Acrylic Gouache Versus Traditional Gouache

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  • @onetruetroy
    @onetruetroy 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Terrific video that succinctly shows the pros and cons. I love traditional gouache because it’s vibrant and dynamic. I have more control with gouache than watercolors and can do a bit of blending and streaking on the canvas instead of on the palette. One excellent quality is laying down gouache and add some glazing with watercolors.

    • @owingsart
      @owingsart  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thanks for the kind comments and the good tips. I use gouache the same way and glaze with transparent watercolors. Learned much of what I know about Gouache from James Gurney.

  • @YassDesignStudio
    @YassDesignStudio ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thank you for explaining this so well, to the point and not making the video so long. I was looking for straight answer on the difference between these 2 medium and you nailed it. Thanks.,

    • @owingsart
      @owingsart  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@YassDesignStudio Sure thing.

  • @evilsdexter5261
    @evilsdexter5261 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    you can get some acrylic binder and mix a bit of it with traditional gouache, it works nice, and depending on the amount of binder (and water that you already had in the gouache), it might be fully or partially sealed when it dries

    • @owingsart
      @owingsart  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Good hack.

    • @vincentmonet6172
      @vincentmonet6172 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      “Lascaux resoluble medium” is what I use to do the above hack. Also mixes well (and instantly, dependent on the pigment) with straight pigment powder.

  • @bobbibrady9649
    @bobbibrady9649 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Very informative and short. I love that and the painting you did.

    • @owingsart
      @owingsart  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Bobbi.

  • @EveBolt
    @EveBolt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +111

    They should've named it matte acrylic rather than acrylic gouache, it would've spared so many headaches XD

    • @owingsart
      @owingsart  3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Agreed.

    • @Jennifer-wr9si
      @Jennifer-wr9si 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      I thought so too until I saw a Jerry's Artarama video taking down Liquitex's 'acrylic gouache' - unlike other media, the formulation of acrylic gouache *really* varies brand by brand which is why it's such a confusing medium.

    • @LynnePriceStudio
      @LynnePriceStudio 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Holbein makes a mat acrylic also.

    • @Anonymoi
      @Anonymoi ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I also thought this until I tried Holbein Acryla Gouache. I agree with other commenters that a.) acrylic gouache formulations vary, and b.) Holbein actually offers a matte acrylic paint too, which is different from their acryla gouache. I was amazed at how the Holbein acryla gouache handles. It truly handles like traditional gouache, but, as mentioned in this video, it is fixed when dry, and it also won’t be prone to cracking if used thickly. But it is amazing just how smooth it is and how much you can water it down into a wash and still have even distribution of pigment (at least with non-granulating pigments) and there is no streakiness, no tackiness as it’s drying.

    • @MominaMuhammad-l4b
      @MominaMuhammad-l4b ปีที่แล้ว

      Can we pour Holbein acryla gouache in a palette and reuse it ? @@Anonymoi

  • @MDCampbell
    @MDCampbell 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    An excellent discussion, Marty. Like you said, years ago, these options just weren't available. I love the idea of acrylic gouache, especially in how permanent it becomes; however, I'm a traditionalist and I have always loved the way I could go back into a gouache sketch or painting and it will still reactivate days or even weeks later. Maybe not a lot, but enough that I can get some effects from the bottom layers. Thank you for this one! Great job and the painting is signature! ~ Mark

    • @owingsart
      @owingsart  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi Mark - Sorry it's taken me a while to reply to your message here. I agree with you that it's nice to be able to reactive the wc or gouache, but if I don't want to it's nice to have options. Hope you are staying well my friend. - My friend.

  • @Donnies_lil_ding_ding
    @Donnies_lil_ding_ding ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Spent 3 months now experimenting making my own paints. Main difference I’ve found? Acrylic is bound with acrylic polymer. Usually lab made, and waterproof. Gouache is basically watercolor with chalk and bound with gum arabic, which is water soluble.

    • @BigCroca
      @BigCroca ปีที่แล้ว +1

      well chemically speaking yeah ig you're right. gouache is opaque watercolor, acrylic is a plastic chemical abomination lol.

    • @owingsart
      @owingsart  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yep.

    • @Donnies_lil_ding_ding
      @Donnies_lil_ding_ding 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@owingsart you know, I’ve learned SO much more since I commented this. Now I’m back reading it again, and it’s like I’m seeing myself explaining how water is wet like I just invented relativity. And if I had to reply to my own comment? “Yep.” That’s really the only polite thing to say here. Lol. Thank you for being nice to me. 😂

  • @arcuda2001
    @arcuda2001 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    norakag, here.. i think the companys' labeling it acryla gouache is about marketing .. it can be confusing , for sure.. i bought a few tubes of the acryla gouache, and just use them very thinned out ( as a wash), if i want to tone the paper , without worrying if the color will lift when i paint on top of it .. and yes, we have soooo many options these days.. it can be sensory overload for sure lol but what a nice " problem" to have 😬😬thanks, Marty !! Norakag 😃

    • @owingsart
      @owingsart  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I totally agree!

