This season had the perfect amount of content to go along side a yearly expansion. It never overshadowed witch queen content but it was never forgotten.
Honestly I feel like this is the first "season that dropped with expansion" since Shadowkeep that was actually good, Undying and the Hunt just didn't hit the mark
I totally agree with this, honestly I can’t even recall what happened in season of the Undying and Hunt just had boring activities. The story from Hunt wasn’t necessarily bad but it could’ve been better definitely
I really liked undying. Was it the best season ever no. But as a first season roetty great. Plus it did bring the random vex attacks to the moon wich were really cool. I really enjoy it when season affect the overworld
Agreed. I rank it Risen > Undying > Hunt. I feel like fighting some of the vex on the moon and Garden of Salvation were so tied to Undying that it feels weird doing those without the season being around anymore. Hunt just lacked so much content it was just 4 story missions 😂
@@somedude1887 Season of the Hunt had a bunch of stuff that probably needed cutscenes to be done justice, but they unfortunately had to do it via text files. Death of Sagira, Osiris losing his light, arrival of the Celebrant, etc.
Honestly surprised how...short this story was. To the point where I wondered if I'd missed anything. BUT then again they gave us WQ at the same time so...yeah I guess we can let a short story along with their best expansion/content so far slide for a season.
thats how i felt. when the season was practically over like 5 weeks in, I was like man this felt super short, but then I realized that they did also drop wq so i am glad we didnt' get two heavy things to deal with
As a Behemoth Titan whose been using stasis kinetic and heavy weapons, Dead Messenger can be very helpful for having all elements if I need shield breakage. Or the throw Glacier nade then break it entirely with one gl shot combo is great!
Cant believe I didnt think of this lol I run eyasluna and palmyra on behemoth but could never figure out an energy weapon that fit. Totally stealing this thank you
@@Subsistence69 the exotic titan glaive lets you shoot a bubble that your super will spawn all the crystals around the bubble and blow up immediatly like how it usta work with ward of dawn but now you do it all solo. Also itll give ya even more overshield next season with the bufs to have in your tanky behemoth set up.
@@connoringram4948 yeah I would’ve definitely been running the glaive if it didnt suck ass 😂 will most definitely be making it into the loadout next season since it will function like an actual bubble
I like these videos. Not only does it provide like a snapshot and moment in time, but it allows you and us to process our thoughts and feelings and memories of this season and period, get it out there, and let it go and look to the future for what's new and upcoming and hopefully very fun.
Hey Datto great video, i really loved the brief story recap in "simple" words, the lore channels are really good but sometimes i just need a 5min speech and not a 30min one full of lore lol looking forward to the next one! been following you since day one D1, keep it up
The exotic MG needs a little tracking on the regular projectiles. I also hate how much it bucks, feels like I miss half my shots. A little more stability and a touch of tracking would go a long way imo.
I agree with a boost of stability but I think that instead of tracking they should just up the velocity a tiny bit. But that’s just me, I never really like when tracking is on weapons that aren’t rocket launchers
Man I absolutely loved saladmans development in season of the risen. Crow was a bit irritating but if it's for the bigger picture, let it be. Can't wait to see more
@@pooPbutwhole Finally. You're the first person I've seen say that they realize that Crow's naivety and empathy offers a new way of considering and looking at things, even if he's not always totally right. He's a fresh perspective to the average Guardian mindset, which is clearly part of his character's purpose.
I would just like to say that I would be way more interested in Grand Overture if I could deactivate the missile mode without having to expend them all and instead keep some banked for later. Makes the blind effect from the catalyst interesting utility-wise and as such make me more likely to swap into it for general combat - also that'd make me less desperate to hoard a stack of 20 only to get feels bad if I die before getting to use it on something big and tanky.
I think the blind effect from the catalyst should just apply to regular bullets as well as the special mode. It's not like that would really be overpowered, it has a charge time and uses heavy ammo, and the blinding competition is special ammo with no charge time.
@@Duke_Exeter I think with the upcoming buffs you're gonna want to use it for some DPS, especially if its arc 3.0 - having a toggle back and forth for utility and bonus dps works best, I think - makes player choice at the forefront rather that just aim -> shoot -> blind -> profit imo
@@Castitalus this is not real. If you do your special reload you will gain "volley ready" meaning your loaded missiles will now fire. Swapping weapons does not remove this and neither does another special reload. You are stuck firing missiles til you've spent them all once activated, hence my original comment.
