I salute Adv Ngcukaitobi, an intellectual at its best, well articulated somebody, humble professional and so forth... It's always a pleasure to listen to him...
She's talking about political sense yet we are made to believe that judges are saints. Judges are human beings and they have personal opinions that influence their judgments.
But generally judges have a better understanding of human psychology, behaviour , national dynamic...to make a wise judgement. Political ideology intertwines with an issue like land redistribution.
@@kambuyiblack7462 Yeah it supposed to be like that but there's a difference between psychology and political sense. Look at the conflicts between Russia and Ukraine; Israel and Palestine. Judges are siding with any political idea as human beings. If you listened to the case that South Africa brought to ICJ, judges couldn't agree on political issues hence I say they have personal opinions on political issues that influences their judgements
Any judgment influenced by personal opinions is illegitimate. Judges a thought to be neutral as much as possible. Problem with judges they ended being infiltrated by politics n loose the ability to be neutral on some matters
A great answer, Judge. It is very sound and portrays the wisdom of a great judge! I am sure you will be successful. Also, thank you to the CJ for facilitating an exciting session.
Waste of time, land is only restored by force. To use Roman Dutch law to restore African land taken by force is ridiculous and just waste our time,sis.
@@seansampson1927 Your comment is silly and does not require a response but i will entertain you. Please read your history as written by your own people on the wars of greed, jealousy, conquest, occupation and colonization. It is incumbent upon you to find out the truth from your own sources and sift common lies. I accept that we were vanquished but to say the land was not taken by force is part of the Europe penchant to obfuscate and lie with a straight face, hoping for fatuousness on part of the hearer. That wont wash with me and many of us natives. Unfortunately for you, Europeans, the land shall be fully restored to us, by iloywane(the most high) and your ilk shall, with your tail between your legs, flee back from whence you came. Some will flee, most will succumb to slavery under our feet and sword. Remember these words for your Roman kingdom is coming down, fast.
I fully agree. As long as we're debate and being professional & yet no action. We must forget about Land. Whenever one talks about taking land back these white folks become red in the face. That tells you they're ready for war. Power can only be taken by force just like Captain Ebrahim Traor did in his nation Burkino Fassi.
One of the best judges that I have ever seen being interviewed. No dodging of questions or giving pseudo-intellectual answers and delivered with humanity instead of an automaton. Great interview.
Gayton are puppet, Mallema was like him when he was under Jacob Zuma and now Gayton do the same that Malema was doing , Cyril pupet ...but Juju we Salute you for trying hard to fight for the poor...
Y not give people enough time to address real issues that affect South Africans...we tired of buying cars.. RDP and bonds...we need real land not these passages
@hlomanindlovu355 what r u going to do with the land when u get it!?😊.Has our government invested education/skill set in our people to effectively use it for good agricultural purpose that will feed our country and the rest of the world?Noma ufuna uku fuya izinkomo noku thengisa ama vegetables?😃
@jayjacobs8486 u can exclude yrself from it...but the rest want thier land bank and rent it out to businesses...u don't hv to know how to till the land...any property developer etc can pay lease/levies to be on that land, proceeds of business can be shared with the land owners etc etc u wicket foo!
@@jayjacobs8486 Wait don't you know you can live free just by owning land and leasing it off? Not everyone will farm or work the land because people like you have zero comprehension of the value and possible uses of land. Nobody is expecting colonized African minds to go work the land in doves 😂 yall have been programmed to be lazy and lack critical thinking about things such as land. Only those with ideas of what they can use land for will apply. Those with land will lease to your beloved mulungu to farm it so you can continue to eat the food you so badly don't want to miss
When the Chief Justice restricted CIC to only 2 questions @4:27, this is the first time seeing CIC boiling inside but then decide no let me let this one pass...one lucky Judge this 🤣🙌🙌🙌
The very same state that is failing to run SABC,SAA,Eskom, Denel,failing to provide basic services. Will it be able to control the land while failing to run smaller properties?
