For sure, the movies brought more attention to Sonic to the more casual audiences who weren't big on Video games and brought him to the mainstream level he was at in the early 90's, now you see sonic everywhere which I never really saw in the 2010's, it was usually mario stuff.
Actually, Frontiers impacted the series and saved it from the Fandom bashing the franchise again and again. A game based movie series didn't do much to help save the series from sucking again post 06. Frontiers saved the series from sucking and the toxic Fandom bashing the series post 06 while Colors and Generations r the only games to not get bashed by the toxic fans. I still honestly do not find Lost World and Forces to b horrible games. If u ask me, Boom: Rise of Lyric is the true worst Sonic game ever, worse than 06 and Shadow.
I wholeheartedly agree with this, especially if you look at Tails as well. I CANNOT wait to see this film, especially because as a kid, Shadow was one of my faves. It’s a bit cheesy but that story and character arc of SA2 was what made me want to create my own characters and write them arcs like Shadows. And I did, and currently have a graphic novel WIP full of those complex characters. I’m confident they’ll do him justice, and if the movie does well, which I’m pretty sure it will, I’d love to see another hedgehog who also inspired me to try new things with my characters and give them unique abilities get a refresh. I literally jumped when I saw the quick frame of Silver because he deserves so much more love then he gets. If anyone could change the perception of Silver, it’s the team behind the Sonic movies. Love your videos and content as always!
It is just terrific that both characters Shadow and Knuckles are getting that proper writing and care based on their characterisation I am definitely looking forward to both the new Sonic X Shadow Generations and the upcoming Sonic Movie 3 this year on December the 20th.
It was only the Boom Knuckles that is being portrayed as a complete fool. The Knuckles from the mainline games is still the tough guy character we already know. Movie Knuckles is already that Knuckles from the games (not just the old ones from the 90s).
The G.O.A.T. is back!!! Shadow fans rise up! We're definitely in for it this year, and I'm intrigued as to how everything goes this year for Sonic... or Shadow in this case. If the movies were able to redeem Sonic, Tails, and Knuckles, then I think they could definitely redeem Shadow if they know what they're doing. I'm quite confident in Paramount's ability to cook up another great movie. I hope stuff like Sonic X Shadow Generations is also good as well. Shadow really needs some kind of redemption. As a Shadow fan, I really want him to be written well again. Sonic Prime was a start, but we need to keep going.
I hope Shadow gets the makeover he deserves, he’s such an awesome character and I hope he can be the best character move forward ( not to say he isn’t but in last years he hasn’t been at his peak) but I hope the Sonic movie can make that happen.
I just my cool, quiet hero back. So far my favorite depiction of Shadow in this current era is Murder of Sonic the Hedgehog. Him having a whole adventure under a time limit to get tickets for Amy's birthday gift about a band he knows she's interested in. It genuinely the coolest thing he's done in years. What makes Shadow cool is that he cares. As grumpy and angy as he looks, he values the people in his life.
LETS GOOO Shadow is finally getting his character fix because Shadows character during the meta era was… not good at all. I can’t wait to see how Shadow will be handle in Sonic Movie 3. Now please paramount take your time making Shadows character this year instead of rushing his character. Great video my dude)
I have literally lost passion for everything because of my studies, please wish my passion come back for Sonic's series, especially this year because Shadow is my favorite character 😭. But still I'm so excited for the movie!
Sonic movie 1 was one of the first good video game movies so not everyone went to see it. Sonic Movie 2 came just after the Corona crisis, so not everyone went to the theaters. So I think Sonic Movie 3 will do much better than the previous 2 movies
I freaking love this year (2024) so much! Shadow’s always been my favorite! While I love his Sonic Prime portrayal, the moment I had faith that Shadow’s character was finally being given true justice was in his scene in The Murder of Sonic the Hedgehog game. I mean, him deciding to buy concert tickets for Amy for a boy band and biting the bullet by going with her for her birthday is just so adorable and what I believe is closer to how Shadow originally was before the mandates. The guys has a soft spot behind his gruff exterior, especially for Amy since she helped him remember his actual promise to Maria. That’s more like the Shadow that I know was still there and has been in our hearts. 😊
It’s really happy to see Shadow supposedly be resorted to his good old characterization. Just like Knuckles has in recent years, he’s gradually going to become his good self again
I can't wait to see Sonic 3, and I'll have it be the first movie that I will have ever watched in a theater twice instead of once! I'm looking forward to playing Sonic X Shadow Generations too. I think that Sega may finally have understood how much of a wrong idea it was to make Shadow be acting like an edgeloard, and are listening to the multitude of fans who are absolutely fed-up with that unwanted personality change and very much want the version of Shadow who had better characterization in SA2, Heroes, and 06 to return. I also think that the Sonic 3 movie has a chance to possibly become the highest grossing 2024 new release movie. Mostly from how hyped lots of people are worldwide for it because it will include Shadow along with elements from his debut game being adapted into it, and that it will also have the most highly wanted song from the Sonic games playing in it (Live and learn) because it was confirmed that Paramount made a deal with Crush 40 to get the rights to SA2's banger theme song so that it can legally be added into that movie!