You made a great point by the end of the video, the not knowing, the surprise aspect is exciting, it's what gives a certain magic to something, it made me hyped for season 17 more than other seasons where i knew exactly what was happening, I'm seeing a lot of people in the community freaking out right now cause they don't know what they're getting, and i really don't understand that, but hey to each their own i suppose, i just think that knowing everything before something isn't that fun. Back in the day when you played a game for the first time, especially D1, it had this magic of figuring it out by yourself and i think that's something lacking nowadays in games in general.
Grand Overture feels clunky to use. It doesnt fire right away when you click and the projectile is very slow. Also, why would you want to fire only 5 or 10 missiles when you can load up to 20 missiles right? but I like the theme of it though.
I actually love grand overture. It was very helpful in the second encounter of Vow. The x20 charge rocket does decent dps and you get plenty of ammo with it while everyone else is out of ammo by the time you get the final stand.
I did like how Saladins view on the Cabal, well Caiatl's Cabal changed over the season. Where both parties begin to notice similarities in their warrior cultures. Such as rites of passage, honoring the dead etc etc. Sometimes fighting alongside an enemy for so long helps you understand that you are not too different. Caiatl notices this as well and even gloats that Saladin might actually like being on her war council. Hell, Caiatl actually encouraged Saladin to set up a Cabal version of the Iron Banner and even provided some "improvements" to it. Even allowing him to return to the Tower and run the Vanguards Iron Banner. I also liked how Crow was willing to accept responsibility for his actions and was going to give his life as payment over what happened. Such a massive contrast to Uldren "Everything I did, I did for her" Sov. Where Uldren would've done what he did during Forsaken regardless if Riven was whispering in his ear or not. It is also interesting how Saladins inclusion and promotion has caused many Cabal to defect to Calus and The Witness.
I agree with your point about Bungie keeping story stuff & a lot of stuff behind a curtain prior to a season release. But I think we should get a hype teaser on sandbox/artifact focused weapons, sub-class 3.0, etc.
A machinegun worrth keeping a VERY close eye on next season is actually the VoG one, Corrective Measure. First of all, it has an adept variant, so adept big ones spec + some small stat bumps. But more importantly, it's an adaptive (450rpm, same as Hammerhead) machine gun which can roll Rewind Rounds + High-Impact Reserves. Which is a very strong combo with some great synergy (the same roll that is really good on Preadyth's Revenge (outside of the fact that it's still a sniper in pve)). Pair that with extended mag or something and you'll be doing some pretty good sustained DPS next season. edit: Oh, and it's void, so volatile rounds, although that'll matter less next season since you'll need a grenade kill
dude 5:30 since i saw that as a perk way back in week 2 i liiterely stoped using volatile flow and i have a very VERY VERYYYY AGGRESIVVE ability spam build for my titan that allows me to have all the perks without using any of the seasonal mods, i have devour on orb pickup, oversheild on sheil throw, volatile rounds on greadne kills and all the mods that i need to get them all back in seconds
If there's one thing i didn't like about Vox Obscura was how the combination of the timer and huge assortment of champions conflicted with the master difficulty of the mission.
Grand Overture takes some getting used to, but after using in pretty much every activity outside of GMs, I can say that it is very strong. It became my primary heavy weapon for Gambit. Definitely give it a chance if you vaulted early in the season.
Regarding Grand Overture DPS: Aztecross among others did test it, and it hits the hardest of any machine gun presuming you get 20x missles loaded pre damage phase. You can hit immune enemies ie Templar or Atheon to do this so easy, but regardless even if the best HMG, it was still leagues behind the likes of Gjallahorn, 2x Slugs, Sleeper, Legendary Linears, Izzy Rockets, and Whisper. However, come the HMG buff Thunderlord and Heir Apparent who DO get the boss damage buff will outclass it outside of short damage phases to unload the missles. Arc 3.0 could also be worthy for the weapon, as its catalyst adds Blinding to the missle swarms. Who knows maybe we'll get a fragment that buffs mobility upon blinding a target. Basically Grand Overture's place to stay cone s17 would be Arc burn GMs with a champion mod or seasonal content, but later could do much more.
I don't understand why Bungie made rituals "stepping stone" weapons. By the time someone grinds out a certain activity enough to even unlock the weapon, they most likely have a better roll of another gun. I have not used a ritual weapon in a few seasons now
Salvo is still really good (just doesnt work great atm bc Void 3.0 focused on well builds), and Null Composure is pretty good, cant think of any void legendary fusions that are better. Adored suffers from snipers as a whole struggling in pve
@@timcal2136 I'm the first in line to defend Null Composure but I think it's safe to say that Snorri eats it's lunch now. Compulsive reloader + reservoir burst is disgusting, especially with the added damage of the archetype, and it has much better PVP rolls. That said it was the best at it what it did for a long time and same with salvo. Adored is still top tier in PVP. Reckless endangerment is just garbage, especially when you can get wastelander anytime or riiswalker from iron banner with almost double the range.
