TikTok Memes & Reacting to React Drama
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I'm first hell ya!!
@@loveisuseless2921Wrong❌
@@loveisuseless2921no
@@loveisuseless2921 no the guy above you is first
Either way, you guys are way more entertaining than XQC with the personal stories and the jokes, theres countless potential for memes whenever you guys upload even if its a 10 minutes video
Tf is xqc?
@@food090 I think hes the number 1 streamer on Twitch. Thats all I know about him though
@@notadoge8178 All I heard is that he leaches on videos even when he goes to the bathroom.
@@food090unfortunately he isn’t number one anymore.
@@nocontent._.3135Kai got arrested he’s back on too now
There is a very clear and massive different between reacting to like a 15 second Tik Tok versus reacting to an hour long video that took months to make while just sitting there eating. There's a reason that movies and TV shows have these copyright protections so their work can't just be fully reuploaded without consequences, and I think if a TH-camr wants those similar levels of protection that's totally valid.
When you run a TH-cam channel as a business it's very different than posting memes. Reddit or Tik Tok reactions are just fundamentally not at the same level, and to assume that they are is ridiculous. Memes are meant to be shared and passed around to all counters of the internet, that is the point.
and thats not to say that i disagree with you, just that i think the arguments are at least somewhat valid, even if i dont necessarily agree with them.
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The issue with xqc is that he left and just let it play. That is called stealing content. Reaction/s are about placing your own input into the content and expanding upon it, making it original.
It's the same in music, to take Brian's song "Shave my balls", it took something that Nogla said, altered it and mixed it into a song. To which, original content was made. Sure, it used content but also transformed it into a new product.
xqc did not transform anything, he used original content to fill a gap in his absence. Ergo stealing content directly.
@@BS-bs9fs While I agree with your point, I would also say that maybe there where people who wouldn’t have been exposed to this guys content without the xqc bump. I’m not an XQC fan myself, nor am I a content creator, but I do think there might be some value there. All that is to say, I think the way XQC went about it was pretty shitty, (as I understand the situation, I didn’t see it actually play out) but maybe if he had like done a proper shout out, given the guy proper credit, maybe they would feel differently. Honestly, the whole content creation and viewer stealing and all that is to complex for my pea brain, but I feel like people are getting upset over things that aren’t really a big deal 🤷♂️
@@BrokenPoptarthim reacting on his stream on Twitch is fair game, since there's little crossover of viewers since it's a different platform, the problem is when he uploads the same react, completely unedited, wiith 0 transformative content, and with yhe exact same title and thumbnail as the original video onto his youtube channel, since at that point it'd be competeing with the views the original could have, since why would his fans watch original when they could watch his reaction to it?
Also worth mentioning, when a reaction video became a transformative enough to be ethical, it's become a commentary video. There's more than just reactions. That's what your channel has been, very ethical.
Edit: This isn't open season to talk shit in the comments. It's okay to disagree with their viewpoints, you can do that without being a douche. It's literally free. They are intelligent adults and I'm sure their viewpoints will shift as they get a better perspective of the 'culture shift'.
they only react to short tiktoks or videos about them and their friends too, I think that this channel is very ethical.
edit: watching the whole video i have some disagreements but their content overall is alright
Yeah reactions should have, y'know, reactions to them. Commentary, feedback, etc. If a streamer watches something for ten minutes with little to no commentary and makes 50-100 bucks while doing it, that's not helping someone, that's grifting.
@@MaxOutOfTen Yes.
Its also not the only thing they do.
Yeah, you have to provide commentary. Otherwise you're just leeching views off of the guy if you keep going back to him since people will just wait for your react video instead of going to the source.
Nogla and Terroriser do a good job with commentary. That said they HAVE killed any reason I might have had for going onto TikTok. With these guys going, and others, I just wait for the react channels who even go to the trouble of vetting stuff to make sure it's quality.
Your channel isn’t an issue within reaction content. You guys provide a lot more than the original video. You make it something more.
but they don't credit the original creator of the tik toc
@@bat23yam sure but at least they don’t just play the videos idly existing in the background, they talk about the videos, make jokes, branch off into conversations and etc. Them reacting to tik tok is the only tik tok i consume I don’t use it anymore.
@@typicalhitman4115 exactly, atleast they watch the video and react genuinely instead of faked.
Also they technically do credit the originals otherwise their videos would've been strucked
Ludwig made a great point and possibly I would argue the best solution to this drama on his "Huge TH-camr Drama" video on his Mogul Mail channel. He said, "there should be a tool for creators to claim the monetization of a video." He goes on to explain that the tool technically doesn't exist for creators, but for only certain companies in mcns. Music companies and Mcns can do it, but creators can't. I'm assuming there's a lot more companies that can do it too, just using those two examples that he provided.
Now I do want to say that react videos and response videos are different. Allowing creators, like LEMMiNO, to claim the monetization of a video they made that say a Streamer/TH-camr, xQc, reacted too is good. However, say TH-camr 1 makes a response video, get's their video monetization claimed by TH-camr 2, who originally made a video about them(YT1), because they(YT1) took clips from their(YT2) video and responded to it. That wouldn't be good. For that, TH-camr 1 should be able to submit some sort of request to remove the monetization claim that was made by TH-camr 2, with evidence that correctly justifies their request.
