I love how everyone complained about the dialogue being so cringe in Andromeda that when Bioware made Veilguard they were like "let's do it again but worse!"
God damn it, I just realize that outrider has the exact same intro - alien world, unknown, anomaly and weather towels - and your FATHER figure dies at the start.
To this day, I will never understand how that "My face is tired" line made it past so many people. A team of writers really sat at a table and were like "Yup that's definitely a sentence that normal human beings say" Then the supervisor saw it and was like "Yep that's some A+ dialogue right there" Then the director saw it and was like "Brilliant! Put it in the game!" Then the voice actor recorded the line like a lobotomized robot and everyone was like "Amazing! One take!" 😂
Here's the easy answer, they were pressed for time, and had to host a particular feminist who gave them routine lectures on how to remove "misogyny" from video games which said feminist and the studio then also had to make videos to boast about thus taking up several hours of the day which equalled the equivalent of days worth or work being wasted just so she could stick it to "racist white men" at their game and company's expense. they didn't have the time or energy to do even basic quality control. Also remember the impact of EA on all games at the time was "we'll fix it after release" and "we need that ESG money we're broke and everyone under the sun is suing us, virtue signal because your life depends on it because I will kill you if I lose this job."
Andromeda was undercooked. After the patches, it was tolerable, but still mid and predictable. But there were absolute gems in there at times. But it really needed another year plus the patches.
The combat to its credit is actually fantastic, its just a shame literally EVERYTHING ELSE feels like a really shitty imitation of a Mass Effect game. Mass Effect by this point already does kind of feel like a slightly dated mid 2000s grand sci fi, but Andromeda felt like a *parody* of ME rather than a proper entry into the universe.
But sadly.. they abandoned it. Leaving critical a few game breaking bugs as well. Pretty ironic that they threw the towel of this.. which had potential.. where they literally shat Anthem and abandoned it at impressive speed.
Idk, I feel like I'm the only person unbothered by the female krogan you meet towards the beginning. If she found out early on that she's not one of those highly-valued fertile females, I can totally imagine her deciding to go her own way, maybe learn some new skills, and even hop to another galaxy. Not like she's doing much for her species back home, right? She doesn't have to worry about leaving behind a family, if she can't have children (like MOST females!).
It's pretty common to try and put in unexpected characters. They did this with Legion, Javik and EDI's body in the earlier games. I never knew the female krogan was bothersome to anyone.
I believe that their claim that no DLC was ever planned for this game was just them not wanting to bother, I hate that we never got to know what happened to Turian/Quarian ship.
Andromeda is a decent game now with all the fixes it had gotten, I played through it a short time ago and had enough fun. The problem for it is that they just abandoned it. The main story is a decent set up, but this could have been easily fixed with updates or DLC taking us to the rest of Andromeda, they had a whole fucking galaxy, literally endless possabilities and not being tied down by the trilogy's story, the only thing you carry over is Shepard's gender and that's just an option you select when starting a new game. Now unless they do an ANdromeda 2 it'll just be an akward game where nothing really got resolved much. Still better then Veilguard.
Damm I was believed that you were gonna be like oh its not all bad Then you tore into every aspect of the game and made sure to do amazing sarcastic views we all had when it came out
It was too hard to be serious playing this game. Replaying it had me struggling to find much good in it. It's an okay game but damn, it really doesn't have the magic.
I’ve played through it a few times and it’s not that bad and also super super cheap now and worth the asking price. Also I’ll be brutally honest does a few things better than Starfield 😨 🙈 🤣
But we have the context of starfield for that comparison. At the time any predating game did the exploration better if in a smaller area. And of course the release asking price was well the release asking price. The game is now worth the product quality+time spent-time wasted virtue signalling with some obscure TH-cam feminist most people have no clue about when I name her, yet who gets invited to everything and seems to just stumble into money like her last name is Clinton.
Completely getting rid of paragon and renegade was a mistake. I wish there were more new races and the enemies were slightly compelling. Other than that, the game is a lot of fun, especially now that it’s not a buggy mess.
Honestly never really gave it much thought the Cora Harper concept art looks WAY better, and even more immersive. With her hair all tied back like that, it gives her face a similar apperance to Asari, and about 78.3% of her whole character is "I trained with Asari" so it kinda works real well. The lines around her head, cheeks and neck are all very smooth and contoured just like the Asari "head fins"? Never Forget What They Took From You.
The biggest crime in ME-Andromeda is that one side quest on the Krogan planet that indicates that during the deep space travel the people on the Nexus might have gone through some kind of neurological decay and that is why so many highly trained and specialized personnel act like kids and even revolted, which could explain so much about what's happening. It's as if at the very start of the writing process someone wrote that, put it in there and forgot to tell the other writers about it.
The game was decent, despite some frustrating bugs and glitches, which most games suffer from, until patches are added. The amount of patches and fixes is what matters the most, some games do a great job with their patches and fixes, while other games are totallt abandoned. My score for Mass Effect: Andromeda is a 7.5, or 8 at tops.
"Most games suffer from..." does not make a game better. For some games, patches makes them OK. For some, the game still suck (CP2077). For some, it makes it great (or one of the best games ever (Witcher 3)). But for patches to make up for initial faults, the core game in itself needs to be good. ME:A is not such a game. Even after patches it is mediocre at best.
@@Dexyu You are entitaled to your opinion. But CP2077 is nowhere near W3 in any way. W3 had some bugs at launch. I had none with CP2077 except quest not starting or ending and other bits and bobs (game breaking in their own way), but it seems everyone else had. (CP2077 still has t-posing and textures not loading) W3 was a complete game. CP2077 is still missing parts. W3 had a decent skill system. CP2077 is still struggling. W3 had a solid expansion. CP2077 got Phantom Liberty that is a cinematic trailer. And that are some of the collective and objective truths. Then there are my opinion which is that CP2077 is brilliant in some parts, but mostly shite.
I would say it was a meh game over all. Meh is fine but fine is not okay for a sequel of such an amazing trilogy imo. That's why people are 'harder' on it. It's fine but it has a lot of problems it shouldn't have had because the studio has already learned what is successful.
@@Dantics Pardon me for the late reply, but any game that has Mass Effect or Dragon Age in the title has to be better than okay or even pretty good. I think Andromeda is an okay game once you overlook the more cringy parts, and could have been worthy of the ME title with another six months to a year to cook and a better/more consistent team working it. It's a coulda...woulda...shoulda game
Midway through playing this for the first time after my trilogy replay and my biggest gripe is the main character. I feel like im playing the manager of a walmart, I despise Ryder, there's plenty of other problems too, but having a good player character should be a priority in a RPG.
I felt like the entire cast of Andromeda was based on a conversation between a couple of NPCs in the main trilogy that Shepard overhears while roaming around. No one takes their situation seriously. Consequences aren't really a thing. It's extremely linear and there's no real tension or drama. After the crap Liam and Peebee pull in their loyalty missions, not giving us the option of booting them off the ship AT MINIMUM was a serious letdown. Shep would have shot Peebee for what she did.
My personal reasons I didn't like it: - although some of the ideas of the skills were great, the balance was in favor of the shooty - boomy style of gameplay making it more of a shooter and less of an action RPG like the originals - regurgitated bosses and boss battles - regurgitated mechanics that mimicked UbiSoft games (ugh) - removed the satisfying "BA-DOOM" biotic explosion - unmemorable soundtrack - largely unmemorable characters - boring plot Ryder Sr. is voiced by Clancy Brown which is a badass VA and actor in general.
I so would have preferred to play as Rider Sr. Imagine having the same plot but this time you have a ticking clock to save your kids. Or to still have at least one of them on your team and the *chance* to actually lose them if you make a wrong decision at some point. Higher stakes and tension but nah; let's go with the 20- something wise@$$ that nobody respects instead. Edit* I also could not STAND that they took my power wheel. The action never pauses and you can't control your team mates, making any biotic or tech combo detonations damn near impossible. It also really limits what you can do during battles. And all the planets had THE SAME WILDLIFE. I got that it was a system that was heavily terraformed and seeded with life but c'mon! And then with the "big reveal" of the Kett being changed aliens? Uh, yeah. We already had that with husks etc from the original trilogy. Not a shocker. If anything, it pointed to a kind of Reaper/Collector vibe.
Thank you for jumping on that grenade! I played it twice and both times put it down exactly where you did. Chalk it up to another interstellar lost expedition. Can't wait till "ME4 The Search for Andromeda"
I've played it thru 3 times. Tried it again recently but the removal of the power wheel just annoyed TF out of me, and the lack of control over my team mates powers etc also just ticked me off. Add to that the glibe nature of almost every conversation and it removed all sense of urgency, tension and drama. I'll probably try it again sometime. It's OK as a sci-fi game, it's just so not a Mass Effect game.
Despite all the hate i got this game a few months after release and always enjoyed it. It def will never live up to the first 3. mass effect 2 will always be my fav. But it's a good game.
Yes, a lot of hysterics about. I didn't think it was outstanding or anything, but had the game not been attached to ME it would have got a vastly different reception.
