I have 2 of these. It is my full time carry weapon. I have put over 2000 rounds through one with no jams or malfunctions. It feels great in your hands. The break down isn't as bad as people are saying.
A year later, and my CCP is my primary carry. I never thought I'd be parking my Nightmare Carry .45 for a 9mm, but there you go. The rounds in mine are, of course, some of the best documented defensive ammo you can get for a 9. But the firearm itself is immaculate. I've grown to absolutely love this thing as my grab-it-and-go gun #1.
Picked this up a couple of weeks ago based on your review and I couldn’t be happier! Your instructions on disassembly/assembly are better than what’s in the manual! The tool Walther gives isn’t the best. A 3/32 punch works better! Thanks so much for a great review! You’re the best!
You do such a good explanation of the gun before you take it to the range, than tell the distance and show the results of one mag on the target makes your reviews to be the best
I own 1 of these guns and let me say it is the most comfortable hand guns I've ever held , totally happy with it and the trigger is smooth , almost no recoil in my opinion .
I've had the CCP for almost a year now with roughly 1000 rounds through it. Disassembly/reassembly: Practice makes it a non-issue. Trigger: When you pull it with live rounds, there is a significant improvement versus dry firing the trigger. It is like a short, very light double action pull. Recoil: Snappy to me when I first shot it. But this last time I went to the range, I alternated shooting this and a Glock 19. I'm plenty comfortable and adept with the Glock platform. I was surprised to find that the difference in felt recoil was negligent to me. I've trained with the CCP to the point that I am fully confident I can shoot it as accurately as a Glock 19. Feeding of ammo: I've only had a couple failures to eject with factory ammo, which only happened after firing 50+ rounds rather quickly and the gun got noticeably warmer. I have a bag of reloads that the CCP doesn't like at all; the reloads render the gun into a single shot firearm. So stick with factory ammo (don't you want to feed good food to your baby anyway?) and be patient training with your firearm, whether it's the CCP or something else. Oiling the moving internals in the CCP helps a bit too. Between training and consistent lubing, I feel like the trigger has just kept getting smoother for me. Really underrated gun.
First time gun owner. I baught my CCP in April. Im scared to death of guns but im doing very well with it. Love the safety on it. Thats one of the main reasons i bought it. Great gun for women with health issues (vertigo). Best investment ever...
Another great review, thanks. My EDC is a Walther PPK by S&W. Another great blowback design that helps with bullet impact & recoil. Take down with any firearm is a pain until you do it more than two times. My reloads for the .380 PPK allow me a lot of time on the range, 1K+ & enjoying each trip to the range.
Just bought my wife this pistol so she can get her concealed carry with it! First place I looked too for information was your channel! Glad you're still with us here on TH-cam!
I completely forgot that Don has a daughter, he often mentions his son(s) though. By the way your daughter is a beatiful young woman Sootch. You must proud to be keeping shooting sports alive with your kids.
bought this gun today....literally because the grip felt amazing! single stack 9mm, easy slide pull and nice thumb safety....what a great gun. I'll make a video about my opinion on safety levers on guns.
I would just like to say I enjoy your videos and I'm a big supporter of the channel. I'd just like to say thank you for another video for us and have a great day.
Good things come to those who wait! The salesman at Rural King told me yesterday to keep checking the RK Guns website a few times a day as out of stock items mysteriously reappear. I was on the site since I got up this morning and Lo and Behold, MY Walther CCP Talo Edition reappeared a couple hours ago and I jumped on it like a flea onto a Blue Tick Hound!! The CCP will be a welcome brother to my Ruger LCP, Taurus PT111 G2, and Taurus Tracker "The Judge" 4410. All I need now is a M1A Abrams and I'll be all set for SHTF!! Yes, I have a BOB ready as well! Thanks again for your super great video and review of the CCP. You, Hickok45, Nutnfancy, and Military Arms Channel gave me all I needed to know how great this pistol is. God Bless You and America!!!
I just bought it a few days ago and took it to the range yesterday (same two-tone version). I was shocked at how little recoil there was. I assumed the "Softcoil" design feature was more of a sales gimmick than a functional improvement, but it really is an amazingly soft shooter, even one-handed. As a concealed-carry pistol, there are many other better, smaller, higher capacity micro 9mm options, but as a fun gun to take to the range, it's a great value.
I always enjoy your reviews, without question you are one of only a few who do what I consider a comprehensive detailed review regardless if it a firearm or a backpack. I opted for the PPS for the very thin profile, and the paddle mag release. The majority of my handguns are HK for a number of reasons one being the paddle mag release. I bought the PPS to rotate between it and the HK P2000sk. Depending on what suit I'm wearing the PPS with its thin profile conceals a bit better. Thanks for all you, you do it very well!!!
You just sealed the deal for me on the CCP. I was on the fence with how much grief every one has given it but with such good reviews from you and hitchok45 this will likely be my first CCW.
I love this pistol, and it has become my EDC. I've written on a few other videos about. In synopsis, most of the complaints are valid. Takedown is nutty (although for a quasi-gas [delayed blowback] system, it's not so much the takedown, per se, it's the operation of the latch) and the trigger is gritty with an indeterminate reset. But as I've argued, this isn't a target pistol or a pistol for spec ops (although naturally every Internet poster is an operator, lol). It's a self-defense weapon. I've done some work with it from a draw, and when actually engaging a close target, the trigger isn't noticeable. At all. I like the trigger a heck of a lot better than that on my LC9. What I like about this gun is one primary thing: It always goes bang, and exactly where I thought it would. And on the second bang, the second shot goes... exactly where I thought it would. And again and again. With no failures in over 500 rounds. It feels great, it shoot great (for me), the point of aim out of the box is great (for me)... I wish more folks would shoot this from a draw rather than just staring at it in videos or squeezing the trigger at a gun counter. It's a terrific PDW. I have everything. Glocks, Sigs, Rugers, Colts, S&W's, FN's (I love these, too), even Taurus (the old revolvers from the early 90's that were out of this world awesome). I carry the CCP.
Just got my first Walther and yes the CCP is amazing. Thanks to your review I went to Top Guns in Terre Haute, IN and looked over all the options and the CCP was the best for me. Keep up the good work sir !!
Hey Sootch your review was excellent as always! My wife picked this out at the Harrisburg NRA show because of how it felt in her hands. SHE LOVES IT!! Super accurate! We've currently shot about 800 rounds through it and I have had 2 failures to feeds at the beginning. Broken in now it's awesome. Rarely any misfeeds and it's a very smooth shooter. You are spot on with the trigger. It does get better with more rounds and you don't notice it at the range. You're the 1st person I've heard say that and it's exactly my take on it. The whiners about the take down I'm sure have never had a 1911. Get over it! after a few times you get totally used to it and it's so not a problem. Awesome gun! Thanks again.
