Gareth Devies, who is a fan of Fury, and despite of that Usyk won on his cards 115:114: "What happened with the judges? It is a shame that it wasn't a split draw or a split decision to Tyson Fury!" 🤪
Can people just see the official punch stats for the fight and then there is no need for debate. Usyk out landed fury in almost all the rounds and also especially in power punches down the back 5. And ladies and gentlemen that's how boxing is scored. Try to win each round by landing more punches than your opponent. This was an easier fight for Usyk like the great man said.
a lot of commentators still give credit to fury by saying he was a great fighter, I never saw it. He beat a one punch wonder 3 times and his claim to fame was beating a robotic vlad. His defense is way too terrible to ever be called elite, he leaves himself wide open always has. I would argue it was his reach and height that got him success most of the time, helped his awful defense.
@@sambarker9762 How can a man work less, land less and still expect to take a title. The fact is he is also the much bigger man with massive physical advantages. Imagine how he would have been dispatched if he was the same size as Uysk!
Usyk is a generational talent...from all the HW ive ever seen as a 40yr old can only see Lennox beating him...how Gareth can put Tyson above Evander is beyond me he beat him twice Mike Tyson thought mainly cans
For me, the best analysis for the Usyk v Fury fights comes from Teddy Atlas: a bona fide boxing pundit. He has a vast wealth of experience as a fighter, trainer and pundit. He has no bias.
He's definitely biased in some cases. He always used to slag off Tyson since they fell out in the 80s. It was only a couple of years ago afte Teddy was on the Joe Rogan podcast saying Tyson was 5 and O, never won a real fight. Not long after that Tyson saw Teddy at an event and decided to make peace with him. Since then he's changes his tune on how good Tyson was and goes as far to say he believes prime Tyson could beat anyone before or since. The thing with Tyson I believe is he's one of the biggest underachievers of all time. Yet he still achieved greatness and legendary status. With his talent and and abilities he could of done so much more if he wasn't living such a crazy life. He's also clearly not impressed with AJ. There's others you'll notice when you agree or disagree with his take. .
tyson lost the fight for many reasons, he does not train like he said he does that's why the love handles are always present he has always relied on his size for his major advantage and perhaps the judges marked him down for his ilegal punching and his one punch grab and hold technique
I still can't believe he sang the line "just thank god it's them instead of youuuu!" when all the other popstars on the recording were avoiding it. Powerful. Brave.
Its nonsense all of it 1 round was fury. The boxer who lands the most punches in the round wins . Thats boxing . Not how hard your hit !!!! 1 roumd tyson landed more thats a fact i dont understand ???
Why give to an undeserving, just because you want a 3rd fight!? Let's honestly agree that Usyk won fairly. No need to ride with British media just for being British.
Three judges had the same score. The AI judge had Fury losing worse than the three judges. Good win for Usyk. I hope Usyk retires and concentrates on leading his country to victory!!!
I followed the talkSPORT boxing watchalong, which Gareth Davies co-hosted. He looked disapppointed during the fight. A deserved disapppointment because Tyson Fury was outboxed.
I know current commentators like to say either of these guys are among the greatest of all time, but I don't buy it. Tyson is fat and awkward and Usyk does not seem anything special.
proving this guy understands nothing about boxing, how has he achieved such tuber status without seeing the demolish job Usyk did on Fury, he needs to sit down with a boxer and be taken through each round, Fury was not in Usyk class he only made it difficult because he is tall and cheats
I have Evander Holyfield at 7th. And Usyk at 8 now. I think the biggest criteria for the greatest ever rankings must be-Quality of opposition faced and beat 👍 heart shown in their biggest fights, and did they overcome when really up against it 👍 that's why I could never put Mike Tyson above Evander Holyfield. No way. 👍
Fury has done this to himself and has so many haters with the way he has acted over the past 18 months.. he was once loved by the public.. also the AJ fan boys jumping on the band wagon.. all the haters are slating him any chance they get, and that's why people are saying usyk dominated etc but in reality fury gave usyk his hardest challenge, usyk is a phenomenal boxer and an all time great amd fury took him close both times.. if fury was still loved by the fans like he was 2 years ago, then he would be getting all the credit in the world for the heart he showed and his boxing skills. This is a comment for the haters to hate on.