I beat this game on PC recently. It wasn't terrible - I'd rather play it again than Dragon Age Inquisition, for example. I would have preferred if Andromeda followed Dad Ryder when he was doing all his Pathfinder stuff.
While the facial animation movements are disjointed, the postures were very annoying. No one can just stand upright; they are either "sitting on a barstool", have a bad case of sway-back or Ryder having early onset osteoporosis. Also, the strange way they moved while speaking... or didn't move until they finished speaking.
I found the way the Turians and the Salarians were standing very annoying. Like their arms would just hang from their shoulders and they slouch. Was way more natural looking in the original trilogy.
Dude, you take sarcasm to a new level. It's like listening to someone play a musical instrument - very, very well! Thanks for the chuckles, buddy boy!! 😎🤓😜🥸
I enjoyed Andromeda, not as much as the holy trilogy, but it's still better than Dragon Age 2 innit. Gamers that put gameplay above the story should love Andromeda, you can space boost whilst cloaked Vanguard Surprise. I'll always customize Sara even when I'm playing default Scott with default Alec switch on
Where is the footage from at 1:13?? I keep seeing this footage...is this from a video, or a promotion? The first time I spotted it I thought "Wow, if ME5 looks like THAT I am all there!"
What I don't understand is how they found this many people who thought the humor was, well humorous. I have said from the start that the writing was terrible, but there are plenty of games with worse dialogue. The problem with ME: Andromeda is that the jokes draw so much attention to the writing which was obviously not the game's strong point. It was like they decided that since combat was probably the weakest part of the ME trilogy, well they should obviously change everything? And they had the same person writing jokes for each character, thereby giving them all the same kinda off sense of humor. It's like when you say something you think is witty just to realize it sounded better in your head. Except in a video game you could have edited it out once you realize that it isn't funny, but they didn't. Next was Fem Ryder. I get it, Jayde Rossi is too attractive and women don't look like that in real life. The contradiction being that Jayde Rossi is a real person and everyone isn't an out of shape 5'4" 180lbs woman from the US, while the ones with proportions like Fem Ryder are far less common than women with beautiful faces. So why do games, and this almost seems to have started with Andromeda, keep making women's faces _eh_ compared to their models'? They got Male Ryder and Liam almost perfect, so the initial statement about the facial tech not working well seemed dubious from the get-go. As for Cora, I was fine with her hair, though I do like the concept art a bit better. Lol, now her proportions seemed out of whack and I am OK with that. Moving on to the Asari. Wow did they f that up. From the bodies to their poor, poor faces...how could they possibly let that slide? Also, there was a lot of chatter about not bothering with proper lore, well the Asari portrayal nails that to a "T". I mean c'mon, Peebee has eyebrows! I don't even mind her face as a whole, as I guess she is _cute_ in a bi-sexual high school crush kind of way, but you at least have to know that Asari don't have eyebrows. Bloody heck. Only having two facial models for the Asari in the entire game does not help either. Peebee's and everyone else's. Vetra was by far my favorite NPC. She definitely had the best overall writing. She didn't have the repeated annoying _quirks_ of Cora, Liam, Peebee or Jarl which goes a long way when those quirks are annoying as heck. _"But I was an Asari commando...", "Back in my days with an elite Asari Commando squad...", "It was hard being the only human on a team of special tactics Asari Commandos..."_ Yes Cora, we get it, you like doing pushups with your shirt off and joking about everything. Oh wait, that may have actually gone a long way in making her repeated dialogue more bearable... All that said, once I finally got passed Eos (which took me about 35 real life hours over 3 separate attempts at starting the game) I did end up enjoying the game. The graphics were pretty exceptional save female faces and the gameplay was above average. I was not a huge fan of the vaults, but that mostly had to do with not being able to save along with the scanning leading up to them. I've never heard it called _"Scandromeda,"_ but wow does that fit perfectly and was my least favorite part of the game, to the point where I ended up using a trainer to find materials as looking for them manually slowed the game to a crawl. I'd rather launch probes than use the ME:A approach. It wasn't jsut resources either. From the initial sabotage quest to the murder mystery on the planet, I just found it obtrusive to my enjoyment of the game. Once the game found it's footing and scanning was almost exclusively relegated to finding the glyphs to do the puzzles to get into the vaults it didn't bother me as much. Hopefully they learned what players find most important in these games, with games like Cyberpunk and Baldur's Gate showing that writing really is the most important thing in RPG's, whether they are action based or thoughtful strategy doesn't matter. Writing should be the first priority in the genre. That means not letting companies like _"Sweet Baby Inc"_ within 1000 miles of your drafts. I'm not bothered in the least by "woke" characters, and it makes sense to have as many different personalities as you can, including a harpy uber feminist along with an old school "super" misogynist. What doesn't work is when everyone is straight out of a _"Kickass"_ fanfic written by an 8th grader, which is kinda how the dialogue came off. You have to be some kind of talented to pull off the same type of humor with the entire cast, and even then, it's better when you change it up. _shrug_ Idk what to expect from DA: Dreadwolf or ME 5. I have far more _hope_ for ME 5 than I do Dreadwolf, as Dreadwolf has gone through heck in for the last 7 years, had a lot of the same writers Andromeda had, with what I have to assume was a ton of the dialogue written in a very one-sides social/media climate. ME 5 will be made in an environment where at least gaming companies know what sells and what doesn't. You can't get away with a Spider-Man 2 political _lean_ without a character like Spider-Man being the main selling point of the game. It's weird, ME: Andromeda would certainly not be considered a _woke_ game by today's standards, but at release it absolutely was (considered a bit too far on the "left" for many long term fans). I didn't see it all that much in the writing and it didn't really bother me. If the next game comes out further left without much, much better writing it is going to be a disaster that could stop ME 5 from ever seeing a release. Just like a game can't go full MAGA and expect to appeal to a wide audience, it can't go full _"Cornpop"_ and expect to sell 15M+ copies either.
Look the writing was bad and it was highlighted far too often. I came up with scandromida this time around simply because I got tired of having to do it for everything that wasn't 'combat' or 'talking'. I wrote in a part about how the female Ryder model was changed and the males wasn't but I had to cut about 20 mins of content (since vid was over an hour). I feel like I get made out to be a conspiracy theorist if I dare suggest there are deliberate attempts to do things like this.
This right here is nitpicking be damned but i respect your opinion. Writing (in my opinion) was very solid for a new game that carried the name of a legendary series. Cora's dialogue was just fine and she has a great ass so she can say whatever she wants. The ride alongs conversations with different characters was very funny at times and pretty good. Actually Peebee called Cora out for pretending to be a Matriarch and she took offense to that. I saw Peebee's titties (and femsheps tits too) and romanced Liara through all three games of the ME series recently. I didnt notice or care about eyebrows in the slightest. You said you didnt even play the murder mystery on Kadara (which was ten minutes long at most). That tells me that you likely skipped through the dialogue to finish the game which makes your opinion ultimately invalid. Also why is everyone using the term "woke" all the time. Yall say woke more than the people pushing woke agendas. Its annoying. I get that the engineer was queer and the ship scientist was a lesbian but who gives a shit? The characters and the conversations you can have with them (a gay guy realizing that he has to contribute to repopulation and a religious scientist whose faith is challenged after Meridian 1 is excellent work) As long as they didnt paint the ship rainbow colored or have a gun that shoots skittles that whispered "taste the rainbow". Or give you the option of making Ryder transgender equipped with a shirt that said "my other penis is a vagina" or vice versa depending on what gender you chose, i highly disagree and consider it to be a cop out becaus you ran out of valid criticisms. Bro ive played as many video games as a introverted asian kid. Also played every Mass Effect multiple times besides three just yet. Andromeda deserved the title of being a mass effect game and did a lot of things a hell of a lot better than its predecessors. Deserves criticism without a doubt (especially since it was a hot mess at launch) but nowhere near to extent that it has gotten and wont even get a chance to improve. This game got dragged so hard that they didnt even unveil the new DLC for it (Tali is babe so i was really interested in seeing the quarian ark) and most of the DLC for the story is now free. There are still people playing the multiplayer which is a testament to a game that has been out for half a decade. I digress.
@@wolfy6631 a lot was said on this subject. BOTTOM LINE: If you played through Andromeda with an open mind rather than having your mind made up from all the negative reviews, you would be surprised. I had fun playing this game (in my opinion). The combat is without a doubt the best out of all three games combined. The writing was NOT terrible and the characters damn sure arent bland. That is pure horseshit. Most judged this game vs ALL three original games which is asinine. This was a rough draft of what couldve been a new Mass Effect series. The negative reviews killed the budding plant...but to be honest, they did that themselves planting a bad seed by not making sure the game didnt have serious bugs during its launch.
Let's not forget that this entire thing started before ME3 so I would like to know where did they get all this tech to build citadel 2.0 when citadel 1.0 was made by reapers. Andromeda doesn't even have mass relays...
