*WARNING* There's a couple gory moments in this game. There are chapter markers indicating those moments and timestamps as a response to this comment. Almost forgot, here's Draz's write up about some of the Chinese mythology present in this game: links.sss-stream.com/drazsolslore Secret Sleepover Society is every Sunday & Wednesday at 9 pm ET www.twitch.tv/secretsleepoversociety
I love Chinese mythology and there are so many cool references in this game. I really want to share these little easter eggs so that others can get them! Just some context, I’m from Norther China, so a lot of my knowledge is based off of the local traditions there. There are regional differences, and this game was made by Taiwanese developers. Please free to add on or correct me in the comments! Ninety-nine heavens: In Chinese mythology, people believe that there are 9 layers of heaven. Hence the ninety-nine heavens. Peaches: There are special peaches in Chinese mythology that is believed to grant mortals eternal life. Hence all the mention of peaches and the peach festival in the village in the game. Shennong: A ruler in ancient China (many stories about him are exaggerated since it was old old China, like before the first dynasty China, he’s almost a combination of myth and history). He is believed to be the one that introduced medicine and farming to ancient China. He later became known as the Yan Emperor. One story of him is that he tried hundreds of herbs and poisons to learn about their medicinal properties. Apparently he had a clear stomach, so if an herb was poisonous, his intestines would turn black and people could see through his clear belly. He also died by eating a poisonous herb (apparently). Haotian sphere: This might be a reference to the respectful name for god or the heavens/sky (Hao Tian). But I’m not sure which characters the name is, so I could be wrong. Fusang: A mystical location in Chinese mythology at the east most point in the world. It is believed that this place has two trees intertwined with each other and is where the sun rests. So Fusang can refer both to the location and the two trees. Fu sang is also another name for the Chinese Hibiscus (a red hisbiscus), which is probably why the beginning of the game mentioned getting the Crimson Hibiscus. I also think the “tentacles” in the games are supposed to be tree roots, nodding to the Fusang in Chinese mythology. Kunlun: the mystical mountain where Chinese people believe the gods lived on. It is also a mountain range in China. Tiandao: a rough translation is “God’s way”. Tian means sky or god in Chinese (not a specific god, but meaning more like the heavens); Dao means way (the same character for Daoism/Taoism). Penglai: the name for the mystical realm where Chinese people believed the gods lived. Google said that Penglai is more of a Daoist/Taoist term. Fangshi: Again I’m not sure what the Chinese characters are, but this could be a reference to 方士, a priest shamen like person that provided divination and was seeking to create a formula for immortality. Almost like an alchemist. Jin: I think the character they’re using is 金, which means gold (or money in this context). Shanhai: This is NOT Shanghai the city haha. It is Shanhai (there’s one less g). The pronunciation is very similar if you’re not familiar with Chinese and Chinese tones. The Chinese book of mystical creatures is called “The Scroll of Mountains (Shan” and Seas (Hai)”. So Shanhai literally means mountains and seas, but is also a reference to the Scroll of Mountain and Seas. Kuafu: A God. He was believed to be very strong and hung snakes on his ears. One story of him is that he chased the sun (because the sun killed a lot of his tribe’s people). He got really thirsty and drank dry the Yellow River and Wei River. He was still thirsty and tried to run to a lake/river in the north. He died of thirst before he could get there. He threw his staff before he died, which turned into a forest. Tao Fruit: I’m not sure what this is. Heng: I don’t remember Hou Yi having a sister, but I’m not sure. If others know, please add! Some other cool easter eggs: Yi’s coat looks like a Dao Pao, a Daoist/Taoist garb worn usually by Daoist/Taoist practitioners. A lot of the cat statues in the hallways are based off of Buddhist and Daoist/Taoist imagery. The big floppy arm “puppet’ in the peach festival in the beginning of the game is based off of Southern China traditions where they make big paper and bamboo floats/puppets of gods and parade them across town. The “flappy arms” are quite characteristic of these “puppets”.
