A $3 Million Kickstarter got us this? Elegoo OrangeStorm Giga

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  • Well it was fun while it lasted but after multiple 3D Prints, odd construction choices and some unnecessary fails I've finally fallen out of love with the soon to be released Elegoo OrangeStorm Giga. While I was initially over the moon to get this behemoth of a machine, after using it more it began to show design flaws and issues.
    With it being born from a $3.3 Million Kickstarter (that only wanted $100K initially) this machine boasted some promising build designs however other corners were cut and it has greatly impacted the final product. I say final product because I have no faith that Elegoo will correct ANY of the flaw myself or other early testers have found before shipping this machine out to the backers and buyers.
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  • @lynk1531
    @lynk1531 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +190

    I'm so glad for the 3D legends like yourself that keep it real about newer products. It stinks the companies don't send the test printers during the campaigns, but it makes sense because they wouldn't get as many backers with honest reviews or have to address things before the massive rollout 😅

    • @AlbertoMartinez765
      @AlbertoMartinez765 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      actually a Lot of the KS DO Give out early prototypes take feedback and then sometimes make changes. Half of Uncle Jessie TH-cam's are early Test Prototypes like this so they have no excuse. This Printer was sent out to TH-camrs to test before it went out months ago, Elegoo has No excuse.

    • @radish6691
      @radish6691 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I like Frank but I wouldn’t put him in the elite category. Maker’s Muse, CNC Kitchen, Made with Layers, Teaching Tech are all S rank. I’d put Frank at B rank. Solid skills, entertaining videos, mostly basic projects and finishing these days. I’m not criticizing, I watch his videos as soon as they drop…he’s definitely earned his 1M subs but he’s still got some leveling up to do 😁

  • @steve_dudu
    @steve_dudu 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    These types of videos always get the least views but require the most knowledge/experience. Thank you, genuinely, for being a real one.

  • @UncleJessy
    @UncleJessy 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +137

    Fantastic video and fully feel the frustration with this and other machines that 100% need to be tested more before being sent out to people. That said… I do have a handful of Giga mods I’m testing out in a video tomorrow that will hopefully address a few of the issues you mentioned 🤞

    • @knowkontrolmusic
      @knowkontrolmusic 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      :D cant wait to see this... tho yeah frank is like why do we need to mod a printer to get it to work well. I kinda agree. I have the max 4, and it was not really useful out of the box.

    • @awkwardsaxon9418
      @awkwardsaxon9418 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The mod it really needs is a chube hotend so you can actually use the massive size

    • @proaudiorestore8926
      @proaudiorestore8926 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@knowkontrolmusic let’s be fair though, this is how elegoo rolls and as soon as the current model gets kinda dialled in, they release a new version with newer components and walk away from supporting the older machine. In elegoos world, the public are their beta testers. They always have been.

    • @vikingking5819
      @vikingking5819 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Sad to hear about Frank had divorce and he had and is living with his mom now

    • @knowkontrolmusic
      @knowkontrolmusic 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@proaudiorestore8926 :( yeah the community tends to come to the rescue

  • @labiq1896
    @labiq1896 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +66

    Basically, its a glorified OG Ender 5 Plus with stationary bed:
    -Expensive
    -Bed leveling problem
    -Bed flatness problem
    -and other things

    • @FranklyBuilt
      @FranklyBuilt  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

      ….that was. Painfully accurate

    • @DanielCikic
      @DanielCikic 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@FranklyBuilt ...and the really sad part is, how old the E5 basically is. Not that familiar with Cruelities lineup but I'm struggling to see a major difference to replicator designs/clones from 10+ years ago. Is there something I'm missing or did they just need to come up with a design old enough to seem new to the market? ^^
      (We've removed a rod, two pulleys and a closed loop belt from the design and replaced it with couplers on the Y stepper, yeah!)

    • @javs2406
      @javs2406 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This is so accurate... I love my E5+ to bits, but I love it bc I know it's an old printer that needs tinkering to work right.
      But man doing all that work on a $2500 printer... nah that's not the way to go

  • @officialgman
    @officialgman 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +134

    You should print small objects massive to put in that room so you look like ant man in that room 😂

    • @DrLesterTheSmith
      @DrLesterTheSmith 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Yes! I would donate filament to that cause!

    • @DrLesterTheSmith
      @DrLesterTheSmith 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @franklybuilt you should also print an AntMan suit to go with it!

