@@justinsidious9772 It's Vacation and Sick days. And where I have worked if you have unused of either at the end of the year or the end of your time working with them, they pay you out.
@@Buckets50 That is the company's fault for giving a "boss" 70 days of paid off-time. I never heard of a company doing roll-over time like XM did. Opie was also pissed that Steve wouldn't work a second job for free (maintain their website)
@@lithium23 yea we all know opie is ridiculous. All I’m saying is Steve is basically pawning off all of his Monday work on his subordinates and is then befuddled by everyone being pissed at him. It’s an oversight on XMs part sure but it’s more of a dick move by Steve to do it. His solution is that everyone should take a day a week off and create even more of a work flow log jam.
Opie was the only one taking this seriously. Jimmy and Ant were just going along, because if they didn't, Opie would sink into a shitty mood and ruin the show for a week.
Even in death, Stephen Carr couldn't escape the infamous Steve voice. One time, Anthony did the voice after Steve's sad passing, "Yeasss! In a ghoost. BOOOOO!" It is a hilarious impression. Too good to die with Steve.
He imploded as opposed to exploding. So idk, in my opinion it shows he cared for people to a degree because he just checked himself out and didn't bring anyone with him.
No I think the issue was that he was going to take every Monday off. That’s really bad for the show. Tell you what, why don’t you go ahead and try to takeoff the next 52 Mondays at your work and tell me what happens.
@@enjoyer6201 If my job gave it 52 days...sounds good Would they prefer if he took two months straight off, or....? Just give up free money like a good corporate stooge? Why don't you go work double shifts at your job (one for free, of course) show them what a good worker you are
I've noticed something Steve does a lot, too - whenever somebody makes an absolutely valid, inarguable point against him he says "I know, I completely understand...." and then he'll proceed to explain why he's still right without ever actually addressing the other person's point. It actually becomes infuriating after a while.
@@E101ificationAnd he always talks about his genitals getting smashed or kicked or crushed as an analogy for getting chewed out or chastised by his coworkers.
In fairness to Steve C it is kind of crazy the way they're all insisting he's paranoid for thinking people are against him and out to get him when literally the previous day they're all bragging and laughing about how they deliberately feed Steve false information so he fucks up in his job. And Opie was literally encouraging his staff to disrespect Steve C and was actually mocking Erock for _not_ disrespecting him. I'm not saying Steve C wasn't wrong in the overall argument but the cognitive dissonance of Opie and the other staff is pretty astounding.
Yeah it's pretty much bullshit that no one owned up to that. Jimmy's an honest guy, and wax surprising that he didn't bring it up. Didn't go back to listen, but maybe he wasn't there that day.
Opie was the most oblivious douche ever. He pitted the staff against each other and threw them under the bus when it suited him and then complained when they hated him.
@@randommanwill802 yeah if Opie had showed the slightest bit of loyalty or humanity over his career he would not be as hated as he is now. Sometimes you get what you deserve.
People who Opie thought he was better than or had power over.. Only those people since they usually wouldn't fight back and he could feel better about his untalented self. Right place right time and Anthony who was the show w/ comedians.
They should've lobbied for their staff to get paid out for unused vacation/sick days, and if they couldn't do it then they should've paid them out of pocket to keep the staff happy and the show running.
@mastafull radio hosts NEVER come out of their own pocket lmao it's scummy af. Like how every time howard would get an idea for some event or contest he always complained about the company not wanting to fund it lmao even if it was like a 20k prize or something else that howard makes in seconds
Dannys 2 arguments based on what benefits him at the time. 1- This is a place of business act professional, Steve 2- This is the O and A show, learn to take a joke, Steve
A break from what? I mean, yeah, they abused him a lot, but I always got the impression he really did bring it on himself. He always presented even himself in a terrible, incompetent light. I mean seriously he gets caught out on lies covering for laziness almost every appearance. He should just say, "they're my vacation days, go fuck yourself".
They did. And he took advantage of them. Some people are like this. Haha the last and most ridiculous example of steve c shenanigans was even after he was fired he didn't inform any sponsors and movie studios that he was let go and kept recieving all the swag they sent the b-b-b-boys
Damn, they really treated Steve like shit, he was talking about how toxic the work environment is, and they all turned it around on him, nowadays some of the staff have admitted to how bad it was with the staff, and around the office.
@@justinsidious9772 I just think they way they constantly fucked with him did no favors for his self esteem. I get that’s the nature of the show but there were a couple of bits when you can hear him spiraling
@@justinsidious9772 idk if you know this, but what really started the rift between steve and the show is that he refused to just hand them over the rights to the o&a video content he shot, compiled, and hosted on his own website foundrymusic - at his own cost. because he wanted to negotiate some kind of payout for all the work he produced - work that was beyond his pay grade; work that helped catapult the show into mainstream success - HE was the selfish money-grubbing rat. not any of the other know-nothings and do-nothings on staff. not the hosts, who were too stupid to consider posting video content online to market their own show. nope - all of a sudden, it was steve’s problem. he was no longer their friend; he became all these things you hear them say about him in the bits. o&a were always greedy lazy pigs that coasted off the hard work of others while they themselves contributed as little as they possibly could. they belong in hell.
Listening to this is depressing knowing Steve eventually committed suicide. I think Steve was thrust into the producers position (after Ben Sparks was fired) which wasn't really his skill set. He was good at making audio that the show used (Ramone, "that's terrible, I'm sorry") and talking on air. He was not good at managing and directing people. On top of that stress he knew half the staff didn't like him, and that Anthony's best friend Danny absolutely despised him and always threw passive aggressive jabs - like rolling his eyes like a 14 year old girl every time Steve spoke. He tried taking as many Monday's off as possible because he hated his job.
Chris Palmer well thought out assessment; Steve was legit at end of his rope there, he was basically a boss yet felt like he was going into a gd war zone every morning all thanks to that proverbial cancer Daniel Ross just poisoning that back office. He got rid of Master Poe and then Steve and was probably working on Mars before finally getting the boot (it took him basically telling Scott friggin Greenstein to F off). And with Steve gone and no ones demise to plot look what type of shit that dude was doing: (as per the yt vid entitled Blind Stevie vs Danny) I mean the guy had some significant issues.
Imagine working with him and hearing that opening monologue, in that dweeby little voice just tattling on you in the most obviously petty and needling way and you can't hit him ...
i don’t think that’s the same thing. vacation days? yes, take them. but this was steve planning out his sick days in the future. those are no longer sick days, it’s turning sick days into vacation days.
Well he’s lying and he’s not just a low intern, you can’t take every Monday off with that responsibility, and it’s so obv he meant every Monday, then he tried to get sympathy that his wife was crying cause they were hammering him…..yeah ok. shut up n take your shit.
Seriously though, there is not one damn thing that Opie did that any college radio student in the country couldn't have done AT LEAST as well, for 1/100th the pay. Amazes me how he had any pull or bargaining power with management at all.
If HR says you're entitled to 75 days off, you should be able to take 75 days off with no repercussions. Also, Steve was being dishonest about his intentions.
Matthew Herzog you should be reimbursed the 75 days then, which would be insane, so taking 75 off and not getting paid is also insane, max 2 weeks I say, and not consecutive, and any days not taken by end of year should be paid out by company, 2 weeks max, wtf is this 75 day shit, what could you possibly do at a company to earn 75 days off?
SargentandGreenLeaf Like Opie, you didn't get what the issue was. They don't normally get that many days but after the merger Sirius changed the policy to stop allowing unused time to carry over, and gave them a time frame to use or lose their leftover days from XM. This was a one time thing.
Yeah basically Sirius fucked up, they tried to make the vacation policy better for the company but it backfired and they ended up _giving_ their former XM staff 10x more vacation than they would've normally had.
