Muslim Tires To Defend Quran Preservation
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I love that lady she’s very intelligent and hilarious😂😂😂
Nothing better than a ‘half-brained’ calmly dismantling their double speak
Me too, love her.
Not just you two.. a few million more love her
She is interrupting too much and too aggressively.
That's so annoying!!!
@@chimenemagnikouwe7582 Well…respectfully either you’re a Muslim, OR you don’t have a lot of experience interacting with them. Massive pressure on them to lie and obfuscate the truth on subjects like this and then they pull in people who are treated like trash, especially women. Watch a few videos of her on their channel where she calmly articulates what Islam does to people. If it’s horrific and almost every Muslim lies to get you in maybe holding the line very firmly is ok to do? Something to think about.
SHE IS NOT ALLOWING ANY CLAIM GO AWAY WITHOUT PROOF.
INTELLIGENT LADY. TOO GOD.
GODLADY
“tHe QuArAn HaSnT bEeN cHaNgEd”
“ iTs ThE sAmE mEaNiNg”
DURRRRRRRRRRR
What a Lioness she is!
Christians, we cant add nor takeaway. Muslims can say any flipping thing about their book.
And they do
They can even disregard it completely and make up their own Islam.
We call this hIslam
I have never heard a more truer statement “the miracle of Christianity is that Jesus was risen 🙏❤️ the miracle of the Quran is that only Mohammed understands it lol” 😂🤷🏽♀️ 🐸 🍵
😂🙏
Insanity.
Imagine following a man calling himself prophet of God. While thinking he was po-sess-ed. being bewitched with magic, groaning like a camel and while getting "revelations". Dying by poisoning even though his "god" promised that can't happen. Not being sure about where his followers are going after death. Saying that Al-lah could have decieved him aslo.
INSANITY!!!
The miracle of Islam is that people believed Muhammad.
@@charlesmuhmanson3928 🤣
That's a great one.
But to be real, he ordered execution on people who questioned him.
@@FastestSpeakerscorner But enough blind followers had to believe before he could get to that point.
It was really Abu Bakr who created Islam. If he hadn't raided that caravan and brought back loot, Muhammad never would have attracted all the thieves and land pirates he needed for his new religion.
@charlesmuhmanson3928 you are well read up on this subject brother! Great to see!
And you hit the nail on the head!
So now let's get to the core of the matter then.
It's savages, that now can, rob, steal, take slaves, commit rapery, unaliving people, polygamy, lie and decieve. All in "God's name. And after all this. You get 72 virgins from hell with an eternal erect male part.
What ungodly man doesn't jump this?
It's the perfect package for men
" I'm a half brain woman." I'm dead 😂😂😂😂
"Let's move away from this topic." "nooo nooo nooo ooonoooo" 😂😂😂😂😂😂
🤣🤣🤣
Why is it that according to islam that words never mean what words mean. You see and hear this type of diabolical practice when they do dawah.
Q2:140 Hafs - Or do you say.
Q2:140 Warsh - Or do they say.
😂😂😂😂😂🍾
It is hard work to live in lies. Free yourselves MuSLIms
So Islam is doing the pronoun thing??🤣.
Damn as dj Khaled would say “another one”
Champ! 😂
@LebaneseChristian did you see my question or shall I repeat it here?
They cooking. They preheated the food to 375. Doi aint playing 😂
She literally lyd about al-Shinqeeti because he never said it's a "contradiction"! the sentence إشكال متعارض simply means; (conflicting issue) but whatever she wants to call it, al-Shinqeeti himself refuted her nonsense in the same page right in the next line which she kept hidden from you! 😂 he mentioned the scholars explanation and he affirmed it by saying """SO, THE MEANING OF BOTH QIRĀ'ĀT IS LIKE THE SAME THING""
and then al-Shinqiti himself also explained it thoroughly and affirmed it in the next line, and then he said; ""God *EXPLAINED* this story in many verses of his book and made it *CLEAR* ""
So this is why I'm always baffled at how crstians can easily be manipulated and misled by these so-called crstian apologists and polemicists!
@@studentofknowledge3684 I’m praying that you see the truth in Christ ✝️
@@terrencesmith6080 this is what crstians do when they have no counter-argument. They switch to preaching mode! If you are an honest crstian then you would atleast condemn these them for lyng
❤❤❤❤❤❤Much love to DOC!!! She a real one, she didn’t let him slide at ALL! She said don’t play games with me 😂
U guys are like pack of wolf ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ ❤️ u make me high so beautiful Glory to our Ineffable Holy and Righteous God Jesus Christ waw❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
The Quran is a miracle? When a contradiction is not a contradiction at the same time is definitely an Islamic Miracle 😂
it's not a contradiction at all, they literally lyd about al-Shinqeeti because he never said it's a "contradiction"! the sentence إشكال متعارض simply means; (conflicting issue) but whatever they want to call it on this stream, al-Shinqeeti himself refuted their nonsense in the same page right in the next line, he mentioned the scholars explanation and he affirmed it by saying """SO, THE MEANING OF BOTH QIRĀ'ĀT IS AS THE SAME THING""
and then he himself also explained it thoroughly and affirmed it in the following line, and then he said; ""God *EXPLAINED* this story in many verses of his book and made it *CLEAR* ""
So this is why I'm always baffled at how crstians can easily be manipulated and misled by these so-called crstian apologists and polemicists!
Dang DOC doesn’t play! I love her 💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽
This is the best GOD LOGIC LIVE STREAM - bring Arabic speaking people
Except those were making things up
@@studentofknowledge3684 join the live stream and prove it wrong
@@studentofknowledge3684
No they didn’t. For once in your life stop lying for for your god and prophet.
@@sionesione956 Well, let's see who's lying here! I already responded to that on the livechat & also on Twitter few weeks ago, those two Arab xtians lyd about al-Shinqeeti he never said it's a "contradiction" the sentence "إشكال متعارض " simply means; (conflicting issue) and yet whether you want to call it a contradiction or not he literally refuted that misconception im the same page, which these two were hiding from you.
@@studentofknowledge3684 lier as usual
Love this channel....Avery you EXUDE meek and mildness! May Jesus stay blessing you always ❤
This Combo is Lethal
If there is contradiction then the Quran wasn't revealed by God, except its from Allah.
That is a contradictin and god do not make mistake so that is not of god but it is from mohemmed .
God bless everyone listening 🙏🙏🙏
God bless you too 🙏
Ah yes, all the differences are from God, and the contradictions really just have different meanings. Muslims, this is getting silly..
