In regards to Archer's rather smug dismissal of the possibility of micro singularities, I'd just like to point out that Archer is someone who has spent most of the series at this point believing in TIME TRAVEL.
One is a first of a line ship meant to prove concept and provide a pseudo military role. TNG's Enterprise is effectively a mobile Embassy/Military base.
It's kind of strange Archer is so dismissive of micro singularities when we already have theories and studies on planck relics. planck scale black holes left over from the formation of the universe.
@@Sceth Not really. The Vulcans at this point are miles ahead of Starfleet, and even they can't prove their existance, so it's no surprise Archer is so dismissive.
@@supremeownage8995 Maybe, but the problem is they are theoretically possible. So even if it takes 1000 years to prove they can not be dismissed outright. Same thing with worm holes and white holes. We have never seen one in nature, but they are theoretically possible.
@@Sceth Exactly. But we're talking about Captain Archer here. He clearly thinks they aren't real, and seems to be amused at how the Vulcans think they're real but can't prove it.
I'd recommend that you watch Enterprise. It's got its bad episodes but then every show does. Just a shame it got shut down early while Voyager got a full 7 season run
Here's the thing-because a singularity is a single point in spacetime, _every_ singularity is a micro-singularity. The event horizon around one may not be, but the singularity itself is.
yeah, they call them microsingularities because of a tiny event horizon. because calling them microevent horizons, doesnt really have a good ring to it.
I think it was a victim of bad timing, having 3 series preceding it for over a decade. Personally, I was burned out by the time Enterprise came along, and the intro song didn't help, either. Looking back on it, it seems like a fine series to me. It probably would have done better if they didn't immediately follow Voyager with this.
Honestly, no. I was surprised when I read online that there were people that literally hated the show. I don't understand that. Every previous Star Trek series had its flaws, and there were a couple of things I wished were different with Enterprise, but I always enjoyed the show (except the final episode). I felt short-changed when it didn't even get a full run. For me, it was the last real Star Trek series ever made. Since it was cancelled, the closest thing I've seen to a new Star Trek series has been The Orville. Discovery and Picard don't feel much like Star Trek or like they fit anywhere in Gene Roddenberry's vision of the future. Neither has any of the optimism, diplomacy, intelligence or even basic writing ability that made previous Star Trek shows what they were.
Did they switch bodies or something? I'm pretty sure Archer is the one who's supposed to believe in unproven things, and T'Pol is supposed to be the sceptic.
Belief and skepticism are not relevant. Science and math can postulate the existence of many things that have not yet been tested for and proven or dis-proven. Micro-singularities are a Vulcan theory until they can be verified. Or the math shown to be in error.
@@sr9587 You guys are both out of your minds. You obviously haven't seen enough Trek. The most gorgeous woman in the entire Federation is Harry Mudd's wife. She's in TOS "I, Mudd". It's a great episode. Check it out and be prepared to fall in love.
Would've been interesting if she'd ignored and refused to help Trip, and was able to stick with Archer instead, but rules were rules and she had to pick someone of equal rank. At first, I thought she was going to pick no one-happy to be alone-but she was probably lonely, even for a Vulcan-and helped Trip.
The season 2 episode in which Porthos was ill had a funny scene at the end where T'Pol stumples a bit saying that it was good they were bound by command rules to not get together. Like a bug in the matrix, T'Pol might have told us that she found the idea of an adventure with Archer, at least interesting in the back of her mind... "it's a good thing you ar emy commanding officer, otherwise we... we could have been tempted in a way that, that could have been... problematic." And I also think she's conscious of Archer's efforts to keep his own attraction to her down and that their trust as friends as well as colleagues depends on their self control. For once a human controls his urges in front of her, she ain't gonna sabotage his efforts. (and also give another reason to be treated as a paria by the Vulcan High Command in the process...
THIS Enterprise never made me feel uncomfortable...claustrophobic...as did the vessel in TNG. Something to do with the camera/video shots, and the behaviors of the crew.