Hopefully that make sense, if not I'm willing to try and explain it better. LEMMiNO should be able to claim the monetization of xQc's "The Kennedy Assassination | xQc Reacts to LEMMiNO" video, why because xQc uploaded the entire video of LEMMiNO without giving any education or other meaningful purpose on his channel. Now you could say that he was watching the video to learn about the it, but that doesn't excuse him for uploading the hour long video onto his channel for monetary gain. Doesn't matter how much he gains, he still gains. Sure in terms of views LEMMiNO has 5.8 million views on "The Kennedy Assassination" video, while xQc has 400k views on his "reaction" video at the time of writing this, but stealing is stealing, and he gains monetary for those 400k views still. At least allow content creator to claim the monetization. Everyone can be happy.
Brian's dad's parrot mimicking the mom is like Brian's soundboard 😂 😂
Vintage GoXLR
I used to have a parrot, he would always repeat the words "dirty bird", which he picked up from his previous owner.
parrots are organic soundboards
It’s been ingrained into him since a child to soundboard hilarious stuff around him XD
I can’t say I agree with you guys about the way xQc does his reactions. For a reaction to be transformative it has to be like what you guys do. Adding to the video and enhancing it. Leaving a video up for your audience to watch just steals the views from the original video, and there’s no guarantee it’ll bring new traction to the channel. That said, you guys set a good example and I hope more creators take from your book!
exactly!
The reason why everyone was upset about it is because he did it one hour when the video just got put up. And honestly I think that's bullshit somebody's hard work shouldn't be used when they just posted it
depends on the size of the channel. very small creators gain a IMMENSE boost from a bigger creator watching them but from channels that are 1 million or 5 million subscribers it doesnt matter to them that they got 200 subs from someone reacting when they lost potentially 10k views
The number of "not a white American male" reaction channels out there is insane.
And it's pretty much always limited commentary. "Oh man, wow. I didn't know that." is basically every video for them.
@@itroph But they never got credited. How can a small channel get a boost, when they're not credited? Jackfilms made a point about sniperwolf as she will PURPOSELY hide the original creator's name 99% of the time. Even then, it doesn't matter how small your channel is, always ask for permission first. Which is something SSW or xqc never do, or the majority of eact channels.
Ive followed yall for years yal were my high school years, now as a mom myself i got my kids watching this and laughing, ill admit yall separate channels hit or miss together i havent missed a video even when in the hospital with pneumonia when i was finally awake i daught up on every video i missed, love you irish men keep it up on everything 💕
Brian and Nogla. There already been videos you can now search up that showcase that after the small initial spike of views/subscribers that the original creator gets, the "react" channel gets 10 times everything from "reacting" said video.
The funny thing is that Jacksfilm is showcasing just that with what Sssniperwolf is doing.
Plus, there's long term damage to consider.
If a bare-bones commentary react channel keeps up with everything a channel does they are absolutely leeching views off of the creator.
After all, if you follow the react channel anyway why bother with also watching the creator's thing?
@@lmno567 Dont forget to tune into the bingo! For real though im appreciative of what he's doing
@@lmno567yea personally i dont care about ssniperwolf i couldn't even watch her videos when she was popular shes just annoying but stealing content is awful
The crazy part about that African Grey Parrot is that the guy originally said that the tile backsplash was rock, but the parrot kept saying it was glass because it made the same sound when he hit it. The guy reexamined it and admitted that it actually was glass. That's why the parrot says "Glassk" because the owner was just trying to convince him that glass was rock so the parrot just combined the two.
I completely disagree with Brian, Creators barely get any sort of promotion from react creators. The volume of the content they steal is just so large you can't expect any fraction of the audience to go to the original creators, and its been proven from creators who have gotten reactions from their videos that it gets them 100 or somewhere in that ballpark amount of views, anyone blowing up from being reacted to is the exception rather than the rule. and the point of it being a compliment to react to something, literally doesn't matter. I wouldn't want a millionaire to profit off my work in exchange for a compliment, nobody sane would.
I still continue to watch this channel though because it is transformative enough that I watch for Brian's and Nogla's conversations instead of the tik tok's themselves. when XQC puts on someone else's video essay that took 6 months of effort to make and then eats noodles in the corner, that's blatant theft to have engaging content playing on your stream without putting in any work to do so. And people like Brian giving backlash on channels that have dozens of hours of work behind them is a really shit take man. Please respect the channels that don't just blurt out a video made in a few hours everyday, instead of insulting them for rightfully being pissed
Yeah Brian was extremely way off the mark there.
While I see your point completely, I do wanna point out a couple things
1. Idk about you but I don’t watch react videos to learn about the stuff, I watch it for the people reacting. Like the city, I didn’t know it existed and without the video being shown on a channel I watch I never would. So they wouldn’t get my view anyways, but even worse I wouldn’t even know their channel name. Which leads into my second point
2. The popular and common saying that “any attention is better than none” sure the video doesn’t have a massive spike, and maybe their subs or views on their other vids don’t either, but
There is something
And their channel got seen, by a ton of people who’d otherwise probably not see it
And 3, media is created to be reacted to, seen and consumed
Of course, I think video essays and shit is a bit different, a lot of work goes into that. And like I said I see your point fs. I just don’t think Brian is completely wrong, nor do I think it’s a shit take. It sounds callous but it ain’t stealing cuz they weren’t gonna get it anyways most likely, and if you want people to not watch your shit then don’t make it, or lock it behind patreon or something
To be clear morally, I nearly completely agree
But from a logical, cold, fact-driven standpoint I don’t really see a problem.
