Britain moves towards Anglosphere federation
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London is considering an #Anglophone #Federation that includes Canada, Australia, New Zealand, and the United Kingdom. The potential is enormous, but can it work?
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Got it👍
Ok
Enlightening and educational as always. I could expect no less.
Thanks 👍
The arguments against the free trade zone working are very sound and I commend you for the good research.
Again you miss the point. CANZUK does and will not have to be a federation.
The one elephant in the room CaspianReport misses is financial free zone along with a free trade zone.
Why is this crucial?
The City of London is the second largest stock and financial market on earth.
Its financial global reach is impressive.
Under CANZUCK the combined weight of City of London, Toronto, Sydney and Auckland would displace Wall Street as the number one stock and financial hub.
No air, land or sea necessary in a cyber digital world for this to happen.
Along with free movement of professional workers interoperability of such a free financial zone is assured.
This the lynch pin on why it will work and CANZUCK know this implicitly.
CaspianReport it would seem does not.
UK bootycalls three ex-girlfriends at the same time.
more like calling out 3 sons.
@@steelnerve5683 three sons you ignored for fifty years
@@julianshepherd2038 better than standing alone against China, though
Spain: Hold my black book
@@julianshepherd2038 Because we were legally required to by the EU. Australian and NZ farming products used to have a big market in the UK, but that changed with the EU due to the tariffs created for French farmers.
I'm English but I've spent a lot of time in Oz and spoken to aussies and kiwis about it. In this video he presents CANZUK as some sort of Empire 2.0, but in reality we all know the USA is the dominant global power. Britain is different now, and CANZUK would have to be about shared values, such as individualism, liberty, etc.
It's also not true that we are returning only due to Brexit; one of the main things about Brexit is we have completely different attitudes to many European countries, as opposed to Anglophone countries.
Apparently Chad, Uganda, Nigeria, Tanzania and Sudan are thinking of federating, but they are having difficulty coming up with an acronym.
🤣😂🤣😂🤣
S.U.N T.Chad
@@rocci99 Without Chad, this would be NUTS
Chad NUTS
Gentlemen, this made my day.
* ”getting the boys back together” 1930 achievement unlocked.
And your forgetting one thing . USA would never allow our older cousin to take away control of our Step brother Canada. UK had it's time in the Sun . No my friend this is ur rebellious younger cousin( USA) time to shine . But we are all one big dysfunctional, powerful family. The USA UK, Can , Aussies
What Anschluss but with Britain? Wait they are the English they don’t think of other people’s as Humans, it is more like: „get back ere, you bloody criminals“.
@@bobbyirish7 don’t want to burst your bubble, but England is the Alzheimer’s plagued Father of all your states. Granted the USA is more like a step bro since it’s Mother was the French Revolution, but there is still way more Brit in you all than you think. Besides I don’t think Canada thinks that being dominated by America is all that great since laz faire capitalism has a lot of problems in the oligopoly department, which will have big consequences for any developer Nation if they get bought or out competed by Chinese State backed companies.
*laughs in Rhine capitalism*
This could never happen to any country following my kind of ideology, never.
*Chinese buying Greece in the background, eyeing Volkswagen greedily*
@@cedrickropp no my friend our revolution started at least 10 years before the french. In fact we recieved money from king Louis ( I believe) to help fund our beautiful rebellion then when the French thought we could actually win against British, and only when they thought we could win . After I believe the battle of Saratoga ( I could be wrong on the actual battle but definitely after a crushing loss to the Patriots) the french sent a few thousand troops after the American victory the French King then loaned us Money as a young nation . In fact he funded his own downfall. So since soon after the french reading about the beautiful American victory started there revolution. So my friend it us the USA that is the birthplace of self governing and rebellion . And I'm also right on my first reply. And yes we are one big dysfunctional family . Including our Step brothers the Canucks.
@@bobbyirish7 I hear you but Biden is about to shift the balance of power east. American society has hit peak development and leftists aren’t happy so they will pick your dream apart until it’s hell.
As an Aussie I want this to happen because these countries are family
could be cool but I refuse to allow imports of frikin marmite. We will go to war over this
Give bank our 45t$
@@monikadcosta5375 your 45 trillion? The Indian subcontinent was divided by different kingdoms and ports controlled by various colonial powers it was anyone's game. It's quite normal for countries to extract wealth from their territories New Zealand for example was primarily an agrarian society supply food directly to the UK where Britian accumulated most the profit even after NZ became independent. The Raj was no different you can't exactly steal wealth from your own empire.
@@davidmccarroll2280 45 t was not meant for British lavish life and funding NZ and Australia welfare,it was all tax money supposed to be reinvested into India
@@monikadcosta5375 It's a bit late for that sort of money Britian doesn't have that amount currently and India is making up for it in high economic growth. Things are much better in India than what they were in 1947 any Indians currently live in the Anglosphere so maybe drop the anglophobia that I see from your countrymen. That 45t wasn't relevant to this video in the first place dunno why you brought it up
Spain : **WRITE THAT DOWN WRITE THAT DOWN!**
Do u mean a unification of Spanish speaking countries? :D
Cool idea, but what binds CANZUK is a long history of individual rights. At the same time Americans were fighting for the right to be represented in parliament the Spanish king could raise taxes at will. They have no unity.
Fun fact Spain actually proposed the same idea very similar to "empire federation" some years before it collapsed, but it didnt get anywhere.
There already is one of these for Latin American countries. The Union of South American Nations
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_of_South_American_Nations
@@Jason-fm4my yeah but how is a Dicatorship in Venezuala gonna work with a democracy like Brazil? Just always got the feeling people from South America are about getting by and doing the best they can, not really buying into a cultural identity for anything other than the fun parts.
As an Australian.
For this to work. Canada needs to work on its cricket team.
we'll try but we put most of our budjet on tennis and hockey soooo lolo
Is it a Joke, only Football i. e Soccer ⚽ ⚽ can Unite the Whole World and so called Ex Britani imperialism
@@bajirao2737 all of these countries are great at cricket except for Canada.
@@mihangelap-williams9871 don't be so negative dude, power projection analysis sees the UK remaining in the top ten well into the distant future.
@The Alchemist lmao I love Indian people.
Most CANZUK supporters would rather just have free trade and free movement than a "federation", which I highly doubt there's any real public support for
Exactly! I like shirvan and what he does but he do be making the title sound like the UK is going down an imperial focus tree on hoi 4
Yeah, canzuk won't federalize. Even the canzuk lobbyist didn't even mention it.
I'm Canadian and support Canzuk.
the point he is making is that a loose free trade agreement wouldn't work, it would need to be highly centralised to stand a chance and even if it did that it would have the American navy hanging over it like the sword of Damocles
@@Thought_Processing_ I, and many others don't really mind if CANZUK never becomes a global power. My primary motivation is to be able to visit the other countries
I'm Australian and support CANZUK, but federation is not even part of the discussion afaik. Military agreements, yes. Trade agreements, yes. Free movement, yes. Even some law harmonization could work. But not federation.
I'm from the UK, I will support CANZUK
Do you like the USA and Americans?
@@TheIceman567 yes haha ofcourse!
@@MrBebop0 cool I’m American and I love the UK. In fact I live in England my fiancé is English and so too are my twin daughter just turned 2 months. First in my family to be born in Britain in over 200 years. Do you live in England if I may ask? 🇬🇧🤝🇺🇸
Is this a soft reboot of The Empire Strikes Back?
@Will H That was the “Falklands war” As everyone’s knows this, it was the headline of most newspapers the day it started. Also not long after the movie came out! NSW in Oz
It’s a complete farce....I’m Canadian. No such thing & Canada would never ever join a joke of a union.