I’m hoping Shadow Rouge & Omega would be returning in the future Cause Shadow hasn’t seen them in a really long time since Team Sonic Racing but they change Shadow in Prime
I feel confident about the movie because of this quote Pat Casey gave on Shadow that makes me believe they do understand his character from the first game: "He's a match for Sonic, but with such a different personality. And unlike Knuckles, who's sort of just misled, Shadow is driven by anger and revenge. I almost feel like Sonic, when he encounters Shadow, he's like 'Well I'll just teach him about the power of friendship like with Knuckles' badda bing bada boom, but that's not going to work on Shadow, you know? Sonic's never had to deal with someone as emotionally damaged as Shadow." That last line in particular. They understand he was full of wrath in the first game, but also knew that his anger wasn't from proving he's better than Sonic or that he's a loner, but that he's had a rough past and is struggling to come to terms with it. Anyways, considering Knuckles' personality is mainly based on the Adventure games with a bit more naivete to match Sonic 3 & Knuckles, I have a lot of confidence.
Can Shadow please go back to how he was in SA2? I’m not all that fond of the grumpy edge-lord who acts like he’s above others and doesn’t need help in Heroes, his own game, and 06. Shadow used to show respect to others, especially Sonic in SA2 with this quote: “Hahaha, Sonic! I think I've discovered what the ultimate life form is... it might be you!” Also, when he switched to being good in that game, it really felt like he was being good and trying to make amends. The only reason why Shadow was “edgy” (more like sinister) is because he wanted to achieve what he thought were Maria’s wishes, which is revenge against the people of Earth. But for some reason, fans and writers decided to have edginess be a core part of Shadow’s character today. What Shadow needs right now is to “open [his] heart [because] it’s gonna be alright”. Also, if Kirk Thornton doesn’t do a good job voicing Shadow in Generations remastered, then he needs to be replaced. I miss how melancholic yet light-hearted Shadow’s voice was in SA2. David Humphrey gave such an emotionally deep voice for Shadow.
You want SA2 Shadow back just because he respected Sonic in that game? That's the only valuable Shadow's characterization to you? That he was doing curtsy to the main hero? And what about Sonic showing some respect for Shadow? Maybe he should do it too? Maybe it's Sonic who should finally learn to respect someone instead of being full of himself all the time? Cause in all latest games he was the one and only allmighty hero while everyone else was totally useless. I have a feeling that Sonic's fanboys prefer SA2 Shadow only because of that stupid phrase about Sonic being the real ultimate life form. And when Shadow shows some self respect and shows that he doesn't need Sonic to get the job done, you call him an edgelord. Forgetting that Shadow is actually as capable as Sonic and deserves some respect too.
@@ceylancobalt3117No, that’s not the reason why I solely want SA2 Shadow to return, and I’m not looking for Shadow to constantly praise Sonic but just show a good amount of respect to him and others. I just want his entire characterization from SA2 to come back, like being a symbol of lightheartedness and hope when he’s abiding by Maria’s true wishes. I don’t think of guns, vehicles, cursing, and working for GUN, which is the corrupt, government, military organization that killed Maria, to be traits that define lightheartedness and hope. Those aspects are just unnecessary and cringe-worthy additions to Shadow that make him a symbol of emo edginess instead. Shadow in SA2 is also like Sonic, if Sonic suffered through tragedy and was broken by it. Shadow showed signs of playfulness and arrogance, just like Sonic, which is how the rivalry between Sonic and Shadow was represented in SA2. What I really want is for Shadow to just lighten up. Hence why I said that he needs to “open [his] heart [because] it’s gonna be alright”.
