Hi There, I used to train 12yrs ago in L.A at Dojo USA under Late Sensei Robert Bryner, and I used to study Okinawan Ryu-Te and every now again Students from Inosanto Academy would come to teach us Kali. I can tell you that I did find a lot of similarities within the 2 arts especially on the empty hands drills. As I live now in AUS and Ryu Te does not exist I'll continue with Panantukan. Great explanation. Chiao my friend Morgan
I love gunting. I've used it consistently over the years and it's one of the most underrated yet effective techniques in my arsenal. My dad had me doing just this for a year before we moved on. It literally works on anyone.
@@maxstrengthholistics Absolutely. Works in sparring and combat. Think of it as punching the arm to punch the face and its easier to apply and comprehend. Be careful of the angles in sparring though. Folks pretend otherwise but they all extend the arm and it can be dislocated or worse.
thanks for your comment. respectful, intelligent and... helpful comments are severely lacking in the online (youtube) community. peace and respect. Scott.
LunaticReason it hurts like hell and can cause temp limb paralysis if brachial nerve is hit right (I know from practice and I have “Dr.” In front of my name and practice sports medicine/therapy
Question, people high on drugs, alcohol, or both, do not register pain like a normal person. Will limb destruction be effective against them? What I mean is will these techniques slow down their attacks since their nerves are being attacked?
While pain perception may be different on inebriated persons, shock/damage on the nerves may render the same fate. Shock on nerves may render weakness on the muscles to where the nerve connects to. Damage or severance of nerves may even cause paralysis/flaccidity of the muscle and or limb itself. Again, pain does not have to be a factor for these to happen. On the other hand, I see a big issue for a supposed person with a sound mind physically confronting an intoxicated one, especially one so intoxicated that they can not control their own thoughts. Of whom, rare if ever, an intoxicated person unable to control their own thoughts be able to control their own balance and action. If physical conflict does occur with these people, a simple waft in the wind would knock them easily due to inebriation.
Remember, with a boxer, by the time you block (esp. employing both hands, say, to "destroy the bicep" with a strike) the second blow is on its way to your head or body. Of course, using a knife, or two, is a different matter.
good explanation. imo, this drill does not work if we're just slapping the lower arm (as you see in a lot of videos), it makes sense to get in there deep either for destruction or positioning.
Nice video. I personally prefer shorter gunting with the inside part of the wrist (psiform bone) to the interior part of the elbow where the ulnar colateral ligaments and nerve are. (funny bone as you say). Hitting the biceps or triceps with the knuckles it is not very effective under my experience and you need to commit to go in a little too deep. When you hit the interior ligaments of the elbow you can keep your stance and distance without moving in. This is useful for "warning" hits.
IF CAN DEFANG WHY NOT ATTACK THE FACE, WHY WASTE TIME ON THE LIMB. WHEN YOU SLIP THE REASON YOU SLIP IS SO YOU CAN STAY IN RANGE OF HITTING THE FACE WHY YOU AVOID OPPONENTS ATTACK. RIGHT?
EMPTY HANDS STRATEDGY IS DIFFERNT THEN HAVING WEAPONS STRATEDGY. E.G. IF I HAVE A GUN IN HAND, I WILL FIGHT VERY DIFFERENT THEN IF I HAVE NO WEAPON. IF I HAVE A SWORD VERY DIFFERENT.
IF I FIGHT WITH A KNIFE AND MY OPPONENT HAS NO KNIFE. MY STRATEDGY WOULD BE TO CONCEAL MY KNIFE AND STICK IT INTO MY OPPONENT UNAWARE OF MY KNIFE. I AM NOT GOING TO SHOW MY KNIFE.
Coz its not practical for sports where you have gloves, and its dangerous enough to inflict career ending damage, and you wouldnt want to do that to your fellow practitioner.
WHY DO ALL THAT. IF I HAVE TWO KNIFES AGAINST AN UNHARMED, WHY WOULD I TAKE ANY RISK BY TRYING TO DO A SLIP. I WOULD BE ATTACKING WITH TWO KNIFES. HE WOULD BE RUNNING. IF I WAS UNHARMED, WHY WOULD I PUT TWO HANDS ON ONE HAND TYING BOTH THIS IS NOT EFFICIENT. I WOULD NOT BOTHER DEFANGING IF HE HAD NO WEAPONS. THE ONLY TIME THIS MAKES SENSE IS IF HE HAS WEAPONS ATTACKING ME. MOST OF THIS STUFF IS MAKES SENSE ONLY IF THE OPPONENT HAS WEAPONS. THIS BACK AND FORTH WITH EMPTY HANDS AND WITH WEAPONS IS NONSENSE.
