9:30 Metatron: "It provides a lot of mobility for your head..." also Metatron *moves his whole body left and right to demonstrate the mobility of the head*
The helmet and the breastplate are a possible historical configuration. Just because something was old didn´t mean it wasn´t used anymore, it could be your great grandfathers or someting like that. Shouldn´t be there any padding under the barbute?
Well if you were not "well off" than you would choose old armour pieces. Be it from your family or somewhere else. There was also a huge market for old and used arms and armor. Why waste good armour because it is old?
To be honest Istanbul wasn't called Istanbul officially until the Republic period , so it's officially been Istanbul for like just 100 years give or take. It ain't that in the past in the grand scheme of things.
It would be awesome if you made a video on the armour of the Teutonic Knights. There are so many fantasy elements in modern representations of them; it would be nice to have an accurate source of information on them.
@@SuperFunkmachine The frogmouth Metatron is referring to is the one that is attached to your breast plate if you look closely around 60-70% of the examples seem to be frogmouth style visors attached to normal helmets separated from the breast plate. On the rest you either can't tell because of lack of detail or there's something in the way. Though some are definitely the big frogmouths they look to be mostly scenes depicting duels not battlefields. Not saying it was never done but probably mostly some having throat sliced phobic people wore them to battle.
@@boku5192 The fixed to the breast plate style is rare but the Great Bascinet's with plate that stops on the shoulder and locks there under impact is quite common. See The Palazzo Ducale Bascinet th-cam.com/video/mSjmxMfEtvE/w-d-xo.html
I am not shure what you mean. I thought that with your response you wanted to prove the og. comment that jousting frogmouths sk.pinterest.com/pin/569564684117077277/ were readily used outside of jousting The video you shared (btw thanks it's interesting) is about a different type of helmet. The great basinet which is not atached to armor. Also the one in the video is the only exemplar this big while others from this fammily have plates more modest. From what i understand fixed frogmouth is quite common tournament helmet which has little use on foot because you're useles if you can't move your head. I agree that on few of shared pics are depicting the outside of jousting use of jousting frogmouth i , og and (i assume) Metatron talked about. But as i said the context of those seem to be duels not battles. On the rest of them are depicted Great Bascinet's with frogmouth visor/faceplate(not shure if it's a correct term) and normal Bascinets with frogmouth visor.
You're one of my favourite people, Metatron. So genuine, sincere and authentic in your love of history, education, truth, and entertainment! Your videos always keep me engaged and i always feel assured that you're looking after everyone's best interests with your influence and platform This realisation has also made me a Patreon
Loving the blue palette you are using on the thumbnails. Also, glad to see you are getting closer and closer to the full set of armour and clothing you've been aiming to for quite some time now. Great video, as always. Keep it up!!
Nice video again. I never really putted much thought to those little ridges on the plate armor. It's nice to know they actually served a very specific purpose of catching the blade.
As I started the video I was thinking how I missed some of those funny intros when you would pose overdramatically in your older videos. Thankfully this video delivered on that front later on :D
interesting thank you Metatron. i have a Tod Cutler Quillon Dagger that would go through the one you were wearing but the one that you were holding looked like it would stop it. they both looked beautifully made, you are very fortunate to have them, it looked appropriately great.
Hello Metatron. Could you analyse "Caesars legion" from Fallout: New Vegas and sort of rate how roman they are? Quick Summary: The world got destroyed through nuclear war, the suvivers struggle living in the wasteland. On man that calls himself Caesar now, trys to rebuild a society based on the romans. He counquered 86 different tribes, unifiyng them. The legion gets generally portrayed as bad guys, mostly because of their slavery, violence, executions and zero tolerance to anyone not sharing their ideals. Also if the roman empire would have used similiar tactics, in regard of the advanced technology. For example: The legion is known to booby trap places they raided with mines. Legion recruits use mostly melee weapons, higher ranks often ballistic guns and the praetorian guard uses ballistic fists, basically a super advanced mechanical gauntlet that also shoots shotgun ammuniton. This is a larger project because there is so much lore, ecpecially if you are unfamiliar with Fallout: New Vegas. But it would be very intresting to see how accurate Caesar build his society.
