I'm a real alcoholic and it works if you work it. If you don't nothing happens. No one should have told you that "everything will work out for you" because they can't know that.
Sadly, at 2:04 your credibility took a severe hit. "All these oldtimers were telling me I was a piece of shit". I got sober around a bunch of "cranky" auto workers in Lansing, Michigan, and not a one of them ever said anything like that to me, or anyone else. So, your first story doesn't even fly. But, for the sake of discussion let's say you DID hear that in a meeting. How many times did you say something you wish you hadn't? Or screwed somebody over for drugs, or cheated on your girlfriend, or lied to your parents, coaches, employers, friends, etc? I'm guessing you didn't get to AA on a high note or because you were bored. Not everyone in AA is healthy, which is no different than government, education, healthcare, military, business, religion, law enforcement, financial institutions, sports, etc, etc. How small do you have to be to actually post a video, highlighting a big fat resentment?
That’s so awesome! I knew a lot of people who got amazing relief and made amazing connections with alanon. I hope it’s helping, at the end of the day I just want people to feel happy and whatever program or lifestyle provides that is beautiful
Your entitled your you opinion and your research. I have tried many ways of getting sober. 10 yrs ago after 3 yrs sober, someone left a glass of wine at my home.. I knew it was there. Finally I drank it,sent me right to the store to get more.. 3 yrs sober bang,I was out of AA for 10 yrs,I had heard that before in aa.. that was never gonna happen to me,the Not Yets! Ended up in ER. Pancretittis.. that was my bottom. Again.. I lost/gave away so much h,too much! Easier softer way is going back to AA.. 18 days sober.. I wish you the best of luck.. 😊
I desperately needed to hear that. I have been haunted by shame the outdated AA has made it worse for me. That is just my experience. This helped me in many other way as well but I do thank you it was an a torn place.
I hear you. I could only get sober once I left the preying eyes of AA. For me the greatest danger is in the whole 'sponsorship' arrangement, insofar as you give your possibly unscrupulous sponsor total control over your life. Btw, one of my sponsors stopped taking his psyche-meds. Within a few months, he committed suicide. So much for AA wisdom.
So sorry to hear that, I was also told to get off mine multiple times by people who def weren’t doctors. In my opinion the most challenging part of AA is when you enter the program. You don’t know who’s spiritually sick and who isn’t because everyone sounds the same given they all quote the book. So you have to be extremely careful who you pick to sponsor you. And never forget, that sponsor is just a person like you trying to get through life, they’re not god.
I quit drinking. Weed is legal here in Canada to buy at stores, so I figured I would do that because at least it isnt whiskey. All that did was make me extra paranoid about drinking, so now I do neither. Smoking some green is certainly not nearly as destructive as alcohol though.
Yep it’s for sure healthier but everyone is different and weed is not for everyone that’s for sure. Man that’s awesome self awareness monitoring how things are affecting your psychie. Awareness is crucial for long term sobriety, as you know. So glad to hear you don’t drink! Life so much better without. Right on thanks for sharing! 🍁
I know ppl who are sm9k8ng all day long. The lung damage, spending all their discretionary money. Hanging w folks who smoke. You are more likely to meet heavy users amongst folks qjo already do dope than folks who do no drug.
@@VibeWithTrevor I'm 3+ yrs no drink, but what some AAers would call "California Sober" I eat homegrown weed, it helps me have deep sleep, good for playing guitar, yoga, stretching, etc. but i made a deal with myself that if using weed made me steered me toward drink, then I would give up the weed becuz I just don't want any alcohol in my life! everyone's different, foe some people, the weed bone is connected to the drink bone, I don't do pain killers, sedatives, benzos, coke ,speed, etc. becuz for me, from experience, it would tend to lead me back to alcohol & I cannot afford to flush life down that drain..
I’ve never ran into that mean spiritedness and sorry you did. Also the opposition to psyche meds is not anything I experienced. I think your emphasis on the worth of certain Steps is accurate. One great AA speaker Mark H mentions Tolle and a specific path I think you’d appreciate. Side note- Bill W was an advocate for LSD as a therapeutic
Around 7 min. I would rather be dependent on AA than the dealers. Ya, I never want to forget being desperate n afraid of dying, homeless, addicted. It's a way to be social w folks who don't want to drink n drug.
I desperately needed to hear that. I have been haunted by shame the outdated AA has made it worse for me. That is just my experience. This helped me in many other way as well but I do thank you it was an a torn place.
I'm a real alcoholic and it works if you work it. If you don't nothing happens. No one should have told you that "everything will work out for you" because they can't know that.
Very true thanks for sharing!! 🙌
I am a cranky old timer in AA. And I appreciate your candor and think you are doing well.
Hey, I love me some cranky old timers!
24 years sober and I agree with the”cranky old timer.”
Sadly, at 2:04 your credibility took a severe hit. "All these oldtimers were telling me I was a piece of shit". I got sober around a bunch of "cranky" auto workers in Lansing, Michigan, and not a one of them ever said anything like that to me, or anyone else. So, your first story doesn't even fly. But, for the sake of discussion let's say you DID hear that in a meeting. How many times did you say something you wish you hadn't? Or screwed somebody over for drugs, or cheated on your girlfriend, or lied to your parents, coaches, employers, friends, etc? I'm guessing you didn't get to AA on a high note or because you were bored. Not everyone in AA is healthy, which is no different than government, education, healthcare, military, business, religion, law enforcement, financial institutions, sports, etc, etc. How small do you have to be to actually post a video, highlighting a big fat resentment?