11:32 This muslims whole defense is "it has a deeper meaning" or "it can have a deeper meaning". So bro, this is Islam. To fix all the problems is just say "it has a deeper meaning" . Like dude is being 100% deceitful right off the bat. 🤣🤣🤣
They also say "it's a metaphysical matter". LOL!
@2 18 there are not ten qirat seven ahruf. There are seven or ten or fourteen qirit TODAY depending on what branch of sunni Islam you follow but there were more. The ahruf were centuries before the qirat and in mohammads time. Qitat were centuries later. Ahruf came about because Omar heard a different version being recited and brought the reciter to mohammad who said both were correct and Allah revealed the koran in seven different ways or ahruf to make it easier to remember. But thismis immaterial since uthman reduced the seven ahruf to a single harf to make itmeasier to remember. Apparently uthman knew better than Allah.
Qirat came later as the issue of memorising aarabic korans became apparent. As Islam spread the people learning the koran through the unreliable way of memorisation learned different korans. Even two students of the same teacher differed! Over seventy recitations. So they reduced it tomthe seven most popular. With twomstudents for each one.
Guys I’m a Christian. I understand Muslims are very slippery but at some point you have to let the Muslim guy finish a sentence. Once he finishes a sentence then respond. I say this respectfully brothers and sisters. God bless you all.
DoC is very demeaning to muslims even when they aren’t being combative or disrespectful. I pray she gets better with that
Jai & DoC... i love you guys, but you should really give the guests more time to dig their holes! you already know you have the debate won, so just let them get their shovels and make their case. God bless you, both!
Well with my simple understanding of the Bible I believe the Angels of the Lord told Lot to take his family and leave and don't look back but Lots wife stopped and looked back so she was turned into a pillar of salt and it referred to a Christian turning from there sin and not looking back
GL: So this is a contradiction right?
Muslim: Well yes but actually no.
😂😂😂😂
It's a deeper meaning then that 😅😂
I'm surprised they didn't go for the patented
"HOW CAN AHAZIAH BE 22 AND 42?" as a deflection
She literally lyd about al-Shinqeeti because he never said it's a "contradiction"! the sentence إشكال متعارض simply means; (conflicting issue) but whatever she wants to call it, al-Shinqeeti himself refuted her nonsense in the same page right in the next line! 😂 he mentioned the scholars explanation and he affirmed it by saying """SO, THE MEANING OF BOTH QIRĀ'ĀT IS LIKE THE SAME THING""
and then al-Shinqiti himself also explained it thoroughly and affirmed it in the next line, and then he said; ""God *EXPLAINED* this story in many verses of his book and made it *CLEAR* ""
So this is why I'm always baffled at how crstians can easily be manipulated and misled by these so-called crstian apologists and polemicists!
😂😂😂 stupidity is amazing
Same but different….😂😂
He meant same (in terms of meaning) and different (in terms of details) and these crstians literally lyd about al-Shinqeeti because he never said it's a "contradiction"! the sentence إشكال متعارض simply means; (conflicting issue) but whatever they want to call it, al-Shinqeeti himself refuted their nonsense in the same page right in the next line which they kept hiding from you! 😂 he mentioned the scholars explanation and he affirmed it by saying """SO, THE MEANING OF BOTH QIRĀ'ĀT IS LIKE THE SAME THING""
and then al-Shinqiti himself also explained it thoroughly and affirmed it in the next line, and then he said; ""God *EXPLAINED* this story in many verses of his book and made it *CLEAR* ""
So this is why I'm always baffled at how crstians can easily be manipulated and misled by these so-called crstian apologists and polemicists!
I wonder too
Without lies Islam dies
Nah, that's Christianity!
@@studentofknowledge3684 I guess you believed before this video that your book was preserved.
@@justinemereni689 before, during and after this joke of a video! Lol
How weak you must be to buy what these layman crstians say to you without doing any research yourself? They literally lyd about al-Shinqeeti because he never said it's a "contradiction"! the sentence إشكال متعارض simply means; (conflicting issue) but whatever they want to call it, al-Shinqeeti himself refuted their nonsense in the same page right in the next line 😂 he mentioned the scholars explanation and he affirmed it by saying """SO, THE MEANING OF BOTH QIRĀ'ĀT IS AS THE SAME THING""
and then he himself also explained it thoroughly and affirmed it in the following line, and then he said; ""God *EXPLAINED* this story in many verses of his book and made it *CLEAR* ""
So this is why I'm always baffled at how crstians can easily be manipulated and misled by these so-called crstian apologists and polemicists!
Here's what real Western "Non-muslim" Academics and Scholars of the Qur'an like Marijn Van Putten said about these different qirā'āt;
""it certainly doesn't disprove the claim of preservation. Claiming a lack of preservation on the basis of qirā'āt existing is indeed a non-starter: the same people that argued for preservation are the same people that studied these qirā’āt.""
He also said: """The Quran is incredibly well preserved... word for word letter for letter down to the spelling"""
@@justinemereni689 before, during and after this joke of a video! Lol
How weak you are to buy into what they say to you without doing any research yourself?
They literally lyd about al-Shinqeeti because he never said it's a "contradiction"! the sentence إشكال متعارض simply means; (conflicting issue) but whatever they want to call it, al-Shinqeeti himself refuted their nonsense in the same page right in the next line 😂 he mentioned the scholars explanation and he affirmed it by saying """SO, THE MEANING OF BOTH QIRĀ'ĀT IS AS THE SAME THING""
and then he himself also explained it thoroughly and affirmed it in the following line, and then he said; ""God *EXPLAINED* this story in many verses of his book and made it *CLEAR* ""
So this is why I'm always baffled at how crstians can easily be manipulated and misled by these so-called crstian apologists and polemicists!
Here's what real Western Academics and Scholars of the Qur'an like Marijn Van Putten said about these different qirā'āt;
""it certainly doesn't disprove the claim of preservation. Claiming a lack of preservation on the basis of qirā'āt existing is indeed a non-starter: the same people that argued for preservation are the same people that studied these qirā’āt.""
He also said: """The Quran is incredibly well preserved... word for word letter for letter down to the spelling"""
@@justinemereni689 before, during and after this joke of a video! Lol
How do you buy into what they say to you without doing any research yourself?
They literally lyd about al-Shinqeeti because he never said it's a "contradiction"! the sentence إشكال متعارض simply means; (conflicting issue) but whatever they want to call it, al-Shinqeeti himself refuted their nonsense in the same page right in the next line 😂 he mentioned the scholars explanation and he affirmed it by saying """SO, THE MEANING OF BOTH QIRĀ'ĀT IS AS THE SAME THING""
and then he himself also explained it thoroughly and affirmed it in the following line, and then he said; ""God *EXPLAINED* this story in many verses of his book and made it *CLEAR* ""
So this is why I'm always baffled at how crstians can easily be manipulated and misled by these so-called crstian apologists and polemicists!
