Hello! Thank you, thank you, thank you again for being so generous!!! I appreciate it so much!!! I'm glad you liked the video!!! Oh, and very good joke, LOL!
Back in the 1970's,several transit agencies,were installing water bumpers,so that low speed collisions,would be mitigated! Toronto also installed them on their PCC'S! A bit of forgotten lore! In today's climate,there would be any number of Pickup,and SUV's that could use that Icarus bumper setup,as many deaths,wouldn't happen! Thank you,Jeff,for that side excursion, into Hungary! Thank you 😇 😊!"
Hello! Oh yes, I almost forgot about those water-filled bumpers, especially on the Toronto PCC streetcars! Glad you liked the video! Thanks very much for watching!!
@JeffreyOrnstein Jeff,almost forgot,but the original Eagles(Trailways),were built in Germany[Kassborer?],and later buses,were built in Belgium! So the Buffalo buses,were closer to Hungary,than met the eye! That Icarus bus,was close to the Eagle 15,which was a 2 axle version,and there were some produced for the European tour companies! Anyway,an additional information that might be useful! Thank you 😇 😊!
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Many 1980s US model cars had shock-absorbing bumpers. The had actual shock absorbers front and rear.
I saw this bus along with the short description in "Za Rulem" magazine, in my late childhood, and the only additional information I got on it ever - is from this video. Amazing research, cudos to the author.
Thanks for this one, Jeffrey. Not a vehicle I'd encountered previously, the design concept of the high floor was known in Western Europe too, not only was the Eagle 03 built in Belgium, but many western European makers offered higher floor coaches from the early 1970s and by 1976 even Britain had got there, with the Plaxton Viewmaster. The bumper is an amazing and doubtless expensive piece of technology, I am familiar with the Firestone /NTSB HELP front bumper, as a number of British operators tried it in the 1980s. but Ikarus seems to have gone even further.
Hello Stephen! Thanks for the additional info, especially about the bumpers! As someone else mentioned, another safety variation was water-filled bumpers that were used on a few North American transit systems, most notably on Toronto's PCC trolleys. I wonder if that would have had similar results in a crash. Thanks very much for watching again!!
Certainly interesting and well equipped. While these are great buses as far as historical perspective goes, the underfloor engine design is a dealbreaker for me. I know others out there love those but to me the engine is better in the rear. Well done Jeffery.
Ikarus seems to have had a near-monopoly on buses within the Warsaw Pact with even the USSR itself importing them (something they didn't do with other vehicles) in exchange for Hungary having had no domestic passenger-car production (they imported cars from all over the Eastern Bloc and even more western models than anyone else in COMECON including the VW Type 3 used in the 270's bumper demonstrations).
Hiiiiiii.... Jeffrey, Another fantastic well researched and edited video full of content and interesting love those oversized bumpers think some buses in the UK copied that idea
That is a great looking coach, too bad it didn't get past the prototype level,it looked like it could have made a great mark on the industry, its surprising that it wasn't picked up by another country in one way or another for its design features, thanks for bringing us along
Some busses live on in their offspring. Steel is not necessary for a roll cage. The best qualities of this Icarus live on in the MCI. Beautiful seats, driver lower. I was in one when a car slammed into it's side and I was neatly above the car as it lost the skirmish, but dinged up all the suitcase bays. It just lacked that bathroom. Trivia: If you drive a bus not for profit, or for family business, you don't need a special license. The R.V. law.
Hi Jeffrey, I agree with the idea of the vehicle looking like the Buffalo. I also think that it looks very similar to the Pegaso Z-403 and the Van Hool coach bodies of time( panoramic windows) and the inclusion of the air con pod.
Hello! Oh yes, the Pegaso Z-403 Monocasco was a really awesome bus! Maybe I'll do a video on that one in the future! Thanks very much for watching again!!
thanks for introducing this wonderful Ikaraus 270, truly ahead of it's time. Neoplan had a similar looking bus albeit withought the enhanced bumper, Not sure if it was the Cityliner N116 or N128 from the 1970s.
Hello! I'm so glad you found this video interesting!! Yes, there is some elements in common to the later Cityliner N116! Thanks very much for watching again!!!
I quite like the look of the Ikarus 270, and as Jeffrey suggests, without knowing or paying close attention, one would think of it as a North American product. Another masterpiece from Mr O.
They put a lot of thought into it. It definitely doesn’t look like it’s from the early 70s styling wise, particularly the bumper and headlight arrangement. A pity it didn’t enter production.
