Thank you Paul! When I was just 18 and irascible, a pupil of Marvin P. Brown, I was brought back to earth by DeStael and have been trying to stay on the ground for the last fifty years. I have subscribed. GIVE US MORE! PULEEZE!!!
I've been drawn to abstract painting my whole life. As much as I admire the Dutch Golden Age as a photographer (they were masters of lighting) nothing speaks to me emotionally like the early modern art movement. Thank you for this video.
Thank you for your comments. If you wouldn't mind, I would be interested if you elaborated on how early modern art speaks to you emotionally. Thank you, again. Paul
Very good explanation. To me, you helped explain great composition vs. not so great composition. I've been painting and selling work for many years. I started teaching adult beginning and intermediate students about a dozen years ago. In explaining composition, your explanation of asymmetrical balance is going to help me explain, to a more thorough level, composition to my students. Thank you.
Thank you for your comment. I am thrilled to hear that you'll pass these ideas to your students as it's one my goals to transform this lost information into common knowledge.
Wonderful video. I think the size and direction of the brushstrokes are part of achieving the balance. I wonder if the painting still feels balanced when rotated or flipped.
Thank you for your comment. I agree with your point of view. Using this methodology provides total freedom yet abosulute precision. Good question about whether these images would balance rotated or flipped. I bet they do because balance is not just left to right, it's top to bottom, as well.
Thank you very much for your kind comment. I am glad you got something out of the video. There"s a free course on Meetup.com where you can learn more about these ideas, if you wish: www.meetup.com/greatestphotoworkshoponearth/
Thank you very much for your kind comment. I am glad you got something out of the video. There"s a free course on Meetup where you can learn more about these ideas, if you wish: www.meetup.com/greatestphotoworkshoponearth/ If you have any questions, please feel free to ask. Thanks again, Paul
Thank you for your comment. If you are interested, I facilitate a 1 hour online workshop based on these ideas - that other artists have gotten a lot out of. It's less than $20. Here's a link to the description. If you have any questions, please feel free to ask: www.airbnb.ca/experiences/2015855
Great photos! I noticed the compositional sense immediately! I could look at an entire photo book of your work and would be proud to have it on display in my home!
Well sir, I am very touched by your comments. If you wish, I have included below, a link to my online photos: www.flickr.com/photos/145424712@N06/ Also, if you are interested to learn how to take photos in this manner, click the link below to view information about no-cost workshops I facilitate: www.meetup.com/greatestphotoworkshoponearth/ Thank you for your kind comments.
Sir, I've thought about it and I would like to offer that if you wish to have a print of one of my photogaphs I would get it made and send it to you. Just pick out a photo and let me know the size you want. I'll charge you only the cost of the enlargement and shipping. I'll sign the print because, hey, you never know - perhaps after I am dead this thing might be worth something. I'll let you know the cost beforehand.
@@paulfremes Paul, what an awesome offer and yes, I will take you up on that! I had it down to 4 photos and I've chosen #9038 form page 13. This composition is stunning! If you could do a 15" X 15" Paul, that would be great. My wife and I are really looking forward to have a piece of your work! Thank you again for your generosity! Jay
@@jayumble8390 Not a problem. Just to make sure we're talking about the same photo, do you mean the one with the pink chair, yellow table on the right with a diagonal beam of light in the background?: www.flickr.com/photos/145424712@N06/30946442208/in/dateposted-public/ If I may ask, out of curiosity, what were the other 3 you chose? I'll go get a quote for printing and shipping. To do so, if you wish to keep your address private you can email me your delivery address at: pfremes@gmail.com. Sir, I just checked out your TH-cam channel. You understand these ideas, as well! Lovely video. If I may ask, where did you learn the ideas of balance? So few people in the world understand them, which is why I am trying to proliferate them with these videos. Thank you, Paul
But I would have to share, in regards to de Kooning that my work shared something in his art as an influence probably from my years in high school. In fact some techniques he employed I would have discovered sooner had I actually studied his work in greater depth. The retrospective did reveal technique that I spent years developing because I had not formally studied his career. He and I had both arrived at the same conclusion many years apart in our travel along the less traveled paths of painting.
do not forget to call out that he leaves no boundaries. it does not stop where there is no canvas. I think one of the greatest mistakes some art shows to have is to place the object in the middle of the work. and leave it at that. this is the most natural cost of beauty. One should envision how the work goes on (without missing it).
Excelent video on abstract composition. I knew what it was, but I've never heard of the term brightness weight illusion till now. I'd enjoy hearing more on this more on this. For those interested in DeKooning's working process and techniques, get the book W.D. The Artist's Matrerials. Well worth it.
Thank you for your comment. For more information on this subject click the link in the description regarding no-cost workshops that explore this subject.