Here's what real Western Academics and Scholars of the Qur'an like Marijn Van Putten said about these different qirā'āt;
""it certainly doesn't disprove the claim of preservation. Claiming a lack of preservation on the basis of qirā'āt existing is indeed a non-starter: the same people that argued for preservation are the same people that studied these qirā’āt.""
He also said: """The Quran is incredibly well preserved... word for word letter for letter down to the spelling"""
I love this woman may god bless u
Abdul avery, you should change your youtube name to Abu Avery
DoC, came ready to cook! She had the skillet HOT!!! “Do you have any evidence for that story you just made up? “😂😂😂😂
she literally lyd about al-Shinqeeti because he never said it's a "contradiction"! the sentence إشكال متعارض simply means; (conflicting issue) but whatever she wanna call it, al-Shinqeeti himself refuted her nonsense in the same page right in the next line! 😂 he mentioned the scholars explanation and he affirmed it by saying """SO, THE MEANING OF BOTH QIRĀ'ĀT IS LIKE THE SAME THING""
and then he himself also explained it thoroughly and affirmed it in the next line, and then he said; ""God *EXPLAINED* this story in many verses of his book and made it *CLEAR* ""
So this is why I'm always baffled at how crstians can easily be manipulated and misled by these so-called crstian apologists and polemicists!
Yeah, gotta change the definition of "contradiction" to make sense of all the differences in different ahrufs or whatever they are called, don't care one way or the other.
There's no contradiction in the first place, they literally lyd about al-Shinqeeti because he never said it's a "contradiction"! the sentence إشكال متعارض simply means; (conflicting issue) but whatever they want to call it, al-Shinqeeti himself refuted their nonsense in the same page right in the next line which they kept hiding it from you! 😂 he mentioned the scholars explanation and he affirmed it by saying """SO, THE MEANING OF BOTH QIRĀ'ĀT IS LIKE THE SAME THING""
and then al-Shinqiti himself also explained it thoroughly and affirmed it in the next line, and then he said; ""God *EXPLAINED* this story in many verses of his book and made it *CLEAR* ""
So this is why I'm always baffled at how crstians can easily be manipulated and misled by these so-called crstian apologists and polemicists!
@@studentofknowledge3684 better name yourself student of taqiyah
@@Coptic-2024 lol it's funny when crstians have no counter-argument argument so all you can do is use names and labels then run away from the actual argument in hand when you realize that you've been lyd too and misled by your fellow crstians! 😂
That guy said it's the same but different.
Yes it is the same not different. These Jai&Doc were making it up about al-Shinqeeti Check my comments on this Live.
Hrmm, the force (cognitive dissonance) is strong with that one.
@@studentofknowledge3684 join up and challenge them live. Let's see
@@studentofknowledge3684 its not the same did or did he not take her lol
@@imperfekt_zen he did not take her nor does the other qirā'āt say he took her either, lol and it's funny how you responded to my other comment after realizing that I've already answered that on a different comment!
A deeper meaning than a contradiction, we are not interested in your excuses, it is a contradiction.
Muhsin is extremely annoying. Just sayin
46:09 - QUR'AN: MIRACLE OR NO?
EXPLANATION 1:
"The Qur'an is a miracle because there is no explanation but God."
EXPLANATION 2:
The Qur'an is a non-miraculous farce because it was obviously contrived by a duplicitous, narcissistic con artist who attracts other narcissistic conmen and women who love "darkness rather than light" as evidenced by their deeds.*
* John 3:19
Matthew 12:33 MEV
"Either make the tree good and its fruit good, or else make the tree corrupt and its fruit corrupt. For the tree is known by its fruit."
FACTS OVER SENTIMENTS!!!
They didn’t give him no breathing room, KO.
They literally lyd about al-Shinqeeti because he never said it's a "contradiction"! the sentence إشكال متعارض simply means; (conflicting issue) but whatever they want to call it, al-Shinqeeti himself refuted their nonsense in the same page right in the next line which they kept hidden from you! 😂 he mentioned the scholars explanation and he affirmed it by saying """SO, THE MEANING OF BOTH QIRĀ'ĀT IS LIKE THE SAME THING""
and then al-Shinqiti himself also explained it thoroughly and affirmed it in the next line, and then he said; ""God *EXPLAINED* this story in many verses of his book and made it *CLEAR* ""
So this is why I'm always baffled at how crstians can easily be manipulated and misled by these so-called crstian apologists and polemicists!
@@studentofknowledge3684 stop pasting this all along. Everyone can know when a word is different from another in meaning and spelling. But under certain context you just admit when a mistake is a mistake.
@@MarietamumoMarieta I'm pasting this to raise awareness and expose these so called crstian polemicists. So anyone who is looking for the truth and the true understanding of this, will find it here in my comments.
both words are written and spelled the same in Arabic امرأتك - امرأتك literally meaning (your woman & your woman), one qirā'ā pronounced the (T ت) letter as Ta تَ and the other pronounced it as Tu تُ with the diacritical Mark dhamma ُ on top of the T. therefore the Arabic grammar connects the pronoun with the preposition "except" which allows the two qirā'āt to complement each other in meaning.
it simply says she turned around which gives the impression that she was with them (i.e. by following them) without Lute necessarily taking her with him, but the same Scholar (al-Shinqiti) that these Arab crstians used as evidence, refuted them in the same page explaining how the event happened based on the two qirā'āt read together. And then he said; "God *EXPLAINED* this story in many verses of his book and made it *CLEAR* " End Quote.
al-Shinqiti gave his reasons and supported it with a solid argument based on the Scholars who explained these qirā’āt over a thousand years ago!
And they did that by using evidence & proof with the example from surah al-Hijr and also ibn Mas'ud's qirā'ā (without the exception) and the Athar that was found in Islamic History books that states Lut's wife went out by herself and followed them then she turned around and got punished.. which shows that it wasn't necessary him who brought her with him as she just followed them by herself (certainly due to fear).
All of this indicates that, these qirā’āt only complement each other in meaning when you read them together.
al-Shinqiti is not a blind follower he has done his investigation and arrived at the correct conclusion that many scholars have arrived to like over a thousand years ago before him.