Maybe they like Feng brothers and sisters Yi Heng may be the model of Hou Yi and Chang'e. Although the original setting is not brother and sister, Chang'e's original name on Wiki is "Hengwo"
This is awesome! As a non-Chinese person learning Mandarin, it was nice to see some of the words I knew (like 金) and also learn more about the culture! I really hope that Jacob and Julia keep playing =)
As a non-Chinese enthusiast of global folklore, I’m gonna bandwagon this to mention an interesting fact about Hou Yi and the Ten Suns: While Hou Yi was a hero for shooting down nine of the suns and was, in fact, operating on the orders of the Jade Emperor, killing them was still considered a crime, so the Jade Emperor stripped him of his godhood and cast him down to the mortal realm, mirroring the intro where the cat grandma threw Yi off a cliff. Of course, I’m not sure how the Jade Emperor was expecting an archer god to solve the problem of nine extra suns if not through archery, but that’s actually indicative of a broader trend in Chinese folklore that I find very interesting where their spirits and gods are very bureaucratic and story beats include stuff like “this god has been embezzling taxed incense offerings that were supposed to go to the wages of the less worshiped but still vital bureaucrats” or “strictly speaking, doing something and doing nothing are both illegal so they just found someone with low enough political power to solve the problem and take the punishment”.
The 'you remained very calm' part reminded me of when I was being made over for a TV show, and they spent 1.5 hours just plucking my brows. My eyes were watering so badly that the only way to stop the water coming out was to keep my eyes closed. Over an hour in, the person doing the plucking commented how stoic I'd been the whole time.
watch these cats explore the age of technology! 0:25 immediate new angled olive + poking her snoot 0:54 less visible desk cats 3:16 it's all for the sake of cat toys 8:08 joy has something to say + lap cat + can't pet + olive makes her way over 11:53 olive catblocking the screen 14:33 joy does a lil clean 30:30 more visible lap cats 55:33 joy does some more cleaning 1:07:00 olive comes over 1:08:00 two cats, two laps, three on-screen cats 1:13:30 olive makes her way 1:15:00 background olive makes her way back to julia's lap and around 1:19:04 joy having a good dream time 1:19:47 the pains of being a cat owner 1:22:24 petting joy and olive + joy does an excellent stretch before moving to roll on the rodecaster + olive face zoom 1:23:58 olive gets going too 1:29:00 hello joy cat 1:52:53 dreamin joy 1:58:37 comforting joy + touching her belly 1:59:50 fixing the cables for joy's loaf comfort
My number one cable management tip is just get a big roll of two-sided hook and loop, easy to use, looks neat, you can cut off exactly the sized pieces you need, it's cheap AF so you don't have to be stingy with it, and if you ever need to add/remove/move/change anything you can freely just unstick and restick without having to start completely from scratch.
Yes! I use the double sided velcro stuff, but basically the same. Looks so snazzy, plus you can use it to tape up rolls of unused cables, of which I have an entire drawer of.
@@ourDreamcatcher Velcro is the trade name for hook and loop tape. It's like Kleenex or Xerox, where the trade name from one brand kind of became the name for the thing in everyday speech.
"Why didn't he save the first two people?!" Obviously, he needed a shorter Apeman to make the Harvester drop lower. That's probably why he gave Shuanshuan the flower in the first place. No, I am NOT a tsundere! Why do you keep sayong that?!
I love how Julia has apparently been just feeling out the boss fights in Bloodborne, not thinking about patterns and just kind of feeling where to land hits, because that is really something given how much she has just breezed through some fights I have seem people struggle on.
Sometimes the ability to do something well, especially at speed, is hindered by active thought. I am like that with puzzle games and mental calculations. I get it right if I don't think about it, but once I do I stumble. Considering Julia tends to second guess herself, it actually doesn't surprise me that this method works so well for her. She *knows* how, she just has to not think too hard about it.
I was going to have this on in the background while I played a different game but it ended up being much too absorbing and I just watched the video the whole time. I have ADHD, so that is a rare accomplishment
i like the new angle, it feels a bit cozier i think? but also i just love to be able to see the producers (im sure everyone else is already saying this lol)
Julia get AK Interactive mini paints, they are better then Citadel , the paint pots dry out quick and they are easy to spill. i found AK has some of the best coverage and pigment
julia knowing the .hack series was not on my bingo card but im extremely happy it happened, especially since ive been getting back into it again recently
i was not expecting that take on jack black/alanis morissette but it’s actually so true update: i found a slowed version of you oughta know. he’s right. it’s jack black. i’m gobsmacked.