🙌 🙏 thanks for sharing!
@Mark-pp7jy totally see your point of view, thank you for sharing!
I appreciate you. I started Alnon which is based on AA. I picked up on everything you’re saying. You are really helping many.
That’s so awesome! I knew a lot of people who got amazing relief and made amazing connections with alanon. I hope it’s helping, at the end of the day I just want people to feel happy and whatever program or lifestyle provides that is beautiful
Your entitled your you opinion and your research.
I have tried many ways of getting sober. 10 yrs ago after 3 yrs sober, someone left a glass of wine at my home.. I knew it was there. Finally I drank it,sent me right to the store to get more.. 3 yrs sober bang,I was out of AA for 10 yrs,I had heard that before in aa.. that was never gonna happen to me,the Not Yets!
Ended up in ER. Pancretittis.. that was my bottom. Again.. I lost/gave away so much h,too much!
Easier softer way is going back to AA.. 18 days sober.. I wish you the best of luck.. 😊
Remembering this is a disease.. it does kill.
I'd rather be drunk,than dry. It's such a struggle without help for this is the easier softer way!
Man I’m glad to hear your back and everything is ok. Sorry that happened you got this thank you so much for sharing 🙏 🙌
Thats awesome it’s working for you my man happy to hear that thanks for sharing!
Meetings & no Step work is just coffee & bullsh*t 😀 God speed 🙏
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I desperately needed to hear that. I have been haunted by shame the outdated AA has made it worse for me. That is just my experience. This helped me in many other way as well but I do thank you it was an a torn place.
Thank you!
Thank you for speaking out so honestly
appreciate that!
A lot of folks stop. My dad did. He died sober. I learned a lot in recovery . Mainly 2 ppl.
Thanks 🙏🏿 for sharing your experience ❤
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Good luck bud, god bless.
Thanks man appreciate that 🤙
I hear you. I could only get sober once I left the preying eyes of AA. For me the greatest danger is in the whole 'sponsorship' arrangement, insofar as you give your possibly unscrupulous sponsor total control over your life. Btw, one of my sponsors stopped taking his psyche-meds. Within a few months, he committed suicide. So much for AA wisdom.
So sorry to hear that, I was also told to get off mine multiple times by people who def weren’t doctors. In my opinion the most challenging part of AA is when you enter the program. You don’t know who’s spiritually sick and who isn’t because everyone sounds the same given they all quote the book. So you have to be extremely careful who you pick to sponsor you. And never forget, that sponsor is just a person like you trying to get through life, they’re not god.
@VibeWithTrevor I have read this on line groups etc.
Yet I have never heard of it around here.
That’s a good thing!
The mean people thing I never ever experienced it
Love that thanks for sharing
I quit drinking. Weed is legal here in Canada to buy at stores, so I figured I would do that because at least it isnt whiskey. All that did was make me extra paranoid about drinking, so now I do neither. Smoking some green is certainly not nearly as destructive as alcohol though.
Yep it’s for sure healthier but everyone is different and weed is not for everyone that’s for sure. Man that’s awesome self awareness monitoring how things are affecting your psychie. Awareness is crucial for long term sobriety, as you know. So glad to hear you don’t drink! Life so much better without. Right on thanks for sharing! 🍁
I know ppl who are sm9k8ng all day long. The lung damage, spending all their discretionary money. Hanging w folks who smoke. You are more likely to meet heavy users amongst folks qjo already do dope than folks who do no drug.
That’s def true, gotta be super careful who uou surround yourself with
@@VibeWithTrevor
I'm 3+ yrs no drink, but what some AAers would call "California Sober"
I eat homegrown weed, it helps me have deep sleep, good for playing guitar, yoga, stretching, etc.
but i made a deal with myself that if using weed made me steered me toward drink, then I would give up the weed becuz I just don't want any alcohol in my life!
everyone's different, foe some people, the weed bone is connected to the drink bone,
I don't do pain killers, sedatives, benzos, coke ,speed, etc. becuz for me, from experience, it would tend to lead me back to alcohol & I cannot afford to flush life down that drain..
Right there with ya thanks for sharing! 🙌
To each his own.
Good luck man😳🫶🏽
Thanks man appreciate you
Thank you❤
Hey thank you!!
Staying is to help the newcomer n encourage the old timer.
Love this, beautiful 🙏
I’ve never ran into that mean spiritedness and sorry you did. Also the opposition to psyche meds is not anything I experienced. I think your emphasis on the worth of certain Steps is accurate.
One great AA speaker Mark H mentions Tolle and a specific path I think you’d appreciate.
Side note- Bill W was an advocate for LSD as a therapeutic
That’s awesome thanks for the suggestion! 🙌 🙏
How can you be sober when your still going to a dealer....
I recorded this months ago so I can’t remember what part you’re referring to my bad
Around 7 min. I would rather be dependent on AA than the dealers. Ya, I never want to forget being desperate n afraid of dying, homeless, addicted.
It's a way to be social w folks who don't want to drink n drug.
yep, AA meetings beat drinking and drugging thats for sure! And you can find amazing community in AA, thanks for sharing
I desperately needed to hear that. I have been haunted by shame the outdated AA has made it worse for me. That is just my experience. This helped me in many other way as well but I do thank you it was an a torn place.
Thats all we can do is share our experience