I remember playing Rebel Assault when it was new and I remember everyone telling me it is amazing.... But I always thought exactly what James & Mike think here.
+Veggie Gamer There was star wars rebel assault for the p.c. It was an MSDOS game. Maybe they were talking about that one because i played that one on pc with a joystick back in the day and it was awesome!
jmatt781 Dude, i bet you're right, arrow keys would be a nightmare! Thank god i had a hip pilot Uncle back in the day that always got me the newest flight sim and joystick every Christmas. I honestly wish i could go back and unwrap all of them again, i got so excited back then!!
Chemdog Ninetyone That's awesome! Man, one of my biggest regrets was getting rid of this kickass flight stick that I was originally using for Mechwarrior 3 and some ww2 dogfight games back in the early 2000's. This thing had torso twisting, a throttle, a secondary thumbstick for looking on the top, and like 12 or so programable buttons. Now that there is a new resurgence of kickass flight games, I really wish that I still had it... such a damn shame.... gah!
The 32x game isn't based off the 1983 game, it's based off of a sega game released in the 90's that wasn't released in the us, and only had a limited release elsewhere. It's a direct port of that game
+Brandon Martinez i know right. james and mike should do maybe a monicum of research before their videos. its like saying super mario bros isnt anything like the arcade mario bros.
+Brandon Martinez I've seen two units of this game. One at a local arcade here on Long Island and another at the Pizza Planet Arcade in Disney MGM Studios. The machine was gigantic to fit two players and a force feedback seat.
Arcade Hunters I live near disney world and have been to mgm studios many times, while there is a sega star wars arcade game at pizza planet, it's not this one, it's a completely different and much better game, star wars trilogy arcade
Star Wars Arcade on 32X is actually a port of the 1993 Star Wars arcade game by Sega. Hardly anyone seems to know about it, so most people assume that the 32X version was a port of Atari's 1983 Star Wars game.
When I was a kid, I made some progress into Rebel Assault on Sega CD. When I tried to revisit it about a year ago, I ran into the same problems that you guys experienced. There is a knack to navigating Beggar's Canyon, but I never mastered it.
I remember playing a demo of Rebel Assault at CompUSA back in the day. They had it set up on a PC, but with a mouse for controls, which made it even worse, but I have memories of getting to the next stage. Pretty sure it uses flight-stick style controls, as in, you have to pull up while turning to do a sharper turn. I think that's what was throwing Mike and James off.
***** because these were the days where men were men, women were also men, and so were the boys, and possibly the girls. You didn't get spoonfed information. You figured it out. You are flying a plane in a canyon, you pull up while rotating to make a sharp turn. This is a port of a PC game where we had flight joysticks. It might not be obvious to modern gamers, but when your choices were "go outside" and "play the game, figure it out you fuck." you did the latter if you had the appropriate amounts of vitamin d deficiency.
+Mostlyharmless1985 Hey, being spoonfed information is something I hate about modern games. I'm not asking for the game to shove tutorials down my throat. All I ask is that when I press left, I go left, and when I press right, I go right. I guess I'm just old fashioned that way. I like to think that's not asking too much.
1:38 *HAHAHA, Mike tried so hard to make out that he was explaining vector graphics in real time, but the sudden change in microphone quality let him down. XD*
Loved Rebel Assault on PC. Played with a joystick back in the day, and the game is really meant to be played that way, imo. Basically the control issue was that you needed to pull back (or "down") rather than right because your craft was nose diving into the wall. You were pressing right, and it was already "rolled right" all the way. In addition to this, isn't there a configuration screen to alter the controls? I think you can either select between "flight mode" or "pad mode" or maybe it was Invert Y Axis: On/Off. I can't remember.
Actually, if you press start on sega cd you can invert the controls to flight mode. Also yes, pressing down 100% solves the problem, and it's in the manual.. Sadly thousands of people have seen this and will assume the game is unplayable shit.. too bad. It's actually pretty fun
@@ugzz Yes it is! I played it just now and man does it get your adrenaline pumping :-D Takes some serious practice though after all these years. I WILL beat it soon enough :)
I had Rebel Assault I and II on the PC back in the day. I loved them. I played the thing with a Joystick and I believe it's supposed to be like a plane where you tilt and pull back to turn harder. I imagine it's harder on console of course.
+Woogy Wips Yeah you need to do banking turns. This was how I played it on my mac. It might not even be possible on the Sega controller. Although I think I remember the controller have 8 way movement, not sure.
Yeah, ur bang on correct there. I had the pc version back in the day and later picked up the 3do and sega cd ports cheap. The turning is possible but it's much easier to get the way it works on a joystick. The 3do version looks better than this but the pc one is the one to have.
I love how at 1:47 Mike is still talking as if he's improvising in the room with James. Like he says "you" to refer to James and he start with "Uhhh... well". But the audio is clearly dubbed over so he must have recorded it later. It puts a weird image in my head.
+nemt The only games that made it worth owning was Knuckles Chaotix, Virtua Fighter, Doom, Star Wars, and awesome ports of MK II, WWF Raw, Primal Rage, Virtua Racing, and Afterburner... in my opinion.
