Recently, Glitchless has been split into Glitchless and Bug Limit, where this run would be considered Bug Limit due to being less restrictive. I'm simplifying, but many people felt that the Glitchless category was becoming overly complicated and filled with more and more grey areas. And so recent discoveries like Gerudo Gate Skip and Trials Skip, while not strictly glitches as they are just damage boosts, do cross a line with runners. But because they aren't glitches, they are allowed in Bug Limit
I feel like the makers of this category focused so much on defining what "glitchless" means that they missed the whole point of why you would want a glitchless category in the first place, which is to beat the game as fast as possible the way the game was intended to be played. This just seems like missing the forest for the trees.
Once you understand all of the games mechanics, it becomes impossible to play the game as "intended" because you realize that the devs put all sorts of mechanics in the game that you use normally all game long, but in certain areas give large advantages/time saves. Playing the game as "intended" whatever that means, I'm assuming you mean do everything in chronological order of the story, no jump tricks, etc would be incredibly boring and would have no competitive value and WR times would pretty much always be the same.
No it's not. If a developer oversight made it possible to skip some parts with tight jumps or careful plataforming then it's not a glitch, it's a developer's fault they didn't construct the level in a good way. Also len's of truth is intended, should he get it even tho he knows where every invis plataform is? Is reading every NPC dialogue also intended even if it's useless if you already know the info?
@@scantyer old thread, but Lens of Truth/dialogue is intended to give you information, if you already have that information then it's intended for you to use it instead of gathering it, because you already have it. LoT/dialogue don't change how you interact with the world or vice versa. Unlike dialogue with a trigger or items that change Link/enemies/world.
"sorry for the voice crack" dannyb, you're a hero and a gentleman. also the donation station reader has such a nice voice, she should do readings more often.
Haven't played Oot for 3 years. Get a huge nostalgia buzz watching this. Have memories of being dragged shopping with my mam and desperately wanting get back home to my N64 to play this, telling friends who called round that I was sick so I could keep playing, and occasionally looking at a strategy guide that idk where I got but the Forest Temple had it's pages ripped out. 99'
to everyone who thinks this is not a glitchless run: he used a metronome when doing owl skips so you should be screaming that it's a TAS (tool assisted speedrun) run instead
For those not sure on what the general difference between a glitch and an exploit is, here is a quick definition: Exploit: Using intended mechanics in unintended ways. Example; Using damage knockback to get to a ledge, abusing the length of a side hop Glitch: Using unintended mechanics. Example: Wrong Warps, Going through solid objects (Note, one way objects don't count), going Out of Bounds Now, in this run in particular as they explain they did make a list on what is and isn't allowed. To a layman, a lot of these are glitches but technically from a speedrunning/game mechanic standpoint they aren't.
A big example on what may seem like a Glitch but is actually an Exploit is when they hit switches through walls. There are puzzles where you need to do this so it intentional that you can do it, though not necessarily in those particular spots.
i just noticed that zelda's lullaby's notes kind of look like a triforce that's why every time there's a triforce symbol on the ground you play zelda's lullaby mind = blown
There is an intended% which is the true "glitchless" run. As for this, there were no game breaking tactics. The run was purely using intended mechanics (knock backs) and minor programing oversights (lack of collision detection on certain platforms) in different ways than the developers expected casual players to ever look for.
Glitches vs exploits are interesting. For instance, Mario 64. Backwards long jumping is a glitch, whereas sideflipping and wallkicking up to the star on the platform in whomps fortress (you’re intended to use the canon) that’s just abusing the wallkick mechanics that are intended.
this game only took me 16 years to finish xD I got stuck in that big friggin whale and after I while I just dumped the game, after watching this speed run and finding out how easy it actually was I fished my old n64 out of the bottom of my closet- amazing that it still works perfectly fine, and beat the game :D, funny enough it wasn't until they got to the whale u remembered I still had the old console and the game, I was just watching originally cuz I never spared myself enough time to see the game through
Tbh the owl skip seems like a clear glitch to me. Hear me out .. you preform frame perfect moves to clip into stuff which is glitch , so shouldndoing frame perfect tricks to skip an intended mechanic be the same ?