..... they all lived it he was just a baby, they all picked on each other worse, Steve contributed and acted like a psycho and pushed everyone away, then went crazy and offed himself because he couldn't handle any form of life. Lol not cuz someone one made fun of him
@@noneyag123 Steve's demeanor made it pretty abundantly clear that he struggled with huge insecurities and a negative self image, had untreated symptoms of major depression etc. and the reason he was there was because he probably had more passion and was more willing to work above and beyond for the actual show than anyone else on the staff. He started working for them as just a fan when he basically took it upon himself to try to handle their PR and website - something that the company constantly failed to fulfill their end of the bargain for. He made it clear that he was fine with mostly working alone if it meant that he wouldn't have to be exposed to the ball-busting that the drunken interns were fine with. Having mental issues which made him more sensitive to a hostile work environment does not make him a baby - I used to think he was a pansy when I heard his reactions to the jabs that people would give him, but then it became clear that he was never looking to enter that atmosphere or hog the mic etc. and did his thing with his audio productions, arranging guests, maintaining their outward online presence and publicity etc. etc. - Anyone with some social skill would start to notice that pretty quickly, and this makes for mostly very sad altercations to listen to as a result. You just can't look at a guy who's clearly incredibly sad, stressed and feels downright hated by everyone around him at work - which again I can't blame him for because the real top piece of st!t is Danny, a stirring, proudly alcoholic little worm who delights in sarcastically kicking easy targets and people like Steve down to a dehumanizing level, when they're already down, because that's how he deals with his own insecurity (or, you know, by throwing a tantrum when he loses a versus game of Guitar Hero). - Steve's mental health (which he obviously doesn't know how to express the issues of, as he just kept trying to push through it in America's terrible health care system, and which was clearly not successfully if at all treated and acknowledged even behind the scenes - something that he clearly needed help with because he was stuck in a self-loathing cycle) was such a clear reason for him to take the vacation days he built up through all his work, and perhaps, he felt somewhat optimistic about the mental rest that it would give him, so that he might ease some of his stress and anxiety for awhile... and even *then* the exploitative, greedy culture there conspired to make him feel as miserable and guilty as possible for trying to do something that he would've felt was healthy for himself and which he had a RIGHT to. One can only feel sorry for the fact that Steve provided so much work and picked up so much of the company's slack while mentally seemingly going through a constant breakdown in all areas of his life, because he had loyalty - and that he happened to not have the tools to deal with childishly heartless bullying (it becomes bullying when he clearly isn't part of the fun and just becomes a target which isn't part of his job or ambitions) to the point that he was finally unceremoniously laid off after his entire job title was scrapped so he could be thrown in the dirt for all the years he gave to the show - and that even though he had so much trouble with the social work environment, it was him losing that driving force, to work for the show, which made him kill himself soon after he was made to pack up and leave. That's how important the show, and working on it, was to him.
@@JohnnyNatriumI think you’re totally right. I think almost all of them on staff acknowledged how toxic it was to work there. Working with Opie and Danny had to add tons of stress, plus the early hours, which must severely fuck with someone’s sleep. Then he gets fired. That’s brutal.
@chip2854 well he created and contributed to whatever toxicity that existed by being just as abusive as everyone else......this guy is talking like a lot of people I know that were/are suicidal......so idk what to say to people like this, makes me nervous and worried
jennpenn5 if your coworker had sick days he had to use or he would lose them, and that pissed you off, you are a whiney little bitch. if the rolls were reversed you would do the same thing
I never said anything about him using all of his sick days. I said taking them on Monday (or Friday for that matter) every time so no one else can ever take that day off. That's selfish. And it's roles, not rolls.
or at the end of the year you get your sick days in a check and not fuck over your staff.. its pretty shitty if your staff isnt there doing what theyre hired to do. depends on how big your staff is but like most places, if you work there, youre probably needed.. I fucking hate doing more than I have to for a shit place and for some shit employee thats wants to pretend hes sick
Ant: "Oh Steve thinks he can fuck us huh? Probably can turn this into a decent bit of radio and have fun for a few minutes or so then we'll all move on." Op: "THIS IS A TRAVESTY! HOW DARE HE!! WHO DOES HE THINK HE IS?!?!!?" Jim: "Oh great, now I have to play moderator again."
Again people revising history. It wasn’t the fact that he was trying to get his days, it was the way he was doing it. And Steve was lying when he said that he didn’t think they would let him just take it a week at a time as vacation time. Every time he took a vacation no one said a damn thing to him. Taking every Monday off was bad for the show and that was their problem. Eric’s got shit for taking two weeks close together at one point but that was it, and that was mostly just a call him fat. Anytime anybody was out for a week or 10 days no one said anything to them. Steve knew they wouldn’t have a problem with him taking his days in that manner but he was lying about that like he was lying about almost everything else in this clip.
Opie is angry that Steve is not answering his phone on his day off, and yet when Erick answered his phone on his sick day and got angry, Opie's response was " well you should have kept you phone off". It's mind boggling how he just doesn't see his own hypocrisy .
Bro I'm not a fan of Opie either. He is hypocritical and a douche and all that shit but it's radio.. sometimes they just said whatever fit the situation.
Remember Opie. When everyone is around you having fun and making hilarious Ferris Bueller references, be sure to pipe in with your serious asides to kill the momentum.
Around 35:00 Opie starts trying to guilt them for taking literally any vacation by claiming that the time when the show was off should've been more than enough.
@@E101ification All of them took their vacation time and except for Eric, and it was a bit for the air, none of them ever took shit for any of it. Ever.
I'm speculating that Steve C was very burned out and actually decided to take all of his sick days then when the show wasn't okay with his decision he lied and said it wasn't going to be "for the foreseeable future" He had mental issues and depression and all of the staff was against him behind the scenes, Sam, Erock, Danny, Travis and so on were all against him and they even admitted that they tried to sabotage his work sometimes by giving him false information and messing with him. The hosts (Opie, Jim and Ant) were also constantly teasing him and nitpicking everything he did and he constantly had to defend everything he did which probably was a big strain on his psyche. (Opie was the only one of the hosts that took it very seriously though, Ant and Jim was mostly joking around) I think Steve wasn't meant for the leadership role he was more comfortable when he was the behind the scenes guy who did promos, the work environment on this show seems like it was extremely toxic sometimes.
oh god around 54 minutes this whole "peoblem" is exposed. Opie was offended that he was called out in an e mail, and big boy with his big bat needed to fight back.
Could you imagine emailing your boss and formally letting them know what you plan on doing, and then having them chew you out on air because they didn't even read your email.
shit like this happens...the only one taking it seriously in like a real way is Opie...everyone else is joking...and then when it's all said and done, Opie wonders why former employees always talk shit about him specifically
There's one show where Opie was babbling about unreasonable employers. He said so long as the work gets done on time it shouldn't matter to the employer if the employee is late to work or goes home early, and employers who are bothered by it are unreasonable cunts. Then in another show he's crucifying Erock for being habitually late. Erock uses that very same argument, pointing out that his work is getting done and getting done on time, and Opie says that doesn't matter, it's unprofessional and he should arrive on time. That's just one example of Opie exhibiting precisely the qualities he says he despises that I've caught over the years.
E101ification He yelled at Erock one time because he was sick and extra cunty that day. He obviously never cared that Erock was late everyday because he got away with it for a decade.
knowing what happened to steve, this is sad to listen to. of course i didn't know the guy. but i think everyone can relate to situations like this. where people are teaming up on you, coming from all sides and with different points. i would go crazy dealing with O&A when they get like this XD it sucks when someone is pestering you with who what wheres and whys, and you are trying to address a point made minutes before that. a cluster fuck of a situation i tell ya
The entire show taking a day off, minus the people who set up the worst-odd, isn’t screwing anybody. Missing the second most important day of the week every single week is much worse because it screws everybody that works for them and makes their jobs harder. Why do you think they had a problem with it? Not just the guys, but the staff? It puts everybody in a bad spot, he was the fucking executive producer. When they take every Friday off, when they did that, there would be a rotation of Friday staff so everybody would get some Fridays off with them. The staff never once complained about the show taking Fridays off because they weren’t screwed by it. They were screwed by Steve taking every Monday off. That’s why they brought it up to Opie who then takes the blame for addressing it.
@@awkwardoddysee4438 its not the takedowns so much as Steve being disposed of like trash in a trumped up attack on his vacation plans that could have easily been solved behind the scenes.
Its really sad listening to this , especially towards the end. You could hear the pain in Steves voice. Its so sad that he ended himself just a few years after this. He was such s good guy & the boys really did needle him to much
needle isn't this. they're literally all ganging up on him, on a WORK related issue, which has more stress to it than just making fun of someone for being fat or eating too much. it's making someone fear for their job. that's just evil. Sam is a damn weasel.
it's sorta morbid listening to these. in the erock/danny fight with steve, he was very obviously mentally unwell and stress was killing him at every angle.
Ope is at his absolute worst when he knows that others are on his side. He was so used to being the odd man out that he would go all in when he could finally join in on bashing someone else. Add to that how hard he is trying to be Howard with the way he yells at his staff, such a fascinating guy
Opie has his employees bring his luggage all the way down to Atlantic City and not even open the case then gets mad when they use their vacation time? I honestly can see why Steve decided to take all that time off and probably why he committed suicide. I hope Steve made the company pay him for all the vacation time he couldn't take because of this. On top of the they treat Steve like this then have the nerve to call him a "friend" after he died.