For my 1388 kit that U use for harnessfechten and reenactment, I wear a Corazzina with a maille standard as well as a hounskull bascinet. The aventail of the bascinet doesn't do anything to stop a blade from beneath, and the corazzina doesn't have the stoprib like the steel cuirass does.
Metatron: apologises for a slight anachronism between helm and breastplate. Hollywood: what about a fully armoured knight with a machine gun? Who would notice?
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That would actually be a pretty good idea for a show. The idea of medieval people discovering paratime travel _and exploiting it_ is such an untapped idea in fiction these days. I can see the opening shot now. _A 12th century English baron strides into the great hall of his castle. He's just come back from a gun show, gun nestled in one shoulder and two bags slung over the other. One's filled with enough bullets to shoot everyone in the castle and the surrounding village ten times over. After setting that one down, he walks into his bedchamber, where he takes his Medieval-to-Modern English dictionary out of the remaining bag and sets it gingerly back into his bookshelf._ _This haul is much like many he's made over the past, and he'll certainly be making a few more such trips in the weeks before he and his retinue muster at London, where they will join the dozens of other barons waiting to ship out to Aquitaine, where king Richard and his Crusading army await them._ _With any luck, every baron would be able to field a full gun battalion. In fact, rumor had it king Richard had bought enough machine guns for a full chariot company._ See, the possibilities are endless!
8:55 to be honest i never understood why they used coifs for so much time, its not like they didn't had helmets...maybe just for the side of the head, but they used mail all the way up to their heads.
I have a question and that is on your video about the fight scene in Barbarians and your conclusion and I was wondering if you took into consideration the barbarian was using a mall a heavy splitting axe and that he hit armenius in a spot where his front a rear plate meet
If I remember my Strategikon correctly, the Roman cataphracts (and other especially well-equipped soldiers) used a mail aventail that could be raised over the face before battle, with a steel collar reinforcing the throat (adapted from Avar practice, like much of the kit of the late antique and early medieval cataphract).
So it's obviously different from a gorget, but isn't it possible to thrust through mail? And wouldn't the force alone of a direct strike to the throat break your windpipe? (Edit) I know armor obviously provides a lot of protection, but the neck just seems very vulnerable to brute force, which is why I'm confused as to the effectiveness of a mail collar. Perhaps the user is a competent fighter and makes it difficult for his opponent to land a thrust, but even a well placed cut could break someone's neck. I love history, and If anyone has any insight I would really appreciate it
The thing that went through my mind, is any blow to the throat can kill if it causes the Adam's apple to swell. Chain stops cuts and piercing damage reasonably well but does little against for example a light military pick(or hammer) to the throat in terms of impact damage. I would have thought that some sort of plate armour would be far more effective at protecting from impact damage. However I am under the impression some knights were more interested in how something looked than it's protective value.
if you asked me to pick between mail and plate to protect any given area I'd always go with plate first and switch to mail only when/if using plate causes problems
I think they would use linen hems. My personal rationale for it is that in combat you'd sweat a lot and after different cycles of wetting and drying out the leather would become more stiff and likely to tear apart here and there and so would be very uncomfortable to wear. Also leather tends to come in with time so even though it won't be enough to choke you, it would change the shape of the edge and result in even more discomfort.
