My Fiancé Wants Me To Sign A Prenup

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  • @NolimitatioNYC
    @NolimitatioNYC 2 ปีที่แล้ว +108

    Another option that Dave doesn't mention is, she can sign a life estate. She gets to live there for the remaining of her life, but the property goes to the kids when she pass.

    • @heff434
      @heff434 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      My thoughts exactly

    • @joeylee9809
      @joeylee9809 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      This option sounds pretty good to me, I believe the kids are not living in that house with them and they are living somewhere else, as soon as the wife passes away then the house goes to the kids.

    • @cbtam4333
      @cbtam4333 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Good compromise.

    • @suebotchie4167
      @suebotchie4167 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Life estate? Make sure it's a good one. Make sure she doesn't lose her rights to live there, because she spent 30 days in the hospital.

    • @laurao8099
      @laurao8099 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That sounds like a good idea at first but it seems like there could be a lot of loopholes and ways for the kids to mistreat the wife obviously there's no way for us to know if that would happen but doesn't mean the kids will like her and respect her as the years go on especially after he passes away

  • @TheNORegretShow
    @TheNORegretShow 2 ปีที่แล้ว +252

    People who say people shouldn't get married if they ask for a prenuptial agreement have nothing to lose. If you have built an empire by yourself, love is not worth losing half of everything. Some people have motives that you will never see until it happens, and it's too late. Always protect your assets.

    • @Argedis
      @Argedis 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Just look at what happened to people like Robin Williams or Branden Fraser. It's heartbreaking.

    • @justme87999
      @justme87999 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Often times more than half. I really dont understand why people get married anymore. Too much to risk for 17.5% chance of happiness.

    • @kagnewcobra5228
      @kagnewcobra5228 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Always, always protect yourself and your assets first. The wisest comment I've read so far! Male or female.

    • @dimediamond
      @dimediamond 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      This is very very very very true. You never fully know people's intentions down the road. Be careful.

    • @MooMoo69556
      @MooMoo69556 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You don’t understand the biblical definition of love then. Therefore you’re wrong. 🤷🏽‍♂️

  • @fhuber7507
    @fhuber7507 2 ปีที่แล้ว +281

    After one divorce, any man who does not get a pre-nup is a fool.

    • @FaintAura
      @FaintAura 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Any man who gets married in the West is a fool.

    • @Ernster86
      @Ernster86 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@FaintAura What do you mean? Most women appreciate their man, are loyal and will stick with you unil you die? LOOOL...

    • @Gingy2002
      @Gingy2002 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Women should definitely do this too. So many women are making bank and not thinking about these things smh

    • @kagnewcobra5228
      @kagnewcobra5228 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@Ernster86 Most? More than 50% . Doubt the veracity of that.

    • @littleripper312
      @littleripper312 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Any man or woman*

  • @Patriotintexas
    @Patriotintexas 2 ปีที่แล้ว +241

    My experience: my fathers (deceased) wife took EVERYTHING. Left me, the only descendant, absolutely nothing. Don't take chances. My story is not unique.

    • @genxx2724
      @genxx2724 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      That’s happened to my dad’s lady friend. Father’s new wife took everything, leaving his children nothing. If you die first, there’s a good possibility your children will be disinherited.

    • @Excalibur2
      @Excalibur2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Happened to my grandparents, home ended up going to unrelated people and nothing went to the kids

    • @guyrose2350
      @guyrose2350 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Yep happened to a good friend of mine, dad set up funds so they could buy a house and for college funds with a few hundred thousands each, he’s still alive but she made him spend it on holidays for her and wiped them all clean!

    • @DavidRamseyIII
      @DavidRamseyIII 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Why were you entitled to anything? She should have got everything

    • @guyrose2350
      @guyrose2350 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@DavidRamseyIII most parents want their kids to get something, parents don’t put money extra money away for the after life, often it’s to help family to move forward and build their lives after the death. Most step parents marry and also care for the children (in childhood and adulthood) in this case, usually that also means the step parent would help if they are able too. Nobody is entitled to anybodies money, but that is usually how it goes, it’s easier with biological parents staying together, as many step parents only play a parenting roll until their partner dies, which is disgusting in itself, I would be so hurt if my step mother did that to me.

  • @sk.n.9302
    @sk.n.9302 2 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    My Dad gave my stepmother the house (she had no children) thinking that upon her passing, it would go back to us, but to our surprise (despite a good relationship) she left the house to her sister!

    • @FabriceLabako
      @FabriceLabako 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That's a good one 😂

    • @chetmyers7041
      @chetmyers7041 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      "Understandings" need to be spelled out in legal documents. Promises and memories can get fuzzy with time.

    • @JudePi-jx7yo
      @JudePi-jx7yo 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Of course. Our's promised us (when everyone was shocked after 2 years together she got the house) the attached farmland to the house she got. That lasted less than 18 months and she sold it. She decided she deserved it. Never worked again after 40.

    • @FilthyMcNasty69
      @FilthyMcNasty69 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What an idiot

  • @KSCzap360
    @KSCzap360 2 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    Always protect your children. She has no right to the property. If she wants a property than they need to buy one on their income together.

