Yep, no Hall of Fame. He's from my hometown, buried a mile from my childhood home. His grave is always covered with baseballs and bats from fans. He has a museum, a statue, a memorial baseball park near where he played milltown ball, and hundreds of local fans who feel Joe did his best to make things right. But no, no Hall of Fame.
Not to mention that pronounced as he did, "Gypper" takes on a racist connotation against the Romani (gypsies). www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2013/12/30/242429836/why-being-gypped-hurts-the-roma-more-than-it-hurts-you
Being born and raised in Kansas and knowing of all of the towns that you spoke of it makes this one of my favorite videos ever. We love Eisenhower and we love our sports, thanks Simon!
The oath to not "lie cheat or steal, nor tolerate those who do" applies to all of the Service Academies, not just West Point. I had to sign the oath for acceptance into Norwich for my Graduate Studies, and although I was a Veteran, I was never an Officer nor a member of the Cadets. They will also reject you if you have a criminal record or less than Honorable discharge from the Service. "Do not take frivolous oaths; And the ones' you do make, mean them." Marcus Aurelius-Reflections on Oaths.
I about 1920 Ty Cobb came to Georgia and played in several exhibition games. For money if course. One of my grandfather's achievements in life was that he struck out Ty Cobb - twice. He had to finish raising his four sisters so he never tried out for professional baseball. But after he finished raising those girls (both his parents had died) he went to college, got his Ph.D, and became a Methodist minister. That's my baseball story.
@Simon: for future reference in case you ever cover Reagan again, the nickname for Reagan's character (and later used for Reagan himself) in the Knute (pronounced Nute) Rockne (Rock-Knee) film was pronounced with a hard G. G-ipper, not J-ipper. 😊
Maybe he thought it was soft jeh g instead of the hard guh g in reference to the damage Reagan's supply side economics did to the middle-class after promising them a greater share of the nation's wealth, gypping them?
Ikr, life is so wierd. My parents were set up after her parents and my dad's sister ended up sharing a storm cellar during a tornado warning. My dad was a Marine in Korea and lonely, so my grandparents told my mom, who began to write him. They met when he came home on leave, got engaged in letters, broke up in letters, and then got married when he came home for Christmas, lol. My aunt was only living in my grandparents town for a brief time, if not for that, and the storm, and the same cellar near by, I wouldn't be here. Butterfly wings indeed!
roger komula If you had any understanding of how actual war was conducted, you wouldn’t insult the rear echelon without knowing specific details. Yes, there have been some campaigns where frontline troops were not well supported, but zero support is never an option. Without command and control, logistics, intelligence, transport, administration, materiel, medical staff, and operational support, any unit over the size of a fire team would be utterly ineffective. Perhaps read some history.
Simon as one of your hugest fans... because of the honesty of your delivery and the obvious love you have for knowledge and history in general: I concur... Doc Ellis and the time he threw a no-hitter on LSD.
Some (not really) necessary corrections: - Ronald Reagan played the (HARD G) Gipper in "Knute Rockne (pronounced rock knee), All-American". - Joe Jackson was banned from Major League baseball because of the 1919 Black Sox scandal. So, despite his immense talent, he's not in the HOF and never will be.
After today I will not mention the way Simon pronounces things. As an American we can't expect everyone in the world say things the way we do. Hell, I have gotten use to the way people with British or Australian accents pronounces "H's" and "Z's" 😆😆😆😆
I don’t know the rules that applied when Eisenhower was in college, but today NCAA rules make it clear amateur status is sport specific. Eisenhower did not play intercollegiate baseball, so his participation in football would not have violated that rule. A number of pro baseball players have had no problems later being on a college football team. A recent example is Oklahoma’s Kyler Murray who signed for $5 million in the Oakland A’s organization but after that played on the Sooners football team.
I'm thinking there is a major mistake in this video which I'm hoping someone can help me with in confirming starting at 2:11 ..... I think Simon has confused Junction City Kansas with Junction City Wisconsin when mentioning the intersecting railroads..... I know that Wisconsin Valley (also known later as Milwaukee Road) ran through Junction City Wisconsin along with the Soo Line. Looking further online it looks like the three railroads through Junction City Kansas were Kansas Pacific--the Union Pacific, Missouri, Kansas, and Texas railroad plus the Junction City and Fort Kearney railroad. I only say this is because Junction City Wisconsin is the next village over from where I live. Can anyone else confirm?