Interesting how the throat protection on the breastplate is the same as it was on world war 2 tanks. Something to catch and deflect incomming rounds so that hey don't het into the turret ring or the drivers position.
this is helpful I was in re-enactment the other day and the new guy strikes up with his spear and the side of the spear almost hit my neck I have a condition called webbed neck so I have more neck that the average person anyone else and it would have cleared them but it nicked the side of my neck if it wasn't for the extra skin on my neck, my coif and my great helm it would have been serious but have been considering on getting more neck protection I've been doing re-enactment for coming up to 2 years now and that was the first time I was shook I'm a black belt dan 2 in freestyle martial arts so I'm used to being punched or being in combat but neck protecting is more important to me then ever and this has helped me thx now it's saving and buying I've just focused on my clothing lately good a really comfy wool hood and new equipment but I think I'll get some more armour I have a hauberk and a brigandine what i wear together so my torso is protected
Well the Gallowglass only used maille for their throat protection so I'm going with that. I'm looking for a good standard / pissan to go with my kit and with my helm which is based of the Lough Henney Helm (which is my profile pic). I may just make my own by buying the rivetting rings from Kult of Athena but its more of the time that is the issue.
On the same subject. The US Marines used to have a leather collar to protect their neck as part of their uniform. This is where the nickname "leatherneck" came from. Also b/c the collar made it look like their head were screwed on the nickname "jar head".
~8:23 "You have a mail shirt that's longer, that's why it's called a hauberk" Is there some etymological reference we're supposed to get here? He says it so matter-of-factly like "that's why it's called a hauberk, duh" but I have no idea why calling a long shirt a hauberk is supposed to seem obvious.
The word hauberk is derived from the German / Old Frankish word Halsberge / halsberg. Originally described a small piece of mail that protects ("bergen", literally "to give protection, to save, to rescue") the throat and the neck (the "Hals"). A hauberk is thus originally a "throat/neck protector".
Interesting! I was wondering, wouldn't a hit to a steel helmet be loud as hell for the wearer? Especially those that cover the ears, and it seems that medieval helmets are 100% metal with no insulating layers underneath...
My personal favorite is a German/Gothic style sallet with bevor. I've always liked the way they look, even if there are better helmet designs out there.
Back in the 18th and 19th centuries some militaries made their troops where leather collars or stocks. While they did provide some protection I think the main reason was to keep soldiers heads up.
The US Marines are called Leathernecks because the uniform blouse (coat) has a leather collar that was there as neck protection from saber cuts. The collar has shrunk over the years, but it is still cloth covered leather.
Here is a video idea, can you talk about your personal set of armor you would bring to battle, if you could any combination of pieces from all the periods armor has been used against medieval style weapons. Also, can you talk about how your personal set with the focus on protection, would compare to fictional armor in movies, and whether, if you had infinite endurance and strength, how then would you design your own set of armor
there HAS to be a paded cloth garment for the neck, underneath the throat mail protector, or its basically useless, you can get a spike right through those holes, without dealing with the the rings themselves, and any impact would be felt directly on the windpipe or neck. it also doesnt look right, much like how aventails that oldschool reenactors used to wear didnt look like the ones in the artwork. it doesnt have that volume.
My comment on that leather frilly thing. I've studied a little bit on the similarities between untrained children drawing, and medieval drawings. In my opinion that artwork is trying to depict quilted padded armour on the inside of the mail, not a decorated edging (though some sort of edging was probably there too)
im pretty sure i tried a iron shoulder mail piece at a renaissance fair as a kid, maybe it was a neck piece i was skinny, thing weighed probably 25 pounds.
In most cases I would go for mail. I like to wear my armor a lot (in light configuration). I simply love the feeling, I love the looks, if I would want to mix it up with throat protection, I would go for mail. Even for training sessions I would go for mail. I have a relatively big motorcycle but I still have very limited space, so mail is my main pick. Though for a tournament or battle, I would go for plate, unless I would have no other choice.
About armor and different time periods: the modern army is using 70 year old B52 bombers.The German army is partly using 60 year old MG3s. Etc. Im certain that back then there was a century old equipment still floating around in active use, maintained or repurposed.
Is the barbute supposed to be that tight fitting? I mean his chin sticks out from underneath the helm. If I'd wear one I'd like a bit more space in there for padding around the head...but that might just be me.