@@nathanjackson1091 Thats only one man's opinion,.. I'd be in favour of it because it addresses all the "negatives" that the commentator spoke of in his video.
@@lph1106 I am another Canadian I am against this, and it is not talked about at all here.
this time empire faces powerful country like India , if anyone in UK even try imperialism again UK is going to be in big problem
I don't see any Canzuk union being a centralised, federal state, but a loose confederation, based on trade, free movement and co-operation between independant states with a common culture, language and economic direction. The idea that the "British empire" will be reborn or some such, is ridiculous.
I can imagine it becoming a trade Union such as NAFTA or ASEAN at least if this federal state wasn’t to work out
@@Alexm0321 I think such trade unions already exist, the UK already having applied for membership to, for example, the CPTPP is just such a trade union, including all of the Canzuk nations, bar the UK, but others aswell. It would be a small step from there to freedom of movement and such, with select parts of those trade unions.
The idea of a modern British Empire is just a buzz phrase remoaners use to stir up resentment
@@toffeecrisp2146 Canada will never join this canzuk crap. Canada already has all the trade deals we need...NAFTA, EU/CETA, TTP. Why tf would we join weak Britain? Definitely no to brits moving here.
@@nochatter7134 might want to tell your politicians that. It would seem to me, that you harbour anti British sentiment. Odd.
The fact remains, if the UK gains entry into the CPTPP, you'll be in a free trade union with the UK anyway.
As to freedom of movement, the standards of living are similar, shared language and there are plenty of field and industries, in both our countries, that would benefit from a shared labour pool.
But I suspect you don't much care about that.
I find it amusing that you showed so many of Viennas beautiful architecture, but AUSTRIA is a little bit different than Australia😏
Say that to the stock video service 🤣
I'd like to think it was a inside joke
True..😂😂
The guy does videos entirely about geopolitics and geographics, I'm 99% sure he knows the difference, probably just didn't want to use the same clip of the Syndey Opera House over and over again to get the point across to you visual learning rocks.
@Marcus-Aerilius Maximus perhaps you should be more philosophical
this can't happen quickly enough! 🇨🇦🇦🇺🇳🇿🇬🇧
The Empire Strikes Back
The only empire I see rising is China with the rising tensions between China and Taiwan, China is flying planes daily over Taiwanese skies. There’s actually a great analysis on the Taiwan-China conflict and the prospects of a Chinese invasion and Taiwanese independence: th-cam.com/video/yI0foMtF_oU/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=MyTake
@@drunkensailor3736 the original comment, its a hearts of iron 4 achievement reference
@Your Majesty, Scotland going independent is far from a certainty no matter how many times someone says that on the internet. Coupled with the assertion that Russia would join in the EU is laughable.
Its colonization time. Long Live the Queen with its Redcoats
@@James-ip8xs they’ve been polling at over 55% support for months now. It’s a matter of when not if.
I just broke up with Europe. Let's have a relationship
Rebounds rarely last more than 6 months. It’s not you, it’s me.
......because we hated those hot topless Riviera women....and prefer dumpy with bad teeth.....
BOOTY CALL
I feel like the 3 countries are more like the UKs children
Gringo must unite!!
UK: "I'm your father"
US: "Noooooooooo"
Very good one! Lol...
Yeah like in Star wars! I'm you're father nooooo! 🏴🇬🇧👍
The war of independence was English settlers fighting against a German speaking king using large numbers of German mercenaries. One more victory for Englishman against the huns
@Noah Pritchett The way things are going most people will be ethnically from africa and latin countries and white people of usa will be taking a knee in front of them.
@@dermotjones8753 Dafuq
Scotland and Quebec: Interesting...
Scotland voted to remain in the U.K. and I don’t see any claims for an independent Quebec being taken seriously
@@closethedoornow7538 Scotland voted to remain in a UK that was part of the EU,UK is out, so new referendum is a must.
@@errormatrix4159 well Scotland on its own would not qualify for EU membership, they want net contributors now more than ever since they lost the U.K.s income.
@@closethedoornow7538 Of course it would, and UK due to free trade in EU markets, gained much more than it spent with the whole EU deal.
EU doesn´t need anyone else,surely not England(Scotland wats out,UK is finished) blocking the union at every turn, if ever it becomes a Federation(What UK dreaded) with a degree of common infraestructures,it will become together with Japan the richest place in the planet.
@@errormatrix4159 your living in a dream world, the EU is doomed to fail, it’s not like the USA that shares a common language and values.
I can see CANZUK succeeding as a loose agreement, free movement and trade with some security/intelligence cooperation.
As an Australian i can't see it succeeding as a political union, for example theres a gulf between Aust and NZ regarding China and the US.
It would probably work only as what the EU should have been - a common market with free movement of citizens, and a security/defense/mutual support alliance, but not a superstate with one central government.
Btw, the people of these countries already are some of the largest migrant communities in prospective member states.
As a Brit from England, and a Brexit voter, I 100% agree. We just got free of a distant unaccountable government, we don't need another one. Free movement, free trade and common defense and intelligence with loose political integration. That sounds about good to me.
Thankfully no-one is actually proposing a political union, just free trade, easier movement to making it easier to work in each others countries (provided you are a citizen and have no criminal record), and closer military cooperation, (that would give NZ, Aust and Canada a permanent voice on the NATO security council, so would be quite beneficial for them in theory. But nobody is suggesting a parliament, national anthem or making all the countries follow the same laws...
@@snail-bait3229 Why did you vote Brexit?
agree, this as an American I support, but, I can't see this happening without some level of the US involved. Not as a full member, but as an ally/partner for sure. The US is a part of the Anglosphere, much to the chagrin of some of our cousins who perhaps resent the US as a former colony who succeeded in rebelling and becoming a superpower. We already have our military and intelligence alliances that will make creating such a thing like CANZUK impossible without the US being involved. That loose agreement is already there, but, the US is involved in that loose agreement (ANZUS, NORAD, NATO, 5 Eyes, etc)
When Brits took their island and sailed away I was wondering "where are they sailing to?", now I know "to the Anglosphere" ;)
Girls: he didn't even cry at titanic, do men even have feelings?
Men:
New Zealand and Australia will simply go to whoever can secure their independence and economical interests. Legislative dominion will not be given; why should we join a union with London at the head?
It was one of the reasons why we moved away from Britain in the first place during the 20th century. It just doesn’t make any sense for London to be the priority.
@Nathan Byrne just playing devils advocate here, but what if Austrailia's relationship with China turns ugly? Being Canadian, I know how the CCP can turn unreasonably hostile in an instant. Would Austrialia have a smarter play than CANZUK in that scenario?
@@Grimloxz I can fully understand why the UK would want to, but why would any of the other countries want anything more than a trade deal with the UK? Seems nonsense to me and highlights British exceptionalism.
@@skyaudi7416 the city of london control every country including China, Russia and the USA... Australia will be no different
This country will be named Four Eyes
🤣
And like previously in history, It will lead four-eyes(forrays) into other countries
How does one pronouce iiii?
@@np4029 "Four" but it's usually spelt "iv"
🤓
We must get it done ✔️ 🇦🇺
-Leave the EU because of "independence"
- Copy the EU.
The UK wanted to dominate but wasnt able to so they bailed.
@@KingAgniKai this is also true. They want English style EU.
It’s not easy tho
Canzuk isn't nearly going to be as centrilized as the EU, canzuk is just free movement and free trade. There won't be a parliment like the EU.
