Salt Lake City: SERIOUS Push for MLB, NHL to Utah
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Chapters:
0:00 How quickly Utah has moved
2:00 Not just the Utah Jazz
2:51 Two BIG groups in Utah
4:25 2034 Winter Olympic Bid
5:36 Big League Utah
6:58 Utah wants the A's... HOW?
8:30 Utah going after the Arizona Coyotes?
11:25 Utah population growth
13:04 Utah PRO SPORTS predictions
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Salt Lake City is a fine destination for pro sports. It's small but you aren't competing with a bunch of other entertainment options. It's a growing city with a decent economy and even a surprisingly good rail system for public transportation. The Jazz and Real Salt Lake are well supported teams.
The SLC market really isn't small anymore, bigger than 8 nfl markets such as Vegas, Buffalo, Kansas City, Cincinnati and others.
SLC is actually a bigger tv market than Vegas is, weirdly enough
I believe you but Vegas changed the focus to live revenue by having 40m annual visitors looking to spend money on something. Allegiant Stadium leads the NFL in ticket revenue despite having one of the smallest seating capacities. The Golden Knights avg attendance is 104%.
@@carlgemlich1657Raiders fans come from LA where the Raiders had a bigger fan base then when they were in Oakland .Raiders only play 9 home games and most all on Sundays so people come in for a weekend . There is no fan base in LA or Las Vegas for the A’s as Las Vegas is a Dodger town .Nobody is going to come into Las Vegas during the week to see the A’s play teams like Cleveland , KC or most anyone else’s other than the Yankees , Red Sox and maybe Angel fans ..The VGK are number 1 a Vegas born team .The fact the misfits went to the Stanley Cup final their first year made the team lovable especially after what happened after that tragic mass shooting ..Last year at the VGK Stanley Cup parade Gov Lombardo was booed because of the A’s deal ..They aren’t wanted in Las Vegas
@@BoulderCityBlues I agree with all that you said. I don't want them either. I was just selling Vegas as a sports city.
From an SLC local. Salt Lake absolutely has been a sleepy sports town on the national scale due to limited pro level sports. But it’s definitely an area on the upswing the no signs of stopping. Those of us that have lived new this was coming at least since the year 2002 & now here we are
Also Utah will not accept an outside owner coming in. We know our people is what makes our teams special. So the A’s or Coyotes would have to sell
I get the feeling that Las Vegas and Nevada are at least temporarily tapped out when it comes to building a new baseball stadium. How's this for a scenario...Salt Lake does such a great job of hosting the A's that the A's stay. That might give Nevada and Las Vegas a chance to do something constructive on the stadium situation with an eye toward expansion. The problem is that the Fisher ownership group strikes me as completely inept and they might wear out their welcome in SLC the way they did in Oakland. I can absolutely see the Coyotes landing there.
@@togoandmoss I'm sure Las Vegas has plenty of money. My reference to being "tapped out" was more about the willingness to spend hundreds of millions of dollars to support a completely inept and ham-handed A's ownership group. From what I've seen those guys couldn't organize a two car funeral.
@@mikeh92467 I agree Vegas is tapped out, even money wise surprisingly enough. But if the Miller group forces the A's to play in the new smaller ballpark in South Jordan, that would stink. Fisher is inept but just ever so slightly more than the MIller Group.
@@cactusjackNV I'm beginning to wonder if Commissioner Manfred is completely fed up with the Fisher group and is just letting them screw themselves.
As a Rockies fan living in the south…I hate this for Oakland. No city should ever have a team ripped away from them. I still feel bad for Seattle.
In addition to the teams mentioned in the video, the Utah Royals of the NWSL are coming back after a 3 year absence thanks to the efforts of the Real Salt Lake owners to bring them back. Also the area is home to the Warriors of the MLR (rugby) who play at Zions Bank Stadium in Herriman. They are one of the league's most successful teams when it comes to attendance as they have finished in the top 5 each season in that category since they joined the MLR in 2018.