Interestingly the upgraded Cat School armor (which I believe is supposed to be a brigandine) in the Witcher 3 includes a mail collar. Looks a lot better than the biker style witcher armors
Alius magnus opus care magister! I think the leather part is made by mountain goats or buffalo leather, what was the best useable material on the 17. century buff coats of the thirty years war or English civil war for example. Another alternatives maybe the sail canvas what was a fkexible and durable product on ships for centuries.
Hi Metatron thanks for sharing! I think it would be even better if you can also explain why it is called standard, or what is the connection between the meaning of today's "standard" and the old days.
Did you say that you should be getting your knights armor in February? That's AWESOME! I can't wait to see it! I hope someday to get my own suit of armor but I have to make enough book sells first before I can afford it.
I dont know if you will get the chance but a brigandine style collar seems cool. Similar to the types you see in the chinese and mongolian style brigandines
Interresting as always, I really like plate armour but yes the mobility could be a factor. I have seen some sort of mail collar in Witcher 3 on the Cat-School Armour. Would be interresting to see how accurate the Armour-Sets in Witcher 3 are.
I know the dating is somewhat questionable.. But the mail of Wenceslaus I of Bohemia, from (potentially) the early 900s had a similar collar century and a half before norman conquest of Britain. Thoughts?
Even if you had access to plated neck protection, during light skirmishing actions etc a knight might choose a maile standard instead. Most of warfare is not combat, and most of combat is not a field battle with two armies going at it head to head, therefore you do see knights trading off protection for comfort, mobility and situational awareness.
9:30 Metatron: "It provides a lot of mobility for your head..."
also Metatron *moves his whole body left and right to demonstrate the mobility of the head*
well he isn't entirely wrong, his head was moving with his body :D
@@maszkalman3676 yep first he moved his head and then his entire body followed :D
I thought exactly the same thing
Proves his head is attached to his body. That's why he's so smart.
Only thing I really knew about those throat protector turtlenecks is that they are dapper as hell in Kingdom Come Deliverance
The thumbnail looks like those ads for indie rpg games you see in facebook, where the character levels up.
The helmet and the breastplate are a possible historical configuration. Just because something was old didn´t mean it wasn´t used anymore, it could be your great grandfathers or someting like that.
Shouldn´t be there any padding under the barbute?
Maybe
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Well if you were not "well off" than you would choose old armour pieces. Be it from your family or somewhere else. There was also a huge market for old and used arms and armor. Why waste good armour because it is old?
@@18Krieger Because your mates always tease you for wearing your ganddaddy's armour, of course.
... you saw that prodigious mass of hair on his head, yes? ;-)
Might you be able to do a video showing the inside of your armor? For example how separate plates are attached and such?
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Take notes, girls! THIS is how you attract the mail gaze!
Punny, yes, but I'll give you a pass for originality.
I'm here so early that Istanbul is still Constantinople
To be honest Istanbul wasn't called Istanbul officially until the Republic period , so it's officially been Istanbul for like just 100 years give or take.
It ain't that in the past in the grand scheme of things.
I was here when Rome was still the capital of the Roman Kingdom
Too soon.
This remembers me Assassin's Creed Revelations
Im so early Hagia Sofia is still a Church
It would be awesome if you made a video on the armour of the Teutonic Knights. There are so many fantasy elements in modern representations of them; it would be nice to have an accurate source of information on them.
One of the best historical channels on youtube!! also i watch it for practice my english. Greetings from Andalucía, Spain!
I'm waiting for that exact piece of maille!
I like the content of your channel and the way you backup with known records, great work you do.
Metatron: "You can only use a frogmouth in a joust"
Judge Bergan: "Challenge accepted."
See www.pinterest.se/aboerbront/frogmouth-helm-used-on-foot/
@@SuperFunkmachine The frogmouth Metatron is referring to is the one that is attached to your breast plate if you look closely around 60-70% of the examples seem to be frogmouth style visors attached to normal helmets separated from the breast plate. On the rest you either can't tell because of lack of detail or there's something in the way. Though some are definitely the big frogmouths they look to be mostly scenes depicting duels not battlefields. Not saying it was never done but probably mostly some having throat sliced phobic people wore them to battle.