I think I understood your statements reasonably well. What in your opinion is the meaning of "art"? To do/create something difficult to do or perhaps something no one else has done? Just those, not those, or more? What?? To me art is a creation that touches me, creates feelings (or thoughts) in me, or provokes me, all can be in a good or bad way. In that sense, this piece did not do it for me, though many other de Kooning pieces do, some very much so. It obviously provoked and triggered a sense of surprise, admiration, and thought (about balance, math., etc.) in you. So, in my definition of art it is good art to you, while not much to me! Please note that my point of view (and the definition of art) is only from and for the receiving side/person, not that of the creating artist. I am not even remotely attempting to guess why he painted this piece, whether he thought about it long/at all, or just felt a certain emotion he had to express, was happy, sad, thinking about balance/math/technique, etc. I am interested to hear your definition of art for the observer (listener, viewer, etc.). And, of course, if you have more of a guess why he painted this particular piece it would be nice to hear that too! That said, I do not think we should generally spend any time trying to understand what the artist was trying to say. He said what he was trying to say (if anything). If we do not get it he did not achieve his goal. Maybe that is our loss! Question: If you do not understand this long and intentionally rambling comment about your video, is it your fault that perhaps you did not think enough etc., or my failure and fault (or maybe even that of my English as second language), or the very fact that it is/was long (again intentionally long to make a point), had typos, etc.? Should you even think about what I must/could have wanted to say? Fact is that I had a medium, an idea, and in this case a purpose (expressing my specific thoughts for you and others to appreciate) but did not succeed doing so! So what? That is that! As for your photographs, to me they are more, much more, artistic than this painting and indeed the best part of your video, which btw is very "unbalanced". Most of your photos meet my definition of "art". I should not, and do not (and did not) think what was he (you) thinking when he took that pictures, or what was he trying to say, what feeling was supposed to be conveyed to me, etc. They all happened. It does not even matter if I got out of those pictures the same that was intended by you! If you want specifics of why I liked them or what I got/appreciated --regardless of what you said about them in your video: I appreciated the compositions and b&w nature and lighting. Will go look at the again now. Thank you for responding!!
Thank you for your message. I am happy to answer your questions, however, I should point out that the purpose of the video was to shed light on the concepts of asymmetrical balance and the brightness/weight illusion - ideas that for the most part have been lost - that I strive to make common knowledge because this understanding adds a wonderful new dimension to my experience and understanding of art - I wish to share with others. I was not trying to say this particular painting is good. I was simply using it as an example to illustrate the use of the concepts mentioned above. Having said that, I am not sure if an articulation of my opinion of what the meaning of art is, is really relevant. All I am trying to do is say, 'look how the author made every part work in relationship to each other - it's not just a random splattering of paint'. I agree with your statements about what art can do for the viewer. I don't have a short definition of the meaning of art because I've seen so many different types of art that do so many different things. I don't know if this is of any help to you but, I can tell you I have little to no interest in most pre-1840 A.D. art because prior to that time the focus seemed to be P.R. for the Church, showing off technical skills, recording or idealizing 'pretty' scenes or subjects. Thank you for your kind feedback on my photographs. I hope this of use to you.
Mr. Paul Fremes explained basic concepts in art that are taught in good institutions in the first semester. I remembered those studies. Yes, de Kooning took over W. Kandinsky's discovery of the great Abstraction in "The First Blue Abstraction" (the first abstraction). Together with P. Mondrian (hard abstraction), they are the forerunners of the Great Abstraction. For more than 100 years, no cardinal was invented in this direction with some exceptions: P. Soulages, G. Richter... and others, who brought: in form and space, technique, color, structure, etc. something new within the Great Abstraction. I do not touch other currents in art such as cubism, pop art, hyperrealism, op art, surrealism, primitivism, etc. which does not interest me at the moment. You (above) if you don't have art studies, do you want solutions ready in 5 minutes? It won't be like that. And if you don't like and don't understand abstract art, that's your problem.
Muy interesante tu explicacion , soy artista y por supuesto uno conoce estas reglas de composicion y simetria oero siemore es bueno escuchar unacexplicacip fresca te recomiendo ver la obra de un fotografo chileno ,que trabajaba asi tambien. Sergio larrain ! Muchas gracias !
Thanks for creating and sharing quality content, I'd just suggest please make the paintings bigger next time if possible,even on TV screen I wish I could look at a bigger picture. What's the real size of it, please? (ignore please if you put it in thevideo description, forgot to look in itbefore commenting). Like!
Thank you for your comment. I could make the painting slightly larger, however, I am limited by the frame height of the video. I did a Google search for you and learned the size of the original painting: 152.4 by 137.2 cm. Executed in 1977. I hope that helps.
Most people are not educated about Art and others think they are or think they know. That's why quite a few high-end abstract Artworks look like just a bunch of paint splattered on a canvas to some and very well may be. An Artist's Art is a communication of an idea, concept, mood, feeling Etc... to an audience whether it be one person or group's of people. If the Artist's "Art" does not convey the artist's communication very well or is misinterpreted or not understood Etc... to that degree, it fails to be Good "ART" and thus communicates poorly, and if it fails to communicate at all it fails to be "ART" at all but to a few who I deem under the "The Emperor has no Close Effect." This is one of the fundamental problems and controversies about Modern and Contemporary art such as Abstract, Expressionism, Impressionism Etc...