As noted by others below, TIFO confused Junction City, Wisconsin -- which really is place where two important railroads connect -- to Junction City, Kansas, which is named after the confluence of two rivers. Still, that should have been caught before recording, since Kansas and Wisconsin are different states, and it is unlikely that two railroads in Kansas would both bear the name of "Wisconsin." Rather like the likelihood that the Great Western Railway would have had tracks in East Anglia.
"Ronald Reagan even portrayed the Gipper in the football movie 'Knute Rockne All American.'" Gipper isn't pronounced with a J sound. Knute Rockne is pronounced NEWT rok-NEE.
While many will claim that you mispronounced Knute in Knute Rockne, the fact is, you are correct....for the most part. Far too many, in fact, probably 95% believe it's pronounced, "Newt". The man's name was actually pronounced, "Kuh-newt", just as you said. The problem is, that when said correctly, the "K" almost disappears if you aren't listening intently. However, it is there and it is said.
Joe Jackson was shoeless from the start. He is a local hero and deserves a Today I Found Out video.. it's a damn interesting story, and he has been misrepresented in history.. he took no money and had a statistically awesome World Series but due to illiteracy and being a "Rube" he was hung out to dry... #ShoelessJoeHOF!!!!
I love you Simon!!! Kanoot Rock Now and the Jipper. It is better the way YOU say IT!!!!For all of you who made a comment on how he pronounced the names. You know he is British. Right???
A better question is what did they ask about amateur status in 1911? Jim Thorpe's troubles with the olympics were in 1912, but was there was concern in American college athletics before then?
@@rmrevoir They (NCAA) just joined California to pay college players for their likeness in video games and etc. Now It's THEIR (NCAA) idea. Their pay cuts will be enormous. lmfao. Good reply though, giggling for 20 minutes. Thanks
No, Reagan did play George Gipp, "the Gipper". On his deathbed, he asked Knute Rockne (played by Pat O'Brien), to tell his team to "win one for the Gipper". Rockne gave the speech to which you are referring.
@@big8dog887 The problem here is if you're old enough to remember, you're too old to remember correctly. I stand corrected. Please disregard the above babble, except for the hard 'G' part..
Can’t wait for the first president who was a pro mma or boxer previously. How hilarious would it be for every time he spoke, a clip played of him getting tkfo
The pledge is a lot of BS and is so often violated that the leadership of the Academy have at times felt forced to ignore it, lest they deplete the ranks of the corps so much that few, if any, cadets would survive to graduation.
Shoeless Joe Jackson is not a Hall of Famer. The Baseball Hall of Fame excludes any player who is on the ineligible list. Because of the 1919 Black Sox scandal (where the Chicago White Sox threw the World Series), Jackson, along with seven other players, were permanently banned from baseball. 100 years later, Jackson (who was probably innocent), is still banned, and still not eligible for election to the Hall of Fame.
I know when he was a Colonel, he was assigned a motorized unit and it took over 6 months to go across the US's almost non-existent roadway network at the time. One of the main reasons the Interstate's now bear his name. And he wanted one of his secretaries to weed out the lesbians in the unit, only to find out that most of them were. Considering that they were a top-notch unit, the investigation didn't really go anywhere.
The leader of Cuba from 1959 to 2008? This is not true; Castro never received so much as a tryout from an American major league team. There is supposedly a mention of him in a report by a major league scout who was touring Cuba when Castro was on his college team, but the scout's opinion was not favorable.
It's one thing to mispronounce words in languages you don't speak. Not looking up IPA for the correct phonetic pronunciation of English words and names is another matter entirely. Keep the lols coming Simon. Never change.
When I saw the thumbnail, I was anticipating a video on Rougned Odor. Was disappointed. I would've watched Odor punching Bautista in the face for 10 minutes & 41 seconds.
Not having a go at you Simon but Knute Rockne is pronounced NEWT ROCK-KNEE. Hard one, that. It's like knife. I always hated silent letters (if it's silent, why the hell is it there?!?).