Sootch is quite correct in saying the Walther has what is perhaps thee best hand grip. Ergonomics is king here with these guns. I bought my first Walther just recently, a PPX, after hearing it review by Sootch and others. Walther now, will be tops on my gun shopping list.
My fiancé is looking at a CCP for her first handgun. I'll be sending her this video for her to watch while I'm at Physical Therapy. Thank you for the great review.
Hi Soocth And as always, thank you for your nice work with making these videos. Just bought my first book about all types of firearms, in English, but that's okay. I got inspired some years ago, after seeing your videos, and now I'm just waiting for you to Release new videos. My favourite guns, 1911 and Walther. And then anything else that says "bum". Keep up the good work. Thank you, from Denmark.
Just bought the weapon for my wife, I loved it. Even being a large man, my grip felt more comfortable than my duty glock 17 for work. I will be getting a Walther I the future for myself as well.
This has been my EDC gun for over a year. There are two issues with the CCP that reviewers do not cover. The first is ammo sensitivity. Use the right ammo - it does not have to be expensive - just use the brands that work. For me, Sellier and Bellot, Blazer Brass, Sig Sauer and Hornady work without issue. Not a single problem with any of these through thousands of rounds. Some other brands will drive you crazy with FTE's and stovepipes. Just sayin'. If you purchase the gun, find what works for you. The second issue is heat. I have ten magazines for the CCP and go to the range with all of them. After 80 rounds the slide becomes very hot. Your thumbs will not want to be anywhere near it. Bring another firearm to the range when practicing with it. In his review, Sootch covers many other points quite well, including the trigger, the ergonomics and the disassembly. It is a fair and reasonable review, and stands up very well three years later. The CCP is a fine gun, but it's not for everyone. Much like a girlfriend, you'll either love it despite the quirks or you'll find you can't be bothered. Just my opinion. Peace to all.
Bought one for my wife...Shoots well...feels good in the hand. was able to keep the gun on target round after round. One issue I had was that my thumb/hand would hit the clip release when shooting...had to hold the gun in an awkward way in order not to hit the release...not good for my size hand...Perfect for My wife...she loves it...
Thank you for showing a close-up of how the sear and fining pin block work. I wish more gun reviews would show that. A demonstration of the reset mechanism with the slide off would be a nice addition too. Walther has a really great trigger design from the P99 and PPQ with a dual-sear system that results in a super crisp break. Walther even has a patent on the design, so it's only found on P99 variants and licensed derivatives like the Canik TP series. I'm really puzzled that they didn't use it for the PPS, which uses a Glock-like system and the CCP, which looks to be similar to the M&P with a single pivoting sear that rotates out of the way of the striker catch.
Fantastic review! All the points that I find worth covering were dealt with. The comparisons with the other Walther relevant models was also on point, shown along side the PPQ with regard the grip texture (my single gripe with the PPQ, that the CCP fixes with it's implementation), and the already available long established in this single-stack market-hype (but that sadly often gets overlooked) PPS (a mainstay in my carry rotation because it's so AWESOME). The trigger, the takedown (that will plague this pistols potential for broader interest forever.. I mean HK P7 made it easy peasy back in the '70's why does this need a tool?) Good, bad, quirks, gripes, areas of interest, etc. every part was covered completely. Great review. That culprit for the gritty trigger pull is likely the transfer bar and that sear mechanism that releases the striker.. Transfer bar looks like a stamped steel part that wasnt smoothed at all and the simple sear mechanism is obviously a MIM part that too wasnt smoothed out at all. Here's a link to a fellow's vid that totally disassembled this pistol. A great assist in getting it done if you want to get to that part that causes the grittiness in the trigger pull. ( th-cam.com/video/O78kjWgaDUc/w-d-xo.html ) Ultimately it really is a bone simple tool, not that many parts at all and like the PPX an example of Walthers new approach to a more simplified process of manufacture for the entry level class of pistols. Conceived to be built to a balance of price point and quality. Keeping the tool a tool and not some high priced fancy safe queen or range toy. Blowbacks get dirty, so much of the slide innards are quite open like the striker channel. Easiest way I've found to clean it is to use a product like 'gunscrubber', spray it out, it cleans everything in second, let it dry, lightly clp. Also keep in mind that it was designed to run dirty as its 'normal', much like the HK P7, the piston wasnt intended to have to be pristine and spotless to function. Piston and chamber are designed to run just fine when modestly fouled, so a sensible cleaning but no need to get all OCD with it.
I have carried the Shield, the Glock 43, but now they sit in the safe. My weapon for every day carry is my Walther CCP. I have a PPS m1 and m2. But the CCP is an awesome gun. A lot of people cry and complain about the take down. But if you'll spend 30 minutes taking it down numerous tomes it will become second nature. I hope Walther will come out with the CCP in 40 cal.
Thanks for another great video! I am sharing this video with a young mother who inquired about a home defense gun on a online forum. I will also share a couple of your other videos with her to help her out. Thanks!
i had just looked at one in my local shop the other day and OMG it was one of the most comfortable handguns ive ever held and as a side note the one i looked at had a purple frame which my girlfriend loved and it did look pretty cool
I sure wonder if the R&D Team of Umarex/Walter took measures to stay clean of the heat buildup the HK P7 had with a similar delay system. Versus the P7 the Walter CCP got this gas trunnion housed in a polymer frame. So there is potential for the same issues that got the HK G36 in trouble - they re-housed an Stoner AR18 with its minor heat issues into a poly-frame and due to that the trunnion is swimming in its position once it reached the melting temperature of the polymer.
Bought 2 of these in 2017 for about 220.00 each sportsman's guide great deal and great little firearms never a problem both are the stainless steel on black.
Very interesting system. It is like a gas operated firearm, only backwards. Very interesting indeed. Not including the recoil reduction piston, the design is close to the Raven Arms, haha. I am sure the quality is far better.
I have this and it fires consistently and accurately. With live fire, the trigger is fantastic and very smooth. Dry fire is different. Two negatives, the reset is long and after about 50 rounds at the target range, the slide is too hot to touch. This is understandable because of the design. The rest of the pistol stays cool but just be aware of this part of its personality. Wonderful CCP!!!!
Hey Sootch , I experienced the same problem with the trigger pull. It does get easier , but I came across Lucas gun lube oii & what a big difference. Easier, smoother action. Thanks for the great video.
I like the easier racking slide. After a hand injury, I have reduced grip strength when gripping a slide. Not enough to notice in everyday life, but the position I hold my hand in aggravates the injury. I've changed how I grip a slide to work around it with other guns, but it's a nice margin of safety. Practice those 1-handed racking and clearing drills, people. You never know when you may need them.
Wow Don this gun offers a really nice package for Concealed Carry. Thanks for the review. I usually don't hear too much about Walthers but I'm always considering one.
