In my very first job i was asked not to reply "non productive" email communications.. basically to ghost... And i always felt i should be declining respectfully rather than ghosting.
Wow! . It's insane how professional you look in every venue or video. I mean you do look beautiful in those gorgeous sarees and indian dresses but also the cinematics shots and voice over in videos and the body language and all other minute things while interacting makes you the way you are just perfect . Honestly this video topic was something we unexpectedly expected, I mean its a serious topic to be considered and I loved your views and experiences. Everything has its flaws but it matters how we deal with it . India is still growing and who know in near future we might be the best out there . Not many creators or people in general give such clear and unbiased opinions about the topics like this .
There are two Dutch sociologists who have given culture parameters which are used in Cross Cultural HR called Geert Hofstede and Fons Trompenaar. I will use your video for a session on International HRM.
Great video Ivana🙌 I wanted to move to India a few years ago and set up my nutrition business but the business culture put me off. Today I regret that decision. I should have tried. It would have been great work and life experience. Love watching your videos. Please share more of the business side. 🤗😘
You can always come to Bangalore or Mumbai. That might help you to get work base. India is a huge market growing rapidly everyday. It might be bit difficult but you can always learn a little bit about it n go further. Welcome to India madam 🙏
Actually as a state we're little extra paranoid each and every decision weather it's forign policy or economic policy is calculated many times like Netherlands is a nato country. India maintains strategic independence so Netherlands can afford to be reckless sometimes on other hand we can not here thinking is take time while taking decisions and avoid as many mistakes possible so it also reflects In our bureaucracy regarding business
Excellent observation and comparison. Appreciate your efforts for this work. India definitely needs to be more professional now. We gotta catch up the world trend as we are making more impact on world economy. To make India USD 5 trillion economy, Indians need to adopt Atmnirbhar Bharat idea and start producing own stuff here in India to be slef-reliant. These entrepreneurship videos adds up the value to individuals who look forward to grow and make their business competitive. Bureaucratic hurdles must go away and digitization is helping in this. From 1947 to 2022 India changed greatly and we expect further positive transformation in our work culture, bureaucracy and society over all.
I am an Indian (From West Coast - Maharashtra state. City: Mumbai).. I'm currently in Germany since 2 years. I am such a resource to business stakeholders especially for people looking to bridge over theirs worlds between the two countries. I am saying this because I fell a 100 times flat on my face learning the cultures of both the countries while growing up in India and while navigating my way in Germany.
As always very thoughtful and intelligent analysis...love the way you explain the cultural differences without offending any party...it gives away the clear and honest opinion to those who are looking forward to start new ventures in any country out of both... I am right now in Germany and can relate to all your cultural differences vlogs...thank you because of your previous vlogs I was ready in my mind before coming here.... 🙏
Things I have noticed. In India it makes much more sense to work through agents instead of going direct, as there is an assumption you will support the agents. You really can negotiate the agent fees to almost nothing. The other thing I find is a gross oversimplification of the steps, so invariably things get left out until the last minute and everyone has to scramble. It's part of the way people like to work but can be stressful if not used to it. I think part of the reason is that if stuff is missing at the last moment people will let things slide and the approval is obtained with less steps. I am only familiar with south India and it is likely different elsewhere.
@@_DKE not for finding a job. More for finding work as a freelance worker, trying to get connected with clients. For joba, it's best to use all available avenues, like fairs, friends on line resources and agencies
@@IvanaPerkovicOfficial Right 😅 but this statement has a huge significance because we never know when we would be in need of that person specially in corporate world it's just to avoid ruining of relations
Thanks Ivana. This is what I like about your vlogs you bring different aspects of both countries together and try to summarize it so that we can understand people and enhance relationship.
just love content on ur channel.. smthng not related to this video but wanted to share that recently been able to gift my husband a foodcation at Shangrila booking a premier suite and i was so comfortable doing so because u explained abt it so well in ur video 🥰♥️
Great video ivana, maybe you could have added a point about how indian businesses are open to customise or walk the extra mile... Like kirana store delivering for free or businesses accomodating a last moment change in product specifications...
