When someone complains about how one practices their art, I like what Kurtis from CEE Australia says, "My shop. My money. My way!" Everyone one else can Foxtrot Oscar!
As you talked about how to use a telescoping gauge and micrometer, it reminded me of a situation at work. We had a part fail on a job in a remote location. It cost 8 hours of down time of drilling rig and $6,000 for helicopter flight to bring the new part to location. So $41,667.00 dollars a hour is $333,337.00 for 8 hours $333,337.00 plus $6,000.00 is $339,337.00 of lost down time. An investigation was launched as lack of maintenance was found to be the cause. I tried to show the maintenance manager how to use a telescoping gauge and micrometer but that was pointless but I had an inexpensive bore gauge that could measure a new part and then an old part. I’m not saying it’s easier but it was taught in 5 minutes and understood by all. I love using a telescoping gauge and micrometer but it can’t be taught in 5 minutes. Thanks for sharing.
Mister Adam there is 10,000 different ways to do a job And only people you have to please is you and your customer love your videos and the way you try to educate people on how to do stuff again, there's different ways to do it and as long as the job gets done the way you want it done go anyway you want to. Have a great day. Be safe. Sam
I’ve always used Telescoping gages for checking bore sizes. If you’re a job shop machinist that shop isn’t going expend the $ needed for dial bore gages; unless it’s a standard “long term repeat job” and the customer requires it. Great Job as usual Adam!!
Adam, when I comment on TH-cam, I always critique, never criticise as I am not talented enough to give my singular opinion as though it was ‘the gospel’. Great watching you working, took me back to your days in ‘Motion’, please keep posting, we learn so much.
I may have missed a very few of your videos, but I think I've seen them all. I remember seeing the explanation about measuring the bore at least two other times on your channel and remembering all those bore measurements for cylinders you made pistons for at Motion. Nothing wrong with tested and proven, consistent results. I had to laugh a little at your screen note at 32:34 about you ordering a dial bore gage and Bore Gage Setter. You may have gotten a few from your viewers or perhaps a sponsored one. Love the videos! No one has to tell you to keep up the good work, you will.
You should do a “tool box” tour. Long format video just showing us all your niche tools, attachments, antiques etc you have in both shops. Would be interesting to see
@@NutjobGTO a lot of tools are generic tools that can be used across multiple different trades. But there are some ones more specific to this trade like the coax indicator, thread measuring triangles I know Adam has which I’ve never seen before, spring loaded centres (for guided hand tapping), edge finders, different types of machinists jacks, adjustable parallels, all sorts of turning and milling tools, work holding fixtures for example those side clamping bolts Adam has used on a previous milling set up, has like an elliptical bore so that as you tighten it transfers clamping force sideways, usefull for low profile set ups on thin parts. Just a few examples 😂 much more I imagine we haven’t seen. I’m a machinist myself so its interesting discovering new stuff all the time
This could be a nice series of Tuesday videos where he explains the specialty tools and maybe demonstrates some of them. I’ve picked up so many tips and tool recs over the years and would love to learn more
WORKED for Ford dealership last 17 years of my time of employment at the age of 66 years. GUYS would be so mad because I do not have a 5000 Dollar tool box. and tools I bet you don't this and that tool. Five ventage tool boxes on top and under my work table. I told him I and not paying snap on tool bill that is paying too much. I have rebuilt at least 20 automatic Transmissions. YOUR TEACHING IS GREAT ADAM
Hah, I've been with FoMoco as an SMT since 1986......I laughed every time I saw an 80K tool box roll in.......tools don't make the craftsman, the craftsmen figures out how to do it without the "special" tool......Most of those guys couldn't fix sst. 4R75W, 4R100, 5R55E.......
Don't ever doubt your experience, knowledge and gut feeling about how you should carry out your work. Others may try to steer you one way or another but always stay true to yourself. Great job on a challenging project, Adam!