Hans Hoffmann offers the idea of color and what he called architonics. A dynamism of the deep relationships that only happen when colors ar next to each other as in this work. Thanks for sharing it!
Whillgen is the great. .si es hermoso y yo adoré su pintura ...fue un icono .....y un compulsivo actor de sus telas ...no estuve cerca de ellas ..pero es cool al final
Personally I think art as a whole.. Is in ones ability to make the unobvious beautiful and make us look at the obvious, through a different lense. We can get analytical ad nauseam or use mathematics of values and balance all we like.. but in the end... does "it" command our attention? If yes.. Its art if no, then no.
Thank you for your comment. You are correct about the red not being the darkest. I am arguing that the large red shape on the center, bottom, right is the most dominant.
I view the top/centre dark shape as the strongest elements in this work. Perhaps subconsciously, because it's DeKooning, It appears to be the focal point - a female bodice and resting arm, with all other shapes leading to this unusual spot. Am I over-reaching?
Thank you for your kind comment. It changed my life when I figured this out. It happened in one moment and felt like being struck by lightning. I elaborate on this and give participants the opportunity to actually try it during a 1 hour online workshop. If you wish, click the link for details - $15.75 US: www.airbnb.ca/experiences/2015855 . If you have any questions, please feel free to ask. Thanks again.
@@paulfremes So a 1 hr work shop for 15.75? I'll probably check that out. I'm painting now and your video concept here I used immediately - to positive impact.
@@murraymarshawn2175 Really? Would you mind sharing with me a photo of the painting your working on and how used the concept? My email address is: pfremes@gmail.com. I'd like to be able to show others an example of how these ideas are used - beyond examples of my work and the work of masters. Thank you.
There is a big difference between a painting looking like a mess and a painting that actually is a mess. Just try painting like De Koonig - it is a lot harder than you think.
Thank you for your comment. I think you may have missed the intention I had for this video. I was trying to say that de Kooning's work is highly structured.
The thinking that goes into a painting like this deKooning isn’t very different from the thinking that Andrew Wyeth put into his paintings. There are massive differences but each painter would recognize the visual logic in the other’s painting.
I like your comment and I appreciate your adding it here. I agree that abstract painting can exhibit the exact same balance methodology as a representational painting, however, I disagree with the specific example of Andrew Wyeth. I feel that although Mr. Wyeth had exceptional skill in representing reality and depicting wonderful feelings like a curtain delicately moving in a breeze, I don't see that he understood balance. Compositionally, I feel his images suffer from lost opportunities he had in potentially creating relationships between objects. If an image exhibited strong form it seems it was serendipitous such as, Ring Road, 1985. That's a lovely painting. However, Distant Thunder, 1980, for example, the wonderful mood in the moment he captured is compensating for the lack of structure this image exhibits. I can't look at Wyeth's work because of this dichotomy. The moods are great but the structure is often not up to its potential. And hey, each to their own. If you love Wyeth I can certainly see why. He was an excellent painter. It's just there was this whole other dimension that could have been included. Many American painters don't exhibit use of these ideas and it's not their fault. These ideas originated in Europe and have never been clearly documented in English. That's essentially what I am trying to do with my video series.
@@paulfremes I always wanted to make a video explaining on how hip hop / rap music, especially in The Tribe Called Quest Era. How that relates to how art started as being realistic to abstract and cubism. Like music went from classical to sort of abstract sampling parts of classical music and creating an art form, which is misunderstood by some like for abstract art may look simple but it’s actually very complex art.
Paintings should be understood and have emotional values with out any explanation, I am afraid your explanation make the case more complicated for the viewers.
I love art but learned with Warhol that you have to be in the club to be successful. Art and charities are big in the laundering business. People now believe me because of the corruption with United way, the red cross and Hunter's art.
Ok, you are able to find a design element(s) or two, but is it attractive, tell a story, or provide enjoyment. On all three points, this painting losses. Yes it is my opinion, but so is this video a person's opinion. I worked in factories when I was younger and this looks like industrial waste-to me. How is the orange area on the left is dark, it appears to be a midtone to me?
I have a suspicion that you are not really seeking an answer, however, my goal is to help people understand these concepts because they've helped me a great deal in getting more out of looking at and creating art. If you are interested to enter a discussion about this subject, please provide a more detailed question. Thank you.