@@boku5192 The fixed to the breast plate style is rare but the Great Bascinet's with plate that stops on the shoulder and locks there under impact is quite common.
See The Palazzo Ducale Bascinet th-cam.com/video/mSjmxMfEtvE/w-d-xo.html
I am not shure what you mean. I thought that with your response you wanted to prove the og. comment that jousting frogmouths sk.pinterest.com/pin/569564684117077277/ were readily used outside of jousting
The video you shared (btw thanks it's interesting) is about a different type of helmet. The great basinet which is not atached to armor. Also the one in the video is the only exemplar this big while others from this fammily have plates more modest.
From what i understand fixed frogmouth is quite common tournament helmet which has little use on foot because you're useles if you can't move your head. I agree that on few of shared pics are depicting the outside of jousting use of jousting frogmouth i , og and (i assume) Metatron talked about.
But as i said the context of those seem to be duels not battles. On the rest of them are depicted Great Bascinet's with frogmouth visor/faceplate(not shure if it's a correct term) and normal Bascinets with frogmouth visor.
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Well... about that... I know some of the female Ukraine BON fighters. Quite beautiful, and badass as hell.
@@PalleRasmussen wrong comment?
@@arikborisov8131 no look at the original comment.
@@PalleRasmussen what's BON? Maybe if I knew I would see it because I still don't see it
Hello metatron!!! I love your content! Thanks!
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The best part about the barbute helmet is how it looks like the coolest helm of all time the corinthian helmet.
Check out 700 BC Corinthian helmet. It's the exact same design except the Corinthian ones are obviously bronze
You're one of my favourite people, Metatron. So genuine, sincere and authentic in your love of history, education, truth, and entertainment!
Your videos always keep me engaged and i always feel assured that you're looking after everyone's best interests with your influence and platform
This realisation has also made me a Patreon
Loving the blue palette you are using on the thumbnails. Also, glad to see you are getting closer and closer to the full set of armour and clothing you've been aiming to for quite some time now.
Great video, as always. Keep it up!!
I'm loving these new thumbnails
Nice video again. I never really putted much thought to those little ridges on the plate armor. It's nice to know they actually served a very specific purpose of catching the blade.
Ho sempre trovato la gorgiera, uno splendido pezzo d'equipaggiamento!
The thought of metatron gives me the image of a noble knight in shining Armour
As I started the video I was thinking how I missed some of those funny intros when you would pose overdramatically in your older videos. Thankfully this video delivered on that front later on :D
Always nice to see proper mail. Can't wait for your armour!
interesting thank you Metatron. i have a Tod Cutler Quillon Dagger that would go through the one you were wearing but the one that you were holding looked like it would stop it. they both looked beautifully made, you are very fortunate to have them, it looked appropriately great.
Really awesome looking thumbnail mate
You and shad have been killing it recently I hope you can come back full time someday :)
Hello Metatron. Could you analyse "Caesars legion" from Fallout: New Vegas and sort of rate how roman they are?
Quick Summary: The world got destroyed through nuclear war, the suvivers struggle living in the wasteland. On man that calls himself Caesar now, trys to rebuild a society based on the romans. He counquered 86 different tribes, unifiyng them. The legion gets generally portrayed as bad guys, mostly because of their slavery, violence, executions and zero tolerance to anyone not sharing their ideals.
Also if the roman empire would have used similiar tactics, in regard of the advanced technology. For example: The legion is known to booby trap places they raided with mines. Legion recruits use mostly melee weapons, higher ranks often ballistic guns and the praetorian guard uses ballistic fists, basically a super advanced mechanical gauntlet that also shoots shotgun ammuniton.
This is a larger project because there is so much lore, ecpecially if you are unfamiliar with Fallout: New Vegas. But it would be very intresting to see how accurate Caesar build his society.
Please @Metatron do a legion review, that would be sick
Not very much, but that is the point; they had little to go at in their imitation, most books being consumed in nuclear fire.
@@SimuLord money took over Bethesda. Most obviously with FO76.