@@supersaiyanfox9190He wasn't 'emo' dude 🙄And fyi, a lot of people LIKE the 'edgier' version of Shadow. As for Sonic...he can really be grating and obnoxious at times. But people don't seem to be character assassinating him as much for how annoying he can be, many people would rather pick on Shadow (like you). Leave Shadow alone, he's been through enough story-wise
@@BasedVegeta You’re acting kind of emo yourself, dude. I’m just saying that I want Shadow to be Shadow again. Not Shadow the Edge-lord but Shadow the Hedgehog. I personally think that everything about Shadow and his characterization in SA2 is not just omitted from the Meta era, but it’s also completely omitted from Heroes, his own game, 06, and even Prime. I would at least like SA2 Shadow’s characterization to fuse with Shadow the Edge-lord, instead of it to be completely removed. I honestly think that Shadow the Edge-lord fans defend the character because of nostalgia and the serious, dark elements. The execution of these dark stories for Shadow is just too much though, to the point that he’s never been the same character after SA2. That’s my major problem with Shadow the Edge-lord. He’s not the same character as SA2 Shadow; the real Shadow; “a brave and heroic hedgehog, who gave his life to save this planet: Shadow the Hedgehog.”
@@supersaiyanfox9190 seems like you want Shadow to serve as a function to Sonic. You want him just to be another Sonic's copy, not himself. You practically didn't say anything about Shadow himself, you're constantly referring to Sonic while talking about Shadow. You didn't say anything about Sonic needing to learn to respect other characters including Shadow. Shadow is his own separate character. He has his own personality, his own story, that has nothing to do with Sonic. He shouldn't depend on Sonic. He shouldn't make his choices based on Sonic's opinion. He can use weapons and vehicles if he wants to, that fits his pragmatic nature. As for cursing, say thanks to english version, there is no cursing in japanese. Maria was killed 50 years ago, the current GUN isn't responsible for this tragedy. Shadow understands that and he had left his past behind. He can do whatever he wants now. He is neither another Sonic, nor Sonic's copy. I myself don't like Shadow The Edgelord but I don't like Shadow The Sonic's Cheerleader either. Shadow in Heroes, 06, Battle, Prime was good. Shadow in japanese ShTH version was pretty decent, especially compared to Boom! or IDW! Shadow.
I can agree with most points you have provided, when the movie released and did well i realize how they taken some stuff from it as time goes on because they find out the people really like some of them so they simply added it in the games to help it's performances. All i can say i I'm excited for the movie and I'm hopeful that it will do well and possibly fix or make a better characterization of shadow but i would also be prepared if it doesn't so far only time can tell but always stay positive 👍🏾
Yea yea yea that's great about the movie appearance of Shadow, but if we're talking about the third movie of Sonic, we don't just talk about Shadow, we should also b talking about how it was confirmed by variety (despite not doing any interviews or any news if he was gonna do it or not) that Jim Carrey will reprise his role as Eggman and it proves we haven't seen the last of him and this will b SA2 the movie where Eggman will free Shadow from his capsule like he did in the game. No Agent Stone replacing him this time like Snively from SATAM replacing his uncle Robotnik so that "pre-quill" comic proved wrong and it only runs on canon and it wasn't. Eggman is indeed alive and will return for Sonic 3 played once again by Carrey. He is the Eggman. Long live the Eggman Empire. What's more is that Alyla Browne is the new cast member for the movie and she confirmed on her Instagram post that she will b Eggman's late cousin Maria Robotnik who was tied to Shadow's origins. So the parents (who never played Sonic) better behave themselves and not send angry emails to Paramount complaining about a little girl getting killed in a game based movie made for their children to b silly and goofy. Don't let it be another Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (1990) situation please.
One thing that I’m somewhat hoping for in Sonic X Shadow generations (or any main timeline thing featuring shadow) is an in universe explanation for why his character changed so drastically
Imo, anything is better than how he was represented during the Metal Virus, just…..Jesus man. At least they brought him back to basics during the Eggperial City mini-arc, but I will never be able to get Shadow screaming for help out of my mind 💀
ya know shadow actually got way better after the metal virus arc ended in the comics he even says that he owes sonic and that he was stupid for taking what sonic said as cowardice while was still in the sol dimension after destroying the virus and plus in the earlier issues he wasn't bad either its really just that one moment that made him seem stupid in the comics. so shadows been getting better for ages now
Oh please, Shadow being humiliated for that Sonic could look better that's not what I'd call "making Shadow's character better". Making Shadow look like an idiot compared to Sonic, making Sonic the smartest of the two, making Shadow to owe Sonic something - that all is a pretty old thing that I got tired of. Shadow was being useless and dependind on Sonic since Archie, IDW just continues this. I'd say IDW is making Shadow better when he would stop being useless and stupid, when he would do something smarter than Sonic and when Sonic would be owing him something. And I want IDW use Shadow's superform and give him the opportunity to save the day, he shouldn't depend on Sonic all the time. IDW completely forgot that Shadow is actually as capable as Sonic.