    • @JaXxX410
      @JaXxX410 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Deadpool 3 Antman helmet complete with skull

    • @uiopuiop3472
      @uiopuiop3472 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@JaXxX410 that wuld be made in ohio❣bestregards

  • @Real_Name_Redacted
    @Real_Name_Redacted 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +44

    I agree.
    When the printer works as expected, and you want to upgrade. That's fine. (And fun).
    But if you spend 2.5k and you are expected to upgrade just to make it work as expected, that's a problem.
    Upgrades should be fun, not mandatory.
    They really should have caught that in testing

    • @darkshadowsx5949
      @darkshadowsx5949 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      just like my 9 yo printer, it worked as expected out of the box from a Chinese factory. granted it was just a box of parts but i expected crap and got crap.
      i had to print a broken fan shroud. I been upgrading it here and there to keep up with new hardware. its still kicking. its even running on klipper which wasn't a thing 9 years ago.
      If i bought a $14k mark forge onyx and got crap i would be furious. those printers are built well and print like you expect every time. i think the print settings are controlled by the company so end users cant mess it up and complain.

  • @stevoz748
    @stevoz748 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    13:26 Franks arms are JACKED lol

  • @Shaerky
    @Shaerky 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +50

    Can we acknowledge how well spoken frank is, trying 3d printing content myself, you sure make it look easy 😂. Great video Frank

  • @Anthony-pz3hg
    @Anthony-pz3hg 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Can't decide whether this video is more about 3D printing or muscle flexing ... the posing is unreal 😂

    • @2adamast
      @2adamast 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Looks like a synthol advertisement. My projection I just got 14 pounds off out of overweight

  • @leeball4
    @leeball4 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    You just described how I feel about my Neptune 4 Max, I pre-ordered that sucker the minute it went live I was so excited for a large format printer with klipper. I want to love that thing so much but it's been 1 step forward and 2 steps back with no cameo from MC Skat kat. Every time I feel like I'm ready to run with that thing it kicks me in the balls again. I've since added a K1 and a P1S to my garden and it makes me mad at Elegoo because those 2 machines just work. I know the K1 had it's problems at launch but they cleared up relatively quick, the N4 Max seems like it's inventing new problems weekly. It has taught me the valuable lesson to never be an early adopter with a 3D printer. I feel bad for everyone pre-ordering that new AnyCubic color printer, trust me just wait a couple months folks, the industry at large has proven they don't invest in proper testing.

    • @rodgers31372
      @rodgers31372 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      there were already reviews and leaks about the Kobra 3 multicolor having problems and there still no reviewers publishing full testing content about it

  • @doncowboy6625
    @doncowboy6625 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +146

    Existing or established companies should be banned from Kickstarter, regardless of industry.

    • @arbitrary_username
      @arbitrary_username 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Then it will be 95% scam

    • @ellingtonlinford8663
      @ellingtonlinford8663 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      It's already 95% scams

    • @arbitrary_username
      @arbitrary_username 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@ellingtonlinford8663 guess you are right, last time I checked has been half a decade ago.

    • @Kx0195
      @Kx0195 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Absolutely. Modern companies would rather take the profit their company makes with no risk, they're putting the risk of product failures on their customers and that's not acceptable.

    • @arbitrary_username
      @arbitrary_username 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Kx0195 But at least they put their brand at risk, when they act badly on kickstarter and won't scam you completely like many others there.

  • @barrettdent405
    @barrettdent405 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Chinese printer companies rush products to market as a general rule to combat rampant industrial espionage. If you wait long enough to refine your product, your competitor will beat you to market. Being first is more important to them than anything else. This is where Bamboo Labs is a bigger disruptor than the credit they get for it. Delivering a pretty refined consumer product is way different than the “kit printer” mentality of so many of the incumbents. Also, 3D printer communities have become unbelievably toxic places in general.

    • @youtubehandlesux
      @youtubehandlesux 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nah bambu lab is what made 3d printer space so toxic. Attracted so many shitheads that think they are superior for not knowing how 3d printer works.

    • @2010ngojo
      @2010ngojo 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If you want mass adoption, ease of use is key. And then price is secondary. Bambu did both and now everyone else is play catch up. In the end, the winners are the consumers. I would totally get a large printer from bambu if they ever decide to offer one.

  • @BuuBuuSan
    @BuuBuuSan 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    "I'm not standing on the print bed, I'm standing on the edge. Get out of my DMs". Frank has the best quotes.

  • @DannyBob526
    @DannyBob526 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +77

    Dog is in the video 10/10

    • @Deviled_EG
      @Deviled_EG 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Love the hollow knight grub

    • @toxicculture4682
      @toxicculture4682 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      cargo shorts ….