Rebel Assault definitely takes some getting used to, in terms of the flight controls and vehicle handling. I struggled with for quite a while before finally "getting it" and progressing through the rest of the game. Rebel Assault II was a better effort. As for Star Wars Arcade for 32X, that game was a real disappointment. After initially being impressed by the graphics, the gameplay bored me to complacency and convinced me to play Virtua Racing instead.
+Peter Skerritt I think I played Rebel Assault once, I just remember seeing that death sequence over and over. I think I also read that there is a shooting stage later where it's like your feet a glued to the floor or something.
+Buc Whovian yeah there are a couple on foot stages in both Assault and Assault II. I actually finished them both back in the day on my Sega CD, still have them stored somewhere. But yeah the controls took a while. You actually have to steer BEFORE you reach the point as the game take s a couple frames to respond.
+HazelCoffeeNut Those were reference jokes from AVGN episode 99 with the Star Wars games. Seriously check out the ending of that video. James was mentioning all those joke games. Lol
+Pimp Master Broda (Voice Trolling) Yes Mike your right! please play that Rogue Squadron for Gamecube! Better yet play it in Coop mode with James in the sequel Rebel Strike!
I remember playing this back when it came out on PC, and basically you have to start your turns like a full 2 seconds before you want to move in order to not crash.
You can't just hold right... you have to hold RIGHT and UP... Holding right will only TILT your ship right, but pressing UP WHILE TILTING right will move you in the direction AWAY from the right wall. Unfortunately doing this will not make the game anymore fun, just less confusing.
+Drumblanket ha yeah that awfull escape level, you would hit stuff and it would jerk the falcon around in an endless pit of suffering and health bar loss that you couldn't quite recover from :D The music is embded in my brain ever since then :P
I wish I could remember more about it. I suppose if I checked out some other videos of the game it might refresh my memory. I remember I really loved the game once I figured out how it worked. It was one of those games that expected you to fail at least 1,800 times before you got it right. I remember it was a 2 disc set and I remember where I bought the game but strangely enough I just dont recall much ABOUT the game lol.
WHERE DID YOU LEARN TO FLY WHERE DID YOU LEARN TO FLY WHERE DID YOU LEARN TO FLY WHERE DID YOU LEARN TO FLY WHERE DID YOU LEARN TO FLY WHERE DID YOU LEARN TO FLY WHERE DID YOU LEARN TO FLY WHERE DID YOU LEARN TO FLY WHERE DID YOU LEARN TO FLY
I had Star Wars: Rebel Assault on PC. I was wondering what that DOS Star War flying game I played a long time ago. Thanks Cinemassacre for remembering that Star Wars game I played a long time ago! But that game is a lot better played on PC than on Sega CD, from the looks. Although I don't remember how well it controls on PC but you do use a mouse (I think, if I remembered correctly).
+David Priestley - I also had a flight joystick for PC during my childhood. I think I used it for Rebel Assault, but I have also used it for the Descent games.
+TDPNeji Back in the day, you would use a joystick for best controls. You COULD use a mouse but we only had roll-ball mouses back then which was terribly innacurate. I played it again a while back using the optic mouses we have today and it was MUCH easier to play.
+TigerNightmare There are 2 kinds of people: the people that say Freespace 2 is the greatest space combat game ever, and the people who have never played Freespace 2.
+TigerNightmare Freespace 2... good lord I remember playing the shit out of that game... The sound of the laser beams from the capital ships charging, while in a nebula... and suddenly the massive beam of energy tearing through the nebula clouds and static discharge coming your way and missing you (or actually hitting you sometimes)... That feeling, omg nobody ever managed to make something as fucking awesome since then.
***** I have just had my PSU and GPU die on me so I reverted back to a 285 GTX, which is nothing like my former 7950 :D But I guess that should be enough to run freespace 2, even modded :P Totaly looking into this ! Thanks for the information !!
If you've ever played...I don't know, ANY flight simulation game, the controls are the same. Left and right adjust your wing orientation. Up and down move you. "I'm pressing right!"...did you guys seriously not try any other buttons or directions on the D-pad? "Oh, this one button didn't work. The game must be broken."
+MegaBadMongo Indeed. They've done this on several videos now where they clearly don't read the instructions and try to figure out the controls without pressing more than one button.
flight simulation games are really at best with a proper joystick, this game was meant for PC and joystick. With a Dpad is kind of a mess to control. With a dpad controls in the style of star fox are more natural and it is what you normaly expect
Yeah ADR can be hard to mix to the original footage and make it sound seamless 😏....especially when it’s recorded in a totally different place and with different equipment 😅
The best parts were when they started talking about those _obscure_ Star Wars titles; and when James handed the controller to the fans! xD It felt so real, the way he tried to hand the controller! Haha!
Actually Star Wars Arcade isn't a version of the old 80's arcade game, but rather a port of an actual 90's arcade game Sega did. I never seen it anywhere except Disney Land, and that one was out of order when I visited in 1994. Also a best description for Beggar's Canyon in Rebel Assault is the following: "Magnets in the walls"
It's obvious that it's not a good game, but it's also obvious that you just have to lead the corners. As in, start turning quite early, otherwise you aren't going to make it.