He asked who would be in charge. On a navy ship, there would be multiple officers of rank and seniority in that department capable of taking over. Although there would be a clear chain of command in case of injury or the like, in a situation like this one the engineer would likely appoint someone according to a duty roster, or possibly to a slightly more junior officer in order to give them much-needed experience.
in Engineering jobs are usually delegated according to specialty, not rank. The Chief Engineering Officer is the one who has to report to the Captain, but there could be others of similar or lower ranks who are actually in charge of something. In Starfleet for example a systems engineer (Barclay) doesn't necessarily have authority over the Transport Chief (O Brien), even if the Chief is an NCO. B'lanna Torres and Lt.Carey are the same rank but Carey supports her given her appointment as Chief Engineer.
Vulcan's Have Myths ??? They Might Have Working Theories Of Low Probability Events That Can Not be Confirmed, but MYTHS ?? I Think A Romulan Version Might Punch You For That ?? :0
they have myths but don't use them as guidance for their lives. Vulcans have longstanding traditions, rituals and even religion but acknowledge that they are mostly to focus their minds and provide inspiration. What they don't believe in is illogical miracles, unscientific origin theories and deus ex machina events until they run into new evidence (like time travel or mirror universes). We have seen the TOS crew go through pon farr rituals, a katra ceremony and a wedding gone wrong and the Enterprise crew raiding a Vulcan temple that was actually a surveillance base using myths to cloak their presence. In Picard it's shown that Romulans also have mind-focusing rituals, although Narek used them to manipulate Soji rather than actually perform them. It explains a lot why the Romulans are always focused and calm.
In other words a tiny black hole. I guess there wasn't enough proof for the Vulcan science academy until spock and the enterprise NCC1701 came up with something more concrete and the enterprise lost part of it's main computer. Took out turbo lifts, warp engines, and a bunch of minor functions.
Micro, in this instance, refers to mass as opposed to dimensions; of course, a micro singularity may be a inch or so in diameter and have a mass less than a ton but can still wreak major damage to unprotected ship. _Sagittarius A,_ a black hole/singularity at the center of our galaxy probably masses _googol_ (10 to the hundredth power) tons!
Please correct me if I'm wrong... I like Enterprise... But.... Astrometrics?... Quantum sensors?... Isn't that 24th Century tech? I thought Seven of Nine and Harry Kim invented Astrometrics... 🤔
Harry Kim built the astrometrics lab at the yoyager, cause they weren't equipped with it. And seven of night worked their, but neither invented Astrometrics.
I couldn't stand Archer's ready room. In real life Bakula is 6' and he has to duck those girders every time he leaves his desk or moves about the outside edge of his ready room. I'm 6'-5" and that would drive me insane. Meanwhile Blalock T'Pol is 5'-6" so no problem for her. Lucky girl 😊
@@justinmiller1118 It would be since it actually more than a hundred virus/virii,whatever. Though, I'm gathering there may be a potential cure now. These are corona virus.
Something I never understood about Mr Reed. In an interview Dominic said he played Mr Reed as though he was gay, but in the show it was quite clear he was straight.
Yeah pairing the most emotional man (Trip) with the least emotional woman (T'pol) was a stupid match. An overemotional Trip should have driven any Vulcan crazy.
He was too short for her. In heels she'd be taller than him. Only real option are Captain Archer or Trip, because even in 3 inch heels, they'd still be taller than her. Hoshi and Reed would have made a more suitable pair
Not sure why there is an extra manufactured conflict about micro singularities vs. time travel. Seems like they should all go where the science leads. Archer was very dismissive of the ability to simply check and prove a historic phenomenon. This too seems out of character.
"the singularities were here here and here" "you're telling me we were hit by tiny black holes?" Try it this way: "The eyeballs were here, here and here" "you're telling me we were hit by tiny human beings?" A singularity is not a black hole; it is part of a black hole.
Time's a-wasting. Okay, Archer it is time to get rid of the 1940s vocabulary and get Trip some diction lessons. Bones McCoy was a Southerner too but he was smooth.