In fairness I think Opie paid all Sam's travel and hotel costs, and then some, in order to bring him his luggage. He didn't force Sam to do it, Sam did it voluntarily, and you could argue he wrangled a free weekend vacation out of it. But I agree about the way they treated Steve C. If Steve was a normal employee with a good working relationship with everybody and he decided to take all that time off I can see how people would be pissed - but they shat on him every single day for his entire career there. You can't abuse an employee/co-worker that much and then act surprised when they say "Fuck it, I'm taking all the time off I'm entitled to".
He was getting 350k a year to take a 4 day work week, not do the programming for the channel, not update their website, delete audio they could have used, turn people into HR, and stopped production for the show. I wonder why they were mad
Millard Filmore Anthony said that himself on his compound show. He said the EP for the show was a 350k a year salary. Erock wasn’t even EP and he said he was making 150k pre tax. Early satellite radio was just throwing money to sign everyone they could
Never liked Danny, used to hate Sam but he has grown on me over the years. He is great at being a shit stirring weasel or playing the straight man and taking everyone's abuse. Never did like Steve, Danny, Sal, or Troy. Just about everyone else I love or can at least appreciate, besides Roland, he stinks too.
I liked Sam in the old O&A days when he was a shit stirring, cocky asshole. Over the last two years he's really let hosting his own show go to his head. Now he talks about politics, current events and entertainment like his opinion is worth two fucks. I saw a clip of him on TH-cam reviewing a movie like he was some art critic and it wasn't tongue-in-cheek. He's just embarrassing now.
I feel like Steve was dealing with depression issues and hiding it from the staff. Probably tried to take the days off to deal with his issues. Knowing what happened inevitably, it isn't too much of a stretch to assume. But I bet the staff didn't know about those issues at this point. Just an opinion.
ladyz0e maybe but I'd like to know how to compartmentalize your depression into one day a week. Everyone is entitled to take mental health days lord knows, but not every week. Especially when you're an executive producer. Nope
Its depression. You can't just "decide" that today youre going to work and be productive and act "normal". Its not a cough or a cold that goes away with some pain killers. I hope you understand that. Theres a severe difference between "Mental Health Days" and "I am so depressed I can't see myself physically removing myself from my bed."
I'm guessing in your haste to reply and make your point, you either didn't really read or didn't really understand what I was trying to say. I'm saying that you cannot turn depression off and on based on day of the week. Agreeing with you really. I know this from experience so no need to school me further on the meaning/symptoms of depression.
I love how Steve immediately states when he comes in that hes not actually gonna take every monday off and its still a problem for the next hour and a half lol. Poor Steve
Good idea, on air tell the staff, show no respect for your boss. Tell staff, guests, the audience, that Steve has no power, he can't fire you. That should make for a great work environment.
I do agree with Steve on the point that there is a huge Lord of the Flies mentality in that studio, but it's not just sometimes, it's all the time. They are the most chaotic, disorganized, cannibalistic show in radio history. So I kind of feel bad for Steve taking the beating he did even though that it was wrong of him to say I'm gonna take off every possible Monday. He has stood up for the show quite often.
I think the real problem regarding Steve C was a self-fulfilling prophecy created mainly by Opie. Opie clearly had nothing but contempt for the guy, and that contempt allowed the other staff to have contempt for him with impunity. Opie and the staff would mercilessly ridicule Steve C and condemn his for his fuck ups, calling him useless and incompetent over and over. This got into Steve's head and made him terrified of going into work, terrified of fucking up, which ironically caused him to lose focus and fuck things up, and the cycle just went round and round. As much as they all ragged on him they really were just as much to blame for Steve C's incompetence as he was. It didn't help that he was despised by Danny, who for some reason was popular with other staff and had a lot of clout with the show. They talk about unprofessionalism but it really was unprofessional for them to just allow Danny to treat Steve C the way he did behind the scenes. No professional employer would tolerate that kind of working relationship without at least sitting down with the two of them and trying to work something out. But it led to good radio so the Opster didn't care.
“Steve’s lost me too…” that’s the line I’m guessing that had Mrs Steve C in tears - Opie and probably Eric/Jimmy and Sam to lesser extent were Steve’s only remaining allies there. The personification of slow ever-progressing leukemia that went by the pseudonym Daniel Ross had ensured by then that Steve’s work days were tantamount to war…and that poor lovable bear was all but ready to shut it all down and waive the white flag. This move here of just saying fuck it and utilizing all of his sick days by taking off every subsequent Monday was the move to get to that precipice. The whole thing where he stopped running their website and wanted to claim ownership to the show’s video catalog (may even have forced them to pay him for ownership) was Steve saluting, exclaiming “Your Mom’s Box”, and making the leap. Eh maybe I shouldn’t have used that analogy all shit considered, my fault
@@joeblow8379 na imo there was a significant difference between someone like Sam, who was a shit stirrer and ball buster for the good of the show…and to put himself over as well of course, but it was done in a funny light hearted way where you could justify still being his boy after. People like Danny were pos two faced saboteurs that were doing shit with complete malice, with the intent to really fuck someone over personally and professionally
Steve’s problem was he was scared of them for no reason. It’s very simple. “Sorry Opie, I have the days so I’m going to use them. I’m sure all of you guys who are also working men, can understand the desire to wanting to take Mondays off and if the company awarded me 51 paid sick days, I would be a fool to not use them.” Also I regards to not answering my phone, I would just tell the truth. I had off and I’m not a doctor, fireman, or police officer. I’m not on call, so I didn’t answer my phone. Kick rocks.”
Honestly that’s what I would’ve said I remember I had this issue when I was working for a cleaning company the employees under me had literally 50 paid sick days/ vacation days and the owner didn’t want them to use them but I said they’re legally allowed to you you can’t tell people when and how to use their time off that’s how you get sued
He did not know how to deal with this kind of passive aggressive bullying crap. He tensed up when confronted. Patrice even noticed how extreme what they were doing to him was
31:10 yeah Opie say it again, you'll be getting back to the jokes any second now. Also I think Steve was really trying to take off a year of Mondays, but to be teamed up on by both staff and talent and be humiliated on air was totally uncalled for.
Regardless of what the company should have done, if Steve had just admitted his email was misleading he could have avoided this whole situation. Instead he brings up points to subjects that weren't really relevant to try to save his ego. They were calling him to try and clarify and he didn't answer, I hate when people get caught lying and try to get out of it.
The only mistake Steve made was backpedaling. He should have said right to Opie’s face that he was going to be out every Monday until he used up all his days. Sorry but if the company gave it to him, Opie’s issue is with the company. Steve did them a solid by telling them to let him know if it was a problem. The reality is he didn’t have to. Opie crying about wishing he could take off every Monday is a joke too. Opie signed a contract and his contract has its own rules. They have nothing to do with Steve.
The staff had vacation time built up, and the company was just going to wipe it off the books? Is that even legal? Captain Opie should have been telling the suits to either pay them off or work out a schedule so they can use the time, not getting furious at the one guy with the sense enough to start taking days off.
47:29 Anthony is mathematically correct here. Steve's email gave a word-for-word description of an infinite sequence of Mondays. Cumia plays dumb but he got more out of his high school education than Opie got out of SUNY Geneseo
I think he meant this general attitude/status quo with Steve C and the other staff here. Opie clearly had nothing but contempt for the guy after this which would've been a huge factor in him getting fired. And working with a bunch of people who openly dislike you, some even hate you, who mercilessly humiliate you every day would, in all likelihood, have had an effect on his suicide.
Whenever I hear them gang up on Steve it really makes me think he was the only righteous (patrice O’Neal’s words) person on the staff. Everyone denying that the shows a toxic environment when it clearly was. For the life of me I don’t know why he stayed on staff there.
Money. People stay in horrible jobs because if they don't it creates more problems. Being trapped in a situation like this is classic suicide material, every day becomes torture. Suicide was the only way he felt he could escape constant extreme stress.
100% agree. Steve obviously wasn't perfect and self admittedly a head case, but righteous is the perfect word. He's the only one out of the whole crew of regulars that I think was a good person. The rest, including Jimmy and Ant all turned out to be varying degrees of scumbags
"What I say at staff meetings is pretty much just to get people off my back!" That really is an unbelievable thing to admit, especially at that moment. XD
This is why the underling sharks were always out for carlisi. When the boss will distort, lie and say anything to get out of an uncomfortable situation, it is impossible to respect. In this video he says he never knew they called him while he was out, then admits later he wasn't gonna call in to get his dick kicked in.
worst of it is O&A were on a salary from Sirius I think, so it's not like they were paying the O&A staff out of their own pocket - they were all company men/employees. This is HR's issue
Steve wasn’t fit to be a people manager. Especially is such an environment. I liked Steve but he was contradicting himself in this conversation so much.
While I could see a new listener tuning out of this.. .This episode is a great example of why this show was so great for long time listeners. You knew so much about the entire staff, their quirks, faults, that it felt like you were a part of hilarious family arguments. Staff drama gave me some of my biggest laughs.
