Been watching a bunch of old sf2 matches and this one stands out a lot. Great Chun Li play against such an oppressive opponent, probably the best match I've seen so far.
Nuki did a really good job considering what he was going up against. The advantage was in Choi's favor match-up-wise, but there are times when Nuki made it look really even. 9:44 is probably the highlight for me; Nuki jumps over a Tiger Shot in this round at *just* the right time to perfectly avoid an anti-air sweep from Choi, then Nuki gets a max punish combo that turns the tables for him. Nuki even walks forward a very small distance before jumping so Chun-Li can be in range to make it all happen. The amount of prediction, reaction, adaptation, dexterity, awareness, and game knowledge that went into that single jump is so far beyond what it might look like at first glance.
@@pb879 it’s not that serious, this is barbershop talk. To use a Mike Watson line this was a Neo Geo version of the game. Why do you think Choi was compelled to apologize after the win. He didn’t apologize to Bas about CVS2.
In Super Turbo you can select the non-super version of characters. Sagat has one of the less useful supers, and his old version has a couple other buffs. If you see anyone playing Sagat in ST they are using the old version unless the tournament has banned him.
fun fact: the sagat wasnt even going to attend evo because his father was sick in the hospital. his dad convinced him to go, so he was under prepared. the fact that he won 2 different games under those circumstances is true skill in my opinion.
I liked the part where Choi did the low tiger to uppercut. Seriously though, Nuki is insanely skilled and so much more inventive and adapting. Choi without fireballs on the other hand.....
@@VMP_MBD Feels like Sagat is just spam Fire Ball time Upper Cut (WIN) It's an old game; her Crouching M-Punch in SF5 along with her Instant Air Legs really helps against Zoners like Sagat. (She can Slide or Leg Kick over/under Fireballs)
Japanese players have always refused to use O. Sagat. He's too OP and just boring IMAO. Too bad US players didn't follow suit. It was probably a joke to Japanese players back in the day, knowing that playing in US tournaments meant going up against a bunch of O. Sagats.
I run ST tournaments of my own and imo, O.Sagat isn't banned because he really doesn't need to be. He's super strong, sure, but I don't think he deserves to be banned
@@Mitjitsu That doesn't necessarily mean that you can't overcome that with another character. Banning an entire character from the meta is a decision that must be taken seriously, and saying that "a lack of spectacle" is a worthy reason for a ban will get you laughed at in the FGC
O. Sagat is annoyingly strong but not outright broken like Akuma is. I did hear that he was soft banned in Japan for a while, but I don't believe that rumor
![EVO 2009: Justin Wong [L] vs. Daigo Grand Finals SFIV FULL MATCH](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/YkNwnQzagbE/mqdefault.jpg)
Can’t get enough of old school street fighter games
Been watching a bunch of old sf2 matches and this one stands out a lot. Great Chun Li play against such an oppressive opponent, probably the best match I've seen so far.
Nuki did a really good job considering what he was going up against. The advantage was in Choi's favor match-up-wise, but there are times when Nuki made it look really even. 9:44 is probably the highlight for me; Nuki jumps over a Tiger Shot in this round at *just* the right time to perfectly avoid an anti-air sweep from Choi, then Nuki gets a max punish combo that turns the tables for him. Nuki even walks forward a very small distance before jumping so Chun-Li can be in range to make it all happen. The amount of prediction, reaction, adaptation, dexterity, awareness, and game knowledge that went into that single jump is so far beyond what it might look like at first glance.
The minute Choi won this he apologized to Nuki. He knew that it was BS and this wasn’t even the arcade version. Nuki brought up the input lags.
@@ramoncruz2453 excuses for both of you and your Japanese hero worship. The better player won that day. Please get D out of Japan's mouth
@@pb879 it’s not that serious, this is barbershop talk. To use a Mike Watson line this was a Neo Geo version of the game. Why do you think Choi was compelled to apologize after the win. He didn’t apologize to Bas about CVS2.
I was on the edge of my seat the whole time!
TIGER TIGER TIGER !
Dude spams Fireballs TAS, like a perfect AI. So the dude it's the real life TAS in term of execution and flawless timing.
Pretty much, you are not beating Choi in the fireball war. You have to do other stuff to win. Just look at his sf4 match against Daigo Evo 2014
Absolutely no one can be rooting for this Sagat.
Choi is one of America's best ST players, and we always play second banana to Japan. Problem is that it's Super Turbo, and Choi plays O. Sagat.
I honestly dislike zoners...
But like, old sagat feels like is just anti-game, not even anti-fun
that gyatt was inspirational.
John Choi makes the fireball game look automatic. Perfect sense of timing and mixing up speeds.