Who will old GAD attach himself to now? Now his cash cow has lost? I think he may latch onto jack paul, what a sad sap of a bloke he is. Sold his soul the poor sad bloke.
Usyk has now been in the ring with any greats, as we are in an era of weak cruiser and heavy weights how can you rate him he is the best of a bad bunch at most, there has not been a decent heavy weight since Lewis, a lot of his wins have been against useless brits.
Gareth Davies upfront boxing just like to say as much of long journalist and as much as you’ve been reporting boxing upfront boxing doesn’t really negate to your views and I think your views are very self honoured views and whoever is chucks out the crumpet and the crumbs to you you negate The best avenue for them and hearing this interview of you saying that you would rather fight fury for a third trilogy after that performance of fury I don’t think the gates viability or any demand for it so I’m glad you’re not a promoter but however let’s spindle the promoting hat as you say the interview What about fury vs Daniel soon as Daniel got the job done against aj How about White vs Moses? That on the gate where white and Moses is. I think Johnny Fisher should fight Miller to see where levels and future prospects are Deontay Wilder if come back should fight j Joe Joyce Zane fight the white rhino Fraser Clark vs Martin b Fabio Wardley John Fisher If Vladimir Klitschko is making a comeback Fight Derek Chisora There’s lots of other interest in fights that can be made Think out the box Gareth and stop licking them breadcrumbs up with respect
Got to be honest Gareth a Davis was bang right on this one as all the Country knows that Dave Alan Won that & BOSH was out of order Merry Christmas & Happy New Year to all From the Steel City of SHEFFIELD Hillsborough 💙🥊💙🥊👍👊
So Gareth is saying they both need fights in between so fury maybe fight usyk again Joshua rematches Daniel . I really couldn’t care if we see fury and aj rather them both retire and go and enjoy time with the families now .
After that brutal knockout Joshua should recover at least half of the year. Then a fight with somebody of Chisora's level. And only after that a fight with Fury.
First 2 were super close then 3,4 were to Usyk. After that Tyson had a good moment in round 5 maybe 6 as well. After that, it was more or less Usyk. How can you say it is unfortunate it was not a split decision to Tyson. Usyk clearly won the first fight. In the second fight Fury was the challenger and it is his responsibility to bring the fight to Usyk. Yet Usyk was the one pushing the pace and winning the rounds. After round 6 Fury could not keep up. Same story as in the first fight, it only happened earlier.
7-5 in favour of Usyk for me, Usyk is a master at landing mediocre punches to catch the eyes of the judges, he also understands the last 30 seconds of each round impresses also. It was a tale of two lifestyles/diets, Fury having bipolar means he can never equal Usyk in fitness and stamina, too many drink, drugs, and food binges. I don't think Usyk could beat an equally mentally dedicated Fury. Usyk is a consummate professional, a genuinely humble man, and a positive male role model.
The Fury's must no longer be paying the Gareth Davies rates anymore , must be no free passes or back stage accesses for him obviously by this Fury's a soar loser remark.....salty Gareth got no free gifts
Take your own advice 🤡 GAD is a Fury rimmer (evidently not quite as devout as you) if he had Fury losing then Fury lost. Judges got it spot on unlike the Allen fight which was indeed a robbery.
That fight was fixed no way usyk won that fight. The commentary on the fight was absolutely shocking yous should be ashamed. People that know boxing know who won the fight. I understand John fury behaviour was shocking before the 1st fight but having said that it shouldn't have affected the outcome of the fight. You guy's were bought off with the money from Saudi Arabia
GAD no you couldn't just give it 7 to 5 Fury, not without being biased and blind. It is really required now to get more AI involved in boxing as this kind of shit ruins it. Objectively Usyk won. That's it GAD, the AI system was emphatic and I notice you avoid talking about that as you aim to keep youself sweet with the Warren/Fury clan gansta powers in the sport. Just stop it now as no one has any respect for you.
Yes we all know Tyson’s behaviour hasn’t been the best in both fights, but come on, Tyson won that fight. When I watched it live I had Fury winning by at least two rounds. I’ve just watched the replay again and I scored it 115-114 to Fury. At best I could see a draw but no way Usyk won that fight. But lm a believer that when your fighting a champion, you have to take the title, win it clearly so there’s no doubt. It was a close call and maybe for that reason you could give it to Usyk, but for me Tyson out pointed him behind a constant jab and improved defence. Tysons stock has risen for me after that great performance. He still needs to work on his shananagans outside of the ring but like they say, you can take the man out of the trailer park but you can’t take the trailer park out of the man. That aside, great performance from both guys.