Thank you for your comment. My apologies, it's hard for me to tell if someone is ranting or is open to intellectual discourse but, here goes: Because we are at a point in time where someone can throw paint uncontrolled at a canvas or apply one color across an entire canvas using a roller - as one would paint a bathroom wall - and it can be considered art - I feel art is currently in a 'dark age'. Most abstract art I have seen is, in my opinion, bad because it appears the artist is attempting to come off as using the spontaneous aspects of de Kooning or Pollock without any of those artists rigorous structural skills. This video is an argument that the de Kooning painting in question is a masterpiece because it exhibits de Kooning's ability to bring his entire being to the creation of a painting - both his emotional, spontaneous, aggressive side and his precision, intellectual, mathematical self. It is when someone can bring themselves on all levels to execution that something truly great can be created. When someone angrily throws paint at a canvas they are only bringing 50% of themselves to the image. When someone responds to this argument with, 'beauty is in the eye of the beholder', that's true. We are free to say and think what we want. However, I feel imagery can be much better when we bring our entire selves to the process. de Kooning did.
Sir, I have suspicion that you are not interested in an intellectual exchange, however, I will just put it out there that the purpose of this video (and others I've produced about paintings) are to provide new insights. If you read through the comments, most people appreciate the insights and, if you look at other painting videos I've created the images depicted are of some of humanity's greatest artistic achiemetns accepted globally as wonderful images - such as paintings by Claude Monet. Paintings by Monet certainly do not require explanation to understand, however, I believe I offer insights allowing people to get more enjoyment from looking these masterpieces. I will not reply to any angry or aggressive responses to this message. Thank you for your time.
its not a painting,its a joke...asimetrical balance))) its about puting some oil on canvas and looking smart...hmm absolute spontaniety..for me its absolute crap..but to explain shortly its mistification...to insinuate that there is more than you see ..and the most important humas visual is made to look for a form,a face or something else even tghough there isnt..thats the trick
Normally, I do not respond to negative comments because there's often no chance for a productive intellectual discussion. However, in this case I felt somethng good could come from responding to you, sir. When making a written argument it's helpful to check spelling an grammar to give power to your point.
@@mihailamarcel5201 we used to say, "calling a spade a spade". now we can't say that. or maybe, "who should I believe? you or my lying eyes". words their usage and meanings. I believe I was in the Philadelphia Museum of Art getting my big city art fix and happened upon a huge room of "color field" painters: Rothko. a big gallery that I and the guard shared alone. Museumers are a thin slice of the population. But, most show up to view what is on the wall. Plus they have to pay to get in. These people made the effort to visit, read, view, and learn. did I say the room was empty? say, we are in a cave in France and happen upon 50 spit images of hands. spit, images, and hands are words that immediately come to mind. Entering Rothko's cave and confronted with 20 paintings that could be found in any ghetto. one thinks; cheap solutions for covering unwanted graffiti? or a sign that once read, "blacks pick up window". or maybe, "no parking. you will be towed". those are the thoughts of a 77-year-old artist who thinks he knows "what's going on".... Marvin Gaye. ...mercy mercy mercy me....
It needs no explanation. Just remove your learnt idea of recreating an image being the highest achievement, instead of learning about composition in space and colour.
Thank you Paul! When I was just 18 and irascible, a pupil of Marvin P. Brown, I was brought back to earth by DeStael and have been trying to stay on the ground for the last fifty years. I have subscribed. GIVE US MORE! PULEEZE!!!
Really enjoyed it. Opened up new way of seeing. I’m an artist and appreciate your take on asymmetrical balance.
Thank you for your kind feedback. I am glad you appreciated the video.
I've been drawn to abstract painting my whole life. As much as I admire the Dutch Golden Age as a photographer (they were masters of lighting) nothing speaks to me emotionally like the early modern art movement. Thank you for this video.
Thank you for your comments. If you wouldn't mind, I would be interested if you elaborated on how early modern art speaks to you emotionally. Thank you, again. Paul
My favorite painter and a big part of why I like his work. I like your photographs.
I’ll be watching your future videos. Thanks
Very good explanation. To me, you helped explain great composition vs. not so great composition. I've been painting and selling work for many years. I started teaching adult beginning and intermediate students about a dozen years ago. In explaining composition, your explanation of asymmetrical balance is going to help me explain, to a more thorough level, composition to my students. Thank you.
Thank you for your comment. I am thrilled to hear that you'll pass these ideas to your students as it's one my goals to transform this lost information into common knowledge.
Wonderful video.
I think the size and direction of the brushstrokes are part of achieving the balance. I wonder if the painting still feels balanced when rotated or flipped.
Thank you for your comment. I agree with your point of view. Using this methodology provides total freedom yet abosulute precision. Good question about whether these images would balance rotated or flipped. I bet they do because balance is not just left to right, it's top to bottom, as well.
thank you for your explanation on this study case. It put in to confusion in no time
Love de Kooning…flew to the NYMet to see a retrospective….all the way from the west coast! Was not disappointed in the show!
Great insight into De Kooning’s process … learnt lots so thanks 🙏🏻❤️🇦🇺
Thank you very much for your kind comment. I am glad you got something out of the video. There"s a free course on Meetup.com where you can learn more about these ideas, if you wish: www.meetup.com/greatestphotoworkshoponearth/
Asymmetrical balance is how perspective is, and De Kooning is a master at that and that's why he can do this.