There are many ways to skin a cat... it comes down to what works for you... repeatability is what is about... if you can measure a bore with a tape measure and be accurate every time then use it... Adam... dont get hung up on "keyboard artisans" most of the people that have negative comments are the ones that have never even touched a tool or been near a machine shop... Glad the lathe is performing well for you, really nice to see an old machine back doing its thing. Regarding the gloves... it is a good habit to try and learn to put them on... our skin absorbs a lot of chemicals that can have a lot of consiquences down the line...its a good habit that more of us should try and stick to... I am one that often forgets to put on gloves for even a simple task... I have tried to be better at it... now I make it part of a routine whenever I work with any adhesives, oils or chemicals... Putting yourself on YT is something I have comtemplated many times.... sharing knowledge and experience but at what cost... You are brave for putting yourself out there...Keep up the good work!
I purchased a lathe and learned how to use it by watching you and Mr. Pete. I'd say I can hold my own now, a few years later. I purchased telescopic gauges because that's what I saw you use, and they've always worked for me.
You don't have to be on You Tube to get negative comments about your methods. There is always more than one way to skin a cat. I have had many successful projects during my career using my learned method of layout and execution, and my projects are still serviceable with regular maintenance. I typically just smile and continue the way that works for me if it's my project. Thanks. After posting the above, I edited my comment to post an example of my most memorable "formal correction" of my methods and the results of the high-level meeting that ensued but decided it would probably bring more negative comments and decided to refrain. And the nay-sayers continue. LOL
I've been a subscriber since you were working for the company u used to work for. Playing with big boy toys making big boy chips. And seeing you now running your own company with all the toys u have in your comoany shop is awesome! I am super happy for you. And let me tell you, seeing the smile you have, I can tell you're super happy too and it's PRICELESS!! 👍
Great videos. Over the years you have inspired me to start taking on more complex jobs instead of saying " I can't handle it." Awesome shop too! Keep the videos coming!
Adam, your a legend, don't listen to the nay sayers that was absolutely brilliant. Your Dad taught you extremly well. You are a blessing, Thank you for your great videos, have a great day Adam.
Hey man- proof is in the pudding, as they say. We ALL know those bearings were ground far more accurate and your very close sliding fit validates that your telescoping gauges are working just fine!
Great job, Adam! Also a great performance from the American Pacemaker. I learned a lot. You know, we have a saying - The shortest road is the one you know - and I think it applies in most of the things we do in life, like measuring a bore, for example. So, as long as they work just fine it means your methods are correct, don't worry on what others have to say. Can't wait for your next project.
It is frustrating Adam to have doing something successfully for a long time to the satisfaction of the end user to have someone say you are doing it wrong! Your a talented Machinist with lots of experience, beyond most for your age. Keep doing it your way.
This was a great series of videos! I am one that is here to learn and hone my skills on a manual lathe and on a manual mill. You have great content for that! I learn a lot from your videos!
For what it's worth, I've only ever used a telescope guage for measuring bores. It was the way I was taught, it's what my dad did, and it's what my daughter that has become a machinist does. I've never had an issue with accuracy.
I remember visiting the machine shop. In particular, there was a row of metal drums situated next to the overhead door. Every few days, a barrel or two would fill with chips and somebody would run it over to the scrap dealer. The forklift made unhappy noises because a barrel full of chips was a strain.
It always amazes me what these tools can do. My Home Depot drill bits go belly-up after trying to drill a half-inch hole in 1/16 inch material meanwhile Abom is drilling a 3 inch hole through a quarter mile of steel. With precision!
As an amateur, I'm in favor of a bore gauge in this case just because it seems too easy to introduce some taper or bell-mouthing with the abrasive hand-work in a deep bore where it's very hard to reach with the snap gauge.
If you had a more efficient coolant pump, it would look better. You said you'd give one with more efficiency. It is better to be able to adjust the coolant with such high machine loads. First class work done.
Glad to see that you turned those blocks 180 degrees on the pallet for shipping. It would have been a real shame if some dingus at the shipping company on a forklift rammed a fork into a finished bore.
