I would highly suggest triple tactics thrust. Going second it's more ways to search REF, Evenly, Nadir. Going first you can side in metaverse with secret village instead of terrforming and literally secret village on your opponent's turn.
red eyes and dm work together better than their own at this point tbh. konami should bite the bullet and combine them into the "normal monster" arc type
The problem with the DM cards honestly isn’t that they are bad cards, it’s that unlike most other legacy decks the new support was printed to late not to be OPT or HOPT and yet often times too early to have multiple good and useful effects.
@@jobejacobs62You do know that Dark Burning Magic only works with cards that are originally named Dark Magician and Dark Magician Girl, right? DM the Dragon Knight does NOT work with Dark Burning Magic. You of ALL people should know this
You are right about S:P it can wait, I am happy that you finally started running Cross Out. That's a great and Simple DM deck, WP King, you made your community proud, Good Luck Next time
Lol Loza roasting while in a deck profile! But awesome run at YCS like the ratio of the deck i would have main village cause find the hand traps a bit to much.
Hi! First of all thank you for the deck profile :) I was wondering what is, in your opinion, its competitiveness’ level compared to the current meta and also considering all its cards’ characteristics by themselves. Thank you in advance!
Honestly a full pure DM deck with no hand traps would be interesting to see. It would be interesting to test whether the reason it is bricky is because we are playing hand traps and generic staples
@@TonyFS12 it kind of is. Most likely your opponents will be running handtraps so it clogs up their plays. This is why cards like Branded & Salvation are very useful.
@@Citizen_Nappa23 not really. I just tested the DMtDK/Eternal/Bond/DBM theory. Its way more competitive in this format. I'll explain why: 1. Branded Fusion is a 1.5 Card combo that can setup the Dragon Knight play. Only fear is Ash. 2. Salvation can bypass Droll & Ash. 3. Bond & DBM setup can bypass Droll. 4. Draw power would be 3 draws, including Mahad in the GY. Only fear is Ash & Droll after resolution. 5. Meta players are board heavy and they want to destroy your board, so DMtDK prevents them while enabling you to destroy their boards.
Is it a bad idea that we need to rethink navigation in our deck??? Maybe even a 1 of i mean we can easily put dm in our hand and ss a floodgate from deck ijs
Dayum LOZA out here with the roasts mid profile 🤣 Seriously though, nice deck profile! A lot of people (including myself) have gone with the belief that "Ash is the best hand trap in the game" trap, when in fact there's two major downsides to it: - You can only use one per turn - If you have multiple in your hand, your hand is bricked Effect Veiler looks to be WAY better than any other hand trap. Infinite Impermanence is a close second for me, with the only downside that you have to control no cards to use it from the hand, still hella good tho! I'm definitely changing my stance on Ash Blossom and reassessing what hand traps I use once I get back into the TCG. Other than that, Imma grind out MD. Nice video king!
@@luisavalos4415 Branded Fusion, Mahad, Rod, Salvation, and Bond if going first. 1. Activate Branded Fusion by sending Albaz & DM to the GY to summon Lubellion, then discard Mahad to summon Dragon Knight. 2. Activate Salvation to set Eternal Soul. 3. Then, summon Rod to add Servant. 4. Activate Bond to summon DMG and then set Dark Burning Magic. 5. Activate Servant to place Souls on top, then draw 3 cards. 6. If you draw 1 extra card, DM Circle, and Souls, activate Souls to summon DM and then activate Salvation to summon DMG, after that, activate DM Circle to add 1 DM card. 7. Next turn, wait until your opponent sets up the field, then boardwipe them with DBM. Also, if DMG leaves the field, you can use Salvation to bring it back by summoning DM with Eternal.
@@jobejacobs62that's way too many cards to rely on opening. 1-2 card combos with various options is where it's at that's why DM isn't really competitive.
