I believe there is something that needs to be said. And a first offense let him keep the win but give a warning or if AMA wants to be harsh fine the team but no points. Your thought? O and WFO the subscriber button!!!
@@justinhughett9828 He had one mechanic, the other dude was Hunter´s mechanic, there´s no rule on helping another rider, that´s why you can see gas gas guys helping deano with his holeshot device and a bunch of other dudes have 2 guys with them if something goes to crap, it´s just some friendly competition, you see Redbull mechanics help cool Aston martin brakes, so what.
@@macedhx so 1+1 is 2. And it absolutely says no outside help. He actually was supposed to pull the bike off the line to do anything to it.gonread the rule book, there's about 5 or 6 other things they can get him on too.its just a question of are then going to
Those 2 guys fighting over Jett's goggles during his burnout was disgusting. They stole those goggles from some kid who should've gotten them. Full grown men shouldn't be idolizing other men and acting like that in public. They're just goggles! Act like a man, contain your liquor, and let Jett give them to a kid who has every right to idolize him
@@Johnny_Hopper I just rewatched it and they didn't ask. The first guy wasn't even close enough to ask and he didn't even congrat him. They just started grabbing and fighting over them like animals. It was even worse to watch the second and third time
The AMA and Feld should be fined for allowing spectators to storm the track before the race was over. Anderson actually hit a woman with his bike trying to finish the race.
That was crazy if they allowed that I wasn't there I'm not sure what was said but ya fans on the track when there were riders still finishing up is crazy. And those guys ripping Jetts goggles off 😂 holy shit I thought Red Bud was crazy
I don't think there was any "allowing". The fans were in the trackside access section and there were simple waist high metal gates separating them from the track, like you would see at a parade or similar. When that big crowd pushed the gates over and started running, there was no where near enough security to stop them. I watched the mains from the stands, and when we walked down to the track after the races, the gates were still laying flat on the ground, we had to jump over them (spectators are allowed on the track briefly after the races).
@@glennmyers3580 there were thousands of people there trackside, it would have taken an army. The shame is how badly behaved people are becoming, it's going to ruin things for the rest of us. I've been there many times and the gates have been the same for years, never more required. There were the usual drunks but the weed was everywhere, it was hard to get a breath of fresh air and it's my belief these things contributed to the crowds bad behavior. I'm so sick of addicts..
He's the guy that Jett threw a 2-year-olds tantrum over because he couldn't pass him and then flipped him off and grabbed his helmet. Thats the reason Jett was being booed for a few races. I'm sure you remember now. 🤣 @@st25at
I’m not really a deegan fan but when they asked him about his crash he said “I’m fine I just feel like I got my buttcheeks ripped apart” then he walks away and ends the interview. That was hilarious
We should talk about the people rushing the track WHILE there still people finishing the race. You saw Anderson and AP both still trying to finishing the race while people where all over the track
That crowd was so drunk and high, it was ridiculous, that probably factored into the decision to jump the gates early. I was there and the non stop smell of weed was disgusting, and of course the drunks were out. Some drunk behind us fell down the stairs and his beer can hit my wife in the head and covered her with beer. It's getting to the point that we can't go anywhere in public without dealing with the addicts.
@@8180634bro chill, weed is legal and not that harmful compared to alcohol. It’s not that deep. I get it, you’re one of those old heads who thinks weed is so bad but you’re acting like a Karen w your comment
And Americans were laughing at us Australians for having a phone number to report anti social behaviour at stadiums. This is exactly what it's aimed at
The rules should always be strictly enforced. If we constantly make exceptions to the rules the line between what is legal or illegal is blurred. If the rules seem to harsh the teams can ask the AMA to change them in the future.
Ok strictly enforce the rules and every rider who has had 2 mechanics help with there hole shot devices gets a DQ now we see that every week too. Dose Deegan now loose his win for the Ghost ride because a writen warning isn't enforcing that rule. Any excuse we now look for to strip Jett of a win every time he races sour grapes much fuck me........
Who the heck is Johnny Hopper? No idea. I simply appreciate that somebody his level of pure SX MX speed (may even still have his USA Pro License (no idea because he’s always pin-pointing things that, in my 50 years of racing MX, I would never see or even think of.). There are a lot of channels with S/MX riders, fans, and pundits my age but nobody breaks it down like Hopper. Support this guy. The absence of hype is a great time saver. All signal/no static. Thanks Johnny. -DC
I have to agree, the possibility of serious injury here where a mechanic has his hand on/in the rear wheel whilst a rider is ready to take off is so close to something fatal!
Once the all clear is given at the start all mechanics are required to vacate the starting area (usually around the 30 second board going up). Also one mechanic per rider on the starting gate. Jett had two
The other guy barely touched his bike he went in and then was told to puss off, didn’t help one but, what about anstie? Did the same happen with him working to get the bike going? Don’t see you whinging about him? You guys will whinge about anything. If anything jett was at a disadvantage and still had a better start then them, coming into the corner first before going a bit wide and losing a few positions.
@Upthebroncos310 you don't see anything wrong with what went on here? It was a clear violation of the rules, yet as a Jett fan you won't look at any faults and just feel the need to praise him.
@@thebros-br3to jett had 1 mechanic at the starting gate, the other was hunters, secondly he wasn’t repairing the bike at the gate he was removing a tire cover. I don’t see anything wrong with it, I think they were stupid for doing it, they should of learnt from anstie in the previous race who almost missed the start.
I don’t know, no harm no foul. Jett fans will say no and Jett haters will say yes. I think ap and tomac were focus and it didn’t bother them, but you have to ask them. Let it be
Rules are rules. If you don't enforce them all, how do you enforce any? Any chance of finding out if a protest has been filed? I think the race was great and probably no chance that this had anything to do with it, but they broke the rules. Interesting to see if it is addressed. They loaded the bike into the gate then made changes to it, pretty clear infraction.