    • @genxx2724
      @genxx2724 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      💯 Without the house he didn’t buy, and with only what they can purchase together, he may become less attractive as a spouse. 😆

    • @cm5394
      @cm5394 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      They’re adults

    • @bobbyb7672
      @bobbyb7672 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly!

    • @salaciousBastard
      @salaciousBastard 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@genxx2724 _"💯 Without the house he didn’t buy, and with only what they can purchase together, he may become less attractive as a spouse. 😆"_
      If that's the case, then the front door leading her to her car in the driveway should be the sexiest thing in the room to a man with a brain.

  • @kristinam2719
    @kristinam2719 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    She doesn’t say if she has kids, but why not let her live in the house for her lifetime? Then when she passes, the property can go to the kids.

    • @debbieholoquist2059
      @debbieholoquist2059 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes -- a life estate would allow for her to live there.

  • @defman85
    @defman85 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Prenup. Chances of divorce are too high and the inheritance should stay with the family.

  • @andiclemenza6476
    @andiclemenza6476 2 ปีที่แล้ว +289

    I love Dave’s idea: get a new house for them, do a prenup for the old house and let his kids deal with it when they are grown up. Please stop bringing past relationship’s pain to the new ones 😩😩😩😩

    • @stevenporter863
      @stevenporter863 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      That is playing games. Defeats the whole point of the prenup. I wouldn't be surprised if he calls BS.

    • @patriciabradford1304
      @patriciabradford1304 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I like this idea too. But can't he just make a will and give them that house in it. Is the prenup necessary if its just the house.

    • @aolvaar8792
      @aolvaar8792 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@patriciabradford1304 A Will requires Probate,
      best to title the house so it just changes ownership.
      The house is Titled Unmarried man, sole and separate property (got from parents)
      $175 change the Title to a Beneficiary Title
      (Transfer upon death).

    • @johnSmith-uz8nl
      @johnSmith-uz8nl 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Do you think they have money to pay property tax, insurance, heating for two homes? Dave failed big time on this one.

    • @andiclemenza6476
      @andiclemenza6476 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@patriciabradford1304 i think she said she didn’t want the Will part because then she would have spent her money in a house that in the long run would belong to his kids and not partially to her.

  • @JasonCarmichael
    @JasonCarmichael 2 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    "Life Estate"
    The kids will get the house, the wife has the house until her death.

    • @robertbarron7017
      @robertbarron7017 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      YUP!!! My solution as well.

    • @mikkibates7854
      @mikkibates7854 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      WITH life insurance, in case she needs ot move into another home, or eventually assisted care.

    • @JasonCarmichael
      @JasonCarmichael 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Matthias_Fischer that is what a "life estate deed" is.

    • @trexxy9628
      @trexxy9628 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes! A beneficiary or TOD deed to the kids, life estate with limited powers to the wife

    • @pilotboy3328
      @pilotboy3328 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree with giving the wife a life estate. Simple and inexpensive.

  • @yhckelly
    @yhckelly 2 ปีที่แล้ว +126

    I have seen this with very valuable farms. A widow and a widower in their 70s decide to marry, one side is poor and the other side is very wealthy. Suddenly, because of an elderly marriage, family farms are broken up. It creates huge, huge amounts of resentment and distress. Because of the previous marriages, a prenup should be signed and the house should go to the kids. It's nobody's fault, but making clean lines in messy situations and alleviates a lot of resentment in the long run.

    • @joycejudd5109
      @joycejudd5109 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      in your scenario, give the property to the children and start your new life in a new home. Personally, I would never sign - or ask someone else - to sign a prenup. You either trust, or you don't.

    • @johnSmith-uz8nl
      @johnSmith-uz8nl 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      This happens with big and small estates.

    • @mkirules
      @mkirules 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@joycejudd5109 I say prenups are only needed in situations with kids from previous marriages. That is a different situation that marrying the first time. First marriages I think are never needed.

    • @justinfitzgerald6581
      @justinfitzgerald6581 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You should not have another wife if you can’t love your children more, of course they matter more that women can come and go wherever she wants your kids can’t.

    • @chetmyers7041
      @chetmyers7041 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@joycejudd5109 If your suggestion is "give the property to the kids today," then you have never been burdened with the task of preserving wealth and have a poor understanding of taxes and estate planning.

  • @elizlom
    @elizlom 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    That happened to my very elderly aunt, step kids kicked her out as soon as the husband died to sell the house, she had nothing. A very bad situation.

  • @kirkraszman7998
    @kirkraszman7998 2 ปีที่แล้ว +150

    Easy answer. Don't get remarried. This has disaster written all over it.

    • @John3.36
      @John3.36 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      This is exactly what the Bible teaches, but no one listens.

    • @JDAfrica
      @JDAfrica 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I got married - only way out is in a box. Would never get remarried, had a bad experience once

    • @lauvonfr9222
      @lauvonfr9222 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Right, sounds like a hot mess!🔥🔥

    • @suebotchie4167
      @suebotchie4167 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@John3.36 yep no wiggle room around that one.