I really enjoyed this season. Even though the story lasted only a few weeks. And honestly what I liked about that was that unlike past seasons I didn't feel tied down to Destiny. I finished the story, I played all the Psyops missions, I got all the weapons, I leveled up my battle pass to 100 and that was it. For the first time in a long time I got to enjoy other games other than Destiny because I wasn't waiting for a lingering season to finish. I feel like this season was perfectly balanced for a $10 seasonal expansion. Overall I give this season a 9 out of 10.
Hi datto, would you ever be willing to post all of the blind runs of raids that your team did? I know you posted the Last Wish full 1st clear and I liked just watching you and your team try to figure it out. Thanks for the vids over the years!
One is for sure about season 17. It will be talked about. We were in the dark about both Arrivals and Worthy. If it's good it's another Arrivals. If it's bad it's another Worthy.
I truly think glaives are only missing one thing imo; removing the waiting period between shot and melee. I dont think is asking for too much, especially out of a weapon nobody uses. But it would genuinely make the feeling of wielding a glaive feel like youre wielding a polearm, not a sidearm
As a Warlock main I played Titan for guardian games because I didn't want the pity win lol. The whole point of the activity is to win as your main, not for everyone to rig it just because warlocks haven't won yet.
@@markmurex6559 yeah sure, but in the comments of various polls and videos on TH-cam at the start of the event, so many people were saying they'd play Warlock just to get them the w
I truly enjoyed this season. Agree with much of your opinions. Thanks for a thoughtful and concise review. BTW, can we get a Reckoning type addendum to Gambit again? I'm so bored by Gambit that I may not get the ornament this season, but just cringe when I have to go into solo queue and not many in our clan play Gambit anymore. It's played out.
@@GrimCitizen It is pretty substantial actually. I can’t remember what exactly the numbers were, but it was at the lower echelon of the high dps weapons. I think it had at least 50 thousand? on every other machine gun. I’m not saying that I would ever use it for dps, but I think most people underestimate it quite a bit.
Think peoples complain with it is the fact that the wind up of the gun despite being called a machine gun, is god damn slow... I mean sure it does a lot of dmg but why wait till you get to that top dps if you could chug a Gjallarhorn in an instant.
Since grand overature is not a crit based weapon so it is pretty good on bosses where a crit is harder to hit. Its pretty good on caretaker especially when he wants to spin during damage phase. Not as good when div is present since then you can more easily hit crits with other guns.
Grand overture honestly has amazing ammo econ and is very good in arc burn shit, I used it in some mid tier content and then again in the first week of gg in the arc burn it slapped, dead messenger being like borealis is cool and honestly it gets lots of pvp use and is decent in match game since wave frames are good, perfectly balanced imo.
For me the psi ops are the best matchmade content bungie created since menagerie. For the first time in years I could grind a activity that long.... u know just for fun They mixed old and new content perfectly and are the perfect step up from the normal battlegrounds from last year.
I prefer if they do every season reveal like like this, I want the bare bones of what’s happening, and I hope to be surprised when I get on post season reset
I think Glaives are going to follow the same pattern we saw with Bows when they arrived with Forsaken. A few minutes of hype while they're the brand new thing, followed by a general drop off as people go back to their old reliables. Over time, I bet we see a general resurgence from a very dedicated section of the community, but I doubt they'll ever compete with any of the standard specials in PvP or PvE without some much bigger buffs or seasonal mod metas
I agree but at the same time bows fundamentally have a much better place in end game content since they are long range, compared to glaives which are for the most part only viable in easy content
Datto what is the deal with the seasonal Critical Insight triumph ? Im season rank 300 and have focused countless engrams and the bloody thing still won't complete. Very deflating tbh.
I wish the story leaned more into are we the bad guy, do we just think we are the good guy? The whole reading minds was torture was an interesting angle I don't think was fleshed out. From a game point I wish weapon crafting let us break down guns and take a perk to put on another copy of that gun rather than the blueprints we got. It would be great with pally going away if I had a way to build a god roll
I did have a lot of fun with this season. I haven't had as much time to play so there's still a few things I wish I could knock out just not enough time. :(
I like the versatility of glaives. Pairing one with Outbreak Perfected gives me close- and long-range chip options while a rocket launcher gives me burst damage. It just feels like a balanced loadout with few weaknesses.