Rebel Assault 1 on the PC was JUST as hard...that section in particular in Begars Canyon , even with a joystick you had to be REAL delicate when flying.
+Eryk Pawlik It's not about necessity, he wanted to add in some things he may have forgot to mention, and he did so by voicing over parts of the video. Get over yourself.
I remember beating Rebel Assault and I don't remember having anywhere near as much trouble as you guys are having. I enjoyed it but then again maybe that's the nostalgia talking.
"The levels are different. But everything's the same." Yeah, OK. More of these guys being totally Sega ignorant. Whenever James is involved, if it isn't Nintendo, he puts no effort into understanding the games.
Dreadjaws There's 4 extra levels in the "32X" version and a harder difficulty. While, yes, there's more levels of shooting tie fighters, there's also more runs on the death star surface and features more star destroyers. Anyway, my point was referencing how they completely contradict themselves in one statement just to hate on the game.
Star Wars Arcade on the 32X wasn't based on the vector graphics Star Wars arcade cockpit. It was based on an entirely different Star Wars arcade game that existed in the 90s.
+fununcle Actually they had some amazing games on it. Lunar, Lunar 2, Vay, Popful Mail, Sonic CD, Terminator, Mansion of Hidden Souls, the legendary and mythical Snatcher, Spider Man Vs. Kingpen, Rise of the Dragon, Dark Wizard, Shining Force CD etc. Nobody really played them though, only those of us who had them, so nobody knows about them really....
Really? I always felt that the MS-DOS version was a joke! I had the exact same control problems that they did here. RA II was a reasonable improvement, but was still incredibly frustrating at times with a bit of the goofy and imprecise handling sprites over FMV gameplay sequences.
Yea, I don't understand how you can beat Castlevania and not this.... YOUR STUCK ON THE FLYING SIMULATOR TUTORIAL!!!! Rotate the craft and hold down to make the corners... jebus...
I learned about vector in graphic design. Vector is still used just like pixels. Vector is used in the designing industry like creating logos, typography, or any other kind of thing associated with graphic designing. Pixels are used for printing, photos, computer screens, and other stuff. Both of them offer advantages and disadvantages and used for certain situations kind of like how we use planes and helicopters for certain jobs.
Tis the season to remember getting Star Wars games around the Christmas Season. I didn't have a Sega Genesis, 32X, or Sega CD at the time. What I did have was a pretty powerful CD-rom PC of my own. So one Christmas both me and a friend got Rebel Assault, his on the Sega CD, mine for MS-DOS. Now that year he got Star Wars Arcade for the 32X. Which he thought was the coolest Star Wars thing ever... Until he saw what I got: Star Wars: Dark Forces. He was also rather shocked by my getting Star Wars: TIE Fighter that year(it was a couple years after the games were released so they were less expensive so we got a bunch of older games.). Nothing, but nothing was as great as Rebel Assault and TIE Fighter on PC, while using a top of the line flight stick. Release for release, PC platform Star Wars games always came out on top compared to console games.
With rebel assault, the trick was, pushing right or left only 'rolls' the craft and then you would have to 'pull up' to turn to the right. Similar to how Elite Dangerous works. So to turn right where you were crashing heaps. 'roll' right and then up to pull up (or down if up and down controls was inverted) and you'll see how fast the ship will move to the right.
They could easily do vector graphics on the 32x - The 3D provided by the SH2 processors means the power to do simple vectors is already there! They could have done a port of the original arcade if they wanted to. This game was based on the 'Star Wars Arcade' not to be confused with the original Star Wars vector graphics game released to arcades. They didn't help themselves by adding 'arcade' into the title of the newer game, since the original was an arcade game as well.
Rebel Assault controls are awful. But, I had saved up to buy this game and it was one of the few Sega CD games I had back in the early 90's, so I stuck with it. James is onto something when he says that you have to time your moves perfectly and quickly or else the chain of events cannot be stopped. Like a Quick Time game. After I got that concept the game was playable and actually enjoyable. Between rage quits that is. On a side note it is a little better on the 3DO as you can use the Flightstick Pro. Well, maybe not better but different lol
1:46 I believe that explanation by Mike was re-recorded, since it sounds different. Maybe he explained it to James, but the explanation came out confusing, so rather than adding on-screen clarifications like usual, he redid the whole thing.
The content all of you guys have produced this year is fucking awesome. Rebel Assault was one of my favorite computer games when I was a kid. You've gotta play it on the computer with a joystick. Of course it's gonna suck balls on the Sega CD.
To turn sharp is to press up and right at the same time! To turn left is to press up and left. If you press only the left and right you will turn normally. Try that!
According to the manual for Rebel Assault, you have to press UP and Right/Left to turn hard. This would be the equivalent of pulling on the flight stick during a turn to actually turn hard. If you just banked an aircraft, but didn't pull up, it would barely turn.
GUYS go read the manual in the Sky Hopper in order for you to move left or right in any sharp turn you also need to Pull UP when you are turning by press and hold DOWN+Left OR Right.
Guys your getting mixed up yes we had the 80s vector game but there was a later version call Star Wars arcade which had the graphics on the 32x. The Star Wars arcade cabinet was the 90s .......
