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Exactly how life goes, well documented job that went a riot. No fake bullshit or trying to make it look like everything is always perfect, real life plumbing. Great video mate
Been watching your videos for a few years now. In that time I've replaced a few toilets, a few radiators, all of my taps and done a few minor repairs. You've saved me a fortune.
As the engineer of a major London theatre, we had around 50 toilets. If one of them broke or developed a problem, we had 15 minutes to replace it between performances. The spare was already assembled in the workshop and the plumbing was in a duct behind. Simply turn the water off, undo the cap and lining in the duct, unscrew the pan, pull the old one out, replace with the spare, refix the pan, reconnect the water. Job done. All the screws were either brass or stainless, so their was no corrosion to worry about and being close coupled, we did not fix the cistern to the wall. We also had a cutout of damp proof felt, to avoid the need for sealing We could also replace just the cistern if the pan was fine. The old unit was then taken back to the workshop and refurbished for next time. With 2 guys working together. I have seen the replacement completed in less than 5 minutes. In public buildings, it was just the normal way of life. Needless to say, I hate domestic work. Replacing a toilet for a friend took me the best part of a day. LOL
Thing I love about this channel is you show the good and the bad. As a chippy, I’ve done this a few times, cutting cables is easy fix, cutting or drilling into pipe work is really not fun.
but would you charge the customer money for repairing the cable or pipe work like this guy did? I took my car into a garage for repairs once and they blew the engine. They paid for the replacement engine themself because it was their fault.
Best vid I’ve seen in ages. Total respect for showing even experts sometimes encounter unexpected problems. Really good to see the recovery method you used. Keep them coming.
@@plumberparts no answer? No more insulting comments? Any more jokes about my deceased mother? Kind of proves the person you are tbh, i really hope we meet some time in the future. Merry Christmas to you and yours.
Great Video and Well Done for showing what can happen to all us pros. Being an "Old School" In the bad old days we fitted those S type pans through the floor and upturned the pan and filled it with mortar with a hardboard cover, turned it over again and laid it in position then slid off the hardboard. Left the job overnight and it was set to the floor in the morning. Post Fix would have done us proud. How many guys have struggled to remove those. Cheers Buddy
Oh wow I've always wondered how that worked. I hate trying to remove those toilets. And I come across so many where the hardboard wasn't removed but left in position for 30 odd yrs
I’ve always wondered how those pans were fitted without making a mess. Thanks for explaining how the big ball of cement got there I’m chipping out when ripping them out 👍
We removed a cemented pan, obviously have to smash the pan to bits but once that's done a few good wallops separated the cement from the floor in one go.
OMG. I really felt the pain of that. Couple of things from my years of suffering in this trade: Always put those cistern bolts on first as the flush and fill valves sometimes obscure the holes. Also, i always keep a couple of those brass compression burst pipe fittings on the van. They are about 10cm long and at least one end is a slip coupling. They can bridge quite a large removed section. That retailer you went to sells them item no. 85529.
Thanks for sharing this! Lucky you that you didn't do this in Sweden. Our plumbing standard does not allow hidden joints on mains water, e.g. no joints in the wall or concrete, you have to be able to inspect them. Normally , it should be pipe in pipe so you just replace the inner pipe without tearing up the floor. But if you are unlucky, you would have to redo the entire bathroom or lay new visible pipes all the way from some adjacent room where a pipe is accessible. But on the other hand, you are not allowed to drill in the bathroom floor to start with, everything is fixed with adhesive.
Pretty sure you are not allowed those joints in the UK either, as they are meant to be accessible - Should be soldered joints. However, as it is refurbishment and it was plastic pipe, there may be some leeway in the regulations.
Little advice (strangely not related to the “incident”) if you have been hands deep in urea and are washing them in the kitchen sink, remove the baby bottles yes they are probably going to be disinfected but just a little precaution. 9:31
At least the bog was on the ground floor. You would have been right in the Sh1t if it was upstairs. It happens to us all but it was nice to see you handle the situation in your usual way. With a smile on your face and as cool as a cucumber. Great video.
These are the best types of videos because anyone who does DIY knows not everything goes to plan. Knowing where the stopcock is located is number 1 priority 😂
@@Teqnyq No idea, but it's what a lot of people in England do - presumably, to advertise to the neighbours and passers by - most will find it funny - a few will find it distasteful!
@@Koh-Wei-Jian..yes that's exactly what I thinking..put the raw plug in and the screw and a very slow leek then he would have to rip it all aut again so he was very lucky really could have walked away..and then get the bad news...total nightmare...
Hi James. I want to change my bathroom radiator for a towel radiator and want it higher up the wall. Currently got 10mm microbore pipes coming out of the wall centre of the radiator. New towel rad has valves designed for pipes coming straight out the wall into the valve. I’d preferably like no plastic pipe on show. How would you go about this?