@@ceylancobalt3117Agreed. It's just like how many times Vegeta got bested by Vegeta in terms of power levels, and the franchise kept constantly expecting us Vegeta fans to suck it up 🙄Similar sht, different franchise. Tired of it. At least it looks like nowadays Vegeta COULD finally get the upper hand or at least be on equal footing after all to Goku, with his Ultra Ego form. The people behind DB better not mess that up too
@@BasedVegeta what can I say. Some main characters like Sonic will always have a 100% plot armor. In all the latest games, comics and even in Prime series Sonic is winning mostly thanks to his plot armor. And all other characters are just cheerleaders to him. Like Sonic fans love to say "Sonic is the main character so he should always be the best, the strongest, the fastest and the smartest".
Since Shadow Generations is making shadow return to the franchises he needs to have more abilities and more levels and not just westopolis and have his super form return to battle devil doom(Black doom's form) just like in his own game👍
I tried to find a new and better rival, girlfriend, love interest for Shadow the Ultimate Lifeform, so he can move on, stay away from Sonic the Hedgehog and his friends forever... A Mermaid-like creature similar to: 1.) Ariel and Eric (from Disney's The Little Mermaid; 1989 movie) 2.) AndrAla and Matrix (Enzo Matrix) (from ReBoot; 1990s TV series) 3.) And more... A Swordfighter similar to: 1.) Karai (from Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles series) 2.) Ravager/Rose Wilson (from DC Universe, Teen Titans series) 3.) Mara Jade Skywalker (from Star Wars; Expanded Universe/Legends) 4.) Blade (from Gunvolt Chronicles: Luminous Avenger iX, Azure Striker Gunvolt series) 5.) Laura Kinney/X-23 (from Marvel, X-Men series) 6.) And more... 😔However, it's not gonna happen, and never will. Because Sega and Sonic Team doesn't care. It is what it is.😔
What is bad shadow representation? What is good shadow representation? I have been a day one shadow fan since sa2, but I've always enjoyed him, even In the "Bad" Shadow days. What exactly is it that people want from him? Why can't he be an angry guy. Only exception in see is in Boom where Shadow is just hating, but Boom was a parody. And I'm okay with him being an angry guy. The main reason I liked Shadow is because he's a serious and Edgy guy. Little me never saw him as anything more nor did I think he needed to be anything more.
That sonic prime narrative needs to die. Shadow was only characterized as quote on quote good cause they characterized sonic so bad. If one character needs to be written horribly in comparison to how they are usually written for another to be good then that’s not good characterization.
Shadow is the overrated character that is just edgy and boring that should have stayed dead! Knuckles, Tails and Amy are far better characters that dump on him
Honestly yeah the Sonic movies have impacted and helped the sonic franchise a lot
For sure, the movies brought more attention to Sonic to the more casual audiences who weren't big on Video games and brought him to the mainstream level he was at in the early 90's, now you see sonic everywhere which I never really saw in the 2010's, it was usually mario stuff.
Actually, Frontiers impacted the series and saved it from the Fandom bashing the franchise again and again. A game based movie series didn't do much to help save the series from sucking again post 06. Frontiers saved the series from sucking and the toxic Fandom bashing the series post 06 while Colors and Generations r the only games to not get bashed by the toxic fans. I still honestly do not find Lost World and Forces to b horrible games. If u ask me, Boom: Rise of Lyric is the true worst Sonic game ever, worse than 06 and Shadow.
@tommydiaz-millan2438 you see I aint ask allat I said the movies helped
I wholeheartedly agree with this, especially if you look at Tails as well. I CANNOT wait to see this film, especially because as a kid, Shadow was one of my faves. It’s a bit cheesy but that story and character arc of SA2 was what made me want to create my own characters and write them arcs like Shadows. And I did, and currently have a graphic novel WIP full of those complex characters. I’m confident they’ll do him justice, and if the movie does well, which I’m pretty sure it will, I’d love to see another hedgehog who also inspired me to try new things with my characters and give them unique abilities get a refresh. I literally jumped when I saw the quick frame of Silver because he deserves so much more love then he gets. If anyone could change the perception of Silver, it’s the team behind the Sonic movies. Love your videos and content as always!