Very interesting! I think Germans are the most direct people often even to the point of being rude. The Dutch I find are generally business like in their interactions and fluency in English language is a big plus.
@@IvanaPerkovicOfficial i am so glad that you replied ,me back i thought you were be busy or doing work thank you for giving time to comment i love your vlogs but commented first time love from NASHIK
I m a regular viewer of ur vlog and thoroughly enjoy watching it. I find ur vlog full of new ideas, experiences and something to learn. During these years of ur stay in India I saw exponential rise of ur viewership which itself is testimony to ur hard work and uniqueness if ur content. U r truly rose to social influencer in its true senses. Kudos to u and wish for ur further success.
Ghosting is definitely not a great practice. I don't know why people do that (including me in the past 😬). But I think telling the other person/party that priorities are different is better. Also if the work is not as per expectations, an honest feedback will help. I personally tell the other party to come back when they feel more prepared and expect the same from people. Infact, even service providers are so wary of sharing honest feedback to clients (for obvious reasons). I literally tell my service providers that i take criticism well, please feel free to share your opinion, you don't have to agree to everything I say. It's always better to have clarity, although its not a practice i see. But hopefully we will get there someday .
Your observation about negotiation is sooo bang on... I personally hate it so i don't negotiate often I calculate is the product worth my time, if i yes I give it a shot (my husband has a lot of patience though) else i just move on. When it comes to business just say a value that I think is appropriate if the other party agrees we work else again i just move on, minor adjustments can ofcourse always be made but i do not spend too much time. And if it's someone unaffordable I tell them that I don't have the budget hopefully one day I will have and I will get back.
Hey Ivana. Amazing insights. Yes, Indians do ghost more frequently than they should. However, I can't tolerate being ghosted. You're admiringly understanding as a person, but I have sort of become impatient with that attitude of ghosting. I mean, it's disrespectful. I have begun to become non-responsive to people who ghost me and then they get back when they feel like, because it's just unprofessional. Where's the honour in having make someone wait and waste their already time-crunched schedule? Because of your video, I being an Indian got to know about this unspoken rule of ghosting, so thank you so much. I guess I take ghosting personally because when I want to conclude something, I tell it upfront. Love your videos ❤️ 🌸👍🏻
Hey Ivana, it's a great observation on the business culture... I got 'offended' once I met my colleague from Netherlands when I was in Belgium, where he openly on the face told me something which I wouldn't dare to even utter . I thought he's an insane guy with high ego ... I never talked to him again . Indians on the otherhand, wouldn't hurt people and try to convey the message in a more subtle way ... I found this attitude was more 'rude' than 'direct' ...I definitely don't appreciate such people.
Surely we should have a via media between Dutch practices and Indian ones . Both could benefit from borrowing a little from the other. For myself I have always tended to be as straight as possible in getting a job done . You have done so well in adjusting here !
So much knowledgeable and meaningful video you made. I hope that in future you will make more such videos and please ivana I saw your story on Instagram but one more request can you please go to Meghalaya Shillong and Kohima Nagaland will love them in Shillong you will see cherry blossoms and its very beautiful in Kohima Nagaland you can also do cause play and people are so fashionable there. Love from Himachal
The practice of asking second and third set of documents and prolonging decision making is terribly irritating to most modern minded Indians as well. Unfortunately, this has come to us from the days of the British rule and we have not been good about getting rid of inefficient and ineffective practices. So, if these practices irritate and trouble you, we totally understand :)- We Indians agree that bureaucracy in India has some ways to go to become service-oriented, efficient, and effective.
Your opinion will enhance few more points in future and the same opinion will also experience different variants. So relax, some part of India is also like Netherland, which you will experience later, since the business is in the bootstrap level so things may vary. And that person who gave you rude reply is because you were trying to indulge her in lunch or dinner or some kind of meeting like that, to end up in signing a contract, so the client or that person thought that you are taking so much interest than it is required. Because you will also be judged by the self-respect you have for yourself, don't be available always. The way of approaching after first time is just projecting your improvement and showing your presence in market. Or sometimes the low budget clients try to be very clear to avoid repetitive approach by service provider.