Mate so many new builds have pipes hiding underneath. I was securing a toilet the other day and went through a gas pipe. Luckily I knew what to do so I lit a match and legged it 🙂
On a serious note, I don’t think a detector would have picked that pipe up, it being plastic. Perhaps a test of different ways of finding pipes/cables would make a good video. Cheers mate.
Best instructional vid I've seen for yonks! Good to see that things can go wrong even for the professional. One of the things I'm taking from this is the importance of knowing where the internal stopcock is!
Brilliant recovery , expertly handled, I was instantly freaking out, that floors got a come up.. what a pro.. you should have a few more disasters very entertaining 😂
They keep making cisterns smaller and smaller to save water but the downside is your waste just ends up sitting in the waste pipe and doesn't properly flush away.
Loved this video. Amazzzing guy. Love his passion. Abit of solace for me knowing that I'm not the only one who has drilled into a floor pipe. Lol. 😅 Love you mate. Keep up your spirit and passion.
Done the same fitting a new shower unit to the wall pipe went vertical but then turned horizontal right across the new fixing position. felt your pain the joys of our trade either pipes or cables to hit.
Fantastic video James and fair play for posting. I would love for my wife to watch it so she'd understand that it's not just me that these things happen to 😅
Plumbing in real time, plumber of 40yrs and believe it or not I have never drilled or nicked a pipe yet lucky or what but doesn't stop me worrying about doing it.
I'm just re-routing the mains cold under my toilet and this video popped in my head, good shout this video, made me think a bit more about route and taking a photo of where the pipes are before the finish floor goes down.
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😂 I love doing DIY on my own house because I know where everything is.........I think 😮 and I hate bodgery......unless it's really necessary. Top entertainment value as ever James.
I like to see a JG speedfit connector on your videos. I have been using them for 38 years. Not a single leak. Which is more than you can say for a compression fitting! In a world where JGs exist, why does anyone use a compression fitting?
I’ve seen it done and a great way to reduce the flow, while you get the water off, is to put the drill back through where you’ve drilled, buys you some time to get the water off.
Great vid mate, Not a plumber, I'm a sparks but I fixed an electrical fault on some under floor heating the other day and the customer was unsure I'd fixed it? Luckily iv got a phone with built in thermal imaging i turned it on to show them the pipes warming up.... It was then I noticed the pipes going right under the toilet 😮lucky for the bathroom fitter he just missed them 😂
Good recovery! I can’t work out why a pipe was under there. The sink is to the right of the toilet, surely you would run a pipe from that direction? Possibly using the boxed in section to hide it in.
Inspiring how you dealt with that so graciously when you must have been fuming about being set up in effect by the previous 'plumber'. One thing I wondered about was the effectiveness of that very long and almost horizontal waste pipe. The one on my bathroom loo is not half as long or level as that and needs a kettle of water slinging in when I flush to empty the pan as the syphon action is weak.
Great you showed all the faults. My tuppence as a DIYer who has been plumbing for over three decades: - You will never know what lies beneath from previous work done by someone else, so always silicone. It actually grips much better (as you said). I place packers on both sides then run a bead of silicone in the gap. Pull the packers out and let it drop. - Have always used plumbing washers with the cistern mounting screws, not sure why manufacturers don't state this. - Good DIYers will usually do a better job than many tradesmen who, even if they know better, will rush a job to get to the next one. DIYers don't worry about the clock. - Having seen numerous TV shows (Property Ladder, DIY SOS etc) you see so called professionals doing all sorts of bodges. Seen pushfit fittings concreted in and all else! Calling a plumber is fine, but many don't know their arse from their elbow. Of course I don't mean you. :-)
Hello , Retired Plumber here . I remember fitting a new bath for an Elderly customer. A week later he said he had water coming through his kitchen ceiling . So i went back and looked under the bath and everything was bone dry ? I looked with a Torch , used shower head to check Silicone seal etc , but no leak . There was no other option but to break into kitchen ceiling , He had used 3 inch nails to fix down his plywood in the bathroom a pierced a 22mm Hot water pipe ! 🤣🤣🤣
How calm was you when that water starting coming up I would of cut filming and panicked 😂👏👏 fair play mate, bog fittted, drama sorted…just another day in the life of a plumber 😅👊
He was calm because he charged the customer money for the repair. so he made money from it. I would have panicked because of my loss of time and money because it's not fair to let the customer pay.
Quote of the video “If i had glued it we would be going home now” We all have our what ifs when it goes wrong This is real world plumbing as which one of us would have scanned the floor before we drilled that hole? None The way you said oh dear 😂😂😂 Your a legend in this game 💪🏼
Not repairing / fitting a toilet but watched anyway. Highly entertaining. If I was a tv commissioner I’d give you a show. Could be the plumbing equivalent of wheeler dealers.
i feel the pain,stress kills too,great video ,good job,i happened to drill a hole for condense pipe and went through a 22 mm hot supply ,the loft was above the flat upstairs and they wernt in...lucky for me the boy i was with climbed up the outside and got in through a window,while we used the washing up bowl to deflect the hot water .