I think the safety may only be on there for import reasons. ATF has their scoring system for imports with barrel lengths, calibers, capacities, etc, and I'm pretty sure that's why it is on there. If they contracted S&W to manufacture them in the U.S. like they did with PPK's, they might be able to have a version without the manual saffety
After 1 year of daily carry I can say that I strongly prefer a thumb or "on the frame" safety. Just fits my usage better. For daily carry I will only ever consider those with thumb safeties.
Red Rider7 Imo.... I can't give you a dozen but this is off the top of my head; HK, Sig, FNH,S+W, Springfield, Walther, and CZ are as reliable as Glocks. HK had polymer before Glock. Also Glock didn't invent striker fired pistols. What Glock did was make the first reliable, polymer, striker fired handgun that was affordable . Glocks are GOOD guns at a GOOD price with tons of aftermarket parts but it's not 30 years ago. One can't say that they are great as the first thing that happens to a new Glock is the crappy sights get replaced, then one retextures the grip, then the trigger isn't that good so one drops in a new after market one, after that it's a new guide rod, and might as well get a Lone Wolf barrel. So did one really get that BEST handgun in the world out of the box that the glocktards think they are? Don't get me wrong I would tell anyone looking to buy their first handgun to seriously consider a g19 but just don't get tunnel vision with all the hype Glocks have.
Red Rider7 you said that Glock developed polymer pistols and everything else was an imitation, I just listed the big "innovations" that Glock didn't invent that makes it so good. So really Glock is the copycat. What did Glock innovate then? I have 2 in mind so let's see what you can come up with. Secondly as far as asking what MODEL all the companies I listed that are as DEPENDABLE as a Glock take your pick, some more than others, but hell how about any revolver made by Smith and Wesson or Colt, the classic line of Sig's (p220, 226, 229, ect), and any HK, the entire FNX/FNS line from FNH( remember we are talking reliability not capacity or weight or ect). You are the one making grandiose claims so I think the burden of proof is on you. 30 years ago I wouldn't have argued with you as Glock did set a standard but due to Glocks lack of bringing ANYTHING new to the table in the last 30 years they no longer are the only game in town. Notice how nowhere did I say Glocks suck! They are what they are and that's a GOOD gun at a GOOD price nothing more nothing less. One can MAKE a Glock into a great pistol with upgrades but you ruin the price point which is half of what makes them good. ONLY a glocktard gets butt hurt when someone says that there gun of choice is a good one and would be recommended to a new shooter buying a first firearm! Fanboys of every other manufacturer seem to at least acknowledge criticism of there favorite brand. PS when someone "limp wrists" a Glock IT IS A MALFUNCTION as the gun DID NOT cycle properly in a real world situation(injury, strength, or just plain tired). I can hold my FNH/FNS as loosely as I would if it was made of Jell-O and I CAN'T cause it to not cycle properly! :p
Take down and gas piston port are major turn offs but that trigger is a deal breaker. It reminds me of the Taurus Milenia That was creepy and crunchy . Overall a great review, Thanks for including your daughter, always enjoy such a pretty smile.
I have been experimenting with both my own CCP and my son's and have discovered something potentially alarming. In fact it's what the Chinese engineer talked about & that I referenced in a post below several weeks ago. His explanation makes it seem as though an uncocked striker with a live round in the chamber is possible but highly unusual, but my experience says that the occurrence is far more likely than that. Using snap-caps, I load the magazine. Then I introduce the mag into the pistol, striker uncocked. I rack the slide till I can engage the slide stop and let the stop hold it for a second. I then lower the slide stop with my thumb and the slide goes into battery as it chambers a round. Unfortunately, about 1/2 the times with my pistol the slide returns to battery WITH THE STRIKER UNCOCKED, i.e. with the firing pin exposed and thus hitting the primer on a live round. (My son's pistol is newer and unfired as yet, and while it isn't as easy to do with it what I describe here, it's NOT impossible since I've done it twice, both times with snap-caps. I suspect that as the pistols are broken in, the possibility of this happening actually increases.) I know in the latest issues of the pistol that Walther includes a warning to retract the slide fully, thus indicating the company is aware of this danger. But this ignores the fact that, when retracting the slide manually with an empty magazine inserted, the slide stop always pops up and holds the slide. If, unawares, the user drops an empty mag and inserts another loaded one, then depresses the slide hold with his thumb, the chance for an accidental discharge is there. My suggestion would be the inclusion of a warning that users should always retract the slide manually fully after inserting a fresh magazine to return it to battery, and never depend on simply thumb lowering the slide stop.
Nice review. thanks for doing so much with just one hand... That is the way most gun fights occur ,even police shootings. PLS include some rapid-fire sequences next time, at shorter distances since this also is common to most gun fights. keep the honest reviews coming.
archersfriend My first handgun was a Colt 1911-A1, so a pistol having a safety is not a problem as far as I am concerned. I have never had a problem with tucking a cocked and locked .45 into my waistband, (and by that, I mean without a holster) but I will not do that with any of my Glocks...no way. And it never bothered me doing the same with a Browning Hi-Power...even though it does not have the grip safety that the 1911 has. But with a Glock, I need a holster to be able to do the same.
I really do not need anyone telling me what to buy but thanks for the video as I like to see what others say about a product. I bought the CCP and fell in love with it. It fit's the hand a lot better then the S&W Shield which I didn't like at all. Due to a disabillty I needed a lighter gun then my regular carry gun which is a sig P320C in 357 sig. The people that complain about the trigger on the CCP I can only say you can get use to it. I found no problem with the trigger after a few rounds. The only thing I do not like is the take down for cleaning, but while it is harder then most it is easier then my Glock 27. I hate the having to hold down the 2 serrated piece's at the front while removing the slide. I carry my CCP loaded with Winchester silver tip's and feel almost as safe as I did with my Sig P320C in 357 sig. Go to the store and check this great little gun out for your self.
Awesome vid. Only drawback I have is the fact that some people who like a built in safety you mentioned were "novice". I happen to like a built in safety if there are no, for example, a trigger or back strap safety.
Thanks for the informative review. So far, I have not seen any offerings from any manufacturer that would cause me to give up my Shield. Best carry gun I have ever had. Tough, reliable, accurate, and very comfortable to carry IWB.
ive had one of these, very nice compact comfortable guns, i found it in excellent shape with original case and mags etc for $300 otd at a pawn shop. youd be surprised at what you can find at a decent pawn shop an they are more willing to work with you to move stuff that they got by loaning someone else money that they need to recoup.,ive boughten aN HK p30 v3 with night sights, case and 3 mags for $465 OTD. only because it sat there for a year as no one liked 40s. but new that gun runs close to $1,000, i wish i never sold it but got an $800 offer on it i couldnt turn away.