I think Brian and Nogla just make it into the group of good reactors. For a reactor to be any good they need two things, permission from the creator whether direct or indirect (basically not getting told by the creator to take it down or not do it) and to actually contribute something like comedy skits or discussion. There are tons of reactors who just sit there and make noises, say the same thing over and over in all their videos or do nothing and profit off of someone who has made an amazing video. Quite a few people will watch a reaction video and then not watch the original cause they've seen it and it can take attention away from a person who's just trying to make a living.
i think the gold standard of a react channel is what asmongold is doing which is doubling maybe even tripling the video he uploads comapred to what he watches with his own insights, discussions and thoughts about what a video is saying.
"Math Teacher/Math expert reacts to Animation vs Math"
"Naval Officer reacts to Cost of Concordia by Internet Historian"
"Music Producer reacts to X song"
these are My gold, love to hear their opinions that are construct based on Experience
for Reagular Reactors, they are expect to comment while also paying attention, otherwise why would I watch someones "reaction" like XQCs? he does that to All the videos hes not into, mad disrespect to Original creator and the ones that came to see his "reaction"
No such thing as a good react channel
@@Lil_B_Fan47this channel and beast reacts and a few others are pretty good
@Lil_B_Fan47 I disagree, if someone adds value to a video based on their experiences or knowledge whether it be college education or lived experience then they can truly transform it into something different.
React channels take up a large portion of my subscriptions. Ive been watching many for years and I will say theres a clear ranking in quality for those channels.
Me personally I enjoy channels like Blind Wave, Normies, Sean TankTop, Reel Rejects, and Holden Hardman because while they react to movies and tv shows they are always going to have a discussion at the end to speak more about while conveying how they feel also throughout the whole video.
A personal favorite of mine is YaBoyRoshi, great personalities, and when they go live on twitch to play games they also bring their discussions into the games they play. I think at one point I was watching them livestream the ending of TLOU2 and after it finished everyone went into a 3 hour discussion regarding the actions of each character and what they think the ending symbolized.
While I do consider channels who just constantly watch memes/tiktoks to be the lowest tier of reaction content I can still say I enjoy it as long as theirs something to be thrown in or it looks like theirs effort into editing and etc...
What XQC does is pure laziness. Puts on a video and leaves to soak in money is ridiculous.
And also your guys's consensus on react content is pretty delusional considering you think that just because a big guy is watching something a little guy made, just barely paying attention is justified because they're bringing in more views.
I get with the nature of this channel and how it operates but, realistically how would you feel if you were a channel that is spending hours of research to put together a video for example Wendigoon and then spending double that time having it edited just for someone bigger than you to put it on their stream and then leaving and making hundreds off of it in a few minutes.
Darkviperau has done a lot of very good videos on the ethics of react content and how most of the time the person getting reacted too will lose they will see barely a spike in views and barely any viewer retention leaving that creator with nothing and the reactor with thousands of dollars that they get from watching a video and "reacting"
Having them commentate and give their views about that would be nice.
@@CAPTAiNC it would be nice to see though I don't really seeing them coming back to this topic unless the react drama blows up even more
Pretty much the case here. Content that is being reacted to is one and done. It's not like a gameplay. Very few if any will checkout the content creator's page meanwhile the reactor gets to reap the benefit without contributing anything to do video. Especially in the case of XQC, 10mins of 18 min video where he's not even there to give a reaction let alone commentary to.
Legally it is quite clearly defined commentary needs to be transforamtive, educative or other. It can't be "nothing".
"Oh but you get exposure" Restaurants know damn well how that exposure works.
@@Userext47 exactly a great explanation of this whole scam
didnt Xqc watch the entire video and hardly say a word then upload the entire thing to his youtube channel?
21:57 Yes! Nogla always knows the right words to describe our level of apathy. 😂
I don't think Brian realises that after they would've seen the video on xqc's channel, only a fraction of a fraction of a percent will check out the channel, especially if the reactor is reacting to something that isn't at all related to them.
Oh yeah, that argument is done by people who have no clue what its like to be a small content creator and to have your stuff stolen by a streamer like xQc or Hasan. I would recommend looking up Jay Exci and his beef with Hasan from when Hasan not only stole Jay's video and just walked away and let the whole thing play but purposefully skipped Jay's self promo in the video for other content on their channel.
@stigmaoftherose I'd agree but at the same time a lot of those people who never saw the video sooner or something related probably weren't ever gonna see it, so being exposed to more people is better than nothing
@@bradleycortes9161but it's really not though it's just stealing other people's stuff basically at this point there are thousands of people who have already watched that video and maybe 5 would go over to that channel and check it out then maybe 2 would stick around that's how reacts work they steal what took weeks to create for 30 minutes out of a 5 hour stream where they are earning thousands each stream it's like if I stole $5 from your wallet and gave you $1 because you found out you got robbed but like to hundreds of people everyday
@@bradleycortes9161what do you mean, why would they watch it on the original channel if they already watched it on XQC’s one
@@bradleycortes9161ah i get what you meant now, but it’s infuriating if someone just repost your stuff and get money for it, imagine if someone open a Patreon to post artworks of other artists
I remember seeing somewhere that Xqc's defense for "reacting" to videos is "What am I supposed to do, react harder?"