Hi, Thanks for this video. Just one thing I want to mention. The designer's name is László Finta not Lászlo Fintá. His wife, Anna László was the chief engineer of the Ikarus 286. An articulated bus that eas made for the US maket at the late 70's. The demonstrator bus was driven by Anna. It's an interesting story you may introduce perhaps... Just google this: The Myth of the Superior Hungarian Technology Vol. II. - Ikarus Conquers North America
Hello! Thanks for the info....sorry for the wrong placement of the accents...English doesn't have much of that so, it's a bit confusing, and my Hungarian is admittedly not the best, LOL! The 286 story is definitely an interesting one, maybe I'll do a future video on that bus! Thanks very much for watching!!
It looks more like a long distance coach than a “Bus”! Obviously, a concept vehicle designed to be an example of what they could do. Not a serious Mass Transit Vehicle. But very cool concept for an East European Soviet company.
LOL, it's my "Americanism" coming through...we often don't differentiate between bus and coach in casual speaking, but maybe I should have been more aware of that. Thanks very much for watching!!
Never heard of the 270. Have to give credit to the Hungarian engineers. It reminds me of the later Prevost buses you can still find for sale today. Actually you can find pictures and proof of the type 250 Ikarus being exported to America. Ofc they had to do a lot of modifications to meet the US standards at the time.
The problem was that there were no rock or country bands touring so this sort of bus was not wanted in those socialist nations where travelling was frowned upon- or even prohibited. I knew a man who as a student went to the Soviet Union in 1965 and was arrested "for leaving Leningrad without permission." The good news was they didn't need him to swap for some big spy at the time- so he was released- a much chastened young man.
Can you make a clip about bus manufacturers from the former Yugoslavia? Ikarbus - Zemun (ex Ikarus), FAS 11.Oktomvri "Sanos" - Skopje, Neobus - Novi Sad (ex Autokaroserija), TAZ - Zagreb, Avtomontaža - Ljubljana, TAM - Maribor, FAP - Priboj.
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Should have put in a kitchen, as after all... it was...Hungry
Hello! Thank you, thank you, thank you again for being so generous!!! I appreciate it so much!!! I'm glad you liked the video!!! Oh, and very good joke, LOL!
@@JTA1961 Hungarians hate these jokes
@dudi0042 food for thought.
@@JTA1961 huh? What do you mean about that
OH MY GOD. AN MERICAN WHO KNOWS HUNGARY AND IKARUS.
I subscribed. Thank you the video. Greetings from Hungary.
Hello! Yes, Ikarus is quite interesting to this American, LOL. Maybe more Ikarus videos soon! Thanks very much for watching and for subscribing!!
Back in the 1970's,several transit agencies,were installing water bumpers,so that low speed collisions,would be mitigated! Toronto also installed them on their PCC'S! A bit of forgotten lore! In today's climate,there would be any number of Pickup,and SUV's that could use that Icarus bumper setup,as many deaths,wouldn't happen! Thank you,Jeff,for that side excursion, into Hungary! Thank you 😇 😊!"
Hello! Oh yes, I almost forgot about those water-filled bumpers, especially on the Toronto PCC streetcars! Glad you liked the video! Thanks very much for watching!!
@JeffreyOrnstein Jeff,almost forgot,but the original Eagles(Trailways),were built in Germany[Kassborer?],and later buses,were built in Belgium! So the Buffalo buses,were closer to Hungary,than met the eye! That Icarus bus,was close to the Eagle 15,which was a 2 axle version,and there were some produced for the European tour companies! Anyway,an additional information that might be useful! Thank you 😇 😊!
Many 1980s US model cars had shock-absorbing bumpers. The had actual shock absorbers front and rear.
Another brilliant video, Jeffrey! Thank you!
Glad you found the video interesting! Thanks very much for watching again!!
I saw this bus along with the short description in "Za Rulem" magazine, in my late childhood, and the only additional information I got on it ever - is from this video. Amazing research, cudos to the author.
Hello! I'm very glad you liked the video and found it interesting!!! Thanks very much for watching!!
Love your videos, Jeffrey. Keep up the good work. Thank you 👌
Hello! Very happy you found the video interesting!! Thanks very much for watching again!!