Howdy, Adam I never had a moment's doubt about the Pacemaker's ability to handle that job. I have a lot of experience with a Pacemaker and I know what amazing machines they are. I've always said that your American Tool Works Pacemaker will make you a better machinist and if that doesn't happen it just means you're not paying attention. I don't understand folks problem with using the telescope gauge. As you said, learning to use it takes a little practice. The bore gauge can be used to take accurate measurements but it takes even more practice. Inside micrometers are okay but I'm going to check it with an outside mic and go by that. I enjoyed watching that lathe do it's thing a I hope to see it center stage again soon. Thanks. Bob
Excellent work Adam. I like how you showed balance weights on the chuck. Many overlook the importance of balancing large workpieces. Love that new shope of yours. Wnat an excellent set up. Cheers, Aaron.
Measuring is the means to an end. You've been using your technique for many years so who cares as long as everything is in spec at the end? People have to split hairs about every little thing. What's right for one may not be right for the other but in both cases, it doesn't matter as long as everything meets the customers' requirements.
Machining is about splitting hairs. When you use the flap disk you have a really high chance of introducing taper, which is a pain in the ass with snap gauges. The extension wasn't even long enough to measure the back of the bore.
When someone complains about how one practices their art, I like what Kurtis from CEE Australia says, "My shop. My money. My way!" Everyone one else can Foxtrot Oscar!
Great comment (foxtrot alpha)
Good evening Adam, Paulie in Orlando
As you talked about how to use a telescoping gauge and micrometer, it reminded me of a situation at work. We had a part fail on a job in a remote location. It cost 8 hours of down time of drilling rig and $6,000 for helicopter flight to bring the new part to location. So $41,667.00 dollars a hour is $333,337.00 for 8 hours $333,337.00 plus $6,000.00 is $339,337.00 of lost down time. An investigation was launched as lack of maintenance was found to be the cause. I tried to show the maintenance manager how to use a telescoping gauge and micrometer but that was pointless but I had an inexpensive bore gauge that could measure a new part and then an old part. I’m not saying it’s easier but it was taught in 5 minutes and understood by all. I love using a telescoping gauge and micrometer but it can’t be taught in 5 minutes. Thanks for sharing.
Mister Adam there is 10,000 different ways to do a job And only people you have to please is you and your customer love your videos and the way you try to educate people on how to do stuff again, there's different ways to do it and as long as the job gets done the way you want it done go anyway you want to. Have a great day. Be safe. Sam
So much more satisfying watching hands on manual machining instead of the CNC stuff.
yep
The Pacemaker is awesome
That American Pacemaker is gonna outlive us all.
Adam you are a great teacher!! love your detailed showing how you use snap gauges.
Really nice to see you making some chips, Adam, and on a PAYING job too.
American Iron, built to get the job done ! Thank you for another Great video. Cheers
I’ve always used Telescoping gages for checking bore sizes. If you’re a job shop machinist that shop isn’t going expend the $ needed for dial bore gages; unless it’s a standard “long term repeat job” and the customer requires it.
Great Job as usual Adam!!
Absolutely 0 excuse for a mordern job shop to not have a set of 3 prong internal micrometers up to 150mm. A digital set will come in under 10k.
Adam, when I comment on TH-cam, I always critique, never criticise as I am not talented enough to give my singular opinion as though it was ‘the gospel’. Great watching you working, took me back to your days in ‘Motion’, please keep posting, we learn so much.
Hi Adam, thank you from England
your videos are an integral part of my lifelong learning
all the best to you and your family
I may have missed a very few of your videos, but I think I've seen them all. I remember seeing the explanation about measuring the bore at least two other times on your channel and remembering all those bore measurements for cylinders you made pistons for at Motion. Nothing wrong with tested and proven, consistent results. I had to laugh a little at your screen note at 32:34 about you ordering a dial bore gage and Bore Gage Setter. You may have gotten a few from your viewers or perhaps a sponsored one. Love the videos! No one has to tell you to keep up the good work, you will.