Indian business ethics is professional and services prvided takes priority over profits. In the West the only thing that matters is profits. Service is appaling. Negotiation is good that is why all Indians can survive. I dislike the Western way of being Rigid and non negotiable. Hard to survive in the West due to rigidness. Definitely India , Singapore, the M.E has more brownie points as none of these countries take providing a service with a rigid mind set. Hope I am not putting a damper on your vlog and you are open to opinions.
U said it correctly we don't have to read any book we use to go through it every day.goto a govt office all extra documents filing atrocities can be experienced.
Ivana in your younger days ur so pretty 😍... I mean ur still pretty now... But yes I feel sab ladke line marte honge Ivana par ..😉... Love watching you from a long time ... God bless u
I have learned my lesson long time back. Just take all the documents and have multiple photocopies. Just give whatever they ask and don't delay or else it's just gonna delay more and more.
Ivana, you should learn from INDIAN FATHERS on negotiating/bargaining. My father, asks to pay 100 rupees for a 1000 rupees product and ends up buying in 50 rupees!! 😂😂😂😂
A perspective from an outsider definitely gives us insights into how we are. Very nicely articulated.
Happy to hear!
In my very first job i was asked not to reply "non productive" email communications.. basically to ghost... And i always felt i should be declining respectfully rather than ghosting.
Looooooll so it's literally instructions to ghost😅
Wow! . It's insane how professional you look in every venue or video. I mean you do look beautiful in those gorgeous sarees and indian dresses but also the cinematics shots and voice over in videos and the body language and all other minute things while interacting makes you the way you are just perfect . Honestly this video topic was something we unexpectedly expected, I mean its a serious topic to be considered and I loved your views and experiences. Everything has its flaws but it matters how we deal with it . India is still growing and who know in near future we might be the best out there .
Not many creators or people in general give such clear and unbiased opinions about the topics like this .
Whoa next level compliment🤯 Thank you so much!
You miss 'Jugaad' which should be made national Indian skills 🤣🤣
There are two Dutch sociologists who have given culture parameters which are used in Cross Cultural HR called Geert Hofstede and Fons Trompenaar.
I will use your video for a session on International HRM.
Hahaha cool!!!
Great video Ivana🙌 I wanted to move to India a few years ago and set up my nutrition business but the business culture put me off. Today I regret that decision. I should have tried. It would have been great work and life experience. Love watching your videos. Please share more of the business side. 🤗😘
You can always come to Bangalore or Mumbai. That might help you to get work base. India is a huge market growing rapidly everyday. It might be bit difficult but you can always learn a little bit about it n go further. Welcome to India madam 🙏
You can always try again! Nothing is set in stone
@@success163 thanks but I have a baby now so not good timing. Perhaps in a few years when my child is older 😊
Actually as a state we're little extra paranoid each and every decision weather it's forign policy or economic policy is calculated many times like Netherlands is a nato country. India maintains strategic independence so Netherlands can afford to be reckless sometimes on other hand we can not here thinking is take time while taking decisions and avoid as many mistakes possible so it also reflects In our bureaucracy regarding business
all the points covered very nicely, well said👍
Thanks!
Excellent observation and comparison. Appreciate your efforts for this work. India definitely needs to be more professional now. We gotta catch up the world trend as we are making more impact on world economy. To make India USD 5 trillion economy, Indians need to adopt Atmnirbhar Bharat idea and start producing own stuff here in India to be slef-reliant. These entrepreneurship videos adds up the value to individuals who look forward to grow and make their business competitive.
Bureaucratic hurdles must go away and digitization is helping in this. From 1947 to 2022 India changed greatly and we expect further positive transformation in our work culture, bureaucracy and society over all.
This was a great insight, never seen any vlogger discussing this.