I dont really like how they decided what was and wasnt glitchless I mean I feel like they set anything that was a minor glitch as not a glitch I understand some of them but some of them i feel are really glitches "Glitchless lol"
Everyone always admires the music in OOT but I will never get over how amazing the the lighting is as time passes. It's hard to believe this is nearly a 20 year old game.
Can't wait for there to be a new category in OoT, TCC (Twitch Chat Compliant) Glitchless any% in which you have to finish the game with only moving normally, no skips at all, and nothing at all. What an exciting 9 hour run that would be, which even a 6 year old could do, and involves no routing or effort at all!
Wait a minute.. at the beginning when you defeat the spider (the first boss) and you go to that guy who doesn't let you pass the exit unless you get the stone.. (WITHOUT THE GLITCH) He says that Link killed The Great Deku Tree. Well, since he KNEW about that spider in there and he left it there (thinking that Link didn't kill Great Deku Tree) doesn't that mean that he LET it die? That's TWICE as bad. So, in conclusion, you can't be a "good" person either way. It's a lose-lose situation.
+SqLISTHESHIT it was $60 for tickets to the actual event, then you've got to pay for a hotel room unless you live in the location- they ran a GDQ special for $115 and night and we had to fly there to go so, it racks up, but definitely worth it if you're interested.
Yep, the two skulls closest to the torch are never correct, but the back three all have an equal third chance to be correct. So getting first try in this run was pretty lucky for me.
I guess if you stretch the definition thin enough, anything can technically be an exploit and not a glitch. Probably should have called it a Minor Glitch Run or something to that tune instead.
bobfrommi That's true. There were a few things that seemed a bit glitchy, but the bomb thing was the one I remember having questions about. I don't know, I'd have to watch it again. I don't think the run should be called glitchless, but I don't know what else to call it without it losing its value as a run. It really is just an arbitrary set of rules.
@@Xershade But both of those are glitches. In any case, we can both be happy that the glitchless category has since been split into 2 categories: actually glitchless and glitchless with glitches.
8:10 start of the run
Thanks champ
Some heroes don’t wear capes.
great couch, great audience, great runner, great run. 10/10 mweep
Recently, Glitchless has been split into Glitchless and Bug Limit, where this run would be considered Bug Limit due to being less restrictive.
I'm simplifying, but many people felt that the Glitchless category was becoming overly complicated and filled with more and more grey areas. And so recent discoveries like Gerudo Gate Skip and Trials Skip, while not strictly glitches as they are just damage boosts, do cross a line with runners. But because they aren't glitches, they are allowed in Bug Limit
I just noticed the audio is barley out of sync.
no it doesnt. i think it is ok in max quality and broken in the transcoded lower qualities. any1 know how to report this youtube error?
Open a 2nd video in an other browser screen. Mute one video and use the audio in the 2nd video to sync up to the first one
you cannot do that from android (at least not rooted one). plus it defeats the purpose of using a low bandwidth stream
mind blown. all these years of unsynced video. and to think that i work with recording audio...
I feel like the makers of this category focused so much on defining what "glitchless" means that they missed the whole point of why you would want a glitchless category in the first place, which is to beat the game as fast as possible the way the game was intended to be played.
This just seems like missing the forest for the trees.
Once you understand all of the games mechanics, it becomes impossible to play the game as "intended" because you realize that the devs put all sorts of mechanics in the game that you use normally all game long, but in certain areas give large advantages/time saves. Playing the game as "intended" whatever that means, I'm assuming you mean do everything in chronological order of the story, no jump tricks, etc would be incredibly boring and would have no competitive value and WR times would pretty much always be the same.
No it's not. If a developer oversight made it possible to skip some parts with tight jumps or careful plataforming then it's not a glitch, it's a developer's fault they didn't construct the level in a good way.
Also len's of truth is intended, should he get it even tho he knows where every invis plataform is? Is reading every NPC dialogue also intended even if it's useless if you already know the info?
@@scantyer old thread, but Lens of Truth/dialogue is intended to give you information, if you already have that information then it's intended for you to use it instead of gathering it, because you already have it. LoT/dialogue don't change how you interact with the world or vice versa. Unlike dialogue with a trigger or items that change Link/enemies/world.