Spot on with "Wasatch," just like a Utahn. I was raised in Utah but my mom came here from an hour west of Oakland, so I've followed your podcast because I was interested in the Giants and A's and now here you're talking about Utah. Life's funny.
The NHL has too many teams already. Arizona? Columbus? Winnipeg? Pick one and move it to SLC. And why don’t the A’s move to Portland or Vancouver?
Salt City A's I like the sound of that . Thank you giving Utah some luv we appreciate it .
I have a strong feeling that we’ll get a Salt Lake City mlb expansion announcement by the end of this year or in 2025 along with Nashville, as far as NHL goes my guess is that they’ll expand to Salt Lake City and an Eastern Conference city like Atlanta, Gary Bettman is so adamant about trying to keep the Coyotes in the Phoenix area for some reason I get that Phoenix is a big market but the Coyotes haven’t had any success finding a new arena deal in place so that’s just my opinion we’ll see how it all plays out
The only problem I can see with Utah is sundays.
Brodie, we would love for you to be an television analyst for the Salt Lake A's after the move, you can pronounce Wasatch right.
🤣 glad i'm qualified haha
I defiantly agree to that.
I would agree with the Coyotes speculation, except that they moved from Winnipeg in 1996 and Gary Bettman would have to admit to making a mistake. The relocation of the Thrashers to Winnipeg has already made him look ridiculous, and his ego won't allow him to let the Coyotes leave. Either he has to resign or be fired, or one of the two Utah ownership groups will have to add something to the offer to allow him to save face. I don't know what that would be.
Great video! The SLC metro population is deceiving as you mentioned- in reality, 2.7 million people live within 30-40 miles of SLC. It’s a great time to be a sports fan here and I REALLY want MLB/NHL!
I would hate to have other markets lose their franchises, however. Seeing the A’s leave Oakland makes me sad.
I think the Coyotes will end up relocating to Salt Lake City
Salt Lake City will get the Canucks as the Canadian Dollar will lose its value resulting in relocation just like the mid 1990’s and the Coyotes will stay in Arizona for the foreseeable future.
The Coyotes have an arena problem, not the Canucks. Besides, Vancouver is currently leading their division. If the Canadian dollar was weaken, then all 7 Canadian teams would seek relocation. In the 1990’s, only the Winnipeg Jets and Quebec Nordiques. The Jets left for Arizona only because they did not have a modern arena. So, the Nordiques is the only team to relocate due to the weak Canadian dollar
@@Itshadow306 Drinking the idiot juice again? Coyotes fans love it!
Utah wants the A's IS an incomplete statement. We don't want the A's playing in Utah as a relocated team with its current ownership. Have them play before moving to Vegas? Sure. But Utah supports bring MLB to Utah under new ownership.
So does Oakland
Coyotes would be a great team to put in SLC
Great video Brodie, you're coming with stats and facts
For the 2034 olympics they are actually not one of the front runners... They are the only Frontrunner, there are actually no other major bids active for those olympics and they are awarding the location officially in just 5 months.
Best video yet. One thing I would argue agaists is this is not a recent push. MLB and NHL have been actively discussed in certain circles for more than 2 years. As for the A's, they are a play for Utah in 2025 (temporarily), and the desire is to have this be the first step to get an expansion team in 2027-28. Utah would like to be in position #2 if Vegas were to fall through, cough, cough. The thing about the Big League Utah is they want ownership of a team not just to see an existing team come in with legacy owners. The play for Hockey for SEG to build a new stadium south of downtown. Utah fans are not ultra excited to see the Jazz move out of the city center, but it's easier to force a move to a new stadium in Draper, UT with a NHL and NBA teams calling it their home. Of course state funds would be sought after, and much like the Day Break project they want it to be a commercial complex owned/controlled by SEG and others ironically that sit on the Big League Utah board. PS the Utah Yetis are a leading name for an NHL team. This is a play on the "U" (Utah Utes) and "Y" (BYU)... just sayin.
thanks for watching!