EU copied UK. Have you not heard of the British empire ?lol
The issue is far complicated than the issue of "Independence".
Shirvan next week: So, the Caliphate is back
Well I mean there is a hotly contested Islamic separatism bill in France, that could be rather far reaching. There's actually a great analysis on this and Macron’s general authoritarian turn: th-cam.com/video/rO-9RASw01U/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=MyTake
@I sold my wife for internet connection STOP spamming these advertisements everywhere. Thanks
@@drunkensailor3736 thanks for the insight mate. I'll check it out. Cheers
@@drunkensailor3736 Bruh no one cares about France.
@@lolasdm6959 lol. The irony.
It seems Empires never die they just become shadows upon the world.
I like this, is this a quote from somewhere or an Ed Wo original?
As bad as it sounds,me being a civilian...it's possibly the only thing that has kept this world from completely becoming extinct...a mass plan of action before we with the collectively destroy it with all our creations,and devices,possibly with those very things we created,doing it in a controlled way...rather than,if we naiveley used it,but became extinct...after all, God did chose man as his temple...he does say he uses the evil for his time of wrath
The guy that made this video is a Azerbaijan communist and he hates UK,CA,AU,NZ because all 4 country's went to war with Azerbaijan communist in 1918-1920.. Look CANZUK will be the best thing that happen to these 4 country's. The communist hate CANZUK and are trying to stop it with proper gander video's.
not a fucking chance because Scotland will be leaving the UK this year ... the UK is finished
@@SaorAlba1970 I'm glad the MacArthur's left Scotland to become Aussie, (Yes MacArthur in me) You sound like you smoked one to many kippers. In history the Scottish can't work together they always fight. eg Campbell's and MacArthur don't kill each other in Australia they get married.
The US is a part of the Anglosphere so that's fine by me
A lot of Americans just try to pretend they're not
What American pretends they’re not apart of the Anglo-sphere?
@@noodlyappendage6729 Many Americans appear to have a serious disdain for Britain and try to suppress the fact that most elements that give the US it's identity were inherited from it's mother country.
@@noodlyappendage6729 many.
Earlier: "Maphilindo"
Now: "Canzuk"
Next: (in Ron Burgundy voice) "Planet Earth"
Looking at how separatism is spreading, I don't see it coming. If you United Korea can form, then and only then will World start to unite.
@@sankarsah the earth would only be united if an alien civilization from another planet tries to invade us.
Next Visegrád group
@@KyoushaPumpItUp or if there are enough humans living off world (in the rest of the system and perhaps other stars) that the identity of Earth becomes noticeable.
@@sankarsah Separatism? More like Pan-Nationalism. There may be identitarian separatism, but in the long run, race brothers would be huddling with each other. Why are Slavs looking up at Russia? Why is the Japanese far right seeking to compete China's dominance in the Asian stage? Why is ASEAN getting closer toward each other?
Pointing out that CANZUK could only exist with the grace of the US naval power is a pretty fun way of admitting the US is itself the world's imperial capitol.
@@steve-uo3lw Ofc, the US only wait to become a colony again and dance to the tune of westminster. What are you people taking?
US Naval power? Britannia rules the waves! Nimitz class carrier groups wouldn't stand a chance against the mighty 104 cannons of HMS Victory!
When you're so powerful that you can puppet another superpower lol
@@steve-uo3lw The US is also a declining empire with no more diplomatic legitimacy or reputation left. They're a sinking ship
It's also totally wrong. Caspian is totally overstating the significance of the US here
As an American this is like my four friends forming a squad without me
The 'problem' with adding the US into the group would be that it would just end up as US-dominated, thanks to the sheer economic and social weight the US has in comparison. One of the unsaid benefits of CANZUK would be boosting trade ties between themselves and thus decreasing economic reliance on the US, although all 4 would still have trade with the US as a major priority.
*sad american noises*
Sorry bud you had your chance, should not have thrown all the tea into the harbour. :)
@@soyentak5076 I agree. We were little shits back then lol. We wasted all that tea just like how we waste toilet paper then scramble to buy more. And wasting all the food but still getting fat. (roasting my fellow countrymen lulz)
Wait until your Australian ex leaves with the new hot Chinese guy.
I would be happy to welcome Australia, New Zealand, and the UK as Canada's newest provinces!
LOL
Canada? That country that just locked up a father for referring to his daughter as, “she?” Yeah I think we might be too good for you. Signed, Australia.
@@ddc2957 Pretty high and mighty coming from a country that was literally founded by criminals!
Miles, that’s a myth. But even if it were true, that was 250 years ago. Australia today is too good to be associated with a politically declining Canada.
lol. Canadian imperialism. Now, that would be something new.
OK, my take. I'm an Aussie with UK citizenship and live in neither country. I still follow Australian political developments closely and have heard nothing on this proposal in serious media or elsewhere from the Australian side about this. Furthermore, I get the idea that on the British side, it's nothing more than a fever dream of the Farragists and Brexit hard-liners. A little-remembered fact is that in 1973 when the UK threw it's lot in with the EEC, Australia lost preferential trade deals and began to re-orient it's trade to Asia. Now that the UK has left the EU, it has to be dreaming if it wants to give the UK a slice of this pie.
The UK, Australia, Canada, New Zealand, Japan, India, Vietnam, South Korea and more cannot defend themselves. The US has fallen and if the world has any chance of staying on equal ground against China and Russia they are going to have to unite and form CANZUK [and also tighten their ties with India, Japan, South Korea and everyone else].
I mean Canzuk has a very high support rate
Don't know ere your getting your news from in UK and Oz. Oz and NZ already have the very set of agreements that are being proposed for CANZUCK. That part is done.
Canada has already concluded an interim free trade agreement with UK late last year and Oz and NZ have concluded the first stage of free trade agreements with UK late last year.
Canada & UK will start a comprehensive free trade deal shortly and stage 2 of free trade deals between UK, Oz and NZ are about to start. It will be a long road yet the heavy machinery to make it happen are rolling.
@@jdheryos4910 Just to remind you that before 2019 it isn't even possible to fly from Aussie to UK without stopping at a 3rd country, and majority of technologies enabling it are foreign to CANZUK (UK is a significant minority though).
@@jdheryos4910 is still a long way to go and UK will always go with a feeble economic argument, without the UE to backup and their massive consumer population.
*sees Germany literally leading the EU*
UK: Hmmm
Thy can zuk mein Bratwurst.
@Metallus Zorax Habsburgers were Austrian. Hohenzollern were German.
U.K. and germany are extremely close allies these days, germany wouldn’t be soo foolish to turn back to nazism and colonise Europe again
@@leonardodavinci1140 The Habsburgs are Swiss/Alemannic
@@jbx- We move forward to Europeansocialism
Im pretty sure people are envisioning a common framework for trade, movement and cooperation with an emphasis on shared culture, not a fully blown federation
fr, seems like he's talking about a hoi4 focus tree more than reality
Though free-trade agreements won't really change to much. Just because it becomes cheaper to import from these countries, doesn't change they are on eac side of the globe from one another. Canda won't start importing British produce when the US is right down there. Australia might benefit from diversifying their trade depdendancy with China, but the UK won't start producing those goods.
These countries already have very close cultural, trade and movement links. Unless they move to a EU-style common market - which will entail giving up some sovereignty - there is really nowhere else for them to go. It will just be tinkering on the edges.
Canadians are culturally closest to the USA and in our values increasingly European. Why would we tie ourselves to a sinking island off Europe and a few distant islands in the south Pacific ?Surely it would make more sense to restore our historical colonial connection with the Caribbean. I think I will organize all the Snowbirds around CANCAR !