    • @suebotchie4167
      @suebotchie4167 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@John3.36 oh forgot to add, neither does the Word give any slack concerning s3x outside of marriage between one man and one woman. Any wonder the heathen rage.

  • @David-wo9un
    @David-wo9un 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Why get married at this point? He is a fool.

    • @aolvaar8792
      @aolvaar8792 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      SSA survivor benefits,
      Retirement medical
      ease of asset distribution upon death

    • @anthonywebster8638
      @anthonywebster8638 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@aolvaar8792 in other words, all benefits for the woman.

    • @aolvaar8792
      @aolvaar8792 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@anthonywebster8638
      ????? No
      She could be the one with the governmental job that pays retirement family healthcare,
      He might not have SSA or lower, self-employed and not making contribution.
      Asset distribution goes both ways.

    • @clarifyingquestions
      @clarifyingquestions 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      More like she is the fool to marry him.

    • @aolvaar8792
      @aolvaar8792 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@clarifyingquestions House rent is $3K/mo in my hood.
      "Free rent"

  • @1HandME
    @1HandME 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    The will can be set up so that once he dies, she can live in the house for the rest of her life. When she dies, the house goes to the kids, back to his family.

    • @COINsimp2024
      @COINsimp2024 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Then the kids can pay property taxes on it.

    • @genxx2724
      @genxx2724 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      That may be many decades. They could be old before they receive their family home.

    • @raallen1468
      @raallen1468 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@COINsimp2024 Property taxes & paying for ALL maintenance & replacement of ALL appliances, furnace, ac, roof, etc etc etc.

    • @Ryan_Woods7
      @Ryan_Woods7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @J Mark Evans This is the way.

    • @1HandME
      @1HandME 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Actually according to the law, the wife has to pay property taxes, and for utilities and bills while she lives there.

  • @brad885
    @brad885 2 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    I could see if it was your second property. I agree with Dave-rent, sell, or give it to the children now.

    • @stevenporter863
      @stevenporter863 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Me too. If it is a second property, yes. As it stands, no.

    • @SSS-wo2hn
      @SSS-wo2hn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      🤦🏽‍♂️. She seems like she is looking for the come up he needs to🏃🏾🏃🏾.

  • @stareagle5000
    @stareagle5000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Answer is simple. Property goes into a trust, the trust allows her to remain in the property and have control of the property but not sell it as long as she is alive if her husband passes on before her, but reverts to his children once she dies.
    This is literally the type of situation that trusts were made for. The whole “fortress” protecting your asserts from liability scenario you hear about with the Uber wealthy is just a byproduct of their existence not what they were invented for.

    • @JustinCase780
      @JustinCase780 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      She's only 45 years old for f'n sake. The guy wants the kids to have the house and Papa Dave gave the answer.

    • @sk.n.9302
      @sk.n.9302 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This is a very good approach. Because my Dad oversaw this detail, when my stepmother passed, the family home & business went to her sister! We were all shocked.

    • @genxx2724
      @genxx2724 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sk.n.9302 That’s the worst. Overlooked, not oversaw. Overseeing means supervising. What was the detail that wasn’t handled properly?

    • @sk.n.9302
      @sk.n.9302 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@genxx2724 Sorry, I grew up having to speak three languages & sometimes things get garbled. My Dad should have added a “clause” in his Will stating stepmom has the “use” the house & a generous monthly income, but when she would pass, it would all revert back to the family. This clause was ommitted, and her sister got everything. Apparently, this happens often.

    • @genxx2724
      @genxx2724 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@sk.n.9302 I’m sorry that happened. Why don’t people THINK??? Why didn’t his attorney discuss his intentions and draft the document accordingly?

  • @216trixie
    @216trixie 2 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    So glad to hear this. I'm in a similar situation although not married yet. My girlfriend and I are in our 50s and 60s. I inherited a house and I'd like to leave it to my kids as it is most of the wealth they might get from me. But you're right what does my future wife do if I die and she needs a place to live what does she do all this time having no ownership in the house? Good question! I have a lot to think about. Separate house for us sounds like the way to go.

    • @aolvaar8792
      @aolvaar8792 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Place the house in a Trust.
      when she dies the trustee can dispose of the trust. Simple

    • @John3.36
      @John3.36 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Leave it to your wife. Let the kids take care of themselves, they are adults now.

    • @aolvaar8792
      @aolvaar8792 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@John3.36 You inherit a multi-million $ house,
      And put a beneficiary deed on it for the wife.
      Can you say Target.

    • @John3.36
      @John3.36 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@aolvaar8792 Target

    • @travisbrueckner4457
      @travisbrueckner4457 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Put it in the will that she can live their until she passes, if you pass first.she can't sell the place, but gets to stay their the same way she always would. It a simple solution

  • @Charismafire
    @Charismafire 2 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    He should give the house to the kids now and move on with his life with his wife.

    • @angelg3642
      @angelg3642 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah bro, just up a HOUSE like its not worth anything (especially in 2022)

    • @joycew.6531
      @joycew.6531 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yup

    • @obiflex
      @obiflex 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      If he gives up all his assets then the woman will disappear instantly. She's just marrying his property but he's too dum.b to know it

    • @andrew8168
      @andrew8168 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@obiflex exactly.

