Efstathios Dimopo.. The cycladic sculpture also inspired the Ligurians of the third millenium AD: they sculpted gigantic steles with very similar morphology as the cycladian statuettes.About 30 exemplars can be stauned at in a new museum in the liguric Appenine. They are much better inspired than the works of Modigliani and the Brancusi.
THE TRUTH IS THAT DOLE GOULANDRE BY THOSE FIGURINES BY Brancusi and they PROPAGADED THAT THERE WERE OTHER CIVILIZATION IN GREECE BEFORE GREEK CIVILIZATION. COLIN RENFREW ARE BUILDING FAKE ZIGGURAT ON KEROS AND HE PROPAGADE THE ANATOLIAN THEORY. Christos Doumas ADMITTED THAT GOULANDRE BROUGHT many many figurines in Greece .
Really fascinating. I imagine that time and place to be a rather nice place to live. Perfect climate, still enough forests to keep the islands with enough ground water. Seemingly mostly peaceful too.
I wouldn't say that it was a perfect climate, lol. I love going to the beach in the summer, but I also love my cool temps in spring and fall, and snow in the winter.
2800bc The marble figurines were painted with red cinnabar from southern spain, They didn't use pumice stone to rub down the marble it's to soft , they had green emery sand from Naxos. 8 tonnes a year are still being exported, go look it up.
These islands look so dry, at least nowadays, that it’s hard to imagine them supporting more than tiny populations. Perhaps, as on many other dry Greek islands, they collect winter rainwater in cisterns and reservoirs. There is likely also a small freshwater lens of groundwater on each larger island, but over-pumping this resource quickly leads to saltwater intrusion.
Thank you for your video. I have many times heard that some of the big cycladic islands like Naxos and Paros had forests on them during the Early Cycladic period. I also heard about the hunting of wild boar and deer on some of these islands. But I have never been able to find sources for this and I was hoping maybe you could tell me if you have any as I would love to see them. Thank you very much!
I'm glad you enjoyed the video! There are many findings that indicate the presence of large forests and the wild animals in the largest of the Cycladic islands, especially Naxos. Many depictions of animal hunting are found in the island, which date from the Early Cycladic period all the way to the Classical period. As for the forests, geoarchaeologists have proven their existence on many regions that are now significantly less forested, like the region of Anatolia, Crete, and the Cycladic islands.
Very nicely told but I have to strongly disagree re. lack of sails. I see why you claim that based on the drawings but overall Mediterranean peoples (and by extension Atlantic Europeans) had been at the avantguard of sailing since at least the Cardium Pottery Neolithic. You can't explain their specifically coastal, much less the settlement of distant islands like Corsica, Sardinia or the Balearic islands with mere rowing tech. Such sail and related "crane" tech would also be useful later on to build the megaliths. I said "at least" because it's apparent that the older colonization of Cyprus or the crossing of the Aegean by the Cardium precursors arrived from Asia Minor probably also required of sails. Anyway, you're talking of the Bronze Age, centuries after South Iberian trade with Syria (ivory specifically) is well documented, the time when the Sherden or Nuraghic Sardinians were sailing also all the way from Iberia to Egypt and Palestine, the time when the early (Indoeuropean) Greeks were invading Greece (first) and then other lands with their sailing vessels, attested not just in the epic of Troy or the Egyptian bas-reliefs about the Sea Peoples (incl. those Greeks or Ekwesh/Denesh) but even in the much older legend of Theseus, whose color of sails unfolds the final payback tragedy.
Very interesting information. To be honest I was not well aware about the subject of sails myself and I did make the assumption based on the fact that there weren't any depictions of sails in the Cycladic art. You are indeed right, there is evidence of ships with sails at that time as they are depicted in the art of Predynastic Egypt. Now, regarding the Iliad and the Egyptian reliefs of the Sea Peoples, both of these have to do with the late Bronze Age and the Bronze Age collapse, hundreds of years after the fading of the Cycladic culture, which is the topic of the video. There's no denying that the Mycenaeans had sea vessels with sails. I am curious about what you're saying in regards to the colonization of Cyprus, which I believe happened during the 9th millenium B.C. Do you think that the Mediterranean people were that advanced at sailing back then? If this is true, then it is really fascinating.