I actually really enjoyed Andromeda when it was released, considering the events of Ryder are taking place at the same time as Sheppard's campaign against the reapers, im wondering if the new ME, will bring Andromeda into consideration or abandon it totally. Love this video man!
'Technically' it's 600 years after the events, but it doesn't really matter all that much if the next game is set 1000 years after, right? I feel that's what they should do.
From what's been gleaned from the teasers so far, the next game should take place not long after Andromeda, and apparently there will be travel between the two galaxies. Mike Gamble has already said Andromeda will play a role in the game. The real question is, how good is the new writing team?
Andromeda as a game by itself was good and fun, but as a mass effect game.. not so much. I just dont think any enemy can beat the Reapers and therefore it will always feel a little lackluster. Plus the fact that all the asari looked the same was unforgivable
You know what, for all the GLARING issues with the game, the multiplayer for Mass Effect Andromeda was actually very enjoyable, well balanced, and was clearly the majority of their effort.
I love this game. The only things that ever really get to me is how glitchy using cover can be (especially annoying in hard mode) and the facial expressions of the characters.
Oh yes, it really is that bad. Andromeda would have been a mid-game (at best) if they just took the Mass Effect name off of it, but with it having ME attached and being a game in the series, it fails.
Playing through it again now. Andromeda is not as nearly as bad as people made it out to be at release (aside from the stiff facial animations). But it is just *fine*, which after the masterpiece the original trilogy was feels like a bit of a punch in the gut. That said, the game is still enjoyable, and has it's moments. When I first finished the game I still felt like I had fun it so I got what I wanted out of the experience. I'm not the kind of person who expects EVERY game to be a masterpiece (I think that's an unrealistic expectation many gamers have), but I at least hope the next Mass Effect is a bit more consistent in it's narrative delivery and gameplay polish (save the combat, I really liked the combat in this entry) than Andromeda was.
The next Mass Effect has another team that will work on it. Also some very known names. Plus they are using Unreal Engine 5. It is a beast of an engine, I use it too for cinematics. The only thing that can flop is plot. Bugs that occur later can be patched💁🏻♂️
Thats crazy because i was choosing between Starfield and Andromeda. Thank god i picked the right one (will play Starfield in time but i know how Bethesda games gets down).
I tried playing this game. Less than 2 hours in, i hit a bug where there was literaly no audio. I promptly gave up on the game and shelved it. That says it all.
I mean, the one thing I was very surprised to see a lack of sarcasm about was the fact that Peebee jumping you like that is OBVIOUSLY a sexual thing. Like, the lack of subtlety is wild. I've never had a game beat me over the head with "HEY, THIS IS A LOVE INTEREST" that hard before.
Bro, this was the best Mass Effect video I've ever watched on TH-cam. Well, ok. It's the only Mass Effect video I've ever watched on TH-cam. But I still subscribed!
So, the conclusion is YES, the Andromeda is as bad as people say it is. Too shay though, I really loved the Trilogy, hated the endings but the game itself was one extraordinary ride. You really managed to get Wrex killed? HOW?? Actually nevermind, I don't want to know... How dare you...
@@Dantics I was kidding. My first blind run was the most successful in all 3 games. In my 2nd run I failed to get Jack's loyalty even after completing her mission... Interesting character. Shame about "Andromeda", I'm still tempted to try it though... maybe...
Noticing that ME:A's opening chapter is almost the same as ME1's. ME1 : Eden Prime, introduces antagonist Saren, main object to chase Saren. Establish first two squad mates. Citadel, introduces incompetent leadership, run around doing errands for lazy security. Therum, acquire Asari squad mate Liara, who acts like a naive school girl, that can help you understand the old machines. During this time you acquire a 1000+ year old, red Krogan, a disgruntled male security officer Turian, and a gypsy girl. MEA : Habitat 7, introduces antagonist Archon, main object to avoid Archon. Establish first two squad mates. Nexus, introduces incompetent leadership, run around doing errands for lazy security. Eos, acquire Asari squad mate Peebee, who acts like a snarky school girl, that can help you understand the old machines. During this time you acquire a 1000+ year old yellow Krogan, a disgruntled female logistics officer Turian, and a Jamaican.
Pretty common tropes across all games and some media. The errands are to customise you to how the game works, etc. Being ME would you expect anything to be different? Try harder.
I can paint the Mona Lisa. I can't paint Mona Lisa as well as Leonardo Da Vinci, even if you give me exactly the same toolset. You can even dot it for me and I will still paint her face like she's tired.
34:10 not entirely correct. In the first mass effect you never meet Vorcha or Drell (they first appear in mass effect 2), Batarians you meet in the DLC for ME1 (which you cant start until after you leave the Citadel), and well... you SEE Sovereign at the start of ME1, but you dont technically meet it (or even know its a sentient being).
The thing that killed it for me was collecting all these stupid materials to craft some "amazing" armor (looked like shit but had good stats) and then the first building I walk into all these no name dudes have the exact same thing on. Just pulled me right out
I did not not know a companion could be written as poorly as Cora in a video game. Ever. Then we meet peanut butter or whatever and she is worse. I mostly ran Liam and the girl boss improvement over garrus.
The only thing I could say about this game was that after the patches the gameplay wasn't bad. The rest of it? Cora: "I'm an asari commando and don't you forget it." I hope to god ME5 doesn't go back to Andromeda.
Maybe not, but it still isn't good, the characters are shallow, annoying and/or boring...if I look at the first Mass Effect there's only one half way boring character: Kaidan Alenko (and Ashley can be annoying if you don't know her yet)...but in MEA? I can't name one character I was genuinely interested in! They annoyed the crap out of me. The story also stucks, too and that vehicle? Damned, give me the MAKO any day! At least it has a gun and jump-jets!
I just started so im not watching this whole thing but only thing thats bothering me so far is that youre not living from what couldve been the result of what you chose from the trilogy.. lets see what happens tho, but i really like it so far.
36:50 My first thought when I saw that in game was "So, the Ket are just Illithids (Mind Flayers) then?" Only to have an EXCELLENT game that actually uses Real Mind Flayers years later 😁
I keep seeing this video's revisiting games that were panned and saying "are they really that bad" and mostly it just makes me think our standards are lower now because of the utter dogshit being pumped out.
Is it as bad as they said it was back then? Imo no. It’s still better than SOME AAA titles in 2024. Compared to 1-3 it doesn’t feel like mass effect. But I’ve played way worse.
19:25 sounds like how most of my experiences go. You're right that the sarcasm is draining my life support...and doing so with such intensity that my face is tired.
The head movement of Ryder in SAM node talking to the homicidal alien AI in version 1.10 is just bizarre. It's like he is twisting his neck The Exorcist style. Most of the automatic conversation positioning is messed up with the view centered onto some meaningless target instead of the speaker. But the thing I found really annoying was the termination of access to previously visited locations (Habitat 7, Remnant station city and Meridian) after completion of story arcs. As if the content was deleted from the game files. If you do not do exploration while you engage in a running firefight on Meridian you don't get to recover a data core. The developers showed a certain level of contempt for the players. They could have put more content such as secrets in the gratuitously inaccessible previously visited locations.
@@Dantics Having just watched Star Wars with my son, I'm also reminded of Obi-Wan Kenobi's great line: Who's the more foolish; the fool, or the fool who follows him? Damn, I love that character. I hate how the prequels made him a dunce.
Like watching a long form cinema sins video😂 I still have a soft spot for MEA. Still subpar overall, but i just wanted more ME and I guess I fall into the smooth brains who went "ooh DIFFERENT" with some of the 'subverts expectations' stuff, but you aren't wrong 🤷♂️🤷♂️😂
@@Dantics I mean gameplay-wise sure, but the narrative was horrid, it needed more time to cook in the oven. Maybe give your teammates more depth and give the Archon and your twin an actual character.
Bullshit plus the Mass Effect series gave you three abilities to work with...Only three. This one gave you all of them. You had a choice between which special ammo you could use. Maybe barrier (which you get as a passive ability with the biotic tree so that makes 4). Add in the consumables portion and you can have 8 abilities including a goddamn rocket launcher. That definitely trumps ME2 who had to dumb things down because the goated ME1 system was "too much work" 😑 There is more "depth" from all the characters. You can find out more of their personalities as well as who gets along with who since the two characters you take on missions that make you use the nomad for transport will be talking to each other. None of the other ME games did this. The majority of the "cons" coming from most people is putting the term "petty nitpicking" under a microscope and dissecting it for further analysis.
I like the mention of coffee in this one, other ones just had a steaming coffee cup in the menus. Now it's gets a prominent mention. Also I like the freedom between classes as I like biotics a LOT, but I want some soldier based stuff like better armor and guns.