PANANTUKAN is not a FIlipino Martial Art. this art is only invented by western guys for their marketing. IT does not exist in our country. PANANTUKAN, PANANJAKMAN, KINA MUTAI, HUBUDKUBUD all of this terms are wrong and does not exist in our filipino vocabulary and also the term KALI is only invented by DAN INOSANTO
You are exactly right on the butt Pareng Ben. All those terms are recent inventions by enterprising FilAms. They do this out of a longing for something indigenous to the Filipino Martial Arts and a sense of identity.
McSpaghetti and Chicken McDo do not exist here in our country. I have been to the original McDonald's site in Southern California and from West Coast to East Coast I have never seen them. But they exist. And they are good. I have eaten them many times. What some don't know is that McSpaghetti did exist and was offered in the US in the late 80's. It did not stay, but it was offered in the Philippines by enterprising Filipinos and many people like it. Is it authentic? Is it official? Not to all, but definitely to some. And to some, it is delicious.
Kinamutay is from Visayas, you dumb shit, and it's always been called that way. And how could you say Kali was a word invented by Dan Inosanto when Western Visayans have always referred to their martial arts with names like Kalirongan, Kaliradman, Pagkalikali and of course, the name Kali itself?
Tsk, stupid statement. Either you're trying hard to discredit other Filipinos or you've been living in a cave your whole life. People were already talking about Panantukan when I was in high school.
What a fucking dumb idiot. Bet you didnt even grew up in here. Either you're a filipino with selfloathing issues or a spanish. Been seeing a lot of butthurt spanish trying to discredit Kali. Dont know what you guys deals are
Hi There, I used to train 12yrs ago in L.A at Dojo USA under Late Sensei Robert Bryner, and I used to study Okinawan Ryu-Te and every now again Students from Inosanto Academy would come to teach us Kali.
I can tell you that I did find a lot of similarities within the 2 arts especially on the empty hands drills. As I live now in AUS and Ryu Te does not exist I'll continue with Panantukan.
Great explanation. Chiao my friend
Morgan
Very well explained and demonstrated! Many salutations to you and your practice!
Beautiful art, beautiful technique, great teaching! A+
Right on bro! Simply AWESOME!!!
Great video on the limb destruction and entry!
Can't always tell an Inosanto student.. great detailed instructions followed by great technique.
I love gunting. I've used it consistently over the years and it's one of the most underrated yet effective techniques in my arsenal. My dad had me doing just this for a year before we moved on. It literally works on anyone.
Does it work in sparring? I want to try it out
Will it work on the arm?
@@maxstrengthholistics
Absolutely. Works in sparring and combat. Think of it as punching the arm to punch the face and its easier to apply and comprehend. Be careful of the angles in sparring though.
Folks pretend otherwise but they all extend the arm and it can be dislocated or worse.
thanks for your comment. respectful, intelligent and... helpful comments are severely lacking in the online (youtube) community.
peace and respect.
Scott.
SAwesome Teaching and Tactics. Dr. Hull
Very nice video. Very good teaching. Thank you for sharing!
It's the ulnar nerve. Radial runs to the thumb.
What does it feel like getting hit in the bicep like that? Does it cause any sort of permanent damage or just pain?
LunaticReason it hurts like hell and can cause temp limb paralysis if brachial nerve is hit right (I know from practice and I have “Dr.” In front of my name and practice sports medicine/therapy
It feels like nothing when your opponent is much smaller than you
Question, people high on drugs, alcohol, or both, do not register pain like a normal person. Will limb destruction be effective against them? What I mean is will these techniques slow down their attacks since their nerves are being attacked?
While pain perception may be different on inebriated persons, shock/damage on the nerves may render the same fate. Shock on nerves may render weakness on the muscles to where the nerve connects to. Damage or severance of nerves may even cause paralysis/flaccidity of the muscle and or limb itself. Again, pain does not have to be a factor for these to happen.
On the other hand, I see a big issue for a supposed person with a sound mind physically confronting an intoxicated one, especially one so intoxicated that they can not control their own thoughts. Of whom, rare if ever, an intoxicated person unable to control their own thoughts be able to control their own balance and action. If physical conflict does occur with these people, a simple waft in the wind would knock them easily due to inebriation.
Remember, with a boxer, by the time you block (esp. employing both hands, say, to "destroy the bicep" with a strike) the second blow is on its way to your head or body. Of course, using a knife, or two, is a different matter.
good explanation. imo, this drill does not work if we're just slapping the lower arm (as you see in a lot of videos), it makes sense to get in there deep either for destruction or positioning.