Another great video Brodie I am hug fan of your work keep up the good work
Considering that the largest stadium in Utah is a college football stadium, and that RSL averages 19,000 attendance in a 20,000 seat arena, I think Utah is a bit sports starved. Utah has the youngest demographics in the U.S. and is growing extremely fast. It seems an inevitablity that more pro teams will come here
Maybe the A's are looking at the wrong place to relocate. At least SLC acts like they really want them, and actually have a place for them to play, with no waiting. It sounds like SLC is trying to steal Vega's new boyfriend, that Vegas isn't really interested in anyway.
I agree, it seems like Vegas is Luke warm on getting MLB. Maybe because they are getting the NFL Raiders.
The A’s come with baggage, controversial ownership and well documented juicers, we’d rather have a clean slate with an expansion team.
Just an advisory… but Portland Diamond Group is going to offer $50 million for a golf course that Portland happens to own (on land annexed to Beaverton, go figure) for a stadium/development site.
After what happened the last time they had the Olympics(bribery) im surprised they're even considering them again with the hubbub surrounding 02. But i guess time & more money make people forget alot of things
Whatever else can be said about Mitt Romney, he did the Olympic movement and the nation a good solid favor by cleaning up the organizing committee and making sure the Salt Lake 2002 games were among the most profitable winter games in history. While the IOC is taking its old sweet time awarding the 2030 Winter games, Salt Lake City would, again, be a most deserving host especially with the added benefit of having existing facilities in place.
As much as I absolutely want the A's to stay in Oakland, if they move to SLC permanently instead of Vegas, then it will be abundantly clear they just wanted out of Oakland regardless of where to. Not that they had any affinity for Vegas. Then it will also feel even more gross and sad.
Of all the fans in the stands at a Las Vegas Raiders game, how many of them are tourists? I think that works for the NFL, with one game a week. I think in baseball LV is going to need more of a base than the city can provide.
As a baseball fan, I think an MLB expansion would be a bad idea. Baseball already has a problem with the talent pool not being deep enough to give every team a good roster that has the potential to succeed.
I think between Utah and the states around them who want to show they can support an NHL team and love hockey a team would be incredibly popular. I hope the next major sports team is an NHL team. All the best Utah.
I can see the post-Fisher A's making a go of it in Salt Lake proper. Not a slam dunk by any means, but they'd have a chance. In a far-flung white picket fence suburb like Daybreak - South Jordan, Draper, whatever you wanna call it - getting people to fill that kind of a stadium for 82 home games is pushing it. Pushing it hard. Everybody keeps dropping this 3.5 million pop number for the Salt Lake metro. But that number includes a base that stretches from Ogden in the north to Provo, or even Spanish Fork in the south. That's about a 70 mile drive as I remember, and it's as brutal a drive as the East Bay during rush hour. Other than a hundred thousand or so peppered out in the West Valley (until they run out of water in Tooele) the lion's share of people are smashed into that narrow strip of land between the Wasatch Range and the Great Salt Lake and/or the Oquirrh (O-ker) Mountains to the southwest. I'm not trying to be negative here, but just mentioning that the logistics are restrictive. If they stray too far away from the transportation hub - which is Salt Lake proper - they will face catchment and identity problems trying to cater to the minivan brigades in the south 'burbs...To the point of Utah growth. Utah doesn't have waves of migration like Phoenix. It's probably the only American metro that actually replenishes its population internally. Yeah. They have a lot of kids there... 😏 ...So yeah, done right, it would be a great baseball market (and already is with the Bees)...
its not anywhere near east bay during rush hour lol.
@@gramsta836 The Point? Midvale? Centerville? Layton? I've driven I-15 there. It's comparable to the 80 at rush. They've made improvements on The Collectors and I-215, but you've gotta get to them first...
If SLC gets a MLB team I don’t want it to be temporary.