@@SimuLord I cannot say, I started with FO4. The MP and microtransactions was exactly the same time as money took over though.
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For my 1388 kit that U use for harnessfechten and reenactment, I wear a Corazzina with a maille standard as well as a hounskull bascinet. The aventail of the bascinet doesn't do anything to stop a blade from beneath, and the corazzina doesn't have the stoprib like the steel cuirass does.
That I* use
Metatron: apologises for a slight anachronism between helm and breastplate.
Hollywood: what about a fully armoured knight with a machine gun? Who would notice?
That would actually be a pretty good idea for a show. The idea of medieval people discovering paratime travel _and exploiting it_ is such an untapped idea in fiction these days.
I can see the opening shot now.
_A 12th century English baron strides into the great hall of his castle. He's just come back from a gun show, gun nestled in one shoulder and two bags slung over the other. One's filled with enough bullets to shoot everyone in the castle and the surrounding village ten times over. After setting that one down, he walks into his bedchamber, where he takes his Medieval-to-Modern English dictionary out of the remaining bag and sets it gingerly back into his bookshelf._
_This haul is much like many he's made over the past, and he'll certainly be making a few more such trips in the weeks before he and his retinue muster at London, where they will join the dozens of other barons waiting to ship out to Aquitaine, where king Richard and his Crusading army await them._
_With any luck, every baron would be able to field a full gun battalion. In fact, rumor had it king Richard had bought enough machine guns for a full chariot company._
See, the possibilities are endless!
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8:55 to be honest i never understood why they used coifs for so much time, its not like they didn't had helmets...maybe just for the side of the head, but they used mail all the way up to their heads.
Venatori helmet where it's at, for full face and neck protecton.
I have a question and that is on your video about the fight scene in Barbarians and your conclusion and I was wondering if you took into consideration the barbarian was using a mall a heavy splitting axe and that he hit armenius in a spot where his front a rear plate meet
If I remember my Strategikon correctly, the Roman cataphracts (and other especially well-equipped soldiers) used a mail aventail that could be raised over the face before battle, with a steel collar reinforcing the throat (adapted from Avar practice, like much of the kit of the late antique and early medieval cataphract).
So it's obviously different from a gorget, but isn't it possible to thrust through mail? And wouldn't the force alone of a direct strike to the throat break your windpipe?
(Edit) I know armor obviously provides a lot of protection, but the neck just seems very vulnerable to brute force, which is why I'm confused as to the effectiveness of a mail collar. Perhaps the user is a competent fighter and makes it difficult for his opponent to land a thrust, but even a well placed cut could break someone's neck. I love history, and If anyone has any insight I would really appreciate it
Shit happens. There is nothing like a perfect protection. Armors are always a compromise between protection, weight, comfort and mobility.
Thank you guys! I really appreciate it :)
The thing that went through my mind, is any blow to the throat can kill if it causes the Adam's apple to swell. Chain stops cuts and piercing damage reasonably well but does little against for example a light military pick(or hammer) to the throat in terms of impact damage. I would have thought that some sort of plate armour would be far more effective at protecting from impact damage. However I am under the impression some knights were more interested in how something looked than it's protective value.
Breast plates and throat armor looks extremely helpful for neck safety. A lot of medieval guys seemed to try and attack your throat.
if you asked me to pick between mail and plate to protect any given area I'd always go with plate first and switch to mail only when/if using plate causes problems
I think they would use linen hems.
My personal rationale for it is that in combat you'd sweat a lot and after different cycles of wetting and drying out the leather would become more stiff and likely to tear apart here and there and so would be very uncomfortable to wear. Also leather tends to come in with time so even though it won't be enough to choke you, it would change the shape of the edge and result in even more discomfort.
Alternate title: Alpha Italian man showing off his neck and chiseled chin
Nothing beats trying it out yourself!