Oh Nintendo.
I've only just realised after all of this time the Pun you had made with the King Zora.
He literally "Read it and Weeped"
Goddamnit he did as well
Is it John Cena? Cause I can't see it.
+Unidentiviable omg you watch speed runs too?? Lol we see each other everywhere 😂😂😂
+Unidentiviable hai 😋
+Jack Durston haha hallo :-)
I sexually identify as that "BEH!" sound that Link makes when he comes up from a dive.
"sorry for the voice crack" dannyb, you're a hero and a gentleman. also the donation station reader has such a nice voice, she should do readings more often.
does the metronome technically make this a tool-assisted speedrun? Kappa
no, there isn't an emulator
Don't worry, I got the joke. 👌
TheAj1028 i still got it, but i was just saying
Haven't played Oot for 3 years. Get a huge nostalgia buzz watching this. Have memories of being dragged shopping with my mam and desperately wanting get back home to my N64 to play this, telling friends who called round that I was sick so I could keep playing, and occasionally looking at a strategy guide that idk where I got but the Forest Temple had it's pages ripped out. 99'
Douglas Carthy no he said he was sick when his friends called so he could keep playing
Barry from gamegrups donating?
I literally thought the same thing XD
1:07:45 now
Wow. Literally NO clapping for his donation.
How lame.
to everyone who thinks this is not a glitchless run:
he used a metronome when doing owl skips so you should be screaming that it's a TAS (tool assisted speedrun) run instead
Why did the audio desync? It was fine this morning.
So funny when the left guy on the couch just shushes the crowd when they do the bongo bongo clap along with his drumming xD completely shutdown crowd
8:09
8:09 Since edit.
Thanks, I fixed it.
11:40 Before Edit. (Just to keep the history around.)
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up you go
tyvm!
1:08:56 my comment! It was nice that they read it, and i got a nice answer yes indeed :p
For those not sure on what the general difference between a glitch and an exploit is, here is a quick definition:
Exploit: Using intended mechanics in unintended ways. Example; Using damage knockback to get to a ledge, abusing the length of a side hop
Glitch: Using unintended mechanics. Example: Wrong Warps, Going through solid objects (Note, one way objects don't count), going Out of Bounds
Now, in this run in particular as they explain they did make a list on what is and isn't allowed. To a layman, a lot of these are glitches but technically from a speedrunning/game mechanic standpoint they aren't.
A big example on what may seem like a Glitch but is actually an Exploit is when they hit switches through walls. There are puzzles where you need to do this so it intentional that you can do it, though not necessarily in those particular spots.
@@Xershade
Yeah that's another solid way to put it.
canadian flag man at the beginning is a true hero
01:13:34 Door Of Time Skip Skip Takes About An Hour Of Setup *lmao*
02:38:53 that was a lovely laugh
i just noticed that zelda's lullaby's notes kind of look like a triforce
that's why every time there's a triforce symbol on the ground you play zelda's lullaby
mind = blown
11:38
There is 3m34s of delay between the sound and what happens. 2 windows, one with sounds on, best trick.
announcer does a really good navi impression like damn
There is an intended% which is the true "glitchless" run. As for this, there were no game breaking tactics. The run was purely using intended mechanics (knock backs) and minor programing oversights (lack of collision detection on certain platforms) in different ways than the developers expected casual players to ever look for.
Okay boot licker. Its not intended to skip the owl like that....
Audio is really out of sync
Anyone know the name of the video where he hit the navi text trigger over and over?
It's on his twitch highlights.
www.twitch.tv/dannyb21892/v/44109545
Great run, Great runner and also great couch! :)
Love watching these speedruns. Im guessing all the peeps on the couch and the announcer(maybe) are oot speedrunners??
Yes, from left to right there's Dotzo, me, JethroTV and Monkley6 :)
Glitches vs exploits are interesting. For instance, Mario 64. Backwards long jumping is a glitch, whereas sideflipping and wallkicking up to the star on the platform in whomps fortress (you’re intended to use the canon) that’s just abusing the wallkick mechanics that are intended.