I went in not expecting it to be as good as the Mass Effect trilogy; and, my expectations were met. But, that's okay, because the ME trilogy was astounding and a cult classic - few titles can rival it. And, not trying to compare it, I played it for what it was - and had a good time. Also, the stay frosty quip at the end was a hint on which powers to use there... just sayin'. :)
It was 100% a joke about them being on an ice planet and the fact that 'stay frosty' is a term used to mean 'stay alert'. The enemies them selves are not vulnerable to ice attacks more than usual.
i liked andromeda it had potrntial (which i knew was ruined) i simply never gave a shit about anything ryder says and enjoyed good parts of the game it was the first mass effect game i played so i didn't have anything that i can compare it to
I tried to replay this twice since it released, purely as a test to see if modern AAA games had managed to wear down my standards. I was relieved to find that, even with as many mods as I could cram in, I never got further again than about 4 hours. Excellent video.
My first time playing the game I went with the female Ryder, she came out better than the male, and Suvi was receptive. A computer problem led me to restart and as default male Suvi rejects me. So can't romance lady with accent. Suvi = Judy
I really liked the design of Tempest. I think the loft was a little silly but I like the ship enough to let that slide. If Normandy is an A- (comon, it was a little wonky) and the ME3 SR-2 an A+ (the interior of the original SR-2 was dumb, especially with the cargo deck off limits and the armory where it was, also the concept of S tier can F off, its idiotic and cheap), then Tempest is a solid B+.
Credit to BioWare... they came up with a way to have another game in the franchise without ruining anyone's experience of the trilogy. What happened to the Reapers? What happened to Shepard? ...doesn't matter! This crew is 600 years and an entire galaxy away; whatever choices YOU made in the trilogy, that's YOUR canon! ___ Now, yes, Andromeda launched with issues; but thankfully most of those have been fixed. However, i think the big issue of why Andromeda failed is that everyone was comparing it to the entire Shepard trilogy, and not treating it as a 'part 1' of a new trilogy. When Mass Effect 1 came out, they didn't know if it would be a hit or not, so they made an open and closed story. Saren was defeated and the Reapers were prevented from coming through the relay. Same thing with Back to the Future or the original Star Wars, open and closed first story, but then when it became a hit, part 2 was open ended to lead into 3. But since the Mass Effect trilogy was already a hit, BioWare didn't feel like they needed to make part 1 of the Andromeda story open and closed; the fans should know that there will be more. But when they're comparing this 1 new game to the 3-games worth of story arc and expecting this new game to be all of that in one...well of course it doesn't hold up to the trilogy. Which is why now, instead of getting parts 2 & 3 of the Andromeda trilogy, they're having to find a way to connect the Andromeda crew back to the Milky Way. Which means they ARE going to have to canonize an ending to Mass Effect 3 and ruin 2/3rds of the fans' own canon based on their play style and choices. .....and all because people couldn't accept that Andromeda was part 1 of a new story so that ALL of the fans could have a new, clean slate experience without undermining their choices in the original story.
From the get go, I wondered how in the HELL they crashed into something the size of damn nebula. Also, showing up defenseless aside from small arms was probably unwise. Of all the issues with the game, I think the most damning is the lack of give a damn I had for the squad. I couldn't name a single squad member from memory until I watched this. The main character wasn't much better. I think I vaguely remembered the name being Ryder. The multiplayer was also sort of meh, I only played it a few hours whereas I played the multiplayer in ME3 for hundreds of hours. But I do thank you for this. It gave me lots of great laughs.
What's more damning about the lack of weapons is that it's actually super easy to strap a few onto ships since the tech uses mass effect fields (essentually meaning they don't need to carry heavy ammo). I was the same, I had to really sit and think to remember names and I still can't name you side characters. Where I can name you the order which side characters come up in ME:Trilogy.
I didn't like the new alien dudes at all and was disappointed at the character you play... I was like why did they get rid of Shepard but then did the same thing again. You are basically playing another Shepard.....why didn't they allow you to make your character in like a skyrim fashion? Make a Krogan with his own unique race benefits kinda thing...but no basically a worse Shepard.
Them crashing into something the size of a nebula is not that unbelievable. First off they had been asleep for 600 years, which is plenty of time for something to show up that wasn't there before. Also, 2nd when we look at distant stars we are not looking at the present, we are looking at the past, hundreds, thousands or even millions of years ago. So they didn't even know what it would look like there when they left. I will agree that they were way under armed though.
the game was made with low budget at the time, and no funds to fix, patch make and expansion to really make it the game like mass effect series everyone loves could have been. due to cash issues, the game got dumped after launch due to so many complaints the sales tanked so, they could not drive enough revenue to fix it. Example is cyberpunk 2077 was riddled with issues on launch and 1st year out, similar problems. Buy cyberpunk had the funds to rework it with phantom libery expansion and address all the bugs and graphics issues, when they did it now became a top selling great game. Andromeda could have used a cyberpunk type expansion and patches graphical fixes, adding more story and depth and more planets to explore, if they did that, it could really have taken off to be a great game like the mass effect series is.
I love how everyone complained about the dialogue being so cringe in Andromeda that when Bioware made Veilguard they were like "let's do it again but worse!"
I heard people say that the writers looked at how everyone loved the Citadel DLC and just tried to copy that.
God damn it, I just realize that outrider has the exact same intro - alien world, unknown, anomaly and weather towels - and your FATHER figure dies at the start.
They do that trope a lot it seems
the original Lost Planet game did that as well but with mech and monster
To this day, I will never understand how that "My face is tired" line made it past so many people. A team of writers really sat at a table and were like "Yup that's definitely a sentence that normal human beings say"
Then the supervisor saw it and was like "Yep that's some A+ dialogue right there"
Then the director saw it and was like "Brilliant! Put it in the game!"
Then the voice actor recorded the line like a lobotomized robot and everyone was like "Amazing! One take!" 😂
It's funny because you're writing satire but that's exactly what would have had to happen. 🤣
@@Dantics you can tell I've spent a lot of time thinking about that one line. That's how you know it's historically bad 😂
It was such a great line that it had to be put in her first conversation.
Get people hooked early you know.
lol
That’s the only line of dialogue that I clearly remember.
Here's the easy answer, they were pressed for time, and had to host a particular feminist who gave them routine lectures on how to remove "misogyny" from video games which said feminist and the studio then also had to make videos to boast about thus taking up several hours of the day which equalled the equivalent of days worth or work being wasted just so she could stick it to "racist white men" at their game and company's expense. they didn't have the time or energy to do even basic quality control. Also remember the impact of EA on all games at the time was "we'll fix it after release" and "we need that ESG money we're broke and everyone under the sun is suing us, virtue signal because your life depends on it because I will kill you if I lose this job."
Andromeda was undercooked. After the patches, it was tolerable, but still mid and predictable. But there were absolute gems in there at times. But it really needed another year plus the patches.
It needed another year in the oven for sure
The combat to its credit is actually fantastic, its just a shame literally EVERYTHING ELSE feels like a really shitty imitation of a Mass Effect game. Mass Effect by this point already does kind of feel like a slightly dated mid 2000s grand sci fi, but Andromeda felt like a *parody* of ME rather than a proper entry into the universe.
No, more time would never have helped. It would have needed a complete rewrite and team leaders who cared about or knew about Mass Effect.
But sadly.. they abandoned it. Leaving critical a few game breaking bugs as well.
Pretty ironic that they threw the towel of this.. which had potential.. where they literally shat Anthem and abandoned it at impressive speed.
The writers were cryogenically frozen for 600 years and then thawed out to write for this game.
nah i bet the writers were the same dogwater woke activists that plague gaming today
Moaners like you killed this game. The bugs were mostly sorted. Of course, NEVER use the original Ryder faces. Use mods.
@@steinbauge4591a disappointing storyline disappointing characters not to mention the lackluster sales is what killed the game.
Cope@@steinbauge4591
Nice job on the character customization , he looks exactly like you .
Hahahaha I actually prefer using the defaults because their models always are better rendered
@@Dantics not really an option
Idk, I feel like I'm the only person unbothered by the female krogan you meet towards the beginning. If she found out early on that she's not one of those highly-valued fertile females, I can totally imagine her deciding to go her own way, maybe learn some new skills, and even hop to another galaxy. Not like she's doing much for her species back home, right? She doesn't have to worry about leaving behind a family, if she can't have children (like MOST females!).
It's pretty common to try and put in unexpected characters. They did this with Legion, Javik and EDI's body in the earlier games.
I never knew the female krogan was bothersome to anyone.
I believe that their claim that no DLC was ever planned for this game was just them not wanting to bother, I hate that we never got to know what happened to Turian/Quarian ship.
They wrote a novel about it
Andromeda is a decent game now with all the fixes it had gotten, I played through it a short time ago and had enough fun. The problem for it is that they just abandoned it. The main story is a decent set up, but this could have been easily fixed with updates or DLC taking us to the rest of Andromeda, they had a whole fucking galaxy, literally endless possabilities and not being tied down by the trilogy's story, the only thing you carry over is Shepard's gender and that's just an option you select when starting a new game. Now unless they do an ANdromeda 2 it'll just be an akward game where nothing really got resolved much. Still better then Veilguard.
Damm I was believed that you were gonna be like oh its not all bad
Then you tore into every aspect of the game and made sure to do amazing sarcastic views we all had when it came out
It was too hard to be serious playing this game. Replaying it had me struggling to find much good in it. It's an okay game but damn, it really doesn't have the magic.