I would argue Void 3.0 is seasonal content, due the counterparts being seasonal, impact on all platforms, etc. Sure, you can argue development extended longer than seasonal content would, but Arc 3.0 and Solar 3.0 will be lumped with seasons moving forward (especially as seasonal mods will favor the elemental flavor, as Void had). Fair is fair, and accordingly, I believe this season brings SOLID content for being released alongside WQ. Good sign for the future 👌.
Question about the stream channel: Will your stream *highlight* videos be staying here, are they moving to the new channel, or will they be discontinued entirely?
Same I can’t wait for next season to be surprised I don’t know why people are so bent out of shape over not knowing what elements gonna come next I think it’s because people are really excited and I think that’s awesome but like there are so many people complaining that we don’t know what’s gonna happen yet and it’s like come on guys it’s next week week I don’t know why from what I’ve seen the majority of the community is so bent out of shape glad somebody agrees with me that it’s good to be a surprise because most of the time with this kind of stuff Bungie tells us in advance it’s good to be a surprise imo A nice change of pace
This season had the perfect amount of content to go along side a yearly expansion. It never overshadowed witch queen content but it was never forgotten.
agreed
I forgot vox quickly. No matchmaking and near impossible to solo.
Honestly I feel like this is the first "season that dropped with expansion" since Shadowkeep that was actually good, Undying and the Hunt just didn't hit the mark
I totally agree with this, honestly I can’t even recall what happened in season of the Undying and Hunt just had boring activities. The story from Hunt wasn’t necessarily bad but it could’ve been better definitely
I really liked undying. Was it the best season ever no. But as a first season roetty great. Plus it did bring the random vex attacks to the moon wich were really cool. I really enjoy it when season affect the overworld
@@joemoe650 I wish they could bring those back to the moon
Agreed. I rank it Risen > Undying > Hunt. I feel like fighting some of the vex on the moon and Garden of Salvation were so tied to Undying that it feels weird doing those without the season being around anymore. Hunt just lacked so much content it was just 4 story missions 😂
@@somedude1887 Season of the Hunt had a bunch of stuff that probably needed cutscenes to be done justice, but they unfortunately had to do it via text files. Death of Sagira, Osiris losing his light, arrival of the Celebrant, etc.
Honestly surprised how...short this story was. To the point where I wondered if I'd missed anything. BUT then again they gave us WQ at the same time so...yeah I guess we can let a short story along with their best expansion/content so far slide for a season.
thats how i felt. when the season was practically over like 5 weeks in, I was like man this felt super short, but then I realized that they did also drop wq so i am glad we didnt' get two heavy things to deal with
yeah, i did a stupid and bought the pass yesterday without looking at the time, but wq def makes up for it
@@ironCondor623 look up some vids on xp farming. You could get it fully done in a day or 2 of grinding
"I guess we can let it slide" Yeah you will, not like you have a say in the story beats.
@@ExtraordinaryFate it's an expression homie lol
13:59 Ok, seeing you two sync supers was pretty cool, that's a trailer moment right there.
Love you datto, helped every single destiny player
Datto you really need to craft a "Under Your Skin" bow with successful warmup and archer's tempo...
It'll change your mind REAL quick about that bow!
I’m not really much of a bow guy but yeah this one really grew on me.
I prefer archer’s tempo and explosive head, just feels right
I've got that same roll and it really does feel good.
Yes also adaptive munitions enhaced and exploding head breaks barriers in one shot
@@joshw0078 .....to bad that roll is impossible to craft. As both of those are on the same column.
As a Behemoth Titan whose been using stasis kinetic and heavy weapons, Dead Messenger can be very helpful for having all elements if I need shield breakage. Or the throw Glacier nade then break it entirely with one gl shot combo is great!
Cant believe I didnt think of this lol I run eyasluna and palmyra on behemoth but could never figure out an energy weapon that fit. Totally stealing this thank you
@@Subsistence69 the exotic titan glaive lets you shoot a bubble that your super will spawn all the crystals around the bubble and blow up immediatly like how it usta work with ward of dawn but now you do it all solo. Also itll give ya even more overshield next season with the bufs to have in your tanky behemoth set up.
@@connoringram4948 yeah I would’ve definitely been running the glaive if it didnt suck ass 😂 will most definitely be making it into the loadout next season since it will function like an actual bubble
13:59 was so sick popping both supers at the same time
Thanks for creating the stream archive channel. It gives me more Destiny content to watch and I’d be happy to give you the views.
also that sync behemoth at 14:00 was great
I can’t explain how excited I am for solar and mostly arc 3.0
I like these videos. Not only does it provide like a snapshot and moment in time, but it allows you and us to process our thoughts and feelings and memories of this season and period, get it out there, and let it go and look to the future for what's new and upcoming and hopefully very fun.