    • @uiopuiop3472
      @uiopuiop3472 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ohio dog himselph at that.. mrs tusjak the program teacher stole my dog and is kis

  • @Bbittner5857
    @Bbittner5857 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Excellent review. I wasn’t a backer, because I didn’t really want to be a beta tester. There is value in both being and not being a beta tester. I don’t understand why they wouldn’t just engineer one large heated bed.

    • @clintstlaurent4263
      @clintstlaurent4263 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Probably because of heat bleed when using one bed for a smaller job. I'd bet most users won't be print SO big as to need all 4 beds at once, for the majority of jobs. If you're only heating bed 1 but have a steel plate extending to the other 3 cold beds its going to bleed heat out the adjoining side like mad and you'll loose adhesion on those edges.

    • @filipefarias3076
      @filipefarias3076 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@clintstlaurent4263never thought about that but it is true, even though I think the real reasons were costs and time to deliver

  • @thrrax
    @thrrax 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    3:20 And this is why they do these Kickstarters. No better testers than the public.

  • @ScottGarrettDrums
    @ScottGarrettDrums 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I'm loving the new attitude that tools should already work and not need to be modified in order to work properly. Hey, if you're the type who like to build printers... go build printers and be happy with the hobby how you want to participate in it.

  • @MajikPPMan
    @MajikPPMan 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Elagoo lost any credibility for me when they Kickstarted this. So happy I got a bambu instead. Now all bambu need to do is give us a P1P XL and life will be even better 😂

  • @SimonLomax-l8g
    @SimonLomax-l8g 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Very informative video which ive used in my decision making process on a large format printer. Thank you

  • @davedujour1
    @davedujour1 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    1) This is why backing Kickstarters of manufactured products is extremely risky.
    2) I agree that big companies shouldn't be kickstarting products. Consumers shouldn't be paying lots of money to be the R&D department. That is the manufacturers job.

  • @knowkontrolmusic
    @knowkontrolmusic 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    boy they are slaughtering you on the facebook. I appreciate that you are not just being a fan boy. Now I'm worried for when it arrives.

    • @FranklyBuilt
      @FranklyBuilt  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It’s just that one guy who can’t wrap his head around the points im making. Unless you mean another group?

    • @knowkontrolmusic
      @knowkontrolmusic 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@FranklyBuilt yeah the one you posted this vid in :/ i guess all points of view are invalid on the internet

  • @plussizeriderlifeshardbike9318
    @plussizeriderlifeshardbike9318 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Your blunt, straight to the point and your not blowing it up. Frank your awesome and you put this to the test and found some things that us the consumer need to know.so thank you 👍🏼😊

  • @tifauk
    @tifauk 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    "We are testing this printer."
    As soon as I saw this kick-started with the discounted rate, I knew this was a test to see what they could do with large scale.
    They're a big enough company to take a risk like that without a Kickstarter. It was guinea pig testing paid by the consumer...

  • @sunriseshell
    @sunriseshell 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Tech companies (Chinese ones especially) are famous for using early buyers as "beta testers who pay". They then iterate thier designs but not "officially" so the models don't have version numbers.

  • @bertmccumber4968
    @bertmccumber4968 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thanks for the honest review. I've noticed that most of the early testers are no longer posting videos of their challenges. It would have been nice if the testers could have gotten their machines before the kickstarter began. I was hesitant to pull the trigger, but I did and now I wish I had skipped this. If there was a way to cancel and get my money back I'd probably do it.

    • @kmcgraw65
      @kmcgraw65 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I did and feel the exact same way, I’m actually going to start trying to find a way to get a refund

    • @bertmccumber4968
      @bertmccumber4968 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      If you find a way, please share how you do it. I've been looking for a way also.

    • @filipefarias3076
      @filipefarias3076 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Talk to elegoo I saw them working on refund with some backers

    • @bertmccumber4968
      @bertmccumber4968 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I've sent a message to Elegoo. Let's see what happens. I'm glad Frank pointed out the fact that all four beads heat up even when only one is needed. If Prusa can do it why can't Elegoo? @@filipefarias3076

  • @garrettsmith4574
    @garrettsmith4574 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I just got my Kickstarter unit…. Can confirm, they didn’t change a thing 🤗🤦‍♂️

  • @MattMadeThings
    @MattMadeThings 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I DID RIP THAT CORD OFF OF MINE!!! and i told elagoo about it, and they replaced it all for free.. just in case you were wondering!!!