Love that this is back up because I never got to hear this much from Steve. Opie should feel responsible for why this poor guy hated his life but of course I'm sure he does not.
Really? And not Anthony? Anthony's behind the scenes boyfriend, Danny Ross, was allowed to bully Steve incessantly with no repercussions because he was over Ants house after the show with his mouth full.
@@hilltop4847 Yeah that's a good point. That stupid guy got away with murder constantly just so Ant could have a drinking buddy. Hated him on the show too.
Opie whining about him not getting a ton of days off is ridiculous. How about you made 200-300 times the money that the staff made. Also, I’m convinced that there was consciously no actual chain of command, so they could keep the office in constant turmoil for show fodder. Danny should have been fired long before this. Why would anyone want to be in charge if nobody is required to follow their directions when there is no consequences?
" Holy shit it i wish i could do that" says the man who lives in a multi million dollar appartement with a trophy wife and at the time a six-figure salary. facepalm.. and infuriating.
It’s kinda crazy, cause Steve sounds like he’s the only one with good work ethic there and is actually a decent dude. Much as I like Jimmy & Ant they’re just radio personalities as opposed to having to coordinate him
It's such a shame we couldn't have heard Steve on more shows, and that he didn't get to do new things after O&A. Would've been fun to see where he is now.
I just found out Steve killed himself. That makes this really sad. This is a really boring show. I can't even finish this one. I love the show, but, I really don't care if one of the behind the scenes guys wants to take time off.
I don't understand how this non-issue went on for so long. "We thought you were taking every Monday off." "I'm not." "But we thought you were." "I'm not." "But we thought you were." Fucking draining.
Knowing Steve commits suicide. This is hard to listen to now. It’s still funny as hell but you can hear Steve breaking down. Reminds me of when Patrice noticed it and asked Steve if he was ok. The signs were there unfortunately you never really notice them until it’s to late. Rip Steve
In any sane universe, people would correctly judge that both Opie and Steve are wrong in this situation, but Opie is so obnoxious that we feel sorry for Steve.
Does he suck or is he so crucial that he can't take Monday's off? If the show runs so much better when he's not there, why do they care? Opie is being awful, but Sam (his subordinate) is worse. Constantly bullied, ended up opting out. Are they wholly responsible? No. But it didn't help.
I thought Opie said that Steve C is shit and cant do shit right. "He might as well not be here". This is all Opie needed to get Steve C fired. Steve was fired just a few months later
Yeah but people who take advantage of the rules and hide behind legal/union rules are the worst people to work with in my opinion. I’ve been paying union dues since I was 18. *Sniff
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If the company wasn't going to do the right thing and pay them for their vacation time they had every right to use it. Steve did nothing wrong.
It’s not vacation time it’s sick days.
@@justinsidious9772 It's Vacation and Sick days. And where I have worked if you have unused of either at the end of the year or the end of your time working with them, they pay you out.
You’re not factoring in the fact that he’s the guy that technically is the boss behind the scenes and he isn’t there every Monday.
@@Buckets50 That is the company's fault for giving a "boss" 70 days of paid off-time. I never heard of a company doing roll-over time like XM did. Opie was also pissed that Steve wouldn't work a second job for free (maintain their website)
@@lithium23 yea we all know opie is ridiculous. All I’m saying is Steve is basically pawning off all of his Monday work on his subordinates and is then befuddled by everyone being pissed at him.
It’s an oversight on XMs part sure but it’s more of a dick move by Steve to do it. His solution is that everyone should take a day a week off and create even more of a work flow log jam.
Opie was the only one taking this seriously. Jimmy and Ant were just going along, because if they didn't, Opie would sink into a shitty mood and ruin the show for a week.
Well now they can complain about Opie taking every day of the week off from radio haha
Ok I’m all for disliking Opie but Jimmy and Ant would come in with shit moods too
@@johnochiltree1170 those are the days we get Jimmy bomb compilations or jim making characters about ants rants. Like racist uncle Paul.
I mean it really isn’t that big of a deal haha, who wouldn’t take every single Monday off if they could. It literally gave them bashing Steve material
Gregg was a total female here. Really embarrassing power-trip behavior
I’ll never get tired of Anthony’s Steve impression
YEESS
Even in death, Stephen Carr couldn't escape the infamous Steve voice. One time, Anthony did the voice after Steve's sad passing, "Yeasss! In a ghoost. BOOOOO!"
It is a hilarious impression. Too good to die with Steve.
I can't believe Steve never came into the station with an ax and a flamethrower and lit the whole thing up.
Yeah, I mean if he was going out anyway he might as well.
@@harrydrake4173he was hanging around
He imploded as opposed to exploding. So idk, in my opinion it shows he cared for people to a degree because he just checked himself out and didn't bring anyone with him.
Erock got messed with way more!
@@The-Real-Skinny-BobAnd Erock seemed to bottle it up too. Steve was too sensitive for this bunch. He took things too personal.
Opie: Our guys are underpaid and mistreated by the company.
Also Opie: YOU CANT USE YOUR TIME OFF WTF!?!?!?!
Turns out he was the company.....until he wasn't
No I think the issue was that he was going to take every Monday off. That’s really bad for the show. Tell you what, why don’t you go ahead and try to takeoff the next 52 Mondays at your work and tell me what happens.
@@spookypizza4371I would love to. If my company told me I had 51 paid days off that I need to use, I would use them. What kind of idiot wouldn’t?
@@enjoyer6201 If my job gave it 52 days...sounds good
Would they prefer if he took two months straight off, or....? Just give up free money like a good corporate stooge? Why don't you go work double shifts at your job (one for free, of course) show them what a good worker you are
You know someone is full of shit when they use the phrase "to be perfectly honest with you" 150 times in one conversation.
jennpenn5 ...yep
I've noticed something Steve does a lot, too - whenever somebody makes an absolutely valid, inarguable point against him he says "I know, I completely understand...." and then he'll proceed to explain why he's still right without ever actually addressing the other person's point. It actually becomes infuriating after a while.
@@E101ificationAnd he always talks about his genitals getting smashed or kicked or crushed as an analogy for getting chewed out or chastised by his coworkers.
Rest In Peace Steve the pests loved you man
In fairness to Steve C it is kind of crazy the way they're all insisting he's paranoid for thinking people are against him and out to get him when literally the previous day they're all bragging and laughing about how they deliberately feed Steve false information so he fucks up in his job. And Opie was literally encouraging his staff to disrespect Steve C and was actually mocking Erock for _not_ disrespecting him.
I'm not saying Steve C wasn't wrong in the overall argument but the cognitive dissonance of Opie and the other staff is pretty astounding.
Agree 100%
And Opie is just a fucking piece of garbage tbh.
Yeah it's pretty much bullshit that no one owned up to that. Jimmy's an honest guy, and wax surprising that he didn't bring it up. Didn't go back to listen, but maybe he wasn't there that day.
Opie was the most oblivious douche ever. He pitted the staff against each other and threw them under the bus when it suited him and then complained when they hated him.
@@randommanwill802 yeah if Opie had showed the slightest bit of loyalty or humanity over his career he would not be as hated as he is now. Sometimes you get what you deserve.
People who Opie thought he was better than or had power over.. Only those people since they usually wouldn't fight back and he could feel better about his untalented self. Right place right time and Anthony who was the show w/ comedians.
I love how Opie acted like this for his entire career and currently wonders why people hate him.
hes the responsible one.
Exactly! He was a terror.
He doesn't wonder he knows why, CAUSE ANTHONY TALKED ABOUT ME BEHIND MY BACK WHO DOES THAT
Yeah he went out of his way to provoke Antony andand Jim. It’s psychopath shit
I hate Opie on this one even more than usual. He sucks peckahs
If I were Steve I would have ended this conversation with “btw I will be taking the next 51 days off, I will see you all in September”
Millionaire hosts complaining about the regular staff taking vacation days.
They should've lobbied for their staff to get paid out for unused vacation/sick days, and if they couldn't do it then they should've paid them out of pocket to keep the staff happy and the show running.
@mastafull radio hosts NEVER come out of their own pocket lmao it's scummy af. Like how every time howard would get an idea for some event or contest he always complained about the company not wanting to fund it lmao even if it was like a 20k prize or something else that howard makes in seconds
In Ant and Jim's defense, they are just making jokes out of the situation. Opie, on the other hand, was actually serious about being mad.
@@PlaGueR3FLEX No lol they were less angry but absolutely still not on team Steve
@@PlaGueR3FLEXDanny and Travis were acting pretty salty
Crikey, Opie really was the hole all along.
Dannys 2 arguments based on what benefits him at the time.