@donb6778 he's got six fkn fights at HW I ain't putting him ahead of any of those guys with with 6 fights . Witherspoon don't count that was a joke.. I put him top ten in a division I can count his fights on my fingers and ppl still complain..
@donb6778 he's higher on the all-time boxer list than he is the HW all time list as far as I'm concerned.. if we're talking just strictly boxing skills I have loma in front of him.. usyk is absolutely brilliant he's the number 1 cruiserweight all time. But he was a pretty big cruiser weight. And breidis gave him all he wanted which isn't a sleight breidis can make HOF. But Loma made the absolute best in multiple divisions look like they were playing a diff game
lol.. his resume is garbage.... not an elite win in his career.... only class fighter he fought he got done twice!!!! Nganou beat him too tbh.. clown show
Mike Tyson doesn’t deserve to be on the list! Name the big adversity fight he had and name the fighter. Each and every time he had a little bit of pressure on him he burst like a pipe! Holyfield, Lewis, Douglas! He’s a bum who knocked out a pile of door men.
Dubois is defo overlooking Parker.. which is a mistake
I hope Parker does him in. Success has gotten to his head too fast.
He’s way ahead of himself after that AJ win
Parker is over rated
@@Dylan-y6n his redemption arc is admirable
Gareth Devies, who is a fan of Fury, and despite of that Usyk won on his cards 115:114: "What happened with the judges? It is a shame that it wasn't a split draw or a split decision to Tyson Fury!" 🤪
Can people just see the official punch stats for the fight and then there is no need for debate. Usyk out landed fury in almost all the rounds and also especially in power punches down the back 5. And ladies and gentlemen that's how boxing is scored. Try to win each round by landing more punches than your opponent. This was an easier fight for Usyk like the great man said.
100% correct
Totally agree, but this is how these guys make a living
When have people ever relied on punch stats so much.. it's about how effective the punches are as well.
@@chrisnewell1065 Yes and Usyk also landed more effective punches
@@sullyx5142 fury landed the more effective punches in some of the rounds and won 5 of them.
How can you have Mike Tyson at number 6 and Holyfield at 8 when the latter beat Tyson, not once but twice ?
Welcome to the fake world of boxing, seems the Saudis are turning it more fake with ai judges,
Exactly, the myth of Tyson never ceases to amaze me.
maybe cause he was a human pharmacy?
@@robinhardaker6450 AI judge was correct....it was wide.
Because he's an idiot.
If GAD scored it one round to Usyk then you know Usyk won by at least four or five rounds.
lol 😂 Gareth jumping out of HMS Fury as it sinks to the bottom
True. Tyson is a ridiculous boxer with no fitting body shape for sport and he is also a poor loser. That is the main dissapointment.
a lot of commentators still give credit to fury by saying he was a great fighter, I never saw it. He beat a one punch wonder 3 times and his claim to fame was beating a robotic vlad. His defense is way too terrible to ever be called elite, he leaves himself wide open always has. I would argue it was his reach and height that got him success most of the time, helped his awful defense.
We have some seriously deluded biased British commentators
I'm British and got the same score as the judges, anyone that gives it to Fury is just plain delusional
@@sambarker9762 How can a man work less, land less and still expect to take a title. The fact is he is also the much bigger man with massive physical advantages. Imagine how he would have been dispatched if he was the same size as Uysk!
Intimidated by the Fury clan who are backed by Frank Warren
Usyk is a generational talent...from all the HW ive ever seen as a 40yr old can only see Lennox beating him...how Gareth can put Tyson above Evander is beyond me he beat him twice Mike Tyson thought mainly cans
For me, the best analysis for the Usyk v Fury fights comes from Teddy Atlas: a bona fide boxing pundit. He has a vast wealth of experience as a fighter, trainer and pundit. He has no bias.