Well no Brodie can’t really compare Phoenix to Salt Lake City. Phoenix is the 11th largest media market in the country while Salt Lake City is 27th. Phoenix has a population close to 2M while Salt Lake City is close to 200k. Hard to envision them being home to multiple pro franchises.
How phoenix USED to be, was my point
Word... 😏 ...But you gave city populations, not metros. And Salt Lake is a super small city by geographic area. It's literally smashed in between the Great Salt Lake and the mountains. And politically landlocked to the north and south. The metro goes forever though and is in fact quite crowded...
@@brodiebrazilPhoenix metro is 5 million now. The big reason Gary Bettman won't give up on the Coyotes. Not including Tucson BTW...
You can't look at SLC as just 200,000. Other cities in the suburbs have populations with 100,000+ or pushing that.
This is why he mentions the Wasatch Front in the video and not just SLC.
While yes technically Salt Lake only has a population of 200,000 you can’t completely ignore all the other cities surrounding it that makes up of over 1 million people.
The only minor correction I would provide is the ECHL is just the ECHL. It doesn't stand for East Coast Hockey League any more.
Gen Z is moving to Utah in droves for some reason and the Olympics are coming to SLC. This is ironic as gen z has zero disposable income and religious trauma
PGA/LPGA also coming to Utah. Southern Utah New Gulf course. Black Desert
Though a comparison to Vegas isn't as it was already a travel destination and also has a population over 2x the size of Salt Lake. Also, Vegas didn't already have as big a minor sports footprint that Salt Lake already does.
Utah is a great sports market. The Jazz, Utah football, Real, Byu all fill their stadiums and have strong followings.
MLB Padres or Angels will be a potential relocation from S/D or L/A to SLC as the Utah Mormons.
We welcome the "Utah expert" anytime.
Nashville & Charlotte will be awarded MLB expansion teams this 2020s.
Perhaps one of those will, probably not both. You would need a western franchise.
@@ckstaff: Athletics will relocate from Oakland to Las Vegas & Padres can future relocate from San Diego to Salt Lake City as the Utah Mormons. There you have both MLB teams to balance & remain on the western region.
An expansion team would would thrive immediately in Las Vegas, give us the expansion team and you can have the A’s
Where ever they go unless it’s Las Vegas nobody in Las Vegas will even be able to follow them because of MLB broadcast contracts ..How the hell do you get people interested in a team they can’t even follow .This is the biggest failure in the history of the game ..
@@togoandmossYou’re incorrect ..individuals would have to pay to get the MLB network to get out of market games …
They can have them just don’t come to Vegas
If the A’s can’t get a deal done in Oakland then Utah is the next best choice for relocation, not Vegas. Vegas residents don’t want the A’s. Utah would give build them a beautiful new stadium and the locals would love that team so hard for picking them… good vibes and a loyal fan base just waiting to jump on the big green band wagon.
If the As go to Utah then I hope SLC changes the team name and keep the As history with Oakland. Utah Athletics sounds lame. Same way when Washington changed the Expos name to Nationals after the team was relocated from Montreal.
Utah should be an expansion team anyways. Team would be new and competitive with a better ownership group that has money with an expansion draft.
As are terrible with no payroll to spend free agents every year and sign players + bad owner alongside the team being bad overall.
But I would love to see Utah get NHL and MLB team. Easier chance to lure Coyotes since they were kicked out from the lease of the arena with the Suns.
Las Vegas should have an expansion team as it was planned out before. Utah might take pity on a billiobum like Fisher, but Vegas won't stand for his incompetance...