Dragoon makes top tier decks laugh.. But .. hopefully one day dark magician players will understand that.. If they don't.. Well the top tier players will have a few more laughs... 🤷 Good deck great profile nothing to say because you said it all. 👍
@@LOZA-DM serious question.. Did you only lose to fire kings? On a nother note I understand going for more wins some times means a smaller dark magician engine.. I was hoping you would try the dark magician branded but then again.. your the boss of your profile and I respect that 👍
Circles not great?? Like what?? Look at the top 3 add a card to your hand that mentions dark magician which means it also plays into eye of timaeus and you get banishing off of summons of DM. bruh.... DMC is insane.
@ChristianHernandez-up7dx circle is literally what makes DM work. You can even make it work without eternal souls, but you can't run the deck without circle. If you dont know that you shouldn't even be commenting on a DM thread.
@@brokencontrollers3858 Hahah bro stop with the bait you’re making me laugh too hard irl. Ah good one. I like how you left out the part about Circle needing 2 other cards to be able to actually do anything and I especially lol’d at the EOT part considering how you need a way to draw into it as well as an additional card to put summon DM. (EOT already being an incredibly bad card in itself, so justifying Circle through EOT was hilarious man) But yeah nvm power cards like Nadir, Branded Fusion, REF and nvm strong engines like Diabellstar Dogmatika, Bystial. Circle is the real GOAT. imagine thinking all these other options are good when we got Circle right? Just activate, re-arrange (apparently look for EOT lmao) and then hope you can setup that fragile 3-Card Combo for minimal gain. Yeah man, this was some good bait. I like it. Let’s all build our deck in a way that wasn’t even good for 2016. Who’s with me?
@ChristianHernandez-up7dx so your whole argument is predicated on the fact that the deck does what it's supposed to do and does it well. The whole point of the DM deck is to stack your deck. This is why you have circle, this is why you have soul servant, this is why you have salvation. To pull the cards you need to pull by manipulating your deck. Servant allows you to stack your deck and put what you want to pull from circle then you get the draw effe t to draw 3 if you actually know what you're doing with the deck. You don't need other cards. You just need to summon dark magician. Normal and special summons count for the activated effect. If you can't special summon DM in a deck that built around DM that sounds like a you problem not an engine problem. Circle is good if you know how to use it but to say it's bad is outright inexperienced ignorance and that's putting it nicely.
@ChristianHernandez-up7dx and I couldn't care less how strong you think the nadir engine is, without other cards you can't get that engine to go off either so to your point of needing 2 other cards branded and nadir engines both need additional cards. What dumb thing to say.
Sorry that I sound a bit flat in this video, it was after a long (and fun) day and I'm exhausted! Goodnight ya'll
I would highly suggest triple tactics thrust. Going second it's more ways to search REF, Evenly, Nadir. Going first you can side in metaverse with secret village instead of terrforming and literally secret village on your opponent's turn.
Very valid and based
"the less dark magician cards you play the better the deck will get" 😂😂
I always say it 😂😂
red eyes and dm work together better than their own at this point tbh. konami should bite the bullet and combine them into the "normal monster" arc type
It was close to being that too@@ianslee4765
You sure do Loza, you say that all the time.
The problem with the DM cards honestly isn’t that they are bad cards, it’s that unlike most other legacy decks the new support was printed to late not to be OPT or HOPT and yet often times too early to have multiple good and useful effects.
Dude. You do know the whole point is to set up the Dragon Knight board with DMG & Burning Magic? It can be done with Rod, Salvation, Bond, & Branded.
@@jobejacobs62You do know that Dark Burning Magic only works with cards that are originally named Dark Magician and Dark Magician Girl, right? DM the Dragon Knight does NOT work with Dark Burning Magic. You of ALL people should know this
@@CoolsyNitro you do know you can search DM with other cards you haven't used?
Yep, all dm cards are pretty bad and have lots of restrictions
Seems like a Dragoon deck instead of DM
since link kuriboh is banned, can you maybe tell us what we should play instead or make a new deck profile
You are right about S:P it can wait, I am happy that you finally started running Cross Out.
That's a great and Simple DM deck, WP King, you made your community proud, Good Luck Next time
My last deck was based of yours. Imma do the same thing but wait until souls' becomes an acceptable price.