He was very biased when his own fighter gvodzyk got KOD by beterbiev 😂
He's definitely biased in some cases. He always used to slag off Tyson since they fell out in the 80s. It was only a couple of years ago afte Teddy was on the Joe Rogan podcast saying Tyson was 5 and O, never won a real fight. Not long after that Tyson saw Teddy at an event and decided to make peace with him. Since then he's changes his tune on how good Tyson was and goes as far to say he believes prime Tyson could beat anyone before or since. The thing with Tyson I believe is he's one of the biggest underachievers of all time. Yet he still achieved greatness and legendary status. With his talent and and abilities he could of done so much more if he wasn't living such a crazy life.
He's also clearly not impressed with AJ. There's others you'll notice when you agree or disagree with his take. .
I’ve been following this sport for many years and I’ve never come across more of a gob shite that Gareth Davies 🤦♂️
Gareth is such a clown...
tyson lost the fight for many reasons, he does not train like he said he does that's why the love handles are always present he has always relied on his size for his major advantage and perhaps the judges marked him down for his ilegal punching and his one punch grab and hold technique
I still can't believe he sang the line "just thank god it's them instead of youuuu!" when all the other popstars on the recording were avoiding it. Powerful. Brave.
Its nonsense all of it 1 round was fury.
The boxer who lands the most punches in the round wins . Thats boxing . Not how hard your hit !!!!
1 roumd tyson landed more thats a fact i dont understand ???
Why give to an undeserving, just because you want a 3rd fight!?
Let's honestly agree that Usyk won fairly.
No need to ride with British media just for being British.
Rewatch it with a sober head. 8-4 is a fair result, get over it
Only GAD would have a mirror to look at himself whilst he does the washing up 😂
It was a closer fight than the judges scored!! A draw for me !!
This is what happens when $$ and entertainment value--not what boxer is rightfully next to fight the winner-- take precedence over boxing tradition.
Fury has millions in the bank and the next decade every penny will feel worthless in his fragile mind.... Let others drive...
Three judges had the same score. The AI judge had Fury losing worse than the three judges. Good win for Usyk. I hope Usyk retires and concentrates on leading his country to victory!!!
Nicking a living… stop giving him airtime.
Bono wants his imagine back for Xmas Gareth.
I followed the talkSPORT boxing watchalong, which Gareth Davies co-hosted. He looked disapppointed during the fight. A deserved disapppointment because Tyson Fury was outboxed.
I know current commentators like to say either of these guys are among the greatest of all time, but I don't buy it. Tyson is fat and awkward and Usyk does not seem anything special.
Doesn't any sense making AJ fight another person. Fighting Dylan won't do anything for the Fury fight but if AJ loses, it will kill it even further
"a lot of swing rounds in there"...ya, you gave them all to Fury..lmao.
I guess we’re not going to hear, “no man born from his mother…” anymore.
Fury’s now saying Usyk wasn’t born from his mother
proving this guy understands nothing about boxing, how has he achieved such tuber status without seeing the demolish job Usyk did on Fury, he needs to sit down with a boxer and be taken through each round, Fury was not in Usyk class he only made it difficult because he is tall and cheats
Gareth Arse Davies has been down Showaddywaddys wardrobe and MrTs jewellery box. Still wearing the sad shades😂
Be quiet GAD always got a cop out about “swing rounds” the fight was judged perfectly, stop fence sitting just bcuz u wanna be team fury’s buddies
Agreed. I'm still baffled as to why this guy gets so much attention.
I thought there was money in boxing journalism
AJ vs Fury is the next logical fight, while Dubois should get to try a second time (and lose again)
I have Evander Holyfield at 7th.
And Usyk at 8 now. I think the biggest criteria for the greatest ever rankings must be-Quality of opposition faced and beat 👍 heart shown in their biggest fights, and did they overcome when really up against it 👍 that's why I could never put Mike Tyson above Evander Holyfield. No way. 👍
Outrageous Fury fanboy, Usky won the fight at a canter, Usky said this fight was easier than the first fight ,I believe him.
Ffs, his scoring is inept.
Does he sleep with sunglasses...🤣
Fury has done this to himself and has so many haters with the way he has acted over the past 18 months.. he was once loved by the public.. also the AJ fan boys jumping on the band wagon.. all the haters are slating him any chance they get, and that's why people are saying usyk dominated etc but in reality fury gave usyk his hardest challenge, usyk is a phenomenal boxer and an all time great amd fury took him close both times.. if fury was still loved by the fans like he was 2 years ago, then he would be getting all the credit in the world for the heart he showed and his boxing skills. This is a comment for the haters to hate on.