@@jrgenm.dsollie4849 We've traded with Britain even when they were in the EU. They're usually in the top 4-5 for us but have slipped in past few years now as they fade from relevancy (7th last I checked DFAT). We're negotiating an FTA with the EU to assist in diversification we're already in the CPTPP as well as you may know - Britain have applied to join that now. I'm not sure where that leaves individual negotiations with Britain re: trade. That's going to be difficult for us to do re: Agriculture and Britain's horrifically inflated view of itself and tendency to be feckless bullying twats and we've probably been putting our foot down (good). We certainly put our foot down over freedom of movement.
We need to collectively work to reduce our dependence on trading with China. Free trade and collective defense within an anglosphere would be a good way. It could include more than just these 5 countries.
Exactly. Throw in India, canvas the Commonwealth and we’re good to go. FYI this is already a defence/defense alliance (“Five Eyes”). Politics is more difficult but at a minimum insist on democratic values and institutions.
The problem is that the Anglosphere also drags rest of the West into their stupid trade war against China, and rather divides Europe than the Anglosphere. Another problem is that the most warmongering nation on the planet is part of the Anglosphere, and UK essentially works as their 51st state never turning against their master.
@@bevpotter9938 Free movement with one and a half billion Indians might be a bit of an issue.
CANZUK is CANZUK. There are only four countries not five. India is it's own civilisation. We aren't interested.
@@someguy3766 Blokes talking shite.
I think "alliance" is a far more accurate way to describe it -- not a "federation." It would be an alliance of sovereign countries.
@Air Conditioner CANZUK? No it is not already an alliance. It's a theoretical concept that hasn't yet been put into practice. You might be thinking of Five Eyes.
Yeah, This guy controlled the narrative o hard especially at the end of the video making a poor men's assumption on a lot of topics. He says it will bend the knee to the USA in Naval capabilities however with the 4th largest Navy on earth and most advanced Navy that simply isn't true. The United Kingdom, Australia, Canada and New Zealand have potential for more, The UK has two carriers with Australia and Canada both having the surface fleet to adopt carriers themselves if needed. Canada could adopt helicopter docks similar to the Canberra class and Australia has the Canberra class itself again there is enough surface fleet ships to enable this.
In theory and in practice they can moderate waters quite happily and easily. The USA has NO say in what goes on and CANZUK was never about Anglo unification hence why Ireland or USS isn't there but about Commonwealth countries uniting somewhat hence why Singapore, Malaysia and South Africa are options to be looked at, Singapore especially since their economy is almost t the right stage.
He acts like it needs to be a federation parliament??? The majority of the ideas don't need a federation parliament. It makes things more coercive but you can simply do subyearly meetings ie 6months to discuss changes in regards to tarrifs changes, immigration standards or defence and foreign policy outlook without needing that upper parliament. In fact you don't even need that 6 month meeting, You can simply contact the trade minister's for trade deals changes etc.
One of the worst interpretations of CANZUK ever
@@m1863m they are allies and have been forever think you are defining allies as something else
he is completely wrong its not a federation
The narrator seems to have overlooked that the UK, Canada, New Zealand & Australia all have the British Queen as our head of state in per our constitutional governments. He may be wise to took up Commonwealth countries on Google before he start yapping about something he knows nothing about!
Shirvan a couple months ago: after Brexit, this is the end of the road.
Britain: Fool, I am 4 Parallel Universes ahead of you.
I am sure they're going to be very successful in those parallel universes.
@@WestfaliaStuff Burn
@@WestfaliaStuff 😂 Good Roast ... 🔥
not a fucking chance because Scotland will be leaving the UK this year ... the UK is finished
@@SaorAlba1970 your still gonna have the monarch you know right? Also we have Wales
*Formal Anglosphere materializes*
Quebec: "Aight Imma head out"
Wish I could give this comment 10 thumbs up
Sorry, I'm mexican, I don't get it
Is it bc Quebec is more french?
@@ThePorschefan Not only "is it more French," Quebec has always been a giant pain in the ass for Canada because they view themselves as an irreconcilably different society (or "civilization" as Caspian Report would put it).
So a union based on a common English heritage would be intolerable to Quebecers.
This guy has a few vids on the subject if you're interested. th-cam.com/play/PLmoCLt24erd6AR_t60Pjb2fpPV47_rtNt.html
@@Matthew-cw3gn Cool, I'll give it a look. Sounds like Quebec is for Canada what Monterrey is for Mexico.
People from Mty seem to think they could be a successful independent nation, think they are superior, with the best colleges, best food, best sports teams, etc.
The rest of the country just cringes at them
@@ThePorschefan I wouldn't say that LOL After all they beat Man U (hated in England)
An alliance like this is essentially a long-term plan and would require all the member states to maintain policy commitments in an every rapidly changing world.
Canada can't join as they don't play cricket!
We aint gonna force you too build hockey rinks in the desert. We can compromise on that issue lol
we all play golf though!
They do
Lol
@Arup Ratan Mitra or rugby team!
Show me where CANZUK is supposed to be a federation, because the only person I see saying that is you. CANZUK is proposed as means to facilitate free trade, freedom of movement, and foreign policy coordination. That to me sounds like 4 independent nations who want to be closer allies and have no intention of becoming a global superpower.
Actually it's USA who's driving the initiative, rest are happily obliging.
@@arminius6506 Not saying your wrong, but do you have any sources? would be good to read more
@@nickwilson8119 no this is my own perception of the situation, USA needs a new counter weight to China to help keep the balance of power in favour of their West.
But there is no doubt that it seduces the Brits and many of them are on board.
But who am I??? Maybe I'm totally wrong 😉
Yeah its been told by many politicians from each nation they like CANZUK Alot and one of their reason for liking it is bc they are still and will always operate as their own sovereign nations
@@arminius6506 China is not a long term rival. Their economy isn't value added, they can't defend their sea lanes, they import their food because their arable land (which use 5x the industry standard in inputs) isn't enough to sustain their population, and they are dependant on exports because there isn't a domestic market for their own goods which is garunteed to remain true for the next 20 years because of their demographics. Not to mention their insane debt levels, subprime mortgage crisis on the horizon, and a population that has an average age older than the average age in the US. China is Enron on a country level.
With all honesty, as a Canadian, if policymakers can make a reasonable reason to institute a Empire 2.0, I will simply support it. Nothing is wrong for wanting a stronger Federation
As an American, Im wondering why we didnt get an invitation. Not that we need one anyway, well just crash the party if it comes to it.
@@ClassMRule I could possibly see the US being an associated member of the Union but at least half of the US would have a problem being a full member seeing how almost half of the US hates the UN
Probably because the US alone would be larger in population than all of CANZUK combined. That would have a significant influence on the politics of a CANZUKUS federation since the market and military power of the US would dominate. In effect, CANZUKUS would be a modified version of NATO.
The other point is that AUS NZ and CAN are still Commonwealth nations where the head of state is still the Queen of England.
We held a referendum in Australia some years ago to decide whether we should be a republic or stay a constitutional monarchy. Republicanism lost out that time, but as the population demographics continue to shift due to immigration, and the birth of citizens who have no ties to the old Empire, that margin will change in due course.
A federation of this sort would require a referendum and I don't really see this passing in Australia.
They are all unitary or federal constitutional monarchy’s. It would be much easier to mash em together
Canada would benefit greatly maybe even the most. Becoming the centre point of the country
Francophone Canada has left the chat.