The fact shadow 05 is getting the love it deserves with sonic x shadow gens is peak
06
My bad. I misread.
It is just terrific that both characters Shadow and Knuckles are getting that proper writing and care
based on their characterisation I am definitely looking forward to both the new Sonic X Shadow Generations and the upcoming Sonic Movie 3 this year on December the 20th.
It was only the Boom Knuckles that is being portrayed as a complete fool. The Knuckles from the mainline games is still the tough guy character we already know. Movie Knuckles is already that Knuckles from the games (not just the old ones from the 90s).
The G.O.A.T. is back!!!
Shadow fans rise up! We're definitely in for it this year, and I'm intrigued as to how everything goes this year for Sonic... or Shadow in this case. If the movies were able to redeem Sonic, Tails, and Knuckles, then I think they could definitely redeem Shadow if they know what they're doing. I'm quite confident in Paramount's ability to cook up another great movie. I hope stuff like Sonic X Shadow Generations is also good as well. Shadow really needs some kind of redemption. As a Shadow fan, I really want him to be written well again. Sonic Prime was a start, but we need to keep going.
I'm all for it, they can't mess up his character this time!
I hope Shadow gets the makeover he deserves, he’s such an awesome character and I hope he can be the best character move forward ( not to say he isn’t but in last years he hasn’t been at his peak) but I hope the Sonic movie can make that happen.
The Sonic movie will make shadow as popular as he was in the early 2000's I'm betting.
@@justinarzola4584 I hope so
I just my cool, quiet hero back.
So far my favorite depiction of Shadow in this current era is Murder of Sonic the Hedgehog.
Him having a whole adventure under a time limit to get tickets for Amy's birthday gift about a band he knows she's interested in.
It genuinely the coolest thing he's done in years. What makes Shadow cool is that he cares. As grumpy and angy as he looks, he values the people in his life.
LETS GOOO Shadow is finally getting his character fix because Shadows character during the meta era was… not good at all. I can’t wait to see how Shadow will be handle in Sonic Movie 3. Now please paramount take your time making Shadows character this year instead of rushing his character. Great video my dude)
Don't worry. They fixee knuckles well. He ain't a dumb but strong character and they understood that. I'm sure they are going to fix shadow
Question, but what would be "Bad" Shadow representation be?
@@FowaJCT Boom Shadow, and what he recently was like in the games before forces
Vegeta the Rodent @@FowaJCT
@@FowaJCT Sasuke the Hedgehog
I have literally lost passion for everything because of my studies, please wish my passion come back for Sonic's series, especially this year because Shadow is my favorite character 😭.
But still I'm so excited for the movie!
"Blue streak, speeds by" The lightning has always been there for sonic.
Blue streak just means blur, what does that have to do with lighting? You are reaching.
Sonic movie 1 was one of the first good video game movies so not everyone went to see it. Sonic Movie 2 came just after the Corona crisis, so not everyone went to the theaters. So I think Sonic Movie 3 will do much better than the previous 2 movies
I freaking love this year (2024) so much! Shadow’s always been my favorite! While I love his Sonic Prime portrayal, the moment I had faith that Shadow’s character was finally being given true justice was in his scene in The Murder of Sonic the Hedgehog game. I mean, him deciding to buy concert tickets for Amy for a boy band and biting the bullet by going with her for her birthday is just so adorable and what I believe is closer to how Shadow originally was before the mandates. The guys has a soft spot behind his gruff exterior, especially for Amy since she helped him remember his actual promise to Maria. That’s more like the Shadow that I know was still there and has been in our hearts. 😊
It’s really happy to see Shadow supposedly be resorted to his good old characterization. Just like Knuckles has in recent years, he’s gradually going to become his good self again
I can't wait to see Sonic 3, and I'll have it be the first movie that I will have ever watched in a theater twice instead of once! I'm looking forward to playing Sonic X Shadow Generations too. I think that Sega may finally have understood how much of a wrong idea it was to make Shadow be acting like an edgeloard, and are listening to the multitude of fans who are absolutely fed-up with that unwanted personality change and very much want the version of Shadow who had better characterization in SA2, Heroes, and 06 to return. I also think that the Sonic 3 movie has a chance to possibly become the highest grossing 2024 new release movie. Mostly from how hyped lots of people are worldwide for it because it will include Shadow along with elements from his debut game being adapted into it, and that it will also have the most highly wanted song from the Sonic games playing in it (Live and learn) because it was confirmed that Paramount made a deal with Crush 40 to get the rights to SA2's banger theme song so that it can legally be added into that movie!