This is actually based on a newer Star Wars Arcade that uses flat-shaded polygons. The difference between the arcade cabinet version and the 32X version of the game is the arcade version is higher resolution with more complex models and a higher framerate. I can't really fault James and Mike for not seeming to know this because I only recently became aware of this myself. But yes this is not based on the old vector graphics based Star Wars arcade, at least no more than the polygonal arcade version was. There is footage of the actual polygonal Star Wars Arcade right here on TH-cam.
Just a clarification: The Arcade mode in 32x gives you the same levels and missions as on the arcade version of the game. The 32X mode gives you extra missions that are not in the arcade version. Hope this helps.
Vector = point, line, and polygons. Raster = cell size, giving resolution. For example 8-bit means 2^8=256. You get your colors, for example, by taking values from 0-255 in RGB for each individual pixel.
I had some Star Wars game for 32X. Had no idea about what the hell Star Wars was back then, but the game was awesome. I used to play it all the time. Later I got my hands on Star Fox 64 after that was out. So good, so much better.
If I remember correctly, on Rebel Assault, you have to pull back to make sharp turns. Maybe forward if the controls aren't inverted. I could be wrong though.
I remember playing Rebel Assault when it was new and I remember everyone telling me it is amazing....
But I always thought exactly what James & Mike think here.
+Veggie Gamer Yup this game was shit when it came out. I remember it well and it was terrible.
Lord Monkus Yeah, but there were countless people back then telling me it was amazing... they must have been on the payroll or something XD
+Veggie Gamer There was star wars rebel assault for the p.c. It was an MSDOS game. Maybe they were talking about that one because i played that one on pc with a joystick back in the day and it was awesome!
jmatt781 Dude, i bet you're right, arrow keys would be a nightmare! Thank god i had a hip pilot Uncle back in the day that always got me the newest flight sim and joystick every Christmas. I honestly wish i could go back and unwrap all of them again, i got so excited back then!!
Chemdog Ninetyone That's awesome! Man, one of my biggest regrets was getting rid of this kickass flight stick that I was originally using for Mechwarrior 3 and some ww2 dogfight games back in the early 2000's. This thing had torso twisting, a throttle, a secondary thumbstick for looking on the top, and like 12 or so programable buttons. Now that there is a new resurgence of kickass flight games, I really wish that I still had it... such a damn shame.... gah!
Shit, I'm super sleepy. When James offered the controller, I actually reached for it.
The 32x game isn't based off the 1983 game, it's based off of a sega game released in the 90's that wasn't released in the us, and only had a limited release elsewhere. It's a direct port of that game
+Brandon Martinez
It was released in the US, but it was very rare apparently. I actually played it in the arcade when I was a kid.
***** It was? I heard it wasn't. Either way it is a rare game, i had trouble finding a picture of what the game looked like but i found it once.
+Brandon Martinez i know right. james and mike should do maybe a monicum of research before their videos. its like saying super mario bros isnt anything like the arcade mario bros.
+Brandon Martinez I've seen two units of this game. One at a local arcade here on Long Island and another at the Pizza Planet Arcade in Disney MGM Studios. The machine was gigantic to fit two players and a force feedback seat.
Arcade Hunters I live near disney world and have been to mgm studios many times, while there is a sega star wars arcade game at pizza planet, it's not this one, it's a completely different and much better game, star wars trilogy arcade
Star Wars Arcade on 32X is actually a port of the 1993 Star Wars arcade game by Sega. Hardly anyone seems to know about it, so most people assume that the 32X version was a port of Atari's 1983 Star Wars game.
When I was a kid, I made some progress into Rebel Assault on Sega CD. When I tried to revisit it about a year ago, I ran into the same problems that you guys experienced. There is a knack to navigating Beggar's Canyon, but I never mastered it.
I remember playing a demo of Rebel Assault at CompUSA back in the day. They had it set up on a PC, but with a mouse for controls, which made it even worse, but I have memories of getting to the next stage. Pretty sure it uses flight-stick style controls, as in, you have to pull up while turning to do a sharper turn. I think that's what was throwing Mike and James off.
coordinated turn boys. PULL UP WHEN TURNING.
Being 12 and playing it on PC.
+Mostlyharmless1985 Why couldn't they just make you hit left and right to go left and fight like a normal video game?
***** because these were the days where men were men, women were also men, and so were the boys, and possibly the girls.
You didn't get spoonfed information. You figured it out. You are flying a plane in a canyon, you pull up while rotating to make a sharp turn. This is a port of a PC game where we had flight joysticks. It might not be obvious to modern gamers, but when your choices were "go outside" and "play the game, figure it out you fuck." you did the latter if you had the appropriate amounts of vitamin d deficiency.
+Mostlyharmless1985 [slow clap]
+Mostlyharmless1985 Hey, being spoonfed information is something I hate about modern games. I'm not asking for the game to shove tutorials down my throat. All I ask is that when I press left, I go left, and when I press right, I go right. I guess I'm just old fashioned that way. I like to think that's not asking too much.
1:38 *HAHAHA, Mike tried so hard to make out that he was explaining vector graphics in real time, but the sudden change in microphone quality let him down. XD*
Veggie Gamer But it's kind of cool to get concise, correct info rather half remembered, distracted guesswork of the cuff.