Interesting how the throat protection on the breastplate is the same as it was on world war 2 tanks. Something to catch and deflect incomming rounds so that hey don't het into the turret ring or the drivers position.
this is helpful I was in re-enactment the other day and the new guy strikes up with his spear and the side of the spear almost hit my neck I have a condition called webbed neck so I have more neck that the average person anyone else and it would have cleared them but it nicked the side of my neck if it wasn't for the extra skin on my neck, my coif and my great helm it would have been serious but have been considering on getting more neck protection I've been doing re-enactment for coming up to 2 years now and that was the first time I was shook I'm a black belt dan 2 in freestyle martial arts so I'm used to being punched or being in combat but neck protecting is more important to me then ever and this has helped me thx now it's saving and buying I've just focused on my clothing lately good a really comfy wool hood and new equipment but I think I'll get some more armour I have a hauberk and a brigandine what i wear together so my torso is protected
I like your new Intro!!
Well the Gallowglass only used maille for their throat protection so I'm going with that. I'm looking for a good standard / pissan to go with my kit and with my helm which is based of the Lough Henney Helm (which is my profile pic). I may just make my own by buying the rivetting rings from Kult of Athena but its more of the time that is the issue.
On the same subject. The US Marines used to have a leather collar to protect their neck as part of their uniform. This is where the nickname "leatherneck" came from. Also b/c the collar made it look like their head were screwed on the nickname "jar head".
I wonder how did romans handle the throat protection gladiators by the helmet, seem to have had it.
~8:23 "You have a mail shirt that's longer, that's why it's called a hauberk" Is there some etymological reference we're supposed to get here? He says it so matter-of-factly like "that's why it's called a hauberk, duh" but I have no idea why calling a long shirt a hauberk is supposed to seem obvious.
The word hauberk is derived from the German / Old Frankish word Halsberge / halsberg. Originally described a small piece of mail that protects ("bergen", literally "to give protection, to save, to rescue") the throat and the neck (the "Hals").
A hauberk is thus originally a "throat/neck protector".
I wonder if they put grease or lots of oil on their plate armor, to make it more slippery. For weapon hits to glance off.
This is how it starts, OOTD videos, then an Only Fans, then Twitch pool streams, showing how you can swim in samurai armor...
11:38 Now that’s a look I approve of.
Interesting I always wondered what that bit in the upper middle of the plate was for.
Interesting! I was wondering, wouldn't a hit to a steel helmet be loud as hell for the wearer? Especially those that cover the ears, and it seems that medieval helmets are 100% metal with no insulating layers underneath...
My personal favorite is a German/Gothic style sallet with bevor. I've always liked the way they look, even if there are better helmet designs out there.
The 1 dislike is from some non noble fellow who got stabbed in the throat and is just now seeing this video! 😂
Isn't something similar to this the origin of the term "leatherneck?"
BTW this is prime vampire hunter material.
Back in the 18th and 19th centuries some militaries made their troops where leather collars or stocks. While they did provide some protection I think the main reason was to keep soldiers heads up.
The US Marines are called Leathernecks because the uniform blouse (coat) has a leather collar that was there as neck protection from saber cuts. The collar has shrunk over the years, but it is still cloth covered leather.
The British Bobby’s also wore a stiff leather collar back in the day to prevent garrotting and possibly other attacks to the throat
Was there not anyone who thought to wear a maille hood under a barbute? Is there a reason why you wouldn't? (Wear something under a barbute).
nice vid,as always
Anyone know where to get a legitimate arming doublet with proper chain mail at the armpit and elbow joints?
Thanks for this one. I'm going to have to make one of these for myself.
Girls turtle neck: *fluffy, soft, colorful*
Boys Turtle neck:
Can you hear with that Itallian Barbuet?
I'm a big fan of the bevor(plate) for throat protection.
Your thumbnails are great
Here is a video idea, can you talk about your personal set of armor you would bring to battle, if you could any combination of pieces from all the periods armor has been used against medieval style weapons. Also, can you talk about how your personal set with the focus on protection, would compare to fictional armor in movies, and whether, if you had infinite endurance and strength, how then would you design your own set of armor
Plate gorgets are my favourite.