13:58 That was a badass super use sync with your teammate
Hey Datto great video, i really loved the brief story recap in "simple" words, the lore channels are really good but sometimes i just need a 5min speech and not a 30min one full of lore lol looking forward to the next one! been following you since day one D1, keep it up
Oh that's some brilliant quality of life change. Going to watch a whole lot of streams!
The machine gun with stats and one for all is actually pretty damn good. Once MGs get buffed again, it should be very strong.
Subs/headstone
Stats for all/headstone is super good also, breaking the headstone crystal around enemies will proc stats for all
Subsistence, rampage
Crafted mine to shoot like a laser
The exotic MG needs a little tracking on the regular projectiles. I also hate how much it bucks, feels like I miss half my shots.
A little more stability and a touch of tracking would go a long way imo.
100%. Super unreliable.
I agree with a boost of stability but I think that instead of tracking they should just up the velocity a tiny bit. But that’s just me, I never really like when tracking is on weapons that aren’t rocket launchers
YES! I miss with half my shots due to the charge time and slow projectile speed.
@@somedude1887 I agree with the velocity bump. When a cabal is launching slugs at us its damn near hit scan but ours is firing actual 🐌 it feels like
I think that the recoil direction could be tuned a bit, and I'd prefer the projectile speed be increased rather than it gain tracking.
Recurrent Impact with subsistence frenzy/headstone has been my go to weapon the entire season. I got 21% Delirium vibes from it and i LOVED that.
Thank you for reminding me to craft a recurrent impact. Can't wait to play with it next season
It is currently the best legendary machine gun, imo.
Man I absolutely loved saladmans development in season of the risen. Crow was a bit irritating but if it's for the bigger picture, let it be. Can't wait to see more
Crow doesn't seem to have any real use. He's like a child just waiting to do something wrong.
@@markmurex6559 because he actually is someone who questions thing i admire him more, far from childish imo
@@pooPbutwhole Finally. You're the first person I've seen say that they realize that Crow's naivety and empathy offers a new way of considering and looking at things, even if he's not always totally right. He's a fresh perspective to the average Guardian mindset, which is clearly part of his character's purpose.
I would just like to say that I would be way more interested in Grand Overture if I could deactivate the missile mode without having to expend them all and instead keep some banked for later. Makes the blind effect from the catalyst interesting utility-wise and as such make me more likely to swap into it for general combat - also that'd make me less desperate to hoard a stack of 20 only to get feels bad if I die before getting to use it on something big and tanky.
I hate the charge time. I miss a lot with it.
I think the blind effect from the catalyst should just apply to regular bullets as well as the special mode. It's not like that would really be overpowered, it has a charge time and uses heavy ammo, and the blinding competition is special ammo with no charge time.
@@Duke_Exeter I think with the upcoming buffs you're gonna want to use it for some DPS, especially if its arc 3.0 - having a toggle back and forth for utility and bonus dps works best, I think - makes player choice at the forefront rather that just aim -> shoot -> blind -> profit imo
Swapping weapons deactivates the missile mode.
@@Castitalus this is not real. If you do your special reload you will gain "volley ready" meaning your loaded missiles will now fire. Swapping weapons does not remove this and neither does another special reload. You are stuck firing missiles til you've spent them all once activated, hence my original comment.
Love the “thoughts” videos. Keep up the good work, Datto!
Sweet I'm going to watch every datto stream from now on
You made a great point by the end of the video, the not knowing, the surprise aspect is exciting, it's what gives a certain magic to something, it made me hyped for season 17 more than other seasons where i knew exactly what was happening, I'm seeing a lot of people in the community freaking out right now cause they don't know what they're getting, and i really don't understand that, but hey to each their own i suppose, i just think that knowing everything before something isn't that fun. Back in the day when you played a game for the first time, especially D1, it had this magic of figuring it out by yourself and i think that's something lacking nowadays in games in general.
Hey glad to hear streams are gonna be archived. Awesome!
I look forward to rewatching Datto’s world’s 2nd Lightfall raid in a few years
thank you datto, i love going back to see first reactions of old destiny releases.
GREAT VIDEO DATTO, REALLY ENJOYED IT, THANKS
i gave up on D2 a long time ago and i still watch these videos.
You must love to waste time.
Grand Overture feels clunky to use. It doesnt fire right away when you click and the projectile is very slow. Also, why would you want to fire only 5 or 10 missiles when you can load up to 20 missiles right? but I like the theme of it though.
it's being changed to have both functions, so that's a non issue. but yeah it still feels pretty clunky regardless
That super sync at 13:58 tho!