OMG i dont know how i didnt expect this cuz yall have excellent taste but im so excited you guys are playing this im in love with this game and was waiting for my fav tubers to play
Don't worry ShuanShuan will be fine. He will never die... frick now that I've said this people will think I'm lying and leading them on when I'm not. I've seen someone play the game and he doesn't die. He just gets depression in the true ending.
13:27 me when my crush said "refwidowwader" and i went "uwu?" at work 43:15 NOT THE ANTI CAT FIELD!! 1:02:05 ANIME MOMENT 1:32:40 SCREAMING THIS IS MY FAVORITE JACOB QUOTE 1:39:23 i was washing dishes the first time i heard this and i came back and still thoguht the same thing as Jacob akldjsfjksdfjkl 1:52:30 i need the artists' commission rates for no particular reason...
It’s very funny cause I watched the videos out of order so when I saw a later one with a different angle I was confused but I guess I just missed the explaination from here haha
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*WARNING* There's a couple gory moments in this game. There are chapter markers indicating those moments and timestamps as a response to this comment.
Almost forgot, here's Draz's write up about some of the Chinese mythology present in this game: links.sss-stream.com/drazsolslore
Secret Sleepover Society is every Sunday & Wednesday at 9 pm ET
www.twitch.tv/secretsleepoversociety
I think we're missing the timestamps comment?
Guys?
@@paintycup description! c:
“Hey guys it’s ShaunShaun. Today we’re speedrunning getting cancelled on the internet”
I love Chinese mythology and there are so many cool references in this game. I really want to share these little easter eggs so that others can get them! Just some context, I’m from Norther China, so a lot of my knowledge is based off of the local traditions there. There are regional differences, and this game was made by Taiwanese developers. Please free to add on or correct me in the comments!
Ninety-nine heavens: In Chinese mythology, people believe that there are 9 layers of heaven. Hence the ninety-nine heavens.
Peaches: There are special peaches in Chinese mythology that is believed to grant mortals eternal life. Hence all the mention of peaches and the peach festival in the village in the game.
Shennong: A ruler in ancient China (many stories about him are exaggerated since it was old old China, like before the first dynasty China, he’s almost a combination of myth and history). He is believed to be the one that introduced medicine and farming to ancient China. He later became known as the Yan Emperor. One story of him is that he tried hundreds of herbs and poisons to learn about their medicinal properties. Apparently he had a clear stomach, so if an herb was poisonous, his intestines would turn black and people could see through his clear belly. He also died by eating a poisonous herb (apparently).
Haotian sphere: This might be a reference to the respectful name for god or the heavens/sky (Hao Tian). But I’m not sure which characters the name is, so I could be wrong.
Fusang: A mystical location in Chinese mythology at the east most point in the world. It is believed that this place has two trees intertwined with each other and is where the sun rests. So Fusang can refer both to the location and the two trees. Fu sang is also another name for the Chinese Hibiscus (a red hisbiscus), which is probably why the beginning of the game mentioned getting the Crimson Hibiscus. I also think the “tentacles” in the games are supposed to be tree roots, nodding to the Fusang in Chinese mythology.
Kunlun: the mystical mountain where Chinese people believe the gods lived on. It is also a mountain range in China.
Tiandao: a rough translation is “God’s way”. Tian means sky or god in Chinese (not a specific god, but meaning more like the heavens); Dao means way (the same character for Daoism/Taoism).
Penglai: the name for the mystical realm where Chinese people believed the gods lived. Google said that Penglai is more of a Daoist/Taoist term.
Fangshi: Again I’m not sure what the Chinese characters are, but this could be a reference to 方士, a priest shamen like person that provided divination and was seeking to create a formula for immortality. Almost like an alchemist.
Jin: I think the character they’re using is 金, which means gold (or money in this context).