... They've recently discovered his micro-photography collection of details of Impressionist paintings.
I really enjoyed your video. Can you please make a video on Philip Guston.
Thank you for your comment.
A big Thank You to you Paul for this video. Finally, I am able to understand this kind of art better. More videos like this will be such a treat.
Thank you very much for your kind comment. I am glad you got something out of the video. There"s a free course on Meetup where you can learn more about these ideas, if you wish:
www.meetup.com/greatestphotoworkshoponearth/
If you have any questions, please feel free to ask.
Thanks again,
Paul
Thank you. I love painting.
Thank you for your comment.
Your spot on. I’m glad to have found your video. Asymmetrical balance is part of what makes my abstracts readable
Thank you for your comment. If you are interested, I facilitate a 1 hour online workshop based on these ideas - that other artists have gotten a lot out of. It's less than $20. Here's a link to the description. If you have any questions, please feel free to ask: www.airbnb.ca/experiences/2015855
Great photos! I noticed the compositional sense immediately! I could look at an entire photo book of your work and would be proud to have it on display in my home!
Well sir, I am very touched by your comments. If you wish, I have included below, a link to my online photos:
www.flickr.com/photos/145424712@N06/
Also, if you are interested to learn how to take photos in this manner, click the link below to view information about no-cost workshops I facilitate:
www.meetup.com/greatestphotoworkshoponearth/
Thank you for your kind comments.
Sir, I've thought about it and I would like to offer that if you wish to have a print of one of my photogaphs I would get it made and send it to you. Just pick out a photo and let me know the size you want. I'll charge you only the cost of the enlargement and shipping. I'll sign the print because, hey, you never know - perhaps after I am dead this thing might be worth something. I'll let you know the cost beforehand.
@@paulfremes Paul, what an awesome offer and yes, I will take you up on that! I had it down to 4 photos and I've chosen #9038 form page 13. This composition is stunning! If you could do a 15" X 15" Paul, that would be great. My wife and I are really looking forward to have a piece of your work! Thank you again for your generosity! Jay
@@jayumble8390 Not a problem. Just to make sure we're talking about the same photo, do you mean the one with the pink chair, yellow table on the right with a diagonal beam of light in the background?:
www.flickr.com/photos/145424712@N06/30946442208/in/dateposted-public/
If I may ask, out of curiosity, what were the other 3 you chose?
I'll go get a quote for printing and shipping.
To do so, if you wish to keep your address private you can email me your delivery address at: pfremes@gmail.com.
Sir, I just checked out your TH-cam channel. You understand these ideas, as well! Lovely video. If I may ask, where did you learn the ideas of balance? So few people in the world understand them, which is why I am trying to proliferate them with these videos.
Thank you,
Paul
@@jayumble8390 I forgot to ask, do you want glossy or pearl finish and, do you want a white border or borderless?
AWESOME! Thanks for showing.
Thank you for your comment.
But I would have to share, in regards to de Kooning that my work shared something in his art as an influence probably from my years in high school. In fact some techniques he employed I would have discovered sooner had I actually studied his work in greater depth. The retrospective did reveal technique that I spent years developing because I had not formally studied his career. He and I had both arrived at the same conclusion many years apart in our travel along the less traveled paths of painting.
A very useful video sir. Please keep making more such videos
Thank you for your comment.
do not forget to call out that he leaves no boundaries.
it does not stop where there is no canvas.
I think one of the greatest mistakes some art shows to have is to place the object in the middle of the work.
and leave it at that. this is the most natural cost of beauty.
One should envision how the work goes on (without missing it).
Excelent video on abstract composition. I knew what it was, but I've never heard of the term brightness weight illusion till now. I'd enjoy hearing more on this more on this.
For those interested in DeKooning's working process and techniques, get the book W.D. The Artist's Matrerials. Well worth it.
Thank you for your comment. For more information on this subject click the link in the description regarding no-cost workshops that explore this subject.
Really enjoy this video.
Thank you for your kind feedback.
I think I understood your statements reasonably well. What in your opinion is the meaning of "art"? To do/create something difficult to do or perhaps something no one else has done? Just those, not those, or more? What?? To me art is a creation that touches me, creates feelings (or thoughts) in me, or provokes me, all can be in a good or bad way. In that sense, this piece did not do it for me, though many other de Kooning pieces do, some very much so. It obviously provoked and triggered a sense of surprise, admiration, and thought (about balance, math., etc.) in you. So, in my definition of art it is good art to you, while not much to me! Please note that my point of view (and the definition of art) is only from and for the receiving side/person, not that of the creating artist. I am not even remotely attempting to guess why he painted this piece, whether he thought about it long/at all, or just felt a certain emotion he had to express, was happy, sad, thinking about balance/math/technique, etc. I am interested to hear your definition of art for the observer (listener, viewer, etc.). And, of course, if you have more of a guess why he painted this particular piece it would be nice to hear that too! That said, I do not think we should generally spend any time trying to understand what the artist was trying to say. He said what he was trying to say (if anything). If we do not get it he did not achieve his goal. Maybe that is our loss!