There were no rules broken. Johnny is just stirring up drama for clicks. All the mechanic did was engage the holeshot device and remove the tire warmer late. Everyone's mechanic bumps into the other riders. the difference is they're usually not doing it 3 seconds before the gate drops. They weren't working on the bike because there were no tools involved. Only one crew member touched the bike.
@@loneventhorizon no he’s not stirring up drama if you read the ama rule book which johnny goes into, honda/jett broke a rule and should be penalized for it but he probably won’t be because you know he’s #feldsbabyboy
@doglover136_ I have read the rule book and spoken about it many times including all the passages Johnny went over. Section 1.8.8 b,2 "Each Rider may have only one crew member accompany them to the Starting Gate. No other crew members are permitted at the Starting Gate." Jett had one and Hunter had one. Christien Ducharme - Race Mechanic, Jett Lawrence Cameron Camera - Race Mechanic, Hunter Lawrence There is no mention of tire warmers in the rule book. Engaging the holeshot device and removing tire warmers is not working on the bike. There were no tools involved. Ferrandis had 2 crew phoenix racing honda crew members attending to him, and he's the only 450 guy for their team. Section 1.8.10 a,2 "In the event a Rider needs to make repairs once loaded in the starting gate, the motorcycle must be pushed back from the gate to behind the rear restraint before any repairs can be made, so as not to interfere with other competitors." - This is where it was on the stand behind the gate.
I agree with you on Tomac getting pissed after getting passed you could see the way he was riding was really aggressive right after getting passed and the bike started smoking.
Let's just say that instead of Jett "Supersonic" Lawrence this was Jason "Excuse Me" Anderson. There would have been a Fine, Disqualification, and Penalty.
They changed his rear tire...a Repair....the tire cover should have been removed " Before " pushing up to gate....they should have made him move his bike back from Gate....and a " second " mechanic is an infraction.... even if he stood there...i believe he also assisted in the Tire change?? Not against Jett..but? Rules Matter.here.... they didn't do anything to deal with it...before during and After the Race....nothing???
If the AMA doesn’t address the obvious infractions by Honda, they lose all credibility and will further erode trust in their justice system. You made some stellar observations and factually pointed out the AMA can only rely on their reserved right to enforce what hasn’t been covered in the penalty phase.
... that's part of the problem with motocross, that the simplicity is gone and the strain of cost has mounted. Motocross doesn't need all this gimmickry. KISS - Keep It Simple, Stupid.@@brandon_doe
@@1969cmpfunny how they messed them up at SanFrancisco going into first corner with no front suspension now metal grates it’s too much people say moto go has way to much technology ruining it too
Don't penalize the kid, penalize the team and mechanics for such a stupid move. Wasnt Jett's fault. I know Johnny hates Jett as much as he likes Electric bikes LOL. The kid went out there and put on a show.
@@brandon_doe No, I'm saying fine the team and mechanics with a big fine, it's not the riders fault what happened. A big fine should curve this from happening again.
I would think if they bumped AP's handlebar that would definitely be distracting that was really close to the gate drop if AMA hasn't done anything yet they probably won't.
@@AaMabove yeah but let's say he was already adjusted and gloves pulled/strapped how he wanted and he was completely set then that happened and threw him off then maybe he would've reacted. But like Johnny said it's in the rule book for a reason and could certainly argue the fact
if that wasnt a top 5 rider then the AMA official in the blue shirt wouldve pulled them off the line. Rules are rules and theres a reason the Daytona penalty report hasnt been released yet.
Let’s imagine for a moment that every rider on the gate each had two team members working on their bikes, bumping into other riders. That would be more than 40 crew members and 20+ riders all on the gate 30 seconds before the gate drops. I don’t think the AMA would allow that, so was is it allowed without penalty for one rider? Seems like some special accommodation.
When Jett got past Eli & Chase, Eli tried to respond & almost got past Chase that's when he got angry because Jett was getting away & his bike started smoking
As per the rule book, there was interference with other riders. But with that said, the AMA will do nothing because Jett is their golden boy. However, if it was Anderson or Barcia they would have filed criminal charges. Talk about discrimination against certain riders. The bike should have been pulled back from the starting gate .
If the shoe was on the other foot and Yamaha mechanics were in there at 9 (?) seconds to go bumping into Jet Lawrence, Honda would be screaming. Where's the AMA?
Once Eli started doing that quad he was putting in faster lap times 1Eli 2Jett 3Jett 4Eli 5Jett *6Jett* fastest lap 7Jett 8Jett 9Jett 10Jett 11Eli 12Eli 13Eli 14Eli
Everyone's bars get bumped on the starting line from mechanics moving from the front of their respective bike to the back so penalising one penalise all in that case, did they cut it fine yes but they did miss engaging the whole shot button 3 times so it was finer than it needed to be for sure. This is a storm in a tea cup for all the Jett haters to get on board because he smoked Tomac at Deytona let's be honest because not once have we heard people yelling about 2 mechanics touching a bike until this round and yet we see every weekend 2 mechanics helping to engage a holeshot device. The only guy to be disadvantaged here was Lawrance he was the only one not set 100% in his starting posture or position and he would have felt that rear tire cover being removed, no its a totally diffrent story if the mechanic was hitting the other bikes, there is really nothing in this warning first offence and a fine ...... haters got to hate I guess.
@@Sh1tstirkid has earned the "hate" as you call it. His post race tantrum at Anderson was to much for some. I get it. He's still young, with a long future ahead.
@roddas26 earned it how exactly because him and Ando getting into it isn't hate worthy, and it was media inspired........ the only shots Ando has fired this year, was a pretty average and petty instagram come back...... thought he was supposed to be the adult in that situation. He doesn't clean people out and don't even trip on the Faukner crash that was an unfortunate racing incident.... I'm just not sure how he actually earned the hate, outside of the media twisting his words to suit a narrative they want to write about to create conflict and content........ To be fair Deegan is far far far more disrespectful to his competitors than Lawrance has ever been..... Yet Deegan talks the talk but as yet has failed to walk the walk and you all got a hard on for him because the media is pumping up his tyres because once again, he is content and as long as he's content its acceptable.