  • @randomnickify
    @randomnickify 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    A this point Kickstarter is basically a market research. Producers know whatever the device has a chance on the market before actually spending lots of money on the development. It will get worse for sure :)

  • @josephsmith601
    @josephsmith601 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    SUBSCRIBED!!! I Definitely wanted to buy one of these printers, but after seeing your video, it's obvious it needs more improvement. Thanks for telling the truth 👍👍👍🫡

  • @taltigolt
    @taltigolt 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    this is 4 printers from half a decade ago merged in one big frame

  • @MiladGolshan
    @MiladGolshan 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    finally, an honest review of elegoo

  • @ryanwalker1341
    @ryanwalker1341 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It's easy to get awe struck at the thought of all the cool stuff you could make with a printer of that size lol. I'm one of the few that kept my cr10-s5, I lost my shit on that thing a number of times but finally worked it out, and understandably, they quit making them I guess. But since figuring it out I've immensely enjoyed it. But when you're paying 2500 bucks for something the way money is during these times, it seems elegoo could have put more consideration into it.

  • @sukhoi25
    @sukhoi25 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I was really interested in this printer, almost backed it, but I live in an apartment so I figured it would eat up too much space. Holy crap.. bullet dodged. Thanks for this video

  • @mrd.808
    @mrd.808 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    ×2 playback speed is sweet for tight time. Good looking Deutsch Sheppard

  • @Ron-eg9kb
    @Ron-eg9kb 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The only printer brands that have worked well and keep working well over the 7 years ive been 3d printing is Prusa and Bambu lab. Owned over 11 different printers at this point all were just awful besides my MK2s and my bambu x1c. The prusa has had some minor issues since its very old at this point but nothing bad and the X1c has been near flawless besides a weird AMS issue that was fixed by unplugging the AMS power and plugging it back in and a nozzle clog.

  • @TheMNWolf
    @TheMNWolf 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I had a blowout on my Voron V4 running a Phaetus Dragon high flow hot end. That's what I would call impressive pressure.

  • @christopherbaez7282
    @christopherbaez7282 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thank you for your candor!👏🏼👏🏼 💯 I was going to get this but id rather just wait for a newer version.

  • @echo-hotel
    @echo-hotel 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I agree with you.
    But, I’m happy paying a bit for a base kit printer.
    I’ve built a couple large printers. Many people have.
    I backed this just so I can make it better. It’s fun it my hobby. I back a lot of projects and it’s a waste of money in a way. But there is always new ideas in the products that I didn’t consider before. So it doesn’t feel wasteful. It’s just fun.
    I could be eating $300 dinners every night and cramping out that money with nothing but a belt collection to show for it.
    I’m happy being a backer. I’ve never regretted any project in the many years I’ve been doing this. I don’t regret this one and never will.
    There is an interesting reason the Chinese are on kickstarter more and more. Talk to them and make a friend. You’ll find it highly interesting and very widespread.

  • @---ey6hj
    @---ey6hj 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I personally would’ve liked a printer like that to be the size of one of those print plates but the height of the giga storm, just to print one of those giant retractable swords. Or make a printer half the size and call it a Half Giga. Would be much easier to get out of room and you wouldn’t have to to take it apart to get it through the door

  • @LesFishingMoreCatching
    @LesFishingMoreCatching 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    At least you have it. I ordered it and hopefully get it soon.

    • @FranklyBuilt
      @FranklyBuilt  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Don’t hold your breathe lol

    • @Mike-ds4ht
      @Mike-ds4ht 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Expect it two to three months later than you expected it.
      Elegoo shipped the “Early Bird” round of printers (the April group) on the last day of April and said to expect 45-60 days for them to arrive in the local warehouses which would ship them to the backers.
      I’m in the “May” group and I’m guessing I won’t see mine till the end of July.

  • @theequalizer9154
    @theequalizer9154 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Frank, THANK YOU for that major heads-up.

  • @PolyWorkshop
    @PolyWorkshop 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Thanks for your feedback :) i have the printer as well and I may have been luckier than others. I got one head crash after replacing my filament and the latest firmware seems to have fixed the problem. Since then, I printed a huge mascot (visible in the fb group), the head was 12 kg of filament and it took a week to print. Then if it works, it works.
    I also agree with you with the cable management and other little things, or just the power switch being in the back. My powerful ups doesn't support the bed/nozzle heat up and goes in error. But at the end, it's a printer I really like. But it's not the typical printer and probably not for beginners.
    For me, its real downside is the flow which is limited to around 30mm3/s... with the 1mm nozzle, you have to print quite slowly.... i hope for some upgrade to have a higher flow to take benefit of the speed it could provide.