@@historicaladventurevideos - We can't be sure about all the details, maybe Cyprus was originally settled by rowed boats... but what about Australia, where a crossing of 80 km was necessary and was settled much much earlier? You can only row so far, not very far typically, in order to actually travel by sea, sails are absolutely needed. No wonder Mediterranean/European sailing has been only second to SE Asian/Oceanian one, we were very delayed by comparison. Anyway, the settling of Cyprus probably required sails but also Cyprus is close to where the mainline European (Vasconic) Neolithic began: Southern Anatolia, and it were these peoples, sepcifically the Southern branch (Cardium Pottery culture) who did all the sailing... and later most of the megalithicking as well. I think there's a crane of some type connecting both activities. Some have even argued that dolmenic megalithism spread around following the cod fisheries... I would think that the Cycladics also knew of sail vessels but that maybe for short distance travel, especially in treacherous waters full of reefs, rowing was a much more controlled form of navigating. Anyhow there may be a "celebratory" thing about rowing. In many cultures, including mine, rowing is a popular sport in coastal areas, in ancient Athens the lower class citizens were very proud of their rowing skills, which often gave their state victory in sea battle, vs much less motivated slave-manned fleets, maybe those rowing boats are like the bullfighting we see in Minoan frescos: not what people do normally but a sport and celebration.
the only common trait in the figurines is an exaggeratedly long neck, from the violin figures early on to the end stage seated figurines. everything else about them morphed with time.
It's got to be a South African accent, or the weirdest speech impediment ever... No other country could have such a silly-sounding accent. (Every single word is warped, and the cadence is very odd and over-enthusiastic.)... The editing is bad too. It's interesting content, but annoying to listen to. Drop the the weird-sounding mush-mouthed narrator and clean up the editing a little bit, and I'll subscribe.
Nice attempt at trolling, but you went a little overboard and lost credibility. Try again on someone else, with about half that amount of baseless nastiness, and you might catch some sparring partners.
@@itzakpoelzig330 not looking to argue with anyone about my own opinion, and not "trolling" (just making a comment about how I found the video to be; no hate... It's not the "positive comments only" section... I said I'd subscribe if they improved. Isn't that what "feedback" is all about?
Such an overlooked region that contributed to Greek civilization. Thank you!
Minor topics like this are so cool
Cycladic sculpture had a lot of influence on modern sculpture.The Cycladic influences are obvious on the works of Brancusi and Modigliani
You're right, and let's not forget Picasso as well.
Efstathios Dimopo..
The cycladic sculpture also inspired the Ligurians of the third millenium AD: they sculpted gigantic steles with very similar morphology as the cycladian statuettes.About 30 exemplars can be stauned at in a new museum in the liguric Appenine. They are much better inspired than the works of Modigliani and the Brancusi.
THE TRUTH IS THAT DOLE GOULANDRE BY THOSE FIGURINES BY Brancusi and they PROPAGADED THAT THERE WERE OTHER CIVILIZATION IN GREECE BEFORE GREEK CIVILIZATION. COLIN RENFREW ARE BUILDING FAKE ZIGGURAT ON KEROS AND HE PROPAGADE THE ANATOLIAN THEORY. Christos Doumas ADMITTED THAT GOULANDRE BROUGHT many many figurines in Greece .
This is awesome the cycladians are rarely covered this well. Ty
Thank you, I'm glad you enjoyed the video!
I am from antiparos. It is so nice
That marble footed bowl is so beautiful, I would love to find a local reproduction of that. Thanks for another terrific video!
Awesome history and video dude.
Thank you very much! :)
Really fascinating. I imagine that time and place to be a rather nice place to live. Perfect climate, still enough forests to keep the islands with enough ground water. Seemingly mostly peaceful too.
I wouldn't say that it was a perfect climate, lol. I love going to the beach in the summer, but I also love my cool temps in spring and fall, and snow in the winter.
2800bc The marble figurines were painted with red cinnabar from southern spain, They didn't use pumice stone to rub down the marble it's to soft , they had green emery sand from Naxos. 8 tonnes a year are still being exported, go look it up.
Thank you, this is excellent!
Excellent work. Congratulations !
Thank you! More videos are coming soon!
Love your videos, they are so enlightening! Keep up the good work!
Thank you! I appreciate it. :)
Those sculptures remind me of chachapoya funerary statues or moais!
good informative program
You mean good PROPAGANDA. with FAKE Brancusi idols and PROPAGANDA BY COLIN RENFREW.
These islands look so dry, at least nowadays, that it’s hard to imagine them supporting more than tiny populations. Perhaps, as on many other dry Greek islands, they collect winter rainwater in cisterns and reservoirs. There is likely also a small freshwater lens of groundwater on each larger island, but over-pumping this resource quickly leads to saltwater intrusion.
Yeah my guess would be that the climate was more wet 2000+ years ago 🤷♂️
Fishing supports large populations. Trade helps.
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Thank you
Thank you for your video. I have many times heard that some of the big cycladic islands like Naxos and Paros had forests on them during the Early Cycladic period. I also heard about the hunting of wild boar and deer on some of these islands. But I have never been able to find sources for this and I was hoping maybe you could tell me if you have any as I would love to see them. Thank you very much!