I'm not sure if he was serious or not
He probably is
xqc said he's going to debate anyone who's against react content and when he was challenged by someone, he refused and later explained that he was scared
@@PiniutLEGIT at least he knows he's in the wrong. Won't stop him from going "oooohhhh" once in an hour long vid, if we're lucky.
if he knew he's in the wrong he'd stop, he didn't even tell the person that challenged him that he quits, he just broke all contact, didn't respond and said he's scared on somebody else's stream@@zenora84
it's more of he didn't have arguments, so he just ceased to argue; a smart choice or not he shouldn't invite to a debate when he leaves before it starts
@zenora6025 no, you misunderstand, he didn't claim he was scared of the debate, he said he was scared of "FaNs BeInG wEaPoNiSeD" against him.
He hasn't admitted to being wrong, he's just made up an excuse so he can dodge a debate from the one person who knows more about this topic than anyone, debate someone less familiar with the strongest arguments, and claim a win from them.
He's essentially looking for a strawman to represent someone else's argument poorly so he doesn't have to seriously consider them
I personally dislike XQC a lot for some of his really toxic behavior he's had towards others. I can completely understand why some people take offense to having their video reacted to by him. If someone posts a video and doesn't want someone to react to it, then be a good person and choose not to react to it.
Agree the only think i like about XQC is his scared compilation other than that i didnt like his toxic behavior
The problem with the xQc thing is that none of those people were watching his video. He could have had 15,000 people in his stream and not one would be watching the video on TH-cam. They're watching xQc's channel, so the video with 15,000 people watching it would only register as a single person watching. Neo has 1.46 million subscribers on youtube. I don't know if he's really looking for exposure. xQc is literally making money off of playing the content that he didn't make, and added nothing to except his empty chair.
"Free exposure" is an insult to anyone who provides a service, and it's usually a sign that someone wants something for nothing.
There's a reason that "paid in exposure" became a meme among artists. Exposure doesn't pay bills and isn't a guarantee of future success in any tangible way. Inluencers asking for free stuff get absolutely ridiculed because they try to treat exposure like actual currency.
There's ONE sign of a good reaction channel.
1. You are getting more laughs, or having more thoughts about the video because of what the person(s) reacting add to the video.
My favorite candy as a kid, that got changed because the Wonka company is run my idiots, is the original Gobstoppers. They were jawbreakers little cousin that had a bunch of different flavor layers down to a small crunchy core. Now they're about half the size, have 2 thin layers, and a giant red chalky core.
As an avid birb lover THANK YOU BRIAN! While you didn't get too deep into it, you did mention how having a pet African gray isn't always as sweet as that vid showed. Too many people get birbs thinking they'll be like a puppy, when in reality a lot (especially parrots) end up acting like a moody toddler. Also African grays on average have one of the biggest vocabularies
Agreed! Too many buy birds not realising it's a commitment with a toddler for at least 30 years (but bigger birds like the African Grey being around 70)! Including the temper tantrums!
i think Brian is blowing a lot of smoke up a lot of bums. what isn’t talked about enough is the NATURE of the videos being watched. showing the entirety of a viral moment or clip from a content creator i believe really can push a lot of traffic or encourage people to seek more. those kinds of videos are inherently more rewatchable because of their briefness or non uniqueness. the video that started the controversy was a kind of video that can’t be rewatched as easily and covers a unique topic like the “world’s densest city”. it’s not as though it was an installment in a longer series about that city or a funny moments video that is replaceable
The argument Brian makes is the same as telling a artist that you are paying them in "getting their name out". XqCs stream just seen the entire video in full with no one talking over it. Why would they go to the original? The chance I go to a new channel because of a react channel is maybe 2% and even then it is probably just to read the comments which gives no watch time to the channel which is what youtube tracks
Nogla blessing himself before eating in the factor sponsorship was so cute and wholesome. Was raised catholic, and i still do it sometimes before eating, especially on a bad day.
MauLer and co said it best “don’t just sit there for ten minutes adding nothing and you’re fine.” You guys talk, you make jokes and all sorts of observations. XQC has multiple videos where he just sits there with no verbal reaction or discussion.
It's why I like MauLer and the efap podcast when they talked about the XQC incident they gave a ton of good points on why it's an issue and that reacting content isn't an issue. It's the intentions behind the reaction.
What does it add?
Is there anything your gonna say or do that makes the video interesting?
To add to the react discussion, there's a big difference between what you guys do and what people like xQc or Hasan do.
To use the latter as an example. Hasan did something very similar to a video belonging to a TH-camr called JayExci, where he played the video in it's entirety, fecked off a minute into the video, and didn't return until the end of the video.
What makes this worse is that, on top of adding nothing transformative, he didn't even credit Jay. In fact as soon as it got to the part where Jay was advertising his channel and other videos, Hasan quickly began speaking over the video and clicked off of it.
So Jay didn't benefit in anyway from that.
Wildcat's counter at the end of that whole section was one hell of a strawman. "They can't prove you benefitted from xQc's "reaction", but you can't prove that you didn't. Therefore you're still wrong."
What make you guys different is that you add your own commentary and jokes and stories ON TOP of watching memes and such. It's your personalities that keep us watching and enjoying.
So while, no, not all reaction channels are lazy, some genuinely are.
Same with review channels, you have some that put so much effort into being as unique and informative on a film, game, etc. as possible, and then you have half arsed ones whose content is basically "I liked that. I didn’t like that" with very little substance.
Apologies for the paragraphs, but a subject like this desverse nuance as opposed a simple "It's good/bad, and anyone that disagrees is wrong. End of story!" remark.