  • @ZadenZane
    @ZadenZane 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    3:01 you say acrylic gouache doesn't crack but I've found that Turner acrylic gouache does crack if you spread it on too thick and with too dry a brush. I use Holbein, Turner and Liquitex acrylic gouaches. The Japanese paints (Turner and Holbein) are amazingly smooth but I have issues with some of their pigment choices: PY3, PO13, etc. These are craft paint favourites, I expect better from professional brands!

    • @owingsart
      @owingsart  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Correct. If you trowel paint on to a surface it will almost always crack. Try it a little thinner next time. It’s okay to expect more. You are however talking about 2 pigments in a line with more than 100 colors I believe. Also, things can vary slightly from batch to batch, even with the worlds more consistent paints, like Schmincke. In this case though, I think both Turner and Holbein are excellent choices overall. If you want better you’ll almost always spend more.

    • @ZadenZane
      @ZadenZane 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@owingsart the one that cracked was Turner Acrylic Gouache in a certain shade of green. The main reason it cracked seems to be that it got too dry, you have to keep dipping the brush in water. It's the one paint I have that says it needs dilution (2 parts paint to one of water). By the way some people claim that acrylic gouache is just matte acrylic paint, but it isn't, at least Turner and Holbein's versions aren't. I managed to tear a section of an unvarnished painting just by wiping it, this would never happen with normal acrylic paint which is quite tough.

    • @owingsart
      @owingsart  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@ZadenZane Yes, you're right again about Holbein and Turner, at least that is my understanding as well. They aren't just matte acrylic paints but specifically developed as gouache. I've never actually seen where a company tells you to, "dilute", the paint, but 2 parts paint and 1 part water would make it thicker not thinner, correct? At any rate they make solid paints and I love that Holbein invests in creating better and different paints.

  • @rainbowwarpig3536
    @rainbowwarpig3536 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Best short explanation video 🎉

    • @owingsart
      @owingsart  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Glad it was helpful!

  • @heidicook2395
    @heidicook2395 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for showing the fifference.

  • @PrincessofKeys
    @PrincessofKeys ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Now Im wondering if I should get regular gouache or acrylic gouache for painting faceups on dolls.
    The thing that gets me is the fast drying which I figured you can use a blending medium for acrylic gouache so it doesn't dry too fast. As long as the opaque is still there it's mostly what Im looking for and of course fixing any mistakes I'll make.

    • @owingsart
      @owingsart  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I have done some blending and I don't remember off hand if that helped, but you sort of pick your poison with these depending on the effect or outcome you want. Good luck!

  • @AnnieThyme
    @AnnieThyme 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thanks for the explainer Marty and I loved the painting you were doing to demonstrate, I wish I was somewhere with a view of trees like that right now!
    Have a good week! :)

    • @owingsart
      @owingsart  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey thanks a ton Annie. Much appreciated. Are in the city?

  • @vnnvideo9023
    @vnnvideo9023 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Beautiful colors!

  • @flychk1229
    @flychk1229 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks Marty! Always informative 👍

  • @mageetu
    @mageetu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you greatly! I just got the twelve-tube set of the 107 Holbein at a good discount. I look forward to learning to use it as well as experimenting with the handful of hacks I've seen mentioned around YT lately. Maybe as part of a mixed media collage. Should be fun for me seeing how it goes.

    • @owingsart
      @owingsart  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You definitely scored. How did your collage come out?

  • @MichaelColinVoigt100
    @MichaelColinVoigt100 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Can you share a good brand for 'traditional' Gouache?

  • @kp9894
    @kp9894 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wanna ask if these acrylic gouache can be a great refill for posca pens? I mean the ink of posca markers are matte, despite being acrylic-based...

    • @owingsart
      @owingsart  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not sure.

  • @lilyhong1220
    @lilyhong1220 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Does acrylic gouache dry 3D like acrylic paintings do, or like gouache paintings that are flat. I know it's matte, but when you run your finger over is it flat like gouache or a bit bumpy like acrylic?

    • @owingsart
      @owingsart  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They can be used like that get a slight impasto look if you use larger amounts and it's thick, however you may want to try Casein for that.

  • @capbin146
    @capbin146 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Any idea how long does acrylic gouache stay open once out the tube,traditional gouache can rewet and normal acrylic hardens quite quickly apart from the longer lasting ones like interactive?

  • @jessbutterfly1934
    @jessbutterfly1934 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Marty what’s the difference between acrylic gouche and acrylic paint then?

    • @lunakat5763
      @lunakat5763 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Watch the video he explains everything.

  • @sabinelloyd8532
    @sabinelloyd8532 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very informative thank you.

  • @recoveringsoul755
    @recoveringsoul755 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Since it dries like plastic, same as regular acrylic paint, it doesn't seem like it would be a good thing to use as an underpainting or page preparation before using watercolor or regular gouache. Wouldn't the water based medium just not stick to the plastic paint? Unlike Cassein which seems to work pretty well for James Gurney anyway.