We're all in agreement here? Simon purposely mispronounces names.
More and more TH-camrs are doing this to encourage engagement. Wouldn't be surprised it's happening here, too.
GI-per
Nuwt RAHK-niy
If that's so, then I think that he's a bit of a gypper!
Yes I'm certain it's a living meme he maintains
Are the grammatical errors on purpose too? How about the wrong words?
The rare mispronunciation hat trick: three in one sentence!
That intro was a rollercoaster.
If it's Simon talking about ANYTHING American, it doesn't surprise me.
Where?
Everyone else seems to have the mispronunciations well in hand, so I'll focus on a factual error: "Shoeless" Joe Jackson is not a Hall-of-Famer.
Was that because of the "Black Socks" scandal?
@@Paladin1873 Yes.
Yep, no Hall of Fame. He's from my hometown, buried a mile from my childhood home. His grave is always covered with baseballs and bats from fans. He has a museum, a statue, a memorial baseball park near where he played milltown ball, and hundreds of local fans who feel Joe did his best to make things right. But no, no Hall of Fame.
@@donaldwatson7698 Do you think that will ever change?
@@Paladin1873 No. Fixing games is essentially considered to be a capital offense in baseball. It's an attack upon the game's integrity.
You mispronounced “Gipper”. It's pronounced g as in “gif” not g as in “gif” . 😂
Nailed it !
GIF = heef.
yup, blame the ancient Romans
Oh here's someone asking for trouble. 🤪
Not to mention that pronounced as he did, "Gypper" takes on a racist connotation against the Romani (gypsies).
www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2013/12/30/242429836/why-being-gypped-hurts-the-roma-more-than-it-hurts-you
Being born and raised in Kansas and knowing of all of the towns that you spoke of it makes this one of my favorite videos ever. We love Eisenhower and we love our sports, thanks Simon!
0:10 Bush Jr. was also a college athlete, he was a cheerleader.
The oath to not "lie cheat or steal, nor tolerate those who do" applies to all of the Service Academies, not just West Point. I had to sign the oath for acceptance into Norwich for my Graduate Studies, and although I was a Veteran, I was never an Officer nor a member of the Cadets. They will also reject you if you have a criminal record or less than Honorable discharge from the Service. "Do not take frivolous oaths; And the ones' you do make, mean them." Marcus Aurelius-Reflections on Oaths.
I about 1920 Ty Cobb came to Georgia and played in several exhibition games. For money if course. One of my grandfather's achievements in life was that he struck out Ty Cobb - twice. He had to finish raising his four sisters so he never tried out for professional baseball.
But after he finished raising those girls (both his parents had died) he went to college, got his Ph.D, and became a Methodist minister.
That's my baseball story.
@Simon: for future reference in case you ever cover Reagan again, the nickname for Reagan's character (and later used for Reagan himself) in the Knute (pronounced Nute) Rockne (Rock-Knee) film was pronounced with a hard G. G-ipper, not J-ipper. 😊
Maybe he thought it was soft jeh g instead of the hard guh g in reference to the damage Reagan's supply side economics did to the middle-class after promising them a greater share of the nation's wealth, gypping them?
@@RealSaintB That was a completely brilliant response! I'm honestly impressed! 😀
From now on, I'm going to refer to Reagan as the "Jipper." 🤣
My dad was a secretary for Ike in North Africa. Dad met my mom after the war. Butterfly wings for my existence.
Ikr, life is so wierd. My parents were set up after her parents and my dad's sister ended up sharing a storm cellar during a tornado warning. My dad was a Marine in Korea and lonely, so my grandparents told my mom, who began to write him. They met when he came home on leave, got engaged in letters, broke up in letters, and then got married when he came home for Christmas, lol. My aunt was only living in my grandparents town for a brief time, if not for that, and the storm, and the same cellar near by, I wouldn't be here. Butterfly wings indeed!
Maybe if they met as part of some intricate string of coincidences, but your dad was just a REMF.
@@rogerkomula8057Why would you say that? After Ike left N.A. for the D Day invasion, my dad wound up hunkered down in the mud on Anzio beach.