Yeah no shit. We'll never let Canada flood us with anglophone immigrants here. Also Britain is not a good ally to have.
@@simlevesque Amigo the only place in quebec anglo immigrants go is Montreal. Saguenay would be just fine.
@@simlevesque The Crown allowed francophones to remain
@@davo1822 the opposite is true. Only montreal is really welcoming for mass anglophone immigration here.
@@simlevesque francophone just means you speak French right?
de nombreux Britanniques peuvent parler les deux langues.
So you’d also have francophone people coming too.
Sounds like the UK is inviting it's past colonies to become colonies.
It didn't invite India, Ireland or America lmao
@@KingAgniKai why would it? they would certainly reject it and make fun of Britain for inviting them in the first place
It’s a federation of equals nobody would suggest becoming an actual colony again
Not really, different age, different attitude. We have shared culture, shared interests and similar economies. It would be weird for us not to co-operate closely. The EU was an aberration, this a return to normal I think.
Yes and no. Canada has the potential to outdo the UK economically, as does Australia. Both have been growing twice as fast since WW2, mainly cause they attract more immigrants. They also have far greater land and natural resources.
Britain: Go CANZUK
Quebec: Hold my beer.
Nobody cares about what Quebec thinks. They’re always against everything, they don’t even want to be French, and the French don’t want them either.
If Canada would politically and legally recognize itself as a multinational federation, then Quebec wouldn't have to "complain" about his interests not being defended by the federal government.
What about failures of Meech Lake and Charlottetown Accords? If you would be part of a minority, you wouldn't have this opinion.
@The Alchemist if the various pollings are to be believed French Canadians are more in favour of CANZUK than us Brits are (as they should with the current state of geopolitics)
@The Alchemist ah my bad 👍
Quebec has 63% support for CANZUK.
I mean, considering that the UK might not even *be* the UK within a decade, seems like they better move quick to figure out how to pull this rabbit out of the hat!
Aso *really* not appreciating how much you're putting the RoI in red. They had a pretty messy breakup, and seem damn happy to stay in the EU for the moment.
RoI.. ? 🥔?
@@Dave-hu5hr Yeah, the Republic of Ireland. Currently at 26, and judging by current famine trends, potentially 32 counties.
@@matthewegan5281 Yea for the moment.
@@matthewegan5281 None of Ireland, North or South, were very impressed with Ursula von der Leyen, and now, not even the Germans, are impressed either. She was born in Brussel, of German parents, Ernst Albrecht was her father, who also had more than his fare share of political scandal's also :(
This is like a modern day British Empire but it’s a federation
Just like the EU is a modern-day German Reich only a Federal Union?
But the monarchy still exist, so... A royal federation?
Well, it's more the the British empire minus everything profitable
@@derniercaesar5319 technically speaking she is still the queen of commonwealth countries.
@@LK-ho1dg The Head of the Commonwealth, currently Queen Elizabeth II, is recognised by the members of the Commonwealth of Nations as the "symbol of their free association" and serves as a leader, alongside the Commonwealth
Secretary-General Commonwealth Chair-in-OfficeElizabeth II is actually the monarch of 16 different countries. A vestige of Great Britain's former colonial empire, these states, known as the commonwealth realms, recognize Elizabeth as their Queen, but are otherwise wholly independent sovereign states.
What does the UK have to offer to Canada and Australia? Does Australia or Canada really need the UK?
The UK offers Canada and Australia a friendly market to sell our natural resources and f o o d (though it’s admittedly small compared to the markets of China, Japan and USA)
No they dont. Hell....Australia & Canada are mates but they have very different situations to content with. The "casual allies" thing suits them just fine. They would not want to get THAT close. This makes no sense....
Also Canada needs people. An influx of educated workers that might potentially settle would be amazing. Because they are already 90% naturalized.
@@alexlant5740 If Canada gets an influx of educated workers from the UK, that means the UK will lose educated workers.
@@Alftura Agreed we Canadians love our Australian cousins, but neither country are in a position to make drastic oversimplified foreign policy changes like Brexit.
Anglophone states of Canada...
Quebec is typing 💬
Good old Quebec, Canadian politics would be boring without the angry French and English Canadians shouting at each other.
Again and again.Supremely researched,perfect narration & content,excellent work.
You always explain & answer 99.8% of any questions one could have.Fantastic,stellar work my boy!!
For Canada, New Zealand and Australia it's the geopolitical equivalent of moving back in with your parents.
For the UK, it's the geopolitical equivalent of going to a bar where nobody speaks English and trying to order a drink by raising your voice.
I think it would be more accurate to say they're taking in their demented dad into their house.
Yeah....Aussies and Kiwis have their differences and its a 4 hour plane ride. This will not work at all.
Ah yes, the ancient British ritual of tourism: If I speak as if I was drowning in molasses, it will automatically translate my words for the masses.
Sailor: Hey look there's some new huge land !
Captain : ITS FREE REAL ESTATE
More like dads a shell of his former glory and is going a bit crazy and unstable and the kids all grew into successful adults but they still need to put up with him for his boomer inheritance.
That just sounds like the British empire with more steps.
This idea has been floating around, ineffectually, for 50 years. Brexit isn't going to hasten its adoption.
Eep Barba Durkle, someone's trying to get laid in college
not a fucking chance because Scotland will be leaving the UK this year ... the UK is finished
@@SaorAlba1970 Traitor.
No No. They work for each other in return for money
Imagine the power of the rugby and cricket teams
You guys aren't invited to play hockey. You'll turn our teams to shit
Sheer distance makes forming CANZUK into a close union, let alone a single nation, difficult at best. Bilateral Canada-UK and Australia-New Zealand deals could work much better.
forget CANZUK, now i want the CAUK Union
No want one a single nation ,this isnt what cazuk is
That would be pretty pointless. Relations between the UK and AU/NZ are much stronger than with Canada. Aside from the fact Brits share much deeper cultural relations with Australians and New Zealanders compared to Canadians, the UK invests far more into both as well with foreign direct investment worth roughly £330bn pounds vs £35bn pounds with CA. Trade between the UK and AU/NZ was worth about $20bn which is slightly more than UK/CA. Brits also move to Australia at a rate of 30 000 a year vs Canada which is roughly the same as NZ at 6000.
@Heed The Bah Is it really that bad? It may be because of where you live.
There’s already a bilateral agreement between Australia and New Zealand.
Canzuk is just smoke and mirrors put out by Bojo.
Exactly, it's a total joke, vastly different countries, limited trade opportunities because of distance, far more diverse foreign policy goals and the list goes on.
While i think Brexit is stupid, I am hopeful for CANZUK. Sounds like a swell idea after secession from the EU
I hope it comes about so I can move to australia easier
CANZUK is coming. The majority of people in all 4 countries support it
@@Wazzzup2009 I keep getting reminded of this. Most Canadians I know that don't spend all their time on youtube, still don't even know what CANZUK is, or they think its just a trade deal. I also keep getting reminded how the Canadian opposition leader supports it. Maybe they should look and see just how well our opposition leader is doing.
What CANZUK really means is the expansion of the existing Australia/New Zealand Closer Economic Relations agreement to the UK and Canada. The CER already has all the required features including alignment of regulatory frameworks, free trade and free movement of people. The CER is one of the most comprehensive and successful free trade agreements anywhere in the world.
I like the way the CER is based on mutual recognition of standards rather than having some sort of CER wide standardization across Australia and New Zealand. So in the CER arrangement, Australia recognizes educational qualifications granted by New Zealand universities and food standards by the NZ food standards authority. There's no EU style attempt to make everyone have the same standards, more like 'those folks over there have comparable standards to us'. So you can qualify as a solicitor in NZ and go work as one in AZ. Of course, over time this is likely to mean that solicitors in NZ get told 'Here in NZ we do things this way but if you're in Australia they do things slightly differently'.