Shanhai: This is NOT Shanghai the city haha. It is Shanhai (there’s one less g). The pronunciation is very similar if you’re not familiar with Chinese and Chinese tones. The Chinese book of mystical creatures is called “The Scroll of Mountains (Shan” and Seas (Hai)”. So Shanhai literally means mountains and seas, but is also a reference to the Scroll of Mountain and Seas.
Kuafu: A God. He was believed to be very strong and hung snakes on his ears. One story of him is that he chased the sun (because the sun killed a lot of his tribe’s people). He got really thirsty and drank dry the Yellow River and Wei River. He was still thirsty and tried to run to a lake/river in the north. He died of thirst before he could get there. He threw his staff before he died, which turned into a forest.
Tao Fruit: I’m not sure what this is.
Heng: I don’t remember Hou Yi having a sister, but I’m not sure. If others know, please add!
Some other cool easter eggs:
Yi’s coat looks like a Dao Pao, a Daoist/Taoist garb worn usually by Daoist/Taoist practitioners.
A lot of the cat statues in the hallways are based off of Buddhist and Daoist/Taoist imagery.
The big floppy arm “puppet’ in the peach festival in the beginning of the game is based off of Southern China traditions where they make big paper and bamboo floats/puppets of gods and parade them across town. The “flappy arms” are quite characteristic of these “puppets”.
Love getting more context. This game was clearly made with a lot of care
Love learning about other groups of people and their histories/customs, this game is so beautiful and it’s a very cool peak into Chinese cultures!
Maybe they like Feng brothers and sisters
Yi Heng may be the model of Hou Yi and Chang'e. Although the original setting is not brother and sister, Chang'e's original name on Wiki is "Hengwo"
This is awesome! As a non-Chinese person learning Mandarin, it was nice to see some of the words I knew (like 金) and also learn more about the culture! I really hope that Jacob and Julia keep playing =)
As a non-Chinese enthusiast of global folklore, I’m gonna bandwagon this to mention an interesting fact about Hou Yi and the Ten Suns:
While Hou Yi was a hero for shooting down nine of the suns and was, in fact, operating on the orders of the Jade Emperor, killing them was still considered a crime, so the Jade Emperor stripped him of his godhood and cast him down to the mortal realm, mirroring the intro where the cat grandma threw Yi off a cliff.
Of course, I’m not sure how the Jade Emperor was expecting an archer god to solve the problem of nine extra suns if not through archery, but that’s actually indicative of a broader trend in Chinese folklore that I find very interesting where their spirits and gods are very bureaucratic and story beats include stuff like “this god has been embezzling taxed incense offerings that were supposed to go to the wages of the less worshiped but still vital bureaucrats” or “strictly speaking, doing something and doing nothing are both illegal so they just found someone with low enough political power to solve the problem and take the punishment”.
I wonder if Jacobs new pc can handle Nancy drew
NEW ANGLE, AAAAAAAAAAAAAH. Oh sorry that was the thing i WASN'T supposed to do! Oops.
Ghost Trick, Nine Sols... Can't explain it, but there's something about Jacob voicing cats that just seems ✨️right✨️ 🐱😆
I’m also a fan of ejecting terfs into space
The 'you remained very calm' part reminded me of when I was being made over for a TV show, and they spent 1.5 hours just plucking my brows. My eyes were watering so badly that the only way to stop the water coming out was to keep my eyes closed. Over an hour in, the person doing the plucking commented how stoic I'd been the whole time.
watch these cats explore the age of technology!