  • @JoshuaHaasua
    @JoshuaHaasua 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Too late. Mine arrives next month. Now we need to pray the community can fix all this...

  • @super3dtok
    @super3dtok 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Couldn’t agree more. Just because we can mod it doesn’t mean we should need to. Sounds like a load of issues that @Elegoo should have resolved before it left the warehouse.

  • @speedy3d524
    @speedy3d524 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thanks for the info and I do hope Elegoo will fix it

  • @bogatyr2473
    @bogatyr2473 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love the willingness of the community to create their own solutions to things but you are 100% right, we shouldn't have to fix obvious problems in expensive machines. We're not back in the day with new homemade printers. These are new, commodity, printers working with established technology. They should just work out of the box, end of story.

  • @DrLesterTheSmith
    @DrLesterTheSmith 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I wonder if an enclosure would help with some issues. If so, those’ll be some big panels! Plus, you can place the spool holder on top of the top panel.

  • @siedliko
    @siedliko 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Add a Bowden tube after the run-out sensor.

  • @HeyitsmeEarl
    @HeyitsmeEarl 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I backed this to make LW-pla glider wings easier than having to do fitting dowels and print 15 piece wings and glue it all together, but I'm having a lot of buyers remorse seeing videos like this and getting the feeling they didn't test a damn thing :/

  • @parker73724
    @parker73724 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    While I do think the wifi plug is a pretty unfair complaint (they aren't really made for large power draw), I do agree that this printer wastes a massive amount of energy by not having some sort of enclosure. In my opinion, this product should have came with some sort of wall or enclosure, any additional cost would be well worth what you save in electricity.

  • @KolMan2000
    @KolMan2000 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    The printer had no need to be a kickstarter when you’re talking about a company like Elegoo. This isn’t some whatever startup company making their first product. This is a company that is generally well regarded for their FDM printers and VERY respected for resin printers. Just if the thing had $3 MILLION of backing they really should have delivered a more capable product that doesn’t reek of being under engineered. I think my biggest gripe is how poorly the toolhead is designed. It didn’t need a super volcano clone, it could have gotten significantly more flow just using a normal volcano with a melt zone extender which would give the option to customers to use a CHT nozzle.

  • @RAM-1976
    @RAM-1976 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    After that much backing on kickstarter they should be fixing the faults and anyone who has one should be getting all the fixes for free to sort the issues. Great review, nice to see someone who is totally honest about a product.

  • @theVariedLife
    @theVariedLife 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have an electronics background to some degree and was excited about the giga. However seeing the same things bothered me too. The biggest red flag for me was the 4 build plates thrown together. I knew that would cause problems. I understand making a full sized single plate would be costly but if you want this size of a printer, you would want and pay for that. Its like when it came time to discuss the build plate they ran out of time and money and just said "Just put 4 plates together..." Not good. The amount of difference in the print you showed was straight up ugly. That in itself would be the one thing that would stop me from buying this. Then again I never buy the first run of anything - I always wait till its been used and reviewed so thanks for the review and your thoughts.

  • @RuthlessMojo
    @RuthlessMojo 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ivan Miranda made a huge scale 3D printer and his worked great. It had a sheet of aluminium as the base plate and used four silicone heating mats attached underneath for base plate heating.

  • @RoseKindred
    @RoseKindred 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I agree with you about the CF/KS. Established companies shouldn't do CF-ing but there is no stopping them. It has become a nu-store, where all the risk is on us and large companies don't even have to actually deliver a quality product, and many don't. Some large companies run 3-5 CF a year.
    The board game industry is even worse than tech there.

  • @u2cantsee
    @u2cantsee 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Excellent looking printer except for all the little quirks that should have been resolved. The control panel should have been wireless in my opinion. Thanks for the great review. Keep it coming.

  • @carajean206
    @carajean206 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The heat saturation issue and bed leveling is a known thing across their line at least the neptune 4 and beyond. You gotta heat soak that bed for everything you want to do. Get that down and makes it easier.

  • @Skott62
    @Skott62 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video Frank. I saw a video recently someone did where they were talking to the Elgoo developer and they plan on making an entire Storm line and they do have plans to make a smaller model of the Giga. I'm guessing one about half the size. It would make more sense to me anyway. Anyway I expected more from Elgoo. They had been doing so good as a manufacturer and then they make this huge failure. Let's hope they fix the Giga and make better models in the Storm line that they may have planned.