Exactly! When people talk about how he is cheap, they show that they don't know how hard keeping up the execution and mix ups are!
Thx for the upload. Great matches
1:35
Tiger! Tiger! Tiger! Tiger! Tiger! Tiger! Tiger! Tiger! Tiger! Tiger! Tiger! Tiger! Tiger! Tiger! Tiger! Tiger! Tiger! Tiger! Tiger uppercut! Tiger! Tiger! Tiger! Tiger! Tiger! Tiger! Tiger! Tiger!
Sagat in a nutshell.
you must be new here. people have plans against this since 1996.
Moments that don’t exist anymore in nowadays street fighter.... :-(
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Boomer
"It shouldn't work but, it does..."
Even if you completely master a game, you have to do dumb shit every now and then just to stay unpredictable.
It's a glitch in the game Chun-Li can do it so can he Honda and Vega
John is still at every final
Tiger shots are way overpowered
How come only Chun Li has the ability to build up super?
In Super Turbo you can select the non-super version of characters. Sagat has one of the less useful supers, and his old version has a couple other buffs. If you see anyone playing Sagat in ST they are using the old version unless the tournament has banned him.
Really no other comments wtf?Great match between 2 great players.
+dpieman92 1:47 No words indeed.
nobody play O Sagat in Japan. For a reason.
@@6Diego1Diego9 daigo does. So, and so many other here in Tokyo. Don't make such an ignorant comment without knowing the facts.
@@pb879 I think he means in tournament play. I’ve never seen Daigo play Old Sagat in an SBO, X-Mania, or an Evo.
@@ramoncruz2453 Yes, that's exactly what I mean. so tell @pb to take his ignant ass home to Tokyo
Chunli is far more skilled and at a disadvantaged
fun fact: the sagat wasnt even going to attend evo because his father was sick in the hospital. his dad convinced him to go, so he was under prepared. the fact that he won 2 different games under those circumstances is true skill in my opinion.
@@TipsyFGC i think ur referring to real life. quite interesting. thanks for the facts
Why he is not using tiger knee
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I liked the part where Choi did the low tiger to uppercut. Seriously though, Nuki is insanely skilled and so much more inventive and adapting. Choi without fireballs on the other hand.....
no one chucks plasma like John Choi
Сагат выглядит очень несбалансированным, чан ли приходится использовать весь арсенал против одного приема
Lore accurate 👌
Who's the commentator?
I know the louder guy is Seth Killian, no idea who the other commentator is tho
@@liam5moriarty I think the other guy is UltraDavid.
Screen control
Tiger Shot!
Proof that fireball spam rules in sf.
commentator what a great champion , and he use the most broken character of the game Osagat rofl
Chun had to be low tier in this game,
whole match up feels like she has to work so much harder...
She's actually top tier but O.Sagat is busted
@@VMP_MBD Feels like Sagat is just spam Fire Ball time Upper Cut (WIN)
It's an old game; her Crouching M-Punch in SF5 along with her Instant Air Legs really helps against Zoners like Sagat.
(She can Slide or Leg Kick over/under Fireballs)
chun li is top tier is just osagat that is broken
Japanese players have always refused to use O. Sagat. He's too OP and just boring IMAO. Too bad US players didn't follow suit. It was probably a joke to Japanese players back in the day, knowing that playing in US tournaments meant going up against a bunch of O. Sagats.
Excellent Players Choi 😁
ｓサガの分際でｗ
They might have forgotten that Daigo won 2 games in 03 and 04. hmmm
I think what they meant was Choi was the first American to do it.
@@ramoncruz2453 John was the first to win 2 Street fighter games at EVO. That's what they meant
Tiger
I don't know why O.Sagat is still allowed in tournaments.
I run ST tournaments of my own and imo, O.Sagat isn't banned because he really doesn't need to be. He's super strong, sure, but I don't think he deserves to be banned
@@khanage1344 Pinning opponents by spamming tiger shots doesn't exactly make for a good spectacle.
@@Mitjitsu That doesn't necessarily mean that you can't overcome that with another character. Banning an entire character from the meta is a decision that must be taken seriously, and saying that "a lack of spectacle" is a worthy reason for a ban will get you laughed at in the FGC
He's not banned for the same reason that RC isn't banned in CVS2 or Blanka electric ball with RC. Yes it's very strong but not enough to ban it IMO.
O. Sagat is annoyingly strong but not outright broken like Akuma is. I did hear that he was soft banned in Japan for a while, but I don't believe that rumor
Sagat Petchyindee wins!
Sagat was broken like ryu. John choi always was using broken tiers.
Thigh gir! 100x
Silly