Not really 1940s expression that's an old English saying still heard in England today. The English are the progenitor and guardians of the English language, not the Americans. Or any other nationality for that matter.
In regards to Archer's rather smug dismissal of the possibility of micro singularities, I'd just like to point out that Archer is someone who has spent most of the series at this point believing in TIME TRAVEL.
I think that's more about the Vulcan bias he sheds over the course of the series than anything. :D
I think you'll find that Archer's "dismissal" is more a jab at the Vulcan disbelief than his own. :)
The Earth Science Directorate has determinated that micro singularities are impossible.
He is poking fun at Vulcan skepticism, not his own
Big r/woosh
This Enterprise looks like a battle cruiser inside. TNG Enterprise looks like a Hilton Hotel.
One is a first of a line ship meant to prove concept and provide a pseudo military role. TNG's Enterprise is effectively a mobile Embassy/Military base.
In the words of Honest Trailers: Cross between cutting-edge space battleship and a Mariott convention center.
Not far off. This Enterprise was deliberately inspired by a submarine.
More like a submarine with hatched doors.
archer is the last person on several planets to whom i would loan my car. look what he did to enterprise.
Micro singularities power Romulan Warbirds in the 24th Century
It's kind of strange Archer is so dismissive of micro singularities when we already have theories and studies on planck relics. planck scale black holes left over from the formation of the universe.
@@Sceth Not really. The Vulcans at this point are miles ahead of Starfleet, and even they can't prove their existance, so it's no surprise Archer is so dismissive.
@@supremeownage8995 Maybe, but the problem is they are theoretically possible. So even if it takes 1000 years to prove they can not be dismissed outright. Same thing with worm holes and white holes. We have never seen one in nature, but they are theoretically possible.
@@Sceth Exactly. But we're talking about Captain Archer here. He clearly thinks they aren't real, and seems to be amused at how the Vulcans think they're real but can't prove it.
no; quantum singularities, an entirely different mythical creature.
One of the rare moments of Malcolm being vulnerable. Good scene! #ReedAlert :D
He said, smugly, unaware he was going to spend YEARS getting punked over time travel.
Shuttle Pod one is one of (in my opion) the best episodes the franchise has to offer.
Agree.
If I were a Vulcan in human proximity for long enough I'm sure I'd at least have learned to say "well done" once in a while
Well T'Pol can just stand still for an extra 15 seconds and that would be enough.
Archer and T'Pol had such great chemistry
I more or less left the Star Trek world when Voyager concluded; but watching these clips do make me want to go back and watch Enterprise
I'd recommend that you watch Enterprise. It's got its bad episodes but then every show does.
Just a shame it got shut down early while Voyager got a full 7 season run
That last comment from Malcolm I think he just wanted to make sure he wasn't dreaming again
It just dawned on me. It college professors looked like T’pol I would’ve had three PHD’s.
Here's the thing-because a singularity is a single point in spacetime, _every_ singularity is a micro-singularity. The event horizon around one may not be, but the singularity itself is.
yeah, they call them microsingularities because of a tiny event horizon.
because calling them microevent horizons, doesnt really have a good ring to it.
Singularity is science speak for we have no idea what the hell it is
This was s01e16, not 15. Don't ask me how I remembered that in 20 years, but I have.
Remember when this was the bad Star Trek?
well it was always better than both Ds9 and Tng.
I think it was a victim of bad timing, having 3 series preceding it for over a decade. Personally, I was burned out by the time Enterprise came along, and the intro song didn't help, either. Looking back on it, it seems like a fine series to me. It probably would have done better if they didn't immediately follow Voyager with this.
@@Loki-qo2kb That is only because nobody can remember episodes like Marauders
And so was Voyager before it.
I call it "New Trek is not real trek - The Next Generation"
Honestly, no. I was surprised when I read online that there were people that literally hated the show. I don't understand that. Every previous Star Trek series had its flaws, and there were a couple of things I wished were different with Enterprise, but I always enjoyed the show (except the final episode). I felt short-changed when it didn't even get a full run. For me, it was the last real Star Trek series ever made. Since it was cancelled, the closest thing I've seen to a new Star Trek series has been The Orville. Discovery and Picard don't feel much like Star Trek or like they fit anywhere in Gene Roddenberry's vision of the future. Neither has any of the optimism, diplomacy, intelligence or even basic writing ability that made previous Star Trek shows what they were.
