Any students watching this video who may be in the course I'm assisting with: Transcription conventions are slightly different here. This course is based around the conventions in upper-division phonology, so things might be different.
Hello, the Cambridge dictionary splits the word mistletoe as /ˈmɪs·əlˌtoʊ/ for the American pronunciation. It seems the stressed syllable gets as much consonants in the onset and coda as it can. What is the right way to syllabize this word?
I have a question about the syllable boundary for 'mistletoe'. As the first syllable of this word is a stressed one, does it mean that we cannot leave short vowel /i /sound there without a coda? I guess that's why people put syllable boundary after /s/...
Many thanks for your efforts , really you make things easy . IF you can make a video deal the Optimality theory and generative phonology ,I will be thankful.
Wow TheTrevTutor You do an amazing job on these basic English linguistics. I am amazed and speechless. BTW I would like to understand how can one master the language from learning or teaching alphabet to the advanced English. Could you help me with syllabus or how to go about it? Also what is the method that you employ in making these videos?
Hi, thanks so much for your videos, I find them really helpful. I just had a question about syllable boundaries in "mistletoe" - " /ˈmɪs.əl.təʊ/" (from the Cambridge dictionary) - so why isn't the "s" the coda for the first syllable rather than the onset for the second? I didn't really understand your explanation in the last part of your video... Many thanks again for your videos!
I'm not sure why the cambridge dictionary puts the /s/ in the coda of the first syllable. That's not how Canadians/Americans speak, and from what I've gathered from video clips, most british english dialects don't pronounce it that way either. The maximum onset principle says "shove as many sounds into an onset as a language permits, then dump the loners in codas" in colloquial terms. It matches how we speak.
TheTrevTutor Thanks for your quick response! I'm a BrE speaker so was using the BrE version, I'm not great with North American accents. Possibly regional differences or something!
Is there any official reference with these phonotactic rules for different languages? (i.e. what can go into the onset in these languages) Also I wonder how does this apply to longer strings of sounds - how do we know where one word ends and another word starts? (If you saw Xidnaf's videos about syllables and words, you probably know why I'm asking about that ;J )
Have no idea who Xidnaf is. Phonotactic rules will be part of different books or articles. There's no book or reference that merges them all together. It can actually be difficult to find these things even for researchers sometimes.
This is great! Thank you! What about a word like BASKETBALL? I have a very strong tendency to put the SK cluster with the second syllable, but Ive been told that Im incorrect: Ba.sket.bal ; Ive been told that it should be: bas.ket.bal
In phonology, ba.sket.bal is absolutely correct and it’s how it’s pronounced. In an English class though they may split between two consonants and tell you bas.ket.bal, but that’s not how it’s pronounced.
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Any students watching this video who may be in the course I'm assisting with:
Transcription conventions are slightly different here. This course is based around the conventions in upper-division phonology, so things might be different.
Hello, the Cambridge dictionary splits the word mistletoe as /ˈmɪs·əlˌtoʊ/ for the American pronunciation. It seems the stressed syllable gets as much consonants in the onset and coda as it can. What is the right way to syllabize this word?
I have a question about the syllable boundary for 'mistletoe'. As the first syllable of this word is a stressed one, does it mean that we cannot leave short vowel /i /sound there without a coda? I guess that's why people put syllable boundary after /s/...
cambridge dictionary demonstrates mistletoe as this: /ˈmɪs.əl.toʊ/. which one should we use exactly, is it an argumentative area?
Many thanks for your efforts , really you make things easy . IF you can make a video deal the Optimality theory and generative phonology ,I will be thankful.
Optimality Theory will be after Feature Geometry.
Everything introduced so far has been generative phonology.
You really make things easy for me , I thought that generative Phonology something different ,>Titles losing us sometimes . Thanks for respond .
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You do an amazing job on these basic English linguistics. I am amazed and speechless. BTW I would like to understand how can one master the language from learning or teaching alphabet to the advanced English. Could you help me with syllabus or how to go about it? Also what is the method that you employ in making these videos?
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Hi, thanks so much for your videos, I find them really helpful. I just had a question about syllable boundaries in "mistletoe" - " /ˈmɪs.əl.təʊ/" (from the Cambridge dictionary) - so why isn't the "s" the coda for the first syllable rather than the onset for the second? I didn't really understand your explanation in the last part of your video...
Many thanks again for your videos!
I'm not sure why the cambridge dictionary puts the /s/ in the coda of the first syllable. That's not how Canadians/Americans speak, and from what I've gathered from video clips, most british english dialects don't pronounce it that way either.
The maximum onset principle says "shove as many sounds into an onset as a language permits, then dump the loners in codas" in colloquial terms. It matches how we speak.
TheTrevTutor Thanks for your quick response! I'm a BrE speaker so was using the BrE version, I'm not great with North American accents. Possibly regional differences or something!
Onset maximization is not universally accepted for English. See John C. Wells's article 'Syllabification and allophony'.
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Is there any official reference with these phonotactic rules for different languages? (i.e. what can go into the onset in these languages)
Also I wonder how does this apply to longer strings of sounds - how do we know where one word ends and another word starts? (If you saw Xidnaf's videos about syllables and words, you probably know why I'm asking about that ;J )
Have no idea who Xidnaf is. Phonotactic rules will be part of different books or articles. There's no book or reference that merges them all together. It can actually be difficult to find these things even for researchers sometimes.
This is great! Thank you! What about a word like BASKETBALL? I have a very strong tendency to put the SK cluster with the second syllable, but Ive been told that Im incorrect: Ba.sket.bal ; Ive been told that it should be: bas.ket.bal
In phonology, ba.sket.bal is absolutely correct and it’s how it’s pronounced. In an English class though they may split between two consonants and tell you bas.ket.bal, but that’s not how it’s pronounced.