Two mechanics distracting the surrounding riders, who are all in the championship hunt, seconds before the gate drop, is definitely grounds for some action taken against team Honda. I knew this was trouble when I saw them opting for a tire change after the hot lap.
I would consider this a repair to the motorcycle. Weren’t they changing Jett’s rear tire after the parade lap prior to the gate drop? In regards to removing the tire cover it is all apart of the repair process
Although I know what you are trying to say at 11:30, a heavier object does not fall faster due to gravity. Drop a 10lb and 30lb dumbbell from your roof, they hit the ground at the same time.
Wow now if Tomac was to do the quad after he was passed by Jett he would have easily got by Sexton too but he waited until the final 2 mins of the race to do it ........ sorry champ that's on Tomac not Sexton.
@user-ve6nw4jk7m that's a Sexton problem not a Lawrance problem but if your man Tomac was up for it the he should have changed lines earlier but it's always someone else fault isn't it there's always a reason why every other rider couldn't beat Jett but you still haven't figured out that maybe he's just too good........ No one held Tomac up when Jett rode around and away from him at Glendale what was the excuse there ......
If it was another rider they would get penalized. AMA and Feld are catering to Jett all for the money. They have been doing little stuff like this to help him win the Championship.
Hey Johnny, love your videos but regarding physics 😂 a heavier bike doesn't fall faster towards the ground, but it DOES accelerate slower with a given amount of throttle 👍 I actually talk about the physics of riding technique on my channel a lot ✅️😁🏆🏁 keep it WFO ❤
BTW I studied Nano Science, including physics etc. And I also make videos about the potential future technologies of motocross like this one th-cam.com/video/qsEEOYD5EIw/w-d-xo.htmlsi=oyfxaGbajENMvScl
I want tomac to win it all but would hate to see someone lose a championship over something like that. Whoever the best this season is should win. But rules are rules to so I’d understand it if it happend
11:20 I have to point out something that I just can't not comment about. The acceleration due to gravity has NOTHING TO DO WITH AN OBJECTS MASS. Yes, as the weight increases the the force of gravity increases, but the reason they need to go faster as the mud builds up and the ruts deepen is because the lip of the jump gets lower. This changes the Range equation angle (R=V^2*sin2∆/g). As ∆ decreases the R decreases. The only way for R (range, length of jump) to be maintained is to by increasing V (velocity) on takeoff. g for Gravity is a constant acceleration and the mud does not impact it whatsoever. g is the same for all objects regardless of mass. Its all about the angle decreasing as the ruts get deeper. Ok that's what I came to say. Really great video otherwise Johnny.
Enforce the rules as they are written across the board. Repairs on gate, interfering with other rider, did not roll bike back to work on the bike, two mechanics instead of one.
Red cross flag means you can not jump the yellow means hazard ahead you can still jump and pass etc with caution marshalls stand on track and wave people around the hazard.
It's Jett so AMA won't do anything. It seemed like they gave him extra time before starting the 30 second board also. The rules are pretty clear so how could they not penalize him.
Jett should not have been allowed to start the race. His bike was not ready to race when it was pushed up to the gate. And, there were two guys at the gate working on the bike after the 30 second board was up. Automatic DQ. The rules are clearly stated. Ask Jeff Ward about what happens when your bike is at the gate and you need to do something to it.
4:56 I love it. It should be a warning and a fine. Coz it's not actually written in the rules. Then that means he hasn't broken a rule. To brake a rule it must be definitive otherwise it won't hold. Is removing a tyre blanket a repair? Prob not. Jett was occumpanied by 1 person to the gate and hunters help. Is that against the rules. No.
Exactly, everyone making a big fuzz about it but is not in the freaking rulebook. At most Ama can change this for next year, it´s always been like this, every team exploit the rules to their advantage and then the organization modify the rules to avoid any bs. See F1 and stop trying to find every effing detail, let the riding do the talk
Its more of a Jett smoked Tomac in Tomacs house we need to find any excuse or reason to strip the win becuase this can't happen its no possible it's Tomacs house....... just another media beat up. Every rider gets there bars knocked after a mechanic moves from front to back after engaging hole shot device and there was such a huge reaction from A.P I thought he was going to fall off his bike 😂😂😂😂 and the tyre cover wow the only one it affected was Jett so a huge disadvantage to Tomac and AP oh thats right they didn't even flinch.......😂😂😂
Hate to say it because I like the kid but Jett should be docked a position or two for that, distracting your opponents that are in the championship and keeping the tire warmer on to the last second is a clear advantage.
The rules need to be clarified for the holeshot device… Absolutely no setting it after 30 second board! Not a Jet hater, but factory teams shouldn’t be fussing around in the gate, paid professionals are last second, guess the rider needs to start without it… no touching bikes or riders after 30 second card and figure out the penalty… and Yes its a team so the rider deserves the penalty
Jonnie there is a behind the riders with a camera view the 2nd guy is Grabbed by the ama official, BUT HES ACTUALLY THE ONE THAT GOT THE TIRE WARMER OFF. SO THAT 2 People working on the bike within 5 seconds of the gate drop, its a FUCMING 1 LAP PENALTY , PERIOD , OR IF THE AMA Wants to go buy the rule book a total Disqualification, but its up to there desression on the penalty , so of there being NICE ITS A 1 LAP PENALTY. BUT DEFFINALTLY A PENALTY , OF AT LEAST 1 LAP !!!! OR EVEN A DIS Q PER THE AMA 2024 RUKES BOOK ,
“Rules for thee but not for me” he’s the golden child so of course they don’t give him any warning or penalties even if rules have clearly been broken. We have rules for a reason so either enforce them no matter the rider or don’t.