Happy to hear!
I am an Indian (From West Coast - Maharashtra state. City: Mumbai).. I'm currently in Germany since 2 years. I am such a resource to business stakeholders especially for people looking to bridge over theirs worlds between the two countries. I am saying this because I fell a 100 times flat on my face learning the cultures of both the countries while growing up in India and while navigating my way in Germany.
Awesome👍👍
Happy Ganesh Chaturthi! 🎉🎉🎉
Happy Ganesh Chaturthi!
Very good informative comparative work culture video
NAMSTE 🙏
I am from India🇮🇳 and love watching your videos. I am proud to speak Hindi and be Hindu and Hindustani(Indian)🇮🇳
I LOVE MY INDIA 🇮🇳
Good to see you your videos are really amazing lots of love from all indians to a beautiful country Netherlands and to you as well keep smiling
I just love how well dressed you are in every video
Well thank you!!!
I mean the clips in the video
As always very thoughtful and intelligent analysis...love the way you explain the cultural differences without offending any party...it gives away the clear and honest opinion to those who are looking forward to start new ventures in any country out of both... I am right now in Germany and can relate to all your cultural differences vlogs...thank you because of your previous vlogs I was ready in my mind before coming here.... 🙏
So happy to hear this! Thank you!
Looking lovely as always 😘 😍 ❤️
Interesting! Nice video! Thank you for sharing it. ✌️
Thank you!!!
Things I have noticed. In India it makes much more sense to work through agents instead of going direct, as there is an assumption you will support the agents. You really can negotiate the agent fees to almost nothing. The other thing I find is a gross oversimplification of the steps, so invariably things get left out until the last minute and everyone has to scramble. It's part of the way people like to work but can be stressful if not used to it. I think part of the reason is that if stuff is missing at the last moment people will let things slide and the approval is obtained with less steps.
I am only familiar with south India and it is likely different elsewhere.
do you mean by working through an agent, that you go to a recruitment agent to find a job instead of approaching companies directly?
@@_DKE not for finding a job. More for finding work as a freelance worker, trying to get connected with clients. For joba, it's best to use all available avenues, like fairs, friends on line resources and agencies
5:53 and also "soch ke batata/batati hu" which means I will tell you later which indirectly means "NO" !!
Hhahah SO TRUE!!! The answer never comes, only crickets lol😂😂😂
@@IvanaPerkovicOfficial Right 😅 but this statement has a huge significance because we never know when we would be in need of that person specially in corporate world it's just to avoid ruining of relations
Indian Business Relations is more of Emotional Rather Materialistic ,if you observed but no sacrifise
Very interesting - thanks for sharing.
Thanks Ivana. This is what I like about your vlogs you bring different aspects of both countries together and try to summarize it so that we can understand people and enhance relationship.
Sister you are great 👍👍
Thanks bhai!
Nam to sundor he😊🙏🙏🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳
Beautifully explained ❣️
Very nice...
Thanks!
this video is ....on point
just love content on ur channel..
smthng not related to this video but wanted to share that recently been able to gift my husband a foodcation at Shangrila booking a premier suite and i was so comfortable doing so because u explained abt it so well in ur video 🥰♥️
Awww so happy to hear this!!!
♥️♥️
Wow wonderful and unique video its full of information btw I really like your accents so cute. Take care and much love mera sundhar didi ❤️
Thanks bhai!
May success, happiness, and prosperity follow you wherever you go and whatever you do. My prayers are always with you. Good luck!
Thank you so much!
Great video ivana, maybe you could have added a point about how indian businesses are open to customise or walk the extra mile... Like kirana store delivering for free or businesses accomodating a last moment change in product specifications...
You are very kind and beautiful❤
Very interesting! I think Germans are the most direct people often even to the point of being rude. The Dutch I find are generally business like in their interactions and fluency in English language is a big plus.
Love you travel vi
I love your content
I love your videos
Thank you for everything
Thank you so much!