It doesn't matter actually as long as it's returned to family it was taken away from .. people should be grateful we haven't used the measure used to take the land
@@nhloniphoingqwele5433 the video doesn't talked about returning the land to the people, it's about state owning the land. Even if you return it to the people, are you going to take ZZ2 and give it to the people who would not farm it?
absolutely agree, the blacks forget that they colonised southern africa, through murderers deeds against our race, took our land and now call it theirs
True historically many khoisan in the cape were slaughtered by the Dutch and British over land in the western cape,Not all South Africa was khoisan land cause South Africa did not exist
your descendants did not 'work' for it but used genocide and you happen to inherit that product of genocide, why should us black people work for it while your people killed for the land.
Can the Blacks please explain what has happened to ALL the LAND that the government owns and reclaimed... productive farms...by the hundreds.? How many of those farms have been allocated to blacks and how many of those farms are still owned by them and are financially productive? Hardly any....yet all you hear " we want more land"? To do what with it exactly?
That belongs to the state, the government should answer that . Land was taken from our families we know who owns it today. Unless you're saying we should use the same measure to take it back .. I'm not sure if Elon musk will be your spokes person then.
@@LuckyJudaz such a stupid response. you want the country to grow and be productive but you are happy to do nothing, no wonder there are no services when you think this way.
Honestly if planting is in your blood and you can farm then become a farmer... If you malema or A fan of this man kindly note he has no endgame... Also not a real politician🎉
@@hazelpony5011 He is kicking your ass every time you take him to court and you have tried everything to destroy him with your highest intellectual advocate and he defeated them all. I think you sometimes dream without a farm when thinking of malema
The absolute gullibility of the members of the JSC has time and again been proved by Malema single-handedly "deciding" whether a candidate will be recommended for appointment or not. Then the rest become his collective rubberstamp.
@@tellymas4572 There is absolute incontrovertible proof of this. If Malema shows a liking in or sympathy for a candidate he/she gets the nod for appointment; if he shows a disliking in a candidate he/she will be unsuccessful. The other commissioners follow Malema like sheep. I have been watching these interviews for years now and to date there has never been an exception to this.
If the state owns the land the state will need to pay the loans on that land. This is an idiotic comment. The land belongs to those who have the title deeds, irrespective of race.
Like all land everywhere, it's won. Even the previous owners conquered,, killed or displaced to get their spot. It all depends how far you go back in history
If she said it's will determined by courts. Is it's because courts are the one's who took it or they controlling?. According to what I think I knew they take land without judiciary system... She is telling us they're using judiciary to keep their gender
I don't know what they are saying if they see PAC working together with colonial political parties while the land is still on the hands of colonial children. 😢😢
Does this man crown himself as the only capable commissioner on intellectual discourse? I disagree, the fact that he highlight his interest as an epitome of intellectual engagement is the sign of lack of critical acumen. In brief he fails to understand that questions are componential
His majesty Mr Malema we love you as Africans ❤❤❤❤❤
Juju thina we love you nonstop ❤️
My Vote working overtime. ❤
CIC we see the work you're doing much love for you ❤
😂😂😂🤮🤮🤮
What an arrogant boy!?
Viva EFF Viva ✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾
@@jayjacobs8486of course how dare he asks a question like that to his colonizers
How will this questioning by Julius benefit you?
I salute Adv Ngcukaitobi, an intellectual at its best, well articulated somebody, humble professional and so forth...
It's always a pleasure to listen to him...
4:06
His record don't speak of an intellectual.
MUCH LOVE TO MALEMA FROM HAWAII!
JULIUS MALEMA for president of South Africa. This man is a stand up man at the Frontline for his people.
She is running away from the questions about the land issue
No she answered beautifully
You lack understanding
I think you misunderstood her.
I love love love this ❤guy. Malema is quality, period.