I went into panic mode for you when I saw the water coming up, I've drilled through a water pipe myself and I'm not a plumber, you handled it very well, a good job done, cheers James.
Question... why not use a good quality push fit like hep02 instead of the copper? I thought the push fit in particular hepo02 was a good replacement. Is this incorrect
5:16 Do u know u can just pull the tubes out the middle of those blue center feed rolls so u don’t have to ‘unpick’ the edges of one or worry about it flapping around ? Just something I learned in a cafe that I never knew about but think it’s a good hack 👍🏼
I am a retired trades person (service engineer) and I used to dread doing work for people I knew - If something was going to go wrong, it would be at a friend's or relative's house. I really enjoy your films and have just ordered eveything I need to renovate my bathroom from Plumberparts. The prices are very competitive. 👍
😂😂😂 been a plumber for 20years. Shit happens. Im laughing but if it was me I'd be crying too. Had to be a solid floor and you couldn't send a skinny apprentice under the floor to fix it.😂😂
I shed a tear for you when that water came up through that hole!!! From one plumber to another I know that heart sinking moment when something like that happens 😅😢 really is a cruel game at times!
"This is why you never price jobs" and then he laughed his head off. So I assume that means the customer is paying for his screw up? If a customer brought a vehicle into my garage for repair and I crashed it, I couldn't say "This is why you never price jobs" and then charge the customer for additional repairs to the bodywork. The customer would be furious! If I brought my laptop into a computer shop for repair and they dropped it on the floor and it broke it, they certainly wouldn't get away with saying "this is why you never price jobs" because I wouldn't pay for their damage.
No lol it’s like you taking a laptop in for repair and the last people who repaired it put a small triggered explosive to go off when you take off the back casing.
That's not a valid comparison though. Had he sawed through a copper pipe assuming the water to be shut off, then flooded the place, that would be a comparison. Instead, what happened was "part of the task" after all, it was below a tiled floor where he didn't expect a pipe. There are circumstances where the person doing the work should pay, but much of the time things like this could not have been foreseen or checked for.
NEVER install pipes under toilets. It’s against building regs for exactly this reason. Also those who know me personally and not plonkers like the OP here know I’d have only charged £50 for the whole job anyway! Max constantly says I’m far too cheap - often working for free. But you guys don’t see that do you! 😂😂
I had a lock shield fail on me on a secondary circ hot water system.... I could hold it back with a rag but I knew I was in bother because at some point I had to leave it and find isolation valves.... A few deep breaths and off I went leaving hot water spewing out of a valve in a ceiling space.... I found valves in about 4 minutes..... The best plumbers are 1s who can cope with shit like this happening without panicking... Great work 👌👌
Curious when you run into situations like this what usually happens with the pricing? Is plumber obligated to honor original estimate or do they up charge for encountering unknown variables?
Recommends washing hands a lot ... Yes ....but not in the Bloody Kitchen Sink!!! Use a seperate two bucket system of antiseptic wash in the first and a rinse in the second, c/w paper towels into a disposable bag. Cheers from Michael. Australia.
last job yesterday was fitting a wc onto a concrete floor , pipework in the concrete , it got siliconed down :) excellent video outlining the pitfalls , keep em coming ,have a great christmas
Belated Congratulations on the new 👏 🙌 👏 new. Sorry for the delay had been dealing with a loss in family. Love all the videos and banter. Wish you the very 👌 best .. Damaging a pipe happens to the best of us we just have to learn from it. I would like to see 👀 hot water dispenser and water softeners as a new plumber of 2017 in my forties still learning and watching video for my new home 🏡 too.
What water pressure do your fixtures run at? In North America at 60 psi I feel like you'd have 4 times as much water shooting out if you hit a 1/2" pex pipe like that.
Try diamond core bits for drilling into hard tile. I install tile and the bosch bit don't last, break easily and take a long time. Just keep some cool water nearby to keep the bit cool for hard porcelain and use a dressing brick to refurbish the bit after use
Had very similar situation, when was removing skirting board and nail was literally inside radiator pipe and was leaking like 10 years! Use the same method with compression pipes to fix it!
Good job! Showing you’re a human being !! Reminds me of cutting a box in a studwork wall for a socket with a pipe lurking behind. That feeling when you see water shooting out! Your heart sinks ! WHERE DOES THE BLOODY WATER TURN OFF!!!??? QUICK STICK YOUR FINGER IN THERE !!!”
Great video as always but one observation. Sit a bit further back from the steering wheel in the van so that if you have a bingle and the airbag goes off, it won't decapitate you (being too close also makes it harder for the emergency services if they have to cut you out).
The flexible toilet pipes, when you take them off and reuse them do they seal well again? Ive heard people replace them to make sure they dont leak and ive also seen you do them and put some silicone on the rubber seal of the toilet flexi as well as a belt and braces approach?
always good to change the pan connecter as not all toilets are exactly the same so could start to leak if you dont replace awesome vid as always unluck with the pipe had that a couple times lol
Yeah kudos for showing everything. The only comment I'll make is for any job (maybe just because I'm a bit of a pessimist) I'd always find where the main cutoff (or the equivalent for the job) are just in case. Backups for PC stuff. Bucket or water at the ready for other stuff etc.