Your daughter is gorgeous. She reminds me a lot of an old high-school friend of mine. My dad picked up the CCP for his... well... CCP haha. It has its issues, but overall we both like it. I love how it feels like a mini PPQ (this novice's competition gun of choice) and is just as accurate. The PPS is also an excellent choice but I hate the PPS's ergonomics (other than the awesome trigger-guard mag release, which I'm one of the 3 people who like it apparently).
Recently picked one up and it handles well and is fun to shoot. Walther quality throughout. It has a better in hand feel than my Glock 27 and is much sexier...
Have you done a review on the Walther Creed? I am really impressed with mine, concidering being a $350 gun. I'm really fond of Walther's anyway. I have several, and did have a CCP. Didn't like the take down process. But still, I still have a PPQ 45, Creed 9mm, PK380, and a P22, love them all.
Another great review, Sootch, Thank you. Please do let us know if you have any success with smoothing up the trigger. I'm betting that you will be able to smooth it out a bunch.
Bought P22, to take to the range with my CZ p01, after I saw your review, and less expensive .22 ammo, fell in love with feel of the Walther, and wanted a PPS, in 9mm, turns out the P22 is the only Walther for sale in California, starting to really piss me off
Just found your channel. Your videos are professional and informative. Working on getting a concealed carry. I thought I wanted a S/W Shield now I am very interested in the Walther CCP due to reduced recoil. I hope the shooting range I want to go to have both pistols to try out. I have learned a lot from watching you. I also enjoy your videos on EDC. I hope to get my EDC stocked and ready. I am a novice and excited about learning to shoot.
Have you ever compared the Chronographed bullets to other guns of the same barrel length. My dad was a cop back in the 90's and carried one of the HKP7M13 which is similar to the CCP. In all of the shootings he heard of the bullet wasn't doing any damage and bad guys were getting hit multiple times and continued to fight. My theory was that the gas hole bled gas off and reduced the pressure used to propel the bullet meaning lower velocity. They used Gold Dot 147 which are slow and the gas leak slowed it down even more, this reduced expansion of the hollow points had little effect on armed suspects. One guy was hit with all 13 rounds and even ran away from the pursuing cops nearly a mile. he was found and survived and went to trial.
+zedirich7 Interesting question, I'd also like to see a measured comparison between similar length barrels. Regarding the issue of bad guys not going down, I think it's important to remember that advances in ammunition capability probably make that less of an issue today, even if there is a slight velocity bleed-off with the gas system.
conghelach Sure its exaggerated, but back in the 90's people would say the 9mm will tickle a man to death. I mean that if you are attacked by an armed man and you hit him 6 times and he doesn't stop you'd crap your pants. Stories like this one spread and was one reason for switching to 40S&W (yes there is more to the story). With modern 9mm things like this are less likely and drugs may have played a role, I mean drunk drivers are more likely to survive even the worse car accidents.
Great review as always. I still think for a single stack she is quite beefy. A buddy of mine just got the springfield 9 mm single stack and I found it to be quite impressive. Didn't hurt that he got 5 mags for it either from the summer deals they run.
Took my CCP to the range today and probably put around 120 rounds through it. Here's something some may not be aware of. If you shoot it with two hands for an extended period of time, the frame where your off-side thumb normally rests, gets rather hot. Never noticed this with any other pistol. It's caused by the gas system on this pistol.
bought this gun 1 year ago and had a great grip and shot great. One year later the damn thing rattles like crazy because the gas piston is loose. I called Walther and they say the piston rattle is normal. Then I asked if the engineers built a gun that was designed to rattle. Walther said that they had a room full of CCP's in for recalls (safety not working properly) and they all rattled. WTF Buyers remorse to the MAX
Great review! Obviously a nice pistol. But isn't "most ergonomic" kind of subjective? For me, the best feeling CCW pistol is the Kahr P or CW 9 (I just traded off a Shield to buy a CW9), with my Ruger LC9 a little behind. I think what I don't like is all the weird shaping manufacturers do to the grip of some pistols. It has to hit you just right. My Kahr, especially, seems to be just a reduction in size from the 1911 silhouette. And the way that 15 oz. pistol handles recoil is just amazing.
Keep in mind these are made by Umarex (yes the airsoft people) not Walther. Yes, price is lower than a PPS, but so is quality. Look for the antler proof mark, not the crown, to be sure you are getting a true Walther.
Walther 9mm CCP weighs 22.3oz. It is a fine polymer pistol. An all metal, Kimber Ultra Carry II in .45ACP is 25oz. Quite a step up for and additional 2.7oz
Oh, I forgot to mention that if you email Walther with your serial number, they will send an improved take down tool with a metal tip. I got mine within two weeks at no charge. Another reason to like this pistol.
I have 2 of these. It is my full time carry weapon. I have put over 2000 rounds through one with no jams or malfunctions. It feels great in your hands. The break down isn't as bad as people are saying.
A year later, and my CCP is my primary carry. I never thought I'd be parking my Nightmare Carry .45 for a 9mm, but there you go. The rounds in mine are, of course, some of the best documented defensive ammo you can get for a 9. But the firearm itself is immaculate. I've grown to absolutely love this thing as my grab-it-and-go gun #1.
Picked this up a couple of weeks ago based on your review and I couldn’t be happier! Your instructions on disassembly/assembly are better than what’s in the manual! The tool Walther gives isn’t the best. A 3/32 punch works better! Thanks so much for a great review! You’re the best!
CCP bi tone is beautiful. Love that grip and just the beautiful/sleek of the Walther. Thanks Sootch.
You do such a good explanation of the gun before you take it to the range, than tell the distance and show the results of one mag on the target makes your reviews to be the best
I own 1 of these guns and let me say it is the most comfortable hand guns I've ever held , totally happy with it and the trigger is smooth , almost no recoil in my opinion .
Picked this gun up last week. Most comfortable handgun I've ever held.
Kevin bond There's a recall......check it out bud.
Spec-Op 4 will do...thx for the heads up.
Mail it in, Walther fixes it and mails it back, free of charge. It's only a drop safety issue, but get it fixed anyway.
Contact Walther USA first, and they will tell you how to send it in for "upgrades".
I've had the CCP for almost a year now with roughly 1000 rounds through it. Disassembly/reassembly: Practice makes it a non-issue. Trigger: When you pull it with live rounds, there is a significant improvement versus dry firing the trigger. It is like a short, very light double action pull. Recoil: Snappy to me when I first shot it. But this last time I went to the range, I alternated shooting this and a Glock 19. I'm plenty comfortable and adept with the Glock platform. I was surprised to find that the difference in felt recoil was negligent to me. I've trained with the CCP to the point that I am fully confident I can shoot it as accurately as a Glock 19. Feeding of ammo: I've only had a couple failures to eject with factory ammo, which only happened after firing 50+ rounds rather quickly and the gun got noticeably warmer. I have a bag of reloads that the CCP doesn't like at all; the reloads render the gun into a single shot firearm. So stick with factory ammo (don't you want to feed good food to your baby anyway?) and be patient training with your firearm, whether it's the CCP or something else. Oiling the moving internals in the CCP helps a bit too. Between training and consistent lubing, I feel like the trigger has just kept getting smoother for me. Really underrated gun.