Many of the weapons were surprisingly good this season. The WQ stuff was great, but yes- the actual seasonal content was minimal.
Dope on the stream archive
I've used Grand Overture for the entirety of the legendary campaign. It worked well as a boss slapper if charged with kills on the adds.
The timegated upgrades is what kills seasons for me
DADDY DATTO WITH ANOTHER VIDEO LETS GO 🙏😭
I actually love grand overture. It was very helpful in the second encounter of Vow. The x20 charge rocket does decent dps and you get plenty of ammo with it while everyone else is out of ammo by the time you get the final stand.
I did like how Saladins view on the Cabal, well Caiatl's Cabal changed over the season. Where both parties begin to notice similarities in their warrior cultures. Such as rites of passage, honoring the dead etc etc. Sometimes fighting alongside an enemy for so long helps you understand that you are not too different. Caiatl notices this as well and even gloats that Saladin might actually like being on her war council. Hell, Caiatl actually encouraged Saladin to set up a Cabal version of the Iron Banner and even provided some "improvements" to it. Even allowing him to return to the Tower and run the Vanguards Iron Banner. I also liked how Crow was willing to accept responsibility for his actions and was going to give his life as payment over what happened. Such a massive contrast to Uldren "Everything I did, I did for her" Sov. Where Uldren would've done what he did during Forsaken regardless if Riven was whispering in his ear or not.
It is also interesting how Saladins inclusion and promotion has caused many Cabal to defect to Calus and The Witness.
I literally have Seasonal anxiety that i didn't do a lot of content this season but am relieved it is not going away next season
glad to see the twich streams are coming to the archive
Datto helps me sleep at night with his subpar GM Gameplay 😴
Oof
I agree with your point about Bungie keeping story stuff & a lot of stuff behind a curtain prior to a season release. But I think we should get a hype teaser on sandbox/artifact focused weapons, sub-class 3.0, etc.
Love this! I can never remember it all due to how disjointed each week is.
A machinegun worrth keeping a VERY close eye on next season is actually the VoG one, Corrective Measure.
First of all, it has an adept variant, so adept big ones spec + some small stat bumps. But more importantly, it's an adaptive (450rpm, same as Hammerhead) machine gun which can roll Rewind Rounds + High-Impact Reserves. Which is a very strong combo with some great synergy (the same roll that is really good on Preadyth's Revenge (outside of the fact that it's still a sniper in pve)).
Pair that with extended mag or something and you'll be doing some pretty good sustained DPS next season.
edit: Oh, and it's void, so volatile rounds, although that'll matter less next season since you'll need a grenade kill
dude 5:30 since i saw that as a perk way back in week 2 i liiterely stoped using volatile flow and i have a very VERY VERYYYY AGGRESIVVE ability spam build for my titan that allows me to have all the perks without using any of the seasonal mods, i have devour on orb pickup, oversheild on sheil throw, volatile rounds on greadne kills and all the mods that i need to get them all back in seconds
Subbed to the new channel Datto great content creator keep up the good work👍
Datto, you are a charismatic, sarcastic, funny streamer. People enjoy your content and like to watch it!
He's like the defective clone of Fallout.
I enjoyed season 16...and I'm looking forward to next season.
I would've really liked a wrap-up week at the end, like Season of the Lost had. Bring us back into the story before moving forward.
Tbf we had guardian games, not quite the same thing but hey its something
If there's one thing i didn't like about Vox Obscura was how the combination of the timer and huge assortment of champions conflicted with the master difficulty of the mission.
13:58 All Titans sharing one braincell moment
Grand Overture takes some getting used to, but after using in pretty much every activity outside of GMs, I can say that it is very strong. It became my primary heavy weapon for Gambit. Definitely give it a chance if you vaulted early in the season.
Regarding Grand Overture DPS: Aztecross among others did test it, and it hits the hardest of any machine gun presuming you get 20x missles loaded pre damage phase. You can hit immune enemies ie Templar or Atheon to do this so easy, but regardless even if the best HMG, it was still leagues behind the likes of Gjallahorn, 2x Slugs, Sleeper, Legendary Linears, Izzy Rockets, and Whisper. However, come the HMG buff Thunderlord and Heir Apparent who DO get the boss damage buff will outclass it outside of short damage phases to unload the missles.
Arc 3.0 could also be worthy for the weapon, as its catalyst adds Blinding to the missle swarms. Who knows maybe we'll get a fragment that buffs mobility upon blinding a target.