FEASEL you did it... But this year I missed PresJPolk and Blueglass YSG but also a Awesome AGDQ
How do you dampe so fast? I can’t do it fast enough for the heart piece
this game only took me 16 years to finish xD I got stuck in that big friggin whale and after I while I just dumped the game, after watching this speed run and finding out how easy it actually was I fished my old n64 out of the bottom of my closet- amazing that it still works perfectly fine, and beat the game :D, funny enough it wasn't until they got to the whale u remembered I still had the old console and the game, I was just watching originally cuz I never spared myself enough time to see the game through
why the speedrun is any% and have 3 hours?
It's a Glitchless run. So he can't do all the tricks that make it so short.
Tbh the owl skip seems like a clear glitch to me. Hear me out .. you preform frame perfect moves to clip into stuff which is glitch , so shouldndoing frame perfect tricks to skip an intended mechanic be the same ?
there is already game audio before the game even started... was this also on the livestream or is this a TH-cam sync issue?
as of right now there seems to be a 4 minute sound lag....they will probably fix it sometime
This is still an awesome run, and clearly requires a ton of skill, but it honestly feels like most of the tricks they use are really glitches.
pastebin.com/30et4ckr
Danny B is the best.
They need to have that Pepsiman Hype out at the start be added to the Pepsiman run. Which may be one of the best runs of the event.
Run start: 8:10
About glitchless: pastebin.com/30et4ckr
I dont really like how they decided what was and wasnt glitchless I mean I feel like they set anything that was a minor glitch as not a glitch I understand some of them but some of them i feel are really glitches
"Glitchless lol"
Everyone always admires the music in OOT but I will never get over how amazing the the lighting is as time passes. It's hard to believe this is nearly a 20 year old game.
Agreed!! Glad I'm not the only one who notices that every time I play this game
well one guy on this run did note how it was cool that they were able to do the dynamic lighting from navi 1:16:32
The lighting on Ganondorf as he turns into Ganon is my favorite
1:18:40
The Legend of Pepsiman hack needs to be a thing.
The run begins at 8:08 for those interested in skipping straight to the point ...
7:05 video starts
8:07 countdown
11:00 cutscene ends
Anybody knows if this run is uploaded with the audio synced?
COMPLETELY INTENDED
Shoutouts to the donation poem @1:37:50
Can't wait for there to be a new category in OoT, TCC (Twitch Chat Compliant) Glitchless any% in which you have to finish the game with only moving normally, no skips at all, and nothing at all. What an exciting 9 hour run that would be, which even a 6 year old could do, and involves no routing or effort at all!
It's funny because RunnerGuy2489 actually raced exactly what you said. They called it "Intended%" and it took about 5 and a half hours.
Daniel Lee It does take routing moron.
Run starts at 11:35 - ZELDA HYPE!
Run starts at 11:37
can someone give me the name of the legend in the couch to the left? ty
I am not used to being 30 minutes into a Zelda run without at least half the game being done already... Kinda forgot there was a whole game there...
What do they mean by "runners choice"When referring to donations?
I know it’s been a year but it means that the runner gets to pick what incentive that money goes fo
Skinny Link Couch Guy never moves at all, ever.
StNewt314 fun fact, that guy holds the world record for OoT any%
Wait a minute.. at the beginning when you defeat the spider (the first boss) and you go to that guy who doesn't let you pass the exit unless you get the stone.. (WITHOUT THE GLITCH) He says that Link killed The Great Deku Tree. Well, since he KNEW about that spider in there and he left it there (thinking that Link didn't kill Great Deku Tree) doesn't that mean that he LET it die? That's TWICE as bad. So, in conclusion, you can't be a "good" person either way. It's a lose-lose situation.
1:27:47 favorite comment
He put his missus on the second row couch. :O
This was my first time attending a GDQ, and to say it was incredible was an understatement!
So do you have to pay to enter or can you just go and enter just like that? I've always wondered.
+SqLISTHESHIT you have to pay for tickets, a hotel, etc.
I've heard some people say it's pretty expensive
+SqLISTHESHIT it was $60 for tickets to the actual event, then you've got to pay for a hotel room unless you live in the location- they ran a GDQ special for $115 and night and we had to fly there to go so, it racks up, but definitely worth it if you're interested.