Three wins and you're All time best heavyweight??? 😂😂😂 Better than Ali, Lennox Lewis, Rocky Mashiano, Joe Louis, Jackson, Mike Tyson 🤔🤔🤔
this man got the Tony Iommi fit on.
How much longer does fury aj need building ten years 😂😂
Usyk out hit Fury 11 out of 12 rounds.
Who will old GAD attach himself to now? Now his cash cow has lost? I think he may latch onto jack paul, what a sad sap of a bloke he is. Sold his soul the poor sad bloke.
Usyk has now been in the ring with any greats, as we are in an era of weak cruiser and heavy weights how can you rate him he is the best of a bad bunch at most, there has not been a decent heavy weight since Lewis, a lot of his wins have been against useless brits.
Wears a crucifix but forgets its Christmas...
Artificial intelligence which is unbiased scored it 119 110 for Usyk
Being a bad loser. There's nothing wrong with that? Of course there is Gareth. Stop talking waffle and humble yourself big man
Hard to listen to this guy talk about Fury.
What ?!?! Fury 3-4 rounds not more. Please.
I like GAD he has humanity….
Gareth Davies upfront boxing just like to say as much of long journalist and as much as you’ve been reporting boxing upfront boxing doesn’t really negate to your views and I think your views are very self honoured views and whoever is chucks out the crumpet and the crumbs to you you negate The best avenue for them and hearing this interview of you saying that you would rather fight fury for a third trilogy after that performance of fury I don’t think the gates viability or any demand for it so I’m glad you’re not a promoter but however let’s spindle the promoting hat as you say the interview What about fury vs Daniel soon as Daniel got the job done against aj
How about White vs Moses? That on the gate where white and Moses is.
I think Johnny Fisher should fight Miller to see where levels and future prospects are
Deontay Wilder if come back should fight j Joe Joyce
Zane fight the white rhino
Fraser Clark vs Martin b
Fabio Wardley John Fisher
If Vladimir Klitschko is making a comeback
Fight Derek Chisora
There’s lots of other interest in fights that can be made Think out the box Gareth and stop licking them breadcrumbs up with respect
Got to be honest Gareth a Davis was bang right on this one as all the Country knows that Dave Alan Won that
& BOSH was out of order
Merry Christmas & Happy New Year to all
From the Steel City of SHEFFIELD
Hillsborough 💙🥊💙🥊👍👊
So Gareth is saying they both need fights in between so fury maybe fight usyk again Joshua rematches Daniel . I really couldn’t care if we see fury and aj rather them both retire and go and enjoy time with the families now .
Tyson fury, fighting men don't cry and moan ,they get on with it
I'd watch Usyk all year round, but I'd like to see new fighters coming through and ignite boxing again.
Why dos he always where sun glasses 🕶
fashion or eye problems, could be anything really. What does it matter even
Oleksandr The Great.
Who is this guy with glasses 🤓
A bad winner too
After that brutal knockout Joshua should recover at least half of the year. Then a fight with somebody of Chisora's level. And only after that a fight with Fury.
First 2 were super close then 3,4 were to Usyk. After that Tyson had a good moment in round 5 maybe 6 as well. After that, it was more or less Usyk.
How can you say it is unfortunate it was not a split decision to Tyson. Usyk clearly won the first fight. In the second fight Fury was the challenger and it is his responsibility to bring the fight to Usyk. Yet Usyk was the one pushing the pace and winning the rounds. After round 6 Fury could not keep up. Same story as in the first fight, it only happened earlier.
7-5 in favour of Usyk for me, Usyk is a master at landing mediocre punches to catch the eyes of the judges, he also understands the last 30 seconds of each round impresses also. It was a tale of two lifestyles/diets, Fury having bipolar means he can never equal Usyk in fitness and stamina, too many drink, drugs, and food binges. I don't think Usyk could beat an equally mentally dedicated Fury. Usyk is a consummate professional, a genuinely humble man, and a positive male role model.