I'll see if I can muster the energy for a Regionals or YCS again and represent the DM family with my build.
Spicy list
I really like to see how everyone thinks about the format
Lol Loza roasting while in a deck profile! But awesome run at YCS like the ratio of the deck i would have main village cause find the hand traps a bit to much.
Hi! First of all thank you for the deck profile :) I was wondering what is, in your opinion, its competitiveness’ level compared to the current meta and also considering all its cards’ characteristics by themselves. Thank you in advance!
Decks felt really good into anything that wasn't snake eyes 😂
Snake eyes are just too strong
Now i'm motivated to make this deck in real life
‘You’ll say this is bricky’
It is. Do you know what would fix that? Mahad.
😂😂😂😂
glad u did well, keep going. Dm best deck
Have you ever thought of dropping circle?
Yeah honestly it and E Soul are so dated
Honestly a full pure DM deck with no hand traps would be interesting to see. It would be interesting to test whether the reason it is bricky is because we are playing hand traps and generic staples
Nah that's not the reason
@@TonyFS12 it kind of is. Most likely your opponents will be running handtraps so it clogs up their plays. This is why cards like Branded & Salvation are very useful.
Pure DM would get destroyed in a competitive setting
@@Citizen_Nappa23 not really. I just tested the DMtDK/Eternal/Bond/DBM theory. Its way more competitive in this format. I'll explain why:
1. Branded Fusion is a 1.5 Card combo that can setup the Dragon Knight play. Only fear is Ash.
2. Salvation can bypass Droll & Ash.
3. Bond & DBM setup can bypass Droll.
4. Draw power would be 3 draws, including Mahad in the GY. Only fear is Ash & Droll after resolution.
5. Meta players are board heavy and they want to destroy your board, so DMtDK prevents them while enabling you to destroy their boards.
I have done it on stream.
It's completely useless
W Loza! Way to represent my guy!
Man about time someone thinks like me when it comes to Dark Magician
Is it a bad idea that we need to rethink navigation in our deck??? Maybe even a 1 of i mean we can easily put dm in our hand and ss a floodgate from deck ijs
Wich floodgate?
@@vedremo9240 shaman she pretty much cuts off the graveyard for both players
@@vedremo9240 gravekeeper shaman
Dayum LOZA out here with the roasts mid profile 🤣
Seriously though, nice deck profile! A lot of people (including myself) have gone with the belief that "Ash is the best hand trap in the game" trap, when in fact there's two major downsides to it:
- You can only use one per turn
- If you have multiple in your hand, your hand is bricked
Effect Veiler looks to be WAY better than any other hand trap. Infinite Impermanence is a close second for me, with the only downside that you have to control no cards to use it from the hand, still hella good tho! I'm definitely changing my stance on Ash Blossom and reassessing what hand traps I use once I get back into the TCG. Other than that, Imma grind out MD.
Nice video king!
Handtraps are always format specific! Never forget 😎
Super solid list broski. Cross out has been an mvp for my deck. Glad you had a good time!
im about to start using the "destroy all spellcasters" card >_>
if there was one for dragons i'd use it too
this card "last day of the witch" should have had the loza token with a forbidden symbol on top of him instead xD
Great deck man! 💪🏽🧙🏽♂️🤘🏽
Ty king
thanks loza appreciate the list
Very good list loza, sems very fun to play 🤔, but for me, the future for dm will be gold sarcophagus of light when will come out
I'm grinding Shining Sarc too bro! 😎
Watch out for my profiles
@@LOZA-DM absolutly 💪, i'm curious for a list with toybox engine and maybe archfiend arrival if it need it
Good deck , losses to droll tho 😁😁
YOOOO you right
What sleeve/brand do you use? I got some recently which wound up being a bit too loose. Nice list man, thanks! Glad you did pretty good with it.
Dragon shields
@@LOZA-DM thanks man
Can we some game play, please!!
dope mat
definetly try 2x winda
It's good if they don't out schism
My criticism: Add in Bond & DBM. Setup DMtDK & Salvation. You will have a protected board while wiping your opponents.