That “are you okay??” Was so genuine lmao Brian’s a real one for that 💜
brian is aging really fast now🧔🏻♂️
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The reason why he got so angry is because he posted the video just an hour later when he finished it. That's why it was such a big drama
The thing is, this isn't just a react channel. Sure, they react to stuff, but like they spend 5 minutes talking about stuff. So like 50% of the video is them discussing stuff like a podcast.
It still drives away viewers from the original content. There's no excuses to these type of videos. They're lazy and parasitic.
I like watching this channel when I workout because I don’t have to focus on anything other than what terroriser and nogla say.
Neo put effort into making an hour long informal video and uploading it to youtube, which would take upmost to a week to make (as example).
XQC in the other hand watches the entire video on stream with thousands of viewers, making revenue off it without any kind of effort.
Do you see why people do not like react channels/ streamers reacting to videos?
To put it in even clearer context.
They wouldn't stick a Disney movie on and go afk for 20 minutes, because Disney would sue the shit out of them so hard. And they know they'd lose because they're in the wrong.
They know they're in the wrong about the smaller creators too, they don't care because they know there'll be no consequence.
xqc got that many views with his video that the original video wasn't able to go into the algorithm.
@@epsleonhonestly if someone reacted to one of brines videos and did what xqc did I don’t think he’d be to happy about it
Xqc sits there watching full 20min videos just sitting there eating and not talking. It’s very different from this.
You got to think about the algorithm when it comes to react videos. If you want to react video of someone’s original content, you won’t get more original content like that recommended to you. You’ll get more react content recommend to you so it hurts original creators a lot. Also if big TH-camrs upload react content where they are really not doing much to “change” it they’re pretty much just making free money. And if you think the original creator can claim a video and all the profit made from it, you’d be wrong. In order to claim a video for its profit, you need to have a TH-cam content manager account which is something that is only given primarily to big studios like Disney. When it comes to streaming react content that seems fine, but when you react to a video and then upload it to TH-cam, without really changing much to it or adding much to it, it’s pretty much stealing Contin. Yes, it can give them some exposure, but most of the time people are not gonna go to watch the original video or go to the original content creator. If you upload or react video and you’re adding to it by giving your own opinions on certain things, giving more insight, or just telling some personal stories or telling jokes seems that’s fine. But if you react to a video and kind of just sit there in silence, and not really do anything and upload it. You’re pretty much stealing content.
The TH-camrs that are getting stolen from can still use the copyright strikes to prevent the bigger TH-camr from earning money from the stolen content though. So even if the smaller TH-camr can't get back the money, they can at least stop the thief from taking more
False swipe is that pokemon move that always leaves them with at least 1hp
When it comes to reaction videos, people clowned on Akasan for leaving while the video played yet now people are defending XQC for doing the same thing…because he’s XQC. I mean, sure XQC is a big streamer and playing the video in front of his audience could give the channel a big bump but it still has to be transformative, right? There are reaction channels that have to really be carful how much of the video they show or have to pause the video and talk to make the video fair use. Of course Terroriser isn’t gonna give a shit, cause he already made his money so I’m assuming he has nothing to worry about and nothing really to gain from XQC reacting to his videos. It just sets a bad precedent to just let the video play while you’re not reacting to it while other react channels have to walk on eggshells.
It's not a bad precedent, it's theft. It's basically just reuploading someone else's content without permission. If you aren't adding to that content, then you can't legally use it or earn money from it. It's for exactly times like this that TH-cam has it's copyright strike system.
@@MorganSaph Problem is that YT’s copyright system is broken and even if XQC gets hit with one, he’ll most likely beat it cause he’s a big streamer.
@@GunthersLoyalSoldier1307 nah uh, not when there's tons of youtubers going against him.
Just cuz he's popular, had alot of money and 1million subs or whatever.
But when it comes down to top tier youtubers and support for the fair use argument and copyright law.
Asmongold, TheActMan great examples of guys who literally destroyed QuantumTV
You guys didn't forget about the QuantumTV incidient?
Even if QuantumTV isn't a big content creator, XQC broken fair use and copyright law of youtube. His winning the argument won't go well in actual court.
When TheActMan and Asmongold and EFAP podcast Mooler and everyone else on youtube who supports the youtube policies brings him down. Doesn't matter how much support XQC gets.
Did you watch the XQC vs Ethan debate? XQC got hit hard and lost credibility and face by admitting everything and saying some of the dumbest crap against Ethan who proved every single point against XQC along side having evidence from original content creator that XQC stole from.
I love how u can just notice how Brian is slyly reading the script by the Sponsor 😅
Just leaving a video sitting there and not reacting at all is pretty much the same as reuploading it. What xqc did was unethical. What you guys do is transformative. I don't agree with your points but I do understand them, and I like your content.
Tyler got cooked on Twitter cause of the react thing lmao
I loved Calippo shots, the only downside was that it always got frozen and stuck on the lid
I think what makes you guys different from people like xqc is the fact that you guys actually add to the content by actually REACTING to the vid/meme/etc, as well as adding your own thoughts, sharing a similar experience you had, joking and telling stories between the tik tok videos. You're adding your own content to the original so it counts as transformative or fair use. Xqc and others like him have a tendency to just silently watch the video which is basically just stealing content at that point.
Tldr: What you guys do is great, keep it up 👍
Nogla: "what candy do you remember from your childhood?"