@@MarietamumoMarieta I'm pasting this to raise awareness, so anyone who is looking for the truth and the true understanding of this qirā'āt, will find it here in my comments. Are you that one? If so then bear with me.
both words are written and spelled the same in Arabic امرأتك - امرأتك literally meaning (your woman & your woman), one qirā'ā pronounced the (T ت) letter as Ta تَ and the other pronounced it as Tu تُ with the diacritical Mark dhamma ُ on top of the T. therefore the Arabic grammar connects the pronoun with the preposition "except" which allows the two qirā'āt to complement each other in meaning.
it simply says she turned around which gives the impression that she was with them (i.e. by following them) without Lute necessarily taking her with him, but the same Scholar (al-Shinqiti) that these Arab crstians used as evidence, refuted them in the same page explaining how the event happened based on the two qirā'āt read together. And then he said; "God *EXPLAINED* this story in many verses of his book and made it *CLEAR* " End Quote.
al-Shinqiti gave his reasons and supported it with a solid argument based on the Scholars who explained these qirā’āt over a thousand years ago!
And they did that by using evidence & proof with the example from surah al-Hijr and also ibn Mas'ud's qirā'ā (without the exception) and the Athar that was found in Islamic History books that states Lut's wife went out by herself and followed them then she turned around and got punished.. which shows that it wasn't necessary him who brought her with him as she just followed them by herself (certainly due to fear).
All of this indicates that, these qirā’āt only complement each other in meaning when you read them together.
al-Shinqiti is not a blind follower he has done his investigation and arrived at the correct conclusion that many scholars have arrived to like over a thousand years ago before him.
@@MarietamumoMarieta both words are written and spelled the same way in Arabic امرأتك - امرأتك literally meaning (your woman & your woman), one qirā'ā pronounced the (T ت) letter as Ta تَ and the other pronounced it as Tu تُ with the diacritical Mark dhamma ُ on top of the T. therefore the Arabic grammar connects the pronoun with the preposition "except" which allows the two qirā'āt to complement each other in meaning.
To end Islam ask for proof that the Quran was memorized. Trust me.
This would be like ending your whole career of attacking Islam! Lol because it's the easiest question ever, also these crstians literally lyd about al-Shinqeeti because he never said it's a "contradiction"! the sentence إشكال متعارض simply means; (conflicting issue) but whatever they want to call it, al-Shinqeeti himself refuted their nonsense in the same page right in the next line which they kept hiding it from you! 😂 he mentioned the scholars explanation and he affirmed it by saying """SO, THE MEANING OF BOTH QIRĀ'ĀT IS LIKE THE SAME THING""
and then al-Shinqiti himself also explained it thoroughly and affirmed it in the next line, and then he said; ""God *EXPLAINED* this story in many verses of his book and made it *CLEAR* ""
So this is why I'm always baffled at how crstians can easily be manipulated and misled by these so-called crstian apologists and polemicists!
OUR GOD AND HEAVENLY FATHER AND JESUS CHRIST HAS GIVE HIS SIGN BY BEING THE TRUE GOD AND CREATED OF HEAVEN AND EARTH . JESUSU IS OUR CREATED , BY MADE THIS EARTH AND A WEEK OF 7 . WHEM JESUS FINISCH TO CREATE JESUS HAS BLESSED AND SANTIFIED THE 7 DAY AS A SIGN TO BE THE TRUE GOD AND CREATOR OF EVERYTHING. GENESIS 2 : 3 GENESIS 1 : 26 > JOHN 1 : 1- 3 COLOSIANS 1 ; 6 JESUS IS THE LORD OF THE SABATH , BECAUSE JESUS THE CREATOR ! MARK 2 ; 27 - 28
I enjoy watching GodLogic because he is patient and allows the other side to speak.
This is how the Christian grace works.
Knowledge puffs up but love edify!
We are here to win hearts/souls and not just arguments.
There were not fair to the M guy.
This was great stuff who is the woman shes ruthless has she got a channel?
You will find her and her partner at JaiAndDoC on TH-cam.
Thank you
Daughter of Christ is a smart woman. That's why she is an exmuslim 😉
Maaaaaan Jai and Doc had that boy sweatin’, didn’t even need screen on to see it.
They literally lyd about al-Shinqeeti because he never said it's a "contradiction"! the sentence إشكال متعارض simply means; (conflicting issue) but whatever they want to call it, al-Shinqeeti himself refuted their nonsense in the same page right in the next line which they kept hidden from you! 😂 he mentioned the scholars explanation and he affirmed it by saying """SO, THE MEANING OF BOTH QIRĀ'ĀT IS LIKE THE SAME THING""
and then al-Shinqiti himself also explained it thoroughly and affirmed it in the next line, and then he said; ""God *EXPLAINED* this story in many verses of his book and made it *CLEAR* ""
So this is why I'm always baffled at how crstians can easily be manipulated and misled by these so-called crstian apologists and polemicists!
@@studentofknowledge3684 😂😂 how does it mean the same thing when they literally say opposite words ,gave a whole story about him explaining it in the next line without actually saying how they mean the same thing ,
@@babatundeopeyemi1423 they are not "opposite words".. both words are written the same in Arabic امرأتك - امرأتك literally meaning (your woman & your woman) the qirā'ā is an oral-tradition, one pronounced the (T ت) letter as Ta تَ and the other pronounced it as Tu تُ with the diacritical Mark dhamma ُ on top of the T. Therefore the Arabic grammar connects the pronoun with the preposition "except" which allows the two qirā'āt to complement each other in meaning.
it simply says she turned around which gives the impression that she was with them (i.e. by following them) without Lute necessarily taking her with him, but the same Scholar (al-Shinqiti) that these Arab crstians used as evidence, refuted them in the same page explaining how the event happened based on the two qirā'āt read together. And then he said; "God *EXPLAINED* this story in many verses of his book and made it *CLEAR* " End Quote.
al-Shinqiti gave his reasons and supported it with a solid argument based on the Scholars who explained these qirā’āt over a thousand years ago!
And they did that by using evidence & proof with the example from surah al-Hijr and also ibn Mas'ud's qirā'ā (without the exception) and the Athar that was found in Islamic History books that states Lut's wife went out by herself and followed them then she turned around and got punished.. which shows that it wasn't necessary him who brought her with him as she just followed them by herself (certainly due to fear).
All of this indicates that, these qirā’āt only complement each other in meaning when you read them together.
al-Shinqiti is not a blind follower he has done his investigation and arrived at the correct conclusion that many scholars have arrived to like over a thousand years ago before him.
King of waffle 😂😂😂
26:38 Muslim bro would of been better off at this point to just say it was the "multiverse" . So thats why both could happen . 🤣🤣🤣
Half brain is in fact more than full brain!