I’m hoping Shadow Rouge & Omega would be returning in the future Cause Shadow hasn’t seen them in a really long time since Team Sonic Racing but they change Shadow in Prime
I feel confident about the movie because of this quote Pat Casey gave on Shadow that makes me believe they do understand his character from the first game:
"He's a match for Sonic, but with such a different personality. And unlike Knuckles, who's sort of just misled, Shadow is driven by anger and revenge. I almost feel like Sonic, when he encounters Shadow, he's like 'Well I'll just teach him about the power of friendship like with Knuckles' badda bing bada boom, but that's not going to work on Shadow, you know? Sonic's never had to deal with someone as emotionally damaged as Shadow."
That last line in particular. They understand he was full of wrath in the first game, but also knew that his anger wasn't from proving he's better than Sonic or that he's a loner, but that he's had a rough past and is struggling to come to terms with it.
Anyways, considering Knuckles' personality is mainly based on the Adventure games with a bit more naivete to match Sonic 3 & Knuckles, I have a lot of confidence.
Whats the bracelet on Shadows wrist at the end of the video? It wasnt an inhibiter ring and had some sort of orange Gem in it.
Part of the upgrades you can get in that game!
Can Shadow please go back to how he was in SA2? I’m not all that fond of the grumpy edge-lord who acts like he’s above others and doesn’t need help in Heroes, his own game, and 06. Shadow used to show respect to others, especially Sonic in SA2 with this quote: “Hahaha, Sonic! I think I've discovered what the ultimate life form is... it might be you!” Also, when he switched to being good in that game, it really felt like he was being good and trying to make amends. The only reason why Shadow was “edgy” (more like sinister) is because he wanted to achieve what he thought were Maria’s wishes, which is revenge against the people of Earth. But for some reason, fans and writers decided to have edginess be a core part of Shadow’s character today. What Shadow needs right now is to “open [his] heart [because] it’s gonna be alright”. Also, if Kirk Thornton doesn’t do a good job voicing Shadow in Generations remastered, then he needs to be replaced. I miss how melancholic yet light-hearted Shadow’s voice was in SA2. David Humphrey gave such an emotionally deep voice for Shadow.
You want SA2 Shadow back just because he respected Sonic in that game? That's the only valuable Shadow's characterization to you? That he was doing curtsy to the main hero? And what about Sonic showing some respect for Shadow? Maybe he should do it too? Maybe it's Sonic who should finally learn to respect someone instead of being full of himself all the time? Cause in all latest games he was the one and only allmighty hero while everyone else was totally useless.
I have a feeling that Sonic's fanboys prefer SA2 Shadow only because of that stupid phrase about Sonic being the real ultimate life form. And when Shadow shows some self respect and shows that he doesn't need Sonic to get the job done, you call him an edgelord. Forgetting that Shadow is actually as capable as Sonic and deserves some respect too.
@@ceylancobalt3117No, that’s not the reason why I solely want SA2 Shadow to return, and I’m not looking for Shadow to constantly praise Sonic but just show a good amount of respect to him and others. I just want his entire characterization from SA2 to come back, like being a symbol of lightheartedness and hope when he’s abiding by Maria’s true wishes. I don’t think of guns, vehicles, cursing, and working for GUN, which is the corrupt, government, military organization that killed Maria, to be traits that define lightheartedness and hope. Those aspects are just unnecessary and cringe-worthy additions to Shadow that make him a symbol of emo edginess instead. Shadow in SA2 is also like Sonic, if Sonic suffered through tragedy and was broken by it. Shadow showed signs of playfulness and arrogance, just like Sonic, which is how the rivalry between Sonic and Shadow was represented in SA2. What I really want is for Shadow to just lighten up. Hence why I said that he needs to “open [his] heart [because] it’s gonna be alright”.