I do not agree with radios. The rider has to think on his own. Radios would take that away. Think about it. "Block the inside Degan is coming in hot." or " You need to start hitting the quad." If the racer can't see that it on his own it's chaeating.
Title 24 podcast spoke with AMA who said no rules were broken. This isnt classed as a repair as it would of been taken off at the gate anyway. they also asked other riders and teams about the incident and asked riders around him if they were distrupted... unsure on the nswers but from what the title 24 guys said, there wont be any fines or points taken away. "but jett had 2 mechanics" no jett had 1 mechanic, i assume the other may of been hunters mechanic.... "but that means he had 2 mechanics touching his bike"... well you see all the time mechnics heling riders engage the holeshot device... No rules broken BUT its worthy of a discussion... what if jett thought his mechanic had his hands out the way and he didnt and jeet took off on gate drop... it was a dangerous situation... how do you stop it from happening again? i dunno, ban tyre changes on the grid??
Dumb move. Skip the parade lap. Talk to the 250 guys for track info. Youre telling me they cant just use a brush or something to get the majority of the mud off? Im a Honda fanboy but rules are rules. As a Team, Honda had no choice once they started down that path. They take their chance, try to win the race on TV and in front of the fans. Deal with penalties later.
Nothing will happen to the "Golden Child"...he's the Kelce/Swift of moto. And the fans rushing the track was awful. I'd be so pissed if I was trying to finish my race...never mind liability.
No one saw the crash at the end of the 250 main over the tunnel jump. Be the first to report on it. Heard it was Lorenzo Locurcio. taken off in the ambulance.
It is driving me nuts that i cant find the attendance numbers for daytona, they talked about it being the most attended ever multiple times but they never tell you what it was! 😂
I believe there is something that needs to be said. And a first offense let him keep the win but give a warning or if AMA wants to be harsh fine the team but no points. Your thought? O and WFO the subscriber button!!!
It's not the cover, it's having 2 people with him while stages, ama rule says 1 person on line with rider.i said this ascd soon as I seen it
@@justinhughett9828 He had one mechanic, the other dude was Hunter´s mechanic, there´s no rule on helping another rider, that´s why you can see gas gas guys helping deano with his holeshot device and a bunch of other dudes have 2 guys with them if something goes to crap, it´s just some friendly competition, you see Redbull mechanics help cool Aston martin brakes, so what.
@@macedhx so 1+1 is 2. And it absolutely says no outside help. He actually was supposed to pull the bike off the line to do anything to it.gonread the rule book, there's about 5 or 6 other things they can get him on too.its just a question of are then going to
@@justinhughett9828 Fine, then penalize Deano and Ferrandis aswell
@@macedhx they should, everyone else gets fined and docked for far less
Those 2 guys fighting over Jett's goggles during his burnout was disgusting. They stole those goggles from some kid who should've gotten them. Full grown men shouldn't be idolizing other men and acting like that in public. They're just goggles! Act like a man, contain your liquor, and let Jett give them to a kid who has every right to idolize him
I like they did ask Jett if they could grab them but yes it got out of hand
Looks Ike it broke ap's concentration
@@kelvinkrisen8827 Does he really have any though?
@@Johnny_Hopper I just rewatched it and they didn't ask. The first guy wasn't even close enough to ask and he didn't even congrat him. They just started grabbing and fighting over them like animals. It was even worse to watch the second and third time
I noticed it live and thought it was disgusting....so glad it got mentioned because I had forgotten about it already
The AMA and Feld should be fined for allowing spectators to storm the track before the race was over. Anderson actually hit a woman with his bike trying to finish the race.
That was crazy if they allowed that I wasn't there I'm not sure what was said but ya fans on the track when there were riders still finishing up is crazy. And those guys ripping Jetts goggles off 😂 holy shit I thought Red Bud was crazy
Gotta give jet even more plaudits for holding it together and not loosing his head at the start his heart beat must of been spiking somewhat .
I don't think there was any "allowing". The fans were in the trackside access section and there were simple waist high metal gates separating them from the track, like you would see at a parade or similar. When that big crowd pushed the gates over and started running, there was no where near enough security to stop them. I watched the mains from the stands, and when we walked down to the track after the races, the gates were still laying flat on the ground, we had to jump over them (spectators are allowed on the track briefly after the races).
@8180634 don't make excuses for poor planning and security. It shouldn't have happened, period.
@@glennmyers3580 there were thousands of people there trackside, it would have taken an army. The shame is how badly behaved people are becoming, it's going to ruin things for the rest of us. I've been there many times and the gates have been the same for years, never more required. There were the usual drunks but the weed was everywhere, it was hard to get a breath of fresh air and it's my belief these things contributed to the crowds bad behavior. I'm so sick of addicts..
Nothing will happen to Jett but watch Anderson get fined for kicking a spectator lol 😂
Who’s Anderson?
Anderson has arguably walked a fine line for many years.
@@st25atJason Anderson?
Lawrence meat riders ^
He's the guy that Jett threw a 2-year-olds tantrum over because he couldn't pass him and then flipped him off and grabbed his helmet. Thats the reason Jett was being booed for a few races. I'm sure you remember now. 🤣 @@st25at
I’m not really a deegan fan but when they asked him about his crash he said “I’m fine I just feel like I got my buttcheeks ripped apart” then he walks away and ends the interview. That was hilarious
We should talk about the people rushing the track WHILE there still people finishing the race. You saw Anderson and AP both still trying to finishing the race while people where all over the track
That crowd was so drunk and high, it was ridiculous, that probably factored into the decision to jump the gates early. I was there and the non stop smell of weed was disgusting, and of course the drunks were out. Some drunk behind us fell down the stairs and his beer can hit my wife in the head and covered her with beer. It's getting to the point that we can't go anywhere in public without dealing with the addicts.