I always watch star trek when i was young and star trek is a sci fi francise that inspire
Did they switch bodies or something? I'm pretty sure Archer is the one who's supposed to believe in unproven things, and T'Pol is supposed to be the sceptic.
Some things are more important than that... like making fun of Vulcans.
Belief and skepticism are not relevant. Science and math can postulate the existence of many things that have not yet been tested for and proven or dis-proven. Micro-singularities are a Vulcan theory until they can be verified. Or the math shown to be in error.
I think he was just enjoying himself, being on the skeptic side of the argument for a change. 😂
Just like Mulder and Scully.
She has no idea, Malcolm!
Great team these two
I guess that is one way to see if you are still dreaming. Oh well, you cant get a home run if you never swing.
T'pol is the most beautiful woman in all of Star Trek History
Naw im a seven man but she gets the silver medal😍
@@sr9587 Oh Ok
@@sr9587 Kira Nerys from DS9 is my second favourite woman in Star Trek history
@@sr9587 You guys are both out of your minds. You obviously haven't seen enough Trek. The most gorgeous woman in the entire Federation is Harry Mudd's wife. She's in TOS "I, Mudd". It's a great episode. Check it out and be prepared to fall in love.
The Star Trek Enterprise crew was the hottest Star Trek crew there was. Everyone was attractive, decon was always great to see
So T'Kes is channelling Mulder while Archer is channelling Scully😉😁🤣.
The Vulcan Science Directorate has determined that micro singularities are impossible.
Would've been interesting if she'd ignored and refused to help Trip, and was able to stick with Archer instead, but rules were rules and she had to pick someone of equal rank. At first, I thought she was going to pick no one-happy to be alone-but she was probably lonely, even for a Vulcan-and helped Trip.
The season 2 episode in which Porthos was ill had a funny scene at the end where T'Pol stumples a bit saying that it was good they were bound by command rules to not get together. Like a bug in the matrix, T'Pol might have told us that she found the idea of an adventure with Archer, at least interesting in the back of her mind... "it's a good thing you ar emy commanding officer, otherwise we... we could have been tempted in a way that, that could have been... problematic."
And I also think she's conscious of Archer's efforts to keep his own attraction to her down and that their trust as friends as well as colleagues depends on their self control. For once a human controls his urges in front of her, she ain't gonna sabotage his efforts. (and also give another reason to be treated as a paria by the Vulcan High Command in the process...
THIS Enterprise never made me feel uncomfortable...claustrophobic...as did the vessel in TNG.
Something to do with the camera/video shots, and the behaviors of the crew.
T'pol could hit me with her singularity...
The Vulcans believe in micro singularities and the Earthlings dont and yet the Earthlings believe in time travel which the Vulcans dont...
Archer doesn't know his own crew? Surely the Deputy Engineering Officer would be fairly senior.
He asked who would be in charge. On a navy ship, there would be multiple officers of rank and seniority in that department capable of taking over. Although there would be a clear chain of command in case of injury or the like, in a situation like this one the engineer would likely appoint someone according to a duty roster, or possibly to a slightly more junior officer in order to give them much-needed experience.
in Engineering jobs are usually delegated according to specialty, not rank. The Chief Engineering Officer is the one who has to report to the Captain, but there could be others of similar or lower ranks who are actually in charge of something. In Starfleet for example a systems engineer (Barclay) doesn't necessarily have authority over the Transport Chief (O Brien), even if the Chief is an NCO. B'lanna Torres and Lt.Carey are the same rank but Carey supports her given her appointment as Chief Engineer.
I digit.
Captain Arched doesn’t believe in micro singularityies.
T”Pol time travel.