"Game is too hard... shitty game."
I swear, 95% negative reviews of all steam-games are from multiple "MM" and "JR" accounts... ^^"
Loved Rebel Assault on PC. Played with a joystick back in the day, and the game is really meant to be played that way, imo. Basically the control issue was that you needed to pull back (or "down") rather than right because your craft was nose diving into the wall. You were pressing right, and it was already "rolled right" all the way.
In addition to this, isn't there a configuration screen to alter the controls? I think you can either select between "flight mode" or "pad mode" or maybe it was Invert Y Axis: On/Off. I can't remember.
Actually, if you press start on sega cd you can invert the controls to flight mode. Also yes, pressing down 100% solves the problem, and it's in the manual.. Sadly thousands of people have seen this and will assume the game is unplayable shit.. too bad. It's actually pretty fun
@@ugzz Yes it is! I played it just now and man does it get your adrenaline pumping :-D
Takes some serious practice though after all these years.
I WILL beat it soon enough :)
I had Rebel Assault I and II on the PC back in the day. I loved them. I played the thing with a Joystick and I believe it's supposed to be like a plane where you tilt and pull back to turn harder. I imagine it's harder on console of course.
+Woogy Wips Yeah you need to do banking turns. This was how I played it on my mac. It might not even be possible on the Sega controller. Although I think I remember the controller have 8 way movement, not sure.
Yeah, ur bang on correct there.
I had the pc version back in the day and later picked up the 3do and sega cd ports cheap. The turning is possible but it's much easier to get the way it works on a joystick. The 3do version looks better than this but the pc one is the one to have.
are you guys gonna play Episode 1 Racer for the N64? I loved that game
+The Channel Fadge Dreamcast version ran smoother, N64 is better with other games.
+The Gaming Paladin It did, but I hated the controls of the Dreamcast game.
+The Gaming Paladin and the PC version ran even smoother :>
MegaBadMongo wouldnt know about that, i'm primarily a console gamer.
+The Channel Fadge I thought I was the only one in the world that liked that game! :D
I love how at 1:47 Mike is still talking as if he's improvising in the room with James. Like he says "you" to refer to James and he start with "Uhhh... well".
But the audio is clearly dubbed over so he must have recorded it later. It puts a weird image in my head.
who cares
Came for the AVGN, stayed for the James and Mike Mondays
I'm dissappointed that nobody mentioned the classic master piece known as Jar-Jar's Jar-Jar Jar.
6:30 this whole conversation was so funny!
One of a handful of games that made 32X worth owning.
This has to be a fakepost.
+nemt The only games that made it worth owning was Knuckles Chaotix, Virtua Fighter, Doom, Star Wars, and awesome ports of MK II, WWF Raw, Primal Rage, Virtua Racing, and Afterburner... in my opinion.
P. Blue If you couldn't enjoy Star Wars Arcade in the 90s you were a shit gamer. Hope that helps.
Eric Sanic Both good choices.
"they just photographed a turd up close" lmao!
Rebel Assault definitely takes some getting used to, in terms of the flight controls and vehicle handling. I struggled with for quite a while before finally "getting it" and progressing through the rest of the game. Rebel Assault II was a better effort.
As for Star Wars Arcade for 32X, that game was a real disappointment. After initially being impressed by the graphics, the gameplay bored me to complacency and convinced me to play Virtua Racing instead.
It certainly does. I played it on PC, and it's not much better with a mouse. Even with a regular joystick it takes some effort to control.
+Gasoline85 Rebel Assault 2 wasn't bad. I hope they try Dark Forces or Jedi Knight.
+Peter Skerritt yeah, but fuck that stage with the giant crystals.
+Peter Skerritt I think I played Rebel Assault once, I just remember seeing that death sequence over and over. I think I also read that there is a shooting stage later where it's like your feet a glued to the floor or something.
+Buc Whovian yeah there are a couple on foot stages in both Assault and Assault II. I actually finished them both back in the day on my Sega CD, still have them stored somewhere. But yeah the controls took a while. You actually have to steer BEFORE you reach the point as the game take s a couple frames to respond.
Governor Tarkin Versus Count Dookie was always my fav Star Wars game!
LOL ( 5:00 - 5:43 ) What in the hell are you guys talking about?
They are just bullshiting based on the star wars episode joke of endless star wars games.
+HazelCoffeeNut I think they trollin us
+HazelCoffeeNut Those were reference jokes from AVGN episode 99 with the Star Wars games. Seriously check out the ending of that video. James was mentioning all those joke games. Lol
I like how James was reminiscing about the Admiral talking to him and the music and Mike just interjects "Alright... I'm Flying!"
Classic shit, this is.
+Pimp Master Broda (Voice Trolling) Yes Mike your right! please play that Rogue Squadron for Gamecube! Better yet play it in Coop mode with James in the sequel Rebel Strike!
+Pimp Master Broda (Voice Trolling) A shitmonster of a game!
+Pimp Master Broda (Voice Trolling) (Wookie groan)
Hi yoda, I only recently saw one of your videos
+Pimp Master Broda (Voice Trolling) GOOD
"Lucy's Italian Movie" reference!!!