It's basically a much better way to do it than the EU model which doesn't even try to make qualifications portable but does try, and largely fails, to micromanage a load of stuff to benefit France and Germany and screw everyone else.
This is one of the better sales pitches, I'll give you that.
@@HamishDuh2nd It’s not a sales pitch. That’s just what CANZUK actually is. Caspian Report isn’t interested in telling us what it’s about because he’s anti-British. His last video about the UK was about it breaking up. I know exactly what CANZUK is because I helped found it.
@@noodlyappendage6729 Did you now? Well... That isn't how the CANZUK lobbyists are currently selling it, but hey, at least you had good intentions. I am a salesman, and I know a sales pitch when I hear it. If you are trying to convince me, then you are trying sell to me. Its that simple.
Having a shared head of state is used as one of the key selling points now by CI and other youtube CANZUK proponents. We don't know what an actualized CANZUK would look like yet, because this is just an idea. Right now though, there is clearly a difference in how you see CANZUK, and how the UK and UK loyalists see CANZUK.
Caspian Report has a skeptical bias against CANZUK, as do many people. But just because he has an agenda, does not make Shirvan wrong.
Shirvan also made a recent video about Canada. Before that, we Canadians recently blocked drone technology to Turkey in an effort to keep drones out of his country's conflict with Armenia, so his bias against us would be expected. But beyond over-emphasizing the seriousness of some of our challenges, his research was solid, and I can't say he was wrong.
@@HamishDuh2nd What do you mean by UK loyalists? If you would like to know more about CANZUK just join their Facebook group. I created it years ago until it became fully synchronised to CANZUK International (formerly the Commonwealth Freedom of Movement Organisation). I even made the organisation change its name. Dropping the ‘Commonwealth’. Thank God. The Mentioning of QE2 is just about highlighting the things we share in common. Like language. This wasn’t pushed by the government. It wasn’t a government or even a parliamentary initiative. It came from people like me lobbying for it for years. I was laughed at by them or just ignored. They were fully concentrated on the EU back then. Now look at them. The Conservatives in Canada now have CANZUK as party policy. In all honesty it’s just about freer trade and freer movement based on the relationship between Australia and New Zealand. Talk of military cooperation was always there from the start. But not union of any kind. ✌️Anyway enjoy your evening. I can promise you. I’m not a nutter. I really am one of the five people that founded it. Regards.
The sun never sets on the Britis- I mean Canzuk Union
Keep dreaming....Canada has no use for canzuk. The only desperate country that needs it is little Britain !
@@joeissac3934 Yeah, but it would still be beneficial for all countries involved.
Canada could receive British military aid.
Australia could finally get rid of Emus with British and Canadian aid.
Britain could get out of their dire situation
@@PatriotMapper Little Britain doesn’t have military. Get help bro. USA has global hegemony......I know this hurts your british feelings 🤣🤣🤣🤣
In Quebec they used to say that the sun never sets on the British empire because God doesn't trust it in the dark .
@@joeissac3934 Know need to be rude about it tho...
Me (in the UK) watching CaspianReport videos to figure out what the heck is happening in the UK
Have you tried TLDR UK ?
Alternate Title: The Empire Strikes Again
*The Empire Strikes Back
@@qasimmir7117 *The Empire Strikes America’s Back
It’s not envisioned to be a 1 government “empire”, just so it’s clear.
Something makes me think you're jealous here, Napoleon Bonaparte...
The real empire is China and USA
But under the mother of Prince Andrew, and soon the brother of Prince Andrew, that is exactly what it will be, whether it was envisioned or not.
@@HamishDuh2nd The Royals would have no power over this federation so I don't really understand what you're saying?
Yeah Caspian totally misunderstood the whole idea of Canzuk
The British know all to well what would benefit them. But, they forget to look at how this would benefit the other Anglophone nations. It is much more natural for Canada to cosy up to U.S., and Australia to Asian nations.
What I find most interesting is that, according to this video, the EU wasn't precisely the problem. The British wanted a union where they called the shots, a collection of vassals that would be underneath them. For London to expect the rest changing policies to suit them is rather arrogant.
Besides, it is ironic that this anglosphere union, for all its might and power, would be completely dependent on the one power that isn't part of the club.
Edit: Typo
Not sure I agree, the public don't like the EU but that's not because they wanted to be in control of their own version. This is Westminster being power/money hungry and doesn't represent what most people here actually want
@@silverhost9782 Yes, I get it. Maybe I didn't put it in the best words. I meant the politicians being power hungry.
UK: Now hear me out guys....its called a FEDERATION
Canada/Australia/New Zealand: Sounds like an Empire.
UK: no no! this time will be different!
Lol
U.S.: >.> .> ¤.¤
Tell that to the USA
@@buddermonger2000 screw the usa, they have tried to leave us high and dry repeatedly. the anglosphere needs to look after its own back.
@@mn5499 the joke is the US is an empire lol
Ultimately Britain is going to have to become even more subservient than it already is to the US.
Yeah, what's more realistic than CANZUK is Britain becoming the newest American colony
*The future is now old man*
If we can all agree to remove the monarchy, then Britain got themselves a deal. Lol
@@silverhost9782 Yup, soon to be the 52 state, immediately after Puerto Rico. The queen could take the role of the governor.
As an American I would prefer Britiain (UK) to be an ally and trading partner, not "subservient".
UK looking for a rebound relationship after their messy breakup
More like returning to the wife after a brief, messy affair.
No more like after divorce after an unhappy marriage, going out on the razzle with mates to celebrate
Nah, more like crashing on your adult kid's couch after losing most of your stuff in the settlement for a divorce you initiated. ("You" being the UK in this context)... Possibly while very drunk.
@@laurencefraser nah, Going out after divorce on the razzle with the lads(Canada,Australia,New Zealand- CANZUK, with US tagging along) getting absolutely " VACCINATED" while the "ex" succombs to Care Home syndrome...
( yes a lot of euthinisiums used above)
And is older and more cranky now, very high maintenance.
Oceania!... Oceania!... 'tis for thee
Nineteen eighty something
@@antonimalachowski5262 1984.
"Tis for Thee"
Bristish Empire: "Im back baby!"
Haha
America: dad, stop embarrassing me.
A fuckin drug dealer ??
No thanks.
British empire is basically incomplete without British raj
Let's allow Germany to join
I support a CANZUK union and free movement of persons within CANZUK
Me too brother
I would like that too.
Raman Khushi Canada is French facts.
@Raman Khushi Canada will not join this crap...lol keep dreaming.
Yeah. Could see a problem with Trudeaupian Canada. They’ve fallen completely for the current race-baiting fad. In any case we’re not gonna have much movement of any kind to NZ and Aus until this Covid sh1te is over.
As a Canadian citizen with friends both Aussie and Brit, I support this. I also have half a dozen blood relatives that are born and raised American citizens.
I feel like this could work. With an increasingly uncertain and hostile world, this needs to happen.
At the very least free trade, movement, and even more comprehensive military integration.
Get rid of your P.M first. __Canadians are not anglophones if not for a tiny minority .most don't give a shit to about English speaking countrie
@@robertoballa9703 but they do. Britain is very popular with the Canadian public and we have some of the strongest diplomatic relationships. Canadians are English speakers and most are descendents of the same anglo culture. You don't know anything about this or canada.