Me: "i remember it being affordable"
I remember when I could buy 2 cola bottles and some chips without pretty much wasting my monthly allowance
It would be cool if both Nogla and Brian, or at the very least, either of you to post your workout routines and or progress if you have them. Love the videos btw!
Your channel is the only one that I don't skip the sponsored content bc its too funny
Brian with the brain dead take 💀
Kinda gets annoying with him saying 'I don't give a care'.
We get it, you don't care -- but your sentiment isn't really shared with other smaller youtubers who actually PUTS EFFORT in their content. It's never a guarentee that they'll get new viewers from an influencer reacting to their video.
They're losing out on potential viewership by having a reactor watch their video and having THEIR audience react with him them. You get a single view from the reactor watching your video, sure, but the potential viewership in that video is wasted since the reactor's audience got a full video to watch.
It's now a flip of a coin whether they'll subscribe to your channel and watch more, or not; I won't deny that there's good in having your video exposed by an influencer to a broader audience, but that comes at the cost of RESPECTFULLY watching the video and contacting the creator if you can watch it first. The disrespect you can feel when a reactor walks away and leaves your video running for their audience is very miffy -- another example of losing on potential viewership.
Not that Terroriser knows that. Love the guy still, but his opinions really leave much to be desired.
Never forget that he thought water needed to "inherish nutrients" in your body on that one video where Nogla ate before recording.
@@killshot314 yeah I agree with you, but I think from brian's pov. He seems to have gain success all through exposure and by playing with different people so he thinks that the same can be applied for reaction channels etc.
@@vinniefabian6816 Yeah, he has a different perspective that doesn't reslly jive with others own point of view. It's good to keep an open perspective on things
Love that you enjoyed Apollo the grey parrot. If you want more parrot clips, I recommend gizmo: far more cheekier lol
XQC showcasing the video on his stream gets him a lot of views, but him tweeting about it and causing the drama gets him even more views
Fans of individual vanoss crew members were introduced, and began following the other members of the vanoss crew because of how everyone reacted to, engaged with and conversed with eachother.
Most verbal interactions between people are reactionary responses. Laughing, acknowledging, criticising etc, are all reactive interactions.
To be prevented from reacting is to prevent people from interacting with eachother.
10ish years down the line, i dont even remember which vanoss crew member i started watching first, but because of who ever it was, i watch alot of the crews channels, even with the seperation of interests.....which is only a natural thing to occur, panda didnt want to be angry, being angry is stressful and exhausting, i know that first hand, his seperation from many games didnt phase me in the slightest, im happy he did what was best for him, he still has the same humour and personality, the thing i enjoy watching.
Vanoss, diving more into his career and passion, its inspiring, and honestly he went back to his roots, music was how he started, and the direction he wanted to go.
And then we have the moments where everyone comes together and pisses eachother off, laughs at eachother, insults eachother and we get the classic hilarious crew we all love.
Love you guys from Egypt 🇪🇬!
Meanwhile Tyler does reaction videos with Panda 😂
4:14 Nogla, I'm glad you understood the context, but that's not resident evil, that's Silent hill 2.
@@skeleglitchgaming was looking for this, thank you
Love how the Moon Landing conpiracy nuts always ask "how come we never went back to the moon?"
We did, like... five times.
I'd rather have reaction channels that incorporate or adding something onto it that it makes the reaction channel sort of transformative one, such as Nogla & Terroriser's Reaction channel. It's like, they are learning to what they are watching/reacting to, as well as the audience were also learning (it doesnt have to be educational) from them.
There are a lot of reaction channels that only do "React". Saying commentaries like "Wow", "Woah!", etc. Doesn't really add up to the content. There are also reaction channels thay literally reuse the same clips then slap their face on it doing smiles or just stare onto the camera. I think that's what Tyler is trying to call out. Those are the kind of reaction content that are cringey and useless
It's crazy how that guy says that, when it's literally us who makes this a miserable world.
I half expected this to be Nogla and Brian to just leave the room for the rest of the episode lmao
Nogla, there were 9 moon missions, 12 Americans walked on it.
Still can't get over the use of "NTR" as a discount code for Factor 😂
Someone else that realises as well
The whole react drama is basically “I want money you took my money” 😂
I personal believe that react content is fine as long as you properly credit the video. I do find it scummy when react channels blur out the @ handle on TikTok videos
The reason why we haven’t been back to the moon is because it’s literally just a rock. There’s nothing more to study, it’s just a rock.
StarAI got AI David and Brine to sing Danny Boy!! Yall need to listen to it!!
To travel to the moon again would cost an insane amount of money, resources, time, effort, and energy and still involves very high risks. It's just not worth it to expend all of that for that little we would gain from it comparatively
I'm definitely going to have to disagree with Terroriser here. Having your video being broadcast by a streamer does not always equal more views for the original uploader. For instance, if I saw a streamer watch an entire TH-cam documentary with little constructive commentary, what reason would there be to watch it again on the original channel? The streamer is essentially profiting off the creator's hard work and leaving them with nothing but "exposure".