I'm glad you enjoyed the video! There are many findings that indicate the presence of large forests and the wild animals in the largest of the Cycladic islands, especially Naxos. Many depictions of animal hunting are found in the island, which date from the Early Cycladic period all the way to the Classical period. As for the forests, geoarchaeologists have proven their existence on many regions that are now significantly less forested, like the region of Anatolia, Crete, and the Cycladic islands.
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Very nicely told but I have to strongly disagree re. lack of sails. I see why you claim that based on the drawings but overall Mediterranean peoples (and by extension Atlantic Europeans) had been at the avantguard of sailing since at least the Cardium Pottery Neolithic. You can't explain their specifically coastal, much less the settlement of distant islands like Corsica, Sardinia or the Balearic islands with mere rowing tech. Such sail and related "crane" tech would also be useful later on to build the megaliths. I said "at least" because it's apparent that the older colonization of Cyprus or the crossing of the Aegean by the Cardium precursors arrived from Asia Minor probably also required of sails.
Anyway, you're talking of the Bronze Age, centuries after South Iberian trade with Syria (ivory specifically) is well documented, the time when the Sherden or Nuraghic Sardinians were sailing also all the way from Iberia to Egypt and Palestine, the time when the early (Indoeuropean) Greeks were invading Greece (first) and then other lands with their sailing vessels, attested not just in the epic of Troy or the Egyptian bas-reliefs about the Sea Peoples (incl. those Greeks or Ekwesh/Denesh) but even in the much older legend of Theseus, whose color of sails unfolds the final payback tragedy.
Very interesting information. To be honest I was not well aware about the subject of sails myself and I did make the assumption based on the fact that there weren't any depictions of sails in the Cycladic art. You are indeed right, there is evidence of ships with sails at that time as they are depicted in the art of Predynastic Egypt. Now, regarding the Iliad and the Egyptian reliefs of the Sea Peoples, both of these have to do with the late Bronze Age and the Bronze Age collapse, hundreds of years after the fading of the Cycladic culture, which is the topic of the video. There's no denying that the Mycenaeans had sea vessels with sails. I am curious about what you're saying in regards to the colonization of Cyprus, which I believe happened during the 9th millenium B.C. Do you think that the Mediterranean people were that advanced at sailing back then? If this is true, then it is really fascinating.
@@historicaladventurevideos - We can't be sure about all the details, maybe Cyprus was originally settled by rowed boats... but what about Australia, where a crossing of 80 km was necessary and was settled much much earlier? You can only row so far, not very far typically, in order to actually travel by sea, sails are absolutely needed. No wonder Mediterranean/European sailing has been only second to SE Asian/Oceanian one, we were very delayed by comparison.
Anyway, the settling of Cyprus probably required sails but also Cyprus is close to where the mainline European (Vasconic) Neolithic began: Southern Anatolia, and it were these peoples, sepcifically the Southern branch (Cardium Pottery culture) who did all the sailing... and later most of the megalithicking as well. I think there's a crane of some type connecting both activities. Some have even argued that dolmenic megalithism spread around following the cod fisheries...
I would think that the Cycladics also knew of sail vessels but that maybe for short distance travel, especially in treacherous waters full of reefs, rowing was a much more controlled form of navigating. Anyhow there may be a "celebratory" thing about rowing. In many cultures, including mine, rowing is a popular sport in coastal areas, in ancient Athens the lower class citizens were very proud of their rowing skills, which often gave their state victory in sea battle, vs much less motivated slave-manned fleets, maybe those rowing boats are like the bullfighting we see in Minoan frescos: not what people do normally but a sport and celebration.
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the only common trait in the figurines is an exaggeratedly long neck,
from the violin figures early on to the end stage seated figurines.
everything else about them morphed with time.
Lids.
It is pronounced 'kikladic' not 'sicladic'
Depends on language, accent or even choice of pronunciation.
It's got to be a South African accent, or the weirdest speech impediment ever... No other country could have such a silly-sounding accent. (Every single word is warped, and the cadence is very odd and over-enthusiastic.)...
The editing is bad too.
It's interesting content, but annoying to listen to. Drop the the weird-sounding mush-mouthed narrator and clean up the editing a little bit, and I'll subscribe.
Nobody cares about your critique or opinion on his accent. Enjoy or just shut up
lol
WTF?! 🤣🤣🤣
Nice attempt at trolling, but you went a little overboard and lost credibility. Try again on someone else, with about half that amount of baseless nastiness, and you might catch some sparring partners.
@@itzakpoelzig330 not looking to argue with anyone about my own opinion, and not "trolling" (just making a comment about how I found the video to be; no hate... It's not the "positive comments only" section... I said I'd subscribe if they improved. Isn't that what "feedback" is all about?