@@DanticsUnderstable
I’ve played through it a few times and it’s not that bad and also super super cheap now and worth the asking price. Also I’ll be brutally honest does a few things better than Starfield 😨 🙈 🤣
Definetly does! Exploration for one.
But we have the context of starfield for that comparison. At the time any predating game did the exploration better if in a smaller area. And of course the release asking price was well the release asking price. The game is now worth the product quality+time spent-time wasted virtue signalling with some obscure TH-cam feminist most people have no clue about when I name her, yet who gets invited to everything and seems to just stumble into money like her last name is Clinton.
Completely getting rid of paragon and renegade was a mistake. I wish there were more new races and the enemies were slightly compelling. Other than that, the game is a lot of fun, especially now that it’s not a buggy mess.
@@edwardkitrick5120 it was killed by dumb 'fans'. Actually sales have picked up and it is not a failure now in terms of business.
42gb isn't worth, "not that bad."
Wouldn't even pirate, "not that bad."
Thumbs up for the Shepard, Garrus, Phoebe comic blood 😂😂😂
Honestly never really gave it much thought the Cora Harper concept art looks WAY better, and even more immersive.
With her hair all tied back like that, it gives her face a similar apperance to Asari, and about 78.3% of her whole character is "I trained with Asari" so it kinda works real well.
The lines around her head, cheeks and neck are all very smooth and contoured just like the Asari "head fins"?
Never Forget What They Took From You.
It makes me sad
@@Dantics bro, don't be sad. Be depressed, it's much more efficient this way.
The biggest crime in ME-Andromeda is that one side quest on the Krogan planet that indicates that during the deep space travel the people on the Nexus might have gone through some kind of neurological decay and that is why so many highly trained and specialized personnel act like kids and even revolted, which could explain so much about what's happening. It's as if at the very start of the writing process someone wrote that, put it in there and forgot to tell the other writers about it.
You raise a good point. There was a lot of threads left untethered
The game was decent, despite some frustrating bugs and glitches, which most games suffer from, until patches are added. The amount of patches and fixes is what matters the most, some games do a great job with their patches and fixes, while other games are totallt abandoned. My score for Mass Effect: Andromeda is a 7.5, or 8 at tops.
"Most games suffer from..." does not make a game better. For some games, patches makes them OK. For some, the game still suck (CP2077). For some, it makes it great (or one of the best games ever (Witcher 3)). But for patches to make up for initial faults, the core game in itself needs to be good. ME:A is not such a game. Even after patches it is mediocre at best.
You are nutty if you think cyberpunk 2077 is not on the same lvl as witcher.
@@Dexyu You are entitaled to your opinion. But CP2077 is nowhere near W3 in any way.
W3 had some bugs at launch. I had none with CP2077 except quest not starting or ending and other bits and bobs (game breaking in their own way), but it seems everyone else had. (CP2077 still has t-posing and textures not loading)
W3 was a complete game. CP2077 is still missing parts.
W3 had a decent skill system. CP2077 is still struggling.
W3 had a solid expansion. CP2077 got Phantom Liberty that is a cinematic trailer.
And that are some of the collective and objective truths.
Then there are my opinion which is that CP2077 is brilliant in some parts, but mostly shite.
I would say it was a meh game over all. Meh is fine but fine is not okay for a sequel of such an amazing trilogy imo. That's why people are 'harder' on it. It's fine but it has a lot of problems it shouldn't have had because the studio has already learned what is successful.
@@Dantics Pardon me for the late reply, but any game that has Mass Effect or Dragon Age in the title has to be better than okay or even pretty good. I think Andromeda is an okay game once you overlook the more cringy parts, and could have been worthy of the ME title with another six months to a year to cook and a better/more consistent team working it. It's a coulda...woulda...shoulda game
I never lost Wrex, I never lost a companion in the suicide mission...I don't get how people made the wrong decisions in ME1 and 2...I never did!
Facts. I had to do other playthroughs just to fail loyalty mission or purposely kill my squad
So you kept Jacob alive? There's your mistake.
@@witoldkrasuski2784 He may have given the worst advices but everyone shouldve followed his last advice, send him to the vent 🤣
My first play thru was like that. When I went to do my hard-core etc ones, I lost companions cuz I needed my tanks with me at the final run.
Midway through playing this for the first time after my trilogy replay and my biggest gripe is the main character. I feel like im playing the manager of a walmart, I despise Ryder, there's plenty of other problems too, but having a good player character should be a priority in a RPG.
I'm with you. I point this out multiple times in this video for that reason.
It felt like playing support cast Paul Rudd, or even Adam Scott. It’s a steep decline from original Shepard.
I know compared to Shepherd you're a toaster. But I'm okay with new characters unlike most people
I felt like the entire cast of Andromeda was based on a conversation between a couple of NPCs in the main trilogy that Shepard overhears while roaming around.
No one takes their situation seriously. Consequences aren't really a thing. It's extremely linear and there's no real tension or drama.
After the crap Liam and Peebee pull in their loyalty missions, not giving us the option of booting them off the ship AT MINIMUM was a serious letdown. Shep would have shot Peebee for what she did.
@@sarasunshinemt4444Javik:
“Let me throw them out the airlock Commander.”
My personal reasons I didn't like it:
- although some of the ideas of the skills were great, the balance was in favor of the shooty - boomy style of gameplay making it more of a shooter and less of an action RPG like the originals
- regurgitated bosses and boss battles
- regurgitated mechanics that mimicked UbiSoft games (ugh)
- removed the satisfying "BA-DOOM" biotic explosion
- unmemorable soundtrack
- largely unmemorable characters
- boring plot
Ryder Sr. is voiced by Clancy Brown which is a badass VA and actor in general.
The way they misused Clancy was criminal.
I so would have preferred to play as Rider Sr. Imagine having the same plot but this time you have a ticking clock to save your kids. Or to still have at least one of them on your team and the *chance* to actually lose them if you make a wrong decision at some point.
Higher stakes and tension but nah; let's go with the 20- something wise@$$ that nobody respects instead.
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I also could not STAND that they took my power wheel. The action never pauses and you can't control your team mates, making any biotic or tech combo detonations damn near impossible. It also really limits what you can do during battles.
And all the planets had THE SAME WILDLIFE. I got that it was a system that was heavily terraformed and seeded with life but c'mon!
And then with the "big reveal" of the Kett being changed aliens? Uh, yeah. We already had that with husks etc from the original trilogy. Not a shocker. If anything, it pointed to a kind of Reaper/Collector vibe.
Only real bug I found in this game, during Liam’s “armor” mission he was missing and the cutscene had three jaals. That was a bit awkward
After playing Starfield this game is actually awesome LOL
I love that you put Banjo Kazooie music and DK music to your vids
Thank you for jumping on that grenade! I played it twice and both times put it down exactly where you did. Chalk it up to another interstellar lost expedition. Can't wait till "ME4 The Search for Andromeda"
I hope they make another game but I doubt it. Plus Andromeda was a one way trip. Nails likely sealed that coffin. Damn shame.
I hope we do find Andromeda in a future sequel. I hate not finding out who Andromeda was.
I've played it thru 3 times. Tried it again recently but the removal of the power wheel just annoyed TF out of me, and the lack of control over my team mates powers etc also just ticked me off.
Add to that the glibe nature of almost every conversation and it removed all sense of urgency, tension and drama.
I'll probably try it again sometime. It's OK as a sci-fi game, it's just so not a Mass Effect game.
Despite all the hate i got this game a few months after release and always enjoyed it. It def will never live up to the first 3. mass effect 2 will always be my fav. But it's a good game.
Yes, a lot of hysterics about.
I didn't think it was outstanding or anything, but had the game not been attached to ME it would have got a vastly different reception.
I beat this game on PC recently. It wasn't terrible - I'd rather play it again than Dragon Age Inquisition, for example. I would have preferred if Andromeda followed Dad Ryder when he was doing all his Pathfinder stuff.
See you hit the nail on the head there. Alek Ryder would have made a FAR superior protagonist. Someone you can take seriously.
Fixed character? Really? I don't like that for games that aren't adaptations of movies or books!
It should of never been a MASS EFFECT GAME.. its the worst game in the series and literally a 4-6 at most
While the facial animation movements are disjointed, the postures were very annoying. No one can just stand upright; they are either "sitting on a barstool", have a bad case of sway-back or Ryder having early onset osteoporosis. Also, the strange way they moved while speaking... or didn't move until they finished speaking.
I found the way the Turians and the Salarians were standing very annoying. Like their arms would just hang from their shoulders and they slouch. Was way more natural looking in the original trilogy.
I did not know I needed this. I have been laughing out loud as I shop. Thank you.