Question: If you do not understand this long and intentionally rambling comment about your video, is it your fault that perhaps you did not think enough etc., or my failure and fault (or maybe even that of my English as second language), or the very fact that it is/was long (again intentionally long to make a point), had typos, etc.? Should you even think about what I must/could have wanted to say? Fact is that I had a medium, an idea, and in this case a purpose (expressing my specific thoughts for you and others to appreciate) but did not succeed doing so! So what? That is that!
As for your photographs, to me they are more, much more, artistic than this painting and indeed the best part of your video, which btw is very "unbalanced". Most of your photos meet my definition of "art". I should not, and do not (and did not) think what was he (you) thinking when he took that pictures, or what was he trying to say, what feeling was supposed to be conveyed to me, etc. They all happened. It does not even matter if I got out of those pictures the same that was intended by you! If you want specifics of why I liked them or what I got/appreciated --regardless of what you said about them in your video: I appreciated the compositions and b&w nature and lighting. Will go look at the again now. Thank you for responding!!
Thank you for your message. I am happy to answer your questions, however, I should point out that the purpose of the video was to shed light on the concepts of asymmetrical balance and the brightness/weight illusion - ideas that for the most part have been lost - that I strive to make common knowledge because this understanding adds a wonderful new dimension to my experience and understanding of art - I wish to share with others.
I was not trying to say this particular painting is good. I was simply using it as an example to illustrate the use of the concepts mentioned above.
Having said that, I am not sure if an articulation of my opinion of what the meaning of art is, is really relevant. All I am trying to do is say, 'look how the author made every part work in relationship to each other - it's not just a random splattering of paint'.
I agree with your statements about what art can do for the viewer. I don't have a short definition of the meaning of art because I've seen so many different types of art that do so many different things. I don't know if this is of any help to you but, I can tell you I have little to no interest in most pre-1840 A.D. art because prior to that time the focus seemed to be P.R. for the Church, showing off technical skills, recording or idealizing 'pretty' scenes or subjects.
Thank you for your kind feedback on my photographs.
I hope this of use to you.
Mr. Paul Fremes explained basic concepts in art that are taught in good institutions in the first semester. I remembered those studies.
Yes, de Kooning took over W. Kandinsky's discovery of the great Abstraction in "The First Blue Abstraction" (the first abstraction). Together with P. Mondrian (hard abstraction), they are the forerunners of the Great Abstraction. For more than 100 years, no cardinal was invented in this direction with some exceptions: P. Soulages, G. Richter... and others, who brought: in form and space, technique, color, structure, etc. something new within the Great Abstraction.
I do not touch other currents in art such as cubism, pop art, hyperrealism, op art, surrealism, primitivism, etc. which does not interest me at the moment.
You (above) if you don't have art studies, do you want solutions ready in 5 minutes? It won't be like that. And if you don't like and don't understand abstract art, that's your problem.
I learned something new, thank you :)
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Muy interesante tu explicacion , soy artista y por supuesto uno conoce estas reglas de composicion y simetria oero siemore es bueno escuchar unacexplicacip fresca te recomiendo ver la obra de un fotografo chileno ,que trabajaba asi tambien. Sergio larrain ! Muchas gracias !
Gracias por tu comentario y por mencionar a Sergio Larrain.
Thanks for creating and sharing quality content, I'd just suggest please make the paintings bigger next time if possible,even on TV screen I wish I could look at a bigger picture. What's the real size of it, please? (ignore please if you put it in thevideo description, forgot to look in itbefore commenting). Like!
Thank you for your comment. I could make the painting slightly larger, however, I am limited by the frame height of the video. I did a Google search for you and learned the size of the original painting: 152.4 by 137.2 cm. Executed in 1977. I hope that helps.
Most people are not educated about Art and others think they are or think they know. That's why quite a few high-end abstract Artworks look like just a bunch of paint splattered on a canvas to some and very well may be. An Artist's Art is a communication of an idea, concept, mood, feeling Etc... to an audience whether it be one person or group's of people. If the Artist's "Art" does not convey the artist's communication very well or is misinterpreted or not understood Etc... to that degree, it fails to be Good "ART" and thus communicates poorly, and if it fails to communicate at all it fails to be "ART" at all but to a few who I deem under the "The Emperor has no Close Effect." This is one of the fundamental problems and controversies about Modern and Contemporary art such as Abstract, Expressionism, Impressionism Etc...
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Well said. I just posted an intentionally made lengthy comment above trying to (mostly) say what you did very precisely!
It's what all artists do but it does not necessarily result in a work of art. Content is also highly rellevant.