1- This is a place of business act professional, Steve
2- This is the O and A show, learn to take a joke, Steve
Steve should have punched everybodys lights out and taken a years worth of mondays off. Give a guy break.
Was a gentle gay bear haha
A break from what? I mean, yeah, they abused him a lot, but I always got the impression he really did bring it on himself. He always presented even himself in a terrible, incompetent light. I mean seriously he gets caught out on lies covering for laziness almost every appearance.
He should just say, "they're my vacation days, go fuck yourself".
They did. And he took advantage of them. Some people are like this. Haha the last and most ridiculous example of steve c shenanigans was even after he was fired he didn't inform any sponsors and movie studios that he was let go and kept recieving all the swag they sent the b-b-b-boys
He sucked at his actual job but his contribution was being shit on. His fault for sticking around
Benny Hath he delivered some great bits like Ramone. He was a good producer.
Damn, they really treated Steve like shit, he was talking about how toxic the work environment is, and they all turned it around on him, nowadays some of the staff have admitted to how bad it was with the staff, and around the office.
RIP Steve.
Danny is a complete fggot, and I would love to tell that j-bag to his face before I crack him in his kayak nose.
@@nortonman5238he was weak and culled himself from the herd. Be thankful
Not only should Steve have taken his days he should’ve scheduled them on days they really needed him
He should have told Opie to fuck off and he's taking his earned vacation time
And that attitude is why he got fired. Work is mostly politics.
@@justinsidious9772 I just think they way they constantly fucked with him did no favors for his self esteem. I get that’s the nature of the show but there were a couple of bits when you can hear him spiraling
@@justinsidious9772 idk if you know this, but what really started the rift between steve and the show is that he refused to just hand them over the rights to the o&a video content he shot, compiled, and hosted on his own website foundrymusic - at his own cost.
because he wanted to negotiate some kind of payout for all the work he produced - work that was beyond his pay grade; work that helped catapult the show into mainstream success - HE was the selfish money-grubbing rat.
not any of the other know-nothings and do-nothings on staff. not the hosts, who were too stupid to consider posting video content online to market their own show. nope - all of a sudden, it was steve’s problem. he was no longer their friend; he became all these things you hear them say about him in the bits.
o&a were always greedy lazy pigs that coasted off the hard work of others while they themselves contributed as little as they possibly could. they belong in hell.
Which was never ?
Leave it to Opie to drag everything down with his bitching when Jim and Ant are getting the point across with humor and talent.
Listening to this is depressing knowing Steve eventually committed suicide. I think Steve was thrust into the producers position (after Ben Sparks was fired) which wasn't really his skill set. He was good at making audio that the show used (Ramone, "that's terrible, I'm sorry") and talking on air. He was not good at managing and directing people. On top of that stress he knew half the staff didn't like him, and that Anthony's best friend Danny absolutely despised him and always threw passive aggressive jabs - like rolling his eyes like a 14 year old girl every time Steve spoke. He tried taking as many Monday's off as possible because he hated his job.
Chris Palmer well thought out assessment; Steve was legit at end of his rope there, he was basically a boss yet felt like he was going into a gd war zone every morning all thanks to that proverbial cancer Daniel Ross just poisoning that back office. He got rid of Master Poe and then Steve and was probably working on Mars before finally getting the boot (it took him basically telling Scott friggin Greenstein to F off). And with Steve gone and no ones demise to plot look what type of shit that dude was doing: (as per the yt vid entitled Blind Stevie vs Danny) I mean the guy had some significant issues.
If Danny had ended like Steve did no one would miss him.
It didn't help that his staff actively undermined him with Opie encouraging it. He literally says it in this clip.
@@joshgard205 Danny was a prick, I always believed.
@@robertfullchim923 lol. Right. I hated that Anthony liked Danny and would stick up for the dick. Danny had way more balls knowing ant had is back.
I come back to this video at least once per quarter. It helps me
Sam's passive aggressiveness in order to slither his way to Steve's job was priceless!
Literally every word that comes out of his mouth is loaded with contempt. Fucking ghoul
He's not somebody I would ever be friends with, he's a slimeball
Sam is literally the worst.
Imagine working with him and hearing that opening monologue, in that dweeby little voice just tattling on you in the most obviously petty and needling way and you can't hit him ...
@@4L3X3M It's modern American corporate capitalism personified.
Steve is in heaven now eating ridiculous sized food and chilling every Monday.
"Everyday is Monday in Heaven"
-Steve C
God rest his ridiculous fucking soul
*Yes.* It's wonderful up here.
Still haunting the sh1t out of Sam and his real father.
@@cracksuperman don't get to heaven the way he went out. No heaven just heavy.
The part at 1:24:11 is really sad considering how Steve ended. Sensitive Jim saw the warning signs.
+Angela Benedetto must be the Adorable Huggable Boy Disorder
Angela...car crash
+Mitchael Hollingsworth - He was cured of that.
How Steve ended hahahhh
E101ification lol Ant casually fires that retort off with a full mouth of food n it was glorious
Opie trying his hardest to sound like Howard here.
For anyone not on Steve's side, imagine you have 60 hours of vacation time and being told by your boss you're not allowed to.
i don’t think that’s the same thing. vacation days? yes, take them. but this was steve planning out his sick days in the future. those are no longer sick days, it’s turning sick days into vacation days.
Exactly right. And he was being a good guy telling the underlings to do the same.
@@kevinquatman4068 I’d listen again before trying to correct people dummy.
@@kevinquatman4068 it was both sick and vacation time.
Well he’s lying and he’s not just a low intern, you can’t take every Monday off with that responsibility, and it’s so obv he meant every Monday, then he tried to get sympathy that his wife was crying cause they were hammering him…..yeah ok. shut up n take your shit.
I love any clips of Opie crying like a child over the fact that his staff, who make 1/1000th of his salary were taking their vacation days.
Hey now, I'm sure the staff made an entire 1% of Opie's salary!
Seriously though, there is not one damn thing that Opie did that any college radio student in the country couldn't have done AT LEAST as well, for 1/100th the pay. Amazes me how he had any pull or bargaining power with management at all.
Opies a bitch
@@JR-lv9nb Opie is your GOD and you will respect his genius!!!!!!!!
@@justing7490 lol hes a bitch. You're a bitch . Erock is a bitch . And so is sam lol
If HR says you're entitled to 75 days off, you should be able to take 75 days off with no repercussions. Also, Steve was being dishonest about his intentions.
Matthew Herzog you should be reimbursed the 75 days then, which would be insane, so taking 75 off and not getting paid is also insane, max 2 weeks I say, and not consecutive, and any days not taken by end of year should be paid out by company, 2 weeks max, wtf is this 75 day shit, what could you possibly do at a company to earn 75 days off?
SargentandGreenLeaf You need to repeat fifth grade so you can learn what a sentence is.
read the words, and don't cry
SargentandGreenLeaf Like Opie, you didn't get what the issue was. They don't normally get that many days but after the merger Sirius changed the policy to stop allowing unused time to carry over, and gave them a time frame to use or lose their leftover days from XM. This was a one time thing.
Yeah basically Sirius fucked up, they tried to make the vacation policy better for the company but it backfired and they ended up _giving_ their former XM staff 10x more vacation than they would've normally had.
Steve was a soldier for these guys simply for the fact he didn’t sue for an obvious hostile work environment
..... they all lived it he was just a baby, they all picked on each other worse, Steve contributed and acted like a psycho and pushed everyone away, then went crazy and offed himself because he couldn't handle any form of life. Lol not cuz someone one made fun of him
@@noneyag123 Steve's demeanor made it pretty abundantly clear that he struggled with huge insecurities and a negative self image, had untreated symptoms of major depression etc. and the reason he was there was because he probably had more passion and was more willing to work above and beyond for the actual show than anyone else on the staff.
He started working for them as just a fan when he basically took it upon himself to try to handle their PR and website - something that the company constantly failed to fulfill their end of the bargain for. He made it clear that he was fine with mostly working alone if it meant that he wouldn't have to be exposed to the ball-busting that the drunken interns were fine with.
Having mental issues which made him more sensitive to a hostile work environment does not make him a baby - I used to think he was a pansy when I heard his reactions to the jabs that people would give him, but then it became clear that he was never looking to enter that atmosphere or hog the mic etc. and did his thing with his audio productions, arranging guests, maintaining their outward online presence and publicity etc. etc. - Anyone with some social skill would start to notice that pretty quickly, and this makes for mostly very sad altercations to listen to as a result.
You just can't look at a guy who's clearly incredibly sad, stressed and feels downright hated by everyone around him at work - which again I can't blame him for because the real top piece of st!t is Danny, a stirring, proudly alcoholic little worm who delights in sarcastically kicking easy targets and people like Steve down to a dehumanizing level, when they're already down, because that's how he deals with his own insecurity (or, you know, by throwing a tantrum when he loses a versus game of Guitar Hero).