You are aware, aren't you, that the Athletics actually played almost as long in Philadelphia as they have in Oakland, and then played for a while in Kansas City before finally arriving in Oakland in 1968? I understand the feeling that the Jazz name doesn't really fit Utah and that it really should go back to New Orleans, but I'm not sure why Utah Athletics sounds any lamer than Oakland Athletics. And since (assuming that the A's leave) it doesn't seem likely that Oakland will have an MLB team to claim the name any time in the foreseeable future, there's no point in reserving the name for them. In 50 years people are more likely to remember the old Oakland A's teams if the name is carried on somewhere else than they will if the name goes out of current use.@@Melbester9
@@Melbester9 It is doubtful Oakland will ever get another pro sports Franchise if they move. So while I understand the sentiment. The problem is the Giants would own the rights to the area after the A's leave and will prevent any team or expansion team being put in Oakland.
@@danielkerber8667 All the pro sports team left Oakland except the As. If they leave, the city is a dead sports town
We want sports in Utah. There isn’t much to do and the fans are LOYAL. I don’t know if we really want Oakland’s hand me down but we’ll take it if that’s what we get. Anyone who has ever been to a bees game or a griz game knows that the Mormans can get wild.
In terms of affiliations, the Bees can become the AAA team of (Insert name of future MLB franchise here), with the Angels moving their AAA affiliation to Fresno (Chukchansi Park was built for a AAA team, most recently AAA Giants). The only issue would be the Rockies and their Low-A affiliation. I would say they could take the building in Lancaster...but that's about to be converted to a soccer-specific building. Maybe Bakersfield? My knowledge of former California League teams is a little spotty with me being on the East Coast.
Utah’s Governor Spencer Cox is fully on board with Utah hosting both MLB and NHL. Salt Lake City’s Mayor Erin Mendenhall is also on board, and has expressed interest in making sure a new NHL arena is built in the city. In addition, several other cities are wanting to host the new arena, so Ryan Smith has options.
Oh, and unlike the Utah Jazz, the Utah Coyotes is a ream name that makes sense.
I remember when the blues had a minor league team in Salt Lake City in the Central Hockey League league league
Utah archers(Pll)
The Raiders should be in Los Angeles instead of Las Vegas. Chargers should have stayed in San Diego if it could have happened. Utah Athletics or Oakland Athletics!
Most sports pundits up here in Canada feel the Coyotes are toast in Arizona and will be going to Salt Lake City most at the start of the 24/25 season. It would be interesting Brodie what the Hockey Guy has to say about that. I know you've recently spoke with him. As for baseball, well Fisher, give up on Vegas! Putting the A's there isn't going to pan out. Sorry, they just don't want you. So, if you must relocate so frigging bad look at Salt Lake City. They really want the Athletics franchise on a permanent basis, and they
And they don't seem to care that you're a pathetic owner.
Canadians have an agenda against the Coyotes. They know nothing about them or the Phoenix market
Phoenix has the 11th Largest TV media share, SLC is 27th.
Which is still quite large (bigger than Pittsburgh, smaller than Nashville) but NO WAY does AZ go to SLC. Upwards, never downwards unless you’re the Thrashers ownership group.
@@GizmoBeachno way? I’ll come back in a few months to this comment when they announce the move
If anything it’s the Canadian teams with it’s declining currency and population that’s in danger of relocating then the current Sun belt teams.
Having the A's switch to SLC would be fantastic. Let them deal with John Fisher. Swap AAA teams with the Angels so the A's have their top minor leaguers right down the road. Less need, if not no need for a dome/retractable roof in SLC, so Fisher might actually be able to afford a stadium.
And the best part of all of it, Las Vegas can then focus on the expansion team it wants. Las Vegas wouldn't have to deal with a complete joke of a stadium because the owner is too cheap/too broke to build a quality stadium with a retractable roof. They could also build on a better site that isn't completely dependent on the demolition of a property owned by a company who can't current afford to replace it.
OR Las Vegas could actually accept that baseball, due to when the season is and how many games there are, isn't the draw that the shorter, cooler seasons in the NFL, NHL and NBA are.
Salt Lake doesn't need to build any venues for the Olympics. They have kept all of their venues from 2002 in use.