People been getting drunk and high for years that dont exuse them. @@8180634
It looked very amateur hour ish to me
@@8180634bro chill, weed is legal and not that harmful compared to alcohol. It’s not that deep. I get it, you’re one of those old heads who thinks weed is so bad but you’re acting like a Karen w your comment
And Americans were laughing at us Australians for having a phone number to report anti social behaviour at stadiums. This is exactly what it's aimed at
The rules should always be strictly enforced. If we constantly make exceptions to the rules the line between what is legal or illegal is blurred. If the rules seem to harsh the teams can ask the AMA to change them in the future.
Ok strictly enforce the rules and every rider who has had 2 mechanics help with there hole shot devices gets a DQ now we see that every week too.
Dose Deegan now loose his win for the Ghost ride because a writen warning isn't enforcing that rule.
Any excuse we now look for to strip Jett of a win every time he races sour grapes much fuck me........
Who the heck is Johnny Hopper? No idea. I simply appreciate that somebody his level of pure SX MX speed (may even still have his USA Pro License (no idea because he’s always pin-pointing things that, in my 50 years of racing MX, I would never see or even think of.). There are a lot of channels with S/MX riders, fans, and pundits my age but nobody breaks it down like Hopper. Support this guy. The absence of hype is a great time saver. All signal/no static. Thanks Johnny. -DC
I have to agree, the possibility of serious injury here where a mechanic has his hand on/in the rear wheel whilst a rider is ready to take off is so close to something fatal!
The bike was obviously not ready to be on the gate......good call Johny.
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Once the all clear is given at the start all mechanics are required to vacate the starting area (usually around the 30 second board going up). Also one mechanic per rider on the starting gate. Jett had two
The other guy barely touched his bike he went in and then was told to puss off, didn’t help one but, what about anstie? Did the same happen with him working to get the bike going? Don’t see you whinging about him? You guys will whinge about anything. If anything jett was at a disadvantage and still had a better start then them, coming into the corner first before going a bit wide and losing a few positions.
@Upthebroncos310 you don't see anything wrong with what went on here? It was a clear violation of the rules, yet as a Jett fan you won't look at any faults and just feel the need to praise him.
@@thebros-br3to jett had 1 mechanic at the starting gate, the other was hunters, secondly he wasn’t repairing the bike at the gate he was removing a tire cover. I don’t see anything wrong with it, I think they were stupid for doing it, they should of learnt from anstie in the previous race who almost missed the start.
I don’t know, no harm no foul. Jett fans will say no and Jett haters will say yes. I think ap and tomac were focus and it didn’t bother them, but you have to ask them. Let it be
@@Upthebroncos310wtf is whinging?!
Rules are rules. If you don't enforce them all, how do you enforce any? Any chance of finding out if a protest has been filed? I think the race was great and probably no chance that this had anything to do with it, but they broke the rules. Interesting to see if it is addressed. They loaded the bike into the gate then made changes to it, pretty clear infraction.
i’m suprised star didn’t protest, they protest a lot of other stuff but not this one
There were no rules broken. Johnny is just stirring up drama for clicks. All the mechanic did was engage the holeshot device and remove the tire warmer late. Everyone's mechanic bumps into the other riders. the difference is they're usually not doing it 3 seconds before the gate drops. They weren't working on the bike because there were no tools involved. Only one crew member touched the bike.
@@loneventhorizon no he’s not stirring up drama
if you read the ama rule book which johnny goes into, honda/jett broke a rule and should be penalized for it but he probably won’t be because you know he’s #feldsbabyboy
@doglover136_ I have read the rule book and spoken about it many times including all the passages Johnny went over.
Section 1.8.8 b,2
"Each Rider may have only one crew member accompany them to the Starting Gate. No other crew members are permitted at the Starting Gate." Jett had one and Hunter had one.
Christien Ducharme - Race Mechanic, Jett Lawrence
Cameron Camera - Race Mechanic, Hunter Lawrence
There is no mention of tire warmers in the rule book. Engaging the holeshot device and removing tire warmers is not working on the bike. There were no tools involved. Ferrandis had 2 crew phoenix racing honda crew members attending to him, and he's the only 450 guy for their team.
Section 1.8.10 a,2
"In the event a Rider needs to make repairs once loaded in the starting gate, the motorcycle must be pushed back from the gate to behind the rear restraint before any repairs can be made, so as not to interfere with other competitors." - This is where it was on the stand behind the gate.
Anytime Jett wins it brings out those salty Yanks 😂🤦♂️
I agree with you on Tomac getting pissed after getting passed you could see the way he was riding was really aggressive right after getting passed and the bike started smoking.
The bike was smoking since the first lap, sounds like a leaky valve cover
@@johnwilkes8847 Ok maybe I only saw what was on TV and that was when I noticed it.
Obviously Tomac’s bike was blowing smoke therefore it was in danger of dropping oil and catching fire 🔥. Can’t let the rules be broken.
@@adzythepwcblokeinaustralia5467what part of the clutch is that?
@@roddas26 Tomac said his clutch was fine ?
Yamaha are touchy about the rear shock since they had an earlier failure lol
Let's just say that instead of Jett "Supersonic" Lawrence this was Jason "Excuse Me" Anderson. There would have been a Fine, Disqualification, and Penalty.
They changed his rear tire...a Repair....the tire cover should have been removed " Before " pushing up to gate....they should have made him move his bike back from Gate....and a " second " mechanic is an infraction.... even if he stood there...i believe he also assisted in the Tire change??
Not against Jett..but? Rules Matter.here.... they didn't do anything to deal with it...before during and After the Race....nothing???
If the AMA doesn’t address the obvious infractions by Honda, they lose all credibility and will further erode trust in their justice system.
You made some stellar observations and factually pointed out the AMA can only rely on their reserved right to enforce what hasn’t been covered in the penalty phase.
Yes. This should be addressed. He should not have preferential treatment or whatever.