I'm so glad! I did this purely for fun, and knowing someone enjoyed it is icing
Dude, you take sarcasm to a new level. It's like listening to someone play a musical instrument - very, very well! Thanks for the chuckles, buddy boy!! 😎🤓😜🥸
Thank you! You made my day
I enjoyed Andromeda, not as much as the holy trilogy, but it's still better than Dragon Age 2 innit. Gamers that put gameplay above the story should love Andromeda, you can space boost whilst cloaked Vanguard Surprise. I'll always customize Sara even when I'm playing default Scott with default Alec switch on
The combat was the only good thing about the game, and that's fucking sad.
Where is the footage from at 1:13?? I keep seeing this footage...is this from a video, or a promotion? The first time I spotted it I thought "Wow, if ME5 looks like THAT I am all there!"
I played it. The ket were weird, but it was pretty good to me. To each their own.
Congratulations.
What I don't understand is how they found this many people who thought the humor was, well humorous. I have said from the start that the writing was terrible, but there are plenty of games with worse dialogue. The problem with ME: Andromeda is that the jokes draw so much attention to the writing which was obviously not the game's strong point. It was like they decided that since combat was probably the weakest part of the ME trilogy, well they should obviously change everything? And they had the same person writing jokes for each character, thereby giving them all the same kinda off sense of humor. It's like when you say something you think is witty just to realize it sounded better in your head. Except in a video game you could have edited it out once you realize that it isn't funny, but they didn't.
Next was Fem Ryder. I get it, Jayde Rossi is too attractive and women don't look like that in real life. The contradiction being that Jayde Rossi is a real person and everyone isn't an out of shape 5'4" 180lbs woman from the US, while the ones with proportions like Fem Ryder are far less common than women with beautiful faces. So why do games, and this almost seems to have started with Andromeda, keep making women's faces _eh_ compared to their models'? They got Male Ryder and Liam almost perfect, so the initial statement about the facial tech not working well seemed dubious from the get-go. As for Cora, I was fine with her hair, though I do like the concept art a bit better. Lol, now her proportions seemed out of whack and I am OK with that.
Moving on to the Asari. Wow did they f that up. From the bodies to their poor, poor faces...how could they possibly let that slide? Also, there was a lot of chatter about not bothering with proper lore, well the Asari portrayal nails that to a "T". I mean c'mon, Peebee has eyebrows! I don't even mind her face as a whole, as I guess she is _cute_ in a bi-sexual high school crush kind of way, but you at least have to know that Asari don't have eyebrows. Bloody heck. Only having two facial models for the Asari in the entire game does not help either. Peebee's and everyone else's.
Vetra was by far my favorite NPC. She definitely had the best overall writing. She didn't have the repeated annoying _quirks_ of Cora, Liam, Peebee or Jarl which goes a long way when those quirks are annoying as heck. _"But I was an Asari commando...", "Back in my days with an elite Asari Commando squad...", "It was hard being the only human on a team of special tactics Asari Commandos..."_ Yes Cora, we get it, you like doing pushups with your shirt off and joking about everything. Oh wait, that may have actually gone a long way in making her repeated dialogue more bearable...
All that said, once I finally got passed Eos (which took me about 35 real life hours over 3 separate attempts at starting the game) I did end up enjoying the game. The graphics were pretty exceptional save female faces and the gameplay was above average. I was not a huge fan of the vaults, but that mostly had to do with not being able to save along with the scanning leading up to them. I've never heard it called _"Scandromeda,"_ but wow does that fit perfectly and was my least favorite part of the game, to the point where I ended up using a trainer to find materials as looking for them manually slowed the game to a crawl. I'd rather launch probes than use the ME:A approach. It wasn't jsut resources either. From the initial sabotage quest to the murder mystery on the planet, I just found it obtrusive to my enjoyment of the game. Once the game found it's footing and scanning was almost exclusively relegated to finding the glyphs to do the puzzles to get into the vaults it didn't bother me as much.
Hopefully they learned what players find most important in these games, with games like Cyberpunk and Baldur's Gate showing that writing really is the most important thing in RPG's, whether they are action based or thoughtful strategy doesn't matter. Writing should be the first priority in the genre. That means not letting companies like _"Sweet Baby Inc"_ within 1000 miles of your drafts. I'm not bothered in the least by "woke" characters, and it makes sense to have as many different personalities as you can, including a harpy uber feminist along with an old school "super" misogynist. What doesn't work is when everyone is straight out of a _"Kickass"_ fanfic written by an 8th grader, which is kinda how the dialogue came off. You have to be some kind of talented to pull off the same type of humor with the entire cast, and even then, it's better when you change it up. _shrug_ Idk what to expect from DA: Dreadwolf or ME 5. I have far more _hope_ for ME 5 than I do Dreadwolf, as Dreadwolf has gone through heck in for the last 7 years, had a lot of the same writers Andromeda had, with what I have to assume was a ton of the dialogue written in a very one-sides social/media climate. ME 5 will be made in an environment where at least gaming companies know what sells and what doesn't. You can't get away with a Spider-Man 2 political _lean_ without a character like Spider-Man being the main selling point of the game.
It's weird, ME: Andromeda would certainly not be considered a _woke_ game by today's standards, but at release it absolutely was (considered a bit too far on the "left" for many long term fans). I didn't see it all that much in the writing and it didn't really bother me. If the next game comes out further left without much, much better writing it is going to be a disaster that could stop ME 5 from ever seeing a release. Just like a game can't go full MAGA and expect to appeal to a wide audience, it can't go full _"Cornpop"_ and expect to sell 15M+ copies either.
Look the writing was bad and it was highlighted far too often. I came up with scandromida this time around simply because I got tired of having to do it for everything that wasn't 'combat' or 'talking'. I wrote in a part about how the female Ryder model was changed and the males wasn't but I had to cut about 20 mins of content (since vid was over an hour). I feel like I get made out to be a conspiracy theorist if I dare suggest there are deliberate attempts to do things like this.
This right here is nitpicking be damned but i respect your opinion. Writing (in my opinion) was very solid for a new game that carried the name of a legendary series. Cora's dialogue was just fine and she has a great ass so she can say whatever she wants.
The ride alongs conversations with different characters was very funny at times and pretty good. Actually Peebee called Cora out for pretending to be a Matriarch and she took offense to that. I saw Peebee's titties (and femsheps tits too) and romanced Liara through all three games of the ME series recently. I didnt notice or care about eyebrows in the slightest.
You said you didnt even play the murder mystery on Kadara (which was ten minutes long at most). That tells me that you likely skipped through the dialogue to finish the game which makes your opinion ultimately invalid.
Also why is everyone using the term "woke" all the time. Yall say woke more than the people pushing woke agendas. Its annoying. I get that the engineer was queer and the ship scientist was a lesbian but who gives a shit? The characters and the conversations you can have with them (a gay guy realizing that he has to contribute to repopulation and a religious scientist whose faith is challenged after Meridian 1 is excellent work) As long as they didnt paint the ship rainbow colored or have a gun that shoots skittles that whispered "taste the rainbow". Or give you the option of making Ryder transgender equipped with a shirt that said "my other penis is a vagina" or vice versa depending on what gender you chose, i highly disagree and consider it to be a cop out becaus you ran out of valid criticisms.
Bro ive played as many video games as a introverted asian kid. Also played every Mass Effect multiple times besides three just yet. Andromeda deserved the title of being a mass effect game and did a lot of things a hell of a lot better than its predecessors. Deserves criticism without a doubt (especially since it was a hot mess at launch) but nowhere near to extent that it has gotten and wont even get a chance to improve. This game got dragged so hard that they didnt even unveil the new DLC for it (Tali is babe so i was really interested in seeing the quarian ark) and most of the DLC for the story is now free.
There are still people playing the multiplayer which is a testament to a game that has been out for half a decade. I digress.
@@prophetmaster4997 Is it nitpicking though ?
@@wolfy6631 a lot was said on this subject.
BOTTOM LINE: If you played through Andromeda with an open mind rather than having your mind made up from all the negative reviews, you would be surprised. I had fun playing this game (in my opinion).
The combat is without a doubt the best out of all three games combined. The writing was NOT terrible and the characters damn sure arent bland. That is pure horseshit.
Most judged this game vs ALL three original games which is asinine. This was a rough draft of what couldve been a new Mass Effect series. The negative reviews killed the budding plant...but to be honest, they did that themselves planting a bad seed by not making sure the game didnt have serious bugs during its launch.
@@prophetmaster4997 I mean, Cora is definitely kinda bland. Her whole personality revolves around Asari LARPing
Let's not forget that this entire thing started before ME3 so I would like to know where did they get all this tech to build citadel 2.0 when citadel 1.0 was made by reapers. Andromeda doesn't even have mass relays...
TLDR; "fvck this, I'm done"
Prettttty much
I actually really enjoyed Andromeda when it was released, considering the events of Ryder are taking place at the same time as Sheppard's campaign against the reapers, im wondering if the new ME, will bring Andromeda into consideration or abandon it totally. Love this video man!
'Technically' it's 600 years after the events, but it doesn't really matter all that much if the next game is set 1000 years after, right? I feel that's what they should do.
@@Dantics ohh really? Thanks for correcting me i had honestly thought it was happening in parallel :)
@@VG_86 oh it's understandable. They leave for Andromeda just after ME2. It takes over 600 years to arrive though!