2:40:04 I saw that shield pulling to the melody of the song :P
Who's the donation reader? She has a nice voice.
Start time is 8:09
love this run
shout out to the guy who synced the audio and video a good four whole minutes apart. keeps the audience guessing, right?
For me it only syncs at 720p, otherwise, like you said, looks a good 4 mins apart. Idk why or if it could help you,but I thought I'd let you know!
thanks :)
Wait that truth spinner is random? I have never ever ever seen it be anything other than 2nd to the right
Yep, the two skulls closest to the torch are never correct, but the back three all have an equal third chance to be correct. So getting first try in this run was pretty lucky for me.
1:07:44 Barry Kramer is the Barry from game grumps
Don't suppose anyone at GDQ wants to fix the pretty bad audio desync problem?
Also fix the title and take glitchless part out.
I wonder how long a 100% run using the same glitchless rules would take.
7 years
The record for Glitchless 100% is 5:48:10, also by Makai :)
Video: www.speedrun.com/run/pydg2p0y
5:48:10 Is a surprisingly good time actually.
***** That's not to long actually.
Was that actually Barry Kramar??
How is wrong-warp possibly not a "glitch" xD
Fuck yeah I love charismatic speedrunners
@38:43 what is the joke he is making, EN is not my native language and i have trouble hearing it.
He mentions that the stick was very instrusive
Am I the only one experiencing unsynced audio/video?
wait you could use epona to jump across the bridge
Do they have a twitch? If so PLEASE link it
Does AGDQ have a twitch
In case you're not trolling:
www.twitch.tv/gamesdonequick
Super Doge they only stream when they are doing events but the twitch channel is the same as the TH-cam channel
Halfway through the video I was like....wait Torje is on the couch???
I guess if you stretch the definition thin enough, anything can technically be an exploit and not a glitch. Probably should have called it a Minor Glitch Run or something to that tune instead.
NoToeLong what was "glitch" used in this run most are exploiting the mechanics of bad programming and old hardware.
Jacob Jenuwine a glitch is bad programming. Look at all the glitches in Sonic 06, would those now not be considered glitches anymore?
Did anyone else notice MORPHA's Core/heart looks alot like MIRACLE MATTER from Kirby 64 The crystal shards
Maybe they reused the asset? That was really common among n64 nintendo first/second party games. Lots of examples with OoT and SM64.
***** I wouldnt put it past em.
Ayy VinnyVinesauce.
Audio just got out of sync
audio out of sync until 15:00
YES
Guy playing looks just like the streamer Destiny in 2018 lol
3:52:03 glorious ending considering isg is my favorite glitch :D
I grew up playing ocarina of time to and I'm only 9
Hey congrats on being a teenager now
@@marafolse8347 Shit, I forgot about this
"Soft tricks any%"
Urn starts at 8:00
What the heck is a “deck-oo?”
hey, listen
hey, close the video
"it's pepsi man" lmao
Why did literally no one else use deku nuts when they played this the first time??
I did. A lot.
What the heck is “cocoa-ree?”
This is the worst audio desync I have ever heard.
weep..weep...weep...weep..weep
Whats going on in the beginning?!?
Pepsiman speed run before. It was awesome!
speedrun is one word pal
That double bomb thing to skip hover boots was totally unintended behavior. I call shenanigans. Pretty much everything else seems reasonable enough.
I dont know I saw quite a few things I have a hard time believing that the developers intended for you to do.
bobfrommi
That's true. There were a few things that seemed a bit glitchy, but the bomb thing was the one I remember having questions about. I don't know, I'd have to watch it again. I don't think the run should be called glitchless, but I don't know what else to call it without it losing its value as a run. It really is just an arbitrary set of rules.
Windowsill the Purple I love all these idiots like you looking for every excuse.
Press 1:07:26 for a funny sound
It's funny how people can watch this guy break the shit out of this game and then defend that he's not using any glitches.
@@Xershade But both of those are glitches. In any case, we can both be happy that the glitchless category has since been split into 2 categories: actually glitchless and glitchless with glitches.
58:30 for MWeep
biggest audio desync in history
the music is completely Not synchron i hate that