I'm sure he was constantly in peril.
roger komula If you had any understanding of how actual war was conducted, you wouldn’t insult the rear echelon without knowing specific details. Yes, there have been some campaigns where frontline troops were not well supported, but zero support is never an option. Without command and control, logistics, intelligence, transport, administration, materiel, medical staff, and operational support, any unit over the size of a fire team would be utterly ineffective.
Perhaps read some history.
You guys worked hard to get this video over 10 minutes. Bravo.
Would love to see an episode about the time Doc Ellis pitched a no-hitter on acid
I only learned about that from a bit from Robin Williams. I would like to know more.
Simon as one of your hugest fans... because of the honesty of your delivery and the obvious love you have for knowledge and history in general: I concur... Doc Ellis and the time he threw a no-hitter on LSD.
There are worse secrets to reveal than, "I used to play professional baseball," and it's nice to think that was his most sordid secret.
Despite the mispronunciations you're still my go to guy, Simon!😁👍
Note that the primary industry in Junction City is the US Army. It's the town outside of the gate of Fort Riley.
Sorry! Had to pause the video and pick myself off the floor from laughing
"The Gipper" is pronounced with a hard G!!!
He butchered the name "Knute Rockne" as well.
Some (not really) necessary corrections:
- Ronald Reagan played the (HARD G) Gipper in "Knute Rockne (pronounced rock knee), All-American".
- Joe Jackson was banned from Major League baseball because of the 1919 Black Sox scandal. So, despite his immense talent, he's not in the HOF and never will be.
Interesting but I'm still waiting for the "Today I Found Out: Why Simon Whistler Can't Pronounce Names", "Bonus Fact: He Can't Whistle Either."
I knew this because Mike Rowe did an episode of “That’s the Way I Heard It!” On this very subject.
After today I will not mention the way Simon pronounces things. As an American we can't expect everyone in the world say things the way we do. Hell, I have gotten use to the way people with British or Australian accents pronounces "H's" and "Z's" 😆😆😆😆
I don’t know the rules that applied when Eisenhower was in college, but today NCAA rules make it clear amateur status is sport specific. Eisenhower did not play intercollegiate baseball, so his participation in football would not have violated that rule. A number of pro baseball players have had no problems later being on a college football team. A recent example is Oklahoma’s Kyler Murray who signed for $5 million in the Oakland A’s organization but after that played on the Sooners football team.
You can't play ball if your dead, but I know for a fact, from personal experience, you *CAN* play baseball as a "cripple".
We need to teach Simon how to speak American.
Gipper - hard G, as is gap
Knute - silent K
Rockne - rock-knee
I'm thinking there is a major mistake in this video which I'm hoping someone can help me with in confirming starting at 2:11 ..... I think Simon has confused Junction City Kansas with Junction City Wisconsin when mentioning the intersecting railroads..... I know that Wisconsin Valley (also known later as Milwaukee Road) ran through Junction City Wisconsin along with the Soo Line. Looking further online it looks like the three railroads through Junction City Kansas were Kansas Pacific--the Union Pacific, Missouri, Kansas, and Texas railroad plus the Junction City and Fort Kearney railroad. I only say this is because Junction City Wisconsin is the next village over from where I live. Can anyone else confirm?
As noted by others below, TIFO confused Junction City, Wisconsin -- which really is place where two important railroads connect -- to Junction City, Kansas, which is named after the confluence of two rivers. Still, that should have been caught before recording, since Kansas and Wisconsin are different states, and it is unlikely that two railroads in Kansas would both bear the name of "Wisconsin." Rather like the likelihood that the Great Western Railway would have had tracks in East Anglia.
One of your best stories Simon.
Thank you, i finally know why Al Bundy loves Eisenhower so much
"Ronald Reagan even portrayed the Gipper in the football movie 'Knute Rockne All American.'"
Gipper isn't pronounced with a J sound. Knute Rockne is pronounced NEWT rok-NEE.
I was a professional pocket pool shark, just ask Monica. Oooooooooooooooh.
As someone from Texas, thanks for putting Odor on the thumbnail.