    • @JohnDoe-gc1kt
      @JohnDoe-gc1kt 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@obiflex actually he isn't hence the prenup

  • @teresajasoo2853
    @teresajasoo2853 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I am not a millionaire, but I have a pre nup because the inheritance of my father left us belongs to our family not to our significant other, is very clear between us, what ever we built together is together and we can decided what to do with it. So i do not disagree with a pre nup.

  • @dancebrittany23
    @dancebrittany23 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    You don't see many questions on this channel that really stump Dave. This was a GREAT question!

  • @fsmoura
    @fsmoura 2 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    _"Dear Dave, my future ex-husband has been burned in the past and now he's all jumpy, wary, and cautious, therefore making the process of my acquisition of his assets substantially harder than it needs to be. Please advise."_

  • @evanserickson
    @evanserickson 2 ปีที่แล้ว +109

    Always do the prenup. Iron out custody arrangements and how to split assets before a divorce. That way lawyers don’t get any money. In a regular divorce, the man gets a third (or less), the woman gets a third, and the lawyers get a third. They pit you against each other to try to keep the case going so that they make more on fees.

    • @MultiMates7
      @MultiMates7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      They can still go to court even with a prenup you can dispute prenups if they were signed a long time ago and just say I dont feel the same way.

    • @evanserickson
      @evanserickson 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@MultiMates7 They can, but any lawyer worth his salt can defend a prenup. Especially if it is fair.

    • @aolvaar8792
      @aolvaar8792 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      How is the house Titled, Unmarried man. sole and separate property

    • @wbae1340
      @wbae1340 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      This is so sad that it’s something you would have to consider before marrying somebody. Doesn’t seem like you should be getting married in the first place

    • @genxx2724
      @genxx2724 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@wbae1340 You can stick your head in the sand and decline consider it all you want because you’re too pious for that. The fact remains, that’s what happens.

  • @shawmeck9323
    @shawmeck9323 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    The gentleman just has to outlive her, problem solved.😂

    • @alp.9672
      @alp.9672 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yea why is she assuming she won’t die before him?

    • @a.h.2667
      @a.h.2667 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Statistically women live longer and he's 10 years older.

  • @2005papillon
    @2005papillon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    There is a setup where she is allowed to live in the home for the duration of her life. She has to maintain the house and pay the taxes. But when she passes, or if she remarries, the house becomes the property of the children.

    • @racpatrice
      @racpatrice 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's a good idea! I also thought about what if stepmom and dad have a child but I suppose they can just create an account so that the new baby would get money or stocks instead of the property.

    • @sharalli3112
      @sharalli3112 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Life estate. My thoughts exactly.

    • @2005papillon
      @2005papillon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@sharalli3112 Thank you. I forgot the legal terminology.

    • @genxx2724
      @genxx2724 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Life estate. That was my first thought. But if the kids have a sentimental attachment to the house, one of them might want to live in it and raise their children there, and not have to wait until she’s gone. Giving her a life estate defeats the purpose of keeping the house in the family. That’s why I suggested Ed Slott’s idea of life insurance for her. If he dies, she moves out and uses the insurance to get another place and supplement Social Security.

    • @genxx2724
      @genxx2724 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Life estate also allows her to rent it out. I don’t think that’s the intention here.

  • @HXCORNERSTONE
    @HXCORNERSTONE 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Statistically women leave relationships more so, I don’t blame him at all.

    • @genxx2724
      @genxx2724 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think men instigate it.

    • @UltraPayrollMaster
      @UltraPayrollMaster 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@genxx2724 what you think is different from the statistics.

  • @scott4825
    @scott4825 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nice solution by Dave. I was thinking they needed a 2nd home, but renting out his house and then buying a home together fixes that.

  • @davidlkleinman
    @davidlkleinman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Leave the property to her without the ability to sell and it goes to his kids upon her death. She said she understood his view. This solves both issues. She lives in the house until she dies or chooses to leave. Then the kids get it.

  • @melissal7984
    @melissal7984 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I really like Dave's answer to this awkward situation

  • @charliedallachie3539
    @charliedallachie3539 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    A prenup is the smart move but .. most frown upon it lol 😂

    • @perotal
      @perotal 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      "Women frown upon it"
      There, fixed it for you

    • @fluffyduffyasmr3861
      @fluffyduffyasmr3861 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@perotal wrong.

    • @joecooper8527
      @joecooper8527 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@fluffyduffyasmr3861 No most of the time it's women.

  • @augustinerubio2004
    @augustinerubio2004 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    There's absolutely no benefit for him to get married at that age.

    • @jrwntctv8091
      @jrwntctv8091 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      There is absolutely no benefit to marriage at all. For anyone.

    • @greggpurviance7252
      @greggpurviance7252 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes there is

    • @m.c.8877
      @m.c.8877 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jrwntctv8091 yes and to not be living together than or be in an intimate physical relationship if no marriage. Pre- nups and wills protect people.