The Fury's must no longer be paying the Gareth Davies rates anymore , must be no free passes or back stage accesses for him obviously by this Fury's a soar loser remark.....salty Gareth got no free gifts
Fair shout GAD! 👏✌️❤️
Oleksandr, Yes, Glad he beat the Opposition. Dislike Fury
Tyson won that fight, mistakes all night,Dave Allen ripped off as well , stop chatting your crap
Boo Hoo learn how to score boxing. Fury was out worked by a better boxer. Move on
Take your own advice 🤡
GAD is a Fury rimmer (evidently not quite as devout as you) if he had Fury losing then Fury lost. Judges got it spot on unlike the Allen fight which was indeed a robbery.
What 114 115 this granny is talking about?😂😂😂
That is a fairer score
That fight was fixed no way usyk won that fight.
The commentary on the fight was absolutely shocking yous should be ashamed.
People that know boxing know who won the fight.
I understand John fury behaviour was shocking before the 1st fight but having said that it shouldn't have affected the outcome of the fight.
You guy's were bought off with the money from Saudi Arabia
tyson furious won all 12 rounds
GAD no you couldn't just give it 7 to 5 Fury, not without being biased and blind. It is really required now to get more AI involved in boxing as this kind of shit ruins it. Objectively Usyk won. That's it GAD, the AI system was emphatic and I notice you avoid talking about that as you aim to keep youself sweet with the Warren/Fury clan gansta powers in the sport. Just stop it now as no one has any respect for you.
UNDER THE VOLCANO GARETH.......
An Irish legend is tyson 🍀
I agree with Lennox being no1, I'd put Usyk no5 over liston
Shows you no nothing about boxing pal
Wait...why he is 7? did he make 2 undisputed faster than other and without loses .unlike the others?
I know he's got to be in the top 4 at least and if he defeats Dubois again to become 2x undisputed then he has to be number 1 of all times surely?
@DJAA21M is this a question?)
@@intactoarthur6795 it is a question if he decides to become 2 times undisputed
Davies is always a bell - end ✊️✊️💦💦💦
Yes we all know Tyson’s behaviour hasn’t been the best in both fights, but come on, Tyson won that fight. When I watched it live I had Fury winning by at least two rounds. I’ve just watched the replay again and I scored it 115-114 to Fury. At best I could see a draw but no way Usyk won that fight. But lm a believer that when your fighting a champion, you have to take the title, win it clearly so there’s no doubt. It was a close call and maybe for that reason you could give it to Usyk, but for me Tyson out pointed him behind a constant jab and improved defence. Tysons stock has risen for me after that great performance. He still needs to work on his shananagans outside of the ring but like they say, you can take the man out of the trailer park but you can’t take the trailer park out of the man. That aside, great performance from both guys.
😂😂😂😂
This guy talks so much shit
Id put
Lennox 1
Ali 2
Louis 3
Foreman 4
Liston 5
Holmes 6
Tyson 7
Usyk 8
Holyfield 9
Marciano 10
Something like that
Haha Usyk better resume and better boxer then all of em 🐐
@donb6778 he's got six fkn fights at HW I ain't putting him ahead of any of those guys with with 6 fights . Witherspoon don't count that was a joke.. I put him top ten in a division I can count his fights on my fingers and ppl still complain..
@donb6778 he's higher on the all-time boxer list than he is the HW all time list as far as I'm concerned.. if we're talking just strictly boxing skills I have loma in front of him.. usyk is absolutely brilliant he's the number 1 cruiserweight all time. But he was a pretty big cruiser weight. And breidis gave him all he wanted which isn't a sleight breidis can make HOF. But Loma made the absolute best in multiple divisions look like they were playing a diff game
Fury was robbed.. Usyk did nothing the whole fight… Fury still the greatest no debate
Robbed twice? Come off it.
@@ItsJustRyan89a troll I think
Laughable 😂
lol.. his resume is garbage.... not an elite win in his career.... only class fighter he fought he got done twice!!!! Nganou beat him too tbh.. clown show
Fanboy alert.
Mike Tyson doesn’t deserve to be on the list! Name the big adversity fight he had and name the fighter. Each and every time he had a little bit of pressure on him he burst like a pipe! Holyfield, Lewis, Douglas! He’s a bum who knocked out a pile of door men.
Sickens me that Usyk is being undermined by these pric ks
GAD 🐍 Warren 🐍 Hearn 🐍 ruining boxing