You should cut contact with the American ones. I would wholeheartedly support an Anglosphere federation if only it would ditch the Americans for good. Otherwise they will just continue driving their interests at the expense of everyone else's.
@@goldbullet50 Lmao the US is basically the estranged family member.
South Africa can hardly be called predominantly white.
200 years ago it could.
In the XXI century of course not
During that time it was considered so as the only people who mattered in SA were white. Now that isn't the case and that is one of the reasons why it isn't part of this hypothetical federation
@David-James Ferguson Early Dutch settled in an inhabited South Africa, that blacks had abandoned centuries before. At the time, during the time of discoveries, population was 100% white.
@Nathan Byrne Europe as a whole is weary of Turkey. They are culturally, religiously and ethnically different from EU nations, with a hawkish and aggressive foreign policy. Maybe do some research before trying to be clever
@@campelodemagalhaes not even then. The cape colony never had a white population of more than 30%
No additional layer of soverignty of our nations would have to be given up as this video suggests. We believe in the same values, and morals. The Canzuk countries believe in the same rights of sovereignty. His assertion makes no sense. Canzuk is a brilliant concept, and I'm surprised it has not been already implented...
I just realized this could very well happen in the near future, Australia and New Zeeland would benefit from increased protection against China, economically as well since trade deals such as coal have been cut between AUS and China, and since the pipeline deal with the US has been cut, Canada might shift focus back to the UK, meaning both economically and militarily all four states have some insensitive to join
sure but you would be living under US protectorate, say goodbye to sovereignety and democracy for your people.
I think a closer relationship with China would be of great benefit especially for NZ as resistance to the corporate super state
@@backintimealwyn5736 we’ve been living as a US protectorate since WWII and it’s going fine so far. We’re much happier with the US as an ally than anyone seems to be as a Russian or Chinese lackey.
@@backintimealwyn5736 yea sure it would be like herding cats yea we will work together but as soon as you want us to give each other head there is guna be blow back pun not intended
While China is ur largest trading partner. It don't make sense what u are proposing.
Sounds like the British Empire with extra steps to me
The empire existed, this fairytale wont.
(British Empire)^-1
@Perseus4838 Avery then why bother.
@Perseus4838 Avery but the current method of travel works fine, and the trade aspect is tiny. Ceta and nafta absolutely dwarf this idea for trade.
paper tiger, non entity, pointless, not happening.
@Perseus4838 Avery no its not.
UK: joins political and economic union, leaves it again
UK: I'll fucken do it again
try* CANZUK is a pipe dream in a few youtube comment sections, nothing like the shared ambition of a united Europe that arose after the devastation of WW2.
@@uschurch united europe was a pipe dream idea as well before the ww2
@@cv4809 well not really. If russia and the allies didn't gang raped germany, europe would have been inited by now (though russia would still be an independwnt country at least.)
@@cv4809 Not sure what you are trying to say. France and UK almost united in 1939/40, even with a shared passport and everything. Germany's govt didn't have a vision for a united Europe, neither did the Soviet Union.
With systems like SABRE, Skylon and Oneweb on the horizon that synchronicity will be a whole lot easier to achieve and unity will only compliment their current prosperity.
I think this might actually work very well! one of the reasons America is the biggest economy in the world is actually the de-centeralized approach to econimcs, allowing the states to compete with less regulation and more favorable incentives to business. The Canzuk could adopt a similar de-centeralized approach treating it's members as unified states
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"Honey CaspianReport has uploaded"
Literally
I see you are a man of culture as well
Wow, living the dream
"Honey our propaganda is ready"
"...a powerful Russia..."
Kek
And before the EU, our largest trade partner was the commonwealth. Current trade partners don't matter.
20s: MAPHILINDO, CANZUK
30s: Union of Austria and Germany
YES.
Unite Germany
We all know what happened last time Austria and Germany united in the 30's lool
@The Alchemist
We'll be waiting... this time, with the guns drawn
@The Alchemist
We're talking about Germany, not China. By 2050, their land will sadly be very dry and most of their agricultural land will be lost. Ours will increase.
Only 3 weeks needed to stave off a hoarde.
@The Alchemist
All Russia has to do is wait. An army crawls on its stomach.
Imagine a world with Maphillindo and Canzuk.
That would be interesting.
PNG be like D:
East vs West
As a Canadian, I am all for this idea. It feels like the smart play to distance ourselves from The USA. every single day
With all do love anr respect, canada distancing from the usa has very little chance of actually happening.
Canada exports more than 70 percent of their total export to usa, they are literally our next neighbor and is a super power. I don't know how this union is going to successfully help distance canada from usa
Distance yourself from us huh...yea ok
@@alexandreinheepark7263 We don't know until we try
I feel like , even if CANZUK became a thing , current trends in the economy would be way too hard to shift. It would take decades before any meaningful change is felt due the amount of logistics needed.
Exporting to the US is simply more profitable and faster than doing the same with the UK or Australia , for example.
@@mabeSc if it will take a long time we better get started right away. Procrastination is not going to change anything.
I have watched a few episodes from the Caspian report. The breadth of your topics is stunning and seems to come with a real understanding for the local issues
Naurr😩 well then again i guess no one gets New Zealand
They're not gonna be one country, but I think it definitely makes sense to focus on as strong of ties as possible especially in the face of China aggression
@Nathan Byrne Economic ties, but not loyalty and defense
"There is no future in England's Dreaming"
- Johnny Rotten
god save the queen!!!
@@rj5848 yeah let's let the country that annexed hong kong, suppresses free speech and locks minorities up in labour camps run the world.
Nice try china bot.
@@dan7564 yes cope
@@dan7564 'country that annexed hong kong' - What? Hong Kong was always part of China! The UK out of nothing decided to steal a part of china's land and later complain that China want to reunite? That is absurd
@@rj5848 but they are the biggest and the most influential. Huge power can make them dangerous to the others.
The Australian conservative government has said they’re ok with an FTA with the UK but they’re not interested in freedom of movement. The FTA negotiations have also taken much longer than the UK’s agreements with Canada, Japan, Norway, etc, and are still going.
So ironic that a penal colony rejects its mother country...
They might eventually change, Canada’s Conservative party have adopted CANZUK as an official policy, and its popular Bi-partisan in New Zealand and UK
@@alf2617 The conservative party in Canada adopted it because America is influential, the Anti-China sentiment has traveled to many countries and I agree soon Australia will realize if it wants to have a chance against China joining the old empire back wouldn’t be bad.
@@Student0Toucher What kind of deterrence from China can the UK provide, that the US can't?
@@katarishigusimokirochepona6611 - if you put it like that, it isn’t. It’s a good thing about Australia, a basic value of what has become one of the wealthiest societies on Earth is rehabilitation and giving people a second chance. Mateship and egalitarianism.
th-cam.com/video/rMdbVHPmCW0/w-d-xo.html
All the Canadians and UK in the comments don't realise how beneficial this would be to Australia and NZ. We hate our trade dependence on China and moving our economy somewhere else would be nothing but a benefit, that's why we support it.
New Empire needs strong leaders, Boris Johnson can't get his hair in order.
The idea of the UK ever being an Empire again is laughable.
It doesn’t need to be an empire, an agreement between the four nations would be enough.
@@mihangelap-williams9871 What do you mean it's going to end?
Most of the democratic world has weak leaders right now.
@@mihangelap-williams9871 defo time to reform.