0:25 immediate new angled olive + poking her snoot
0:54 less visible desk cats
3:16 it's all for the sake of cat toys
8:08 joy has something to say + lap cat + can't pet + olive makes her way over
11:53 olive catblocking the screen
14:33 joy does a lil clean
30:30 more visible lap cats
55:33 joy does some more cleaning
1:07:00 olive comes over
1:08:00 two cats, two laps, three on-screen cats
1:13:30 olive makes her way
1:15:00 background olive makes her way back to julia's lap and around
1:19:04 joy having a good dream time
1:19:47 the pains of being a cat owner
1:22:24 petting joy and olive + joy does an excellent stretch before moving to roll on the rodecaster + olive face zoom
1:23:58 olive gets going too
1:29:00 hello joy cat
1:52:53 dreamin joy
1:58:37 comforting joy + touching her belly
1:59:50 fixing the cables for joy's loaf comfort
you are a hero
@@lee-kk8ul thank you (｡•̀ᴗ-)✧
The world is wonderful and you are the timekeeper of its joy (and olive)
@@Ironattheend Thank you for the praise and for your wonderful wordplay 🫡
29:25 "Robots sound like Twimble?" and I had just finished the Lemon Cake VOD again too
My number one cable management tip is just get a big roll of two-sided hook and loop, easy to use, looks neat, you can cut off exactly the sized pieces you need, it's cheap AF so you don't have to be stingy with it, and if you ever need to add/remove/move/change anything you can freely just unstick and restick without having to start completely from scratch.
Yes! I use the double sided velcro stuff, but basically the same. Looks so snazzy, plus you can use it to tape up rolls of unused cables, of which I have an entire drawer of.
@@ourDreamcatcher Velcro is the trade name for hook and loop tape. It's like Kleenex or Xerox, where the trade name from one brand kind of became the name for the thing in everyday speech.
@@emisformaker oh! I didn't know that. I assumed hook and loop were the straps with the little tabs that you can loop in. Kind of like a belt?
@@ourDreamcatcher Not to worry. I needed to be employed at a fabric store before I learned.
I’m glad they warned me about the new angle so I could pause the video and come back when I was in a better headspace
I remember the thumbnail for those gnomes from Bramble. I know that boy will not be fine
"Why didn't he save the first two people?!" Obviously, he needed a shorter Apeman to make the Harvester drop lower. That's probably why he gave Shuanshuan the flower in the first place. No, I am NOT a tsundere! Why do you keep sayong that?!
I love how Julia has apparently been just feeling out the boss fights in Bloodborne, not thinking about patterns and just kind of feeling where to land hits, because that is really something given how much she has just breezed through some fights I have seem people struggle on.
Sometimes the ability to do something well, especially at speed, is hindered by active thought. I am like that with puzzle games and mental calculations. I get it right if I don't think about it, but once I do I stumble. Considering Julia tends to second guess herself, it actually doesn't surprise me that this method works so well for her. She *knows* how, she just has to not think too hard about it.
My grandfather is Wallace "Shaun" Shaunfield.
Shaun Shaun to a select few.
Is he a streamer?
@@MadCheshireHat unfortunately no. He's a retired electrical engineer, and like 86.
1:50:51 it’s like how pitched up hozier sounds like Dolly Parton
To the tune of who let the dogs out: old lady sphynx cat!
Im concerned, panicked, crying, peeing and pooing
I was going to have this on in the background while I played a different game but it ended up being much too absorbing and I just watched the video the whole time. I have ADHD, so that is a rare accomplishment
It really is a "now what?" sorta game.
We have BOCES here around Syracuse, NY too. Excellent programs!
I am so glad they finally played this! It quickly became one of my fav games, I love it so much 😭
Somewhere out there MoonMoon is staring at the ground thinking
“Damnit ShuanShuan are we both looking at the same night’s sky?”
Wheezing
If you were curious about the name of the currency, "jin" means gold in Mandarin
I didnt realize red candle were the creators of this game!!! Devotion is one of my top games ever, so excited to see yall support them
I cant tell if the new angle thing is a joke because my brains so borked
the angle is indeed new if you’re saying you’re unsure if it actually changed
i like the new angle, it feels a bit cozier i think? but also i just love to be able to see the producers (im sure everyone else is already saying this lol)
I’m 7 out of 9 sol seals into this game and just found this before i go sleepe, am a happy gremlin, lookin forward to watching the gamin streamme
the animation and general style of this game is really reminding me of spiritfarer!
I love this so much I really hope they continue with this game!