First time gun owner. I baught my CCP in April. Im scared to death of guns but im doing very well with it. Love the safety on it. Thats one of the main reasons i bought it. Great gun for women with health issues (vertigo). Best investment ever...
Another great review, thanks. My EDC is a Walther PPK by S&W. Another great blowback design that helps with bullet impact & recoil. Take down with any firearm is a pain until you do it more than two times. My reloads for the .380 PPK allow me a lot of time on the range, 1K+ & enjoying each trip to the range.
Just bought my wife this pistol so she can get her concealed carry with it! First place I looked too for information was your channel! Glad you're still with us here on TH-cam!
I completely forgot that Don has a daughter, he often mentions his son(s) though.
By the way your daughter is a beatiful young woman Sootch. You must proud to be keeping shooting sports alive with your kids.
bought this gun today....literally because the grip felt amazing! single stack 9mm, easy slide pull and nice thumb safety....what a great gun. I'll make a video about my opinion on safety levers on guns.
Man, you make that breakdown look simple compared to everyone else that seems to struggle with it.
I would just like to say I enjoy your videos and I'm a big supporter of the channel. I'd just like to say thank you for another video for us and have a great day.
Good things come to those who wait! The salesman at Rural King told me yesterday to keep checking the RK Guns website a few times a day as out of stock items mysteriously reappear. I was on the site since I got up this morning and Lo and Behold, MY Walther CCP Talo Edition reappeared a couple hours ago and I jumped on it like a flea onto a Blue Tick Hound!! The CCP will be a welcome brother to my Ruger LCP, Taurus PT111 G2, and Taurus Tracker "The Judge" 4410. All I need now is a M1A Abrams and I'll be all set for SHTF!! Yes, I have a BOB ready as well! Thanks again for your super great video and review of the CCP. You, Hickok45, Nutnfancy, and Military Arms Channel gave me all I needed to know how great this pistol is. God Bless You and America!!!
I just bought it a few days ago and took it to the range yesterday (same two-tone version). I was shocked at how little recoil there was. I assumed the "Softcoil" design feature was more of a sales gimmick than a functional improvement, but it really is an amazingly soft shooter, even one-handed. As a concealed-carry pistol, there are many other better, smaller, higher capacity micro 9mm options, but as a fun gun to take to the range, it's a great value.
I always enjoy your reviews, without question you are one of only a few who do what I consider a comprehensive detailed review regardless if it a firearm or a backpack. I opted for the PPS for the very thin profile, and the paddle mag release. The majority of my handguns are HK for a number of reasons one being the paddle mag release. I bought the PPS to rotate between it and the HK P2000sk. Depending on what suit I'm wearing the PPS with its thin profile conceals a bit better. Thanks for all you, you do it very well!!!
Black Bullitt Thank you my friend.
You just sealed the deal for me on the CCP. I was on the fence with how much grief every one has given it but with such good reviews from you and hitchok45 this will likely be my first CCW.
I love this pistol, and it has become my EDC. I've written on a few other videos about. In synopsis, most of the complaints are valid. Takedown is nutty (although for a quasi-gas [delayed blowback] system, it's not so much the takedown, per se, it's the operation of the latch) and the trigger is gritty with an indeterminate reset. But as I've argued, this isn't a target pistol or a pistol for spec ops (although naturally every Internet poster is an operator, lol). It's a self-defense weapon. I've done some work with it from a draw, and when actually engaging a close target, the trigger isn't noticeable. At all. I like the trigger a heck of a lot better than that on my LC9. What I like about this gun is one primary thing: It always goes bang, and exactly where I thought it would. And on the second bang, the second shot goes... exactly where I thought it would. And again and again. With no failures in over 500 rounds. It feels great, it shoot great (for me), the point of aim out of the box is great (for me)... I wish more folks would shoot this from a draw rather than just staring at it in videos or squeezing the trigger at a gun counter. It's a terrific PDW. I have everything. Glocks, Sigs, Rugers, Colts, S&W's, FN's (I love these, too), even Taurus (the old revolvers from the early 90's that were out of this world awesome). I carry the CCP.
Awesome! Thanks for the rundown
Just got my first Walther and yes the CCP is amazing. Thanks to your review I went to Top Guns in Terre Haute, IN and looked over all the options and the CCP was the best for me. Keep up the good work sir !!
Hey Sootch your review was excellent as always! My wife picked this out at the Harrisburg NRA show because of how it felt in her hands. SHE LOVES IT!! Super accurate! We've currently shot about 800 rounds through it and I have had 2 failures to feeds at the beginning. Broken in now it's awesome. Rarely any misfeeds and it's a very smooth shooter. You are spot on with the trigger. It does get better with more rounds and you don't notice it at the range. You're the 1st person I've heard say that and it's exactly my take on it. The whiners about the take down I'm sure have never had a 1911. Get over it! after a few times you get totally used to it and it's so not a problem. Awesome gun! Thanks again.
Sootch is quite correct in saying the Walther has what is perhaps thee best hand grip. Ergonomics is king here with these guns. I bought my first Walther just recently, a PPX, after hearing it review by Sootch and others. Walther now, will be tops on my gun shopping list.
I was looking at some compacts for my wife and this one really stands out above the rest.
Sootch - brilliant to include ladies in the vid. Helps us guys give our wives reasonable choices in their firearm purchases. More, please! Thank you!
I literally just bought mine yesterday and I agree about the grip. It felt amazing in my hands. Can't wait to hit the range today!
As always great review. If the CCP had the same trigger as the PPQ, this would be the best selling single stack out there.
Paul Givens PPQ does have a special trigger that is for sure. That trigger almost convinced me to buy one.
My fiancé is looking at a CCP for her first handgun. I'll be sending her this video for her to watch while I'm at Physical Therapy. Thank you for the great review.
You da best. That is all I want to say. Just pleasure to watch your videos. Thanks a lot for making and sharing those GREAT review videos. Regards,
Hi Soocth
And as always, thank you for your nice work with making these videos.
Just bought my first book about all types of firearms, in English, but that's okay.
I got inspired some years ago, after seeing your videos, and now I'm just waiting for you to
Release new videos.
My favourite guns, 1911 and Walther. And then anything else that says "bum".
Keep up the good work.
Thank you, from Denmark.
Just bought the weapon for my wife, I loved it. Even being a large man, my grip felt more comfortable than my duty glock 17 for work. I will be getting a Walther I the future for myself as well.
One of the best reviewers on the Web!