Nice video. I personally prefer shorter gunting with the inside part of the wrist (psiform bone) to the interior part of the elbow where the ulnar colateral ligaments and nerve are. (funny bone as you say). Hitting the biceps or triceps with the knuckles it is not very effective under my experience and you need to commit to go in a little too deep. When you hit the interior ligaments of the elbow you can keep your stance and distance without moving in. This is useful for "warning" hits.
make a video on jeet tek!
nice video
IF CAN DEFANG WHY NOT ATTACK THE FACE, WHY WASTE TIME ON THE LIMB. WHEN YOU SLIP THE REASON YOU SLIP IS SO YOU CAN STAY IN RANGE OF HITTING THE FACE WHY YOU AVOID OPPONENTS ATTACK. RIGHT?
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That would be the ulnar nerve, not the radial nerve.
EMPTY HANDS STRATEDGY IS DIFFERNT THEN HAVING WEAPONS STRATEDGY. E.G. IF I HAVE A GUN IN HAND, I WILL FIGHT VERY DIFFERENT THEN IF I HAVE NO WEAPON. IF I HAVE A SWORD VERY DIFFERENT.
Funny bone= ulnar nerve, not radial nerve
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IF I FIGHT WITH A KNIFE AND MY OPPONENT HAS NO KNIFE. MY STRATEDGY WOULD BE TO CONCEAL MY KNIFE AND STICK IT INTO MY OPPONENT UNAWARE OF MY KNIFE. I AM NOT GOING TO SHOW MY KNIFE.
IT'S A DEMO AND DRILL!!
Wondering why this fantastic unique sensational realistic conter technique is never used in MMA fights?!
It have used in the roads since years ago, and as i heard it worked. So why it's necessary to work on mma?
Coz its not practical for sports where you have gloves, and its dangerous enough to inflict career ending damage, and you wouldnt want to do that to your fellow practitioner.
@@crewcutter2030 hahaha for sure...=). Panantukan-guys are so nice...do not hurt your opponent
THERE IS `NO SUCH THING AS ILLEGAL IN REAL LIFE SELF DEFENSE THIS NOT SPORT MARTIAL ARTS ITS DO OR DIE COMBAT SURVIVAL TECHNIQUES OUSH
WHY DO ALL THAT. IF I HAVE TWO KNIFES AGAINST AN UNHARMED, WHY WOULD I TAKE ANY RISK BY TRYING TO DO A SLIP. I WOULD BE ATTACKING WITH TWO KNIFES. HE WOULD BE RUNNING. IF I WAS UNHARMED, WHY WOULD I PUT TWO HANDS ON ONE HAND TYING BOTH THIS IS NOT EFFICIENT. I WOULD NOT BOTHER DEFANGING IF HE HAD NO WEAPONS. THE ONLY TIME THIS MAKES SENSE IS IF HE HAS WEAPONS ATTACKING ME. MOST OF THIS STUFF IS MAKES SENSE ONLY IF THE OPPONENT HAS WEAPONS. THIS BACK AND FORTH WITH EMPTY HANDS AND WITH WEAPONS IS NONSENSE.
PANANTUKAN is not a FIlipino Martial Art. this art is only invented by western guys for their marketing. IT does not exist in our country.
PANANTUKAN, PANANJAKMAN, KINA MUTAI, HUBUDKUBUD all of this terms are wrong and does not exist in our filipino vocabulary
and also the term KALI is only invented by DAN INOSANTO
You are exactly right on the butt Pareng Ben. All those terms are recent inventions by enterprising FilAms. They do this out of a longing for something indigenous to the Filipino Martial Arts and a sense of identity.
McSpaghetti and Chicken McDo do not exist here in our country. I have been to the original McDonald's site in Southern California and from West Coast to East Coast I have never seen them. But they exist. And they are good. I have eaten them many times.
What some don't know is that McSpaghetti did exist and was offered in the US in the late 80's. It did not stay, but it was offered in the Philippines by enterprising Filipinos and many people like it. Is it authentic? Is it official? Not to all, but definitely to some. And to some, it is delicious.
Kinamutay is from Visayas, you dumb shit, and it's always been called that way.
And how could you say Kali was a word invented by Dan Inosanto when Western Visayans have always referred to their martial arts with names like Kalirongan, Kaliradman, Pagkalikali and of course, the name Kali itself?
Tsk, stupid statement. Either you're trying hard to discredit other Filipinos or you've been living in a cave your whole life. People were already talking about Panantukan when I was in high school.
What a fucking dumb idiot. Bet you didnt even grew up in here. Either you're a filipino with selfloathing issues or a spanish. Been seeing a lot of butthurt spanish trying to discredit Kali. Dont know what you guys deals are
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