Julia get AK Interactive mini paints, they are better then Citadel , the paint pots dry out quick and they are easy to spill. i found AK has some of the best coverage and pigment
50:13 oh thank god chat was on the same brainwave as me; i also immediately said (out loud) "wake me up inside" after Jacob said "bring me to life" XD
julia knowing the .hack series was not on my bingo card but im extremely happy it happened, especially since ive been getting back into it again recently
i was not expecting that take on jack black/alanis morissette but it’s actually so true
update: i found a slowed version of you oughta know. he’s right. it’s jack black. i’m gobsmacked.
Great new angle, very pleasinfg. ^_^
Getting some Dust: An Elysian Tale vibes from this.
As a good Chinese story, the protagonist has been healing for like 700 years…
Just watched the chained together stream at onsta's channel yesterday, twas very fun ^^
I had been curious about this game- super excited to see you guys play it!
i love the underground ost so much, i sentence you to a million years playlist
OMG i dont know how i didnt expect this cuz yall have excellent taste but im so excited you guys are playing this im in love with this game and was waiting for my fav tubers to play
The American measurement system gets crazier and crazier.
such a cool game!! would love to see more!!
BOCES IS ACROSS NY FOR SURE!!
Don't worry ShuanShuan will be fine. He will never die... frick now that I've said this people will think I'm lying and leading them on when I'm not. I've seen someone play the game and he doesn't die. He just gets depression in the true ending.
99 problems, 99 luftballoons, 99 heavens...
and 99 Ranch. Perfect.
Idk if I could have handled the new angle if Olive wasn't there.
00:27 I shid
BOCES in the chat!! fun whenever Julia triggers my New York memories
39:09 Check out her collab song with Mariya Takeuchi, queen of city pop
Without spoiling the game I just gotta say I love Shuanshuan so much
We love when Julia speaks to us Long Islanders directly lmao
When Julia said "That's not for you" I thought it was a Jenna/Julian reference. Now I have to look up Becca Moore.
i literally just pissed my pants looking at this new angle
Watching this right after getting my wisdom teeth out, having a great day honestly
I really hope that yall continue this :) I'm terrible at platformers but am super interested to know what happens
59:00 me too, Jakob.
Just watch her beat the orphan of Kos on like her 3rd try now and just end the stream after 15 minutes haha
I knew about the Hou-Yi myth, but I didn't make the connection with Yi's name until you guys mentioned it.
13:27 me when my crush said "refwidowwader" and i went "uwu?" at work
43:15 NOT THE ANTI CAT FIELD!!
1:02:05 ANIME MOMENT
1:32:40 SCREAMING THIS IS MY FAVORITE JACOB QUOTE
1:39:23 i was washing dishes the first time i heard this and i came back and still thoguht the same thing as Jacob akldjsfjksdfjkl
1:52:30 i need the artists' commission rates for no particular reason...
HELLO YAMMERS!!! HELLO NEW ANGLEEEE!!!!
Put subs on for the first time in a while and the colour coding is so fun!!
It’s very funny cause I watched the videos out of order so when I saw a later one with a different angle I was confused but I guess I just missed the explaination from here haha
Wahhhhhaa! Solarian, solar, cooperation, jolly cooperation.. Solaire??!
Yo! Nine me's? I can't even with just lil' me!
Yo, this game is dope AF~
What if it were the Unlimited Freaky Realm where we get freaky?
26:08 took me OUT
Speaking of sync, Do you calibrate your monitors with a colorimeter? And why is it hard to get ICC profiles from print shops?
Wahooooooo
1:24:43 but it was spelled eons
and Jacob will never know.
Rip the almost 2k coins
❤❤❤❤❤
*shits pants* new angle?!
Idk it it’s just a coincidence but sol literally means sun in Swedish
Sol also means sun in Latin! It's why there are words like solar :D
chill
im sure the new angle cant be that badOHFRICKWHAT ISTHIS
weeping and pooping
1:27:40
The awful whirring behind Jacob and Julia talking is back with vengeance :(
Dear Americans: Shone is pronounced 'shon', not 'shown'.
Interesting, does the e change the pronunciation in the language?
Is all that yogurt making Jacob play tootie games?
Aaaaahwweeeeeeewoooooooahaaaaaaaayereereeeeeeeecool
The art style of this game is so pretty!! Reminds me of the game, Spiritfarer 🫶🩵