This has been my EDC gun for over a year. There are two issues with the CCP that reviewers do not cover. The first is ammo sensitivity. Use the right ammo - it does not have to be expensive - just use the brands that work. For me, Sellier and Bellot, Blazer Brass, Sig Sauer and Hornady work without issue. Not a single problem with any of these through thousands of rounds. Some other brands will drive you crazy with FTE's and stovepipes. Just sayin'. If you purchase the gun, find what works for you.
The second issue is heat. I have ten magazines for the CCP and go to the range with all of them. After 80 rounds the slide becomes very hot. Your thumbs will not want to be anywhere near it. Bring another firearm to the range when practicing with it.
In his review, Sootch covers many other points quite well, including the trigger, the ergonomics and the disassembly. It is a fair and reasonable review, and stands up very well three years later.
The CCP is a fine gun, but it's not for everyone. Much like a girlfriend, you'll either love it despite the quirks or you'll find you can't be bothered. Just my opinion.
Peace to all.
Bought one for my wife...Shoots well...feels good in the hand. was able to keep the gun on target round after round. One issue I had was that my thumb/hand would hit the clip release when shooting...had to hold the gun in an awkward way in order not to hit the release...not good for my size hand...Perfect for My wife...she loves it...
Can't wait till my daughter gets of age to take her out to the range with me. Sis looks like a natural & no doubt you've taught her well.
Your video on the PPQ sold me on it. Love Walther! Thanks Sootch!
Thank you for showing a close-up of how the sear and fining pin block work. I wish more gun reviews would show that. A demonstration of the reset mechanism with the slide off would be a nice addition too.
Walther has a really great trigger design from the P99 and PPQ with a dual-sear system that results in a super crisp break. Walther even has a patent on the design, so it's only found on P99 variants and licensed derivatives like the Canik TP series. I'm really puzzled that they didn't use it for the PPS, which uses a Glock-like system and the CCP, which looks to be similar to the M&P with a single pivoting sear that rotates out of the way of the striker catch.
Fantastic review! All the points that I find worth covering were dealt with. The comparisons with the other Walther relevant models was also on point, shown along side the PPQ with regard the grip texture (my single gripe with the PPQ, that the CCP fixes with it's implementation), and the already available long established in this single-stack market-hype (but that sadly often gets overlooked) PPS (a mainstay in my carry rotation because it's so AWESOME). The trigger, the takedown (that will plague this pistols potential for broader interest forever.. I mean HK P7 made it easy peasy back in the '70's why does this need a tool?) Good, bad, quirks, gripes, areas of interest, etc. every part was covered completely. Great review.
That culprit for the gritty trigger pull is likely the transfer bar and that sear mechanism that releases the striker.. Transfer bar looks like a stamped steel part that wasnt smoothed at all and the simple sear mechanism is obviously a MIM part that too wasnt smoothed out at all.
Here's a link to a fellow's vid that totally disassembled this pistol. A great assist in getting it done if you want to get to that part that causes the grittiness in the trigger pull. ( th-cam.com/video/O78kjWgaDUc/w-d-xo.html )
Ultimately it really is a bone simple tool, not that many parts at all and like the PPX an example of Walthers new approach to a more simplified process of manufacture for the entry level class of pistols. Conceived to be built to a balance of price point and quality. Keeping the tool a tool and not some high priced fancy safe queen or range toy.
Blowbacks get dirty, so much of the slide innards are quite open like the striker channel. Easiest way I've found to clean it is to use a product like 'gunscrubber', spray it out, it cleans everything in second, let it dry, lightly clp. Also keep in mind that it was designed to run dirty as its 'normal', much like the HK P7, the piston wasnt intended to have to be pristine and spotless to function. Piston and chamber are designed to run just fine when modestly fouled, so a sensible cleaning but no need to get all OCD with it.
Been carrying one for a few months and love it. Cook's and De Santis holsters work well. Great review, Sootch.
Good review Sootch . I love Walther pistols.. they’ve always been reliable and accurate in my experience. And the ergonomics are awesome!
I have carried the Shield, the Glock 43, but now they sit in the safe. My weapon for every day carry is my Walther CCP. I have a PPS m1 and m2. But the CCP is an awesome gun. A lot of people cry and complain about the take down. But if you'll spend 30 minutes taking it down numerous tomes it will become second nature. I hope Walther will come out with the CCP in 40 cal.
Thanks for another great video! I am sharing this video with a young mother who inquired about a home defense gun on a online forum. I will also share a couple of your other videos with her to help her out. Thanks!
Most ergonomic? I'd say Walther and CZ have the best feeling grips made. Great review Sootch! Just picked one up for my wife.
I have your WALTHER CCP Handgun and it's very awesome and good
Gun. Absolutely it's a
Five Star..
I love the music at the end of this review. Good episode too.
Another epic Video Sootch, Godspeed.
i had just looked at one in my local shop the other day and OMG it was one of the most comfortable handguns ive ever held and as a side note the one i looked at had a purple frame which my girlfriend loved and it did look pretty cool
I just held one today at the gun store and I was like, "Ohhhhh yesssss!" I just might buy it "for my wife." ;-)
+Toxick Magician Same here! It really stands out. My wife is going to look at it tomorrow.
I sure wonder if the R&D Team of Umarex/Walter took measures to stay clean of the heat buildup the HK P7 had with a similar delay system. Versus the P7 the Walter CCP got this gas trunnion housed in a polymer frame. So there is potential for the same issues that got the HK G36 in trouble - they re-housed an Stoner AR18 with its minor heat issues into a poly-frame and due to that the trunnion is swimming in its position once it reached the melting temperature of the polymer.
the frame, trigger guard and dimensions are that of the PK380.
Bought 2 of these in 2017 for about 220.00 each sportsman's guide great deal and great little firearms never a problem both are the stainless steel on black.
Very interesting system. It is like a gas operated firearm, only backwards. Very interesting indeed.
Not including the recoil reduction piston, the design is close to the Raven Arms, haha. I am sure the quality is far better.
I have two favorite concealed carry pistols, CZ P-10 M and my Walther CCP! 👍🏽
I have this and it fires consistently and accurately. With live fire, the trigger is fantastic and very smooth. Dry fire is different. Two negatives, the reset is long and after about 50 rounds at the target range, the slide is too hot to touch. This is understandable because of the design. The rest of the pistol stays cool but just be aware of this part of its personality. Wonderful CCP!!!!
You have the best reviews on you tube...thanks
Hey Sootch , I experienced the same problem with the trigger pull. It does get easier , but I came across Lucas gun lube oii & what a big difference. Easier, smoother action. Thanks for the great video.
Great video, very informative. Thanks for posting!
I like the easier racking slide. After a hand injury, I have reduced grip strength when gripping a slide. Not enough to notice in everyday life, but the position I hold my hand in aggravates the injury. I've changed how I grip a slide to work around it with other guns, but it's a nice margin of safety. Practice those 1-handed racking and clearing drills, people. You never know when you may need them.
Wow Don this gun offers a really nice package for Concealed Carry. Thanks for the review. I usually don't hear too much about Walthers but I'm always considering one.