  • @SasSaga
    @SasSaga 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I walked through the exact situation. It causes RESENTMENT. Do not sign this. It will never be your home…

  • @kathyhaynes6818
    @kathyhaynes6818 2 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    Only my kids will reap the rewards from my hard work. I've met too many people who are not serious about saving money or being debt free like I have. It seems fair to me that you have the right to pass what is yours, through hard work and/or inheritance, to your own kids. Expect a lot of drama otherwise. If the other person doesn't understand that, they can move on.

    • @DavidRamseyIII
      @DavidRamseyIII 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Good luck finding a partner desperate enough to put up with that insane line of thinking

    • @daffydlwellen1270
      @daffydlwellen1270 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      So, nothing for the new wife, even if she contributes to the upgrade of the property?
      Having someone give you something for nothing is not a great idea

    • @davidleavitt3804
      @davidleavitt3804 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@daffydlwellen1270 then she doesn't need to contribute.

    • @genxx2724
      @genxx2724 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@davidleavitt3804 I’d agree with that. She contributes nothing to the house, and leaves when he dies. That’s not much of a way to live, though.

    • @obiflex
      @obiflex 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I wish most men can reason like this. Dave is setting men up for failure, he can't tell this to women, they won't even let him finish the sentence

  • @marshall2.015
    @marshall2.015 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    She's going to live there for free until her husband dies. That might give her 40 years to save to buy anything she wants. What's the problem? If she doesn't want to live there, then get married and buy a house together like everyone else does.

    • @Draega007
      @Draega007 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      She seems pretty sure that he's dying first. That right there seems like a red flag to me lol.

    • @ErwinSchrodinger64
      @ErwinSchrodinger64 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's what I immediately concluded, as well. It's the entitlement here that is beyond absurd.

    • @marshall2.015
      @marshall2.015 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@Draega007 she's doing inventory of it all before the marriage, scary.

    • @Draega007
      @Draega007 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@marshall2.015 yea it seems highly suspicious that she's already planning a life without her future husband. Kinda scary to be honest. I mean I know we can go at anytime but to be planning before the marriage has even happened is a little wild to me.

    • @Itsdjsigi
      @Itsdjsigi 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The problem is you're blind and aren't seeing the bigger picture lol

  • @mikevera9867
    @mikevera9867 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Here's the solution: DO NOT GET MARRIED!!!

    • @Charlie-gv3zt
      @Charlie-gv3zt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yes!

    • @Price8903
      @Price8903 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      🤣😂

    • @blackworldtraveler3711
      @blackworldtraveler3711 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yeah. I have a girlfriend with her own wealth and I have mine.
      Not getting married.
      No issues.
      This woman apparently has nothing of her own and want security at all costs being over 45.

    • @Eveningbreeze721
      @Eveningbreeze721 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      People aren't going to stop getting married.

    • @djpuplex
      @djpuplex 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Best solution of all keeps everyone non best behavior.

  • @mikewright2858
    @mikewright2858 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Agree that if SHE outlives him, she has to leave the property to the kids? I wouldn't sign something that kicks me out of my home if my spouse dies.

  • @joshuathompson4162
    @joshuathompson4162 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Prenuptial agreements are for divorce not death.

  • @karimbennett5651
    @karimbennett5651 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I agree with Dave. Buy another home that can be theirs and, ultimately hers. Rent out the house he wants to go to the kids.

    • @genxx2724
      @genxx2724 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Tenants won’t take good care of it. The house the kids receive will bear no resemblance to the house they grew up in. Every sentimental detail will be destroyed..

    • @SSS-wo2hn
      @SSS-wo2hn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah that way she can pay half on the mortgage, insurance, taxes, upgrades etc etc.

  • @johnkelley5654
    @johnkelley5654 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Just have the house go to the kids when she dies. She gets to stay in the house and the house still stays in the family.

    • @jacobhinsey
      @jacobhinsey 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      This is a terrible suggestion
      Who pays the property taxes in this arrangement? Who covers the cost of future repairs? The person who squats there with no future equity in the home or the person who owns it but can’t use it?
      Imagine inheriting a house that someone else lives in and you may never have access to use or sell. He is in his 50’s and she is in her 40’s so it’s not unreasonable the children are in their 30’s. She may outlive the children

    • @karimbennett5651
      @karimbennett5651 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think she needs to be up and out of that house upon her husband’s death. Why make the kids wait around for, possibly, decades after he’s gone?

    • @COINsimp2024
      @COINsimp2024 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      And I assume they pay the property taxes and any upkeep then?

    • @genxx2724
      @genxx2724 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@karimbennett5651 💯

  • @FabienneSP
    @FabienneSP 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    My parents have had to sign a prenup, my grandmother insisted. It came in handy when my father had to declare bankruptcy but the business was in my mothers name. They are married this year 50 years.