Maybe you're onto something. It's Omen. Recently, out of the blue, I found out that my friend's band was playing a concert at an art gallery called la boheme. Later that day I decided to watch the movie Goodrich with Michael Keaton. In this movie his daughter mentioned the name La Boheme and it hit me again that he owned an art gallery. It was spooky. All on the same day.
That's a great video and a tidy fix up. I had a similar looking situation in an understair toilet replacement. I suspected the water main ran right under it as it had no screws or glue. Taking no chances, I used Evo sticks like sh**t turbo on it. It never moved.
Moved into a brand new house over a year ago and me andy wife can constantly smell a urine like sell blowing from the bathroom around our upstairs we cleaned floors the drains the toilet it self and nothing seems to work and it alot worse in the summer we're getting pretty tired of it now and ruining our home . What do you suggest we do . Our housing association came out put some clay like stuff around our toilet pipe which as not worked we are very clean people. But also when we moved in we noticed the toilet itself was clearly used I'm guessing by the builders as the u bend was covered in I guess urine and lime scale . Do you think a new replacement toilet could fix the issue or do you think it's could something more complex. I have 3 young children breaking this in everyday and it's not healthy and I'm worried .
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Exactly how life goes, well documented job that went a riot. No fake bullshit or trying to make it look like everything is always perfect, real life plumbing. Great video mate
Been watching your videos for a few years now. In that time I've replaced a few toilets, a few radiators, all of my taps and done a few minor repairs. You've saved me a fortune.
Hit the thanks button then and send me a fortune! 😂😂😂 Seriously though glad to help. 👍
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Freebie Plumbing? No wonder things went wrong!
Further proof there's no such thing as a 5 minute job. Excellent recovery James!!!
As the engineer of a major London theatre, we had around 50 toilets. If one of them broke or developed a problem, we had 15 minutes to replace it between performances. The spare was already assembled in the workshop and the plumbing was in a duct behind. Simply turn the water off, undo the cap and lining in the duct, unscrew the pan, pull the old one out, replace with the spare, refix the pan, reconnect the water. Job done.
All the screws were either brass or stainless, so their was no corrosion to worry about and being close coupled, we did not fix the cistern to the wall. We also had a cutout of damp proof felt, to avoid the need for sealing
We could also replace just the cistern if the pan was fine.
The old unit was then taken back to the workshop and refurbished for next time.
With 2 guys working together. I have seen the replacement completed in less than 5 minutes. In public buildings, it was just the normal way of life.
Needless to say, I hate domestic work. Replacing a toilet for a friend took me the best part of a day. LOL
sooo many times my 5 minute jobs turn into me focusing on the work for 5, the prep and thinking took 10-20 min
The cursed "Only take 5 mins" jobs hahaha
Your attitude through that was impressive. I'd be cussing up a storm. Nicely done.
Thing I love about this channel is you show the good and the bad. As a chippy, I’ve done this a few times, cutting cables is easy fix, cutting or drilling into pipe work is really not fun.
but would you charge the customer money for repairing the cable or pipe work like this guy did? I took my car into a garage for repairs once and they blew the engine. They paid for the replacement engine themself because it was their fault.
@@MarkLikesCoffee860 no
Like which guy did? James was doing this as a freebie probably just got a bottle of wine or a six pack!
Best vid I’ve seen in ages. Total respect for showing even experts sometimes encounter unexpected problems. Really good to see the recovery method you used. Keep them coming.
I love you more than ale....!
This guy is not an expert😂😂😂😂
That’s what your Mum said! 😂 Happy Crimbo!
@@plumberparts whats my mum got to do with it? Doesn't make any sense.....
@@plumberparts no answer? No more insulting comments?
Any more jokes about my deceased mother? Kind of proves the person you are tbh, i really hope we meet some time in the future. Merry Christmas to you and yours.
That was a brilliant video!! Good to see things go wrong for even the most confident of plumbers!! Good work!!
Great Video and Well Done for showing what can happen to all us pros. Being an "Old School" In the bad old days we fitted those S type pans through the floor and upturned the pan and filled it with mortar with a hardboard cover, turned it over again and laid it in position then slid off the hardboard. Left the job overnight and it was set to the floor in the morning. Post Fix would have done us proud. How many guys have struggled to remove those. Cheers Buddy
Oh wow I've always wondered how that worked. I hate trying to remove those toilets. And I come across so many where the hardboard wasn't removed but left in position for 30 odd yrs
I’ve always wondered how those pans were fitted without making a mess. Thanks for explaining how the big ball of cement got there I’m chipping out when ripping them out 👍
We removed a cemented pan, obviously have to smash the pan to bits but once that's done a few good wallops separated the cement from the floor in one go.