From what's been gleaned from the teasers so far, the next game should take place not long after Andromeda, and apparently there will be travel between the two galaxies.
Mike Gamble has already said Andromeda will play a role in the game. The real question is, how good is the new writing team?
Andromeda as a game by itself was good and fun, but as a mass effect game.. not so much. I just dont think any enemy can beat the Reapers and therefore it will always feel a little lackluster. Plus the fact that all the asari looked the same was unforgivable
They not only looked the same they had this weird chubby cheek thing going on as well that made them look a little cartoonish.
The memes are on point. Zoidberg one got me HARD
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You know what, for all the GLARING issues with the game, the multiplayer for Mass Effect Andromeda was actually very enjoyable, well balanced, and was clearly the majority of their effort.
Release that and anthem f2p and they might cook.
I love this game. The only things that ever really get to me is how glitchy using cover can be (especially annoying in hard mode) and the facial expressions of the characters.
Yes the cover annoys me, coming straight from ME3 it is very evident.
You can also flirt with the mechanic boy but he’s also just as cardboard.. and the other guy but he tells you he’s straight
Andromeda is... ok. If you aren't expecting Mass Effect level writing, it's playable. Combat is a lot of fun, too.
Oh yes, it really is that bad. Andromeda would have been a mid-game (at best) if they just took the Mass Effect name off of it, but with it having ME attached and being a game in the series, it fails.
Playing through it again now. Andromeda is not as nearly as bad as people made it out to be at release (aside from the stiff facial animations). But it is just *fine*, which after the masterpiece the original trilogy was feels like a bit of a punch in the gut. That said, the game is still enjoyable, and has it's moments. When I first finished the game I still felt like I had fun it so I got what I wanted out of the experience.
I'm not the kind of person who expects EVERY game to be a masterpiece (I think that's an unrealistic expectation many gamers have), but I at least hope the next Mass Effect is a bit more consistent in it's narrative delivery and gameplay polish (save the combat, I really liked the combat in this entry) than Andromeda was.
After warching this, how arent people worried for the new ME? The last two Bioware games have been universally panned flops.
The next Mass Effect has another team that will work on it. Also some very known names. Plus they are using Unreal Engine 5. It is a beast of an engine, I use it too for cinematics. The only thing that can flop is plot. Bugs that occur later can be patched💁🏻♂️
because its not being made entirely by a multiplayer team with no management
Mass Effect Andromeda is way better then starfield.
Agreed unfortunately
Thats crazy because i was choosing between Starfield and Andromeda. Thank god i picked the right one (will play Starfield in time but i know how Bethesda games gets down).
Oh yeah? Mass effect WAS way better? THEN starfield. Yeah I agree starfield did replace Mass Effect in greatness. 😂
Damn Starfield must really suck
It is
Ryder is a looser with bad sense of humor. I don't want to play video games as me, i play video games to feel cool.
I tried playing this game. Less than 2 hours in, i hit a bug where there was literaly no audio. I promptly gave up on the game and shelved it. That says it all.
Overall story line wasn’t that bad, it was just so overshadowed by crappy dialogue. Combat was fun enough that i did multiple games.
1:15 What mod is this, because I've never seen ME look like that?
No mod. It's one of the trailers for ME3
I mean, the one thing I was very surprised to see a lack of sarcasm about was the fact that Peebee jumping you like that is OBVIOUSLY a sexual thing. Like, the lack of subtlety is wild. I've never had a game beat me over the head with "HEY, THIS IS A LOVE INTEREST" that hard before.
Bro, this was the best Mass Effect video I've ever watched on TH-cam. Well, ok. It's the only Mass Effect video I've ever watched on TH-cam. But I still subscribed!
Thank you man. I really appreciate this. Just so I know for next time, what did you enjoy?
Andromeda was good and it was always good. It was just not on the masterpiece level of the shepard trilogy.
You could tell Bioware were giving zero fucks. This is acting your wage the game.
So, the conclusion is YES, the Andromeda is as bad as people say it is. Too shay though, I really loved the Trilogy, hated the endings but the game itself was one extraordinary ride.
You really managed to get Wrex killed? HOW?? Actually nevermind, I don't want to know... How dare you...
I didn't get him killed in my playthroughs until I had to conciously try - he was always my man so I made sure to do his loyality mission
@@Dantics I was kidding. My first blind run was the most successful in all 3 games. In my 2nd run I failed to get Jack's loyalty even after completing her mission... Interesting character. Shame about "Andromeda", I'm still tempted to try it though... maybe...
Noticing that ME:A's opening chapter is almost the same as ME1's.
ME1 :
Eden Prime, introduces antagonist Saren, main object to chase Saren. Establish first two squad mates.
Citadel, introduces incompetent leadership, run around doing errands for lazy security.
Therum, acquire Asari squad mate Liara, who acts like a naive school girl, that can help you understand the old machines.
During this time you acquire a 1000+ year old, red Krogan, a disgruntled male security officer Turian, and a gypsy girl.
MEA :
Habitat 7, introduces antagonist Archon, main object to avoid Archon. Establish first two squad mates.
Nexus, introduces incompetent leadership, run around doing errands for lazy security.
Eos, acquire Asari squad mate Peebee, who acts like a snarky school girl, that can help you understand the old machines.
During this time you acquire a 1000+ year old yellow Krogan, a disgruntled female logistics officer Turian, and a Jamaican.
So what you're saying is the writing is lazy in ME:A? :P
Southern African, not Jamaican.
Pretty common tropes across all games and some media. The errands are to customise you to how the game works, etc.
Being ME would you expect anything to be different?
Try harder.
I can paint the Mona Lisa. I can't paint Mona Lisa as well as Leonardo Da Vinci, even if you give me exactly the same toolset. You can even dot it for me and I will still paint her face like she's tired.
Liam didn't know that the kett were dangerous when first meeting then as Ryder had to push them into cover
Sure but I started shooting first, and he still says 'they' were not friendly when clearly I let my guns do the talking. What a bro.
34:10 not entirely correct. In the first mass effect you never meet Vorcha or Drell (they first appear in mass effect 2), Batarians you meet in the DLC for ME1 (which you cant start until after you leave the Citadel), and well... you SEE Sovereign at the start of ME1, but you dont technically meet it (or even know its a sentient being).
My god I'm only just remembering how much I didn't like Liam. Give me Jacob back.
What weapon should i use if i like AKs and SKS in non scifi game?
The Potato gun.
Superman punching a guy 100meters in the air was fucking gorgious!
The thing that killed it for me was collecting all these stupid materials to craft some "amazing" armor (looked like shit but had good stats) and then the first building I walk into all these no name dudes have the exact same thing on. Just pulled me right out
I did not not know a companion could be written as poorly as Cora in a video game. Ever. Then we meet peanut butter or whatever and she is worse. I mostly ran Liam and the girl boss improvement over garrus.
God, sure I am happy that the Andromeda Initiative took all the ugly Asari to other galaxy, the real MVPs and GOATs
The only thing I could say about this game was that after the patches the gameplay wasn't bad. The rest of it? Cora: "I'm an asari commando and don't you forget it." I hope to god ME5 doesn't go back to Andromeda.
Maybe not, but it still isn't good, the characters are shallow, annoying and/or boring...if I look at the first Mass Effect there's only one half way boring character: Kaidan Alenko (and Ashley can be annoying if you don't know her yet)...but in MEA? I can't name one character I was genuinely interested in! They annoyed the crap out of me. The story also stucks, too and that vehicle? Damned, give me the MAKO any day! At least it has a gun and jump-jets!
Maybe not what sorry? What are you referring to?
damn that kotor music is giving me childhood flashbacks
only turning your brain OFF makes this game good.
no mod or miracle will fix it
Thats the problem. You can't fix the writing
Andromeda was actually pretty good, after they fixed the bugs.
I just started so im not watching this whole thing but only thing thats bothering me so far is that youre not living from what couldve been the result of what you chose from the trilogy.. lets see what happens tho, but i really like it so far.
Don’t get to be a weirdo about women, Dantics. Please.
It's not that bad of a game and the bugs can be funny as
Mass Effect Andromeda is better in 2024 especially in light of the current state of games.
You should do a why commander Shepard shouldn't play Andromeda
Came for the review. Stayed for the simpsons/futurama references.
This game was playable. It definitely doesn’t feel like the trilogy or an extension of it.
36:50 My first thought when I saw that in game was "So, the Ket are just Illithids (Mind Flayers) then?"
Only to have an EXCELLENT game that actually uses Real Mind Flayers years later 😁
Appreciated the banjo kazooie music in this. Classic.
Brought back a flood of memories for me
I played a like 500 hs AND i love this game. It Is not so bad
I keep seeing this video's revisiting games that were panned and saying "are they really that bad" and mostly it just makes me think our standards are lower now because of the utter dogshit being pumped out.
Oh no, watch the vid and you see the game doesn't feel any better.