Thanks for this one, Jeffrey. Not a vehicle I'd encountered previously, the design concept of the high floor was known in Western Europe too, not only was the Eagle 03 built in Belgium, but many western European makers offered higher floor coaches from the early 1970s and by 1976 even Britain had got there, with the Plaxton Viewmaster. The bumper is an amazing and doubtless expensive piece of technology, I am familiar with the Firestone /NTSB HELP front bumper, as a number of British operators tried it in the 1980s. but Ikarus seems to have gone even further.
Hello Stephen! Thanks for the additional info, especially about the bumpers! As someone else mentioned, another safety variation was water-filled bumpers that were used on a few North American transit systems, most notably on Toronto's PCC trolleys. I wonder if that would have had similar results in a crash. Thanks very much for watching again!!
Thanks for another Ikarus video, very nice!
Hello! Very glad you found the video interesting!! Thanks very much for watching!!
Interesting video Jeffrey, that's a very modern looking vehicle even by today's standard
Cheers Russ
Hello Russ! Very glad you found the video interesting! Thanks very much for watching again!!
Certainly interesting and well equipped. While these are great buses as far as historical perspective goes, the underfloor engine design is a dealbreaker for me. I know others out there love those but to me the engine is better in the rear. Well done Jeffery.
Hello! Very glad you liked the video! Yes, there's many opinions on the engine placements! Thanks very much for watching again!!
Ikarus seems to have had a near-monopoly on buses within the Warsaw Pact with even the USSR itself importing them (something they didn't do with other vehicles) in exchange for Hungary having had no domestic passenger-car production (they imported cars from all over the Eastern Bloc and even more western models than anyone else in COMECON including the VW Type 3 used in the 270's bumper demonstrations).
Hiiiiiii.... Jeffrey, Another fantastic well researched and edited video full of content and interesting love those oversized bumpers think some buses in the UK copied that idea
Hello!!! Glad you liked the video and thank you for the nice words! Thanks very much for watching!!
That is a great looking coach, too bad it didn't get past the prototype level,it looked like it could have made a great mark on the industry, its surprising that it wasn't picked up by another country in one way or another for its design features, thanks for bringing us along
Hello! Yes, it was a very interesting bus, but I guess it was too costly for its place and time. Thanks very much for watching again!!
Ikarus build a lot of Buses in the 200-Series Models like the 211, 220 (Prototype), 222, 260 (Right-Hand Drive), 270, Ikarus 281 (Right-Hand Drive)
Yes, they built a lot of very interesting buses! Thanks very much for watching!!
Thank's from Germany!
Hello! Glad you liked the video and thanks very much for watching from Germany!!!
Thanks again Jeffrey
Glad you found the video interesting! Thanks very much for watching again!!
Amazing Jeffrey as always ❤❤❤
Very glad you liked the video! Thanks very much for watching again!!
Some busses live on in their offspring. Steel is not necessary for a roll cage. The best qualities of this Icarus live on in the MCI. Beautiful seats, driver lower. I was in one when a car slammed into it's side and I was neatly above the car as it lost the skirmish, but dinged up all the suitcase bays. It just lacked that bathroom. Trivia: If you drive a bus not for profit, or for family business, you don't need a special license. The R.V. law.
Hello! Very interesting!! Good thing you didn't get hurt in the MCI collision!! Didn't know about the RV law! Thanks very much for watching again!!
Hi Jeffrey, I agree with the idea of the vehicle looking like the Buffalo. I also think that it looks very similar to the Pegaso Z-403 and the Van Hool coach bodies of time( panoramic windows) and the inclusion of the air con pod.
Hello! Oh yes, the Pegaso Z-403 Monocasco was a really awesome bus! Maybe I'll do a video on that one in the future! Thanks very much for watching again!!
thanks for introducing this wonderful Ikaraus 270, truly ahead of it's time. Neoplan had a similar looking bus albeit withought the enhanced bumper, Not sure if it was the Cityliner N116 or N128 from the 1970s.
Hello! I'm so glad you found this video interesting!! Yes, there is some elements in common to the later Cityliner N116! Thanks very much for watching again!!!
Really liked this bus...And that gold 300 is such a machine. great video thanks
Hello! I'm very glad you liked the bus and the video!!! Yes, that 300 is quite impressive! Thanks very much for watching!!!
I quite like the look of the Ikarus 270, and as Jeffrey suggests, without knowing or paying close attention, one would think of it as a North American product. Another masterpiece from Mr O.
Hello Melanie! Thank you so much for the nice words about the video - I'm very glad you found it interesting!! Thanks very much for watching!!!