  • @randomutubr222
    @randomutubr222 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I’m going to push back here: if she loves him, he should understand why he wants to leave the house that is in his name to his children. Ideally, this woman will also come to love his children as well and understand his desire to help them.
    I think some sort of equity share makes the most sense. If she puts in a lot of money along with her husband to improve the value of the house, she should get something out of it when/if this husband dies before her. Essentially the kids can keep the property but buy her out of her equity. Something like that is a fair compromise in my mind.
    I have the same issue. My parents divorced, and my mother kept the house we grew up in and her new husband lives there and has also put a lot of money into improving the house. He has kids too. My brother and I’s general position is “that’s our house…”
    But if I am being realistic, the increased value of that house has a lot to do with the money and work he has put into it. So why shouldn’t his kids get some benefit out of it too?
    I have no idea what their plans in terms of willing away this house. I don’t ask and I don’t care. I care about my mom, not the house. If I get absolutely nothing, then I’ll still live my life just fine. But if his kids are entitled to part of the equity commensurate with what he’s put into it / the value the house has increased from those specific measures, while my brother and I retain the majority of it, then I really don’t have a problem with that. In an ideal world, my parents would have never split and this wouldn’t be an issue. The house would go to me and my brother and that’s the end of it. But we don’t live in an ideal world…

  • @Mr_Fairdale
    @Mr_Fairdale 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    How does Dave know that the past caller who wanted a prenup for his classic car didn’t want to leave it for his kids? Making assumptions without the proper info. Feels like Dave and Co. take the women’s side as the default correct one, no matter what.

    • @LubosMudrak
      @LubosMudrak 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I also noticed this some time ago. He is good with basic money advice but no one should listen to his advice regarding relationships with women. Times have changed and he obviously did not get an update.

    • @raallen1468
      @raallen1468 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@LubosMudrak Dave is a control freak. I'll bet, he is a peach to live with.
      It's Dave's way or the highway. 😡

    • @boston312
      @boston312 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Dave should never advise men to get married in this day and age. No event will destroy a man's life more than modern marriage

    • @AllynHin
      @AllynHin 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dave knows because he took the call and that was discussed. The guy wanted the prenup because he was afraid if his marriage ended in divorce that the wife would want the car. He loved the car so much he didn't want to lose it.

    • @Mr_Fairdale
      @Mr_Fairdale 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AllynHin no. The woman called in. We never heard the man’s side of the story.

  • @astrea79
    @astrea79 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    As long as both parties have their own lawyers to look over the prenup agreement, there's nothing wrong with it.

  • @Paull71937
    @Paull71937 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Unless you plan on leaving sign it

    • @JBCookies8885
      @JBCookies8885 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not true. If he dies before her, she will be made homeless. She could put in thousands of dollars into the house and it wouldn't matter. His kids could evict her and she would only have what she could grab before they changed the locks. It would be easy for them to claim all the furniture too. Too risky. I wouldn't sign it.
      Of course, I have heard of prenups that allow the spouse to live out the rest of their days there. And only after the spouse's death will the kids get it. She's not made homeless. His kids get the house. Everyone wins.

  • @agriope2334
    @agriope2334 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In Agatha Christie's books, if the dad died, the stepmother would get to live there for the rest of her life, and upon her death, the kids would then inherit it. Don't know if that is a real-life thing though.

  • @teresah.6696
    @teresah.6696 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If he dies before her, he doesn't want her to remarry and have another man living there.

    • @suebotchie4167
      @suebotchie4167 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Don't understand how a widow could stand having the sort of man who doesn't have the motivation to own his own house. Guys like that, probably just as lame in the bedroom.

  • @thesuperdingos
    @thesuperdingos 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Yes. Always

  • @richricogranada9647
    @richricogranada9647 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    A couple should be married for at least 10 years to be illegible for 50% rights, in case of a divorce.

    • @lanaj1107
      @lanaj1107 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      A lot of prenups have those sorts of clauses.

    • @genxx2724
      @genxx2724 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Eligible

    • @DavidRamseyIII
      @DavidRamseyIII 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That’s loser behaviour

  • @rosariabirrane2373
    @rosariabirrane2373 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The question is, her being 45, is she not bringing anything in this union? Or does she only want security for her old age from this man? She should already own a house of her own...

    • @user-es5jq6yy9l
      @user-es5jq6yy9l 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      How is that? In what state

  • @Outrageousconduct
    @Outrageousconduct 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I'd run as fast as I can

  • @Colkev2024
    @Colkev2024 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Why get married?

  • @djpuplex
    @djpuplex 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    A prenup is better than nothing however they are thrown out all the time. If she doesn't sign they don't get married full stop.

  • @HisLove4You
    @HisLove4You 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    If they want to stay: A trust! Indicating that if he passes the house goes to her for the remainder of her life ( life estate), and to his children upon her death.

  • @GJH3735
    @GJH3735 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Dave keeps saying it’s the crazy family that feels entitled to money when someone gets married but all I keep hearing about is finances who get upset about prenups when they’re presented with them..

  • @RJRussoVids
    @RJRussoVids 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    They’re not even married yet and she’s already thinking about her inheritance from the guy’s wealth. See what’s going on there?

    • @sariah2425
      @sariah2425 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You have to sign before you get married so why wouldn’t she think about it

    • @Price8903
      @Price8903 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It sounds like he brought it up to her first, by saying this house that we’re going to live in is going to my kids; so if I die first sorry not sorry

  • @too-da-loo
    @too-da-loo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is easy to solve. On his death she is allowed to continue to live there until she passes or remarries.