Basically Grand Overture's place to stay cone s17 would be Arc burn GMs with a champion mod or seasonal content, but later could do much more.
The charge time and projectile speed is what sux.
@@markmurex6559 Acquired Taste.
We learned to dps with fusions, we can use this weird Fusion esque HMG Cabal gun
Datto vods finally on YT? Say no more chief, insta-subbed
I don't understand why Bungie made rituals "stepping stone" weapons. By the time someone grinds out a certain activity enough to even unlock the weapon, they most likely have a better roll of another gun. I have not used a ritual weapon in a few seasons now
Salvo is still really good (just doesnt work great atm bc Void 3.0 focused on well builds), and Null Composure is pretty good, cant think of any void legendary fusions that are better. Adored suffers from snipers as a whole struggling in pve
@@timcal2136 I'm the first in line to defend Null Composure but I think it's safe to say that Snorri eats it's lunch now. Compulsive reloader + reservoir burst is disgusting, especially with the added damage of the archetype, and it has much better PVP rolls. That said it was the best at it what it did for a long time and same with salvo. Adored is still top tier in PVP. Reckless endangerment is just garbage, especially when you can get wastelander anytime or riiswalker from iron banner with almost double the range.
I really enjoyed this season. Even though the story lasted only a few weeks. And honestly what I liked about that was that unlike past seasons I didn't feel tied down to Destiny. I finished the story, I played all the Psyops missions, I got all the weapons, I leveled up my battle pass to 100 and that was it. For the first time in a long time I got to enjoy other games other than Destiny because I wasn't waiting for a lingering season to finish. I feel like this season was perfectly balanced for a $10 seasonal expansion. Overall I give this season a 9 out of 10.
Hi datto, would you ever be willing to post all of the blind runs of raids that your team did? I know you posted the Last Wish full 1st clear and I liked just watching you and your team try to figure it out. Thanks for the vids over the years!
11:56 I've been using then void machine gun from DSC and its pretty nasty with volatile rounds and procing reconstruction for fat magazine size
Wish i had that
The volatile titan aspect is my favorite one. It's actually insane
wow the machine gun buff sounds sick. i still have a vorpal weapon seventh seraph
One is for sure about season 17. It will be talked about. We were in the dark about both Arrivals and Worthy. If it's good it's another Arrivals. If it's bad it's another Worthy.
I watch every single episode, waiting for you to drop the nail polish.
Im so glad we can watch more of you dad 🫶🥵
Osteo + necrotic grips = best last room seasonal activity farm ever!
Babe wake up Datto posted his season closing thoughts
I truly think glaives are only missing one thing imo; removing the waiting period between shot and melee.
I dont think is asking for too much, especially out of a weapon nobody uses. But it would genuinely make the feeling of wielding a glaive feel like youre wielding a polearm, not a sidearm
Did he mention the new dungeon we getting?
Next season looks pretty good by me if we get something like grasp again.
Love that place.
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As a Warlock main I played Titan for guardian games because I didn't want the pity win lol. The whole point of the activity is to win as your main, not for everyone to rig it just because warlocks haven't won yet.
Warlocks were gonna win no matter what. Bungie fudges the numbers when it comes to Guardian Games. They did this last year.
@@markmurex6559 yeah sure, but in the comments of various polls and videos on TH-cam at the start of the event, so many people were saying they'd play Warlock just to get them the w
I truly enjoyed this season.
Agree with much of your opinions.
Thanks for a thoughtful and concise review.
BTW, can we get a Reckoning type addendum to Gambit again? I'm so bored by Gambit that I may not get the ornament this season, but just cringe when I have to go into solo queue and not many in our clan play Gambit anymore. It's played out.
I know this isn't super important, but what Scout Rifle is Datto using in this? (in the Grand Overture segment starting at 10:07)
It's called the Servant Leader, it only drops from Gambit.
My opinion has finally arrived.
Cross showed that Grand Overture is by far and above the best dps machine gun.
That’s not saying much though haha
@@GrimCitizen It is pretty substantial actually. I can’t remember what exactly the numbers were, but it was at the lower echelon of the high dps weapons. I think it had at least 50 thousand? on every other machine gun. I’m not saying that I would ever use it for dps, but I think most people underestimate it quite a bit.
It is just so not fun to use. I wouldn't use it just for the damage if it isn't at least somewhat fun to use.
Think peoples complain with it is the fact that the wind up of the gun despite being called a machine gun, is god damn slow...
I mean sure it does a lot of dmg but why wait till you get to that top dps if you could chug a Gjallarhorn in an instant.