  • @WF3D
    @WF3D 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think the free R&D is the biggest point which you pointed out. For the company its free, the community has to pay the price here. And that is sad..

  • @viyer00
    @viyer00 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Love your giga videos, it's how I found your channel. Would love to see more to see if you can get this printer working well.

  • @ItsMeLuke69
    @ItsMeLuke69 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    We shouldn't have to fix such an expensive printer. At $2500 QC needs to be done.

  • @KurayamiWinter
    @KurayamiWinter 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Make a Baymax xD
    But yeah, the two things that griped me was the number of plates and they maybe could had a bar going on the top in the center to hold the rolls?

  • @pirate2998
    @pirate2998 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Value wise you get a huge value for a small price.. I like to buy creality products cuz I know few upgrades and I get great printer for few bucks..

  • @BeefIngot
    @BeefIngot 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I feel like the Ratrig Vcore4 idex is the next exciting large format printer. 500mm cube is not as big but probably big enough for most and fits through doors.

  • @tanisll13
    @tanisll13 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I think everyone has some form of that blanket in the window. a grey plush blanket, probably from Walmart. hahaha. Love you videos as always Frank!

  • @GameUpOG
    @GameUpOG 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    In general I agree big companies shouldn't do kick starters. I do wonder though if it's done to keep investors out though. Most big companies still have investors to help create new products. On top of that they are big companies in 3D printing but that's not a super larger market, but it is growing larger year over year. I'd be curios if a Kickstarter was actually needed for these reason or just to not cut into profits with manufacturing.

  • @Yadiii7
    @Yadiii7 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Next try. Please an Ironman Video:(

  • @vdubpowered
    @vdubpowered 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    A single print plate would be nice. I agree that the USB/screen plugs needs moved as well as the spool mount and sensor

  • @joemoe5619
    @joemoe5619 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    atleast you can do print in place stuff. ive had my pulse xe for 7 years now and still havnt had a successful print in place go right 100%. also it would take about 6 hours to print that vase on my printer at 1/10 the size. AND I PAID $1500. i know things in the 3d printer space have gotten a bit cheaper but from your results id be happy and its way bigger so yeah not a bad deal for what you paid imo. now it could just be my skill level with my issues with my printer, but ive sent it back for them to "fix" did everything i could possibly do to get good prints but noting seems to ever work. i never should have gone with a clone, but i cant bring myself to get a new printer because the tech is still not there imo. i want it to just work, I'm not gona spend thousands on something i have to tinker and do R&D with every single time, they should be paying all of us for that not the other way around. hoping the mimaki tech becomes more common place and cheaper in the coming years, thats what i envisioned when i first heard of 3d printing but starting at $50k nope. maybe if i was actually good and could produce and make money but i suck lol.

  • @tomasgarcia5545
    @tomasgarcia5545 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you for the review on it. I wanted to get one, but I wasn't too sure about it because it was new to the scene. im glad I waited. Thank you for the honesty on it.

  • @MrBaskins2010
    @MrBaskins2010 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    elegoo's FDM track record is spotty at best

  • @Rob_65
    @Rob_65 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The bed not being a one piece sheet ... I kind of like this. Now that bigger printers become more common, large sheets are affordable - still not cheap though. A special extra large sheet for this printer would be extremely expensive and it sucks to replace that large of a sheet if you crashed the nozzle in one corner.
    But when I saw the first announcement of this printer it already was clear to me there are a lot of things that need to be improved. The inductive bed sensor is an issue that is know for years, not having a proper filament guide or spool mount (are there still printers being sold with the spool holder at the rear ???) .

  • @sigma682
    @sigma682 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    They’re still fulfilling kickstarter backers orders till Aug, so it’s going to be quite some time before anyone will be able to buy one.
    I’m hoping with the additional time and the higher cost, the printer will be a better product.

  • @ali-sleimanchehade6129
    @ali-sleimanchehade6129 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Honestly for a printer pf that size you should start making car body kit or molds for car body kit! If you can build an enclosure that can heat up to use ABS or ASA dude go for it! I wish there was a 3D printer specially made for body kit!