Wish it was him punching Bautista in the face. But let's take what we can get
While many will claim that you mispronounced Knute in Knute Rockne, the fact is, you are correct....for the most part. Far too many, in fact, probably 95% believe it's pronounced, "Newt". The man's name was actually pronounced, "Kuh-newt", just as you said. The problem is, that when said correctly, the "K" almost disappears if you aren't listening intently. However, it is there and it is said.
2:17 as opposed to enlisted personell who say, usually in regards to tests, " if you ain't cheatin' you ain't tryin'
It's pretty sad that I lived in JC for 10 years and had no idea about any of this history.
after watching some Business Blaze videos: fancy language Simon
I'd love to see you guys do an episode on one of your channels on the Negro Baseball League.
There’s a museum for the League in Kansas City Missouri
I’d hope they break the myth Jackie Robinson was the first black baseball player in favor of the guy who actually was, Moses Fleetwood Walker
Drew Saluk there was another guy before him who subbed in one game but was white-passing and didn’t make anything public.
racist
Joe Jackson was shoeless from the start. He is a local hero and deserves a Today I Found Out video.. it's a damn interesting story, and he has been misrepresented in history.. he took no money and had a statistically awesome World Series but due to illiteracy and being a "Rube" he was hung out to dry... #ShoelessJoeHOF!!!!
I love you Simon!!! Kanoot Rock Now and the Jipper. It is better the way YOU say IT!!!!For all of you who made a comment on how he pronounced the names. You know he is British. Right???
A better question is what did they ask about amateur status in 1911? Jim Thorpe's troubles with the olympics were in 1912, but was there was concern in American college athletics before then?
Simon, my man, it's Gipper, with a hard G, and Nute (noot), with a silent K. Carry on!
I kinda think he had some effect on American history anyway.
Name one president that has not lied. You can’t, no one can.
I call for Ike’s retroactive impeachment for baseball collusion.
Damian Grouse I wouldn’t put it past the NCAA to impose sanctions 😂
@@rmrevoir They (NCAA) just joined California to pay college players for their likeness in video games and etc. Now It's THEIR (NCAA) idea. Their pay cuts will be enormous. lmfao. Good reply though, giggling for 20 minutes. Thanks
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LOL ! Bravo !!
Mgrzx3 Base on you comment...I now call for Ike’s estate to receive retroactive compensation!
That's a hard "G" on Gipper, and Ronald Reagan never played The Gipper. The Gipper was dead, and Reagan's character gave a speech about him.
No, Reagan did play George Gipp, "the Gipper". On his deathbed, he asked Knute Rockne (played by Pat O'Brien), to tell his team to "win one for the Gipper". Rockne gave the speech to which you are referring.
@@big8dog887 The problem here is if you're old enough to remember, you're too old to remember correctly. I stand corrected. Please disregard the above babble, except for the hard 'G' part..
Jippers preferred to be called "Roma" actually.
GASP! You didn't start with a sponsor!
The jipper, kenuda rocknaya... Wow.
Ike was a hero he actually put up with Churchill :-))
that time when baseball games were like gadgets and social network
The Gipper is with a hard G. As in the word get.
Can’t wait for the first president who was a pro mma or boxer previously. How hilarious would it be for every time he spoke, a clip played of him getting tkfo
Could you do a video about the development of Cockney Rhyming Slang and how it went to influence language?
It’s a hard G in Gipper instead of a j-like sounds in gymnasium
Let's go win one for the Jipper!
George W. Bush also played fullback for Yale rugby.
The guh guh gipper Knute Rockne (sounds like Newt Rock-knee)
what?! 31 AT-ATs?!
someone made a deal with the dark side...
The pledge is a lot of BS and is so often violated that the leadership of the Academy have at times felt forced to ignore it, lest they deplete the ranks of the corps so much that few, if any, cadets would survive to graduation.
Shoeless Joe Jackson is not a Hall of Famer. The Baseball Hall of Fame excludes any player who is on the ineligible list. Because of the 1919 Black Sox scandal (where the Chicago White Sox threw the World Series), Jackson, along with seven other players, were permanently banned from baseball. 100 years later, Jackson (who was probably innocent), is still banned, and still not eligible for election to the Hall of Fame.