OMG. I really felt the pain of that. Couple of things from my years of suffering in this trade: Always put those cistern bolts on first as the flush and fill valves sometimes obscure the holes. Also, i always keep a couple of those brass compression burst pipe fittings on the van. They are about 10cm long and at least one end is a slip coupling. They can bridge quite a large removed section. That retailer you went to sells them item no. 85529.
why didn't you use pipe inserts for the plastic pipe?
Thanks for sharing this! Lucky you that you didn't do this in Sweden. Our plumbing standard does not allow hidden joints on mains water, e.g. no joints in the wall or concrete, you have to be able to inspect them. Normally , it should be pipe in pipe so you just replace the inner pipe without tearing up the floor. But if you are unlucky, you would have to redo the entire bathroom or lay new visible pipes all the way from some adjacent room where a pipe is accessible. But on the other hand, you are not allowed to drill in the bathroom floor to start with, everything is fixed with adhesive.
Pretty sure you are not allowed those joints in the UK either, as they are meant to be accessible - Should be soldered joints. However, as it is refurbishment and it was plastic pipe, there may be some leeway in the regulations.
Little advice (strangely not related to the “incident”) if you have been hands deep in urea and are washing them in the kitchen sink, remove the baby bottles yes they are probably going to be disinfected but just a little precaution. 9:31
Omg, yes correct. If I ever did that the mother would have beat me senseless for endangering her infant! And bury my under that broken pipe!
Thought the same
Either way still be touching them one way or another.
A beauty of a video to show the apprentices. How a straight forward job can go tits up 👍🏻
😂😂😂
At least the bog was on the ground floor. You would have been right in the Sh1t if it was upstairs. It happens to us all but it was nice to see you handle the situation in your usual way. With a smile on your face and as cool as a cucumber. Great video.
These are the best types of videos because anyone who does DIY knows not everything goes to plan. Knowing where the stopcock is located is number 1 priority 😂
Glad to see you put the old bog on the front drive, as is tradition.
Lol, why is it tradition? 😂
@@Teqnyq No idea, but it's what a lot of people in England do - presumably, to advertise to the neighbours and passers by - most will find it funny - a few will find it distasteful!
@@mikebashford8198 nice. I'm going to look out for this 😂
I see it all the time in the UK and makes me giggle haha .
@@Teqnyq Its the front drive toilet that people put out for passersby to use.
The air would have been bluer than the blue roll if that had happened to me! Well done for carrying on and showing how to fix! Great video 😊
Pans all siliconed down since 2010. Learned this lesson long time ago.
UFH wet or electric was also a consideration. Fair play for posting this one 👍🏻
@@DekaWilsondepends if the vinyl has been cut around the pan. Get what you mean though
Good lesson to always find the main water water shutoff location before working on plumbing.
I know right! Good lesson for a plumber!
Yeah isolators for each component are overrated. I’m going to stop fitting them from now on!
It is lucky for this case, they didn't turn off the water main, so the issue can be identified right after it happened.
You dont turn it off...Its just nice to know where it is before anything happens@@Koh-Wei-Jian
@@Koh-Wei-Jian..yes that's exactly what I thinking..put the raw plug in and the screw and a very slow leek then he would have to rip it all aut again so he was very lucky really could have walked away..and then get the bad news...total nightmare...
Great vid. Good to see it’s not just us DIY’ers that have these nightmare situations. Lovely recovery.
Great video James, shows what can go wrong,and, shows that even when things don’t go to plan it can be fixed! 😅
Hi James. I want to change my bathroom radiator for a towel radiator and want it higher up the wall. Currently got 10mm microbore pipes coming out of the wall centre of the radiator. New towel rad has valves designed for pipes coming straight out the wall into the valve. I’d preferably like no plastic pipe on show. How would you go about this?
Plumbing is definitely not an easy job, but u did a great job fixing the problem. Well-done.
Mate so many new builds have pipes hiding underneath. I was securing a toilet the other day and went through a gas pipe. Luckily I knew what to do so I lit a match and legged it 🙂
Loving your sense of humour 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Please leave your contact details so I can recommend you to my mates! 🤣
Ha!
On a serious note, I don’t think a detector would have picked that pipe up, it being plastic. Perhaps a test of different ways of finding pipes/cables would make a good video. Cheers mate.
@@hoog111 yeah I agree
Best instructional vid I've seen for yonks! Good to see that things can go wrong even for the professional. One of the things I'm taking from this is the importance of knowing where the internal stopcock is!
Brilliant video .just goes to show you how easily things can go wrong very entertaining good job done
You remained very calm and professional Master Lawrence.
Absolutely fabulous recovery
Drill or dig enough holes into the unknown then eventually you get a surprise.
Definition of FAFO haha
Brilliant recovery , expertly handled, I was instantly freaking out, that floors got a come up.. what a pro.. you should have a few more disasters very entertaining 😂
They keep making cisterns smaller and smaller to save water but the downside is your waste just ends up sitting in the waste pipe and doesn't properly flush away.