  • @JeffSelck
    @JeffSelck 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Love the ability to print large stuff however those vases are so thin.. won't last

  • @onealja61
    @onealja61 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I backed the Jupiter and they did the same thing. We payed to test it and then all the promises they made they told us tough luck. It was not modular and all the upgrades that were promised were ignored. They released the Jupiter SE and now ignore all the backer. Good times

  • @lightmeupsigns5363
    @lightmeupsigns5363 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I dont think the feed to the extruder would be to bigger thing to get right Sure the consumer shouldn't have to do this but the build volume is amazing wow wow wow

  • @SADNESSOFHUMANITY
    @SADNESSOFHUMANITY 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I have regrets, and I have yet to get my printer!

  • @rjtopper68
    @rjtopper68 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love how the spool of filament looks so tiny on the top of the printer.

  • @boredfish80
    @boredfish80 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I like Elegoo. Truly. I’ve had some robot kits, electronic kits, etc and they’re awesome, generally well documented etc. But they’re unmistakably cheap parts. The kits from early versions haven’t evolved, other than perhaps lumping a camera on top. Is this a problem? Not really - a robot like this is no more advanced now than it was 5 or 10 years ago. The parts work, and work well generally. Great for learning!
    3D printers though are a whole new level. I have a Bambu P1S that’s been awesome but you can tell with some prints (even from something as good as this model) that it’s a fine line between great and absolute mess.
    So in that regard, I’d not even consider going anywhere near “Jack-of-all-trades/STEM” companies until there’s been a half decent track record of release, quality and community.
    Kickstarter was great in the early days for some “I’ve an amazing idea but have no cash” hobbyists/startups.
    Have I bought bucketloads of stuff from Elegoo? Yeah. Would I again? Yes!! Would I consider a 3D printer or anything generally costing 3 digits or more from them? Nope!

  • @nickpepper4592
    @nickpepper4592 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very accurate points and definitely correct it should be caught in internal testing not using customers as unpaid testers.

  • @drstefankrank
    @drstefankrank 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The only print bed suitable would be one giant one and using load cell bed levelling. No manual adjusting. They could offer smaller plates, but designed for smaller pieces that won't span across multiple plates. The filament mounting should be at the front top and use a reverse bowden for guiding.

  • @Epyon757
    @Epyon757 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As Neptune’s first core xy printer I think they should’ve made something more manageable first. Something the size of the 3 pro or max would’ve been perfect and then make this giant thing. A smaller printer would make them competitive with the other companies.

  • @mx3goose
    @mx3goose 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This thing is a magnification of everything that was wrong with the Max.

  • @dcold
    @dcold 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Orange Storm Stinky: that's what I have been saying.

  • @stevencullen6261
    @stevencullen6261 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Honestly instead of going straight into reviews i can understand having a 3rd party testing and a kind of review on my mark kind of thing

  • @patrinicorevelations9738
    @patrinicorevelations9738 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Hey, I've been looking for a pull-up bar to spend thousands of dollars on. This one just so happens to 3d print things. Don't tell me how to spend my money 😂

    • @FranklyBuilt
      @FranklyBuilt  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Wanna get fit? Buy the orange storm! Pull-ups! Dips! You can tire flip the boxes! And you’ll get a good ab workout leaning over it to level it for 2 hours!