I think Salt Lake wants to be the new Vegas but I personally feel they need to get their priorities straight and figure out what they want is it the Olympic, is it MLB or NHL they should pick one and put their sole focus into that
That photo of downtown needs to be updated. It seems to be quit old Its missing half the current skyline. You forgot to mention the Utah Royals.
I rather UTAH get the A's than VEGAS
STAY IN OAKLAND
That ship has sailed. No place to build and don't get me started on HT. That was a joke.
@@scotttildOooh! What's YOUR beef, pray tell?... 😃
@@CARWASHCHANNEL. Well, maybe if Fisher would stop his infantilistic insults of Oakland and BS revisions of his history there he might get a lease extension. Maybe even a new stadium. But he wants to leave, so leave. We'll hold the door open for him...
Funny lol.
@@scotttildoh you mean no place to build like where they are? Or do you mean like 9acres of a hotel parking lot?
Have the A’s go where they are wanted. Vegas seems to not want them. First, Fisher has to sell the team and make this happen. End the A’s saga where the team can move forward.
I believe the only way we see leagues beyond 32 teams is if they split into two seperate leagues in a sense. Say a Western League and Eastern League that play seperate before meeting in a championship series like the old MLB days
That’s probably how the direction the NHL is going to have to go seeing as they don’t know when enough is enough when it comes to adding more teams
Utah should get a hockey team probably a relocated team like the Arizona team. This way they could stay in the same division. The Athletics could play a season or two in Salt Lake to see if there is fan interest in baseball. Nevada doesn't seem interested in the Athletics they would prefer an expansion team. It Utah has support for a baseball team and is willing to pay for an MLB stadium then let them have the Athletics and have Nevada have an expansion team. The Jazz should change their name to something specific to the area and let New Orleans have the Jazz name if they want it.
SLC is behind Houston, Quebec City, and Atlanta (I know not again) for the next NHL teams. It's all about the TV markets.
Atlanta has already failed twice.
Atlanta has already failed twice.
Atlanta has already failed twice.
Atlanta has already failed twice.
No it isn’t
Vegas just got saved from bum fisher lol
The Utah Rangers perfect NFL franchise or relocate an MLB Texas team to Utah and you'll havr a Utah Rangers baseball team.
I think there needs to be a general retirement of "the big 4" its the big 5 now, MLS is too big and popular to ignore any more
I don't entirely disagree with you... would be interesting to see what the numbers say on attendance, viewership, revenue etc. good conversation
the Utah Grizzlies are already there
I used to smoke weed with Larry H. Miller
They want mlb,NHL,NFL,UFL
Salt Lake City having a MLB team, even temporarily? Methinks the Colorado Rockies would have something...rather vehement to say about that idea.
The NFL should have a team in Utah, what else if not a Jewish owned baseball team with the steroid era returning to the MLB and getting away with murder will be called the Law on The Lord's side.
The NFL should have a team in Utah, what else if not a Jewish owned baseball team with the steroid era returning to the MLB and getting away with murder will be called the Law on The Lord's side.
The NFL should have a team in Utah, what else if not a Jewish owned baseball team with the steroid era returning to the MLB and getting away with murder will be called the Law on The Lord's side.
The NFL should have a team in Utah, what else if not a Jewish owned baseball team with the steroid era returning to the MLB and getting away with murder will be called the Law on The Lord's side.
The NFL should have a team in Utah, what else if not a Jewish owned baseball team with the steroid era returning to the MLB and getting away with murder will be called the Law on The Lord's side.
As an M's fan, this whole process has been wild to watch. It's kind of crazy to think about the situation the A's are in.
Plan A seems to be sellout to Vegas and further despoil baseball with gambling culture and a weak media market.
Plan B is to let the Mormon Church's inner circle use baseball to launder the money they're stealing.
I'm not a fan of either scenario. Oakland is the closest team to Seattle, SLC would be better from a geographic standpoint but that's not enough for me to want to get involved with a man from Utah named "Smith". I really hope Oakland keeps the A's.