I remember playing this back when it came out on PC, and basically you have to start your turns like a full 2 seconds before you want to move in order to not crash.
You can't just hold right... you have to hold RIGHT and UP...
Holding right will only TILT your ship right, but pressing UP WHILE TILTING right will move you in the direction AWAY from the right wall.
Unfortunately doing this will not make the game anymore fun, just less confusing.
Move in diagonal
The Falcon part of Rebel Assault 2 gave me serious trouble but it was amazing once you mastered it. Cover that game soon, Plz!
+Emigdiosback You mean the Tie Phantom, yes it is.
Rebel Assault 2 was amazing.
+Drumblanket ha yeah that awfull escape level, you would hit stuff and it would jerk the falcon around in an endless pit of suffering and health bar loss that you couldn't quite recover from :D
The music is embded in my brain ever since then :P
I wish I could remember more about it. I suppose if I checked out some other videos of the game it might refresh my memory. I remember I really loved the game once I figured out how it worked. It was one of those games that expected you to fail at least 1,800 times before you got it right. I remember it was a 2 disc set and I remember where I bought the game but strangely enough I just dont recall much ABOUT the game lol.
P Ferreira ho the one in the canyons with the fog at the bottom ? Yeah that one was hard too !
i played this game growing up. from what i remember it is a Joystick kind of game.
Rebel Assault on PC was decent. Not only the graphics were much better but you could also control it with an analog joystick
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I had Star Wars: Rebel Assault on PC. I was wondering what that DOS Star War flying game I played a long time ago. Thanks Cinemassacre for remembering that Star Wars game I played a long time ago! But that game is a lot better played on PC than on Sega CD, from the looks. Although I don't remember how well it controls on PC but you do use a mouse (I think, if I remembered correctly).
+David Priestley - I also had a flight joystick for PC during my childhood. I think I used it for Rebel Assault, but I have also used it for the Descent games.
+TDPNeji Back in the day, you would use a joystick for best controls. You COULD use a mouse but we only had roll-ball mouses back then which was terribly innacurate. I played it again a while back using the optic mouses we have today and it was MUCH easier to play.
+TDPNeji PC is just always better haha
+nmryda #PCMasterRace
+TDPNeji Yeah, I remember playing it on PC with a Joystick. Real fun game. Never got passed the Hoth level I think.
Dude... this game looks fucking awesome! How come I'd never heard of this 1993 Star Wars Arcade before?!
Starwars arcade (1993) same year as X-wing on PC, I know which one I'd prefer to play.
+bodybag22 Better still wait two years and play the CD version of TIE Fighter. Best single player campaign in a space combat game ever.
+XH1927 TIE Fighter was good, but I'll always love Freelancer.
+TigerNightmare There are 2 kinds of people: the people that say Freespace 2 is the greatest space combat game ever, and the people who have never played Freespace 2.
+TigerNightmare Freespace 2... good lord I remember playing the shit out of that game...
The sound of the laser beams from the capital ships charging, while in a nebula... and suddenly the massive beam of energy tearing through the nebula clouds and static discharge coming your way and missing you (or actually hitting you sometimes)...
That feeling, omg nobody ever managed to make something as fucking awesome since then.
***** I have just had my PSU and GPU die on me so I reverted back to a 285 GTX, which is nothing like my former 7950 :D But I guess that should be enough to run freespace 2, even modded :P
Totaly looking into this ! Thanks for the information !!
thanks for editing in the segment of you explaining vector graphics, mike
If you've ever played...I don't know, ANY flight simulation game, the controls are the same. Left and right adjust your wing orientation. Up and down move you. "I'm pressing right!"...did you guys seriously not try any other buttons or directions on the D-pad? "Oh, this one button didn't work. The game must be broken."
+Ironcrane2003 J&MM in a nutshell
+MegaBadMongo Indeed. They've done this on several videos now where they clearly don't read the instructions and try to figure out the controls without pressing more than one button.
Oh well, not like it matters at all.
flight simulation games are really at best with a proper joystick, this game was meant for PC and joystick. With a Dpad is kind of a mess to control. With a dpad controls in the style of star fox are more natural and it is what you normaly expect
Yeah ADR can be hard to mix to the original footage and make it sound seamless 😏....especially when it’s recorded in a totally different place and with different equipment 😅
Thank heavens I stuck with PC Star Wars games rather than console. X-Wing series games rocked.
+WilliamBrothers YOU PC BRO?
Check out the PC titles Xwing, Tie Fighter, and Tie Fightet vs Xwing. These are possibly the best Stars Wars space sims ever.
I don't know, the graphics are... balls.
I loved Star Wars Arcade game when I was 3, got to the trenches and everything.
Where did you learn to fly.
The best parts were when they started talking about those _obscure_ Star Wars titles; and when James handed the controller to the fans! xD It felt so real, the way he tried to hand the controller! Haha!
i'm yelling at the screen DON'T ONLY ROTATE THE SHIP, PULL UP AS WELL!!!! (press rigtht AND down, or whatever makes the nose go up)
Actually Star Wars Arcade isn't a version of the old 80's arcade game, but rather a port of an actual 90's arcade game Sega did. I never seen it anywhere except Disney Land, and that one was out of order when I visited in 1994.