Hans Hoffmann offers the idea of color and what he called architonics. A dynamism of the deep relationships that only happen when colors ar next to each other as in this work. Thanks for sharing it!
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Thank you.
Whillgen is the great. .si es hermoso y yo adoré su pintura ...fue un icono .....y un compulsivo actor de sus telas ...no estuve cerca de ellas ..pero es cool al final
Personally I think art as a whole.. Is in ones ability to make the unobvious beautiful and make us look at the obvious, through a different lense.
We can get analytical ad nauseam or use mathematics of values and balance all we like.. but in the end... does "it" command our attention? If yes.. Its art if no, then no.
Thank you for your comment. However, this video is not about what is art.
@@paulfremes I know it wasn't.. My comment was more about the assertion of people thinking abstract art as something a child can do
Fantastic video
I’m an artist, you explain it well for idiots, as I once was
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Like him,the red is not the darkest area, he also implies image,this was the disagreement with Pollack who by the way also returned to image.
Thank you for your comment. You are correct about the red not being the darkest. I am arguing that the large red shape on the center, bottom, right is the most dominant.
I view the top/centre dark shape as the strongest elements in this work. Perhaps subconsciously, because it's DeKooning, It appears to be the focal point - a female bodice and resting arm, with all other shapes leading to this unusual spot. Am I over-reaching?
Well, it is of course, just as you say. Brovo!
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Super - thank you
Amazing
Thank you for your kind comment. It changed my life when I figured this out. It happened in one moment and felt like being struck by lightning. I elaborate on this and give participants the opportunity to actually try it during a 1 hour online workshop. If you wish, click the link for details - $15.75 US: www.airbnb.ca/experiences/2015855 . If you have any questions, please feel free to ask. Thanks again.
@@paulfremes So a 1 hr work shop for 15.75? I'll probably check that out. I'm painting now and your video concept here I used immediately - to positive impact.
@@murraymarshawn2175 Really? Would you mind sharing with me a photo of the painting your working on and how used the concept? My email address is: pfremes@gmail.com. I'd like to be able to show others an example of how these ideas are used - beyond examples of my work and the work of masters. Thank you.
Thank you
You're welcome. Thank you for your comment.
There is a big difference between a painting looking like a mess and a painting that actually is a mess. Just try painting like De Koonig - it is a lot harder than you think.
Thank you for your comment. I think you may have missed the intention I had for this video. I was trying to say that de Kooning's work is highly structured.
The thinking that goes into a painting like this deKooning isn’t very different from the thinking that Andrew Wyeth put into his paintings. There are massive differences but each painter would recognize the visual logic in the other’s painting.
I like your comment and I appreciate your adding it here. I agree that abstract painting can exhibit the exact same balance methodology as a representational painting, however, I disagree with the specific example of Andrew Wyeth.
I feel that although Mr. Wyeth had exceptional skill in representing reality and depicting wonderful feelings like a curtain delicately moving in a breeze, I don't see that he understood balance.
Compositionally, I feel his images suffer from lost opportunities he had in potentially creating relationships between objects. If an image exhibited strong form it seems it was serendipitous such as, Ring Road, 1985. That's a lovely painting. However, Distant Thunder, 1980, for example, the wonderful mood in the moment he captured is compensating for the lack of structure this image exhibits.
I can't look at Wyeth's work because of this dichotomy. The moods are great but the structure is often not up to its potential. And hey, each to their own. If you love Wyeth I can certainly see why. He was an excellent painter. It's just there was this whole other dimension that could have been included.
Many American painters don't exhibit use of these ideas and it's not their fault. These ideas originated in Europe and have never been clearly documented in English. That's essentially what I am trying to do with my video series.
Bs , what choice was there ? All red or all white ? The best abstraction has no conscious input , that , makes it hard ,or easy ?
Hip hop is like abstract painting
Can you explain how?
@@paulfremes I always wanted to make a video explaining on how hip hop / rap music, especially in The Tribe Called Quest Era. How that relates to how art started as being realistic to abstract and cubism. Like music went from classical to sort of abstract sampling parts of classical music and creating an art form, which is misunderstood by some like for abstract art may look simple but it’s actually very complex art.
@@fernandotjameya4859 Thank you. Please let me know when that video is ready.
El pintaba perfomances
The king is in the altogether the altogether the altogether the altogether as naked as the day that he was born😂
Paintings should be understood and have emotional values with out any explanation, I am afraid your explanation make the case more complicated for the viewers.
Conjecture.... Conjecture.... Conjecture....
No puedo copiarlo ...es tan auténtico
I love art but learned with Warhol that you have to be in the club to be successful. Art and charities are big in the laundering business. People now believe me because of the corruption with United way, the red cross and Hunter's art.
depends on what ”successful” entails for you
@@biocykle Selling paintings for ridiculous amounts.
@@swaters5127 oh okay then
@@biocykle Right back at ya.
images of kensington, vancouver and tenderloin lol
7 minutes ?
