Half ll Zoey, The Best Bless Enabler in the Game | ARKHAM INVESTIGATOR DISCUSSION #35

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  • @RatherIncoherent
    @RatherIncoherent  8 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Lost my mind and fully misremembered the text on ll Zoey when talking about combo'ing with Nepthys. That doesn't work as Zoey's ability considers the bless removal a cost, and negating that removal with Nepthys means that the cost isn't paid. Bit sad about that, tbh.

    • @EyesOnTheTreeline
      @EyesOnTheTreeline 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Same. It is technically consistent with other rulings they have so I like their consistency but it would be cool.

  • @DancingTewi
    @DancingTewi 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    I like hearing you saying runic axe is busted lmao 😂 such a meme.

  • @EyesOnTheTreeline
    @EyesOnTheTreeline 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Unfortunately they ruled that you can't use the 3 blesses you pull out with Zoey's ability to get both Zoey's effect and Nephthys's effect (If you seal them on Nephthys then they are considered "sealed" and not "removed" since Nephthys is a replacement effect so Zoey's effect fizzles). Still a good way to enable Nephthys testless damage though.
    I love blessed Zoey. If anyone on my team wants to use blesses I volunteer to play her every time.

  • @HatterLelouch
    @HatterLelouch 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Heads up if you can edit this before it goes live to non channel members there's an error at 7:34 where you mix up the front and back versions :)
    Outside of that another amazing breakdown of a character I don't often see at my table and now likely will because of this video 😂

    • @RatherIncoherent
      @RatherIncoherent  8 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@HatterLelouch Sadly I can't edit it, but not the biggest deal. Thanks for the heads up.

  • @michaelhawkins4169
    @michaelhawkins4169 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    I think Blessed Blade (4) deserves a mention. It'll let you have a survival knife and be able to trigger her ability multiple times a turn and keep the bag full. it is a little silly.

    • @RatherIncoherent
      @RatherIncoherent  8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      My main issue with it is just the prohibitive exp cost and what I have to delay for it. I don't think it's bad at all, I just find it hard to justify buying it before most other things.

    • @AFistfulofDynamite
      @AFistfulofDynamite 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I like pairing Blessed Blade (4) with The Key of Solomon (4). Lots of XP but lots of payoff, especially if you have good targets for healing, like some Beat Cop (2)s.

    • @RatherIncoherent
      @RatherIncoherent  8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@AFistfulofDynamite I will definitely say, not that it's reflected in my rankings very much at all, that high exp ll Zoey are some of the coolest fighter decks in the game. Stuff like that is a fantastic example of exactly why.

    • @Chiungalla79
      @Chiungalla79 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@RatherIncoherent
      Do you really argue that 4 XP in the Blessed Blade (4) are prohibitive, while routinely putting 10 XP into the Runic Axe?
      You get a Blessed Blade (4 XP), 2 Survival Knifes (2) and an upgraded Prepared for the Worst (2) for the same XP as 2 Runic Axes (10).
      And with parallel Zoeys front the Blessed Blade (4) basicly does 3 damage once per turn.

    • @michaelhawkins4169
      @michaelhawkins4169 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@Chiungalla79well…10 xp does pay for two axes. So better to compare 10 for two axes vs 10 for two blades and a survival knife.

  • @WilliamAXavier
    @WilliamAXavier 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I'm currently running a pure || Zoe with double beat cop (2) with key of Solomon to heal each of them 2 health per round, super effective at filling the chaos bag with bless tokens and satisfying testless damage

  • @sevento7
    @sevento7 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    'Funfact. Zoey (non parallel) was my perfect middleground for my tierlist. The first question was always: Above or below Zoey.

  • @DancingTewi
    @DancingTewi 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Astounding revelation with stick to the plan is awesome.

    • @shaxberd7211
      @shaxberd7211 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Astounding Revelation with Stick to the Plan is definitely cool, but sadly it doesn’t work.
      Back in 2023, FAQ 2.0 stated that:
      (1.26) Searching During Setup
      If an investigator is instructed to search a deck for 1 or more cards during setup, abilities that trigger when a deck is searched (such as Mandy Thompson’s reaction ability or abilities on Research cards) cannot be resolved, as the game has not yet begun.

    • @moooseman3
      @moooseman3 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That combination does not work. You can't activate abilities while searching for those cards before the game begins.

  • @Gaspard-z9r
    @Gaspard-z9r 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Runic axe ?
    Runic axe ✅

  • @emergency.jergens
    @emergency.jergens 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Praying for more gaurdian weapon diversity enablement with the drowned city

    • @Chiungalla79
      @Chiungalla79 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      That's really hard to do in Arkham. It's easy to design new weapons. But they will only really contribute to diversity if they are different, strong AND not overpowered.

    • @hammerdall
      @hammerdall 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I’m a little surprised his play group hasn’t just soft banned Runic Axe at this point. They’ve banned Delve Too Deep, but at least that can enable other interesting builds instead of shoe-horning you into the same optimal build every campaign

  • @joeyrobson3677
    @joeyrobson3677 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    7:33
    Do you mean ||Front & Vanilla back right?
    I was very confused for a moment

  • @natang.delyra9583
    @natang.delyra9583 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Should Runic Axe always have Sriptweaver, Saga and Ancient Power?

    • @RatherIncoherent
      @RatherIncoherent  8 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      As main fighter, pretty much. Saga is necessary to not run out of charges. Ancient Power is necessary to deal with 3+ hp enemies effectively. Scriptweaver is worth massive amounts of accuracy and charges. It's the most optional of the 3, but it's also incredible once you have the other two.

  • @thepwn121
    @thepwn121 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Zoey is hiding her runic axe in Barnabys Basement Boat (B.B.B) which is highly illegal. Someone get Roland to obtain a Search Warrant.
    I can't believe people still use runic axe. They should all be shamed for power gaming. Smh

    • @Chiungalla79
      @Chiungalla79 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      And with Runic Axe soft banned and the Cyclopean Hammer nerfed by taboo... the guns would seem way more fairly balanced all the sudden.

  • @emergency.jergens
    @emergency.jergens 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Did Amina move down in your list?

    • @RatherIncoherent
      @RatherIncoherent  8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@emergency.jergens Technically yes. It's more accurate to say I've been convinced of moving everyone beneath her up for various reasons. I'm not totally sold on all of them, particularly Bob and Sefina.

  • @Chiungalla79
    @Chiungalla79 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Bless enabling is too easily maxed out to care about who does it best.
    But that she can put the bless tokens to a good use too makes her good.

    • @RatherIncoherent
      @RatherIncoherent  8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@Chiungalla79 I suppose a better day to articulate what I meant is "She's the best character that enables bless," more than that she's better at enabling bless than others.

  • @WayOfHaQodesh
    @WayOfHaQodesh 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    At this stage the tier list needs to get updated with the new investigator Runic Axe - Guardian Gator Supreme: Deck Building Requirements - Choose any main Guardian or even off class Guardian, their stats and gator card ability doesn't really matter, just pick one. Deck size: 2 x Runic Axe + Signature Cards and Weakness + Basic Weakness (other cards are irrelevant, merely filler cards, just jam anything in there).

  • @yuzu-6245
    @yuzu-6245 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    op guardian melee weapons makes me sleep.. 😴