So Lot come out twice😂😂the Abdul was shocked when u asked him that question waw God His amazing 😍😍
As we say when in Jersey. DoC was coming for his neck!!!! 😂😂😂
she literally lyd about al-Shinqeeti because he never said it's a "contradiction"! the sentence إشكال متعارض simply means; (conflicting issue) but whatever she wanna call it, al-Shinqeeti himself refuted her nonsense in the same page right in the next line! 😂 he mentioned the scholars explanation and he affirmed it by saying """SO, THE MEANING OF BOTH QIRĀ'ĀT IS LIKE THE SAME THING""
and then he himself also explained it thoroughly and affirmed it in the next line, and then he said; ""God *EXPLAINED* this story in many verses of his book and made it *CLEAR* ""
So this is why I'm always baffled at how crstians can easily be manipulated and misled by these so-called crstian apologists and polemicists!
@@studentofknowledge3684is English a problem for you a contradiction can very well mean conflicting , which simply means not to agree, in this case the statement were both conflicted by cos they are opposing, now explain how they have the same meaning when we all can see that they oppose each other
@@babatundeopeyemi1423 seems like English is not your best suit, in Arabic "conflicting issue" is like when you confuse two things, just like in English a conflicted person means confused according to Cambridge dictionary. so if you confuse the two qirā'āt separately you would get that impression, instead of reading them together as one thing, like al-Shinqiti said " the meaning of the two qirā'āt is like the one thing".
This is why these Arab crstians were insisting and stressing on the word "contradiction" instead of the true meaning of that sentence.
And I already explained it on my other response.
both words are written the same in Arabic امرأتك - امرأتك literally meaning (your woman & your woman), one qirā'ā pronounced the (T ت) letter as Ta تَ and the other pronounced it as Tu تُ with the diacritical Mark dhamma ُ on top of the T. therefore the Arabic grammar connects the pronoun with the preposition "except" which allows the two qirā'āt to complement each other in meaning.
it simply says she turned around which gives the impression that she was with them (i.e. by following them) without Lute necessarily taking her with him, but the same Scholar (al-Shinqiti) that these Arab crstians used as evidence, refuted them in the same page explaining how the event happened based on the two qirā'āt read together. And then he said; "God *EXPLAINED* this story in many verses of his book and made it *CLEAR* " End Quote.
al-Shinqiti gave his reasons and supported it with a solid argument based on the Scholars who explained these qirā’āt over a thousand years ago!
And they did that by using evidence & proof with the example from surah al-Hijr and also ibn Mas'ud's qirā'ā (without the exception) and the Athar that was found in Islamic History books that states Lut's wife went out by herself and followed them then she turned around and got punished.. which shows that it wasn't necessary him who brought her with him as she just followed them by herself (certainly due to fear).
All of this indicates that, these qirā’āt only complement each other in meaning when you read them together.
al-Shinqiti is not a blind follower he has done his investigation and arrived at the correct conclusion that many scholars have arrived to like over a thousand years ago before him.
@@studentofknowledge3684 I do not care what his conclusion is the both verses say two different thing, obviously as a Muslim you would try to make it make sense to yourself, I mean you people justify the peadophilia in your religion so this is nothing compared, the point is , the Quran is not perfectly preserved and it’s also not well detailed as Allah claims even your scholar just said it’s a conflicting issue,seems you’re forgetting what we are talking about here ,the angel gave a command from Allah of which one of the verse said to take her and the other to leave her, what lot did is not the issue here or whatever happened in the story , the question is what was the command to lot from the angel? How does the two commands complement each other take your wife and leave your wife, maybe the story was later figured out in some other sources it’s not the point, these two commands are contradictory
@@babatundeopeyemi1423 are you just another bot who makes lies and red herrings to deflect & divert from the topic? Lol, I just explained it to you but you seem like you're in denial mode, closing your head doesn't help you here.
And the point here is that your boys lyd about Al-Shinqiti and hid the rest of the page where he refuted them.
So if you don't care about his "conclusion" then don't be a hypocritical going to his book to cherry pick and misquote while looking for something controversial to use again Muslims while hidding the rest of his words 😂 that's so deceptive and misleading, thus they misled you and you followed like a sheep!
And once again the verse doesn't say "including or excluding your wife" read my previous comment.
Now it's a "Perfect Contradiction"?😧
Welcome to islam and muslim apologetics. Alhamdulilah.
30:19 I can explain...
First command was given at the time of Dress rehearsal after that Allah didn't happy with her performance so Allah gave second command to leave her back...
You Khaffir won't understand because your heart have difficency.😂
DEEPER meaning! This clears up everything. Ignore context ignore the plain meaning of words.
these crstians literally lyd about al-Shinqeeti because he never said it's a "contradiction"! the sentence إشكال متعارض simply means; (conflicting issue) but whatever they want to call it, al-Shinqeeti himself refuted their nonsense in the same page right in the next line which they kept hiding it from you! 😂 he mentioned the scholars explanation and he affirmed it by saying """SO, THE MEANING OF BOTH QIRĀ'ĀT IS LIKE THE SAME THING""
and then al-Shinqiti himself also explained it thoroughly and affirmed it in the next line, and then he said; ""God *EXPLAINED* this story in many verses of his book and made it *CLEAR* ""
So this is why I'm always baffled at how crstians can easily be manipulated and misled by these so-called crstian apologists and polemicists!
This is a serious topic. Not for light weight high school drop outs like Avery. Says who? Just ask Justin Martyr...😂😂😂😂
This is a really poor video. The Arab guy being questioned can't get 3 words out of his mouth without being interrupted. I'm a Christian, but you must be fair.
Did the angel also give mohammed contradictions commands? Maybe that's why copies were burnt?
From the 10 minute until the 16 minute mark the female misrepresents the muslims position. He never said the word means "deep". He says "it can also be viewed as a deeper meaning (10:30)" and later he says "you can say it mean contradiction, but it also has a deeper meaning than just contradiction. (11:00)" then he says "it also has a deeper meaning (11:30)."
The woman then immediately misrepresents the argument at 11:44 saying "*arabic word* doesnt mean DEEP." At this point, noone has claimed it means DEEP. She is being dishonest toward the muslim.
I am surprised Avery did not comment on this and stop her from her 2 minute rambling about this misunderstood point. At 12:50 the muslim attempts to correct her misunderstanding. And he is immediately cut off with the same misrepresentation at 13:10.
At 14.10 the muslim humbly asks to be allowed to reply and is met with "but dont deceive or lie!! The irony is that he was not part of the deception going on over the last 4 minutes.
Please Avery. This woman hurts your case with her BS misrepresentation and constant interruption and inability to listen. I am glad you bring other people into the conversation, but her behaviour is too similar to dishonest muslims who misrepresent, interrupt and dont listen.