@@IvanaPerkovicOfficial i am so glad that you replied ,me back i thought you were be busy or doing work
thank you for giving time to comment
i love your vlogs
but commented first time
love from NASHIK
I m a regular viewer of ur vlog and thoroughly enjoy watching it. I find ur vlog full of new ideas, experiences and something to learn. During these years of ur stay in India I saw exponential rise of ur viewership which itself is testimony to ur hard work and uniqueness if ur content. U r truly rose to social influencer in its true senses. Kudos to u and wish for ur further success.
This is incredible! Thank you so much for your kind words
Nice 👍👍👍
Nice❤
ماشاءاللّٰه 🌴
👌👍💐 great
Wow. Kannada 🤟🤟
For any business to grow and nurture, 'skills and expertise' are quintessentials.
Ghosting is definitely not a great practice. I don't know why people do that (including me in the past 😬). But I think telling the other person/party that priorities are different is better. Also if the work is not as per expectations, an honest feedback will help. I personally tell the other party to come back when they feel more prepared and expect the same from people. Infact, even service providers are so wary of sharing honest feedback to clients (for obvious reasons). I literally tell my service providers that i take criticism well, please feel free to share your opinion, you don't have to agree to everything I say.
It's always better to have clarity, although its not a practice i see. But hopefully we will get there someday .
Your observation about negotiation is sooo bang on... I personally hate it so i don't negotiate often I calculate is the product worth my time, if i yes I give it a shot (my husband has a lot of patience though) else i just move on. When it comes to business just say a value that I think is appropriate if the other party agrees we work else again i just move on, minor adjustments can ofcourse always be made but i do not spend too much time. And if it's someone unaffordable I tell them that I don't have the budget hopefully one day I will have and I will get back.
Soooo true!!!!
Pls talk more about ur business 🙏🏻🙏🏻
Hey Ivana. Amazing insights. Yes, Indians do ghost more frequently than they should. However, I can't tolerate being ghosted. You're admiringly understanding as a person, but I have sort of become impatient with that attitude of ghosting. I mean, it's disrespectful. I have begun to become non-responsive to people who ghost me and then they get back when they feel like, because it's just unprofessional. Where's the honour in having make someone wait and waste their already time-crunched schedule? Because of your video, I being an Indian got to know about this unspoken rule of ghosting, so thank you so much. I guess I take ghosting personally because when I want to conclude something, I tell it upfront. Love your videos ❤️ 🌸👍🏻
Hahah I totally understand what you mean and even I have my limits with this. Happy the video helped with some new perspectives
Dear please come to Kodaikanal I am sure you will enjoy Kodaikanal
I'm sure too as the cheese is supreme!!!
You need to explore West Bengal and North East thereform ASAP, you need newer perspectives too about the rest of the country!
You are very preety especially in green sari.
Thanks!
Hey Ivana, it's a great observation on the business culture... I got 'offended' once I met my colleague from Netherlands when I was in Belgium, where he openly on the face told me something which I wouldn't dare to even utter . I thought he's an insane guy with high ego ... I never talked to him again .
Indians on the otherhand, wouldn't hurt people and try to convey the message in a more subtle way ... I found this attitude was more 'rude' than 'direct' ...I definitely don't appreciate such people.
Five years already huh? Been that long, wow!
Surely we should have a via media between Dutch practices and Indian ones . Both could benefit from borrowing a little from the other. For myself I have always tended to be
as straight as possible in getting a job done .
You have done so well in adjusting here !
Nice
❤️❤️❤️❤️
Namaste Ivana love from gr nature 💜
Well always remember that the comparision is between a developed and developing country and ratio between rich to poor is big.
So much knowledgeable and meaningful video you made. I hope that in future you will make more such videos and please ivana I saw your story on Instagram but one more request can you please go to Meghalaya Shillong and Kohima Nagaland will love them in Shillong you will see cherry blossoms and its very beautiful in Kohima Nagaland you can also do cause play and people are so fashionable there.
Love from Himachal
So happy to hear you enjoyed!
Nice...