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Since grand overature is not a crit based weapon so it is pretty good on bosses where a crit is harder to hit. Its pretty good on caretaker especially when he wants to spin during damage phase. Not as good when div is present since then you can more easily hit crits with other guns.
Grand overture honestly has amazing ammo econ and is very good in arc burn shit, I used it in some mid tier content and then again in the first week of gg in the arc burn it slapped, dead messenger being like borealis is cool and honestly it gets lots of pvp use and is decent in match game since wave frames are good, perfectly balanced imo.
Dead messenger helped me get through the legendary campaign after I completed it the first time
Hey Datto, love the idea of archiving streams, but do be swear that twitch TOS requires 24 hours between stream and uploading on another site
oh my god I didn't even realize you could change the damage type on the vox exotic until now
That's what makes it exotic. How could you miss that
For me the psi ops are the best matchmade content bungie created since menagerie. For the first time in years I could grind a activity that long.... u know just for fun
They mixed old and new content perfectly and are the perfect step up from the normal battlegrounds from last year.
Oh you didnt like controlled demo? The healing with volatile flow felt pretty good
Regarding the Glaives, as a hunter I stopped using them after the suppression changes lol. Got it to level 43, havent used it since.
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I prefer if they do every season reveal like like this, I want the bare bones of what’s happening, and I hope to be surprised when I get on post season reset
I think Glaives are going to follow the same pattern we saw with Bows when they arrived with Forsaken. A few minutes of hype while they're the brand new thing, followed by a general drop off as people go back to their old reliables. Over time, I bet we see a general resurgence from a very dedicated section of the community, but I doubt they'll ever compete with any of the standard specials in PvP or PvE without some much bigger buffs or seasonal mod metas
I agree but at the same time bows fundamentally have a much better place in end game content since they are long range, compared to glaives which are for the most part only viable in easy content
Datto what is the deal with the seasonal Critical Insight triumph ? Im season rank 300 and have focused countless engrams and the bloody thing still won't complete. Very deflating tbh.
I'm guessing volatile rounds mod will come back as something you slot for 5 instead of just 2
Crow has been involved in so much of the story and i still feel like I couldnt tell you a thing about him
Would’ve loved to experience the story, but about half way through my operation Elbrus disappeared and was nowhere to be found
I wish the story leaned more into are we the bad guy, do we just think we are the good guy? The whole reading minds was torture was an interesting angle I don't think was fleshed out.
From a game point I wish weapon crafting let us break down guns and take a perk to put on another copy of that gun rather than the blueprints we got. It would be great with pally going away if I had a way to build a god roll
I did have a lot of fun with this season. I haven't had as much time to play so there's still a few things I wish I could knock out just not enough time. :(
Personally, I like glaives just because they are fun. Sure, they arent the best, but I like my big hittin’ stick.
Agreed! Not everything has to be endgame meta... glaives are fun to mess around with in strikes and lower level content.
@@KyleJWest-vn9kn Stole the words right from my mouth. Please give them back.
I like the versatility of glaives. Pairing one with Outbreak Perfected gives me close- and long-range chip options while a rocket launcher gives me burst damage. It just feels like a balanced loadout with few weaknesses.
@@christianglassel9950 that’s what I tend to run when im not doing weapon levelling
@@KyleJWest-vn9kn also fun in the random crucible match. Not everyone expects the 2 smack kill
I would argue Void 3.0 is seasonal content, due the counterparts being seasonal, impact on all platforms, etc.
Sure, you can argue development extended longer than seasonal content would, but Arc 3.0 and Solar 3.0 will be lumped with seasons moving forward (especially as seasonal mods will favor the elemental flavor, as Void had).
Fair is fair, and accordingly, I believe this season brings SOLID content for being released alongside WQ. Good sign for the future 👌.
Question about the stream channel: Will your stream *highlight* videos be staying here, are they moving to the new channel, or will they be discontinued entirely?
Same I can’t wait for next season to be surprised I don’t know why people are so bent out of shape over not knowing what elements gonna come next I think it’s because people are really excited and I think that’s awesome but like there are so many people complaining that we don’t know what’s gonna happen yet and it’s like come on guys it’s next week week I don’t know why from what I’ve seen the majority of the community is so bent out of shape glad somebody agrees with me that it’s good to be a surprise because most of the time with this kind of stuff Bungie tells us in advance it’s good to be a surprise imo A nice change of pace
How about full Vow of the Disciple day one stream?
its amazing how many people are angry about no info about the new season. I agree with you, its exciting going into a new season blind.
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I’m gonna put the stream videos on whilst I play weekend league on fifa from now
Yes we want to watch more of you because you are cool