At around 16:30, after being misrepresented 10 times in the previous 5 minutes, he tries to leave the topic, probably realizing this woman will never shut up to listen.
At 17:00 Avery leaves. I am also close to leaving. The behaviour of this woman is incredibly disrespectful and dishonest.
Coming from a christian who loves your content. Dont let your partners behave like the dawah does. Its horrible.
13:28 in. Now you, friends, are the ones not actively listening to the muslum. Even when he explained that you all miss took what he said. That's a first. Hope it's the last, my freind. Mustn't be common, now.❤
I believe you guys are a very effective anti terrorism group more powerful than messsiles.
The holes in the standard narrative are at least well preserved!
I normally agree with the approach taken in the videos because a lot of the Muslims are being super dishonest and not answering directly, but this guy was trying to speak and he kept getting jumped and cut off. This had the opportunity to be a nice clean discourse but yall didn’t let him speak. I hope he comes back on and gets the chance to speak. And I’m a Christian and think Islam is a lie but he didn’t deserve the jumping he was getting lol
God logic is just enjoying his popcorn lol
I love listening to godlogic but It would be nice to actually hear the muslim speak instead of being interrupted everytime he opens his mouth. Let him dig his own grave instead of jumping on him. It's unbearable to listen to.
What is the channel that your Christian brother and sister have? I'd like to subscribe to them as well. AMBA
Oh common let the guy talk.. i lovr these and godlogic but in this one i wished they let the guys talk.. who is the women that keeps interrupting.
"can you bring up this guy who is more knowledgable" brings up someone who doesnt know anything and throws his religion under the bus
THE BIBLE MESSAGE OF SALVATION COULD allah NOT USING IN A FALSE BOOK, BECAUSE THE BIBLE IS THE ONLY TRUE WORD OF GOD ,BECAUSE WE CAN MIX THE MESAGE OF SALVATION IN A FALSE BOOK, THAT WHY WE CAN SEE THAT GOD HAS NOT ALLOW THIS MESSAGE TO COPY IN IT IN FALSE BOOK. THE BIBLE IS THE ONLY AUNTENTIC TRUE WORD OF GOD . BECAUSE ONLY JESUS WHO IS THE WORD CAN FILL THE EMPTINES OF OUR SOULS . ,MATTHEW 6 : 33 THE HEART OF EACH MAN , WHICH CAN BE SANTIFIED BY ANY CREATED THING, BUT ONLY BY GOD THE CREATOR , MADE KNOWN JESUS CHRIST . ONLY JESUS CAN SAVE US FROM THE DEATH AND CAN GIVE US ETERNAL LIFE . JOHN 7 : 37 - 39 JOHN 6 : 36 I AM THE BREAD OF LIVE. JESUS THE GREAT I AM..
She was definitely hard to listen to at times, and made the Muslim speaker a more sympathetic player in this "debate". 😕
CAN A DIE-HARD TRINITARIAN PLEASE STEP UP AND EXPLAIN HOW IT IS THAT JESUS HAS NOW RETURNED TO HEAVEN TO BECOME BOTH A KING AND A HIGH PRIEST TO GOD AND IS JOINED BY OTHERS WHO COME FROM THE EARTH AS HIS BROTHERS WHO LIKEWISE BECOME KINGS AND PRIEST TO GOD AS WELL - WITH JESUS STILL BEING ABLE TO BE RECOGNIZE BY TRINITARINAS AS THE CREATED GOD?
The Qur'an is "preserved" about the way cucumbers are, when pickled. That is to say, trimmed, sliced, combined with lots of other ingredients, then cooked to death. Such pickles have their place, but they are NOTHING like fresh cucumbers, and have very little nutritional value. Similarly, the original Aramaic Qur'an was coherent, and probably quite informative of the type of Christianity in which it arose. Modern Qur'ans are variable, incoherent, and bear scant resemblance to the original book. Nice work, Avery.
"It's a contradiction in a different sense."
They literally lyd about al-Shinqeeti because he never said it's a "contradiction"! the sentence إشكال متعارض simply means; (conflicting issue) but whatever they want to call it, al-Shinqeeti himself refuted their nonsense in the same page right in the next line which they kept hidden from you! 😂 he mentioned the scholars explanation and he affirmed it by saying """SO, THE MEANING OF BOTH QIRĀ'ĀT IS LIKE THE SAME THING""
and then al-Shinqiti himself also explained it thoroughly and affirmed it in the next line, and then he said; ""God *EXPLAINED* this story in many verses of his book and made it *CLEAR* ""
So this is why I'm always baffled at how crstians can easily be manipulated and misled by these so-called crstian apologists and polemicists!
The contradiction is a contradiction
@@studentofknowledge3684 All you wrote sounds like cope. Conflicting issue is a contradiction. A light cannot be both on or off at the same time. Second, what kind of God is so forgetful that he reveals the same story in the same way except for one word? This is clearly a clerical error, where someone made a mistake in copying the text but now Muslims how to create this crazy story of allah revealing both verses.
@@CovocNexus how is it cope when I literally provided evidence that they lyd about al-Shinqiti! Also this clearly shows you have no idea about the ahruf & qirā'āt which the Qur’an was revealed in, first of all it is not a scribal mistake because both words are written the same امرأتك & امرأتك which means (your wife / your wife) except that there's two ways of pronouncing the same letter (T) one prounced it (تَ as in "Ta") and the other (تُ as in "Tu") with a diacritical mark Dhamma و above the letter ت which would only complement the meaning when both qirā'āt are read together, thus you will find translations of the verse like the following:
"now travel with thy family while yet a part of the night remains, and let not any of you look back: but thy wife (will remain behind): To her will happen what happens to the people."
@@studentofknowledge3684 The word you're looking for is lied* I don't know why you keep saying lyd. And it is a scribal mistake. Clearly one person forgot one of the marks when copying. Just like in the classic example of fought/killed. They have the same backbone, but different diacritical marks. Someone makes a scribal error, then Muslims, in trying to keep up their lie that the Quran was perfectly preserved have to argue now that they are both correct. Again, surely, and all knowing God would know how to reveal information better than that.
@24:40 note the subtle SWITCH from where he began. When he arrived he claimed the koran was very well preserved and no contradiction . Now he is saying yes there is a contradiction but that it is still okay. But this CONTRADICTS his original claim about the koran being preserved without contradictions.
This women is so annoying, just calm dow for a second. And I am saying that as a Christian
@truthislove1441...no where does it say that allah changed the command. This is obvious a textual differance.
I know this brother aint over there eating popcorn like he watching a movie 😆
What a Stupid Challenge your god allah has set for your Truth because I have met the challenge three times by producing three better chapters 116:9 117:6 118:10 and now you are the witness.