The holeshot device caused more of an interference than the wheel cover 💁
Isn’t that technically against the rule then to it’s working on a the bike on the gate
...get rid of those devices....as well as the mapping gizmos....
@@1969cmpthis isn’t the 90’s bro
... that's part of the problem with motocross, that the simplicity is gone and the strain of cost has mounted. Motocross doesn't need all this gimmickry. KISS - Keep It Simple, Stupid.@@brandon_doe
@@1969cmpfunny how they messed them up at SanFrancisco going into first corner with no front suspension now metal grates it’s too much people say moto go has way to much technology ruining it too
Don't penalize the kid, penalize the team and mechanics for such a stupid move. Wasnt Jett's fault. I know Johnny hates Jett as much as he likes Electric bikes LOL. The kid went out there and put on a show.
If it was Johnnys favorite 250 rider, he wouldn’t say a word
Excellent read !
I meannnnnn….. tf
You’re basically saying let the team fuck with other riders while there’s like 10 sec to start but let the golden boy go
@@brandon_doe No, I'm saying fine the team and mechanics with a big fine, it's not the riders fault what happened. A big fine should curve this from happening again.
agree 100%
Can you imagine the inconvenience and distraction the other riders were having to try and concentrate through. He should be penalized.
I would think if they bumped AP's handlebar that would definitely be distracting that was really close to the gate drop if AMA hasn't done anything yet they probably won't.
He used that same hand to adjust his nuts after that, come up with a better excuse!
Which is kinda a bunch of bull imo. Cuz ama has fined and taken points for much less before. For it not to even be discussed is kinda crazy.
Don't act as if that disrupted AP, he adjusted his nuts with that same hand after that bump
@@AaMabove yeah but let's say he was already adjusted and gloves pulled/strapped how he wanted and he was completely set then that happened and threw him off then maybe he would've reacted. But like Johnny said it's in the rule book for a reason and could certainly argue the fact
@@AaMabovebecause it was a distraction. If you watched it, he clearly was distracted and tried his best not to be
Two clear infractions, repair on the gate, and two mechanics
Toe mechanics? I think you mean podiatrist 😊
Another great video Hopper! It will be interesting to see what the AMA says about the Jett situation.
historically speaking the AMA will leave HRC alone. HRC has always carried a lot of weight in the sport.
Yup if it literally was anyone else I guarantee they would’ve been penalized but since it was Jett he won’t be smh
BS! If it was anyone else it wouldn’t even be mentioned.
@@st25at surelyyy😂🤦♂️
Pathetic
if that wasnt a top 5 rider then the AMA official in the blue shirt wouldve pulled them off the line. Rules are rules and theres a reason the Daytona penalty report hasnt been released yet.
Let’s imagine for a moment that every rider on the gate each had two team members working on their bikes, bumping into other riders. That would be more than 40 crew members and 20+ riders all on the gate 30 seconds before the gate drops. I don’t think the AMA would allow that, so was is it allowed without penalty for one rider? Seems like some special accommodation.
When Jett got past Eli & Chase, Eli tried to respond & almost got past Chase that's when he got angry because Jett was getting away & his bike started smoking
The smoke wasn't from the clutch it was from a loose valve cover gasket as per Yamaha
But torque specs... 😛
@@Chillerguy48that’s for sissys
He knows how his bike is set up.
As per the rule book, there was interference with other riders. But with that said, the AMA will do nothing because Jett is their golden boy. However, if it was Anderson or Barcia they would have filed criminal charges. Talk about discrimination against certain riders. The bike should have been pulled back from the starting gate .
If the shoe was on the other foot and Yamaha mechanics were in there at 9 (?) seconds to go bumping into Jet Lawrence, Honda would be screaming. Where's the AMA?
The rules are in black & white. I would like to see if the AMA holds the same standard across the board.
Rules are rules! They apply to ALL of the he riders.
Once Eli started doing that quad he was putting in faster lap times
1Eli
2Jett
3Jett
4Eli
5Jett
*6Jett* fastest lap
7Jett
8Jett
9Jett
10Jett
11Eli
12Eli
13Eli
14Eli
Interference w/ other riders seems clear.
Everyone's bars get bumped on the starting line from mechanics moving from the front of their respective bike to the back so penalising one penalise all in that case, did they cut it fine yes but they did miss engaging the whole shot button 3 times so it was finer than it needed to be for sure. This is a storm in a tea cup for all the Jett haters to get on board because he smoked Tomac at Deytona let's be honest because not once have we heard people yelling about 2 mechanics touching a bike until this round and yet we see every weekend 2 mechanics helping to engage a holeshot device. The only guy to be disadvantaged here was Lawrance he was the only one not set 100% in his starting posture or position and he would have felt that rear tire cover being removed, no its a totally diffrent story if the mechanic was hitting the other bikes, there is really nothing in this warning first offence and a fine ...... haters got to hate I guess.
@@Sh1tstirya when there getting lined on up
Not when they’re fully focused on the start
@@Sh1tstirkid has earned the "hate" as you call it.
His post race tantrum at Anderson was to much for some.
I get it.
He's still young, with a long future ahead.
@roddas26 earned it how exactly because him and Ando getting into it isn't hate worthy, and it was media inspired........ the only shots Ando has fired this year, was a pretty average and petty instagram come back...... thought he was supposed to be the adult in that situation.
He doesn't clean people out and don't even trip on the Faukner crash that was an unfortunate racing incident....
I'm just not sure how he actually earned the hate, outside of the media twisting his words to suit a narrative they want to write about to create conflict and content........
To be fair Deegan is far far far more disrespectful to his competitors than Lawrance has ever been..... Yet Deegan talks the talk but as yet has failed to walk the walk and you all got a hard on for him because the media is pumping up his tyres because once again, he is content and as long as he's content its acceptable.
