I do think bad dialogue can ruin an otherwise good story. I usually plan out my story first, and then try to tune the dialogue to fit what needs to be established, but again that can be very hard to do. Having a character say "I love you" or "I hate you" is boring, having them say almost anything other than that but with the clear implication that they love/hate the person takes skill.
0:34 -- In well-structured scenes, the dialogue will write itself. Got it. But what about the reverse, where dialogue is already writing itself, and by doing so, reveals the characters and/or plot in layers? I'm that guy, and I'm not the only one. A pendulum always swings both ways. Nevertheless, great video! I thank you both. No joke.
Based on his other videos I think he’d tell you to write the dialogue scenes you feel inform you in the characters first and worry about connecting it with a plot later.
You can run into trouble where the characters are engaging in banter or redundancies. Sounds good to us as the writer but ends up on the cutting floor.
True. And Tarantino uses all elements to craft his films. He's genuine in designing a detailed misenscene, includes caring about the color, sound/music, texture and vibe of the scene, costumes, acting as well as dialogue. Movies with only dialogue-oriented style are kinda boring...
The dialogue SCENE is much more important in these director's movie. They can talk about English football team in the start of the Pulp Fiction and still makes it iconic.
Thanks for featuring him this past month. First TH-cam screenwriting advice I’ve benefited from over many years. I recommend any writers, not necessarily starting out, but struggling with editing/rewrites to listen to his YT channel.
To the plot- not necessarily the character’s emotional journey. Pay attention to what the “audience” needs to learn vs what the characters already know.
Every story makes demands of its author and it's audience. One requires an elevation of the immediately receivable elements; while the other underplays some things that the intention might be more readily perceived. All writers are slaves to their own stories and the story itself dictates how it will be represented.
I just love these sweeping pronouncements about screenwriting. I wonder why cinematographers don't voice such sweeping edicts about their craft or art directors or actors? Why is it always the writers who get fed all this endless dogma? Dogma is the antithesis of all art. I just hope that all upcoming real creatives are immune to internet quackery. Film Courage promotes this stuff to screenwriters like it's mother's milk.
Exactly! And then you get all the intellectual wannabie writers falling over themselves to agree with it in these comments, just so they can be 'seen' to be quality writers themselves. Problem is, no peer, publisher, or agent cares about youtube comments, so youre only deluding yourself.
Dialogue is very important, but it can't stand on its own without structure. Ocean's 11 had fantastic dialogue. As for the technical stuff not being retained, this guy clearly doesn't hang around sci-fi/fantasy nerds. They take that stuff super serious.
What I'm trying to do with my dialogue (for my first story I'm putting into a script format), is character development. I want people to have an emotional attachment to them. The story is a gritty drama with a supernatural element, but I want the characters to shine over that supernatural element. So with my intentions in mind, the dialogue would need to be an important factor. Right?
Dialogue is function of character (s) & moves the story forward. If it doesn't function or moves story forward, delete it. Whatever remains, is emotional goldmine & it's not the least in 'grand function of things' but the most important & prominent part. What differentiates is the principle of quality which I've already mentioned at beginning of paragraph. All the best
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I do think bad dialogue can ruin an otherwise good story. I usually plan out my story first, and then try to tune the dialogue to fit what needs to be established, but again that can be very hard to do. Having a character say "I love you" or "I hate you" is boring, having them say almost anything other than that but with the clear implication that they love/hate the person takes skill.
0:34 -- In well-structured scenes, the dialogue will write itself. Got it. But what about the reverse, where dialogue is already writing itself, and by doing so, reveals the characters and/or plot in layers? I'm that guy, and I'm not the only one. A pendulum always swings both ways. Nevertheless, great video! I thank you both. No joke.
Based on his other videos I think he’d tell you to write the dialogue scenes you feel inform you in the characters first and worry about connecting it with a plot later.
@@WeirdAlShankaBitch Hey thanks!
You can run into trouble where the characters are engaging in banter or redundancies. Sounds good to us as the writer but ends up on the cutting floor.
Rusty Ryan. (Not sure his last name is ever spoken in the dialog...)
Tarantino, Scorcese, Frances Ford, and Spike Lee were known for dialogue
Clowns apparently to this guy. 🤡
Yup. Yet Denis Villeneuve and Hitchcock downplayed the importance of dialogue.
True. And Tarantino uses all elements to craft his films. He's genuine in designing a detailed misenscene, includes caring about the color, sound/music, texture and vibe of the scene, costumes, acting as well as dialogue. Movies with only dialogue-oriented style are kinda boring...
The dialogue SCENE is much more important in these director's movie. They can talk about English football team in the start of the Pulp Fiction and still makes it iconic.
Throw Guy Ritchie there too.
Dialogue is one of my weaknesses as a filmmaker. One that I hope to remedy with my new upcoming project…
Its Mine too
How u practicing for it?
What's your reaction?
He's my favourite
Excellent
My reaction is important, but not the most important part of this video.
Jokes aside, I love the articulation and nuance he has with the material
Thanks for featuring him this past month. First TH-cam screenwriting advice I’ve benefited from over many years. I recommend any writers, not necessarily starting out, but struggling with editing/rewrites to listen to his YT channel.
Shit; my whole story is about a translator’s journey! Ok I’m out😂
This was awesome : spot on!
I'm currently writing a sci-fi and the technical verbose is critical.
To the plot- not necessarily the character’s emotional journey. Pay attention to what the “audience” needs to learn vs what the characters already know.
@@marks6695 Exactly, that's why it's critical to "my" script.
Every story makes demands of its author and it's audience. One requires an elevation of the immediately receivable elements; while the other underplays some things that the intention might be more readily perceived. All writers are slaves to their own stories and the story itself dictates how it will be represented.
informative interview
I just love these sweeping pronouncements about screenwriting. I wonder why cinematographers don't voice such sweeping edicts about their craft or art directors or actors? Why is it always the writers who get fed all this endless dogma? Dogma is the antithesis of all art. I just hope that all upcoming real creatives are immune to internet quackery. Film Courage promotes this stuff to screenwriters like it's mother's milk.
Exactly! And then you get all the intellectual wannabie writers falling over themselves to agree with it in these comments, just so they can be 'seen' to be quality writers themselves. Problem is, no peer, publisher, or agent cares about youtube comments, so youre only deluding yourself.
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Dialogue is very important, but it can't stand on its own without structure. Ocean's 11 had fantastic dialogue. As for the technical stuff not being retained, this guy clearly doesn't hang around sci-fi/fantasy nerds. They take that stuff super serious.
What I'm trying to do with my dialogue (for my first story I'm putting into a script format), is character development.
I want people to have an emotional attachment to them.
The story is a gritty drama with a supernatural element, but I want the characters to shine over that supernatural element.
So with my intentions in mind, the dialogue would need to be an important factor. Right?
Character is action.
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Dialogue is function of character (s) & moves the story forward. If it doesn't function or moves story forward, delete it. Whatever remains, is emotional goldmine & it's not the least in 'grand function of things' but the most important & prominent part. What differentiates is the principle of quality which I've already mentioned at beginning of paragraph. All the best
Subtext . Exposition .
Fulano Got These Gringos = #UnhealthySpeakingCommunication
says the guy that's known for Fancy Nancy, saved by the bell: the college years, and paw patrol. who cares what he says?
Says the guy that's known for absolutely nothing but this one TH-cam comment. Why should I care what you just said here? See how flawed this logic is?
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@ptolemyhenson6838 says the guy who says the guy who says the guy who is the guy who says what the guy says, said the guy
I agree, but I would be more polite about it. 😂
This guy is wrong!