  • @shawnhicks619
    @shawnhicks619 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have a lot of feeling about the current crop, and state of 3D printing. In some ways it’s a really good time for the hobby. Like it or not Bambu really did spur more innovation from an inarguably stagnant development period. In other ways due to public demand a lot of corners are being cut and the end users are still the ones carrying the weight of testing and development.
    I understand it’s not easy to just make a printer, but I do agree that having the end users doing testing and development is a lazy way of development, especially at the prices. I think companies will get better at varying levels, with some being better then others.
    The largest issue I currently have is manufacturers resistance to producing a quality large format fdm printer. Yes you can build a voron or rat rig, but there is a bit of skill and user knowledge involved in not just building the printer but it’s not seamless in slicing and running. And currently you can’t even buy a rat rig 500mm because the v3 is discontinued and out of stock and the v4 has a wait list. I was ready to pull the trigger on a v3.1 only to find it’s unavailable. So I bought one second hand, which is great because it’s already assembled, but bad because the seller gave me near no information on what is in the build, how to use the thing in its current configuration or even how to interface or log it into my WiFi. I’m sure I can figure this out but it would have been nice to have known a little of that information given I have 0 experience with that machine or the interface involved. Do I regret buying it? Not yet no but I’ll have a better idea in a week or so.
    But a printer like the orange storm giga should have been ready to go out of the box, and had minimal issues to begin with. It’s obvious that some of the decisions were made with cost, keeping them low, we’re key development factors. Use had nearly zero forethought. Honestly I’d have been pissed to spend 2500 bucks on a printer I have to severely modify to be remotely useable given the build volume.
    The bed and leveling situation deserves every criticism and then some that it’s getting. I have no issue with the bed being fixed at the bottom of the printer, what I do have issue with are the leveling and it’s procedure, the 4 independant pei sheets (there should be options to eliminate having 4) numerous independent “standard” power supplies and the standard control or lack there of of each independent zone.
    However I am sure that most of the complaints were decisions made to keep costs low utilizing already readily available parts and removing the need for more expensive power supplies and extensive coding and the need to do thousands of hours of testing to make a reliable “new” system.
    I also think that manufacturers are discounting how in demand large format printers are and couple that with the fact that smaller printers are easier to make, ship and more of them sell.
    I give kudos to elegoo for at least trying which is more then I can say for prusa and as much as it pains me to say Bambu.
    Bambus current stance if somewhat confusing as their outright dismissal without explanation of upsizing the x1 and p1 series to anything larger then 256 cubed is just dumb. It’s pushing people to inferior products and reducing their market share of off the shelf plug and play printers. I have little issue with the A series with the exception of how they have handled the recall and associated customer support and how they have kept customers updated. They currently are enjoying a nice fat black eye for that one, and deservedly so.
    Prusas stance doesn’t surprise me because it’s more of the same we’ve gotten from them for ever. Yes they make a reliable workhorse. But it’s expensive, slow, and limited in size. I get the feeling they don’t want you to print in larger then what size they offer and at the speeds they deem are sufficient. They were the kings for a long time and got comfortable. Now we are in an era where there could be a new king every week. Unless and until prusa starts to offer what the community wants they will enjoy reductions in sales until they become irrelevant.
    I wish I could say that I’m surprised with the issues the Orange giga is having, but I’ve always felt like Elegoo’s strong suit were their resin printers. Personally I love my v1 Jupiter resin printers more then any other resin printer I currently have. And with it being discontinued for the in my opinion step backwards replacement Jupiter resin printer I look for second hand Jupiter printers. Unless and until they move away from a removable lid I’ll look elsewhere. Printers that size should have resin lids that are hinged in some way.
    Good luck with your orange storm giga Frank. I’m sure you’ll make some amazing things with it while it still works. But the issues you’ve had coupled with the other reviews has prevented me from considering it.

  • @xmavrekx8663
    @xmavrekx8663 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great review but the highlight was the announcement of your life-size Danny DeVito 😂

  • @onikiristudios
    @onikiristudios 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I backed the giga and this video is honestly giving me anxiety, but appreciate the honest feedback on your part

  • @notchipotle
    @notchipotle 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    we need a 10kg roll for that one

  • @georg3_yt555
    @georg3_yt555 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Scedadle sceduche Scalalalalakuhaggaa 5:26

    • @FranklyBuilt
      @FranklyBuilt  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I’m glad I left that. And I’m so glad you spelled it out for me hahaha

  • @danny3man
    @danny3man 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    3:40 Yeah like the game industry, YOU are now paying to test their products, not the other way around.

  • @tommygamba170
    @tommygamba170 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Glad to see you still going!

  • @thespacecowboy420
    @thespacecowboy420 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The instant that I saw how the bed was done nope nope nope

  • @TERMICOBRA
    @TERMICOBRA 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I appreciate the critique but I really don't see any deal breakers. Things like updating the firmware, leveling, and changing the spool angle are super easy.

  • @Mathewadventure
    @Mathewadventure 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Frankly built is like an icon the the 3d printing community, he explains stuff so good like HOWW?!

  • @kookiequest3194
    @kookiequest3194 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    There will come the day when we can print full iron man suits. I have spoken

  • @ANano64
    @ANano64 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Since I haven't seen anyone mention this in the comments yet. Elegoo has listed it on their website, with the price now set at 9,999 USD. Now they indicate this price is not final, but I think it is fair to say that it will be somewhere near that price (why else would they publically list it at that otherwise). As well elegoo themselves mentioned that production was a mess on this machine and they seem to have lost money on the kickstarter units. It really seems like their design team built something and put it into production without really knowing the issues with scaling up a printer to these sizes.

    • @grasstreefarmer
      @grasstreefarmer 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      The $9999 pricing is something lots of Chinese websites do when they have products listed that aren't yet for sale. Don't read anything into it.

  • @motarded4214
    @motarded4214 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Seems like a single piece glass bed would be fire