@Austeeeno Yeah it's later than usual granted but it happens
If I was Yamaha... I would complain. As a fan of racing... no place penalty.
they normally protest but they didn’t
Two mechanics distracting the surrounding riders, who are all in the championship hunt, seconds before the gate drop, is definitely grounds for some action taken against team Honda. I knew this was trouble when I saw them opting for a tire change after the hot lap.
I was waiting for this to come up, also thought no one should be behind the starting gate at the 30 second board.
I would consider this a repair to the motorcycle. Weren’t they changing Jett’s rear tire after the parade lap prior to the gate drop? In regards to removing the tire cover it is all apart of the repair process
Also how Jett jumped at speed through a yellow flag section
Although I know what you are trying to say at 11:30, a heavier object does not fall faster due to gravity. Drop a 10lb and 30lb dumbbell from your roof, they hit the ground at the same time.
How dare you!! Psychics/Science doesn’t have any hard and fast rules any more.
I agree on the Jett penalty
Oh no , We couldn't possibly penalize the great Jett Lawrence , that's for guys like Deegan who ghost ride .
@@BrianGauley😢😢
I agree with you finally 👍 good one. Hefty fine to the team and a documented warning, Not Jett’s fault but someone’s fault
Especially when Sexton let's jet by every time moves right out of his way. He did it in this race and then blocked. Eli
Wow now if Tomac was to do the quad after he was passed by Jett he would have easily got by Sexton too but he waited until the final 2 mins of the race to do it ........ sorry champ that's on Tomac not Sexton.
He over jumped into the corner, missed the inside rut, please just stop. Eli lost it was bound to happen eventually at Daytona.
Haha😂whatever
Sexton rolls over every time jett passes him, that wasn't the first time.
@user-ve6nw4jk7m that's a Sexton problem not a Lawrance problem but if your man Tomac was up for it the he should have changed lines earlier but it's always someone else fault isn't it there's always a reason why every other rider couldn't beat Jett but you still haven't figured out that maybe he's just too good........ No one held Tomac up when Jett rode around and away from him at Glendale what was the excuse there ......
If it was another rider they would get penalized. AMA and Feld are catering to Jett all for the money. They have been doing little stuff like this to help him win the Championship.
Hey Johnny, love your videos but regarding physics 😂 a heavier bike doesn't fall faster towards the ground, but it DOES accelerate slower with a given amount of throttle 👍 I actually talk about the physics of riding technique on my channel a lot ✅️😁🏆🏁 keep it WFO ❤
BTW I studied Nano Science, including physics etc. And I also make videos about the potential future technologies of motocross like this one th-cam.com/video/qsEEOYD5EIw/w-d-xo.htmlsi=oyfxaGbajENMvScl
I want tomac to win it all but would hate to see someone lose a championship over something like that. Whoever the best this season is should win. But rules are rules to so I’d understand it if it happend
11:20 I have to point out something that I just can't not comment about. The acceleration due to gravity has NOTHING TO DO WITH AN OBJECTS MASS. Yes, as the weight increases the the force of gravity increases, but the reason they need to go faster as the mud builds up and the ruts deepen is because the lip of the jump gets lower. This changes the Range equation angle (R=V^2*sin2∆/g). As ∆ decreases the R decreases. The only way for R (range, length of jump) to be maintained is to by increasing V (velocity) on takeoff. g for Gravity is a constant acceleration and the mud does not impact it whatsoever. g is the same for all objects regardless of mass. Its all about the angle decreasing as the ruts get deeper. Ok that's what I came to say. Really great video otherwise Johnny.
It’s not small, it’s rules , he didn’t have to be different and change his tire
Removing a tire cover is a repair. F…ing hilarious. I’m just glad AP and ET aren’t as angry as some of these fans😂😂
Didnt AMA say a while back that the rules in the book are just guidelines. So i guess that basically means it depends on who it is.
Absolutely agree, if it was a privateer they would be dq
AMA won’t do a thing, Jett on a Honda is their golden boy.
....in the late 90s it seems that there was an AMA and Yamaha love fest.....
Great analysis brother as always, super fair perspectives
Enforce the rules as they are written across the board. Repairs on gate, interfering with other rider, did not roll bike back to work on the bike, two mechanics instead of one.
Why is nobody talking about Jett quading under yellow? Less than a minute to go, even one of the track officials threw his hands up at him.
Red cross flag means you can not jump the yellow means hazard ahead you can still jump and pass etc with caution marshalls stand on track and wave people around the hazard.
The AMA will not penalize their pretty boy.
Teams should boycott Daytona until they get rid of the trackside tickets.
If it were Jason Anderson you could bet your bippy that there would be penalties.
Jett broke the rules. He should be penalized.
I’m with ya Hopper. I didn’t even think about this. Definitely bumping into AP was BS. Never mind all the other stuff
Who edited out the AmA OFFICIAL pulling on his belt???
Literally was grabbing him by the phanypack and trying to pull him back... WTF!!
So obvious A.M.A. gave more than enough of a warning.
did no one else see Jett jump the entire rhythm section, with multiple yellow flags out .?
Turning the racing into nascar kittens. 1 rule don't cut the track. Gate drops the BS 😂stops. Truth.45 yr race veteran with wins in all classes 🎉
It's Jett so AMA won't do anything. It seemed like they gave him extra time before starting the 30 second board also. The rules are pretty clear so how could they not penalize him.
Yes! Dock him a position. Rules apply to Jett too!
Jett should not have been allowed to start the race. His bike was not ready to race when it was pushed up to the gate. And, there were two guys at the gate working on the bike after the 30 second board was up. Automatic DQ. The rules are clearly stated. Ask Jeff Ward about what happens when your bike is at the gate and you need to do something to it.
Once again, Jett was going faster than anyone else and doing things no one else was doing.
4:56 I love it. It should be a warning and a fine. Coz it's not actually written in the rules.
Then that means he hasn't broken a rule.
To brake a rule it must be definitive otherwise it won't hold.