She's talking about political sense yet we are made to believe that judges are saints. Judges are human beings and they have personal opinions that influence their judgments.
But generally judges have a better understanding of human psychology, behaviour , national dynamic...to make a wise judgement. Political ideology intertwines with an issue like land redistribution.
@@kambuyiblack7462 Yeah it supposed to be like that but there's a difference between psychology and political sense. Look at the conflicts between Russia and Ukraine; Israel and Palestine. Judges are siding with any political idea as human beings. If you listened to the case that South Africa brought to ICJ, judges couldn't agree on political issues hence I say they have personal opinions on political issues that influences their judgements
@@ZakheleMpungose-lq5qb if you know the constitution, what's difficult in just answering the question. Does it allow?, yes or no, just a clear answer
@@godswillgodswill5973 the Judge's job is to translate the constitution and give recommendations, keyword TRANSLATE
Any judgment influenced by personal opinions is illegitimate. Judges a thought to be neutral as much as possible. Problem with judges they ended being infiltrated by politics n loose the ability to be neutral on some matters
A great answer, Judge. It is very sound and portrays the wisdom of a great judge! I am sure you will be successful. Also, thank you to the CJ for facilitating an exciting session.
No way Gayton can ever ask such a question
He can't even come close 😅😅
He's busy advocating Israeli genocide
Gayton is political illiterate in the highest form
Exactly 🤣 he can't all he knows was mabahambe hence he did changed the tune now😅 opportunist
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Waste of time, land is only restored by force. To use Roman Dutch law to restore African land taken by force is ridiculous and just waste our time,sis.
Was never "taken by force" - that's why it's a contentious issue.
@@seansampson1927 Your comment is silly and does not require a response but i will entertain you. Please read your history as written by your own people on the wars of greed, jealousy, conquest, occupation and colonization. It is incumbent upon you to find out the truth from your own sources and sift common lies.
I accept that we were vanquished but to say the land was not taken by force is part of the Europe penchant to obfuscate and lie with a straight face, hoping for fatuousness on part of the hearer. That wont wash with me and many of us natives.
Unfortunately for you, Europeans, the land shall be fully restored to us, by iloywane(the most high) and your ilk shall, with your tail between your legs, flee back from whence you came. Some will flee, most will succumb to slavery under our feet and sword. Remember these words for your Roman kingdom is coming down, fast.
I fully agree. As long as we're debate and being professional & yet no action. We must forget about Land. Whenever one talks about taking land back these white folks become red in the face. That tells you they're ready for war. Power can only be taken by force just like Captain Ebrahim Traor did in his nation Burkino Fassi.
show me your law degree and will debate on this
Whaaat ??? Younot afraid of war ??
Judge Cowen ( well spoken ) 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Love her🎉
One of the best judges that I have ever seen being interviewed. No dodging of questions or giving pseudo-intellectual answers and delivered with humanity instead of an automaton. Great interview.
Our CIC❤
As long as we still have EFF , Land Expropriation Without Compensation is going no where until it is resolved 😮
✊♥️🖤
Won't have Eff for to much longer.
We owe you NOTHING!!!!
You are dreaming EFF is going no where @@markobekker6006
@@gideondevilliers7378 Apartheid Apologist.
❤❤❤❤ long live cic
Judge Cowen and commisioner Ncuka........, I will listen to your conversations the whole day very meaningful
Haalala haalala Mr Malema yes we must re visit the constitution, Judge MAYA we are washing you Ma'am
There is only 1 owner of land, khoisan people
🎉
WeExactly.We are a democratic country not a communist country.We have to be very careful and not let happen
What happened in other countries
Judge Cowan. You are simply the best. Our country need your type of leadership. Clear and Concise.
She won't go anywhere ...black racism will stop her ...those top blacks don't like sharing there its my right to feed .
I like her. simple,authentic,honest, intelligent.