I think the safety may only be on there for import reasons. ATF has their scoring system for imports with barrel lengths, calibers, capacities, etc, and I'm pretty sure that's why it is on there. If they contracted S&W to manufacture them in the U.S. like they did with PPK's, they might be able to have a version without the manual saffety
After 1 year of daily carry I can say that I strongly prefer a thumb or "on the frame" safety. Just fits my usage better. For daily carry I will only ever consider those with thumb safeties.
Great thorough review. I'm going to test this out tomorrow.
The thing is with the Glock if you run out of ammo you can just wave it at the opposition to bore them to death. :) ;)
They really are ugly aren't they? Like a stack of lego bricks that can shoot bullets.
Red Rider7 Sam story with a dozen other modern firearms. Glocks are definitely nothing special anymore
Red Rider7 Imo.... I can't give you a dozen but this is off the top of my head; HK, Sig, FNH,S+W, Springfield, Walther, and CZ are as reliable as Glocks. HK had polymer before Glock. Also Glock didn't invent striker fired pistols. What Glock did was make the first reliable, polymer, striker fired handgun that was affordable . Glocks are GOOD guns at a GOOD price with tons of aftermarket parts but it's not 30 years ago. One can't say that they are great as the first thing that happens to a new Glock is the crappy sights get replaced, then one retextures the grip, then the trigger isn't that good so one drops in a new after market one, after that it's a new guide rod, and might as well get a Lone Wolf barrel. So did one really get that BEST handgun in the world out of the box that the glocktards think they are? Don't get me wrong I would tell anyone looking to buy their first handgun to seriously consider a g19 but just don't get tunnel vision with all the hype Glocks have.
Red Rider7 My Gen 2 had a handful of malfunctions with +P ammo.
Red Rider7 you said that Glock developed polymer pistols and everything else was an imitation, I just listed the big "innovations" that Glock didn't invent that makes it so good. So really Glock is the copycat. What did Glock innovate then? I have 2 in mind so let's see what you can come up with. Secondly as far as asking what MODEL all the companies I listed that are as DEPENDABLE as a Glock take your pick, some more than others, but hell how about any revolver made by Smith and Wesson or Colt, the classic line of Sig's (p220, 226, 229, ect), and any HK, the entire FNX/FNS line from FNH( remember we are talking reliability not capacity or weight or ect). You are the one making grandiose claims so I think the burden of proof is on you. 30 years ago I wouldn't have argued with you as Glock did set a standard but due to Glocks lack of bringing ANYTHING new to the table in the last 30 years they no longer are the only game in town.
Notice how nowhere did I say Glocks suck! They are what they are and that's a GOOD gun at a GOOD price nothing more nothing less. One can MAKE a Glock into a great pistol with upgrades but you ruin the price point which is half of what makes them good.
ONLY a glocktard gets butt hurt when someone says that there gun of choice is a good one and would be recommended to a new shooter buying a first firearm! Fanboys of every other manufacturer seem to at least acknowledge criticism of there favorite brand.
PS when someone "limp wrists" a Glock IT IS A MALFUNCTION as the gun DID NOT cycle properly in a real world situation(injury, strength, or just plain tired). I can hold my FNH/FNS as loosely as I would if it was made of Jell-O and I CAN'T cause it to not cycle properly! :p
Take down and gas piston port are major turn offs but that trigger is a deal breaker. It reminds me of the Taurus Milenia That was creepy and crunchy . Overall a great review, Thanks for including your daughter, always enjoy such a pretty smile.
It's huge for a single stack 9mm. Just checked one out at the shop and it was a no-go for me.
Thank you for the review, I'm considering the CCP, the PPS, the PPS M2 and the Springfield Armory XDS and XD mod 2
I have been experimenting with both my own CCP and my son's and have discovered something potentially alarming. In fact it's what the Chinese engineer talked about & that I referenced in a post below several weeks ago. His explanation makes it seem as though an uncocked striker with a live round in the chamber is possible but highly unusual, but my experience says that the occurrence is far more likely than that.
Using snap-caps, I load the magazine. Then I introduce the mag into the pistol, striker uncocked. I rack the slide till I can engage the slide stop and let the stop hold it for a second. I then lower the slide stop with my thumb and the slide goes into battery as it chambers a round. Unfortunately, about 1/2 the times with my pistol the slide returns to battery WITH THE STRIKER UNCOCKED, i.e. with the firing pin exposed and thus hitting the primer on a live round. (My son's pistol is newer and unfired as yet, and while it isn't as easy to do with it what I describe here, it's NOT impossible since I've done it twice, both times with snap-caps. I suspect that as the pistols are broken in, the possibility of this happening actually increases.)
I know in the latest issues of the pistol that Walther includes a warning to retract the slide fully, thus indicating the company is aware of this danger. But this ignores the fact that, when retracting the slide manually with an empty magazine inserted, the slide stop always pops up and holds the slide. If, unawares, the user drops an empty mag and inserts another loaded one, then depresses the slide hold with his thumb, the chance for an accidental discharge is there. My suggestion would be the inclusion of a warning that users should always retract the slide manually fully after inserting a fresh magazine to return it to battery, and never depend on simply thumb lowering the slide stop.
Nice review. thanks for doing so much with just one hand... That is the way most gun fights occur ,even police shootings. PLS include some rapid-fire sequences next time, at shorter distances since this also is common to most gun fights. keep the honest reviews coming.
That Trigger is just as gritty and the M&Ps. I DO like the safety myself and do not see any problem with having it.
archersfriend My first handgun was a Colt 1911-A1, so a pistol having a safety is not a problem as far as I am concerned. I have never had a problem with tucking a cocked and locked .45 into my waistband, (and by that, I mean without a holster) but I will not do that with any of my Glocks...no way. And it never bothered me doing the same with a Browning Hi-Power...even though it does not have the grip safety that the 1911 has. But with a Glock, I need a holster to be able to do the same.
I really do not need anyone telling me what to buy but thanks for the video as I like to see what others say about a product. I bought the CCP and fell in love with it. It fit's the hand a lot better then the S&W Shield which I didn't like at all. Due to a disabillty I needed a lighter gun then my regular carry gun which is a sig P320C in 357 sig. The people that complain about the trigger on the CCP I can only say you can get use to it. I found no problem with the trigger after a few rounds. The only thing I do not like is the take down for cleaning, but while it is harder then most it is easier then my Glock 27. I hate the having to hold down the 2 serrated piece's at the front while removing the slide. I carry my CCP loaded with Winchester silver tip's and feel almost as safe as I did with my Sig P320C in 357 sig. Go to the store and check this great little gun out for your self.
Awesome vid. Only drawback I have is the fact that some people who like a built in safety you mentioned were "novice". I happen to like a built in safety if there are no, for example, a trigger or back strap safety.