Oakland was willing to be in the Howard Terminal waterfront project for about $960mil ish i forget the number now, but it was near $1 billion for onsite AND OFFSITE infrastructure. It was literally going to be an entire district next door to Jack London Square. The owner is broke as shit for pro sports and MLB badly wanted in Las Vegas for the gambling. It really is the worst and most inexcusable relocation in sports history. Everyone has been complicit in this ridiculous process. A sane organization would have told Fisher he's gonna come up with the other billion to build that waterfront or sell to groups that actually have the assets to do so. They're in the Bay Area, the ballpark could literally be named Pixar Studios Park. Pixar... which is like 10 mins or less away lmao. How about Google? Uber? SAP? Clorox (fortune 500 company based in Oakland)? Apple? Intel? Facebook? You get the idea... there's plenty of $$$ sponsors. It truly goes to show you just how bad Fisher's ownership group really is.
This is exactly why lawsuits should be flying and they mfer fisher should be outed
Kaiser owns half of Oakland
They speak of the community….big sponsor
Utaha
Just toss a soccer team that's it.
#MLBPDX
Portland has higher population (50m shy of the entire state of utah) higher wealth and lower crime than Salt Lake City.
I will die on this hill.
They can have the hockey team though, hope they enjoy it
Lower crime rate?!! You’re on drugs dude.
This Nevadan says we want to save our tax dollars stay in Oakland or go to Utah.
I think SLC can support any league except the NFL. Fast growing, wealthy population, strong support for preexisting teams, Infrastructure to support multiple sports teams. Only concern would be the LDS influence regarding alcohol sales and Sunday home games.
The jazz has a really high attendance even on Sundays and Utah could more than support an NFL team.
It's not really a concern at all. RSL comes close to selling out most of their games, even on sundays, and they have a dedicated beer vendor in stadium. Yeah there are a few zealots who try and pass legislation, but lately a lot of that has been removed. It used to be illegal to serve alcohol at R rated movies, but the state court ruled it unconstitutional, and they removed the alcohol percentage cap a few years ago too.
And as for the LDS population there is a massive fight about whether or not watching TV or going to games is proper. Most don't care, and I think they would rather welcome more sports teams
Build the Arenas, Raise Property Values and Tax the crap out of the Population with increasing taxable values. Only those making tons of cash wants this. Private and Public partnerships, the rest of us just get to pay for it in the form of increased taxes. Taxpayers wont directly pay for it, but they will pay. But then again who gives a crap about the population anyway?
I do think Utah can support a MLB team. I think NHL relocation would be better bet though. Utah does have a lot going for it. Low taxes, low crime rate, a growing downtown. I would rather be someplace in Utah as an owner then Portland any day of the week. At least Utah has a normal state government.
No one wants to live in Utah is the issue
Getting water rights in the state of Utah is a bitch. Easier to get a gun in California 😅
All that Mormon money
Move the Chargers to Salt Lake City, l don't want another scenario where a city has NBA, MLS and maybe one day MLB and NHL, but no NFL just like Los Angeles from 1995-2015.
Utah will never support NFL since they play on Sundays. The NBA has historically worked with the Jazz to host very few games in SLC on Sundays due to fan support and religious conflicts. This NBA seasons say the first home game on a Sunday in SLC since 2001. NFL is a no-go in SLC. MLB will be interesting to watch attendance if SLC gets the A's part time.
No. Not happening.
@@ChasingMajors just have the Salt Lake City Chargers play Thursday or Monday night games at home.
NHL Jets are a potential relocation from WPG to SLC as the Utah Polar Bears.
Was this first incarnation of the Jets that ultimately became the Coyotes? I thought the Atlanta version of the Jets had a new arena and was doing fine?
@@eyeofhorus99: All correct, but NHL Coyotes will most likely relocate from AZ to Houston & NHL Jets might look into relocation from WPG to SLC due to low attendances.