@@supersaiyanfox9190He wasn't 'emo' dude 🙄And fyi, a lot of people LIKE the 'edgier' version of Shadow. As for Sonic...he can really be grating and obnoxious at times. But people don't seem to be character assassinating him as much for how annoying he can be, many people would rather pick on Shadow (like you). Leave Shadow alone, he's been through enough story-wise
@@BasedVegeta You’re acting kind of emo yourself, dude. I’m just saying that I want Shadow to be Shadow again. Not Shadow the Edge-lord but Shadow the Hedgehog. I personally think that everything about Shadow and his characterization in SA2 is not just omitted from the Meta era, but it’s also completely omitted from Heroes, his own game, 06, and even Prime. I would at least like SA2 Shadow’s characterization to fuse with Shadow the Edge-lord, instead of it to be completely removed. I honestly think that Shadow the Edge-lord fans defend the character because of nostalgia and the serious, dark elements. The execution of these dark stories for Shadow is just too much though, to the point that he’s never been the same character after SA2. That’s my major problem with Shadow the Edge-lord. He’s not the same character as SA2 Shadow; the real Shadow; “a brave and heroic hedgehog, who gave his life to save this planet: Shadow the Hedgehog.”
@@supersaiyanfox9190 seems like you want Shadow to serve as a function to Sonic. You want him just to be another Sonic's copy, not himself. You practically didn't say anything about Shadow himself, you're constantly referring to Sonic while talking about Shadow. You didn't say anything about Sonic needing to learn to respect other characters including Shadow.
Shadow is his own separate character. He has his own personality, his own story, that has nothing to do with Sonic. He shouldn't depend on Sonic. He shouldn't make his choices based on Sonic's opinion. He can use weapons and vehicles if he wants to, that fits his pragmatic nature. As for cursing, say thanks to english version, there is no cursing in japanese.
Maria was killed 50 years ago, the current GUN isn't responsible for this tragedy. Shadow understands that and he had left his past behind. He can do whatever he wants now. He is neither another Sonic, nor Sonic's copy. I myself don't like Shadow The Edgelord but I don't like Shadow The Sonic's Cheerleader either. Shadow in Heroes, 06, Battle, Prime was good. Shadow in japanese ShTH version was pretty decent, especially compared to Boom! or IDW! Shadow.
I so desperately want a shadow the hedgehog game remaster.
I can agree with most points you have provided, when the movie released and did well i realize how they taken some stuff from it as time goes on because they find out the people really like some of them so they simply added it in the games to help it's performances.
All i can say i I'm excited for the movie and I'm hopeful that it will do well and possibly fix or make a better characterization of shadow but i would also be prepared if it doesn't so far only time can tell but always stay positive 👍🏾
The whole Vegeta topic was never a fair comparison. Vegeta has more characterization and development than what the meta era did to Shadow.
I don't think we got any lightning from idw Sonic, but we did get surge a Sonic rival with eletric abilities
5:27 Now how EXACTLY do you know this?
Steam listing. My fault should have said that in the video. Heres the link: store.steampowered.com/app/2513280/SONIC_X_SHADOW_GENERATIONS/
Yea yea yea that's great about the movie appearance of Shadow, but if we're talking about the third movie of Sonic, we don't just talk about Shadow, we should also b talking about how it was confirmed by variety (despite not doing any interviews or any news if he was gonna do it or not) that Jim Carrey will reprise his role as Eggman and it proves we haven't seen the last of him and this will b SA2 the movie where Eggman will free Shadow from his capsule like he did in the game. No Agent Stone replacing him this time like Snively from SATAM replacing his uncle Robotnik so that "pre-quill" comic proved wrong and it only runs on canon and it wasn't. Eggman is indeed alive and will return for Sonic 3 played once again by Carrey. He is the Eggman. Long live the Eggman Empire.
What's more is that Alyla Browne is the new cast member for the movie and she confirmed on her Instagram post that she will b Eggman's late cousin Maria Robotnik who was tied to Shadow's origins. So the parents (who never played Sonic) better behave themselves and not send angry emails to Paramount complaining about a little girl getting killed in a game based movie made for their children to b silly and goofy. Don't let it be another Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (1990) situation please.
hope movie make shadow as sa2 heroes and 06
One thing that I’m somewhat hoping for in Sonic X Shadow generations (or any main timeline thing featuring shadow) is an in universe explanation for why his character changed so drastically
My thoughts: 🤞 for the remaster and movie.