Give me the opening hand to complete this setup.
@@luisavalos4415 Branded Fusion, Mahad, Rod, Salvation, and Bond if going first.
1. Activate Branded Fusion by sending Albaz & DM to the GY to summon Lubellion, then discard Mahad to summon Dragon Knight.
2. Activate Salvation to set Eternal Soul.
3. Then, summon Rod to add Servant.
4. Activate Bond to summon DMG and then set Dark Burning Magic.
5. Activate Servant to place Souls on top, then draw 3 cards.
6. If you draw 1 extra card, DM Circle, and Souls, activate Souls to summon DM and then activate Salvation to summon DMG, after that, activate DM Circle to add 1 DM card.
7. Next turn, wait until your opponent sets up the field, then boardwipe them with DBM. Also, if DMG leaves the field, you can use Salvation to bring it back by summoning DM with Eternal.
@@luisavalos4415 Branded Fusion, Mahad/DMG, Rod, Circle/Salvation, & Servant.
@@jobejacobs62that's way too many cards to rely on opening. 1-2 card combos with various options is where it's at that's why DM isn't really competitive.
@@jobejacobs62 At that rate might as well start with the 5 pieces of Exodia XD. Also you do know you cant use Dark Burning with Dragon Knight right?
Dragoon makes top tier decks laugh..
But .. hopefully one day dark magician players will understand that..
If they don't..
Well the top tier players will have a few more laughs...
🤷
Good deck great profile nothing to say because you said it all. 👍
based Julifer comment
@@LOZA-DM serious question..
Did you only lose to fire kings?
On a nother note I understand going for more wins some times means a smaller dark magician engine.. I was hoping you would try the dark magician branded but then again.. your the boss of your profile and I respect that 👍
@@julifer9211 snake eyes fire kings were my losses. It's definitely earned its place as the tier 0 deck of the format
2nd one here..
1st one here..
Lol
Circles not great?? Like what?? Look at the top 3 add a card to your hand that mentions dark magician which means it also plays into eye of timaeus and you get banishing off of summons of DM. bruh.... DMC is insane.
This is definitely bait lol
@ChristianHernandez-up7dx circle is literally what makes DM work. You can even make it work without eternal souls, but you can't run the deck without circle. If you dont know that you shouldn't even be commenting on a DM thread.
@@brokencontrollers3858 Hahah bro stop with the bait you’re making me laugh too hard irl. Ah good one. I like how you left out the part about Circle needing 2 other cards to be able to actually do anything and I especially lol’d at the EOT part considering how you need a way to draw into it as well as an additional card to put summon DM. (EOT already being an incredibly bad card in itself, so justifying Circle through EOT was hilarious man)
But yeah nvm power cards like Nadir, Branded Fusion, REF and nvm strong engines like Diabellstar Dogmatika, Bystial. Circle is the real GOAT. imagine thinking all these other options are good when we got Circle right? Just activate, re-arrange (apparently look for EOT lmao) and then hope you can setup that fragile 3-Card Combo for minimal gain.
Yeah man, this was some good bait. I like it. Let’s all build our deck in a way that wasn’t even good for 2016. Who’s with me?
@ChristianHernandez-up7dx so your whole argument is predicated on the fact that the deck does what it's supposed to do and does it well. The whole point of the DM deck is to stack your deck. This is why you have circle, this is why you have soul servant, this is why you have salvation. To pull the cards you need to pull by manipulating your deck. Servant allows you to stack your deck and put what you want to pull from circle then you get the draw effe t to draw 3 if you actually know what you're doing with the deck. You don't need other cards. You just need to summon dark magician. Normal and special summons count for the activated effect. If you can't special summon DM in a deck that built around DM that sounds like a you problem not an engine problem. Circle is good if you know how to use it but to say it's bad is outright inexperienced ignorance and that's putting it nicely.
@ChristianHernandez-up7dx and I couldn't care less how strong you think the nadir engine is, without other cards you can't get that engine to go off either so to your point of needing 2 other cards branded and nadir engines both need additional cards. What dumb thing to say.