Thanks for the informative review. So far, I have not seen any offerings from any manufacturer that would cause me to give up my Shield. Best carry gun I have ever had. Tough, reliable, accurate, and very comfortable to carry IWB.
Fatty McButterpants The Shield is my wife's Carry pistol. Excellent handgun. Thanks
*Now thats a winner!!! Man, I would love to get my hands on one.*
Nice review, Sootch. I wonder if this is going to be the new gun for James Bond. I'll be looking for it when Spectre is out end of the year.
ive had one of these, very nice compact comfortable guns, i found it in excellent shape with original case and mags etc for $300 otd at a pawn shop. youd be surprised at what you can find at a decent pawn shop an they are more willing to work with you to move stuff that they got by loaning someone else money that they need to recoup.,ive boughten aN HK p30 v3 with night sights, case and 3 mags for $465 OTD. only because it sat there for a year as no one liked 40s. but new that gun runs close to $1,000, i wish i never sold it but got an $800 offer on it i couldnt turn away.
I just purchased one and I love it. Very similar to the P22.
Your daughter is gorgeous. She reminds me a lot of an old high-school friend of mine.
My dad picked up the CCP for his... well... CCP haha. It has its issues, but overall we both like it. I love how it feels like a mini PPQ (this novice's competition gun of choice) and is just as accurate. The PPS is also an excellent choice but I hate the PPS's ergonomics (other than the awesome trigger-guard mag release, which I'm one of the 3 people who like it apparently).
I love the paddle slide releases
Been looking for a first gen ppq at local shows for awhile now
Recently picked one up and it handles well and is fun to shoot. Walther quality throughout. It has a better in hand feel than my Glock 27 and is much sexier...
Have you done a review on the Walther Creed?
I am really impressed with mine, concidering being a $350 gun.
I'm really fond of Walther's anyway. I have several, and did have a CCP. Didn't like the take down process.
But still, I still have a PPQ 45, Creed 9mm, PK380, and a P22, love them all.
Another great review, Sootch, Thank you. Please do let us know if you have any success with smoothing up the trigger. I'm betting that you will be able to smooth it out a bunch.
Bought P22, to take to the range with my CZ p01, after I saw your review, and less expensive .22 ammo, fell in love with feel of the Walther, and wanted a PPS, in 9mm, turns out the P22 is the only Walther for sale in California, starting to really piss me off
you should more from cali
move not more
Just found your channel. Your videos are professional and informative. Working on getting a concealed carry. I thought I wanted a S/W Shield now I am very interested in the Walther CCP due to reduced recoil. I hope the shooting range I want to go to have both pistols to try out. I have learned a lot from watching you. I also enjoy your videos on EDC. I hope to get my EDC stocked and ready. I am a novice and excited about learning to shoot.
Love those 10mm Black Talons in the picture!!
Have you ever compared the Chronographed bullets to other guns of the same barrel length. My dad was a cop back in the 90's and carried one of the HKP7M13 which is similar to the CCP. In all of the shootings he heard of the bullet wasn't doing any damage and bad guys were getting hit multiple times and continued to fight. My theory was that the gas hole bled gas off and reduced the pressure used to propel the bullet meaning lower velocity. They used Gold Dot 147 which are slow and the gas leak slowed it down even more, this reduced expansion of the hollow points had little effect on armed suspects. One guy was hit with all 13 rounds and even ran away from the pursuing cops nearly a mile. he was found and survived and went to trial.
+zedirich7 Interesting question, I'd also like to see a measured comparison between similar length barrels. Regarding the issue of bad guys not going down, I think it's important to remember that advances in ammunition capability probably make that less of an issue today, even if there is a slight velocity bleed-off with the gas system.
conghelach Sure its exaggerated, but back in the 90's people would say the 9mm will tickle a man to death. I mean that if you are attacked by an armed man and you hit him 6 times and he doesn't stop you'd crap your pants. Stories like this one spread and was one reason for switching to 40S&W (yes there is more to the story). With modern 9mm things like this are less likely and drugs may have played a role, I mean drunk drivers are more likely to survive even the worse car accidents.
Great review as always. I still think for a single stack she is quite beefy. A buddy of mine just got the springfield 9 mm single stack and I found it to be quite impressive. Didn't hurt that he got 5 mags for it either from the summer deals they run.
Good review, I think I might like this more than the M & P Shield I carry now.
You are very detailed great info as always. Wish the take down was like the HK- P7.
Thanks for the video. I have liked Walther. And looking for a nice carry small gun...
You never seem to miss a shot in your openings! :)
***** Why would I want t show misses? Everyone likes to hear the steel ring.... plus I get a lot of practice.
Took my CCP to the range today and probably put around 120 rounds through it. Here's something some may not be aware of. If you shoot it with two hands for an extended period of time, the frame where your off-side thumb normally rests, gets rather hot. Never noticed this with any other pistol. It's caused by the gas system on this pistol.
+Trace Kimber Not as bad as on the P7 though, which seems to have inspired this design to some extent.
Walther did it again. A H&K P7 gas locking with a non weird trigger system.
Good video.
Did you ever try to polish the trigger?
bought this gun 1 year ago and had a great grip and shot great. One
year later the damn thing rattles like crazy because the gas piston is
loose. I called Walther and they say the piston rattle is normal. Then
I asked if the engineers built a gun that was designed to rattle.
Walther said that they had a room full of CCP's in for recalls (safety
not working properly) and they all rattled.
WTF
Buyers remorse to the MAX
I've had my eyes on this and the Glock 43... Love my PPQ, just a bit snappy because of that high bore axis. Need to try this gun out!
Hope you will put some serious rounds through it, I would like to know how it would run being a gas design system when it gets dirty
Great review! Obviously a nice pistol. But isn't "most ergonomic" kind of subjective? For me, the best feeling CCW pistol is the Kahr P or CW 9 (I just traded off a Shield to buy a CW9), with my Ruger LC9 a little behind. I think what I don't like is all the weird shaping manufacturers do to the grip of some pistols. It has to hit you just right. My Kahr, especially, seems to be just a reduction in size from the 1911 silhouette. And the way that 15 oz. pistol handles recoil is just amazing.
Keep in mind these are made by Umarex (yes the airsoft people) not Walther. Yes, price is lower than a PPS, but so is quality. Look for the antler proof mark, not the crown, to be sure you are getting a true Walther.
Walther 9mm CCP weighs 22.3oz. It is a fine polymer pistol.
An all metal, Kimber Ultra Carry II in .45ACP is 25oz.
Quite a step up for and additional 2.7oz
For the price of the Kimber, you can buy two Walthers, or one with over 3000 rounds.
Oh, I forgot to mention that if you email Walther with your serial number, they will send an improved take down tool with a metal tip. I got mine within two weeks at no charge. Another reason to like this pistol.
Wonder why such a disparity between the triggers of the CCP and the PPQ M2?