Forgive me. I’m not so bright. 🧛♂️
Miss tpol ,nice of you ;trying to save me. im glad they saved you ,seems you became a target ;from these geneticly created species!
Why would T'Pol stoop to accept a mere Nobel Prize? 🤓😎🖖🏻
Well, too small of a black hole would dissappear instantly
Vulcan's Have Myths ??? They Might Have Working Theories Of Low Probability Events That Can Not be Confirmed, but MYTHS ??
I Think A Romulan Version Might Punch You For That ?? :0
they have myths but don't use them as guidance for their lives. Vulcans have longstanding traditions, rituals and even religion but acknowledge that they are mostly to focus their minds and provide inspiration. What they don't believe in is illogical miracles, unscientific origin theories and deus ex machina events until they run into new evidence (like time travel or mirror universes). We have seen the TOS crew go through pon farr rituals, a katra ceremony and a wedding gone wrong and the Enterprise crew raiding a Vulcan temple that was actually a surveillance base using myths to cloak their presence.
In Picard it's shown that Romulans also have mind-focusing rituals, although Narek used them to manipulate Soji rather than actually perform them. It explains a lot why the Romulans are always focused and calm.
Yep Star Trek five actually indicates that at one point they actually had their own version of Eden and possibly some form of deity
Not everybody gets to live the dream, aye T’pol? 😉😉😴💆🏼♂️🖖🏻
So is this him ribbing her about not believing in time travel?
I always enjoyed Enterprise. If TOS was outer space in the present day, Enterprise was the wild west 100 years earlier.
I just have one question: Who’s Stinky?
Worth a try. You never really know.
T'pol is cute when she is annoyed.
"micro-singularity" is an oxymoron.
A singularity has no dimension.
In other words a tiny black hole. I guess there wasn't enough proof for the Vulcan science academy until spock and the enterprise NCC1701 came up with something more concrete and the enterprise lost part of it's main computer. Took out turbo lifts, warp engines, and a bunch of minor functions.
I assumed the micro prefix referred to the mass, not the physical size.
@@peter9477 a singularity has no mass; or it has infinite mass, depending on how you look at it.
@@Hiraghm Are you being pedantic about the term singularity, or using it as a synonym for black hole as most everyone else would?
Micro, in this instance, refers to mass as opposed to dimensions; of course, a micro singularity may be a inch or so in diameter and have a mass less than a ton but can still wreak major damage to unprotected ship. _Sagittarius A,_ a black hole/singularity at the center of our galaxy probably masses _googol_ (10 to the hundredth power) tons!
What is the Vulcan logical reason for heavy makeup on their women?
Mmmmh, protect their skin from Vulcan harsh climate?
beauty isn't illogical. It's a key element of the biological imperative.
@@murielleladouceur6414 No: To protect their skin from the frigid, humid Earth-like room climate onboard the Enterprise.
It's just a little bit of lead powder and asbestos
D'poll is CUTE CUTE CUTE
who
@@LordTalax The Volcon woman
The ship's captain didn't know who was in charge of Engineering? Disappointing lack of knowledge for a commanding officer. .
My crush with eyeliner. 2.5
The romulans use black holes for there warp drive
Micrsingularitys yes. Time travel , no.
If a singularity is infinitely small, what the dickens is a micro one?
More accurately, I think they meant the event horizons were microscopic.
Please correct me if I'm wrong... I like Enterprise... But.... Astrometrics?... Quantum sensors?...
Isn't that 24th Century tech? I thought Seven of Nine and Harry Kim invented Astrometrics... 🤔
Astrometrics is just data about outer space, akin to biometrics.
Harry Kim built the astrometrics lab at the yoyager, cause they weren't equipped with it. And seven of night worked their, but neither invented Astrometrics.
The 'Astrometrics lab' on Voyager was built to support and in addition to Stella Cartography. It was just a new lab they built.
@@markrtoffeeman I dated Stella once. We just couldn’t find our bearings.
they built a lab, not invent the concept.