And saving water is a far higher priority
Loved this video. Amazzzing guy. Love his passion. Abit of solace for me knowing that I'm not the only one who has drilled into a floor pipe. Lol. 😅 Love you mate. Keep up your spirit and passion.
Glad you enjoyed it!
The solemn 'I hate my life' with head bowed, shoulders slumped and on wet knees was comedy gold❤️⭐
Done the same fitting a new shower unit to the wall pipe went vertical but then turned horizontal right across the new fixing position. felt your pain the joys of our trade either pipes or cables to hit.
Well done chap, especially working under that pressure. The (gone wrong) vids are especially interesting to watch 👍👍👍👍👍😂
Forgive the crying emoji, my fingers 🤦♂️
You’ve literally just convinced me to buy your plumbing course mate. Great work! 🙏
Fantastic video James and fair play for posting. I would love for my wife to watch it so she'd understand that it's not just me that these things happen to 😅
Indeed! 😂
James lad! I'm I spark came across your video. You're funny as with your videos. Well done, bud
Thanks
Plumbing in real time, plumber of 40yrs and believe it or not I have never drilled or nicked a pipe yet lucky or what but doesn't stop me worrying about doing it.
I'm just re-routing the mains cold under my toilet and this video popped in my head, good shout this video, made me think a bit more about route and taking a photo of where the pipes are before the finish floor goes down.
FEW THINGS: I DID USE AN INSERT - Also I'd not normally pop JG under the floor, but it held fine under test and can't pop off because it's bagged and cemented in for gods sake! I look forward to all your moaning though...you old gits!
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This is the real world, and uncovering unknowns is always a test. Great recovery sir.
😂 I love doing DIY on my own house because I know where everything is.........I think 😮 and I hate bodgery......unless it's really necessary.
Top entertainment value as ever James.
Shame the job went to shit but its good for people to see the everyday struggle of plumbers always something fighting you
I like to see a JG speedfit connector on your videos. I have been using them for 38 years. Not a single leak. Which is more than you can say for a compression fitting! In a world where JGs exist, why does anyone use a compression fitting?
Real life plumbing at your phone. Great video fully enjoyed
I’ve seen it done and a great way to reduce the flow, while you get the water off, is to put the drill back through where you’ve drilled, buys you some time to get the water off.
Great vid mate, Not a plumber, I'm a sparks but I fixed an electrical fault on some under floor heating the other day and the customer was unsure I'd fixed it? Luckily iv got a phone with built in thermal imaging i turned it on to show them the pipes warming up.... It was then I noticed the pipes going right under the toilet 😮lucky for the bathroom fitter he just missed them 😂
Good recovery! I can’t work out why a pipe was under there. The sink is to the right of the toilet, surely you would run a pipe from that direction? Possibly using the boxed in section to hide it in.
Cracking video, good to see the solution for the problems that can happen. I wouldn't expect anything less from a pro, cheers.
Inspiring how you dealt with that so graciously when you must have been fuming about being set up in effect by the previous 'plumber'. One thing I wondered about was the effectiveness of that very long and almost horizontal waste pipe. The one on my bathroom loo is not half as long or level as that and needs a kettle of water slinging in when I flush to empty the pan as the syphon action is weak.
Thank you so much for capturing this moment on video, I genuinely haven’t laughed this hard all year 😂😂😂😂
Haha! Cheers!
Actually, the correct answer to the question at 4:21 of what compound is in DEF/AddBlue is in fact: Urea.
Searched for this comment ;-) - If there's ammonia in your urine, you should go see a doctor.
Great you showed all the faults. My tuppence as a DIYer who has been plumbing for over three decades:
- You will never know what lies beneath from previous work done by someone else, so always silicone. It actually grips much better (as you said). I place packers on both sides then run a bead of silicone in the gap. Pull the packers out and let it drop.
- Have always used plumbing washers with the cistern mounting screws, not sure why manufacturers don't state this.
- Good DIYers will usually do a better job than many tradesmen who, even if they know better, will rush a job to get to the next one. DIYers don't worry about the clock.
- Having seen numerous TV shows (Property Ladder, DIY SOS etc) you see so called professionals doing all sorts of bodges. Seen pushfit fittings concreted in and all else! Calling a plumber is fine, but many don't know their arse from their elbow. Of course I don't mean you. :-)
There in Latvia(in my town) we got 70 psi or 4.7~ atm water pressure... imagine what would happen if you drill in that kinda pressure :)
I'm guessing no plastic pipe tho 😅
Great job, this is what sorts out the men from the boys, when things go wrong 👍🏻
Hello , Retired Plumber here . I remember fitting a new bath for an Elderly customer. A week later he said he had water coming through his kitchen ceiling . So i went back and looked under the bath and everything was bone dry ? I looked with a Torch , used shower head to check Silicone seal etc , but no leak . There was no other option but to break into kitchen ceiling , He had used 3 inch nails to fix down his plywood in the bathroom a pierced a 22mm Hot water pipe ! 🤣🤣🤣
Great video James it’s good to show even the professionals don’t always get it right the first time . Keep them coming
Happy Christmas
Mark B
So glad i seen this video. I've been watching your videos for years and this one just proves that not all jobs go smoothly, even for the pros.