Julius Malema my President ❤
Burkina Faso, Niger, Mali, Rwanda, Julius Malema, Bobby Wine and the GenZ of 🇰🇪 will change the dynamics of Afrika
Gayton are puppet, Mallema was like him when he was under Jacob Zuma and now Gayton do the same that Malema was doing , Cyril pupet ...but Juju we Salute you for trying hard to fight for the poor...
U know malema is the best i love his intel
🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂
The best ai ja ja🤣🤣🤣
Malema is there for African
Racist yes.
Racist yes.
Julius is one of the best
My vote🔥🔥🔥🙌🏼
All lands here in Africa is for black people it doesn't matter what we will do about it but the land us and must be in control of us as owners
and what about the brown africans ? the khoisan? no one wants to libertate them ?
Okay my president 😂😂❤❤
😌😌when my vote works overtime, CIC MY PRESIDENT.
Y not give people enough time to address real issues that affect South Africans...we tired of buying cars.. RDP and bonds...we need real land not these passages
@hlomanindlovu355 what r u going to do with the land when u get it!?😊.Has our government invested education/skill set in our people to effectively use it for good agricultural purpose that will feed our country and the rest of the world?Noma ufuna uku fuya izinkomo noku thengisa ama vegetables?😃
@jayjacobs8486 u can exclude yrself from it...but the rest want thier land bank and rent it out to businesses...u don't hv to know how to till the land...any property developer etc can pay lease/levies to be on that land, proceeds of business can be shared with the land owners etc etc u wicket foo!
@@lovedlover2667 is that all?😊
@@jayjacobs8486no, just a good start.
@@jayjacobs8486 Wait don't you know you can live free just by owning land and leasing it off? Not everyone will farm or work the land because people like you have zero comprehension of the value and possible uses of land. Nobody is expecting colonized African minds to go work the land in doves 😂 yall have been programmed to be lazy and lack critical thinking about things such as land. Only those with ideas of what they can use land for will apply. Those with land will lease to your beloved mulungu to farm it so you can continue to eat the food you so badly don't want to miss
I like her!!!
i think this judge is right ❤❤
🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉CIC my leader
You know the land doesn't belong to you. Just give it back to the people you took it from.
When the Chief Justice restricted CIC to only 2 questions @4:27, this is the first time seeing CIC boiling inside but then decide no let me let this one pass...one lucky Judge this 🤣🙌🙌🙌
😂😂😂 you can't say one lucky judge as if she missed a missile 💥
He is reaping what he sowed. He sowed I-am-an-overly-concerned-about-upholding-feminism seed.
@@brianmazorodze4860 what a naughty boy.Who does he think he is?
A son of the soil, whose fighting your whiteness, in our contintent, which u think that your whiteness gives u to control the world. Factory faults.
@@LuckyJudaz 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Commissioner Malema 😂😂😂😂😂
Judge Cowen you just gave me some hope. Keep shining damn🎉🎉
Our land...our forefathers Graves!!
Shes the best so far!
I fully agree
I love this Judge,
I like this judge!
Cic...where's the vbs loot
Please give this lady chance
Another 30 years?
Put him in jail.
Why u say put him in jail x
Nonsense it must start with ur forefathers that stole our parents land Wena racist 😮
For what?
For which crime.?
Shame on you!
The very same state that is failing to run SABC,SAA,Eskom, Denel,failing to provide basic services. Will it be able to control the land while failing to run smaller properties?
It doesn't matter actually as long as it's returned to family it was taken away from .. people should be grateful we haven't used the measure used to take the land
@@nhloniphoingqwele5433 the video doesn't talked about returning the land to the people, it's about state owning the land.
Even if you return it to the people, are you going to take ZZ2 and give it to the people who would not farm it?
Akunandaba as long we know our land is in our hands
Akunandaba as long we know our land is in our hands
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
This judge is pissing me off with time and number of questions
This is a judge proper you can easily tell that her mind is fluid because she's talking about matters that she deals with first hand.