You should do a “tool box” tour. Long format video just showing us all your niche tools, attachments, antiques etc you have in both shops. Would be interesting to see
He's done several tool box tours in the past...Even had Abby digging through them!
Innit that basically... If you're in a machinist's toolbox, everything you find is some kinda specialty tool?
😂😂😂😂😂😂 that woukd be a three week long stream.
@@NutjobGTO a lot of tools are generic tools that can be used across multiple different trades. But there are some ones more specific to this trade like the coax indicator, thread measuring triangles I know Adam has which I’ve never seen before, spring loaded centres (for guided hand tapping), edge finders, different types of machinists jacks, adjustable parallels, all sorts of turning and milling tools, work holding fixtures for example those side clamping bolts Adam has used on a previous milling set up, has like an elliptical bore so that as you tighten it transfers clamping force sideways, usefull for low profile set ups on thin parts. Just a few examples 😂 much more I imagine we haven’t seen. I’m a machinist myself so its interesting discovering new stuff all the time
This could be a nice series of Tuesday videos where he explains the specialty tools and maybe demonstrates some of them. I’ve picked up so many tips and tool recs over the years and would love to learn more
You do things differently than I would. But then, you're not me, and I've learned from you.
Thank you.
WORKED for Ford dealership last 17 years of my time of employment at the age of 66 years. GUYS would be so mad because I do not have a 5000 Dollar tool box. and tools I bet you don't this and that tool. Five ventage tool boxes on top and under my work table. I told him I and not paying snap on tool bill that is paying too much. I have rebuilt at least 20 automatic Transmissions. YOUR TEACHING IS GREAT ADAM
Hah, I've been with FoMoco as an SMT since 1986......I laughed every time I saw an 80K tool box roll in.......tools don't make the craftsman, the craftsmen figures out how to do it without the "special" tool......Most of those guys couldn't fix sst. 4R75W, 4R100, 5R55E.......
@@raymanzi1829 that is so true sir
Don't ever doubt your experience, knowledge and gut feeling about how you should carry out your work.
Others may try to steer you one way or another but always stay true to yourself.
Great job on a challenging project, Adam!
Watching you, I see skill. You know so many techniques- thanks for showing them.
There are many ways to skin a cat... it comes down to what works for you... repeatability is what is about... if you can measure a bore with a tape measure and be accurate every time then use it... Adam... dont get hung up on "keyboard artisans" most of the people that have negative comments are the ones that have never even touched a tool or been near a machine shop... Glad the lathe is performing well for you, really nice to see an old machine back doing its thing. Regarding the gloves... it is a good habit to try and learn to put them on... our skin absorbs a lot of chemicals that can have a lot of consiquences down the line...its a good habit that more of us should try and stick to... I am one that often forgets to put on gloves for even a simple task... I have tried to be better at it... now I make it part of a routine whenever I work with any adhesives, oils or chemicals... Putting yourself on YT is something I have comtemplated many times.... sharing knowledge and experience but at what cost... You are brave for putting yourself out there...Keep up the good work!
I purchased a lathe and learned how to use it by watching you and Mr. Pete. I'd say I can hold my own now, a few years later. I purchased telescopic gauges because that's what I saw you use, and they've always worked for me.
You don't have to be on You Tube to get negative comments about your methods. There is always more than one way to skin a cat. I have had many successful projects during my career using my learned method of layout and execution, and my projects are still serviceable with regular maintenance. I typically just smile and continue the way that works for me if it's my project. Thanks.
After posting the above, I edited my comment to post an example of my most memorable "formal correction" of my methods and the results of the high-level meeting that ensued but decided it would probably bring more negative comments and decided to refrain. And the nay-sayers continue. LOL
You are the best in my opinion
Abom, your explanation of using the telescoping gauge is one of the many reasons I watch your channel. I learn something nearly every video.