- Steve's mental health (which he obviously doesn't know how to express the issues of, as he just kept trying to push through it in America's terrible health care system, and which was clearly not successfully if at all treated and acknowledged even behind the scenes - something that he clearly needed help with because he was stuck in a self-loathing cycle) was such a clear reason for him to take the vacation days he built up through all his work, and perhaps, he felt somewhat optimistic about the mental rest that it would give him, so that he might ease some of his stress and anxiety for awhile... and even *then* the exploitative, greedy culture there conspired to make him feel as miserable and guilty as possible for trying to do something that he would've felt was healthy for himself and which he had a RIGHT to.
One can only feel sorry for the fact that Steve provided so much work and picked up so much of the company's slack while mentally seemingly going through a constant breakdown in all areas of his life, because he had loyalty - and that he happened to not have the tools to deal with childishly heartless bullying (it becomes bullying when he clearly isn't part of the fun and just becomes a target which isn't part of his job or ambitions) to the point that he was finally unceremoniously laid off after his entire job title was scrapped so he could be thrown in the dirt for all the years he gave to the show - and that even though he had so much trouble with the social work environment, it was him losing that driving force, to work for the show, which made him kill himself soon after he was made to pack up and leave. That's how important the show, and working on it, was to him.
@JohnnyNatrium You sound like you need to speak to someone honestly
@@JohnnyNatriumI think you’re totally right. I think almost all of them on staff acknowledged how toxic it was to work there. Working with Opie and Danny had to add tons of stress, plus the early hours, which must severely fuck with someone’s sleep. Then he gets fired. That’s brutal.
@chip2854 well he created and contributed to whatever toxicity that existed by being just as abusive as everyone else......this guy is talking like a lot of people I know that were/are suicidal......so idk what to say to people like this, makes me nervous and worried
Love Opie talking about how "insulting" it is for somebody to take off one day every week.
If my co-worker got a three day weekend every week and I had to do their job, I would be furious. That's kind of a shitty thing to do.
jennpenn5 if your coworker had sick days he had to use or he would lose them, and that pissed you off, you are a whiney little bitch. if the rolls were reversed you would do the same thing
I never said anything about him using all of his sick days. I said taking them on Monday (or Friday for that matter) every time so no one else can ever take that day off. That's selfish.
And it's roles, not rolls.
***** yep you got me I used the wrong spelling of a word. So the day he chose was the problem...Yeah that's rational
or at the end of the year you get your sick days in a check and not fuck over your staff.. its pretty shitty if your staff isnt there doing what theyre hired to do. depends on how big your staff is but like most places, if you work there, youre probably needed.. I fucking hate doing more than I have to for a shit place and for some shit employee thats wants to pretend hes sick
Ant: "Oh Steve thinks he can fuck us huh? Probably can turn this into a decent bit of radio and have fun for a few minutes or so then we'll all move on."
Op: "THIS IS A TRAVESTY! HOW DARE HE!! WHO DOES HE THINK HE IS?!?!!?"
Jim: "Oh great, now I have to play moderator again."
steve was totally in the right, you get your days you take em. maybe opie could have just paid him for the days if it was such a problem
That's the fix right there; they could have paid him for them.
Again people revising history. It wasn’t the fact that he was trying to get his days, it was the way he was doing it. And Steve was lying when he said that he didn’t think they would let him just take it a week at a time as vacation time. Every time he took a vacation no one said a damn thing to him. Taking every Monday off was bad for the show and that was their problem. Eric’s got shit for taking two weeks close together at one point but that was it, and that was mostly just a call him fat. Anytime anybody was out for a week or 10 days no one said anything to them. Steve knew they wouldn’t have a problem with him taking his days in that manner but he was lying about that like he was lying about almost everything else in this clip.
for the for seeeeeeeeeeeeeable future ? Nope!
Opie is angry that Steve is not answering his phone on his day off, and yet when Erick answered his phone on his sick day and got angry, Opie's response was " well you should have kept you phone off". It's mind boggling how he just doesn't see his own hypocrisy .
Bit of a stretch there.
Opie will never be self aware
Completely lacking in self awareness. It's so wild to listen to, it's amazing he wasn't called out for this more often
Bro I'm not a fan of Opie either. He is hypocritical and a douche and all that shit but it's radio.. sometimes they just said whatever fit the situation.
wow it's like he had an on-air personality, you dummy. King Gregg forgive you
Remember Opie. When everyone is around you having fun and making hilarious Ferris Bueller references, be sure to pipe in with your serious asides to kill the momentum.
He really was a master at it, wasn't he?
Opie killing the flow of the show
"Before the next.....er.....brilliance of....comedy....."
I fucking despise him.
Opie was the only one taking this seriously. Everyone else was joking around about this.
Can here a few Gregshells cracking in this one 😂
Around 35:00 Opie starts trying to guilt them for taking literally any vacation by claiming that the time when the show was off should've been more than enough.
Yeah, which basically means they have to plan all their lives around the weeks the show is off. Opie is pathetic.
He probably got more money if they didn't claim. He's such a pussy.
@@E101ification All of them took their vacation time and except for Eric, and it was a bit for the air, none of them ever took shit for any of it. Ever.
YOU SHUT IT!
I'm speculating that Steve C was very burned out and actually decided to take all of his sick days then when the show wasn't okay with his decision he lied and said it wasn't going to be "for the foreseeable future"
He had mental issues and depression and all of the staff was against him behind the scenes, Sam, Erock, Danny, Travis and so on were all against him and they even admitted that they tried to sabotage his work sometimes by giving him false information and messing with him.
The hosts (Opie, Jim and Ant) were also constantly teasing him and nitpicking everything he did and he constantly had to defend everything he did which probably was a big strain on his psyche.
(Opie was the only one of the hosts that took it very seriously though, Ant and Jim was mostly joking around)
I think Steve wasn't meant for the leadership role he was more comfortable when he was the behind the scenes guy who did promos, the work environment on this show seems like it was extremely toxic sometimes.
oh god around 54 minutes this whole "peoblem" is exposed. Opie was offended that he was called out in an e mail, and big boy with his big bat needed to fight back.
brice cate What are you talking about? He wasn't called out?
@@jennpenn5 shut up opie
Steve should've sued and left the company he would've been alive today, he dealy with SOO MUCH SHIT
Could you imagine emailing your boss and formally letting them know what you plan on doing, and then having them chew you out on air because they didn't even read your email.
Did you not listen to the clip? Yes some of them read it, and they got a different email than the one Steve sent out to the executives.
shit like this happens...the only one taking it seriously in like a real way is Opie...everyone else is joking...and then when it's all said and done, Opie wonders why former employees always talk shit about him specifically
There's one show where Opie was babbling about unreasonable employers. He said so long as the work gets done on time it shouldn't matter to the employer if the employee is late to work or goes home early, and employers who are bothered by it are unreasonable cunts. Then in another show he's crucifying Erock for being habitually late. Erock uses that very same argument, pointing out that his work is getting done and getting done on time, and Opie says that doesn't matter, it's unprofessional and he should arrive on time.
That's just one example of Opie exhibiting precisely the qualities he says he despises that I've caught over the years.
E101ification He yelled at Erock one time because he was sick and extra cunty that day. He obviously never cared that Erock was late everyday because he got away with it for a decade.
Welcome to the machine
He's literally jealous about it. He's such a child.
knowing what happened to steve, this is sad to listen to. of course i didn't know the guy. but i think everyone can relate to situations like this. where people are teaming up on you, coming from all sides and with different points. i would go crazy dealing with O&A when they get like this XD
it sucks when someone is pestering you with who what wheres and whys, and you are trying to address a point made minutes before that.
a cluster fuck of a situation i tell ya
This video is basically:
Radio gold, Opie talking, radio gold, Opie talking, radio gold...
So is every O&A youtube video.
@@car-ls8uc Considering I hate Opie's guts for being the unfunny narcissist that he is, I'm sure I wouldn't know.
What an odd question.
Did you know he's been doing this since 18 years old? I'm not sure if he ever mentioned that.
@1 2 RRAY DEE OHH
I didn't have a problem with the show taking Fridays off, until I heard this clip. They now sound so hypocritical.
The difference being the boss decides when to take a day, the second in command doesn't.