Mail certainly feels more comfy.
there HAS to be a paded cloth garment for the neck, underneath the throat mail protector, or its basically useless, you can get a spike right through those holes, without dealing with the the rings themselves, and any impact would be felt directly on the windpipe or neck.
it also doesnt look right, much like how aventails that oldschool reenactors used to wear didnt look like the ones in the artwork. it doesnt have that volume.
Hey can you make a video where it shows how long a knight can get ready for battle? (Such as how long it take to wear the armor and others)
My comment on that leather frilly thing. I've studied a little bit on the similarities between untrained children drawing, and medieval drawings. In my opinion that artwork is trying to depict quilted padded armour on the inside of the mail, not a decorated edging (though some sort of edging was probably there too)
im pretty sure i tried a iron shoulder mail piece at a renaissance fair as a kid, maybe it was a neck piece i was skinny, thing weighed probably 25 pounds.
In most cases I would go for mail. I like to wear my armor a lot (in light configuration). I simply love the feeling, I love the looks, if I would want to mix it up with throat protection, I would go for mail. Even for training sessions I would go for mail. I have a relatively big motorcycle but I still have very limited space, so mail is my main pick. Though for a tournament or battle, I would go for plate, unless I would have no other choice.
About armor and different time periods: the modern army is using 70 year old B52 bombers.The German army is partly using 60 year old MG3s. Etc. Im certain that back then there was a century old equipment still floating around in active use, maintained or repurposed.
Why no description? Id love to see where to buy one of these
You are starting to look like the "Knight of Hope"....good,very good...
no padded coif under the helmet?
Cool
If you could assemble your own Frankenstein armor in the 14th century, using armor designs from any other period, what would it look like?
Metatron proves he's italian by holding one-man fashion show.
Protection.......is YES!
Wow I just woke up, right on time!
Is the barbute supposed to be that tight fitting? I mean his chin sticks out from underneath the helm. If I'd wear one I'd like a bit more space in there for padding around the head...but that might just be me.
Yesss more medieval vids :D
Interestingly the upgraded Cat School armor (which I believe is supposed to be a brigandine) in the Witcher 3 includes a mail collar. Looks a lot better than the biker style witcher armors
Groovy. :-)
Alius magnus opus care magister!
I think the leather part is made by mountain goats or buffalo leather, what was the best useable material on the 17. century buff coats of the thirty years war or English civil war for example.
Another alternatives maybe the sail canvas what was a fkexible and durable product on ships for centuries.
Hi Metatron thanks for sharing!
I think it would be even better if you can also explain why it is called standard, or what is the connection between the meaning of today's "standard" and the old days.
Could the mail standard been used by ca. 1280 and 1307 AD
Did you say that you should be getting your knights armor in February? That's AWESOME! I can't wait to see it! I hope someday to get my own suit of armor but I have to make enough book sells first before I can afford it.
I dont know if you will get the chance but a brigandine style collar seems cool. Similar to the types you see in the chinese and mongolian style brigandines
Interresting as always, I really like plate armour but yes the mobility could be a factor. I have seen some sort of mail collar in Witcher 3 on the Cat-School Armour. Would be interresting to see how accurate the Armour-Sets in Witcher 3 are.
Could I buy a modern built replica in fully welded, and galvanized mail? Or even in titanium?
Just me or does metatrons chin become manlier per armor upgrade?
I want a video on the Top 5 ways to stop a Cavalry
I know the dating is somewhat questionable.. But the mail of Wenceslaus I of Bohemia, from (potentially) the early 900s had a similar collar century and a half before norman conquest of Britain. Thoughts?
The orange detail looks kinda good with the blue shirt.
Why an armet and not a close helm?
Even if you had access to plated neck protection, during light skirmishing actions etc a knight might choose a maile standard instead. Most of warfare is not combat, and most of combat is not a field battle with two armies going at it head to head, therefore you do see knights trading off protection for comfort, mobility and situational awareness.