Still doesn't actually mean anything
Ok, you are able to find a design element(s) or two, but is it attractive, tell a story, or provide enjoyment. On all three points, this painting losses. Yes it is my opinion, but so is this video a person's opinion. I worked in factories when I was younger and this looks like industrial waste-to me. How is the orange area on the left is dark, it appears to be a midtone to me?
what?
I have a suspicion that you are not really seeking an answer, however, my goal is to help people understand these concepts because they've helped me a great deal in getting more out of looking at and creating art.
If you are interested to enter a discussion about this subject, please provide a more detailed question. Thank you.
If it shows form and structure then it is not truly abstract.
Thank you for your comment. My apologies, it's hard for me to tell if someone is ranting or is open to intellectual discourse but, here goes:
Because we are at a point in time where someone can throw paint uncontrolled at a canvas or apply one color across an entire canvas using a roller - as one would paint a bathroom wall - and it can be considered art - I feel art is currently in a 'dark age'.
Most abstract art I have seen is, in my opinion, bad because it appears the artist is attempting to come off as using the spontaneous aspects of de Kooning or Pollock without any of those artists rigorous structural skills.
This video is an argument that the de Kooning painting in question is a masterpiece because it exhibits de Kooning's ability to bring his entire being to the creation of a painting - both his emotional, spontaneous, aggressive side and his precision, intellectual, mathematical self.
It is when someone can bring themselves on all levels to execution that something truly great can be created.
When someone angrily throws paint at a canvas they are only bringing 50% of themselves to the image.
When someone responds to this argument with, 'beauty is in the eye of the beholder', that's true. We are free to say and think what we want. However, I feel imagery can be much better when we bring our entire selves to the process. de Kooning did.
I'm not feeling this artist much. I do sorta like Rothko's stuff, though.
i mean there’s something fundamentally wrong with a painting if U have to EXPLAIN what U SEE!!!!😂😂😂
Sir, I have suspicion that you are not interested in an intellectual exchange, however, I will just put it out there that the purpose of this video (and others I've produced about paintings) are to provide new insights. If you read through the comments, most people appreciate the insights and, if you look at other painting videos I've created the images depicted are of some of humanity's greatest artistic achiemetns accepted globally as wonderful images - such as paintings by Claude Monet.
Paintings by Monet certainly do not require explanation to understand, however, I believe I offer insights allowing people to get more enjoyment from looking these masterpieces.
I will not reply to any angry or aggressive responses to this message.
Thank you for your time.
You sound like you are trying to gaslight yourself. If he spent longer than 5 minutes on that painting, it was time wasted.
Having said that, I do like your videos and they are very informative.
Reaching for straws
its not a painting,its a joke...asimetrical balance))) its about puting some oil on canvas and looking smart...hmm absolute spontaniety..for me its absolute crap..but to explain shortly its mistification...to insinuate that there is more than you see ..and the most important humas visual is made to look for a form,a face or something else even tghough there isnt..thats the trick
Normally, I do not respond to negative comments because there's often no chance for a productive intellectual discussion. However, in this case I felt somethng good could come from responding to you, sir.
When making a written argument it's helpful to check spelling an grammar to give power to your point.
Usually when someone tels me about gramar I take as opopnent dont have an logical answer on my afiramtion,actually you cant have one
@@mihailamarcel5201 we used to say, "calling a spade a spade". now we can't say that. or maybe, "who should I believe? you or my lying eyes". words their usage and meanings. I believe I was in the Philadelphia Museum of Art getting my big city art fix and happened upon a huge room of "color field" painters: Rothko. a big gallery that I and the guard shared alone. Museumers are a thin slice of the population. But, most show up to view what is on the wall. Plus they have to pay to get in. These people made the effort to visit, read, view, and learn. did I say the room was empty? say, we are in a cave in France and happen upon 50 spit images of hands. spit, images, and hands are words that immediately come to mind. Entering Rothko's cave and confronted with 20 paintings that could be found in any ghetto. one thinks; cheap solutions for covering unwanted graffiti? or a sign that once read, "blacks pick up window". or maybe, "no parking. you will be towed". those are the thoughts of a 77-year-old artist who thinks he knows "what's going on".... Marvin Gaye. ...mercy mercy mercy me....
Art should not have to be explained
Perhaps not to you. As for me, I am learning and I like complex paintings explained to me.
According to who?
It needs no explanation. Just remove your learnt idea of recreating an image being the highest achievement, instead of learning about composition in space and colour.
@@archiebrackenridge7785 You just gave an explanation.
@@tinycuisine6544 An explanation in art theory not of an individual piece.
Form and structure...yet no content. A work of art must be about something. And not just an emotion.
Nah, overrated hack..
The photographs however are well composed and finely executed.
I don’t think De Kooning spent much time on this painting. Overthought crap.
One man's "overthought crap" another man's "purple fart"!