    • @genxx2724
      @genxx2724 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      So she moves a guy in and doesn’t marry him. His family and friends enjoy the house for decades while the kids drive by, fuming.

  • @mysterio1570
    @mysterio1570 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Good one Dave. The Past is arguing with the Future.

  • @kiraharris919
    @kiraharris919 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why not just put the house in a trust with directions that she gets to keep it and live in it for the remainder of her life and then it goes to his kids once they're both gone? Takes care of her, the house, and the kids

  • @nhgriff1
    @nhgriff1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    When my dad died, we had to buy back my parents's property from my stepmother - property that was inherited from my mother's side of the family!

  • @COINsimp2024
    @COINsimp2024 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sounds like they don't need to be married.

  • @relllife3920
    @relllife3920 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I wouldn't recommend getting married in this day and age until these old outdated laws are improved. Alot of marriages fail, that's just life. Everyone wants to believe they're the "forever couple" but you can't predict what the future holds. It's best to protect yourself.

  • @grantguy8933
    @grantguy8933 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How does she know he will pass first?

  • @yourgooglemeister6745
    @yourgooglemeister6745 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow! The simp squad actually thought this out for a change instead of the usual MAN, BAD!

  • @Gingy2002
    @Gingy2002 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Don't blame him, women should have their husbands sign prenups too.

  • @andytaylor1588
    @andytaylor1588 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    "...to thee all worldy good I give..." is a great part of a marriage vow. Why marry someone you don't love above all others? Give the house to the kids before you get married and have a fresh home together. Do not marry someone who will not invest everything into the marriage. I personally would (if necessary) make a written agreement with my fiancee that the kids get the house after we BOTH pass on.

    • @Jim_Curtis
      @Jim_Curtis 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You would not be saying that if you have been on the other side of a divorce. It does not matter nowadays whether a woman is christian or not, they all act similar in divorce because the laws in family court heavily favor them without a valid prenup. Just doing a written agreement will not hold up in court and if he passed first, she could end up fighting with his kids over assets. And by gifting the house while he's alive, he screws himself over with gift tax to pay, no step up in cost basis on the house and higher tax bill for his kids if it later gets sold. Great idea dude!

    • @obiflex
      @obiflex 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Marriage vows are worthless and completely useless

    • @Jim_Curtis
      @Jim_Curtis 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@obiflex Yeah they are only for feeling good at the ceremony. No marriage vows in family court

  • @johnwilson5743
    @johnwilson5743 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Firstly, the Property is NOT being managed correctly in this case. If he wants it to be solely an asset that he owns and that will be passed to his children then he CANNOT use marital income to maintain the house. Because half of the marital income (both hers and his) belongs to her. A Financial Planner is required to sort this out, backed by legal control.

  • @MartianAmbassador69
    @MartianAmbassador69 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Dude's going to lose his family farm, and his kids are going to resent him when this dried up roast beef divorces him.

  • @jamaicaninthekitchen4358
    @jamaicaninthekitchen4358 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So who is the wife a stranger .Don't marry him or buy your own house and rent it out to pay the mortgage.

  • @JDMcHaley
    @JDMcHaley 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you're considering a prenup, don't get married. You're not ready yet.

  • @joshua38410
    @joshua38410 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Here’s the thing: if he doesn’t marry her in the first place, she gets nothing. So if her retirement is not in good standing right now, she’s just using him to have a comfortable retirement and something to lean on. His kids should, undoubtedly, get the house. She can save for her own retirement.

    • @DavidRamseyIII
      @DavidRamseyIII 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good luck ever getting married and staying married with that attitude. Yikes. My condolences for whatever loser would marry you

  • @AbileneRN
    @AbileneRN 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm a new widow. Dave is spot on.

  • @rositagocoo1932
    @rositagocoo1932 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If the agreement is fair and reasonable the. Sign it if its unfair then dont sign it

  • @hermanhenderson966
    @hermanhenderson966 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Don’t get married just keep your assets and build yourself up. Marriage is a financial disaster waiting to happen. Its like knowing the Great Depression is going to happen and leaving your money in. Just don’t.

  • @hairynames9704
    @hairynames9704 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    She walks in with nothing, and already wants half of his house.

  • @lischatham7771
    @lischatham7771 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My mom did this. The home my father built is not going to her new husband. My sister rents it and they got a new one.

  • @the_truth21
    @the_truth21 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Why get insurance on your new car? You’re already setting up your self for a car accident if you buy car insurance.

  • @patty109109
    @patty109109 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good advice from dave today!

  • @christophercreekmore9187
    @christophercreekmore9187 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I'd end the relationship. Irreconcilable differences. Don't get married just to get divorced!

    • @judye2805
      @judye2805 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      My Lawyer once told me that he had an aunt that married a gentleman (they were both 60 + years). His grown children were cold to her because they were upset that she would get everything of his if he passed away first. He did purchase a sizable Life Ins Policy on himself that would take care of his new wife and his children would get his assets on his passing. They all lived happily ever after. . . .