@@cjhan9816 Had no idea they’re having attendance issues in Winnipeg. If they to move to SLC, I’ll be catching a game when I go to Utah.
@@eyeofhorus99: Yes, WPG is the smallest population (700k / est) & pro-sports market of the NHL & Canada combine.
@@eyeofhorus99 They had a slow start at the gate. They've since sold out four games. The issue in Winnipeg is post-Covid inflation. The team sold out over 330 consecutive games and then Covid hit.
They want the whole world here. He's putting his hands in the cookie jar too far.
Come to Arizona
If the A's won't play in Oakland, then they can play in Salt Lake or be barnstorming team until they finally settle.
Not enough season ticket buyers.
Oakland for sure doesn't want the A's.
Incorrect.
@brodiebrazil it's been decades my guy, and nothing.
Name me a fan club of your local team. I know of two for the A's (the 68's and Last Dive Bar) and I live on the east coast.
Now the city of Oakland funding a stadium-- that's different.
@HHSGDFootballJPD fan clubs don't keep teams in Oakland. Hell money can't keep In & Out in Oakland.
@@ragiceanerI love how you people (Oakland haters) latch on to these stories and think that proves your point. The only reason the team is doing bad and leaving is because of their POS owner
If I was an owner, I would look at the impending ecological and environmental disaster that predicted to happen after the “great salt lake” of Salt Lake City finishes drying up in the next 10-20 years and stay tf away. All the toxic dust and fumes are going to make Salt Lake City pretty much unlivable
Salt Lake City population is 1,257,936. 1.2 million. Utah has terrible hockey registration.
The smallest US market in the NHL is Buffalo 1,125,637 million. New York has fantastic hockey registration.
You've got to be kidding me. I couldn't hate the United States anymore if I tried. Go play shoot someone, leave hockey to Canadians.
If you are going to go to a small market, go somewhere where they ACTUALLY follow hockey.
Like, al I ever hear about is CANADIAN MARKETS ARE TOO SMALL - meanwhile Gary Bettman wants to relocate to the second smallest US market in the NHL.
Quebec City would do better than Phoenix.
Know how I know? Winnipeg did better than Atlanta. Winnipeg made more money than Atlanta when they relocated in 2010. Winnipeg soldout every home game (41 games a year) from 2010 to 2020. Ten years straight of sellouts.
And Quebec City (839,311) is larger than Winnipeg (834,678).
Quebec City is the LAST major population center in Canada that doesn't have an NHL team...it's a joke.
I found do ANYTHING for Bettman to go away and leave the game to Canadians again.
Stop ruining the sport I LOVE.
SLC is the 29th largest media market in the US (2023) 2.7 million so the metro is not the measurement they go by.
Salt Lake has zero nightlife. It's right in the middle of mormonville, somewhere 20 somethings don't want to be. The NBA players that go there hate it.
And teams playing the A’s love Oakland so much they refuse to stay there. Also … nightlife? You’re not a serious person.
When was the last time you were in Utah dude, if ever? The 1980’s?
@bretthardman4903 Utah a couple of years. Salt Lake? Maybe five? It's a medium-sized city that can't hold a candle to larger metro areas in the USA, and it's nothing compared to Vegas, where I live.
My comment was based on a comment from a friend who lives in SL. He told me NBA players have voiced this complaint.
@@name-vi6fs 3.4 million people is not medium sized. Not counting those in Ogden and Provo. Plenty of fans to support a team. No where near the crime rate either. Alcohol laws have changed, and not all pro athletes only care about the nightlife like NBA players.
This whole alcohol/nightlife argument is dumb. It’s true, pro athletes will have a lot harder time getting arrested in SLC as they seem to do in Vegas … congrats. Who cares about “holding a candle” to Las Vegas anyway? Las Vegas sucks. It’s an artificial, grimy place filled with gross drug attics meandering around like zombies.
The Salt Lake City Mormons