Last time I was this early I colonised the new world
The only conquering that will happen now is with China and Taiwan, China is flying planes daily over Taiwanese skies. There’s actually a great analysis on the Taiwan-China conflict and the prospects of a Chinese invasion and Taiwanese independence: th-cam.com/video/yI0foMtF_oU/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=MyTake
Lol Australians and New Zealanders ready to ditch the UK and the Queen, no way Aussies want to tie themselves at the Hip to UK again. No thanks, independence is the goal.
Would you not even want "free trade"? There's no permanent attachments in that, no commitments, no "marriage".
I think Australia and New Zealand are looking around for their big brothers and sisters right now.....as a BIG red bully has just walked into their corner of the room.....
Australians, New Zealanders and Canadians overwhelmingly support CANZUK. U are a minority.
Can't see the Quebecois being on board with this.
They apparently have really high agreement to Canzuk in recent polls.
As for jow accurate polls are, is a different question.
@@alexdenton1174 Stop lying. Those are internet polls lol. Canada will never agree to such useless union.
@@kevinmaroon1093 Yes it will.
IM FROM UK AND LIVE IN NZ AND FULLY SUPPORT THIS IDEA AS LONG AS IT BENEFITS EVERYONE SORTED
I'm not sure where you picked up the federation idea from honestly, even the biggest cheerleaders of CANZUK are only really looking for trade and immigration deals.
neither of which they will get
All countries have a majority approval of canzuk
David Rieger I'm not talking about the government, even in Quebec there's majority support and New Zealand supports it the most with 86% the UK supports it the least with 65% I think, I don't know why thoug.
@@josepheaton3829 based on what? A single CANZUK poll? The idea is hardly mentioned in Australia or NZ
Michael Rolfe I live in Australia, I've heard about it a lot
Uk is running around like headless chicken!
Hardly. 60 trade deals signed in the year of a global pandemic and over 10 million people vaccinated mainly using a British developed and manufactured vaccine that costs 1/5 that of others, is more durable and more practical. Vaccinated rate is 4th highest in the world, 5x that of the EU combined. Say what you said again?
@@Olliebobalong He's saying that the UK already had most of those trade deals, they have simply been rearranged outside of the EU and some of them in worse terms for the UK than the ones you had before. He's saying that the UK has vaccinated more than the EU because the UK government went ahead with a vaccine with the minimum amount of trials, and that the costs weren't 1/5 of the “others”. They are, in fact, 7 times more expensive than in the EU which managed to have lower prices thanks to being a larger market.
Before you mention it, you can't blame the EU for the current rate of vaccination. You can argue that it has had a late start vaccinating due to the number of trials and agreements needed for a vaccine to be accepted (which I don't really mind as long as they ensure the effectiveness of the vaccine), but right now the vaccine has already been accepted and AZ is simply failing to deliver on its promises. If you don't have vaccines it doesn't matter how ready the vaccine rollout infrastructure is, no-one will be vaccinated.
You want me to say that again?
That is what happens when you get all your information from British newspaper The Sun.
Hey don't forget us Indians, we are also part of the Anglo sphere ( although we are not racially Anglo Saxon). You all can do massive trade with us.
lol the issue is the GDP difference and the population difference. It would be unfeasible for India to join CANZUK, immigration away from India would just hurt the development of your state. Although maybe in the future you could join as a subsidiary nation limited to increased trading rights. (I imagine this feature would be extended to the Commonwealth)
I think India should be able to Join CANZUK after it becomes more stable, as of now the Living standard in India is not very good if say India Joined CANZUK and CANZUK comes in with free movements every Indian citizen will leave for Australia, Canada, and the UK and a huge brain drain will happen. a Trade-agreement is more feasible.
*_*UK leaves EU_**
UK: _"Fine, I'll make my own."_
not a fucking chance because Scotland will be leaving the UK this year ... the UK is finished it's more like England :Fine, i'll make my own London no longer speaks for Scotland
@@SaorAlba1970 Keep lapping up the SNP propaganda mate...
SNP got in your head buddy?
@@Adam-xp3pc our place is in the EU and not the UK
@@SaorAlba1970 the eu would not let you back in I'm afraid to say. That would set a precedent for many independence-leaning regions across Europe (catalonia in Spain for example)
A dream that I pray will come true
A lot more uniformity of academic and professional credentials. A multiplied job market.
A lot more freedom of travel. Fewer bureaucratic costs and obstructions to ruin border crossings.
A lot more circulation of "local" and "luxury" consumer products. My favourite brands of chocolate bars, wine gums, and ginger beer might be on common supermarket shelves instead of only in expensive import shops.
Lee kuan yew noted that '..their destiny's have gone their separate ways on separate continents'.
Geopolitical reality always trump's ties of kinship, because strategy is the stronger force.
also, the empire works when done the first time around. former colonies wouldn't want to be colonized again in any shape or form especially now that these sovereign states can take care of themselves without the former emperor country reaping the lion's share of the benefits.
I think you might be underestimating the ties of kinship and a shared mother tongue to be honest. I don't think there is any question that the UK would go to war if Australia, Canada, New Zealand or the US was invaded. I think that goes for all the main English speaking countries.
@@alex29443 America binds Anglophone countries together through its separate alliance structures. (NATO, ANZUS, etc)
Without America's approval, a canzuk alliance is just another imperial hegemon.
Don't forget the ambivilance people outside would feel towards another british ethno nationalist empire (US, Germany, India, China, Russia, etc..)
They all fought against British hegomony once last century. No one wants a chuvanist, aggressive Anglo superstate!
@@yanmak2363 There are plenty of places a lot more chauvanistic and aggressive than the Anglo countries right now, especially China.
But obviously the English speaking worlds centre of gravity is the USA, the only reason it is not part of CANZUK is because of their divergent history and the fact that it is so big that it would overwhelm the group
@@alex29443 You just shot yourself in the foot an answered your own question. Nobody wants to live under a Ethnonationalist empire, Chinese, Russian, Ottoman, British or European..
Canzuk alliance can only be an economic power. If it aquires a militaristic purpose.
The ROW would stick a sword through it.
I'm Australian, this idea sounds cool but I'd never support abandoning or making this an alliance against the United States who has always been with Australia(even when UK abandoned) and time tested brother/friend.
God bless America. 🇺🇸🇦🇺
Never against America, they are our blood brothers too.
Brothers in arms even.
God bless the US and Australia.
Love from the UK
I'm British and I supoort Canzuk and would even support free trade and movement and united military between the USA and all the canzuk countries we all share a language similar values and culture
AUKUS has arrived :')
@@alexdenton1174 Did you just kick us out? NZL :/
God bless Australia!
From an American.
This Union would more or less need no land army 😂😂, just a massive navy.
Britain once had the largest most dominant navy, we can do it again
The US doesnt need a large land army either, and realisticly only uses it in continental europe (cold war), and the middle east / north africa (zionist wars). Neither conflict of which was really required for the US to secure north America or it's own economic interests (the US has minimal global trade as % of GDP).
@@gabeat_ With what budget? Two world wars already bankrupted the Empire. Where’s the money coming from this time?
There lies the issue. It would require a large expensive Navy.....That should kill it allow. Every CANZUK nation has reduced defense spending and basically depend on the US because a big Navy is expensive. That would kill this idea alone.
@@p51mustang24 that’s false, do you even petrodollar
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@@James-st9uu England Joined the chat... and removed you for treason.
Scotland has not left the chat, wee Jimmy crankie Nicola sturgeon does not talk for the majority of Scots
As a citizen of one of these nations living in another one of these nations, with a geopolitics degree, fantastic accurate analysis as usual by Shirvan and importantly, carefully worded as well. Shirvan my boi with the goods again! Always delivering with the quality videos!