Also a best description for Beggar's Canyon in Rebel Assault is the following: "Magnets in the walls"
It's obvious that it's not a good game, but it's also obvious that you just have to lead the corners. As in, start turning quite early, otherwise you aren't going to make it.
Rebel Assault 1 on the PC was JUST as hard...that section in particular in Begars Canyon , even with a joystick you had to be REAL delicate when flying.
Jabba's farts unleashes??
Vector graphics look so slick and pure. That's why they're popular even today with games like Geometry Wars and Inferno.
Why is Mike's voice pasted in to the video on some parts? That's weird.
+UndeadCookieMonster It's a let's play, not a movie. Completely unnecessary.
+Eryk Pawlik It's not about necessity, he wanted to add in some things he may have forgot to mention, and he did so by voicing over parts of the video. Get over yourself.
+Eryk Pawlik It could easily have been a cat meowing, a truck in the background obscuring sound, several coughs or the like in one take.
Cosmic Vacation That's okay.
I remember beating Rebel Assault and I don't remember having anywhere near as much trouble as you guys are having. I enjoyed it but then again maybe that's the nostalgia talking.
"The levels are different. But everything's the same." Yeah, OK. More of these guys being totally Sega ignorant. Whenever James is involved, if it isn't Nintendo, he puts no effort into understanding the games.
+sglider so what was different other than the asteroids ships?
+sglider So, are you going to explain what else is different about those games or are we gonna have to take your word for it?
we need segaism for this very reason
fucking ignorant nintendo bigots
Dreadjaws There's 4 extra levels in the "32X" version and a harder difficulty. While, yes, there's more levels of shooting tie fighters, there's also more runs on the death star surface and features more star destroyers. Anyway, my point was referencing how they completely contradict themselves in one statement just to hate on the game.
sglider So, I don't get it. What they're saying is true, the gameplay is the same, so how are they being ignorant?
Star Wars Arcade on the 32X wasn't based on the vector graphics Star Wars arcade cockpit. It was based on an entirely different Star Wars arcade game that existed in the 90s.
Jesus Sega CD was a shitty console.
+fununcle Actually they had some amazing games on it. Lunar, Lunar 2, Vay, Popful Mail, Sonic CD, Terminator, Mansion of Hidden Souls, the legendary and mythical Snatcher, Spider Man Vs. Kingpen, Rise of the Dragon, Dark Wizard, Shining Force CD etc. Nobody really played them though, only those of us who had them, so nobody knows about them really....
+Sonny Fernandez Also Lords of Thunder, Robo Aleste, Keio Flying Squadron, Android Assault/Bari Arm
I remember Rebel Assaut II, massive improvement in terms of quality and effort in making the game. Pretty decent FMV acting too.
Rebel Assault is a good game. James and Mike suck. They're just not doing it right.
Really? I always felt that the MS-DOS version was a joke! I had the exact same control problems that they did here. RA II was a reasonable improvement, but was still incredibly frustrating at times with a bit of the goofy and imprecise handling sprites over FMV gameplay sequences.
The trick is to play with a flight stick. That's the only way the controls worked for me.
Yea, I don't understand how you can beat Castlevania and not this.... YOUR STUCK ON THE FLYING SIMULATOR TUTORIAL!!!! Rotate the craft and hold down to make the corners... jebus...
Gamefan nailed it... you just hold down and the direction and you move 5x faster. It's in the manual..
That game is trash dude just like your taste lmao
I learned about vector in graphic design. Vector is still used just like pixels. Vector is used in the designing industry like creating logos, typography, or any other kind of thing associated with graphic designing. Pixels are used for printing, photos, computer screens, and other stuff. Both of them offer advantages and disadvantages and used for certain situations kind of like how we use planes and helicopters for certain jobs.
Tis the season to remember getting Star Wars games around the Christmas Season. I didn't have a Sega Genesis, 32X, or Sega CD at the time. What I did have was a pretty powerful CD-rom PC of my own. So one Christmas both me and a friend got Rebel Assault, his on the Sega CD, mine for MS-DOS. Now that year he got Star Wars Arcade for the 32X. Which he thought was the coolest Star Wars thing ever... Until he saw what I got: Star Wars: Dark Forces. He was also rather shocked by my getting Star Wars: TIE Fighter that year(it was a couple years after the games were released so they were less expensive so we got a bunch of older games.). Nothing, but nothing was as great as Rebel Assault and TIE Fighter on PC, while using a top of the line flight stick. Release for release, PC platform Star Wars games always came out on top compared to console games.
Aww man! I love Chewie's Wookie Cookie Cookin'! One of my favorites!
Same
With rebel assault, the trick was, pushing right or left only 'rolls' the craft and then you would have to 'pull up' to turn to the right. Similar to how Elite Dangerous works. So to turn right where you were crashing heaps. 'roll' right and then up to pull up (or down if up and down controls was inverted) and you'll see how fast the ship will move to the right.