Surah al-baqarah
2:23 And if you are in doubt about what We have sent down upon Our Servant [Muhammad], then produce a surah the like thereof and call upon your witnesses other than Allah, if you should be truthful.
116 Surah (al-injil)
1 وبهذا الانجيل تخلصون ان تمسكتم بالكلام الذي بشركم به. خلاف ذلك، يكون آيمانك عبثا
2 أن المسيح مات من أجل خطاياكم حسب إرادتي يا رب،
3 أنه دفن وأنه قام في اليوم الثالث حسب إرادة ربك
4 وظهر للاثني عشر بعد القيامة، ظهر لأكثر من خمسمائة من إخوتك وأخواتك في نفس الوقت
5 لأني أنا ربك أقيم الموتى في ذلك اليوم من القبر، وإن قلت إني لا أقيم الموتى، فإن المسيح لم يقم أيضا
6 ولكن المسيح ابني قد قام من بين الأموات، لكي تقوموا أنتم يا أبنائي وتعيشوا معي في السماء معي يا رب
7 لأنه ينبغي أن يملك ابني حتى نضع جميع أعدائنا تحت أقدامنا، وآخر عدو يباد هو الموت
8 لا تنخدع، فإن المعاشرات الرديئة تفسد الأخلاق الحميدة، ارجع إلى رشدك كما ينبغي، وكف عن الخطيئة، لأن هناك من يجهلني يا إلهك.
9 يسوع المسيح هو ابني الذي أوصيكم أن تتبعوه. سوف يقودك إلي، ربك.
117 surah (alhaqiqa)
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قل يا عيسى أعوذ بك رب ملك البشر
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ملك البشرية,
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إله البشرية القدير،
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من الشرير الذي يغري قلوبنا -
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الذي يتكلم في عقول البشر
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من إبليس والشياطين الذين يملكون البشر.”
118 Surah (alwsaya
1
«أنا الرب إلهك الذي أخرجك من مصر من أرض العبودية.
2
"لا يكن لك آلهة أخرى أمامي.
3
"لا تصنع لك تمثالاً صورة ما في السماء من فوق، وما في الأرض من تحت، وما في الماء من أسفل. لا تسجد لهم ولا تعبدهم. لأني أنا الرب إلهك إله غيور أعاقب الأبناء على خطيئة الآباء إلى الجيل الثالث والرابع من مبغضي وأظهر المحبة لألف جيل من الذين يحبونني ويحفظون وصاياي .
4
"لا تسيء استخدام اسم الرب إلهك، لأن الرب لا يبرئ أي شخص يسيء إلى اسمه.
5
"اذكر يوم السبت بتقدسه. ستة أيام تعمل وتصنع كل عملك، أما اليوم السابع فهو سبت للرب إلهك. لا تصنع فيه عملا ما أنت وابنك وابنتك وعبدك وامتك وبهائمك وكل نزيل نزيل في مدنك. لأن في ستة أيام صنع الرب السماء والأرض والبحر وكل ما فيها، واستراح في اليوم السابع. لذلك بارك الرب يوم السبت وقدّسه.
6
«أكرم أباك وأمك لكي تطول أيامك على الأرض التي يعطيك الرب إلهك.
7
"لا تقتل.
8
"يجب عليك أن لا تزن.
9
"لا تسرق.
10
"لا تشهد على قريبك شهادة زور.
"لا تشته بيت قريبك. لا تشته امرأة قريبك، ولا عبده أو أمته، ولا ثوره أو حماره، ولا شيئا مما لقريبك».
Saying something the opposite of something else gives it a deeper meaning?
I just saw determination to believe a lie
They say when someone has been indoctrinated to believe a lie they will embraces it even tighter when given the truth. Definitely in denial.😊
Lots wife was like, should I stay or should I go now 😂😂😂
muslim abrogated al lah and replaced better praise one muhammad
Let him speak and finish his question.
bro forgot his argument and started scrambling
"Al-Shinqīṭi does not see any problems in the Quran that need to be solved. All he sees is misconceptions that arise from people not properly understanding the Quran."
Bruh just needed to google the guy's name... apparently he called them "illusionary contradictions". So they're not contradictions, but instead misconceptions... wrap your head around that.
she literally lyd about al-Shinqeeti because he never said it's a "contradiction"! the sentence إشكال متعارض simply means; (conflicting issue) but whatever she wants to call it, al-Shinqeeti himself refuted her nonsense in the same page right in the next line! 😂 he mentioned the scholars explanation and he affirmed it by saying """SO, THE MEANING OF BOTH QIRĀ'ĀT IS LIKE THE SAME THING""
and then al-Shinqiti himself also explained it thoroughly and affirmed it in the next line, and then he said; ""God *EXPLAINED* this story in many verses of his book and made it *CLEAR* ""
So this is why I'm always baffled at how crstians can easily be manipulated and misled by these so-called crstian apologists and polemicists!
Note @3:11 he says the meanings different but there are no contradictions! Later at 24.40 he says there ARE contradictions but this is okay even though he began saying ther are no contradictions !
Its a contradiction but it doesnt contradict 😂😂😂😂
Two different commands and it’s fine for this Muslim.
Is he saying that Soddom and Gomorrah got destroyed twice? One time he left her and one time she went out with Lot and their daughters and she looked back.
Or is he saying that there were 2 Lots’ in different parallel earths and Allah gave both accounts lol😂
Clear contradiction and still can’t be honest with the contradiction in this chapter, verse because of their inability to allow the possibility the Quran isn’t preserved and may not be the word of God.
It's not "two different commands" I already responded to that on the livechat & also on Twitter few weeks ago, those two Arab xtians lyd about al-Shinqeeti he never said it's a "contradiction" the sentence "إشكال متعارض " simply means; (conflicting issue) and yet whether you want to call it a contradiction or not he literally refuted that misconception im the same page, which these two were hiding from you.
@@studentofknowledge3684 when one version says leave your wife behind when Lot was told to leave soddom and Gomorrah with his family when it was going to be destroyed and the other version says to bring his wife with him when he was told to leave, before soddom and Gomorrah would be destroyed, but explained that his wife looked back, those are contradicting commands. How are they not two different commands again? I heard the live both here and when it was on GodLogic’s channel. Please explain it again here. Nobody will interrupt you and I really want to see your explanation. I don’t go on twitter and what you said on the live stream did not clear up the two different commands Lot received.