I'll give you an example. I never heard of daily dose of internet before xqc reacted to him. I watched a couple of reacts and then started to watch daily dose's content regularly. So for 10 react videos that he lost views on, he gained an active subscriber. It doesn't happen with every channel that streamers react to but the exposure is worth more than raw views in my opinion
biggest crime here is calling silent hill 2 resident evil
DarkViperAU has actual good points on the react topic, you guys should watch the series he made, maybe react but give your thoughts and transform it but overall i strongly agree that the main issue with react channels like xqc and hasan is that their audience isnt gonna go to youtube to watch more cause they can watch videos that the streamer plays and the streamer is live for 6+ hours at a time
The pokemon you beat until 3 hp, poisoned it, and left it paralyzed 😂
Died inside when Nogla called Silent hill resident evil
Wildcat being the southern white mascot of the channel has soured.. Guy doesn’t know how to take it, but can sure dish it out in his lamborghini.
The pokemon move is false swipe. I personally put it on my Hawlucha :)
Also hold back. Same exact move with a different name. No idea why but it also exists.
Of course the people that make money from reaction videos aren't gonna be against it.
Lmao you know it’s fake when Mr.Nogla eats green vegetables.. I remember he hates them and would rather eat candy instead 😂😂 1:26
The b.s paid in exposure excuse. I bet you guys think that unpaid internships are ok because you get paid in experience right?
This channel is part podcast part react, which I really enjoy. Getting to see you guys in a more relaxed, conversational setting where you can talk about your lives, the history of the group, and current events is both creative and extremely entertaining. Not cringe at all
This is a really difficult subject to understand what is right and what is wrong on TH-cam. I think the way that you guys and Scott and Anthony react where you pause the video and incorporate your own stories and ideas, and banter with one another in a more commentary sort of way is much different than a lot of the twitch streamers making absolute bank by having to literally sit there and watch videos all day. I don't really have a problem with people like XQC who also plays games and clearly has created this character online but I see guys like Kai and Adin ross just press go live and have to do absolutely nothing to gain a ridiculous amount of viewership and money and it really does seem like a cop out. There's no hard work or really effort of any kind going in to those streams. On top of that, I can see why someone would get upset just having there video played on one of these "react streams" realizing how little effort the reactor had to do watching their video, sure they could gain audience and viewership, but I bet it's nowhere near the amount of money that these streamers are making just from watching their video. A feel everyone has mixed opinions on this but I could definitely see copyright issues in the future reacting to other peoples content much like music. I think ye lads are still doing great tho, the react channel is fun, and edgy, and rather than just watching clips yall add so much to the vid, keep it up!
I imagine theres phones and Nogla would spend his weekly phone call to hell catching up with Brian.
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@@antirickrollcard1497 but I didnt listen
I remember years ago in Canada, there would be tiny cups of ice cream with surprisingly alot of icecream. There would be a plastic lid and stuck to the underside was a tiny spoon that would snap off. It was half the size of the cup and the cup was never big enough to fit a child's hand in.
The conversation about reacting is eerily reminding me of a situation that happened recently enough with MatPat and this guy named Spectre.
Brian's take on react content is sadly pretty delusional, but I guess that's how average youtube consensus still is today
Yeah, just because they are bigger channels doesn't mean it gives them the right to stream fully another creators work. That is just stealing.
It kinda is, kinda isn't. Random tiktok video reacts like this video aren't harmful at all, however when someone is reacting to a high quality production like lemmino, it'll just steal views from them when it goes into the recommended of the people that watched it through the reactor, especially if it's on the same platform like youtube. I don't think it's very unethical however to react to year old videos or older because they've already completed their spin in youtube recs.
21:54 **me watching this while creating my 10th fallout 4 character** also the phrase “it doesn’t change the way i shit and piss” is amazing
Never accept exposure, only accept money. He didn't leave "for a little while" he left for ten minutes.
Wildcat is the lowest of all you Vanoss crew anyway
This is definitely the hardest video to watch.
It's crazy how most of our discontinued childhood stuff in America is back now. I hope the same happens to you as well guys!
9:03 Thank you for making this statement. Too many people buy birds (especially bigger birds) thinking its all fun and games bc they see their cuddly side on the internet, and not the cost, destructiveness, loudness or the behaviour problems, to name a few, that come with owning a bird.
People forget birds are flying toddlers - that includes the temper tantrums!
Warning: this comment is kind of long... sorry about that.
Anyway, I have to disagree with this perspective about the reaction stuff. Just because a popular guy reacted to your video doesn't mean your channel is gonna suddenly get popular. It doesn't even mean the video itself is going to do any better. In fact, it might make the video do worse since a lot of people might end up watching the popular guy's reaction video instead of the original video itself, especially if the former is practically identical to the latter. A lot of views (and the revenue that comes from it) that could have gone to the original creator (they guy who put in all of the time and effort) instead goes to the popular youtuber who did nothing but sit there and eat his chicken nuggets (if he was even there at all).
When it comes to brand deals, those are cooperative efforts. It's essentially a trade. One side pays the other to present their brand, and their brand gets promoted in return. Both sides benefit, and both sides consented to the deal. With react content (specifically those like xQc's) it's honestly more like theft. One side takes the work of another, presents it to their audience (getting profit from their views) without transforming the content, crediting the creator, and/or getting consent from them. The most the other side gets is a potential benefit. Not a guaranteed profit. A potential, theoretical benefit that you can't even prove without confirmation from the creator himself.
Also, if you don't have anything to say about the video your watching, whether it be out of unfamiliarity with the topic or otherwise, then don't stream it. Just don't stream it. It's as simple as that. Stream something else. Stream something that you actually have knowledge on or that you have something to say about. Something you can actually transform. And you ESPECIALLY shouldn't stream a random person's video when you aren't even there! If you have to leave, for whatever reason, put on one of your own videos, or a compilation of your best moments. You could even try making a cool 'Be Right Back' screen.