People must understand now as to why they prevented Judge Hlophe to be a part of JSC
Bekuzoshuba 🤞🤞🤞!!!!!
because he is a disgraced judge
She was prepared
Ai juju mare😂😂😂😂😂my inspiration
Far more coherent answers than the judge interviewed yesterday.
I love malema ka pelo le moya🥰😍🥰❤️
Judges they still don't have answers for it and the question honestly how long for them to discuss about the issues of the land question
There is the law around land..
And it has to follow the what the law says about it..
Whose law, are you aware South Africa use the Roman Dutch law?. On that note, I rest my case
I love this judge
So nice to have clever judges not mumparas
Great gudge this one, only if you could choose the judge to hear ur case, coz the other guys, haykhona
Viva Julius Malema 😂😂😂😂 good 👍 excellent 👌👌.....these judges somewhere somehow they are fooling the th citizens
Take your land back Africa and make them lease it for a very hefty fee‼️‼️
Khoisan also want their land back that's what South African needs to know.
absolutely agree, the blacks forget that they colonised southern africa, through murderers deeds against our race, took our land and now call it theirs
They are the only people that should be getting their land back
True historically many khoisan in the cape were slaughtered by the Dutch and British over land in the western cape,Not all South Africa was khoisan land cause South Africa did not exist
@@tshegofatsomotsatsi6180😂😂😂😂 the zulus and other tribes also killed koi and san... Domkop😂😂😂
Could the real khoisan please stand up, please stand up!
Judge Cowen the best
Excellent and precise questions Juju.
Thanks there's Juju they will feel the pinch
@@ntombimkhize8929 an arrogant boy who doesn't know when to behave
@@jayjacobs8486True&the Disrespecful one
But the common law is intelligent itself... Remember one thing Fellow former CIC, Land disposetion and cattle👌 disposetion...
You can't eat the land you must work it first
We intend to, as soon as it is wrested back. We don't want to work it for your benefit.
@@thepantheoncon4146eish, wena dom 😅
@@thepantheoncon4146😂😂😂😂😂
your descendants did not 'work' for it but used genocide and you happen to inherit that product of genocide, why should us black people work for it while your people killed for the land.
We already work it in your farms. We want to work it for ourselves.
Can the Blacks please explain what has happened to ALL the LAND that the government owns and reclaimed... productive farms...by the hundreds.? How many of those farms have been allocated to blacks and how many of those farms are still owned by them and are financially productive? Hardly any....yet all you hear " we want more land"? To do what with it exactly?
Even if we don't do anything productive there as long as we have our land back as black nation it's still fine than it to be in racist man hands
That belongs to the state, the government should answer that . Land was taken from our families we know who owns it today. Unless you're saying we should use the same measure to take it back .. I'm not sure if Elon musk will be your spokes person then.
@@LuckyJudaz such a stupid response. you want the country to grow and be productive but you are happy to do nothing, no wonder there are no services when you think this way.
What a damn stupid response eish nou weet ek nie meer nie😮@@LuckyJudaz
@@LuckyJudazTHE FARMERS AT LEAST PUT FOOD ON YOUR TABLES ....MORE THAN YOU CAN SAY FROM ALL THOSE SO CALLED FARMERS THAT GOT FARMS FOR FREE!! N
Our land is our prosperity
She is protecting the abaphathi bakhe
Dankie my president ❤
State can at times be a useful in redistribution ❤❤❤
We know from which tribes the land was taken. Too much data on that. Just restore the land to those tribe and their kin, finish
Love CIC❤
Honestly if planting is in your blood and you can farm then become a farmer... If you malema or
A fan of this man kindly note he has no endgame... Also not a real politician🎉
Become a farmer on what land?