Is it as bad as they said it was back then? Imo no. It’s still better than SOME AAA titles in 2024. Compared to 1-3 it doesn’t feel like mass effect. But I’ve played way worse.
Definitely not as bad. It's a solid 7/10 for me which is good. It just needed a handful of things to bring it up.
It's better than MOST AAA titles in 2024
Hilarious stuff. More Archon roasting please.
19:25 sounds like how most of my experiences go.
You're right that the sarcasm is draining my life support...and doing so with such intensity that my face is tired.
The head movement of Ryder in SAM node talking to the homicidal alien AI in version 1.10 is just bizarre. It's like he is twisting his neck The Exorcist style. Most of the automatic conversation positioning is messed up with the view centered onto some meaningless target instead of the speaker. But the thing I found really annoying was the termination of access to previously visited locations (Habitat 7, Remnant station city and Meridian) after completion of story arcs. As if the content was deleted from the game files. If you do not do exploration while you engage in a running firefight on Meridian you don't get to recover a data core. The developers showed a certain level of contempt for the players. They could have put more content such as secrets in the gratuitously inaccessible previously visited locations.
I did like how using one power didn’t put the other equipped powers into cool down
Funny video! But... is it weird that my favorite part was recognizing the music as Banjo Kazooie? Ugh, I'm old now! Waaaaaaah!
I mean, who's older? The person who recognises it, or the person who loves it and puts it in? Hehe
@@Dantics It's like in inception. come, let us be old men together.... I might have it backwards
@@Dantics Having just watched Star Wars with my son, I'm also reminded of Obi-Wan Kenobi's great line: Who's the more foolish; the fool, or the fool who follows him?
Damn, I love that character. I hate how the prequels made him a dunce.
Like watching a long form cinema sins video😂
I still have a soft spot for MEA. Still subpar overall, but i just wanted more ME and I guess I fall into the smooth brains who went "ooh DIFFERENT" with some of the 'subverts expectations' stuff, but you aren't wrong 🤷♂️🤷♂️😂
Hahaha look I didn't mind the game. I'm just having a little fun ripping on it 🤣
I like the equipment customization and the power sets, thats about it.
I like all those things too. If there was classes and more than 3 equipped, would have been perfect.
@@Dantics I mean gameplay-wise sure, but the narrative was horrid, it needed more time to cook in the oven. Maybe give your teammates more depth and give the Archon and your twin an actual character.
Bullshit plus the Mass Effect series gave you three abilities to work with...Only three. This one gave you all of them. You had a choice between which special ammo you could use. Maybe barrier (which you get as a passive ability with the biotic tree so that makes 4). Add in the consumables portion and you can have 8 abilities including a goddamn rocket launcher. That definitely trumps ME2 who had to dumb things down because the goated ME1 system was "too much work" 😑
There is more "depth" from all the characters. You can find out more of their personalities as well as who gets along with who since the two characters you take on missions that make you use the nomad for transport will be talking to each other. None of the other ME games did this. The majority of the "cons" coming from most people is putting the term "petty nitpicking" under a microscope and dissecting it for further analysis.
I like the mention of coffee in this one, other ones just had a steaming coffee cup in the menus. Now it's gets a prominent mention. Also I like the freedom between classes as I like biotics a LOT, but I want some soldier based stuff like better armor and guns.
I went in not expecting it to be as good as the Mass Effect trilogy; and, my expectations were met. But, that's okay, because the ME trilogy was astounding and a cult classic - few titles can rival it. And, not trying to compare it, I played it for what it was - and had a good time. Also, the stay frosty quip at the end was a hint on which powers to use there... just sayin'. :)
It was 100% a joke about them being on an ice planet and the fact that 'stay frosty' is a term used to mean 'stay alert'. The enemies them selves are not vulnerable to ice attacks more than usual.
i liked andromeda
it had potrntial (which i knew was ruined)
i simply never gave a shit about anything ryder says
and enjoyed good parts of the game
it was the first mass effect game i played so i didn't have anything that i can compare it to
I see a lot of people recently giving Andromeda a second chance in my recommendations. What’s going on?
Was Starfield this bad?)
Wasn't too recent for me. As a Mass Effect fan I give it another shot every year.
Im glad people are still enjoying this game years later, hopefully they support the games multiplayer and mobile app for a few more years.
Waiting for part 2. Excellent video ❤
it was really nice that the remnant weapons brought the infinite ammo back
I tried to replay this twice since it released, purely as a test to see if modern AAA games had managed to wear down my standards. I was relieved to find that, even with as many mods as I could cram in, I never got further again than about 4 hours. Excellent video.
Thanks! Yeah look if you don't like it within 4 hours you never will. I found it 'okay' but never the same level as the trilogy.
39:37
I bailed on my 3rd play thru when they had the side quest to save the alien whales.
Like....REALLY?!
14:30
you should've been able to say 14:38
if i don't then you're even more screwed than before
My first time playing the game I went with the female Ryder, she came out better than the male, and Suvi was receptive. A computer problem led me to restart and as default male Suvi rejects me. So can't romance lady with accent. Suvi = Judy
It's a shame really.
I really liked the design of Tempest. I think the loft was a little silly but I like the ship enough to let that slide. If Normandy is an A- (comon, it was a little wonky) and the ME3 SR-2 an A+ (the interior of the original SR-2 was dumb, especially with the cargo deck off limits and the armory where it was, also the concept of S tier can F off, its idiotic and cheap), then Tempest is a solid B+.
Credit to BioWare... they came up with a way to have another game in the franchise without ruining anyone's experience of the trilogy.
What happened to the Reapers? What happened to Shepard? ...doesn't matter! This crew is 600 years and an entire galaxy away; whatever choices YOU made in the trilogy, that's YOUR canon!
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Now, yes, Andromeda launched with issues; but thankfully most of those have been fixed. However, i think the big issue of why Andromeda failed is that everyone was comparing it to the entire Shepard trilogy, and not treating it as a 'part 1' of a new trilogy. When Mass Effect 1 came out, they didn't know if it would be a hit or not, so they made an open and closed story. Saren was defeated and the Reapers were prevented from coming through the relay. Same thing with Back to the Future or the original Star Wars, open and closed first story, but then when it became a hit, part 2 was open ended to lead into 3. But since the Mass Effect trilogy was already a hit, BioWare didn't feel like they needed to make part 1 of the Andromeda story open and closed; the fans should know that there will be more. But when they're comparing this 1 new game to the 3-games worth of story arc and expecting this new game to be all of that in one...well of course it doesn't hold up to the trilogy.
Which is why now, instead of getting parts 2 & 3 of the Andromeda trilogy, they're having to find a way to connect the Andromeda crew back to the Milky Way. Which means they ARE going to have to canonize an ending to Mass Effect 3 and ruin 2/3rds of the fans' own canon based on their play style and choices.
.....and all because people couldn't accept that Andromeda was part 1 of a new story so that ALL of the fans could have a new, clean slate experience without undermining their choices in the original story.
From the get go, I wondered how in the HELL they crashed into something the size of damn nebula. Also, showing up defenseless aside from small arms was probably unwise.
Of all the issues with the game, I think the most damning is the lack of give a damn I had for the squad. I couldn't name a single squad member from memory until I watched this. The main character wasn't much better. I think I vaguely remembered the name being Ryder.
The multiplayer was also sort of meh, I only played it a few hours whereas I played the multiplayer in ME3 for hundreds of hours.
But I do thank you for this. It gave me lots of great laughs.
What's more damning about the lack of weapons is that it's actually super easy to strap a few onto ships since the tech uses mass effect fields (essentually meaning they don't need to carry heavy ammo).
I was the same, I had to really sit and think to remember names and I still can't name you side characters. Where I can name you the order which side characters come up in ME:Trilogy.
I didn't like the new alien dudes at all and was disappointed at the character you play... I was like why did they get rid of Shepard but then did the same thing again. You are basically playing another Shepard.....why didn't they allow you to make your character in like a skyrim fashion? Make a Krogan with his own unique race benefits kinda thing...but no basically a worse Shepard.
Them crashing into something the size of a nebula is not that unbelievable. First off they had been asleep for 600 years, which is plenty of time for something to show up that wasn't there before. Also, 2nd when we look at distant stars we are not looking at the present, we are looking at the past, hundreds, thousands or even millions of years ago. So they didn't even know what it would look like there when they left.
I will agree that they were way under armed though.
@@SSJGumberculesI mean were they? The outcasts took kadara port from the kett pretty easily
the game was made with low budget at the time, and no funds to fix, patch make and expansion to really make it the game like mass effect series everyone loves could have been. due to cash issues, the game got dumped after launch due to so many complaints the sales tanked so, they could not drive enough revenue to fix it.
Example is cyberpunk 2077 was riddled with issues on launch and 1st year out, similar problems. Buy cyberpunk had the funds to rework it with phantom libery expansion and address all the bugs and graphics issues, when they did it now became a top selling great game.
Andromeda could have used a cyberpunk type expansion and patches graphical fixes, adding more story and depth and more planets to explore, if they did that, it could really have taken off to be a great game like the mass effect series is.