Also, also, to address Tyler's response to Neo's tweet with the graph, I have to say that his argument is kind of... weak. Neo never suggested that xQc's stream would have decreased his viewership. He was only countering the argument that it would have increased it. Tyler's response is to an argument that Neo didn't even make. Strawman or whataboutism, take your pick, but it's not a good counter to Neo's tweet.
My main point is that it's just unethical in general to take someone else's work without adding anything to it (especially without consent). Even if it did bolster the original video and the creator, it's not a guaranteed result. Just because one guy got a bump (however much it may be), does not mean the same will be true every time this happens. It's not consistent, and it's not a good excuse for online theft.
Now, I'm not saying that ALL reaction videos are theft. In fact, this conversation can easily be avoided if the reaction content in question is actually transformative. If it actually adds something to original. If it brings insight, commentary, or even debate. Be transformative (and credit the original creator), and you won't have this problem. It's that simple. Fortunately, I feel that this channel succeeds in doing that, at least to a greater extent than morons like xQc and Hasan. Of course, that might be because you guys react more to 10 second memes than you do to hour-long documentaries on the JFK assassination. But, yet again, you guys would still probably be better at that than xQc or Hasan.
P.S., sorry for the long comment. I just felt like getting this out there. If anyone actually read that wall of text, and enjoyed doing so, I suggest checking out the podcast "Every Frame A Pause" (or EFAP for short). They mostly talk about movies, tv shows, and video games, but they have a few episodes discussing Hasan, xQc, and the debate over react content, and they do it with a lot more coherency than how I just did it. Fair warning, though, their podcasts tend to get... long (it's kind of their brand).
what i remember about my childhood candy?
it was cheap , hard , with a distinctive fake flavor and i would spend every last coin on it and now i would pay double or even triple to get what was discontinued because that was the candy i would enjoy with my friends in the hot summer days
Yes, the Irish gentlemen who we watch tell stories and see funny internet shorts. I tip my monocle from my tea for ye
People say react channels don’t add much but noglas face when the kid got hit with the wiffle ball was hilarious
"The bump" does not exist, react content for full length videos is bad, however react content to memes imo is better as it just doesn't matter as much.
React content to big and important videos is just scummy and basically stealing.
It's not about the views from a react streamer going to the person who created that one video, it's about the views that are basically stolen by the extremely low effort content going to something better. It is inarguable that TH-cam would be a better platform without react "content"
@@SadToffeeAnd those reactors get revenue from those videos as well.
"Alot of wrist control in both"
Don't forget the strokes, thats very important in both sports too
I'm not going to pretend I know enough to claim to be an expert on the subject, although I do have a distaste for those that leech off others. So with reaction content there's a right way to meaningfully add to someone else's work and change it in a way that doesn't outright make a market substitute of said video on TH-cam then yeah it should be fine (like reacting to things that could be watched multiple times like memes or music videos). However, the problem arises when people (xqc, hasan, etc.) watch tons of original videos a day without adding enough meaningful commentary to make something that isn't a market substitute that end up flooding the yt market leeching off the hard work of others. It's not the biggest injustice in the world but it's just scummy that people will do nothing but take the work of others to line their pockets. 🤷♂
The fact that brian asked if nogla was okay when nogla said the thing abt depression n goin out had me cryin-- brian was sincere 🥹
Brian no you can't just leave during a stream like xqc
Xqc: "damn thats crazy"
Sssniperwolf: "omg no way"
Pokimaine: "wow"
This channel, moist cr1tical aka penguinz0, and asmophgold ( I may have butchered his name): adding personal stories, comedy, commentary, some level of conversation and back and forth.
penguinz0 reactions is the funniest lol. He can watch the most boring video and still make it funny
I wonder if noglas daughter will tells people she's half nogla
As someone who lives in Sweden, I remember some of those discontinued food items/ childhood candy
Nogla and Terroriser reacting is way better than xQc "reacting".
To me, as a non-creator, all that matters is entertainment. Some reactors are very entertaining. The reason why react channels and content has a market is the same reason why you think to yourself "I should show my mate this video" when you see something funny.
There is value in being able to share a laugh with someone. It feels good to know that your sense of humor is shared by others, and when you have inlfuencers or internet personalities that a lot of people enjoy watching anyways, getting to see them enjoy something you did as well emulates a level of closeness that not many people can have on a daily basis.
It's, of course, prudent to point put that this isn't genuine. And that at the end of the day, the creators/reactors you watch are absolutely strangers to you. You shouldn't consider them actual friends, and it's important to understand and maintain that distance.
Where all of this becomes an issue is money. If money wasn't involved, I doubt many people would have a stick in this argument. Personally, I'm of them opinion that it is YOUR responsibility as a viewer to make sure that you support the creators you enjoy. Even if you first see their video on a react channel, make sure you go to their actual channel and support them with a view and/or comment.
The big argument in today's economy is just offloading the frustration creators have with viewer laziness and insatiable thirst for constant new content onto reactors. If viewers didn their due diligence of supporting the creators they liked, this wouldn't even be an issue.
But since questioning your viewers is seen as taboo, creators have to find a new object to places their frustrations on. And they take to name-calling and accusations of theft over something that is essentially an issue with viewer retention and laziness.