YOU ALSO HAVE TO BUY IT LIKE WE ALL HAVE TO. I ALSO WOULD LOVE A PIECE OF LAND ......😮😮
@@marimuller9530 go get it in the Netherlands then, hop-hop!!
@@thepantheoncon4146 DO YOU THINK I CAN GET IT FOR FREE??? I DON'T STEAL !!!
@@hazelpony5011 He is kicking your ass every time you take him to court and you have tried everything to destroy him with your highest intellectual advocate and he defeated them all. I think you sometimes dream without a farm when thinking of malema
My CIC✊✊
I don't understand our commissioner...😮😮 is she soft vele or is this candidate or it's me
The absolute gullibility of the members of the JSC has time and again been proved by Malema single-handedly "deciding" whether a candidate will be recommended for appointment or not. Then the rest become his collective rubberstamp.
Is there any proof to this? How do you know this
@@tellymas4572 There is absolute incontrovertible proof of this. If Malema shows a liking in or sympathy for a candidate he/she gets the nod for appointment; if he shows a disliking in a candidate he/she will be unsuccessful. The other commissioners follow Malema like sheep. I have been watching these interviews for years now and to date there has never been an exception to this.
Must these judges be submitted to being interrogated by this d00s??
If the state owns the land the state will need to pay the loans on that land. This is an idiotic comment.
The land belongs to those who have the title deeds, irrespective of race.
Says a European
@@stevekgaogelo4108 No, says a South African
With European decent 😂@@nevillepurdon7678
ClC Malema 👊❤
Why were you absent yesterday Cmsr Malema?
Because the racist judges are being interviewed today
Monday babalas
@@Dalf80s 🤣🤣🤣🤣
😂😂😂 when someone is drinking water that's where you see things a hard
I love Malema 😊
Malema is the best no matter what
Which side are you representing commissioner
Malem biggest racist in SA
From Zimbabwe
Allow the questions and allow the answers. What is the point of all this if they can't ask and answer questions?
The CJ is chewing gum
Now, don't you dare start on that. Do you want her to start with her vaping here? Isn't chewing a bubble gum better? 🇿🇦🤣
Do Black candidates get asked the same question or is it reserved for White only?
How many black candidates have you seen?
@@amandanxumalo2007 if there aren't many that is on them, nobody holding Black people back.
Your question is questionable
They do actually. You just chose to watch the yt interviews
It goes both ways… it is just unfortunate that white minority are the ones who benefited from the wrong policies from the past
In the absence of Hlope, Julias Malema did not disappoint.
To judge Cowen, u're a 🌟 . Wish you good luck
Did the constitution GIFT settlers the LAND
It looks like it😢
Like all land everywhere, it's won.
Even the previous owners conquered,, killed or displaced to get their spot.
It all depends how far you go back in history
"I don't know," and "high level" is the theme of her responses....
Juju thina we love you nonstop, Judge Mlambo asked 4 questions , how
WE MUST TAKE OVER FOR EFF. EFF IS THE KING OF AFRICA THIS GUY IS CLEVER AND WAOOO
Nice interaction 😊
If she said it's will determined by courts. Is it's because courts are the one's who took it or they controlling?. According to what I think I knew they take land without judiciary system...
She is telling us they're using judiciary to keep their gender
The colonized countries must pay compensation to children to buy land where they like and restart not at Poor's cost
Power juju Power
😢its sad that people dosen't know JEFF JAFTA MASEMOLA when you are listening the issues concerning land
I don't know what they are saying if they see PAC working together with colonial political parties while the land is still on the hands of colonial children. 😢😢
Does this man crown himself as the only capable commissioner on intellectual discourse? I disagree, the fact that he highlight his interest as an epitome of intellectual engagement is the sign of lack of critical acumen. In brief he fails to understand that questions are componential
Red flag is the future ❤❤
Chief Justice Maya will limit the ability of JSC to interrogate and check the suitability of these candidates of her concern in time.
She is a stooge
Julius is no commissioner.