One more vid for the series...shoveling out a few hundred pounds of chips and cleaning out the Pace Maker.....🤣
I've been a subscriber since you were working for the company u used to work for. Playing with big boy toys making big boy chips. And seeing you now running your own company with all the toys u have in your comoany shop is awesome! I am super happy for you. And let me tell you, seeing the smile you have, I can tell you're super happy too and it's PRICELESS!! 👍
Skill always take Practice. Great Lesson Adam. Thanks for the video.
That Skyhook sure comes in handy. I remember when you got it and some viewers were skeptical of its value. Great series, Adam, as usual.
Great videos. Over the years you have inspired me to start taking on more complex jobs instead of saying " I can't handle it." Awesome shop too! Keep the videos coming!
Great Job! Great lesson on the use of a snap gauge. You are a master.
I know the routine; you get it all dialed in and running smooth just in time for the last one!
great way to measure the bore.
Adam, your a legend, don't listen to the nay sayers that was absolutely brilliant. Your Dad taught you extremly well. You are a blessing, Thank you for your great videos, have a great day Adam.
thank you for a great video. Much appreciated
Great Job,every move counted,so educational and enjoyable,you never disappoint,thank you for sharing
Hey man- proof is in the pudding, as they say. We ALL know those bearings were ground far more accurate and your very close sliding fit validates that your telescoping gauges are working just fine!
With knowing your unwavering precision, experience and skill I wonder how anyone could question your methods.... :-)
Because everyone on the internet is a mother-fucking genius.
Often the best tool isn't which tool is best, but which tool you can use best.
Great work. I really liked the way you explain all of the steps you took. Well done.😊
I was in the machining industry for 46 years and never had any problems with using a telescoping gage and mics
Fine job Adam,now for the cleanup 🙂
Great job, Adam! Also a great performance from the American Pacemaker. I learned a lot. You know, we have a saying - The shortest road is the one you know - and I think it applies in most of the things we do in life, like measuring a bore, for example. So, as long as they work just fine it means your methods are correct, don't worry on what others have to say. Can't wait for your next project.
It is frustrating Adam to have doing something successfully for a long time to the satisfaction of the end user to have someone say you are doing it wrong! Your a talented Machinist with lots of experience, beyond most for your age. Keep doing it your way.
Thank you for the explanation on the gauge. I agree with you whole heartedly. Experience and the fact you have been doing it for years speaks volumes,
Haters will be haters. You hit the number, how you do it is up to you!
This was a great series of videos! I am one that is here to learn and hone my skills on a manual lathe and on a manual mill. You have great content for that! I learn a lot from your videos!
For what it's worth, I've only ever used a telescope guage for measuring bores. It was the way I was taught, it's what my dad did, and it's what my daughter that has become a machinist does. I've never had an issue with accuracy.
Enjoyed watching as always!
Great video as usual Adam. Keep doing you my friend.
Watch all of your videos and I have to say this project is a LOT OF WORK! You crushed it and really put in the time - another great job. Thank you
I’m here for both entertainment as well as learning-probably won’t use the education as I’m 71 and retired 😊😊
Great series! Thank you, Adam.
I hope you and Abi had a great thanksgiving!
Sweet work Adam, hope that paid well🤑.
Great job. Thank you 😊
Thank you for your knowledge and content Sir.
Really enjoy watching that big drill!
I remember visiting the machine shop. In particular, there was a row of metal drums situated next to the overhead door. Every few days, a barrel or two would fill with chips and somebody would run it over to the scrap dealer. The forklift made unhappy noises because a barrel full of chips was a strain.
You're always an amazing proud machinist Abom ♥♥ Love your videos. Entertainment and education for me ;)
Quite a interesting job , thanks so very much for sharing your work , your knowledge is amazing !! 👍😎
Great video series. Enjoyed watching those big chips come off that spade drill.
That’s the type of project I really like to see.
That centering gauge you mount in the tool post is genius
Your work speaks for itself. Measure with a potato if you can do it with consistent accuracy for all I care.