Here in india businesses works differently i will tell you a thing which is key in indian business is trust it takes a bit long time
So true!
The practice of asking second and third set of documents and prolonging decision making is terribly irritating to most modern minded Indians as well. Unfortunately, this has come to us from the days of the British rule and we have not been good about getting rid of inefficient and ineffective practices. So, if these practices irritate and trouble you, we totally understand :)- We Indians agree that bureaucracy in India has some ways to go to become service-oriented, efficient, and effective.
Agreed, the world needs more and more entrepreneurs and sense of independent and job creators
Looking so preeti
Aw thanks haha
Your opinion will enhance few more points in future and the same opinion will also experience different variants. So relax, some part of India is also like Netherland, which you will experience later, since the business is in the bootstrap level so things may vary.
And that person who gave you rude reply is because you were trying to indulge her in lunch or dinner or some kind of meeting like that, to end up in signing a contract, so the client or that person thought that you are taking so much interest than it is required.
Because you will also be judged by the self-respect you have for yourself, don't be available always. The way of approaching after first time is just projecting your improvement and showing your presence in market. Or sometimes the low budget clients try to be very clear to avoid repetitive approach by service provider.
Indian business ethics is professional and services prvided takes priority over profits. In the West the only thing that matters is profits. Service is appaling. Negotiation is good that is why all Indians can survive. I dislike the Western way of being Rigid and non negotiable. Hard to survive in the West due to rigidness. Definitely India , Singapore, the M.E has more brownie points as none of these countries take providing a service with a rigid mind set. Hope I am not putting a damper on your vlog and you are open to opinions.
From what you have said, I think Dutch is far better.
Very little hassle.
It would be awesome if you start doing movie reactions again.
👍👍👍
👍👍👏👏
1:04 is that Noraly from Itchy boots?
U said it correctly we don't have to read any book we use to go through it every day.goto a govt office all extra documents filing atrocities can be experienced.
Entrepreneur point shi hai
I predict this is going to be your viral hit video that will take you to the million sub mark.
🥰🤗🤩
Hallo Ivana, In India is het belangrijkste verschil met elk ander land spiritualiteit. Heb je de kans gekregen om het te ervaren?
Can I join ur company as an intern .... I am in 3rd year of my cllg ... I am in blr south . Doing CS in BE
Maharashtra 💕🥰 i
the last one is Cultural shock for us😂.The people who understand please leave a like😅
Very good content! Please do more of these videos.
PS: You paid a lot against the offer he made. You could have settled at a maximum of 100. 🤭
In which in hindi👍
Ivana in your younger days ur so pretty 😍... I mean ur still pretty now... But yes I feel sab ladke line marte honge Ivana par ..😉... Love watching you from a long time ... God bless u
Please do one comparison between your real Yugoslavian/Serbian perspective and India..
Thanks ivana
🙋🏼♂️
🤩
Love You Ivana ♥❤❤
😍😍😍
Ivana 💓💓💓💓
✨🙏👌
I have learned my lesson long time back. Just take all the documents and have multiple photocopies. Just give whatever they ask and don't delay or else it's just gonna delay more and more.
Sooo true!!!
You need not take negotiation classes. Just go out on shopping with Indian moms! 😜 you will master it!
Eh I can do it, I just don't enjoy it. I need to hire Indian moms to negotiate for me😂😂😂
I love Dutch people
You are Veri nice in green saree
Hi Karen 😂😂😂
Hehhehe very sharp!!!!
🙂👌
Ivana, you should learn from INDIAN FATHERS on negotiating/bargaining. My father, asks to pay 100 rupees for a 1000 rupees product and ends up buying in 50 rupees!! 😂😂😂😂
My dad does the same but I'm just too lazy and have no patience😂
Just go to Gujarat to learn negotiations and business rules
I don't have the patience haha
That email is so mean
You should try negotiating with Sindhis!
Why your western media always try to show bad images of india and always so racial. Can you make video on this topic
That's the rudest mail I have ever come across too. Pretty unprofessional.