@@Mouse.3 it doesn't say "to bring his wife with him" it simply says she turned around which gives the impression that she was with them (i.e. by following them) without Lute necessarily taking her with him, but the same Scholar (al-Shinqiti) that these Arab crstians used as evidence, refuted them in the same page explaining how the event happened based on the two qirā'āt read together. And then he said; "God *EXPLAINED* this story in many verses of his book and made it *CLEAR* " End Quote.
al-Shinqiti gave his reasons and supported it with a solid argument based on the Scholars who explained these qirā’āt over a thousand years ago!
And they showed that by using an example from surah al-Hijr and also ibn Mas'ud's qirā'ā (without the exception) and the Athar that states Lut's wife went out by herself and followed them then she turned around and got punished.. which shows that it wasn't necessary him who brought her with him as she just followed them by herself.
All of this indicates that, these qirā’āt only complement each other in meaning when you read them together.
al-Shinqiti is not a blind follower he has done his investigation and arrived at the correct conclusion that many scholars have arrived to like over a thousand years ago before him.
@@studentofknowledge3684 that was peak cope lol it says to TAKE your wife and the other says LEAVE lol
@@imperfekt_zen let's find out who's coping here! The verse does not say "take your wife." you will never find that in any of the qirā'āt lol! If you read my previous comment you will realize what the verse say according to the qirā'ā of Hafs, but let's quote that part of the verse here;
"now travel with thy family while yet a part of the night remains, and let not any of you look back: but thy wife (will remain behind): To her will happen what happens to the people."
So, the verse says "travel with thy *FAMILY* " it doesn't specifically say "take your wife" as you tried to insert that made up line! Because you read "let not any of you look back: except your wife" and you thought the verse was saying "take your wife"! Lol it doesn't necessarily mean that he was the one who took her, she simply followed them by herself (out of fear) and then she turned back and got punished thus you'll find translations like the above one, saying; "but your wife (will remain behind)"
But the irony & the funny thing is that, the same Scholar (al-Shinqiti) that these two crstians used on the live stream as evidence, is actually refuting them on the same page! So why did they make things up about al-Shinqiti??!
DOC, God bless you ❤❤❤ You cooked that dinner perfectly.
But I thought the book was clear not deep 😂😂😂
It's not a contrasiction it's a deeper meaning, really Abdool 😂
So with Surah 37:12
hafs Quran “But *YOU* wonder, while they mock…”
Khalaf Quran “But *I* wonder, while they mock…”
The deeper meaning is not only Muhammad can be shocked but Allah also?
@@gregorytremain4086 I was emphasizing the stupidity of the response
it's not a contradiction, they literally lyd about al-Shinqeeti because he never said it's a "contradiction"! the sentence إشكال متعارض simply means; (conflicting issue) but whatever they want to call it, al-Shinqeeti himself refuted their nonsense in the same page right in the next line which they kept hidden from you! 😂 he mentioned the scholars explanation and he affirmed it by saying """SO, THE MEANING OF BOTH QIRĀ'ĀT IS LIKE THE SAME THING""
and then al-Shinqiti himself also explained it thoroughly and affirmed it in the next line, and then he said; ""God *EXPLAINED* this story in many verses of his book and made it *CLEAR* ""
So this is why I'm always baffled at how crstians can easily be manipulated and misled by these so-called crstian apologists and polemicists!
Give the man a chance to finish his sentence. I’m not even a Muslim but a good debater should know when to listen.
You are able to get your point across without interruption.
Yes exactly! She acts like that because whenever she feels someone is about to refute their nonsense, she jumps to the rescue by interrupting and speaking over them as a tactic to end up kicking the guests out! Lol
And she literally lyd about al-Shinqeeti because he never said it's a "contradiction"! the sentence إشكال متعارض simply means; (conflicting issue) but whatever she wanna call it, al-Shinqeeti himself refuted her nonsense in the same page right in the next line, he mentioned the scholars explanation and he affirmed it by saying """SO, THE MEANING OF BOTH QIRĀ'ĀT IS AS THE SAME THING""
and then he himself also explained it thoroughly and affirmed it in the following line, and then he said; ""God *EXPLAINED* this story in many verses of his book and made it *CLEAR* ""
So this is why I'm always baffled at how crstians can easily be manipulated and misled by these so-called crstian apologists and polemicists!
If I'm commanded to flee with my wife, but leave her if she impeded my command, that's not contradicting it's differing if I say I left her.
these crstians literally lyd about al-Shinqiti because he never said it's a "contradiction"! the sentence إشكال متعارض simply means; (conflicting issue) but whatever they want to call it, al-Shinqiti himself refuted their nonsense in the same page right in the next line which they hid from you! 😂 al-Shinqiti mentioned the scholars explanation and he affirmed it by saying """SO, THE MEANING OF BOTH QIRĀ'ĀT IS LIKE THE SAME THING""
and then al-Shinqiti himself also explained it thoroughly and affirmed it in the next line, and then he said; ""God *EXPLAINED* this story in many verses of his book and made it *CLEAR* ""
So this is why I'm always baffled at how crstians can easily be manipulated and misled by these so-called crstian apologists and polemicists!
'I'm not a scholar'. Immortal words lol.
neither are they! So let's hear from the same Scholar these crstians used as evidence! They literally lyd about al-Shinqeeti, because he never said it's a "contradiction"! the sentence إشكال متعارض simply means; (conflicting issue) but whatever they want to call it, al-Shinqeeti himself refuted their nonsense in the same page right in the next line which they kept hidden from you! 😂 he mentioned the scholars explanation and he affirmed it by saying """SO, THE MEANING OF BOTH QIRĀ'ĀT IS LIKE THE SAME THING""
and then al-Shinqiti himself also explained it thoroughly and affirmed it in the next line, and then he said; ""God *EXPLAINED* this story in many verses of his book and made it *CLEAR* ""
So this is why I'm always baffled at how crstians can easily be manipulated and misled by these so-called crstian apologists and polemicists!
Unfortunate that they will not allow M to continue.
Let him speak
If you consider pickling preservation, it has. It has undergone a number of processes and it exists, but it is no longer a fresh cucumber.
I said the same in my comment. Great minds think alike.
@@mysotiras21 The Muslims appeal to a magic of perfect oral transmission they can't confirm. But the fact that written texts with variants do exists proves those texts documented someone's memory and affirmed by a community willing to print it. The snapshots in time of variants proves memory is fallible.
@@charlesmuhmanson3928 , yep. Yet for some reason this very obvious truth goes right over the heads of stone-kissers. "The worst deception is self-deception" - stone-kissers have cornered the market on that.
Is this Brian dead person he get him self deeper and deeper than he said he is not Schouler
Bless up SheikLogic 🙌🏾
Why didnt you all let him talk.....