"If you can't use a telescope gage, you probably can't set a bore gage." Sez Wizard below. So right! Orange gloves or not.
Very satisfying to see that dream shop making big chips. Hopefully there will be repeat orders now that you have dialed in so well.
It always amazes me what these tools can do. My Home Depot drill bits go belly-up after trying to drill a half-inch hole in 1/16 inch material meanwhile Abom is drilling a 3 inch hole through a quarter mile of steel. With precision!
The real value of the sky hook. Repetitive lifting of objects you could lift, but shouldn't.
36:31 maybe a smidge more polishing. another 1/2 thou.
Speaking of merch, you could sell some of those chips. I'm sure some artsy kind of person could make something out of them.
As an amateur, I'm in favor of a bore gauge in this case just because it seems too easy to introduce some taper or bell-mouthing with the abrasive hand-work in a deep bore where it's very hard to reach with the snap gauge.
I love these piles of steaming chips!
Perfect job for the "old girl".... 🙂
Might be a good time to go to the scrape yard.
Can you do a video with the new bore gauge and compare it to your current method to see if there are any differences
Great video series!!!
being a third generation machinist I think you know what you're doing.
The Pacemaker handles that with ease. Let er eat.
Now you have to do a comparison bore gauge vs telescope 😂
That comparison will be nice to know instead of "have" to.
If you had a more efficient coolant pump, it would look better. You said you'd give one with more efficiency. It is better to be able to adjust the coolant with such high machine loads. First class work done.
Thanks for bringing us along on this journey. Always amazed at you mad skills.
Glad to see that you turned those blocks 180 degrees on the pallet for shipping. It would have been a real shame if some dingus at the shipping company on a forklift rammed a fork into a finished bore.
Impressive! Bet you are glad this is complete
In machinist school they required use to use telescoping gauges and micrometer to measure the bore, i didn't even know any other way till TH-cam
that crane cart is sick!
Never boring.
Love spending my watch-minutes here
I measure bores exactly the same way as you Adam it is very accurate thanks for the vids
The tools without you will be a bunch of steel. Well done!! 🎉
I'm pretty sure most of the machinists on youtube measure bores the way you do. At least all the ones I've seen.
Thanks
That sure is a 'Hill of Chips' at 6 mins! Awesome man! 👍❤
it would be interesting on how many pounds of chips came out of those parts. Great job as always Adam.
Your old shoot method that you use is good but when get the new bore gauge’s you will like them they are easy to use
A question from a non-machinist. Can and do you recycle all those chips? I love the way you do your magic on steel.
You know if you’d done that last one first, you’d a been finished by now! 😜😂😂😉
Howdy, Adam I never had a moment's doubt about the Pacemaker's ability to handle that job. I have a lot of experience with a Pacemaker and I know what amazing machines they are. I've always said that your American Tool Works Pacemaker will make you a better machinist and if that doesn't happen it just means you're not paying attention.
I don't understand folks problem with using the telescope gauge. As you said, learning to use it takes a little practice. The bore gauge can be used to take accurate measurements but it takes even more practice. Inside micrometers are okay but I'm going to check it with an outside mic and go by that.
I enjoyed watching that lathe do it's thing a I hope to see it center stage again soon. Thanks. Bob
Excellent work Adam. I like how you showed balance weights on the chuck. Many overlook the importance of balancing large workpieces. Love that new shope of yours. Wnat an excellent set up. Cheers, Aaron.
Did you consider using an automobile engine cylinder hone?
Measuring is the means to an end. You've been using your technique for many years so who cares as long as everything is in spec at the end? People have to split hairs about every little thing. What's right for one may not be right for the other but in both cases, it doesn't matter as long as everything meets the customers' requirements.
well said i agree
Machining is about splitting hairs. When you use the flap disk you have a really high chance of introducing taper, which is a pain in the ass with snap gauges. The extension wasn't even long enough to measure the back of the bore.
interesting process, there was a lot of thought and planning that went into it.. Can you tell us how many pounds of material were removed in total?