of superhuman warriors forcibly genuflect on command.
The info on logars point of view of a test is brilliant Great vid👍
That was brilliant
This is awesome. I haven't seen a better lorechannel yet, good job.