The entire show taking a day off, minus the people who set up the worst-odd, isn’t screwing anybody. Missing the second most important day of the week every single week is much worse because it screws everybody that works for them and makes their jobs harder. Why do you think they had a problem with it? Not just the guys, but the staff? It puts everybody in a bad spot, he was the fucking executive producer. When they take every Friday off, when they did that, there would be a rotation of Friday staff so everybody would get some Fridays off with them. The staff never once complained about the show taking Fridays off because they weren’t screwed by it. They were screwed by Steve taking every Monday off. That’s why they brought it up to Opie who then takes the blame for addressing it.
what a wonderful work environment Opie has created...evert ex employee hates him, not Ant, with a passion. He definitely had a hand in his suicide.
Wait Steve c killed himself!!!!???? I thought he just died
@@marissac870 yes, it was a suicide. looking back the show did bring him down a LOT.
Oh wow!
@@awkwardoddysee4438 its not the takedowns so much as Steve being disposed of like trash in a trumped up attack on his vacation plans that could have easily been solved behind the scenes.
The fact Opie thought this was a "cute bit" after being a douche for 2 hours is very telling what kind of person Opie is.
"So forth and so on" destroys Steve's entire argument.
Its really sad listening to this , especially towards the end. You could hear the pain in Steves voice. Its so sad that he ended himself just a few years after this. He was such s good guy & the boys really did needle him to much
needle isn't this. they're literally all ganging up on him, on a WORK related issue, which has more stress to it than just making fun of someone for being fat or eating too much. it's making someone fear for their job. that's just evil. Sam is a damn weasel.
it's sorta morbid listening to these. in the erock/danny fight with steve, he was very obviously mentally unwell and stress was killing him at every angle.
He should have told them, "I am no longer going to take off Mondays. I am going to take off every Tuesday instead."
Jim already said it.
Ope is at his absolute worst when he knows that others are on his side. He was so used to being the odd man out that he would go all in when he could finally join in on bashing someone else.
Add to that how hard he is trying to be Howard with the way he yells at his staff, such a fascinating guy
Opie has his employees bring his luggage all the way down to Atlantic City and not even open the case then gets mad when they use their vacation time? I honestly can see why Steve decided to take all that time off and probably why he committed suicide. I hope Steve made the company pay him for all the vacation time he couldn't take because of this.
On top of the they treat Steve like this then have the nerve to call him a "friend" after he died.
In fairness I think Opie paid all Sam's travel and hotel costs, and then some, in order to bring him his luggage. He didn't force Sam to do it, Sam did it voluntarily, and you could argue he wrangled a free weekend vacation out of it. But I agree about the way they treated Steve C. If Steve was a normal employee with a good working relationship with everybody and he decided to take all that time off I can see how people would be pissed - but they shat on him every single day for his entire career there. You can't abuse an employee/co-worker that much and then act surprised when they say "Fuck it, I'm taking all the time off I'm entitled to".
He was getting 350k a year to take a 4 day work week, not do the programming for the channel, not update their website, delete audio they could have used, turn people into HR, and stopped production for the show. I wonder why they were mad
@@TheWillrocks51 lol he was not getting paid that much dude
Millard Filmore Anthony said that himself on his compound show. He said the EP for the show was a 350k a year salary. Erock wasn’t even EP and he said he was making 150k pre tax. Early satellite radio was just throwing money to sign everyone they could
I would kill myself if I had to work with opie tbh
This clip has me hating Danny all over again.
Really got me hating Sam
Never liked Danny, used to hate Sam but he has grown on me over the years. He is great at being a shit stirring weasel or playing the straight man and taking everyone's abuse. Never did like Steve, Danny, Sal, or Troy. Just about everyone else I love or can at least appreciate, besides Roland, he stinks too.
FU UTUBE I
Why? They are all being equally shitty, including Steve.
I liked Sam in the old O&A days when he was a shit stirring, cocky asshole. Over the last two years he's really let hosting his own show go to his head. Now he talks about politics, current events and entertainment like his opinion is worth two fucks. I saw a clip of him on TH-cam reviewing a movie like he was some art critic and it wasn't tongue-in-cheek. He's just embarrassing now.
I feel like Steve was dealing with depression issues and hiding it from the staff. Probably tried to take the days off to deal with his issues. Knowing what happened inevitably, it isn't too much of a stretch to assume. But I bet the staff didn't know about those issues at this point. Just an opinion.
ladyz0e maybe but I'd like to know how to compartmentalize your depression into one day a week. Everyone is entitled to take mental health days lord knows, but not every week. Especially when you're an executive producer. Nope
Its depression. You can't just "decide" that today youre going to work and be productive and act "normal". Its not a cough or a cold that goes away with some pain killers. I hope you understand that. Theres a severe difference between "Mental Health Days" and "I am so depressed I can't see myself physically removing myself from my bed."
I'm guessing in your haste to reply and make your point, you either didn't really read or didn't really understand what I was trying to say. I'm saying that you cannot turn depression off and on based on day of the week. Agreeing with you really. I know this from experience so no need to school me further on the meaning/symptoms of depression.
Seems we had a misunderstanding pal.
no problem friend.
Opie is so obnoxiously jealous to the point of cringe
I love how Steve immediately states when he comes in that hes not actually gonna take every monday off and its still a problem for the next hour and a half lol. Poor Steve
Good idea, on air tell the staff, show no respect for your boss. Tell staff, guests, the audience, that Steve has no power, he can't fire you. That should make for a great work environment.
I do agree with Steve on the point that there is a huge Lord of the Flies mentality in that studio, but it's not just sometimes, it's all the time. They are the most chaotic, disorganized, cannibalistic show in radio history. So I kind of feel bad for Steve taking the beating he did even though that it was wrong of him to say I'm gonna take off every possible Monday. He has stood up for the show quite often.
I think the real problem regarding Steve C was a self-fulfilling prophecy created mainly by Opie. Opie clearly had nothing but contempt for the guy, and that contempt allowed the other staff to have contempt for him with impunity. Opie and the staff would mercilessly ridicule Steve C and condemn his for his fuck ups, calling him useless and incompetent over and over. This got into Steve's head and made him terrified of going into work, terrified of fucking up, which ironically caused him to lose focus and fuck things up, and the cycle just went round and round. As much as they all ragged on him they really were just as much to blame for Steve C's incompetence as he was.
It didn't help that he was despised by Danny, who for some reason was popular with other staff and had a lot of clout with the show. They talk about unprofessionalism but it really was unprofessional for them to just allow Danny to treat Steve C the way he did behind the scenes. No professional employer would tolerate that kind of working relationship without at least sitting down with the two of them and trying to work something out. But it led to good radio so the Opster didn't care.
Fast forward to 2016 the Opster has taken most of august and September off.
Fast forward to 2018 and he's taken the last 2 years off, the hypocrite!
they bullied steves ass so hard
The way they treated Steve is criminal
Thanks again Jayson for another classic O&A video! Please keep uploading these amazing videos for the "foreseeable future"!!
“Steve’s lost me too…” that’s the line I’m guessing that had Mrs Steve C in tears - Opie and probably Eric/Jimmy and Sam to lesser extent were Steve’s only remaining allies there. The personification of slow ever-progressing leukemia that went by the pseudonym Daniel Ross had ensured by then that Steve’s work days were tantamount to war…and that poor lovable bear was all but ready to shut it all down and waive the white flag. This move here of just saying fuck it and utilizing all of his sick days by taking off every subsequent Monday was the move to get to that precipice. The whole thing where he stopped running their website and wanted to claim ownership to the show’s video catalog (may even have forced them to pay him for ownership) was Steve saluting, exclaiming “Your Mom’s Box”, and making the leap. Eh maybe I shouldn’t have used that analogy all shit considered, my fault
Sam is nobody's "ally". He is a snake
@@joeblow8379 na imo there was a significant difference between someone like Sam, who was a shit stirrer and ball buster for the good of the show…and to put himself over as well of course, but it was done in a funny light hearted way where you could justify still being his boy after. People like Danny were pos two faced saboteurs that were doing shit with complete malice, with the intent to really fuck someone over personally and professionally
Greggshells.
Steve’s problem was he was scared of them for no reason. It’s very simple.
“Sorry Opie, I have the days so I’m going to use them. I’m sure all of you guys who are also working men, can understand the desire to wanting to take Mondays off and if the company awarded me 51 paid sick days, I would be a fool to not use them.”
Also I regards to not answering my phone, I would just tell the truth. I had off and I’m not a doctor, fireman, or police officer. I’m not on call, so I didn’t answer my phone. Kick rocks.”
Honestly that’s what I would’ve said I remember I had this issue when I was working for a cleaning company the employees under me had literally 50 paid sick days/ vacation days and the owner didn’t want them to use them but I said they’re legally allowed to you you can’t tell people when and how to use their time off that’s how you get sued
He did not know how to deal with this kind of passive aggressive bullying crap. He tensed up when confronted. Patrice even noticed how extreme what they were doing to him was
31:10 yeah Opie say it again, you'll be getting back to the jokes any second now. Also I think Steve was really trying to take off a year of Mondays, but to be teamed up on by both staff and talent and be humiliated on air was totally uncalled for.