How calm was you when that water starting coming up I would of cut filming and panicked 😂👏👏 fair play mate, bog fittted, drama sorted…just another day in the life of a plumber 😅👊
He was calm because he charged the customer money for the repair. so he made money from it. I would have panicked because of my loss of time and money because it's not fair to let the customer pay.
Very unlucky with the drill into an active pipe mate 😔. Thank you for showing warts and all. Great video . Cheers from Michael. Australia.
Quote of the video
“If i had glued it we would be going home now”
We all have our what ifs when it goes wrong
This is real world plumbing as which one of us would have scanned the floor before we drilled that hole? None
The way you said oh dear 😂😂😂
Your a legend in this game 💪🏼
Ha! Cheers man!
Not repairing / fitting a toilet but watched anyway. Highly entertaining. If I was a tv commissioner I’d give you a show. Could be the plumbing equivalent of wheeler dealers.
Haha! Thanks man.
I feel for you mate. That was rotten luck! At least it was a downstairs bog and you didn't stain someone's living room ceiling.😯
True!
i feel the pain,stress kills too,great video ,good job,i happened to drill a hole for condense pipe and went through a 22 mm hot supply ,the loft was above the flat upstairs and they wernt in...lucky for me the boy i was with climbed up the outside and got in through a window,while we used the washing up bowl to deflect the hot water .
Absolutely love this video. I like plumbing DIY but wow, I hope this doesn’t happen to me for anything.
I went into panic mode for you when I saw the water coming up, I've drilled through a water pipe myself and I'm not a plumber, you handled it very well, a good job done, cheers James.
I haven't drill fixed a toilet for about 7 years, most are so heavy nowadays that a bead of silicone is all you need
Really? Didn’t know that was a thing, not sure if I’d trust it, I’m still fixing the feet, how do you do it, bet it saves your back?
Genuinely interested if it makes life easier
@louiscockcroft6047 haven't had anyone say it's come loose so all good
@@simmo321 do you do a bead around the outside or draw a template once it’s in place and do a bead underneath?
@@louiscockcroft6047 around outside base
Question... why not use a good quality push fit like hep02 instead of the copper? I thought the push fit in particular hepo02 was a good replacement. Is this incorrect
WHAT A F**KING ball ache. Good on you for posting it.
5:16 Do u know u can just pull the tubes out the middle of those blue center feed rolls so u don’t have to ‘unpick’ the edges of one or worry about it flapping around ? Just something I learned in a cafe that I never knew about but think it’s a good hack 👍🏼
Real life plumbing mate 😮💨😂
I am a retired trades person (service engineer) and I used to dread doing work for people I knew - If something was going to go wrong, it would be at a friend's or relative's house. I really enjoy your films and have just ordered eveything I need to renovate my bathroom from Plumberparts. The prices are very competitive. 👍
😂😂😂 been a plumber for 20years. Shit happens. Im laughing but if it was me I'd be crying too. Had to be a solid floor and you couldn't send a skinny apprentice under the floor to fix it.😂😂
Quality vid mate.
Easy to show the good days.
We've all been there.
Thank your lucky stars it's the ground floor.
Vids where it goes wrong are far more informative
I shed a tear for you when that water came up through that hole!!! From one plumber to another I know that heart sinking moment when something like that happens 😅😢 really is a cruel game at times!
"This is why you never price jobs" and then he laughed his head off. So I assume that means the customer is paying for his screw up? If a customer brought a vehicle into my garage for repair and I crashed it, I couldn't say "This is why you never price jobs" and then charge the customer for additional repairs to the bodywork. The customer would be furious! If I brought my laptop into a computer shop for repair and they dropped it on the floor and it broke it, they certainly wouldn't get away with saying "this is why you never price jobs" because I wouldn't pay for their damage.
No lol it’s like you taking a laptop in for repair and the last people who repaired it put a small triggered explosive to go off when you take off the back casing.
🥜
That's not a valid comparison though.
Had he sawed through a copper pipe assuming the water to be shut off, then flooded the place, that would be a comparison.
Instead, what happened was "part of the task" after all, it was below a tiled floor where he didn't expect a pipe.
There are circumstances where the person doing the work should pay, but much of the time things like this could not have been foreseen or checked for.
@@richardwillson101I tip my hat to you sir! Being a plumber myself I wish all homeowners had this level of understanding.
NEVER install pipes under toilets. It’s against building regs for exactly this reason.
Also those who know me personally and not plonkers like the OP here know I’d have only charged £50 for the whole job anyway! Max constantly says I’m far too cheap - often working for free.