I couldn't stand Archer's ready room. In real life Bakula is 6' and he has to duck those girders every time he leaves his desk or moves about the outside edge of his ready room. I'm 6'-5" and that would drive me insane. Meanwhile Blalock T'Pol is 5'-6" so no problem for her. Lucky girl 😊
👍😁
She's so *hot*
Reed commented on it in this very episode. "She's got a nicd bum...."
@@xaenon he's not wrong!
"Black holes do exist Cap"!
Micro singularities cancelled this series when it was in its prime.
too bad this series isnt on Netflix
Micro black holes scientific space pipe dream
Why is there still a "common cold"?
McCoy hadn't gotten around to curing it yet, as Spock predicted he might do some day.
@@rbbecker73 And this is way before TOS.
I think Malcolm had it in an episode too. Likely its just something humans have to live with... a shame because I got one right now and its not fun.
Per ST cannon, it proves to be one of the most difficult illnesses to cure.
@@justinmiller1118 It would be since it actually more than a hundred virus/virii,whatever. Though, I'm gathering there may be a potential cure now. These are corona virus.
A 7 of 9 moment.@ 2:05
How does the Captain not know who number 2 in engineering is?
Because crew rotations and staffing has always been the first officers job. And Enterprises first officer is who he asked the question to.
I always felt Malcolm would have been a better love interest for T'Pol than Trip.
Nah. Malcom is a human Vulcan. Not enough contrast.
Something I never understood about Mr Reed. In an interview Dominic said he played Mr Reed as though he was gay, but in the show it was quite clear he was straight.
Yeah pairing the most emotional man (Trip) with the least emotional woman (T'pol) was a stupid match. An overemotional Trip should have driven any Vulcan crazy.
He was too short for her. In heels she'd be taller than him. Only real option are Captain Archer or Trip, because even in 3 inch heels, they'd still be taller than her. Hoshi and Reed would have made a more suitable pair
@@LordTalax Actually, Archer was the most emotional. At the very least he had quite the temper compared to the others.
Not sure why there is an extra manufactured conflict about micro singularities vs. time travel. Seems like they should all go where the science leads.
Archer was very dismissive of the ability to simply check and prove a historic phenomenon. This too seems out of character.
It's called playful banter. Scientists engage in it all the time.
Nothing says they shouldn't do both
Manos = Manson = Manson Jolly, First Sergeant, First Cavalry, South Carolina Confederate Army. [1840-1869] [1948 - ]
I refuse to watch your video because you don't have closed captioning
Good ole stinky.
Waste of time for a ship’s captain to be doing a hull survey….
"the singularities were here here and here"
"you're telling me we were hit by tiny black holes?"
Try it this way:
"The eyeballs were here, here and here"
"you're telling me we were hit by tiny human beings?"
A singularity is not a black hole; it is part of a black hole.
Wrong
@@startrektpol3602 Not wrong; a singularity is found at the center of a black hole, beyond the event horizon (which is also a part of a black hole).
@@Hiraghm the singularity IS the black hole, it's what's causing the bend in spacetime. That's not the same relation as humans and eyeballs.
@@middosk5067 no, it's not. A black hole has a singularity and an event horizon.
@@Hiraghm The event horizon is just a boundary, the line beyond which nothing escapes, not a "physical" object like the singularity
Let’s go Brandon
Brandon going to turn gay in the Brig for the rest of his life!
Time's a-wasting. Okay, Archer it is time to get rid of the 1940s vocabulary and get Trip some diction lessons. Bones McCoy was a Southerner too but he was smooth.
it's way past time the western world re-adopted 1940s vocabulary.
Bones got more southern the older he got.
Not really 1940s expression that's an old English saying still heard in England today. The English are the progenitor and guardians of the English language, not the Americans. Or any other nationality for that matter.
>>Bones McCoy was a Southerner too but he was smooth.
@@ds1868 >>English are the progenitor and guardians of the English language, not the Americans.
Such a desperate play to get him famous.
Really hope it failed. That fake cry was caca.
Star Trek the best sci - fi show in the world❤❤❤
This is quite good - do treat yourself to The Expanse though.
Vulcan Micro singularity = human Time travel