  • @lesleykuhn8345
    @lesleykuhn8345 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How do you know which is which by looking at your tubes? Acrylic vs Traditional?

    • @dannychen1064
      @dannychen1064 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      usually it's stated on the tubes

    • @recoveringsoul755
      @recoveringsoul755 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      also seems like the tube size is much larger for the new stuff, maybe because you need to/or can use more paint for the textures and stuff

  • @MadebyDawn23
    @MadebyDawn23 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey Marty, thanks for your video. I'm not really a gouache user. I have the arrtx gouache and daler rowney aquafine. What are your thoughts on Himi or arrtx gouache

    • @owingsart
      @owingsart  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi there Dawn - I haven't used either one of those brands, but I think the Daler Rowney would be a student grade. Worth giving them a try thought.

  • @Spafon1
    @Spafon1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Acryla is lovely, but it's not cheap (I knowTurner do one which is cheaper. Not sure if quality is as high as the Holbein). It'd be useful to see you do a comparison between Acryla gouache and plain old acrylics perhaps with a matt medium.

    • @owingsart
      @owingsart  3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Honestly never use acrylics and although I never say never, I don't have any plans to use acrylic in the near future. It's taken me like 30 years to get half decent at a single medium.

    • @LynnePriceStudio
      @LynnePriceStudio 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Turner gouache is mostly fugitive.

  • @Shannonishere
    @Shannonishere 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great comparison Marty! 😊

    • @owingsart
      @owingsart  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks Shannon. Hope you are doing great my friend.

    • @Shannonishere
      @Shannonishere 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@owingsart I am Marty! Hope you’re doing okay. 😊

  • @deeman524
    @deeman524 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for this, very helpful

    • @owingsart
      @owingsart  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you!

  • @serenityjewel
    @serenityjewel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I thought acrylic gouache was just matte acrylic paint and gouache was just thick watercolor paint, like watercolor straight out the tube. That's not right?

    • @owingsart
      @owingsart  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      These are slightly different from standard acrylic paints.

  • @luciferbroke7875
    @luciferbroke7875 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    so whats the difference between acrylic and acrylic gouache?

    • @owingsart
      @owingsart  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Acrylic paint will not be as flat or velvety as gouache. I'm not an acrylic painter, so probably best to check the internet on this, but I think my statement is fairly accurate.

  • @lordoftheflings
    @lordoftheflings 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    is acrylic gouache just regular acrylic paint in a small tube?

    • @owingsart
      @owingsart  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ha! No, the whole make up of this paint is different. It might be accurate to say that it's acrylic paint that dries flat and opaque and behaves in almost every respect the same as traditional gouache, except that it can't be re-activated.

  • @ShahanoorMamun
    @ShahanoorMamun 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good share 👍

  • @joannecoulton4011
    @joannecoulton4011 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Cool

    • @owingsart
      @owingsart  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks!

  • @bonnierosendale
    @bonnierosendale 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    So, Marty...what's the difference between "acrylic gouache" and regular acrylic paint?

    • @owingsart
      @owingsart  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Bonnie - You’ll have to watch the video! 😀

    • @cindijennings2285
      @cindijennings2285 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Acrylic gouache is essentially acrylic paint with a matte finish.

    • @cindijennings2285
      @cindijennings2285 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bonnie, acrylic gouache is essentially acrylic paint with a matte finish.

  • @barefacedquestions
    @barefacedquestions 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Is there anything to watch out for when discarding water with acrylic gouache? I know that it's a concern with acrylic because dumping acrylic water down the drain is bad for the environment AFAIK

    • @owingsart
      @owingsart  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I am careful to recycle my paint at the drop off center for the most part.

  • @essietangle9931
    @essietangle9931 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks Marty

    • @owingsart
      @owingsart  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Have ya'll recovered from the snow storm yet?

  • @KatMa664
    @KatMa664 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The only reason I use gouache instead of acrylic is because I can clean my brushes easily and if I’m outside and if they dry out, I don’t worry they’ll be destroyed. So why would I use acrylic gouache instead of acrylic?

    • @owingsart
      @owingsart  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It cleans up exactly like regular gouache.

  • @LynnePriceStudio
    @LynnePriceStudio 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Holbein makes a mat acrylic in addition to acrylic gouache.

    • @owingsart
      @owingsart  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Good to know that.

  • @ArtandDiamondsWithEskies
    @ArtandDiamondsWithEskies 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It just seems to be a matte acrylic.

    • @owingsart
      @owingsart  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Mostly, but it just it seems to reactivate if you scrub enough,

  • @bicagonzalez3515
    @bicagonzalez3515 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

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  • @JockScrapDraws
    @JockScrapDraws 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    FIRST YASS lol

  • @bicagonzalez3515
    @bicagonzalez3515 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Traducir a español siempre
    Traducit

  • @katsmith8263
    @katsmith8263 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So it's just acrylic paint😅😅😅😅

    • @owingsart
      @owingsart  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not really because it dries with a very pronounced matte finish and it can be re-wet if you soak it enough. Similar properties, but definitely not the same.