But you guys don’t see that do you! 😂😂
I had a lock shield fail on me on a secondary circ hot water system.... I could hold it back with a rag but I knew I was in bother because at some point I had to leave it and find isolation valves.... A few deep breaths and off I went leaving hot water spewing out of a valve in a ceiling space.... I found valves in about 4 minutes..... The best plumbers are 1s who can cope with shit like this happening without panicking... Great work 👌👌
No good deed goes unpunished.😂
Curious when you run into situations like this what usually happens with the pricing? Is plumber obligated to honor original estimate or do they up charge for encountering unknown variables?
Depends if you’re on a price or an hourly rate for the job. As this was for my friends it was all free! 😂😂😂
Big respect to all plumbers out there having to deal with the cowboy work / diy efforts of the person in before them.
Another great video, thanks, James. Did you put silicone under the pan also or just around the perimeter? Thanks Chris.
No speedfit insert?
Recommends washing hands a lot ...
Yes ....but not in the Bloody Kitchen Sink!!! Use a seperate two bucket system of antiseptic wash in the first and a rinse in the second, c/w paper towels into a disposable bag. Cheers from Michael. Australia.
last job yesterday was fitting a wc onto a concrete floor , pipework in the concrete , it got siliconed down :) excellent video outlining the pitfalls , keep em coming ,have a great christmas
Belated Congratulations on the new 👏 🙌 👏 new. Sorry for the delay had been dealing with a loss in family. Love all the videos and banter. Wish you the very 👌 best ..
Damaging a pipe happens to the best of us we just have to learn from it.
I would like to see 👀 hot water dispenser and water softeners as a new plumber of 2017 in my forties still learning and watching video for my new home 🏡 too.
What water pressure do your fixtures run at? In North America at 60 psi I feel like you'd have 4 times as much water shooting out if you hit a 1/2" pex pipe like that.
To be fair, there was practically a 1/2" hole on each side. That's less a hole and more an open pipe. And that'll cause a big pressure drop lol
Try diamond core bits for drilling into hard tile. I install tile and the bosch bit don't last, break easily and take a long time. Just keep some cool water nearby to keep the bit cool for hard porcelain and use a dressing brick to refurbish the bit after use
Had very similar situation, when was removing skirting board and nail was literally inside radiator pipe and was leaking like 10 years! Use the same method with compression pipes to fix it!
You are absolute class. Nice to see even pros have issues on the job:)
Good job! Showing you’re a human being !! Reminds me of cutting a box in a studwork wall for a socket with a pipe lurking behind. That feeling when you see water shooting out! Your heart sinks ! WHERE DOES THE BLOODY WATER TURN OFF!!!??? QUICK STICK YOUR FINGER IN THERE !!!”
Great video as always but one observation. Sit a bit further back from the steering wheel in the van so that if you have a bingle and the airbag goes off, it won't decapitate you (being too close also makes it harder for the emergency services if they have to cut you out).
The flexible toilet pipes, when you take them off and reuse them do they seal well again? Ive heard people replace them to make sure they dont leak and ive also seen you do them and put some silicone on the rubber seal of the toilet flexi as well as a belt and braces approach?
I had never seen this toilet installation system, in what state is this work done
always good to change the pan connecter as not all toilets are exactly the same so could start to leak if you dont replace awesome vid as always unluck with the pipe had that a couple times lol
Yeah kudos for showing everything. The only comment I'll make is for any job (maybe just because I'm a bit of a pessimist) I'd always find where the main cutoff (or the equivalent for the job) are just in case. Backups for PC stuff. Bucket or water at the ready for other stuff etc.
Good vid help me fit new bog ,
Side note Post mix you drop dry in the hole and add water afther
That crow knew what was gonna happen 😂
Haha!
Maybe you're onto something. It's Omen. Recently, out of the blue, I found out that my friend's band was playing a concert at an art gallery called la boheme. Later that day I decided to watch the movie Goodrich with Michael Keaton. In this movie his daughter mentioned the name La Boheme and it hit me again that he owned an art gallery. It was spooky. All on the same day.
That's a great video and a tidy fix up. I had a similar looking situation in an understair toilet replacement. I suspected the water main ran right under it as it had no screws or glue. Taking no chances, I used Evo sticks like sh**t turbo on it. It never moved.
Moved into a brand new house over a year ago and me andy wife can constantly smell a urine like sell blowing from the bathroom around our upstairs we cleaned floors the drains the toilet it self and nothing seems to work and it alot worse in the summer we're getting pretty tired of it now and ruining our home . What do you suggest we do . Our housing association came out put some clay like stuff around our toilet pipe which as not worked we are very clean people. But also when we moved in we noticed the toilet itself was clearly used I'm guessing by the builders as the u bend was covered in I guess urine and lime scale .
Do you think a new replacement toilet could fix the issue or do you think it's could something more complex.
I have 3 young children breaking this in everyday and it's not healthy and I'm worried .
Even with your finger on the floor...the pupe underneath keeps flowing!
SHUT THE VALVE!
I kept yelling this....
I hang kitchen cabinets on screws half that length!! :D
Thanks for sharing. Great to see that things don't run smoothly for even pro's
What a great job you’ve done there under the circumstances I’m well impressed with how you coped with the damaged pipe you are “ super plumb”