They could easily do vector graphics on the 32x - The 3D provided by the SH2 processors means the power to do simple vectors is already there! They could have done a port of the original arcade if they wanted to. This game was based on the 'Star Wars Arcade' not to be confused with the original Star Wars vector graphics game released to arcades. They didn't help themselves by adding 'arcade' into the title of the newer game, since the original was an arcade game as well.
the 1983 sw arcade is one of the most iconic and memorable arcade games ever. amazing for the time.
Rebel Assault controls are awful. But, I had saved up to buy this game and it was one of the few Sega CD games I had back in the early 90's, so I stuck with it. James is onto something when he says that you have to time your moves perfectly and quickly or else the chain of events cannot be stopped. Like a Quick Time game. After I got that concept the game was playable and actually enjoyable. Between rage quits that is. On a side note it is a little better on the 3DO as you can use the Flightstick Pro. Well, maybe not better but different lol
1:46 I believe that explanation by Mike was re-recorded, since it sounds different. Maybe he explained it to James, but the explanation came out confusing, so rather than adding on-screen clarifications like usual, he redid the whole thing.
"Here, play this!" Love that.
Damn dude Mike really knows his game tech
Childhood restored. I played Rebel Assault so much. I once saw the third level. Once.. don't ask me how I did it.
The content all of you guys have produced this year is fucking awesome. Rebel Assault was one of my favorite computer games when I was a kid. You've gotta play it on the computer with a joystick. Of course it's gonna suck balls on the Sega CD.
To turn sharp is to press up and right at the same time! To turn left is to press up and left.
If you press only the left and right you will turn normally. Try that!
If I recall, you gotta press left/right and up to make a sharp turn. Played this a fair bit when I was a kid.
Wow, I played rebel assault on my PC back in the 90s, I didn't know it was a sea cd game
Mike's explanation of vector/raster graphics reminded me of the Brief History of Graphics video. Which is awesome.
According to the manual for Rebel Assault, you have to press UP and Right/Left to turn hard. This would be the equivalent of pulling on the flight stick during a turn to actually turn hard. If you just banked an aircraft, but didn't pull up, it would barely turn.
... totally thought Mike was going to crash and burn explaining vectors but he did a great job.
GUYS go read the manual in the Sky Hopper in order for you to move left or right in any sharp turn you also need to Pull UP when you are turning by press and hold DOWN+Left OR Right.
Off topic I guess but I love that shirt Mike every time I see it.
Guys your getting mixed up yes we had the 80s vector game but there was a later version call Star Wars arcade which had the graphics on the 32x. The Star Wars arcade cabinet was the 90s .......
I remember playing this game on my old 486 PC with 66 megahertz and 4 megabytes of RAM. I was rocking some shit
I bet the guys who created Rebel Assault game are still in the industry.
I had this game on PC as a kid. To make a sharp turn you press the direction you're headed and then down. I liked the game at the time.
I remember playing Rebel Assault constantly on Windows 95 using a joystick.
I thought rebel assault was alright. I can't remember if I beat it
Rebel Assault for PC CD-ROM was great. The controls actually worked.
When your plane is sideways, up is sideways. If you wish to turn faster, increase your climb sideways.
This is actually based on a newer Star Wars Arcade that uses flat-shaded polygons. The difference between the arcade cabinet version and the 32X version of the game is the arcade version is higher resolution with more complex models and a higher framerate. I can't really fault James and Mike for not seeming to know this because I only recently became aware of this myself. But yes this is not based on the old vector graphics based Star Wars arcade, at least no more than the polygonal arcade version was. There is footage of the actual polygonal Star Wars Arcade right here on TH-cam.
That's hilarious. I loved that sega cd game growing up.
Just a clarification:
The Arcade mode in 32x gives you the same levels and missions as on the arcade version of the game. The 32X mode gives you extra missions that are not in the arcade version. Hope this helps.
When James actually tried to hand over the controller, I thought he actually did. Marry Chistmas to me :)
I had Rebel Assault II for PC when I was a kid, I played all the time it was a lot of fun.
Pull up for sharp turns...I figured this out when I was 10.
Inverted (aka standard) flight controls seem to be the bane of gamers raised on NES
I beat Rebel Assault on the Sega CD when I was a tween and I tried to pick it up again today and had a similar experience to James and Mike
I remember back in the day playing Rebel Assault on PC with a joystick. It wasn't any more fun then, either.
Vector = point, line, and polygons.
Raster = cell size, giving resolution. For example 8-bit means 2^8=256. You get your colors, for example, by taking values from 0-255 in RGB for each individual pixel.
Bad games are the best games, it's worth them being made just to watch you guys play them
I had some Star Wars game for 32X. Had no idea about what the hell Star Wars was back then, but the game was awesome. I used to play it all the time.
Later I got my hands on Star Fox 64 after that was out. So good, so much better.
When you said Arcade, I thought you meant the Star Wars Trilogy arcade from the 90's. That was an awesome game.
If I remember correctly, on Rebel Assault, you have to pull back to make sharp turns. Maybe forward if the controls aren't inverted. I could be wrong though.
The second rebel assault game was awesome. It was the closest thing we would get to a new Star Wars movie at the time
The best level in Rebel Assault is when you fight the ATAT Walker. I used to love that game, but there weren't many options for Sega CD ;)
"What's '32x' about this?" -Mike
Merry christmas fellow nerds! Happy adventure!