They put a lot of thought into it. It definitely doesn’t look like it’s from the early 70s styling wise, particularly the bumper and headlight arrangement.
A pity it didn’t enter production.
Yes, the design was definitely ahead of its time! Thanks very much for watching again!!
This guy is clearly a terminator
He never blinks
Then I'm sure there are much better videos out there for you to watch if you don't like mine...
Hi,
Thanks for this video. Just one thing I want to mention. The designer's name is László Finta not Lászlo Fintá. His wife, Anna László was the chief engineer of the Ikarus 286. An articulated bus that eas made for the US maket at the late 70's. The demonstrator bus was driven by Anna. It's an interesting story you may introduce perhaps... Just google this: The Myth of the Superior Hungarian Technology Vol. II. - Ikarus Conquers North America
Hello! Thanks for the info....sorry for the wrong placement of the accents...English doesn't have much of that so, it's a bit confusing, and my Hungarian is admittedly not the best, LOL! The 286 story is definitely an interesting one, maybe I'll do a future video on that bus! Thanks very much for watching!!
It looks more like a long distance coach than a “Bus”! Obviously, a concept vehicle designed to be an example of what they could do. Not a serious Mass Transit Vehicle. But very cool concept for an East European Soviet company.
LOL, it's my "Americanism" coming through...we often don't differentiate between bus and coach in casual speaking, but maybe I should have been more aware of that. Thanks very much for watching!!
Should've told more about it's creators and the aftermath.
Otherwise, nice video keep it up.
Ok. Thanks very much for watching!!
Never heard of the 270. Have to give credit to the Hungarian engineers. It reminds me of the later Prevost buses you can still find for sale today. Actually you can find pictures and proof of the type 250 Ikarus being exported to America. Ofc they had to do a lot of modifications to meet the US standards at the time.
Yes, the Hungarian engineers did a good job with this and lots of other buses! Thanks very much for watching!!
Beautiful bus. A shame it was never made in quantity. Would have been ideal for long-distance tours.
Yes, it was quite an attractive vehicle! Thanks very much for watching again!!
Were closing toby's line with this one🗣
I know it's a concept but it looks like it was styled on an Etch-a-Sketch and the designer used a shoebox and empty cigarette packets for the mock up.
LOL, I know what you mean...one-of-a-kinds usually end up looking like that! Thanks very much for watching!!
I don't know where you're finding these Iron Curtain busses, but I want more!
Hello! Very happy you liked the video...hopefully more "Iron Curtain" bus videos to come! Thanks very much for watching again!!
The problem was that there were no rock or country bands touring so this sort of bus was not wanted in those socialist nations where travelling was frowned upon- or even prohibited. I knew a man who as a student went to the Soviet Union in 1965 and was arrested "for leaving Leningrad without permission." The good news was they didn't need him to swap for some big spy at the time- so he was released- a much chastened young man.
Hello! Interesting analysis of why these types of buses didn't succeed! Thanks very much for watching again!!
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Very glad you liked the video!!! Thanks very much for watching again!!!
Another great video Jeffrey,it amazes me we’re you find out about these buses 👍👍🇦🇺
Hello David! Very glad you liked this video of this one-of-a-kind bus! Thanks very much for watching!!
The Comecon killed many innovative designs.
Yes, they did, unfortunately! Thanks very much for watching!!
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Thanks very much for being #1 and for watching!!!!
Glory to socialist auto bus 🚌
LOL, yes, indeed! Thanks very much for watching!!
Can you make a clip about bus manufacturers from the former Yugoslavia?
Ikarbus - Zemun (ex Ikarus),
FAS 11.Oktomvri "Sanos" - Skopje, Neobus - Novi Sad (ex Autokaroserija),
TAZ - Zagreb,
Avtomontaža - Ljubljana,
TAM - Maribor,
FAP - Priboj.
Hello! I will look into Yugoslavian buses - hopefull there's good info out there on those bus manufacturers! Thanks very much for watching!!!
Who bodied Belgrade’s Leyland Worldmasters? Any in that list?
@@jamesfrench7299Ikarbus - Zemun (ex Ikarus) for GSP Beograd and Neobus - Novi Sad (ex Autokaroserija) for JGSP Skoplje
@@jamesfrench7299Ikarbus - Zemun (ex Ikarus) for GSP Beograd and Neobus - Novi Sad (ex Autokaroserija) for JSP Skoplje.
@@jamesfrench7299 Ikarbus-Zemun (ex Ikarus)