Regardless of what the company should have done, if Steve had just admitted his email was misleading he could have avoided this whole situation. Instead he brings up points to subjects that weren't really relevant to try to save his ego. They were calling him to try and clarify and he didn't answer, I hate when people get caught lying and try to get out of it.
The only mistake Steve made was backpedaling. He should have said right to Opie’s face that he was going to be out every Monday until he used up all his days. Sorry but if the company gave it to him, Opie’s issue is with the company. Steve did them a solid by telling them to let him know if it was a problem. The reality is he didn’t have to. Opie crying about wishing he could take off every Monday is a joke too. Opie signed a contract and his contract has its own rules. They have nothing to do with Steve.
The staff had vacation time built up, and the company was just going to wipe it off the books? Is that even legal?
Captain Opie should have been telling the suits to either pay them off or work out a schedule so they can use the time, not getting furious at the one guy with the sense enough to start taking days off.
47:29 Anthony is mathematically correct here. Steve's email gave a word-for-word description of an infinite sequence of Mondays. Cumia plays dumb but he got more out of his high school education than Opie got out of SUNY Geneseo
Anthony dropped out
New York Universities are terrible
@@Old_82he said "out of his highschool education" not out of a high school diploma
this is what got steve fired and , in relation, killed.
+AppliedScience Really ? Taking days of that he was suppose to got him fired ? That is fucked up
AppliedScience Where did you get that? He didn't get fired until late 2010, well over a year after this.
I think he meant this general attitude/status quo with Steve C and the other staff here. Opie clearly had nothing but contempt for the guy after this which would've been a huge factor in him getting fired. And working with a bunch of people who openly dislike you, some even hate you, who mercilessly humiliate you every day would, in all likelihood, have had an effect on his suicide.
all true but he also signed up for that..they all knew what came wit that show.
@Jade Runner Fair enough, I did not know that. Thank you for the info, that changes everything.
Whenever I hear them gang up on Steve it really makes me think he was the only righteous (patrice O’Neal’s words) person on the staff. Everyone denying that the shows a toxic environment when it clearly was. For the life of me I don’t know why he stayed on staff there.
Money. People stay in horrible jobs because if they don't it creates more problems. Being trapped in a situation like this is classic suicide material, every day becomes torture. Suicide was the only way he felt he could escape constant extreme stress.
Paul Thoresen well he was gone from the show by the time he took his own life
@@johnochiltree1170 Right, so probably having financial difficulty, particularly with a family
100% agree. Steve obviously wasn't perfect and self admittedly a head case, but righteous is the perfect word. He's the only one out of the whole crew of regulars that I think was a good person. The rest, including Jimmy and Ant all turned out to be varying degrees of scumbags
"What I say at staff meetings is pretty much just to get people off my back!"
That really is an unbelievable thing to admit, especially at that moment. XD
This is why the underling sharks were always out for carlisi. When the boss will distort, lie and say anything to get out of an uncomfortable situation, it is impossible to respect.
In this video he says he never knew they called him while he was out, then admits later he wasn't gonna call in to get his dick kicked in.
Doesn’t foreseeable mean somethig that can be seen or predictable?
lol opie makes millions of dollars more and giving these guys a hard time because-they didnt use there days off
worst of it is O&A were on a salary from Sirius I think, so it's not like they were paying the O&A staff out of their own pocket - they were all company men/employees. This is HR's issue
Steve wasn’t fit to be a people manager. Especially is such an environment.
I liked Steve but he was contradicting himself in this conversation so much.
How can any of these guys not feel responsible for his suicide?
@@dfdhgtrss212 you got him there, albeit posthumously
@@dfdhgtrss212 I have faith that Steve didn’t check out because of Danny and Sam being weasels.
Sam definitely played the biggest role imo. He’s just a mean person.
While I could see a new listener tuning out of this.. .This episode is a great example of why this show was so great for long time listeners. You knew so much about the entire staff, their quirks, faults, that it felt like you were a part of hilarious family arguments. Staff drama gave me some of my biggest laughs.
Ant using Bueller references are epic. And Opie being the hole for 92% of this is just as epic.
@kennedywilliams2280 then send me a Kennedy Williams approved list of terms we’re all “allowed” to use. Thanks Ope.
The reactions to the Travis-bomb from 32:18 onwards is gold
It sucks people can not separate their jobs from their life. RIP Steve
Love that this is back up because I never got to hear this much from Steve. Opie should feel responsible for why this poor guy hated his life but of course I'm sure he does not.
Really? And not Anthony? Anthony's behind the scenes boyfriend, Danny Ross, was allowed to bully Steve incessantly with no repercussions because he was over Ants house after the show with his mouth full.
@@hilltop4847 Yeah that's a good point. That stupid guy got away with murder constantly just so Ant could have a drinking buddy. Hated him on the show too.
@@hilltop4847 agreed
@@hilltop4847 agreed
Steve was hilarious but he wasnt meant to be a producer.
So glad this clip is back on TH-cam.
R.I.P. Steve C, thank you Jason
Opie whining about him not getting a ton of days off is ridiculous. How about you made 200-300 times the money that the staff made. Also, I’m convinced that there was consciously no actual chain of command, so they could keep the office in constant turmoil for show fodder. Danny should have been fired long before this. Why would anyone want to be in charge if nobody is required to follow their directions when there is no consequences?
“And that’s how you Executive reduce” Should have gotten a WAY bigger laugh than it did 🤣🤣
" Holy shit it i wish i could do that" says the man who lives in a multi million dollar appartement with a trophy wife and at the time a six-figure salary. facepalm.. and infuriating.
6 figure salary? Try 7. Opie had 2 year 10 million dollar contracts at siriusxm.
It’s kinda crazy, cause Steve sounds like he’s the only one with good work ethic there and is actually a decent dude. Much as I like Jimmy & Ant they’re just radio personalities as opposed to having to coordinate him
And then he hangs himself in his basement on his wedding anniversary
It's such a shame we couldn't have heard Steve on more shows, and that he didn't get to do new things after O&A. Would've been fun to see where he is now.
I just found out Steve killed himself. That makes this really sad. This is a really boring show. I can't even finish this one. I love the show, but, I really don't care if one of the behind the scenes guys wants to take time off.
U make a valid point. But like any show theres good and bad segments.
Stern invented these bits and they stink. O and A should know better.
I don't understand how this non-issue went on for so long.
"We thought you were taking every Monday off."
"I'm not."
"But we thought you were."
"I'm not."
"But we thought you were."
Fucking draining.
DID YOU LISTEN TO THE EMAIL!??
Rest in Peace Steve C.
This might be my favorite Opie and Anthony TH-cam clip
RIP Steve C. I hope God is giving you at least some Mondays of in the great beyond. Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesssss.
I'm mad Opie didn't take more days, and by more I mean all.
The balls of Anthony to give Steve shit for taking off is hilarious 😂
This sounds like a staff meeting Opie should have had with his higher ups
He just used it for recycled radio gold given to him by his mentor Howard Stern
Knowing Steve commits suicide. This is hard to listen to now. It’s still funny as hell but you can hear Steve breaking down. Reminds me of when Patrice noticed it and asked Steve if he was ok. The signs were there unfortunately you never really notice them until it’s to late. Rip Steve
In any sane universe, people would correctly judge that both Opie and Steve are wrong in this situation, but Opie is so obnoxious that we feel sorry for Steve.
how ironic op's upset about steve taking a day off every week back then.. when he does a 4, sometimes a 3 , day work week now.. hypocrite much opie?
SoCalChewbacca You could have at least used Howard criticism instead for your pointless Opie hate
why? I don't listen to howard, how would I know his words to use? besides that I have my own mind and can use my own words.. im a big boy now.
Opie has been on vacation since he was 18
@@SoCalChewbacca pampers pull ups? I’m trying to remember the commercial
Does he suck or is he so crucial that he can't take Monday's off? If the show runs so much better when he's not there, why do they care? Opie is being awful, but Sam (his subordinate) is worse. Constantly bullied, ended up opting out. Are they wholly responsible? No. But it didn't help.
Dang when opie gets mad he wants the whole room angry. Misery needs company 🤷 smh
I thought Opie said that Steve C is shit and cant do shit right. "He might as well not be here". This is all Opie needed to get Steve C fired. Steve was fired just a few months later
He shouldve taken every monday off. It was contractual. He earned it.
Yeah but people who take advantage of the rules and hide behind legal/union rules are the worst people to work with in my opinion. I’ve been paying union dues since I was 18. *Sniff