Nobody:
Commenters: I am so smart. I can pronounce things better than this TH-cam personality.
Eisenhower krabs:
I love money
Ronald Reagan portrayed the " Gipper " not the "Jipper" It has a G not a J
EXACTLY why its pronounced Gif not Jif.the end
@@spencerdokes6056 And why it is spelled jiraffe.
And the country Jermany
No, he didn't.
@@spencerdokes6056 It stands for Graphic Interchange Format, not the Giraffic Interchange Format.
I think Kay Summersby might have been another little secret he kept...at least from his wife.
Interesting history.
yes, the Jipper... indeed
The man's knee got hit so many times 😯
Simon. Knute Rockne is pronounced "Newt Rocknee"
Win one for the Jipper
The K is silent in Knute.
That was just the second of three mispronounced names in that sentence.
Tfin that was the only one I noticed. Maybe I just chalked the rest up to the accent! 😅
@@Oonagh72 Heh. Reagan was "The Gipper," not "The Jipper," and Knute's surname is pronounced with a "knee" as in the leg joint.
Tfin oh my goodness. How did I miss those mistakes.?? I have got to get a hearing test!
Can you please do a biographics episode on DDE? ♥️
I know when he was a Colonel, he was assigned a motorized unit and it took over 6 months to go across the US's almost non-existent roadway network at the time. One of the main reasons the Interstate's now bear his name. And he wanted one of his secretaries to weed out the lesbians in the unit, only to find out that most of them were. Considering that they were a top-notch unit, the investigation didn't really go anywhere.
Dwight ain't no Eddie Guerrero
good ol' joe with-shoes-for-now jackson...
"That's my secret" wow, okay
OK, did I miss something? WHY Did Eisenhower play under an assumed name.
The way this guy said Knute Rockne actually made it into the video! They have no Americans who proofread this shit?
Ike also coached West Point ball during his career.
Great video as usual but, I'm dying to know about Jimmy Stewart's military career
Ah yes, Fidel Castro. My favorite player! (He actually played for the MLB)
The leader of Cuba from 1959 to 2008? This is not true; Castro never received so much as a tryout from an American major league team. There is supposedly a mention of him in a report by a major league scout who was touring Cuba when Castro was on his college team, but the scout's opinion was not favorable.
3Dsjk Don’t confuse commies with facts.
@Wxlfman_773 A couple of years ago I would have agreed with you, but these days it's hard to be sure what is and is not satire.
3Dsjk That was assumption...
If only Castro had been a better baller, could have saved a lot of people a lot of suffering.
If DDE did play semi-pro ball, does that mean the USA has to forfeit WWII to Hitler? Hmm?
It's one thing to mispronounce words in languages you don't speak. Not looking up IPA for the correct phonetic pronunciation of English words and names is another matter entirely. Keep the lols coming Simon. Never change.
Slacking on the homework bro. Maybe too many channels?
Kanute Rockna....lol
The jipper?
Knute Rocknuh?
Win one for the Jipper!
Read the short story "Ike At The Mike" by Howard Waldrop. Explains _everything._
K-nute, lol
Gipper. G as in grape and great..
The K in Knute is silent.
"Newt Rock-knee"
Considering EVERY President since FDR should have, and be, imprisoned as war criminals, I'm not surprised his military career began with a fraud.
I noticed gipper not gyper lol
Kanute Rockne. Who? Jipper. Bush jr. was a cheerleader. Shoeless Joe was banned from Baseball therefor not a HOFer.
Canoot Rocknah. wow.
Can you please do a video on Marshal law
I made it to 1:45 ... Lol
Shoeless Joe Jackson is not in the baseball Hall of Fame, as a result of the Black Sox Scandal.
Denison, Texas
When I saw the thumbnail, I was anticipating a video on Rougned Odor. Was disappointed. I would've watched Odor punching Bautista in the face for 10 minutes & 41 seconds.
Did he call him Ka-NUTE? It's just Nute
Oh Simon you britness is showing. Still good though.
Not having a go at you Simon but Knute Rockne is pronounced NEWT ROCK-KNEE. Hard one, that. It's like knife. I always hated silent letters (if it's silent, why the hell is it there?!?).