Imo, anything is better than how he was represented during the Metal Virus, just…..Jesus man. At least they brought him back to basics during the Eggperial City mini-arc, but I will never be able to get Shadow screaming for help out of my mind 💀
ya know shadow actually got way better after the metal virus arc ended in the comics he even says that he owes sonic and that he was stupid for taking what sonic said as cowardice while was still in the sol dimension after destroying the virus and plus in the earlier issues he wasn't bad either its really just that one moment that made him seem stupid in the comics. so shadows been getting better for ages now
Oh please, Shadow being humiliated for that Sonic could look better that's not what I'd call "making Shadow's character better". Making Shadow look like an idiot compared to Sonic, making Sonic the smartest of the two, making Shadow to owe Sonic something - that all is a pretty old thing that I got tired of. Shadow was being useless and dependind on Sonic since Archie, IDW just continues this. I'd say IDW is making Shadow better when he would stop being useless and stupid, when he would do something smarter than Sonic and when Sonic would be owing him something. And I want IDW use Shadow's superform and give him the opportunity to save the day, he shouldn't depend on Sonic all the time. IDW completely forgot that Shadow is actually as capable as Sonic.
@@ceylancobalt3117Agreed. It's just like how many times Vegeta got bested by Vegeta in terms of power levels, and the franchise kept constantly expecting us Vegeta fans to suck it up 🙄Similar sht, different franchise. Tired of it. At least it looks like nowadays Vegeta COULD finally get the upper hand or at least be on equal footing after all to Goku, with his Ultra Ego form. The people behind DB better not mess that up too
@@BasedVegeta what can I say. Some main characters like Sonic will always have a 100% plot armor. In all the latest games, comics and even in Prime series Sonic is winning mostly thanks to his plot armor. And all other characters are just cheerleaders to him. Like Sonic fans love to say "Sonic is the main character so he should always be the best, the strongest, the fastest and the smartest".
Writing is always normal in the Japanese version. Even in the 2010s
THIS IS WHO I AM!
Since Shadow Generations is making shadow return to the franchises he needs to have more abilities and more levels and not just westopolis and have his super form return to battle devil doom(Black doom's form) just like in his own game👍
6:55 There's nothing wrong with that bro 🙄
Much like people do.
Shadow the hedgehog birthday is March 14th
Glad the movies didn't impact Sonic's character...cause Sonic is the thing I hate the most about the movies.
I tried to find a new and better rival, girlfriend, love interest for Shadow the Ultimate Lifeform, so he can move on, stay away from Sonic the Hedgehog and his friends forever...
A Mermaid-like creature similar to:
1.) Ariel and Eric (from Disney's The Little Mermaid; 1989 movie)
2.) AndrAla and Matrix (Enzo Matrix) (from ReBoot; 1990s TV series)
3.) And more...
A Swordfighter similar to:
1.) Karai (from Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles series)
2.) Ravager/Rose Wilson (from DC Universe, Teen Titans series)
3.) Mara Jade Skywalker (from Star Wars; Expanded Universe/Legends)
4.) Blade (from Gunvolt Chronicles: Luminous Avenger iX, Azure Striker Gunvolt series)
5.) Laura Kinney/X-23 (from Marvel, X-Men series)
6.) And more...
😔However, it's not gonna happen, and never will. Because Sega and Sonic Team doesn't care. It is what it is.😔
helloooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i liked shadow before he became cooler
What is bad shadow representation? What is good shadow representation? I have been a day one shadow fan since sa2, but I've always enjoyed him, even In the "Bad" Shadow days. What exactly is it that people want from him? Why can't he be an angry guy. Only exception in see is in Boom where Shadow is just hating, but Boom was a parody. And I'm okay with him being an angry guy. The main reason I liked Shadow is because he's a serious and Edgy guy. Little me never saw him as anything more nor did I think he needed to be anything more.
Exactly
Soon my GLORIOUS FROSTED TIP HEDGEHOG SHADOW will get the characterization he deserves 🫡🫡🫡
Yooo
That sonic prime narrative needs to die. Shadow was only characterized as quote on quote good cause they characterized sonic so bad. If one character needs to be written horribly in comparison to how they are usually written for another to be good then that’s not good characterization.
Finally, he needed to wear pants eventually.
Who cares, I want Silver and Blaze playable.
Second!
I think the movies will ruin Shadow. Not as badly as IDW, but he will be a far cry from SA2, Archie, and 06.
Hopefully, we could witness him removing inhibitor rings with Shadow not maintaining his transformation as efficiently as Sonic does.
@@mazkeraid4039 That would be cool.
Do NOT jinx it, dude...
Shadow is the overrated character that is just edgy and boring that should have stayed dead! Knuckles, Tails and Amy are far better characters that dump on him