Is removing a tyre blanket a repair? Prob not.
Jett was occumpanied by 1 person to the gate and hunters help. Is that against the rules. No.
Exactly, everyone making a big fuzz about it but is not in the freaking rulebook. At most Ama can change this for next year, it´s always been like this, every team exploit the rules to their advantage and then the organization modify the rules to avoid any bs. See F1 and stop trying to find every effing detail, let the riding do the talk
Its more of a Jett smoked Tomac in Tomacs house we need to find any excuse or reason to strip the win becuase this can't happen its no possible it's Tomacs house....... just another media beat up.
Every rider gets there bars knocked after a mechanic moves from front to back after engaging hole shot device and there was such a huge reaction from A.P I thought he was going to fall off his bike 😂😂😂😂 and the tyre cover wow the only one it affected was Jett so a huge disadvantage to Tomac and AP oh thats right they didn't even flinch.......😂😂😂
@@Sh1tstiragree, the Karen's here are out of controll. Its a dirty mx race ffs not formula 1 princesses.
Hate to say it because I like the kid but Jett should be docked a position or two for that, distracting your opponents that are in the championship and keeping the tire warmer on to the last second is a clear advantage.
Should be a penalty, plain and simple no warning a penalty and win taken away
at least a warning at a minimum.
What is the actual penalty for that?? Whatever it is in the book should be enforced!
Johnny notices everything! Johnny for AMA pres 😅
The rules need to be clarified for the holeshot device…
Absolutely no setting it after 30 second board!
Not a Jet hater, but factory teams shouldn’t be fussing around in the gate, paid professionals are last second, guess the rider needs to start without it… no touching bikes or riders after 30 second card and figure out the penalty… and Yes its a team so the rider deserves the penalty
Jonnie there is a behind the riders with a camera view the 2nd guy is Grabbed by the ama official, BUT HES ACTUALLY THE ONE THAT GOT THE TIRE WARMER OFF. SO THAT 2 People working on the bike within 5 seconds of the gate drop, its a FUCMING 1 LAP PENALTY , PERIOD , OR IF THE AMA Wants to go buy the rule book a total Disqualification, but its up to there desression on the penalty , so of there being NICE ITS A 1 LAP PENALTY. BUT DEFFINALTLY A PENALTY , OF AT LEAST 1 LAP !!!! OR EVEN A DIS Q PER THE AMA 2024 RUKES BOOK ,
Great video Johnny don’t forget to talk about the 450 finish with the crowd came on the track before the riders were off of it
Nothing will be done to jett, unfortunately.
He should be docked/penalized. But if course he wont because feld isnt gonna let that happen to golden boy
“Rules for thee but not for me” he’s the golden child so of course they don’t give him any warning or penalties even if rules have clearly been broken. We have rules for a reason so either enforce them no matter the rider or don’t.
I do not agree with radios. The rider has to think on his own. Radios would take that away. Think about it. "Block the inside Degan is coming in hot." or " You need to start hitting the quad." If the racer can't see that it on his own it's chaeating.
Yes. They Should penalize him.
The motorcycle falls faster when it's heavier because of physics? 😂
🤣
That was very funny 😂
I thought this was gonna be click bait but you definitely have a point in Jett breaking the rules at the starting line.
Title yes content is well thought out and very deliberate. Thank you for watching
I just wondered what if Anderson had done that lol
They’ve penalize Anderson for less than that lol
Come on get serious. You know that’s not true. If think most people understand Anderson rides a fine line and gets away with a lot.
I would argue that when they all use the hole shot device and set it on the gate that’s no different then taking off the wheel cover. Tomato tahmotto
Title 24 podcast spoke with AMA who said no rules were broken. This isnt classed as a repair as it would of been taken off at the gate anyway. they also asked other riders and teams about the incident and asked riders around him if they were distrupted... unsure on the nswers but from what the title 24 guys said, there wont be any fines or points taken away.
"but jett had 2 mechanics" no jett had 1 mechanic, i assume the other may of been hunters mechanic.... "but that means he had 2 mechanics touching his bike"... well you see all the time mechnics heling riders engage the holeshot device...
No rules broken BUT its worthy of a discussion... what if jett thought his mechanic had his hands out the way and he didnt and jeet took off on gate drop... it was a dangerous situation... how do you stop it from happening again? i dunno, ban tyre changes on the grid??
Rules be rules I think if the shoe was on the other foot Jett would throw a fit
And if Tomac had to change a tire on the gate not a single American would care....
@@mittyvidz8259 they would
Dumb move. Skip the parade lap. Talk to the 250 guys for track info.
Youre telling me they cant just use a brush or something to get the majority of the mud off? Im a Honda fanboy but rules are rules.
As a Team, Honda had no choice once they started down that path. They take their chance, try to win the race on TV and in front of the fans. Deal with penalties later.
He's a chosen one if anyone else absolutely
Jett is golden boy they won’t do 💩 he did break rules according to the rules
Nothing will happen to the "Golden Child"...he's the Kelce/Swift of moto. And the fans rushing the track was awful. I'd be so pissed if I was trying to finish my race...never mind liability.
If it was Anderson there would be penalties
No one saw the crash at the end of the 250 main over the tunnel jump. Be the first to report on it. Heard it was Lorenzo Locurcio. taken off in the ambulance.
I thought the same thing. Glad you made a video about this
It is driving me nuts that i cant find the attendance numbers for daytona, they talked about it being the most attended ever multiple times but they never tell you what it was! 😂
I know
Rules are rules especially when he broke 2
If removing the tire cover is "making repairs" then setting starting devices is the same thing and everyone gets DQ'd.
Anyone else would be fucked but not jettson Bieber 😂😂😂😂
Unarguably, there should be a penalty.
Don`t they have rules and possible punishments set in place for sht like this? Cmon now.
Ama and feld wont say a thing about he fans but they will fine anderson next time he goes off track 😂😂