    • @obiflex
      @obiflex 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@judye2805 That's a beautiful arrangement, this is the only option that I appreciate in these comments. I can rather do this but live together and not get married

  • @johnSmith-uz8nl
    @johnSmith-uz8nl 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Did Dave just say... this man wants to keep the house in the family so that means the wife can't have the house???!!!! Did Dave just say the wife is not family? I don't know the jests but the prenup can be tweaked.... to accommodate her very valid concerns.

    • @DavidRamseyIII
      @DavidRamseyIII 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah that was really strange. Normally Dave is anti prenup except in the case of extreme wealth imbalance and even then he would typically not answer the question this way. Going into a marriage this way is pathetic behaviour

  • @rosspimental8384
    @rosspimental8384 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Poor advice. She can get a life estate in the property meaning she has right to occupy after his death and until hers but has no right to transfer, sell, encumber, or leave the property for anyone else. Her estate can also be credited for improvements to the property that were made during her lifetime/with her funds. Some states automatically make this legal assumption in these type of situations but it’s best to have a wills and estates attorney draft a will and prenuptial agreement.

  • @fcosta94
    @fcosta94 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I feel that if the man solely owns the property, he should be the only one to maintain the property with his own money. But I agree with Dave’s suggestion to buy a new property together and rent out the other property. Another option could be that the woman could buy a property and rent it out as her own.

  • @GrumblesM4
    @GrumblesM4 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I agree 100% Dave!!! Make it a rental and move on

  • @kratz57x
    @kratz57x 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The way I heard the letter I think you missed something. Sounded to me like there's "property" that his parents left him that's SEPARATE from their home.

  • @paigeawin
    @paigeawin 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    We all knew Dave was going to say "yes" to a pre-nup. duh. He ALWAYS advocates for a pre-nup for EVERY situation.

  • @cassandracasteel4085
    @cassandracasteel4085 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My grandmother 3rd husband wanted it to go to his kids. What they did was if he died first she had a life lease then the kids got it after her death

  • @ashleyb1091
    @ashleyb1091 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think she is more worried her future when he passes. If she is putting money and taking care of the house with him and suddenly the house is not hers. She is worried about where she is going to live. If I was the guy I would want to make sure the person I am marrying is taken care of before I die. I think them getting a condo or something that is low maintenance would so much better. When you get old the less is better and gives your more opportunity to live, get a minimal house or condo and he can put the old house in a prenup for the kids.

  • @Colombia20102018
    @Colombia20102018 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I will put the house on the kids name now to avoid any schinanigans later.

  • @Crew4Life
    @Crew4Life 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The man is right!!!.. But I also understand her point. They shouldn't get married

  • @mynameisbetty1767
    @mynameisbetty1767 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If you need a prenup then she ain’t the one lol

  • @debbieholoquist2059
    @debbieholoquist2059 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What about changing the deed to a life estate? Then she could live there the rest of her life. However, I would prefer the idea of buying a different home for them to live in as husband and wife.

  • @billsmith360
    @billsmith360 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    He and the house was there before she walked in. Life insurance will buy her a house if need be. He needs a prenatal NO MATTER WHAT.

    • @genxx2724
      @genxx2724 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I’ve brought up life insurance since the day this video was posted. Zero acknowledgment from anyone that this is the solution.

  • @travisbrueckner4457
    @travisbrueckner4457 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Let her stay at the property until she dies if he passes first and upon her passing it will go to them. She isn't allowed to sell it. But has right to stay thier until she passes. Simple

  • @lindathomas8080
    @lindathomas8080 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had a friend that she would stay in the house after he passed until she passed then it went to his kids

  • @TheQueenEC
    @TheQueenEC 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Give the house to the kids now and move into a new place for each other to build a life together in your new marriage. That’s if money is not a huge issue.

  • @kizk1737
    @kizk1737 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Give her a life estate and then it reverts back to the children

  • @DavidRamseyIII
    @DavidRamseyIII 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I got mega rich off a business young and married a broke uni student. I cannot imagine the damage that would have been done trying to keep things seperate with a prenup. Yuck

  • @mike7933
    @mike7933 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don’t know why they have to get married? Inviting the state in your love life is a dumb idea. Just add her to the will. That is all

  • @pimpnamedslickback7780
    @pimpnamedslickback7780 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Im not even trying to be funny but if you don't want to have kids there's zero reason for any man to get married. Financially speaking it's the dumbest move you can make. The risks are way too high

  • @tamaraterherst6794
    @tamaraterherst6794 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My dad will be in the same situation when he finds a new wife. The farm is a multiple generation farm. We as the kids would never kick our dads wife out of the home. We might would take ownership but she is my Dads wife so she can stay there until she passes as well. That could even be something that is put into legal documents.

    • @laurao8099
      @laurao8099 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That is really incredible in your situation. Unfortunately we do not know how other kids might treat the wife especially if the dad passes first. It seems like a lot could go wrong in that situation for other families. But that is really nice that it would work for you and your family

  • @davidphones7290
    @davidphones7290 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    lol she’s already counting on her future husband dying first. What a WONDERFUL start to a happy marriage 🙄